WEBVTT - Berner vs. California 0:00:00.000 --> 0:00:02.240 All right, news round up in Information Overload hour. Here's 0:00:02.279 --> 0:00:04.760 our toll free telephone number if you want to be 0:00:04.800 --> 0:00:06.520 a part of the program. It's eight hundred and ninety 0:00:06.559 --> 0:00:09.960 four one Sean if you'd like to join us. About 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:14.880 an hour ago, four o'clock Eastern, our friends at Berner 0:00:15.040 --> 0:00:18.000 Byarna dot com. I've been telling you all about them. 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:21.080 You know, the beauty of Burner is this non lethal 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:25.600 self protection. We have a crime epidemic in this country 0:00:26.239 --> 0:00:29.560 and it is out of control. And I argue, and 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:31.840 I believe with all my heart, mind, body and soul 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:36.040 that everyone needs a personal safety and security strategy for 0:00:36.159 --> 0:00:42.560 them and their family. Now, how does this relate to Berner, Well, 0:00:42.680 --> 0:00:46.560 they're breaking news today. About an hour ago they filed 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:52.839 the lawsuit against the United Socialist Utopia of California and 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:57.920 its governor, Gavin Newsom for the disarming of everyday civilians 0:00:58.360 --> 0:01:02.320 for even non lethal forms of self defense products. Now, 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:05.720 remember all of these politicians, every one of them, and 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:08.880 I believe they need it. I believe they deserve it. 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:12.039 I don't care what their politics are. We live in 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:16.200 an assassination culture. I want our politicians safe, whether I 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:18.320 agree with them and disagree with them here to talk 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:22.720 about it is Lewan Bom and he's the CMO CFO 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:26.600 of Burner. So you just fillowed this lawsuit an hour ago. 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:30.480 Yes, sir and Sean. Always great to join you and 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:33.520 Merry Christmas to you and your audience. And you know, 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:36.680 we're thankful for you giving us to giving Berner the 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:40.520 platform to talk about something incredibly important to us and 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:45.240 our challenge, our challenge against California's ban on Berna's pepper rounds, 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:49.160 which we believe effects law boddying citizens of the state 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:53.320 who simply wants a safe and effective alternative to lethal force. 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:56.480 Well, you know it's interesting because we have a story 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:59.040 out today. Well well, first of all, we have the 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:01.960 story that I mentioned where, you know, because of the 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:07.080 sanctuary state policies out there, we had another rig driver, 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:12.320 a team wheeler driver that ended up killing a newlywed 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:16.600 couple in Oregon, licensed from the state of California. You know, 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:20.880 three of my fellow Floridians died because you know, you 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:23.040 had a guy that couldn't read English and couldn't read 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:26.600 road signs, and he had licenses in Washington State and 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:30.760 in California. Now there's a story out today, federal prosecutors 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:35.880 in California charged a fifty four year old ice hating 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:40.560 lunatic after he hurled, you know, multiple molotov cocktails into 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:45.519 a downtown federal building in an attack targeting immigration officials. Again, 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:49.000 what have I been saying? The rhetoric is insightful. That 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:52.400 is being used by the elected Democrats all around the country. 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:57.480 It's insightful, it's dehumanizing, you know. And here in Washington, 0:02:57.560 --> 0:03:01.360 d C. We have one National guard's been clinging to 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:03.799 life and he's twenty four years old, and a twenty 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:09.440 year old that lost her life keeping the nation's capital safe. So, 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:12.720 you know, I think self defense is critical and important. 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:16.960 Why would they allow the sale when I lived in California? 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:19.240 Now this goes back to the eighties, you know, so 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:23.320 let's put this in perspective the late eighties. Why was 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:25.560 I I had a license carried permit when I lived 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:28.359 in California? Is are they hard to get? 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:28.680 Now? 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:33.960 Yeah? Extremely hard. You know, as a person that lived 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:37.680 in California for thirty five years, I who've never had 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:41.440 access to a firearm, So you really had to go 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:46.840 the extra mile to have the ability to lethal weapons 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:51.000 and training. So it leaves folks with a lot of 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:57.400 less options, and we're just dumbfounded why there is such 0:03:57.400 --> 0:04:01.080 a lack of common sense to give folks to If 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:04.360 you're going to restrict legal force and limit it to 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:08.120 a few, then the mass needs something that's effective to 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:11.560 defend the sales and burnout is dessolution. And quite frankly, 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:14.920 we have a strong customer base in California, but they're 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:20.440 only relegated to using the kinetic rounds, which are formidable, 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:24.120 but the chemical rounds attack the central nervousism that shuts 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:27.120 down the aggressor for thirty to forty minutes. 0:04:28.760 --> 0:04:31.880 Well, I mean, this is the point. So let's talk 0:04:31.920 --> 0:04:35.240 about the merits of the lawsuit. And I think one 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:37.599 of the problems you have whenever you bring a lawsuit 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:43.080 in California is jurisdiction. And obviously, liberal governors appoint liberal 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:46.840 judges that are activist judges, and then I imagine you 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:49.960 probably lose at the local level, then you probably have 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:52.200 to take it to the appeals court, then you probably 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:55.599 have to then you petition the Supreme Court at some point. 0:04:56.080 --> 0:04:58.159 I would like this to be a case law for 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:01.720 the entire country, because I think every American has the 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:05.640 same right to self defense that all of these elected 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:10.880 officials have. You know, I had this rather infamous exchange 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:12.880 with Bill Deblasio when he was the Mayor of New 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:15.800 York and he came in my studio and he came 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:19.000 in with four or five, six, I don't remember how 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:25.000 many New York City police officers. All of them were armed, rightly, 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:28.479 so I think he deserved the protection. I said, should 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:33.960 every New Yorker have the right to protect themselves in 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:38.599 their homes, in their lives the way you're being protected? 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:41.960 And his answer was, every New Yorker has the right 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:43.640 to be safe? And I'm would be like, that's not 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:46.640 the question I asked you. I said, should every New 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:50.279 Yorker have the right to have a firearm? You know, 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:52.960 assume obviously you go through a background check, whatever the 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:57.680 laws require. And should they have the same ability to 0:05:57.760 --> 0:06:00.000 defend themselves the way you have? And he kept saying 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:02.520 every New Yorker has the right to be safe. It's 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:05.919 his way of saying no. It was his way of ducking, 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:10.799 dodging and weaving. It was his way of obfuscating because 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:14.000 obviously the answer is he does not believe that every 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:18.200 New Yorker should be protected like he's protected. So let's 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:22.440 talk about the merits of the suit and what you believe. Massachusetts, 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:24.160 by the way, used to have a similar band, did 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:25.520 they not on stunt guns. 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:32.599 Yes, that actually the company acts on who produces and 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:38.680 markets the Taser stunt guns challenge the courts and one 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:44.080 based on the fact that the stun guns are protected 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:48.240 under the second right Second Amendment rights, and so Bernard 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:51.919 is making that same same claim. You know, as you 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:55.320 know Sean, we're we're Second Amendment supporters here at Berno. 0:06:55.320 --> 0:07:00.360 Many of us are firearms practitioners, but we also or 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:02.080 the use of common sense when it comes to self 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:09.960 protection because the laws around overuse of force, especially in 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:13.760 the state of California, can ruin a person's life financially 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:16.720 and take away their freedoms, et cetera. So we just 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:22.280 want California to participate like forty other eight other states 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:27.800 in the Union that states that having less lethal alternatives 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:31.200 is the smart thing to do. And if you're in 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:34.800 the blue state like California, we would think that they 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:38.680 would be on board in full support of Burna's mission 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:43.240 to reduce death by firearm. Yet somehow they're restricting us 0:07:43.280 --> 0:07:47.480 from giving law buying citizens the opportunity to defend themselves 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:51.280 without taking or having to resort to deadly force. 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:55.400 And here is that I don't understand because I researched 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:58.560 this and I read your lawsuit. The state of California 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:02.680 allows people to buy lethal firearms and bullets, obviously if 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:06.119 you pass your background check, but they prohibit the sale 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:11.160 and ownership of non lethal pepper rounds, which is what 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:16.679 Berner uses. And they even allow in the state people 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:19.280 to purchase their own pepper spray. The problem with pepper 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:23.080 spray is at that point, you're now close quarter. That's 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:27.520 called you know, at least if somebody's twelve feet away 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:31.240 from you and you pull out your burner launcher and 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:35.920 you can incapacitate them, that prevents them from taking your 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:39.480 weapon from you or having a physical altercation of which 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:44.360 most people are not trained or prepared for. And you know, 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:47.440 and the second thing that I noticed too, is the 0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:50.360 Supreme Court has been very clear in their precedence that 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:55.040 it allows for the protection that the second member of 0:08:55.080 --> 0:09:00.440 protects citizens right to carry weapons commonly possessed for awful 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:07.480 defensive purposes, including modern non lethal weapons. So when did 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:09.040 this come up in California. 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:14.320 It has always been a restriction for us. We've gone 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:19.840 to great lengths to you know, implore legislation and lawmakers 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:24.440 in California. And you know, we are now going to 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:29.800 the airwaves, going to court to demand that the state 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:34.880 revisits their policies, and we're asking all Californians to pick 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:40.200 up the phone, call your state legislat leaders and you know, 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:45.800 demand that they give everyone in California the opportunity to 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:49.559 defend themselves and their families. I think this is probably 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:53.760 an overlooked policy, but it needs to be revisited in 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:59.839 a way where you know, we allow Californians in the yeah, 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:03.439 the era of just out of control crime and homelessness, 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:07.880 et cetera, to give them a chance to have something 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:13.440 that doesn't you know, leave them to resort to the 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:18.240 nuclear option, as we say. And you know, for us, 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:24.000 it's we're not trying to take a fight. It's about 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:26.959 saving lives. Burn is all about saving lives. We want 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:31.559 to work with lawmakers so Californias can legally access these 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:35.679 tools to protect their families. And you know, this is 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:39.560 we strongly feel this is covered and protected by the 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:44.440 Second Amendment and these things can coexist, and burn is 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:48.920 fighting to make sure that you know, the Californian lawmakers 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:52.760 understand our point of view and do what's right for 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:53.920 the for their citizens. 0:10:55.200 --> 0:11:00.800 Well, I applaud you for what you're doing. It's unfortunate, 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:06.200 it's expensive to bring lawsuits. However, I do think if 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:09.760 you don't take a stand here, then these blue states, 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:11.800 you know, they're going to be like Domino's and they're 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:13.840 going to follow. There used to be a saying, so 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:16.160 goes California, so goes the rest of the country. I 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:19.120 don't think that's the case anymore because they moved so 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:22.320 far to the radical left. Did you ever have a 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:24.360 conversation or reach out to the governor? 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:29.600 We are we in the past, we have talked to 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:36.600 organizations like DSIs, who manages security guards and those types 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:41.640 of folks, and you know, we're essentially shut down. At 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:45.160 one point, we had a program that allowed people to 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:48.840 take an no online class to have access to chemical 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:54.040 irriton rounds. But just overnight they changed that policy and 0:11:54.160 --> 0:12:00.439 restricted us from doing that. And we've spoke to makers 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:02.920 in California on behalf of the citizens that we're calling 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:05.800 in and there people called this and say hey, what's 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:08.000 this all about, and we articulate our point of view 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:12.200 and saying, hey, we are on the side of saving 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:16.959 lives here, and he just didn't lead us very far 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:21.840 and very hard to get anything going from that standpoint. So, 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:24.960 you know, we had we were left with no other 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:29.199 option than to bring litigation so that someone can hear 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:32.400 us because we are we believe that we're doing the 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:36.079 right thing from a legal perspective, from a Second Amendment perspective, 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:39.760 and to protect the citizens of California. And Sean, you 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:42.240 and I were both California's at one point, and it's 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:45.640 a beautiful state, and so we're just trying to make 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:49.080 it safe for everyone and giving folks to empowerment to 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:53.239 go out and enjoy the freedoms that this great country provides. 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:56.199 And in a beautiful state like California, and you're afraid 0:12:56.200 --> 0:12:58.560 to leave your own home because you think you're going 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:02.640 to get attacked, that's a travesty and it needs to 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:05.720 be changed and we need empower folks to you know, 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:09.400 enjoy all the freedoms that this great country provides. 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:13.040 Well, I got to tell you something. It is the 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:15.920 technology is superior. Again, I go back to I've never 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:19.280 been a big fan of tasers because if you're involved 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:21.679 in a conflict and it's a taser, that means you're 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:25.559 close quarter fighting. I have often said, if I'm close 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:28.920 quarters and people don't understand what I'm saying, if it's 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:34.520 close quarter confrontation, I would prefer dealing with a fire 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:37.400 ar close quarter pay close attention what I'm saying, then 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:40.840 a knife. It's much harder to defend against a blade. 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:45.560 And I say that, however, you don't want to be 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:48.240 in a position where it's that close that you need 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:53.559 a taser. You don't want to be in close quarters 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:57.400 where you need pepper spray at that point. Most people 0:13:57.440 --> 0:14:00.680 don't have situational self defense skills. I've been training in 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:03.400 it for fifteen years. They're not going to be They're 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:07.080 going to be overwhelmed by a lunatic and they're not 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:09.880 going to be prepared for it, and usually they'll end 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:11.840 up with the weapon and not you. But by the way, 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:14.400 people should look at the videos to know exactly what 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:18.280 Berner offers. Just go to BYRNA dot com. And you're 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:20.440 not only an advertiser, but I believe in the cause, 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:24.040 So I want people to really know what their options 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:28.120 are out there, and you know this way, somebody's coming 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:31.000 at you the twelve feet, fifteen feet, twenty feet away, 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:34.840 you can incapacitate them and you don't have a risk 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:37.120 that they're going to be suing you after or you're 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:40.560 going to be arrested after. But anyway, we really appreciate 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:43.360 your time. Thank you so much for being with us. 0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:48.480 Luan FOM, thank you. We appreciate it. BYRNA dot com. 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:52.240 And it's sad that it's come to this, especially in California. 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:55.000 But it's not a shock, is it. So we're in DC. 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:58.720 Marco Rubio has been too busy traveling the entire globe 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:01.080 and I went through the list last night of all 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:04.040 the areas around the world where you know he's been able, 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:07.200 along with the president to secure peace and that working 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:10.880 double time, over time, triple time to hopefully get a 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:14.040 deal with Russian Ukraine. I hope the killing stops. I 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:16.760 hope this piece in Europe. I hope the piece holds 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:19.320 in the Middle East as well. Here's my interview with 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:21.400 Marco Rubio's Secretary of State. 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:23.480 I want to start this out with a fun question, 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:27.240 because there are really serious issues involving national security piece 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:30.280 around the globe. I mean, you're at the highest level 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:33.240 of discussions and we're going to get into a lot 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:36.040 of the hot spots and success and all that. But 0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:38.040 I got to ask you. There's there's a show that's 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:41.600 come out. It's called The Age of Disclosure. Yeah, okay, 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:44.160 I know everyone probably that right, everyone asks you about it. 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:46.000 Sure, it's a new documentary. 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:51.360 We had repeated instances of something operating in the airspace 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:58.040 over restricted nuclear facilities. It's not ours, and presidents operate 0:15:58.320 --> 0:15:59.920 on a need to know base. 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:03.800 Yeah, okay. That is So a couple points on it. 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:05.360 First of all, I'm not disavowing that I was an 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:07.240 interview that was done almost like maybe three or four 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:09.280 years ago when I was in the Senate, so it 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:11.640 wasn't recent. The second point I would make, I was 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:14.600 describing the allegations that people have come forward with the 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:16.360 people that came forward to us. You know, some of 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:20.040 these people were navy pilots, admirals, generals, whatever that would come. 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:21.000 Forward and say. 0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:24.520 That there were programs in the US government that not 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:26.880 even presidents were made aware of. So I was describing 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:28.400 what people had said to me, not things that I 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:30.480 have firsthand knowledge of in that regard, a little bit 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:32.440 of selective editing, but it's okay because you know, you're 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:35.520 trying to sell a show there. But the fundamental comments 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:37.360 I haven't seen it, but the clips I've seen and 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:39.360 people have shown me are fundamentally true. And that is, 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:41.880 there are things we know this this has been documented. 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:45.240 There have been things that fly over the airspace, restricted airspace, 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:48.400 be it where we're conducting military exercises I like, and 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:51.240 everyone in the government says they're not ours. And so 0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:53.960 what I worry most about, just me personally, is that 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:58.960 some adversary, another country, for example, has developed some asymmetric 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:02.040 capability for valance of the like that we just are 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:05.200 not prepared for. You know, we're looking for missiles and 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:09.080 fighter jets and they're coming at us with drones and balloons. 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:11.480 The one observation I had is we had people that 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:14.320 did very important jobs in the US government who are 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:16.840 saying these things. So we have people with very high 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:19.680 jobs in the US government that are either a liars, 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:22.280 B crazy, or c telling the truth. And two of 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:24.879 those three options are not good. Those three options, I 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:27.479 don't know the answer. I don't have any point of 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:29.040 You know, I don't want to call them liars. I 0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:31.720 just don't have any independent way to verify everythings they said. 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:33.920 I spent time. 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:37.800 I've been talking to the mother of the National guardsmen 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:41.280 that's in a hospital here in d C. Who's clinging 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:46.960 to life. The issue of the vetting of Afghan nationals. 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:49.400 You know, we learned that so many of them had 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:51.720 so many warning signs. And I'll put up on the 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:54.879 screen the statistics we took in seventy six thousand. There 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:57.000 were over five thousand that never should have. 0:17:56.920 --> 0:18:00.320 Made it into this country. We were sure to repeat. 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:03.800 Leave by the Biden administration that they had been vetted. 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:07.280 There's no way that many of them could have been vetted. 0:18:07.400 --> 0:18:09.800 Eight hundred and eighty six of them. Will put that 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:13.119 on the screen. Also are at large in the country 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:15.520 as we speak. Right, you put a pause on this. 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:19.160 The State Department has, the President has Christy Noma's spoken out, 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:22.120 where are we with all of this and how dangerous 0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:22.320 is this? 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:24.760 Well the pause is actually you know, we've announced it, 0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:26.960 but in fact we've we've been much more careful since 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:28.520 we took over, with a lot of pressure on us 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:30.440 by the way to let more people in so many 0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:33.520 of them served as interpreters alongside us in Afghanistan, and 0:18:33.600 --> 0:18:34.840 so their lives were at risk. So we had a 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:36.719 lot of pressure to begin with, but we slowed that 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:39.520 process down from day number one to take an extra 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:42.359 look at people. Here's the problem with vetting people. You 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:44.359 can't have a perfect vet, no matter who that person 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:46.119 is for a couple of reasons. The first is we 0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:48.919 don't You can only vet information that exists, right, so 0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:51.280 it is possible that in many cases there are things 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:52.120 about these people. 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:54.000 You just don't know no matter how much you vet them. 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:55.920 You just don't have certain information. 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:57.600 And in some parts of the world where there's very 0:18:57.640 --> 0:19:00.320 limited documentation, very limited, you can't just go out and 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:02.919 interview people. In many cases because of the presence of 0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:06.320 the Taliban, et cetera, it becomes very difficult. The second thing, 0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:08.120 you can't vet. You can vet what people have done 0:19:08.119 --> 0:19:10.320 in the past. You can't vet what people might do 0:19:10.400 --> 0:19:12.800 in the future. There's another dynamic at play here, and 0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:15.239 that is you could allow someone into our country who 0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:18.960 has no history of radicalization, perhaps they even have worked 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:21.200 with you in the past, but they are susceptible to 0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:24.320 radicalization once they enter the United States because they don't 0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:26.720 assimilate well, because they fall victim to some of this 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:30.600 online propaganda and efforts to radicalize people, and two or 0:19:30.600 --> 0:19:33.000 three years later you find that they have radicalized. 0:19:33.240 --> 0:19:35.320 That is a threat, That is a real threat. It 0:19:35.400 --> 0:19:36.320 is a threat for everyone. 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:38.600 We have homegrown people people in the United States born 0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:40.760 here that have been radicalized. But I do think it 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:43.800 is a higher threat among people that come from cultures 0:19:43.840 --> 0:19:46.320 and backgrounds that make them make it harder for them 0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:48.760 to assimilate once they get into the United States. 0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:51.880 And that make them vulnerable to Arabic. 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:55.639 Language, for example, a propaganda by ISIS or al Qaida 0:19:55.760 --> 0:19:56.119 or any. 0:19:55.960 --> 0:19:58.200 Of these other groups that are looking to radicalize people. 0:19:58.480 --> 0:20:01.720 So it's look, the bottom line is there is no 0:20:01.800 --> 0:20:05.159 effective way to allow hundreds of thousands of people to 0:20:05.280 --> 0:20:08.160 enter any country in the world and not face consequences. 0:20:08.200 --> 0:20:10.240 You take one hundred thousand people from anywhere in the world, 0:20:10.640 --> 0:20:12.119 and you're going to have some percentage of them to 0:20:12.200 --> 0:20:15.320 turn out bad, either to turn into criminals or potentially terrorists. 0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:17.560 I think that threat is heightened when you come from 0:20:17.600 --> 0:20:22.720 places that have terrorist movement that would target these people 0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:24.760 for odicalization once they enter our country. 0:20:25.040 --> 0:20:28.120 You know, there seems to be some misunderstanding I called 0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:31.480 the Trump doctrine. I have my definition of it. Okay, 0:20:31.520 --> 0:20:34.520 I agree with the president. I don't want America involved 0:20:34.560 --> 0:20:38.199 in forever wars. Ever, again, I agree with that part, 0:20:38.480 --> 0:20:41.919 But that does not mean isolationism. There seems to be 0:20:42.000 --> 0:20:46.720 a group of Americans that misinterpret what the president means. 0:20:47.160 --> 0:20:50.160 As an example, soon his first term, he wiped out 0:20:50.280 --> 0:20:53.240 the Isis Caliphate. He took out Solo money on the tarmac, 0:20:53.280 --> 0:20:56.320 he took out Magdady and associates. He dropped the mother 0:20:56.359 --> 0:21:00.280 of all bombs on Afghanistan. You know, I don't know 0:21:00.400 --> 0:21:02.840 how anybody could think the world's not a safer place 0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:04.760 by taking out Rand's nuclear sites. 0:21:05.840 --> 0:21:07.359 That's not isolationism. 0:21:07.640 --> 0:21:11.600 That is American force used for good and twelve days 0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:14.399 later Israel and Iran stopped fighting. 0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:16.560 But the way I would describe it, it's not isolationism. 0:21:16.600 --> 0:21:19.480 It's also not adventurism, which is this argument that others 0:21:19.480 --> 0:21:22.800 have fallen into that somehow there's a problem in the 0:21:22.880 --> 0:21:24.560 world and the only solution to it is for the 0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:28.080 United States to send military assets to go solve it. 0:21:28.600 --> 0:21:30.600 What the President has done is he has Number one, 0:21:30.680 --> 0:21:31.520 he defines what's. 0:21:31.400 --> 0:21:33.440 In the core national interest to the United States. There's 0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:33.720 a lot of. 0:21:33.800 --> 0:21:36.160 Terrible things happening in the world, not all of them 0:21:36.200 --> 0:21:39.360 are at our core national interest. Number two, he defines 0:21:39.400 --> 0:21:41.440 what the outcome he wants, and number three, he takes 0:21:41.520 --> 0:21:43.879 actions that are very specific and limited to getting the 0:21:43.920 --> 0:21:45.440 outcome that's good for our country. 0:21:45.680 --> 0:21:48.879 So the case in point is irong Iran had these 0:21:48.960 --> 0:21:49.840 nuclear facilities. 0:21:49.880 --> 0:21:51.360 We know what they were, We've known what they were 0:21:51.400 --> 0:21:55.240 for a long time, and the president conducted a precise campaign. 0:21:55.320 --> 0:21:57.920 It wasn't a prolonged war. It was a twenty four 0:21:57.920 --> 0:22:00.520 hour operation. B two bombers left the mainland of the 0:22:00.640 --> 0:22:04.480 United States, came over a defined target, dropped payload fourteen 0:22:04.640 --> 0:22:08.240 missiles or fourteen rockets right into the holes of the 0:22:08.320 --> 0:22:11.399 boilers the bunker of us, turned around and went home. 0:22:11.520 --> 0:22:13.879 And that's it. It didn't involve five days of fighting. 0:22:13.880 --> 0:22:16.240 It in't all fifteen days of fighting. It involved ground 0:22:16.240 --> 0:22:17.200 troops or six months. 0:22:17.359 --> 0:22:17.920 He had a goal. 0:22:17.960 --> 0:22:20.160 The goal was we were going to destroy this nuclear facility. 0:22:20.200 --> 0:22:22.199 We were going to obliterate it. He went in, he 0:22:22.240 --> 0:22:24.040 did it, he got out, We were done. 0:22:24.080 --> 0:22:26.880