WEBVTT - Microsoft's UK Talks and Hollywood's Actors on Strike

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<v Speaker 1>From Mahard where Innovation, Money and power Collie in Silicon Valley, NBR.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Bloomberg Technology with Caroline Hyde and Ed Ludlow.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Caroline Had of Lumberg's weldad quarters in New.

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<v Speaker 3>York, and I'med Ludlow here in San Francisco. This is

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<v Speaker 3>Bloomberg Technology coming up.

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<v Speaker 4>Microsoft meets with UK regulators to try clear the final

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<v Speaker 4>hurdle in its sixty nine billion dollar takeover of Activision.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll read the latest from the productive talks.

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<v Speaker 3>Plus we'll look at the sticking points in the strikes

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<v Speaker 3>to the shut down Hollywood and how AI could transform

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<v Speaker 3>Tenttaltown as we know it.

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<v Speaker 4>And from AI to vr US aviation regulators and turning

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<v Speaker 4>to a small Swiss tech startup to rethink how helicopter

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<v Speaker 4>pilots and others are trained using virtual.

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<v Speaker 3>Reality Microsoft Activision. The situation is this Right now as

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<v Speaker 3>we speak, there is a hearing at the Competition Anti Trust.

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<v Speaker 5>Tribunal in the UK.

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<v Speaker 3>All they are deciding is an ask from all the parties,

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<v Speaker 3>the UKCMA, Microsoft and Activision to stay legal proceedings so

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<v Speaker 3>that they can find a solution. They can find a

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<v Speaker 3>way of moving forward. The deal deadlines July eighteenth, as

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<v Speaker 3>per the original merger agreement. It's now crunch time. Does

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<v Speaker 3>this happen? Activision up three percent the market soft proxy,

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<v Speaker 3>but the stock seems to suggest there's confidence that we're

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<v Speaker 3>moving forward towards a solution.

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<v Speaker 4>All about that competition and pel tribunal and all about well,

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<v Speaker 4>those productive talks we understand thus far, Microsoft kicking off

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<v Speaker 4>that hotly anticipated court hearing, with the discussions with the

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<v Speaker 4>agency today. It's desperately trying, as you say, just to

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<v Speaker 4>get this deal done sixty nine billion, and we know

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<v Speaker 4>the clock is sticking on July the eighteenth for Activision Blizzard.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's get to Brodie Ford, who's been across this, And

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, UK is the hurdle, it really is.

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<v Speaker 6>Yep, yeah, that's right. I mean, as you said, it's

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<v Speaker 6>down to the wire tomorrow. If Microsoft doesn't close it,

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<v Speaker 6>they'd pay three billion dollars. I'm sure they don't want

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<v Speaker 6>to do it, or they could go ahead and close

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<v Speaker 6>it and risk further out from UK regulators.

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<v Speaker 5>So I mean, the market seems to think this is closing.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I saw a note coming in here that

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<v Speaker 6>the word imminently is being thrown around a lot, right,

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<v Speaker 6>So could we see a decision from the UK today

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<v Speaker 6>and see it all close wrapped up?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 6>But you see that you know there's still that what

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<v Speaker 6>three four percent deal spread? Some people think there's still

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<v Speaker 6>a risk, so down to the wire.

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<v Speaker 3>When I spoke to sources at both companies Friday, there

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<v Speaker 3>was a lot of confidence that this deal would close

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<v Speaker 3>before or on July eighteenth, tomorrow, the deadline as per

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<v Speaker 3>the merger agreement. But what you have is so many

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<v Speaker 3>things in parallel. All the Appeals Tribuno is looking at

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<v Speaker 3>is whether to allow the parties to go away and

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<v Speaker 3>find some compromise between the two of them. The UKCMA

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<v Speaker 3>stay and did its regulatory process till August twenty ninth.

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<v Speaker 3>There is still an Appeals Tribunal trial scheduled for July

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<v Speaker 3>twenty eighth, So so many moving pieces. Brody, What is

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<v Speaker 3>the request here? What is it that Microsoft and Activision

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<v Speaker 3>want to happen in between all of these dates?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well they wanted to close, and I think maybe

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<v Speaker 6>what we should asking is what does the UK want

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<v Speaker 6>to see. We saw Microsoft over the weekend make some

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<v Speaker 6>concessions with Sony and say that look, we will agree

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<v Speaker 6>that Call of Duty will remain on your platform for

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<v Speaker 6>at least the next ten years. This is an agreement

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<v Speaker 6>they tried to make previously, and Sony was actually the

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<v Speaker 6>one that rejected it. So I think Sony coming to

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<v Speaker 6>the table as an indicator that you know, they see

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<v Speaker 6>the writing on the wall. Some of my colleagues have reported,

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<v Speaker 6>including you, that you know, Microsoft has considered selling off

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<v Speaker 6>some of its rights to cloud gaming in the UK,

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<v Speaker 6>which was a point of concern for regulators. So I

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<v Speaker 6>think we could see some concessions like this and just

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<v Speaker 6>you know whatever that as little closing deal is needed

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<v Speaker 6>to get it through the edge.

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<v Speaker 2>Have we seen much like this before?

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<v Speaker 4>Do we ultimately always get down to the wire when

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<v Speaker 4>it comes to these sort of regulatory headaches and when

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<v Speaker 4>we have such clear cut dates that yeah to be

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<v Speaker 4>done by it?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I don't think so, because I think what's different

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<v Speaker 6>here is the regulators are newly empowered to try to

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<v Speaker 6>challenge these mergers, right. I mean, we had a regulatory

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<v Speaker 6>regime in the US for many decades that allowed most

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<v Speaker 6>mergers to go through, maybe with some concessions, but these

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<v Speaker 6>things happened in a pretty more predictable way. I would say,

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<v Speaker 6>I think this has been uncharted territory for the acquirer,

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<v Speaker 6>the acquiree.

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<v Speaker 2>The regulators.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I think it's been an uncharacteristically wild ride

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<v Speaker 6>as it relates to large mergers.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that uncharacteristically wild rided.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, we're all assuming that this does go smoothie,

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<v Speaker 3>and my question is what happens if it doesn't. We'll

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<v Speaker 3>save that for tomorrow. Blim bugs, Brady Ford, thank you

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<v Speaker 3>very much. Just stick in the world of tech media

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<v Speaker 3>and telecoms. We're talking about AI swiftly changing the way

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<v Speaker 3>Hollywood operates and why it's holding up talks in the

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<v Speaker 3>actor and writers' strikes really quickly. Also watching shares of Paramount,

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<v Speaker 3>this is where Mission Impossible dead Reckoning Part one has

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<v Speaker 3>missed the mark against estimates over the weekend down four percent.

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<v Speaker 3>Really interesting. So when I spoke to Paramount CEO got

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<v Speaker 3>backish last week. He was very confident that opening weekend

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<v Speaker 3>would be a success for the new Mission Impossible. But

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<v Speaker 3>the data fifty six point two million dollars across theaters

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<v Speaker 3>this weekend, it's not what we wanted to see.

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<v Speaker 5>Shares down four percent. This is Bloomberg Technology.

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<v Speaker 3>Hollywood actors and writers continue their strike, demanding pay increases

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<v Speaker 3>and residuals in streaming, plus assurances their work will not

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<v Speaker 3>be replaced by artificial intelligence. More as bringing in Bloombergs

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<v Speaker 3>Lucas Shaw, who leads our coverage of all things entertained,

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<v Speaker 3>and Lucas, you've been out on the street, You've been

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<v Speaker 3>tracking on the ground these strikes.

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<v Speaker 5>Are they close to getting what they want?

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<v Speaker 7>It doesn't seem that way. I mean, look, the actors

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<v Speaker 7>just went on strike mid to late last week. I

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<v Speaker 7>don't expect intense negotiations this week. You know they're going

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<v Speaker 7>to want to be on the picket line trying to

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<v Speaker 7>make their point. Have a couple of weeks at least

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<v Speaker 7>where they make the studios sweat.

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<v Speaker 8>You know.

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<v Speaker 7>I may hear different, as I talked two more sources

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<v Speaker 7>in the week pick up, but at this point I

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<v Speaker 7>think most folks are expecting this will drag into the

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<v Speaker 7>ball at the absolute earliest.

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<v Speaker 4>How much can they make the studios sweat? Here, Lucas,

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<v Speaker 4>how important is it and they get them back to

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<v Speaker 4>work in some sort of time frame post labor Day In.

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<v Speaker 5>The short term, not a ton.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, it'll impact the release of some movies because

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<v Speaker 7>now talent can't do can't do promo. You know, you

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<v Speaker 7>have any titles coming out in July, August, early September,

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<v Speaker 7>they're not going to be on the talk shows, They're

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<v Speaker 7>not going to be doing podcasts, all those things. You know,

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<v Speaker 7>most TV networks will be fine. You know, August and

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<v Speaker 7>summer is kind of slow. Streaming services have banked a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of programming for the next several months, So I

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<v Speaker 7>don't think you're going to see dramatic impact right away.

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<v Speaker 7>But where it does start to hurt them is I

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<v Speaker 7>think if this drags on certainly into September, you're going

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<v Speaker 7>to have a lot of companies that you are looking

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<v Speaker 7>at a pretty bare slate next year because they can't

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<v Speaker 7>finish work on projects, they can't start work on projects,

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<v Speaker 7>and you'll have some people maybe move movies because they

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<v Speaker 7>don't want to release a big tenth pole that they

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<v Speaker 7>can't use the starts to promote it all.

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<v Speaker 3>Lucas, Hollywood has found the perfect villain in artificial intelligence.

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<v Speaker 3>Our boss Bradstone rights in a newsletter, just explain the

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<v Speaker 3>AI villainy at the heart of this actors strike, because

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<v Speaker 3>it's already come up in the right to strike.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean it's important to note that things like

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<v Speaker 7>you know, residuals, which is being paid for reruns and

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<v Speaker 7>minimum salaries and being rewarded in success. All of those,

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<v Speaker 7>I'd say, are the sort of the meat and potato issues,

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<v Speaker 7>the ones that are most important to resolve. But AI

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<v Speaker 7>has become something, whether it's writers or actors, that everyone

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<v Speaker 7>is a little scared about because they already feel as

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<v Speaker 7>if streaming and sort of the onset of the internet

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<v Speaker 7>has hurt their pay and given corporations too much power,

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<v Speaker 7>and they see an AI a real existential threat that

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<v Speaker 7>could hollow out sort of.

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<v Speaker 5>The middle and lower class.

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<v Speaker 7>Because it's not like you know, you're going to use

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<v Speaker 7>artificial intelligence likely to a place a Margo Robbie or

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<v Speaker 7>a Brad Pitt or the single greatest screenwriter in the world.

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<v Speaker 7>But you could see artificial intelligence reduce the amount of

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<v Speaker 7>work that people have or eliminate much smaller roles that

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<v Speaker 7>could be replicated with a computer.

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<v Speaker 5>And or for a writer.

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<v Speaker 7>You could see AI come up with an idea, and

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<v Speaker 7>a writer who writes an adapted screenplay gets paid less

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<v Speaker 7>often than someone with a wholy original idea. So there's

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<v Speaker 7>just a lot of anxiety and uncertainty because nobody really

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<v Speaker 7>knows where this is going, and they feel like the

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<v Speaker 7>studios have not really met them halfway.

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<v Speaker 4>Luca schul, we thank you. It's been brilliant coverage throughout.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's just think about how we could see some sort

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<v Speaker 4>of equitable or in equitable future of how Ai and

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<v Speaker 4>the workers team together.

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<v Speaker 2>We're delighted to welcome Sunny Dill and he's a partner

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<v Speaker 2>at Kaiba Night Capital.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, and Sonny, you're steeped in the world of

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<v Speaker 4>how Ai and movie making and creation really come together.

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<v Speaker 4>Capital course backed by some previous CEOs of some of

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<v Speaker 4>the studios out there. I know that you've worked before

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<v Speaker 4>with Warner Brothers and Strategy, been thinking about spinoffs and

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<v Speaker 4>venture and cinema. What do you think artificial intelligence is

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<v Speaker 4>going to do to content creation?

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<v Speaker 9>I think artificial intelligence is better referred to as augmented intelligence.

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<v Speaker 9>It's actually a democratizing force to allow creators of all

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<v Speaker 9>kinds to be able to produce work at a larger

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<v Speaker 9>quantity and a quicker pace than they ever were before.

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<v Speaker 9>I think it's really exciting to bring character to light

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<v Speaker 9>using technologies such as deep fakes for one's voice or

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<v Speaker 9>one's base and likeness, bringing characters to like that otherwise

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<v Speaker 9>would have have been retired. For example, one of my

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<v Speaker 9>favorites is the new Obi Wan Kenobi series on Disney Plus.

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<v Speaker 9>It's a great example of using James Earl Jones's voice.

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<v Speaker 9>He's a ninety two year old actor, but there was

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<v Speaker 9>a licensed use, a deep fake use of his voice

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<v Speaker 9>to be recast as Dark Vader in that program, which

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<v Speaker 9>I thought was truly a magical experience to re immerse

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<v Speaker 9>in some of the great work that Star Wars.

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<v Speaker 5>Was known for us.

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<v Speaker 4>Sunny that that magic must come at a cost and

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<v Speaker 4>a price ultimately, And do you think movie studios are

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<v Speaker 4>ultimately going to be able to get their head around

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<v Speaker 4>where that cost eventually goes.

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<v Speaker 2>Can they see round corners to be able to ensure

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<v Speaker 2>that well.

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<v Speaker 4>The fears of the actors the writers is that they're

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<v Speaker 4>recompensed in the right way.

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<v Speaker 9>I think that's really a separate conversation from the core

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<v Speaker 9>technology being an enabling one and creating content that's really

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<v Speaker 9>truly magical. As I said, compensation and revenue splits are

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<v Speaker 9>absolutely something that needs to accompany this, But I don't

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<v Speaker 9>think that the technology itself ought to be demonized because

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<v Speaker 9>I do think it's going to be a rallying cry

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<v Speaker 9>for many would be creators out there. I do think

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<v Speaker 9>backhand splits, usage of one's likeness, being able to leverage

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<v Speaker 9>that likeness, and exciting ways in collaboration with the IP owner,

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<v Speaker 9>these are things that absolutely need to be handled.

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<v Speaker 6>I think the.

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<v Speaker 9>Same way that MP three's changed the music business in

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<v Speaker 9>many ways and created new revenue opportunities, there was a

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<v Speaker 9>lot of fear that kind of accompanied the onset of

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<v Speaker 9>that new technology at the beginning. I think augmented reality

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<v Speaker 9>in the future will usher in another wave of a

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<v Speaker 9>new business model that needs to emerge to barely compensate

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<v Speaker 9>creators whose artwork or IP is being leveraged on this

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<v Speaker 9>new technology medium. So yes, it's a conversation that needs

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<v Speaker 9>to be had. And I do want to say though

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<v Speaker 9>that I think the technology itself is a very positive thing.

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<v Speaker 5>That's really where we stand.

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<v Speaker 3>Sonny your fund kiber Knight Capital. It's backed by CEOs

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<v Speaker 3>executives who have spent a lot of time at studios.

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<v Speaker 5>Whose side are you on, I'm on the side of

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<v Speaker 5>the technology.

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<v Speaker 9>I think that the technology is a very exciting thing.

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<v Speaker 9>It's going to change lives in a very positive way.

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<v Speaker 9>The business and monetization around it is absolutely something that

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<v Speaker 9>I think the studio executives absolutely must figure out because

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<v Speaker 9>fairness and equal compensation here is a very important aspect

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<v Speaker 9>of the conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, one of the companies we track is Runway

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<v Speaker 3>right text to video on this program, and if their

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<v Speaker 3>concept and technology proves to be a value add to

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<v Speaker 3>making films, then the actors who are striking will be concerned.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you see a situation where we find a resolution

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<v Speaker 3>where the actors are happy and we keep investing in

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<v Speaker 3>technology that can potentially displace jobs.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I think that Runway mL gent to text video

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<v Speaker 9>that you're describing is probably one of the most exciting

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<v Speaker 9>things to happen in this whole category. Since we've been

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<v Speaker 9>following generals of artificial intelligence over the last few years,

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<v Speaker 9>and it's truly amazing what you've been able to see

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<v Speaker 9>out there with some of the you know, Pizza Hut

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<v Speaker 9>and Pepsi and Budweiser commercials that have been generated entirely

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<v Speaker 9>by text fonts, and you'd think it was just any

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<v Speaker 9>standard nineteen eighties American TV commercial. I think that when

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<v Speaker 9>you see it with people with seven fingers and you

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<v Speaker 9>know them gulping down, you know, uh thout something that

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<v Speaker 9>looks far like anything besides a beer, can you get

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<v Speaker 9>to a point of seeing just how rudimentary and early

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<v Speaker 9>we are with this technology. I don't think it's right

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<v Speaker 9>to think that it will be replacing people, because you

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<v Speaker 9>could argue that epics unreal engine being used to shoot

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<v Speaker 9>the Mandalorian could have displaced you know, certain crew members

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<v Speaker 9>who were working in visual effects before. It's simply putting

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<v Speaker 9>out better content that audiences want. When it comes down

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<v Speaker 9>to Runway mL in particular, I think of it more

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<v Speaker 9>as an editing and storyboarding kind of component of the

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<v Speaker 9>green lighting process. I don't think it's in a place

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<v Speaker 9>to be able to fully generate a film anytime soon

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<v Speaker 9>that would replace even the most basic, you know, kind

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<v Speaker 9>of roles in the entertainment industry. It's just a storyboarding

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<v Speaker 9>component to getting to the final product. It's a stepping

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<v Speaker 9>stone the kind of way that you would be using

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<v Speaker 9>a variety of Adobe after effects kind of tools or

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<v Speaker 9>storyboarding tools to kind of put before a producer for

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<v Speaker 9>green lighting in the first place.

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<v Speaker 4>Sonny another way you say you, Well, if you're on

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<v Speaker 4>the side of technology, you don't want to be seeing demonized.

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<v Speaker 2>Where are you seeing the excitement?

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<v Speaker 4>Then let's go in on the silver lining to some

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<v Speaker 4>of the clouds and the fears. You're looking at writing checks,

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<v Speaker 4>you're looking at backing some of the most revolutionary types

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<v Speaker 4>of technology in this space.

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<v Speaker 2>Where is it being built? Who by? What sort of

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<v Speaker 2>companies are interesting you?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, So I think that using deep fake technology is

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<v Speaker 9>incredibly exciting for a multitude of applications, entertainment being one

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<v Speaker 9>of them. Bringing voices, cloning voices and bringing characters to

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<v Speaker 9>life is something I described with the Obi wan kenob

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<v Speaker 9>deep fake for voice kind of applications. There's a great

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<v Speaker 9>company called Resemble AI that's doing things like that. There's

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<v Speaker 9>another company that's out there doing it for dubbing when

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<v Speaker 9>it comes to international language localization called Synesthesia, based out

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<v Speaker 9>of London. It allowed David Beckham to film one commercial

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<v Speaker 9>one time in English and his face and voice with

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<v Speaker 9>his authorization, of course, you will be dubbed into local

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<v Speaker 9>local languages completely seamlessly, and I think that's a very

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<v Speaker 9>interesting application for advertising. I think another really interesting applic

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<v Speaker 9>that speaks to me is in the gaming industry where

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<v Speaker 9>you can have generative AI and chat. GBT actually be

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<v Speaker 9>used to generate decision trees and dialogue with NPC's non

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<v Speaker 9>playable characters. Yea on the as you're navigating quests. I

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<v Speaker 9>think that's another really interesting space we're looking at right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Sunny Dylan Kyba nightcaps are also dropped a few knowledge bombs.

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<v Speaker 3>There a lot of streaming. You've got a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>streaming on your mind. I like that Star War as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Time for talking tech. First up, China's top chip maker

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<v Speaker 3>has resigned about a year after formally assuming his role,

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<v Speaker 3>so the latest high profile departure from a company there's

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<v Speaker 3>been rocked by US chip sanctions, and two major Chinese

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<v Speaker 3>chip equipment makers are predicting a doubling in profits after

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<v Speaker 3>the US clamped on exports of American technology. Homegrown gear

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<v Speaker 3>suppliers are benefiting from this self sufficiency push, with Beijing

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<v Speaker 3>vowing to replace foreign tech with local options. Plus, America's

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<v Speaker 3>largest semi conductor companies are launching an effort to head

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<v Speaker 3>off new curbs on their sales to China. Senior executives

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<v Speaker 3>are traveling to Washington next week to lobby against restricting

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<v Speaker 3>sales of semiconductors and certain chips Caroline.

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<v Speaker 4>And just speaking of chips, let's turn to their application

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<v Speaker 4>in evs for example. More so specifically, let's talk about Tesla,

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<v Speaker 4>because can it protect us lead in that market or

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<v Speaker 4>easier law Musk losing his head start, We're all looking towards.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, Tesla's numbers coming out Wednesday, and Lumberg went

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<v Speaker 4>to its professional retail investors with a question from our

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<v Speaker 4>latest they're called an end Live Pulse survey mos esher

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<v Speaker 4>days here with the highlights and basically we're asking our

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<v Speaker 4>audience on the terminal, do you have faith that al

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<v Speaker 4>Musk and Tesla can keep winning against the competition? You

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<v Speaker 4>worried about distractions? What really is the is the investor

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<v Speaker 4>telling us right now about that war?

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<v Speaker 2>Is the Tesla?

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<v Speaker 10>Hi, and thanks for having me. Yeah, So that was

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<v Speaker 10>essentially the biggest question that we asked in the survey.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, what you think are the biggest risks for

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<v Speaker 10>Tesla in the next two years. And the and the

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<v Speaker 10>resounding answer, I would say was rivals. You know, the

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<v Speaker 10>competition that's coming in from rival automakers, we startups be it,

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<v Speaker 10>you know, the gms and folds of the world. That's

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<v Speaker 10>what investors are watching out for. They think that is

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<v Speaker 10>like the biggest risk facing the company. About fifty percent

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<v Speaker 10>of the six hundred and thirty responders, which is sort

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<v Speaker 10>of a mix of both professional and retailed investors, said

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<v Speaker 10>that rivals are the biggest risk for this company. And

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<v Speaker 10>the second one that I definitely want to talk about

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<v Speaker 10>here is Eon Musk himself. The behaviors and some of

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<v Speaker 10>the un predictability that Elon Musk brings with his leadership,

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<v Speaker 10>which is also something that Tesla cannot be successful without,

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<v Speaker 10>is something that investors flagged as one of the big

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<v Speaker 10>risks for the company.

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<v Speaker 5>So a lot of complaints.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, the stock's up one hundred and thirty three

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<v Speaker 3>percent so far this year. Two thirds of respondents want

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<v Speaker 3>Musks to do what esher spend more time just on

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<v Speaker 3>that that stock that's had a good run.

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<v Speaker 10>That's correct, Yes, it's had a really great run, but

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<v Speaker 10>it's still far it's quite far away from you know,

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<v Speaker 10>that one point two one point three trillion mark that

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<v Speaker 10>it touched last year. It's I think Tesla's market cap

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<v Speaker 10>is houring around eight hundred and nineteen nine hundred billion

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<v Speaker 10>right now. So you know, people who who are believers

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<v Speaker 10>in Tesla, they think, you know, this is a stock

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<v Speaker 10>that can run much further and it's not just an

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<v Speaker 10>EV play anymore. It's now an AI place. So you know,

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<v Speaker 10>as we know with Tesla investors, the sky is the limit.

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<v Speaker 10>And we saw like a sixty seven percent of the

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<v Speaker 10>Servie responders said that Mosk needs to focus more on Justina. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 10>so there we have.

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<v Speaker 5>It all right day, who has the polse on Wall Street?

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to Bluemo Technology.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Karen Hide in New York and Ed Ludlow here

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<v Speaker 3>in San Francisco, a small Swiss technology startup. It's been

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<v Speaker 3>chosen to rethink how helicopter pilots are trained in the

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<v Speaker 3>US with VR headsets. The FAA will evaluate the technology

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<v Speaker 3>in flight simulators for the first time, taking delivery of

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<v Speaker 3>systems from Zurich based Loft Dynamics and its CEO, Faby Reasons,

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<v Speaker 3>joins US now from Zurich. So what's the scale of

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<v Speaker 3>this agreement, Faby? How many units did you agree with

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<v Speaker 3>the FAA and what does this represent.

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<v Speaker 5>For your tech?

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks? Thanks a lot for having me. Yeah, right, now

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<v Speaker 1>is having units to evaluate the technology, so we are

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<v Speaker 1>building them since twenty and sixty informally known as vrmswitz

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<v Speaker 1>a Land and basically the whole trick caase that we

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<v Speaker 1>are improving the visual projection by using VR headset. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean traditional fly simulators full flight simulators are using dome

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<v Speaker 1>projection and they are actually missing the three D perception

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<v Speaker 1>and with we altual reality, the whole thing gets improved.

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<v Speaker 1>So based on that, we also make it possible for

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<v Speaker 1>pilots fly close to the ground. In addition, it is

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<v Speaker 1>enabling the visual three hundred and sixty degrees around full

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<v Speaker 1>panoramic fuel. And because we're using VR headset instead of

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<v Speaker 1>those gigantic dome projection, the whole thing gets smaller and

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<v Speaker 1>we can move it much more dynamic, improving the fidelity

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<v Speaker 1>level of the entire full motion simulator with full BLOWND

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<v Speaker 1>cockpit and there all possible things.

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<v Speaker 3>Sabi, how much does a single system cost headset and

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<v Speaker 3>the cockpit rig.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So it's switched motion and it's basically replacing the

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<v Speaker 1>traditional simulators, which is around it's around twenty times cheaper

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<v Speaker 1>than what.

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<v Speaker 5>Was there before.

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<v Speaker 1>That allows us to provide at much more spaces training

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<v Speaker 1>to make it avaiable to address the pilot shortage and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like a really nice possibility because it's a

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<v Speaker 1>much smaller foodprint.

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<v Speaker 3>Caroline, what's so interesting about this technology is it's already

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<v Speaker 3>certified in Europe by the European regulator. In the US,

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<v Speaker 3>this is not full certification.

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<v Speaker 2>And to that point, Faby, how many of you therefore

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<v Speaker 2>sold in Europe already?

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<v Speaker 4>Is it something that you've seen a mark shift a

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<v Speaker 4>faster pace of rollout.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, definitely. So last year we've qualified thirteen units in Europe,

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<v Speaker 1>because in Europe you have to qualify each single device,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's really taking off now pilots are doing training

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<v Speaker 1>and not only training but also checking on those units,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's going up more and more. Kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>really really taking off and now expanding to US. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we are really happy that FA is also looking in

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<v Speaker 1>at new technology so that you can pave the way

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<v Speaker 1>to qualify that as well and make this available in US.

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<v Speaker 4>Taking off a few puns going on there, Faby, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>interested in what and how are.

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<v Speaker 2>They taking off? Is it all about helicopters.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm immediately thinking about the new areas of technology, the

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<v Speaker 4>fact that we'll be having well vertical takeoff at some point,

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<v Speaker 4>we hope.

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<v Speaker 1>One. I mean, the reason we went first for the

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<v Speaker 1>helicopter is there was a need in the market because

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<v Speaker 1>I mean there are a lot of safety issues. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>many things you cannot do on a real helicopter, and

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<v Speaker 1>there were simply no units are able to train in

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<v Speaker 1>a realistic manner. So this is kind of like one reason.

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<v Speaker 1>The second reason is helicopter is way far more difficult

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<v Speaker 1>to simulate. So we've taken this as the higher benchmark

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<v Speaker 1>and now going also into the fixed wing market as well,

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<v Speaker 1>perfect mixture the ev tools am O, where we also

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<v Speaker 1>have the technology already which is in Europe already qualified.

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<v Speaker 3>Faby, what is the technological advantage or superiority of your

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<v Speaker 3>headset relative to what Meta is doing with the quest

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<v Speaker 3>or even Apple with the Vision Pro.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a very good question.

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<v Speaker 1>So what the thing is, I mean, at the end,

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<v Speaker 1>we are not building our own hatset. The key thing

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of like to use what's it there on

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<v Speaker 1>the market. The challenge is to qualify it because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>having a hadset on, you don't see your hands, how

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<v Speaker 1>do you operate the cockpit? So we had to do

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<v Speaker 1>very very special technology there. How can you prove to

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<v Speaker 1>the authority, to the aviation authority that everything is still

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<v Speaker 1>without any gimetric stalls and so on.

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<v Speaker 5>So there is a.

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<v Speaker 1>Lot of work and a lot of details to be

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<v Speaker 1>done that at the end the pilot can make use

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<v Speaker 1>of the full emersion plus feels like in the real aircraft.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, so who is building the headset for you?

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<v Speaker 1>Basically we are quite a headset agnostic right now. We

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<v Speaker 1>are using the bario headset. It is the one having

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<v Speaker 1>the resolution which is required from an authority point of view.

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<v Speaker 1>With our own modified IG that we basically can meet

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<v Speaker 1>the regulation specification. So from that point of view, it

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<v Speaker 1>is just kind of like let's say, a visual thing,

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<v Speaker 1>a visual device we are using there, but with the

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<v Speaker 1>advantage of having the three dimensional view and then combining

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<v Speaker 1>with a lot of technology that the person sees him

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<v Speaker 1>or herself as a pilot doing the operation, finding the buttons,

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<v Speaker 1>touchscreens and can operate them.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to understand the supply demand dynamics here at

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<v Speaker 4>the moment, FABI, how much your headsets really needed at

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<v Speaker 4>this moment? How much are we seeing? We know that

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<v Speaker 4>there's strike action among philots. We know that there's an

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<v Speaker 4>issue in terms of supply side, can you rectify that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I mean let me quickly talk to very

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<v Speaker 1>specific narrow market varia right now already started. So every

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<v Speaker 1>helicopter pilot has to do all six months an operational

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<v Speaker 1>proficiency check, which has been normally done on the real aircraft,

0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:38.280
<v Speaker 1>very dangerous doing malfunctions and so on. So actually one

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<v Speaker 1>thhirt twenty percent to one third of the accidents are

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<v Speaker 1>happening whilst doing training and checking. So the heads now

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<v Speaker 1>all moved completely to the CIM. So it's per per

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<v Speaker 1>pilot which is already having the license, it is a

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<v Speaker 1>two to four hours per year then doing additional safety training,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's kind of like about eight hours per pilot.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's one very very small area than in the

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<v Speaker 1>basic training like you as you know, like in US

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<v Speaker 1>for the for the airliner training, there are thousand and

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred dollars which needs to be done. So up

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<v Speaker 1>to a hundred dollars already now can be done on

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<v Speaker 1>a simulator type.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, simulations and all this technology. And it costs money, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it costs money, and I guess fably the next

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<v Speaker 3>question is do you need to raise more money soon

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<v Speaker 3>to fund your growth?

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, we are in a very very good position

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<v Speaker 1>that we already have customers and it continually get further customers,

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<v Speaker 1>so a good.

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<v Speaker 5>Network growth is there, they will tell us.

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<v Speaker 1>Depending on how fast it's now taking off in us,

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<v Speaker 1>we really need to scale as fast as fast as

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<v Speaker 1>we can, so we we look forward how we get

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<v Speaker 1>through that journey.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's pracked, I'm sure.

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<v Speaker 4>Loft Dynamics CEO reason, thanks so much for joining us

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<v Speaker 4>on your journey. Meanwhile, a story that we're going to

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<v Speaker 4>continue to watch for you. The co founder and former

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<v Speaker 4>COO of Altice, Mando Pereira, has been detained for questioning

0:28:10.600 --> 0:28:13.600
<v Speaker 4>in Portugal as part of a sweeping investigation into alleged corruption.

0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:16.760
<v Speaker 4>Last week, local authorities said three people were detain during

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<v Speaker 4>a series of raids of homes and offices across the

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<v Speaker 4>country related to a three year investigation into corruption, tax ford, forgery,

0:28:23.400 --> 0:28:27.040
<v Speaker 4>money laundering. Parrera co founded Ltias Group with Patrick Drahi

0:28:27.119 --> 0:28:29.679
<v Speaker 4>of course a well known name, and Bruno Moneville in

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<v Speaker 4>two thousand and two. He no longer holds executive roles

0:28:32.720 --> 0:28:35.919
<v Speaker 4>at that company. We are coming up, we are talking

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<v Speaker 4>pre seed startups, female entrepreneurship with Chingona Adventures founder partner

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<v Speaker 4>Samara Hernandez.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the Bloomberg.

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<v Speaker 4>Higona Ventures Wow one three years old, already Chicago based

0:28:56.680 --> 0:28:59.440
<v Speaker 4>venture capital firm investing in pre seeds startups, creating businesses

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<v Speaker 4>and not looked growth markets. Last year, the VC closed

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<v Speaker 4>a new fund fifty two million dollars in capital from

0:29:05.880 --> 0:29:09.960
<v Speaker 4>partners like PayPal, always Melinda Gates's Pivotal Ventures to go

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<v Speaker 4>on a ventures found in partner and whous to say?

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<v Speaker 2>Samara Henandez therefore joins us.

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<v Speaker 4>To talk about how this money is being allocated in

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<v Speaker 4>this current environment tomorrow, how are you looking to keep

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<v Speaker 4>finding the right companies to back despite the economic headwinds.

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<v Speaker 11>Now, these companies have built in many different environments. A

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<v Speaker 11>lot of these founders have never been able to get

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<v Speaker 11>venture capital funding. They've always had to get revenue from

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<v Speaker 11>their customers.

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<v Speaker 2>Very early on.

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<v Speaker 11>They haven't been in the traditional markets in Silicon Valley.

0:29:38.760 --> 0:29:41.800
<v Speaker 11>They don't come from family wealth, they don't typically come

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<v Speaker 11>from Ivy League schools, and so we've seen a lot

0:29:44.640 --> 0:29:47.600
<v Speaker 11>of them have to just get revenue from their customers,

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<v Speaker 11>get revenue and other sources and so for us, I

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<v Speaker 11>do believe this is their time to shine, and this

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<v Speaker 11>is a great opportunity to really highlight the startups. They're

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<v Speaker 11>going to succeed in all markets, but particularly this market.

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<v Speaker 4>It feels like, grant me if I'm wrong, given that

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<v Speaker 4>you've been out there looking at these sort of smaller

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<v Speaker 4>prec companies since twenty nineteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it busier in that space now.

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<v Speaker 4>Given that some of the bigger funds of perhaps I

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to write such enormous checks in this current space.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's always busy.

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<v Speaker 11>I think in this market it has been particularly busy

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<v Speaker 11>just because there has been a slowdown in the growth market.

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<v Speaker 11>Investors and IPOs, A lot of early stage companies are

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<v Speaker 11>raising more capital pre series A and so we've seen

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<v Speaker 11>a lot more bridge rounds and pre series A companies

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<v Speaker 11>come to us. So it is definitely busier. But I

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<v Speaker 11>will say it's a correction that needed to happen. The

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<v Speaker 11>last two years were an anomaly. I've been doing this

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<v Speaker 11>for eight years now, and so it's nice to get

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<v Speaker 11>back to real fundamentals, real revenue. And yeah, I would

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<v Speaker 11>say it's busier than ever.

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<v Speaker 3>Smart What are the main factors when you're sitting in

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<v Speaker 3>front of a founder thinking about investing in the precede

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<v Speaker 3>stage about how you write a.

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<v Speaker 11>Check, yeah, and where many times pre product, pre revenue,

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<v Speaker 11>pre name, and so early on, a lot of it

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<v Speaker 11>is the people's side, and we look for founders that

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<v Speaker 11>understand these markets in a unique way. So we're not exclusive,

0:31:17.600 --> 0:31:20.560
<v Speaker 11>we're intentional about where we invest and these founders that

0:31:20.720 --> 0:31:24.040
<v Speaker 11>find these unique opportunities and markets that many see niche

0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:27.800
<v Speaker 11>that are growing and often overlooked, that where the consumer

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<v Speaker 11>demographic has changed, where traditional customers like Base because we

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<v Speaker 11>target a lot of fintech companies, they don't typically know

0:31:36.560 --> 0:31:40.160
<v Speaker 11>or understand how these certain communities work, and so these

0:31:40.200 --> 0:31:42.680
<v Speaker 11>founders come from these communities. They understand it better than

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<v Speaker 11>anybody else. And so we're looking for this unique factor

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<v Speaker 11>in these founders that understand certain markets where others haven't

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<v Speaker 11>even lived or choose to understand. And then very early on,

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<v Speaker 11>we look to see what have they done with very

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<v Speaker 11>little raise because we often are the first in titutional

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<v Speaker 11>check in, so we looked for a path to sales,

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<v Speaker 11>the path to revenue, good unit economics, a plan to

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<v Speaker 11>get there, and that is now something that a lot

0:32:08.880 --> 0:32:12.280
<v Speaker 11>of people are looking at. But the last two years

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<v Speaker 11>that wasn't something that you know, a lot of people

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<v Speaker 11>kind of looked at. It was a lot more momentum driven.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, somorrow, what's going on now in Chicago where you

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<v Speaker 3>are in the free seed environment.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of deals happening.

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<v Speaker 11>Yes, so Chicago is a great market to be and

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<v Speaker 11>it's in the Midwest. There's a lot more newer funds

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<v Speaker 11>coming to market there. When I started the firm, there

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<v Speaker 11>was very little angel money or pre seed, and we

0:32:38.840 --> 0:32:41.200
<v Speaker 11>are growing. There's a lot more funds coming to market.

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<v Speaker 11>As a matter of fact, my largest investor at Illinois

0:32:43.760 --> 0:32:46.280
<v Speaker 11>Growth and Innovation Fund was the reason why we're here.

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<v Speaker 11>They're investing in a lot of new VC funds like

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<v Speaker 11>ours that come from you know, not traditional kind of

0:32:54.280 --> 0:32:57.800
<v Speaker 11>VC backgrounds typically, or are looking at new markets in

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<v Speaker 11>a different way and they are to be the first

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<v Speaker 11>check in and double down on investors like us. They

0:33:04.040 --> 0:33:06.640
<v Speaker 11>can see a different space and can drive offer.

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<v Speaker 4>You of course, had six years of Goldman, you went

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<v Speaker 4>to Math Venture Partners. You've been tried and tested in

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<v Speaker 4>the venture space before forming Jingona, and you've written a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of checks. You're also, of course trying to build

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<v Speaker 4>that diversification by allocating to Latino LATINX founders in particular

0:33:25.040 --> 0:33:27.600
<v Speaker 4>that maybe have gone overlooked. Are they're getting more overlooked

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<v Speaker 4>in this environment? Is people sort of reverted normed, tried

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<v Speaker 4>and tested founders.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, it's a tough market for all founders, but yes,

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<v Speaker 11>I would say particularly women and minorities. It's been hard.

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<v Speaker 11>It's never been easy, but it's particularly harder now. And

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<v Speaker 11>the way we think about it is, you know, we're

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<v Speaker 11>looking at markets for returns first and foremost. I'm Latina,

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<v Speaker 11>you know, we represent less than one percent of all

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<v Speaker 11>venture capital partners in the United States. I'm an immigrant

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<v Speaker 11>to this country, grew up in a low income environment,

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<v Speaker 11>and that is our superpower. It's our unique edge to

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<v Speaker 11>identify these opportunities and businesses that came to the ninety

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<v Speaker 11>nine percent of the population right where it's great to

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<v Speaker 11>get food faster as part of your business. But there's

0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:16.440
<v Speaker 11>so many opportunities for women's health, for certain communities that

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<v Speaker 11>are creating wealth in a very different way. And people

0:34:20.160 --> 0:34:22.920
<v Speaker 11>still think we're niche, you know, and you know the

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<v Speaker 11>numbers that we have one out of every four kids

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<v Speaker 11>being born today is Latino. We are getting higher education

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<v Speaker 11>better than their previous generations. We have one of the

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<v Speaker 11>highest GDP's to be able to spend money, and people

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<v Speaker 11>don't know how to target us, and so for us,

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<v Speaker 11>we see that as the first and foremost an opportunity

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<v Speaker 11>in the market to really drive returns, but also for

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<v Speaker 11>us to uniquely understand these businesses where you don't have

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<v Speaker 11>to ask if our you know, spouse uses the product

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<v Speaker 11>or do research on the market. We can go in

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<v Speaker 11>there and you know, we oftentimes get commented by founders

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<v Speaker 11>that's like, wow, this is at all women team. That's

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<v Speaker 11>that's great, that's fantastic. And you know, again we're not exclusive.

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<v Speaker 11>We're in and so we can bring a lot of

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<v Speaker 11>different perspectives to the cap table, to the boardroom and

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<v Speaker 11>be able to buy at our perspective, our lived experiences

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<v Speaker 11>in these markets to be able to drive returns.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's that usp.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much to yourn Eventures founding partner Samara Hernandez.

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<v Speaker 3>The video game juggernaut Roadblocks is grappling with employee demands

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<v Speaker 3>for more diversity, with current and former employees telling Bloomberg

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<v Speaker 3>that the company's efforts have not gone far enough to

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<v Speaker 3>address their concern. Some even say the managers discourage them

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<v Speaker 3>from continuing to bring up questions about diversity with higher

0:35:43.320 --> 0:35:45.680
<v Speaker 3>ups or at meetings. This is the result of the

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<v Speaker 3>months long investigation into the tech company by Bloomberg's Cecilia Deannastasio,

0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:55.000
<v Speaker 3>who joins US now. So sources tell us that Bazooki

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<v Speaker 3>has basically taking a hands off approach to diversity.

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<v Speaker 5>What have we learned?

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<v Speaker 8>We've learned according to sixteen current and former employees that

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<v Speaker 8>Roblocks well, the makeup of women at the company is

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<v Speaker 8>aligned with other gaming companies at about twenty seven percent.

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<v Speaker 8>Female women at the company say that diversity has not

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<v Speaker 8>been a priority for the company's CEO, and many have

0:36:20.920 --> 0:36:26.040
<v Speaker 8>also described experiences of marginalization that they have themselves felt

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<v Speaker 8>working at Roblos.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so the company themselves, of course have sort of

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<v Speaker 4>come back and said Roadblocks is deliberate in building a

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<v Speaker 4>diverse and engaged workforce a mandate. They say that it

0:36:36.719 --> 0:36:41.000
<v Speaker 4>comes directly from leadership. But that goes against your reporting.

0:36:41.200 --> 0:36:43.520
<v Speaker 4>Why do you think they haven't been deliberate in this

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<v Speaker 4>moment where culturally many are really trying to focus on

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<v Speaker 4>whether or not you are proactive or not in seeking

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<v Speaker 4>out diverse talent to rise to the top.

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<v Speaker 8>Of course, so the gaming company, the gaming industry in

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<v Speaker 8>general has just very poor numbers when it comes to

0:36:59.480 --> 0:37:02.680
<v Speaker 8>gender parity. Half of gamers are women. This is not

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<v Speaker 8>reflected in the makeup of these companies, including publicly traded

0:37:05.719 --> 0:37:08.800
<v Speaker 8>companies like Roadblocks, And if you're not actively working to

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<v Speaker 8>boost these numbers, and especially if you're a company like

0:37:11.600 --> 0:37:14.600
<v Speaker 8>Roblocks that's empowered to pay a lot of money for

0:37:14.680 --> 0:37:19.040
<v Speaker 8>top talent, that really shows that the issue hasn't been prioritized,

0:37:19.080 --> 0:37:22.920
<v Speaker 8>particularly if your companies existed for about twenty years. A

0:37:23.000 --> 0:37:24.920
<v Speaker 8>lot of these gaming companies take an approach that they

0:37:24.960 --> 0:37:28.360
<v Speaker 8>describe as meritocratic, where the best people will surface to

0:37:28.400 --> 0:37:31.800
<v Speaker 8>the top of the company. But sources speaking with me

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<v Speaker 8>to say that what looks like the best employee to

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<v Speaker 8>one person might not actually reflect other people's definition of

0:37:40.200 --> 0:37:41.040
<v Speaker 8>the best employee.

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<v Speaker 5>So see what change is the robot's going to make.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you reported some structural things about the HR

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<v Speaker 3>department that are going to happen later in the summer.

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<v Speaker 8>Sure so, Roadblocks has hired on a Google engineer to

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<v Speaker 8>lead it to HR department. Roblox has made several changes

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<v Speaker 8>both prior to the article coming out and hopefully it

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<v Speaker 8>will continue making these changes in order to bruce diversity.

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<v Speaker 8>Over the last couple of years, where Blocks has increased

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<v Speaker 8>the number the percentage of women at the company as

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<v Speaker 8>it's grown, it's increased the percentage of non white employees,

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<v Speaker 8>although we're not aware of exactly what the breakdown is

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<v Speaker 8>there when it comes to racial demographics.

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<v Speaker 2>So, Celia, Dennis Asio, amazing piece. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>Meanwhile, in your space of gaming, we got some breaking

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<v Speaker 4>headlines coming thinking fast. Microsoft clear as another hurdle as

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<v Speaker 4>the UK Court halts the UK veto case. We understand

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<v Speaker 4>the move comes as a CMO, a CMA in fact,

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<v Speaker 4>is giving a second chance to fix these concerns.

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<v Speaker 2>All of this is as a UK.

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<v Speaker 4>Judge Ed says he will give his reasons for halting

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<v Speaker 4>the case later, but you know everyone's been waiting with

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<v Speaker 4>breath on this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So this is the judge giving a conditional adjournment.

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<v Speaker 3>And what it means is that the CMA, Microsoft Next Vision,

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<v Speaker 3>who were all on the same page about this going

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<v Speaker 3>to the Appeals tribunal, they can now go away and

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<v Speaker 3>work out some compromise. And as we reported last Friday,

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<v Speaker 3>you know sources of talent us. One option might be

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<v Speaker 3>to offer to sell off the UK cloud gaming rights

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<v Speaker 3>allow them to move forward. July eighteenth is the merger

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<v Speaker 3>agreement deadline. That's tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>This allows them to get their end. This allows them

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<v Speaker 2>to get there.

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<v Speaker 3>So many procedural things happening in the UK. The fact

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<v Speaker 3>that the CMA allowed them to go to tribunals try

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<v Speaker 3>and work it out in the first place was a surprise.

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<v Speaker 5>So who knows.

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<v Speaker 4>As we see Activision Blizzard extending its own gains in

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<v Speaker 4>terms of share price, we're at a session high. Those

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<v Speaker 4>arms and those investors, they like the news. Meanwhile, that

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<v Speaker 4>does it for this edition of Bloomberg Technology. But we're

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<v Speaker 4>going to keep a close eye on this Activision.

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