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Speaker 1: of Mick Shots. Bill Jones with Everson Walls and the
Speaker 1: star of the show, Mickey span And look what here.
Speaker 1: Oh he's got this read the entire week, give it
Speaker 1: the bill, and probably we should call this the pregame
Speaker 1: show to the breaking news of the day, because we
Speaker 1: are guaranteed after we sign off at two fifteen, there
Speaker 1: will be breaking news from the Yep, it's happen. Everything
Speaker 1: happened on Friday, it happened on Monday. We'll see if
Speaker 1: it happens again on Tuesday. And here comes our breaking news. Oh,
Speaker 1: we've got some breaking news right now. Yes, entering the studio.
Speaker 1: Oh what is gonna join us for her swan song?
Speaker 1: A right, I can go, but you're gonna need me
Speaker 1: tomorrow one last time. That's right. Hid Hi guys, So
Speaker 1: what are you doing? You just brought you in on
Speaker 1: everybody's show today. No, only I don't think only one show.
Speaker 1: You have to announce to everything. Well Mickey said something
Speaker 1: about Swan song. Oh yeah, I know, okay, yeah, all right, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm aware this will be what's tight you guys, this
Speaker 1: will be This will be Danny's last of a shoal
Speaker 1: deal for the Dallas COVID. Yeah. I thought it would be.
Speaker 1: Yesterday I did a whole bunch of shows with Mickey
Speaker 1: and Lo and behold it was me. See now with me,
Speaker 1: I'm the one. We have a special connection we do.
Speaker 1: We do the games outside there on the on the turf,
Speaker 1: you know, we do that when Toastito's championship, plausa, thank
Speaker 1: you sir, Thank you Bill. Bill never misses a chance
Speaker 1: to get in that spot there it is toast Tito's Championshi,
Speaker 1: fans love us out there out there when rains, snow,
Speaker 1: it was cold and it was hot. One of that
Speaker 1: first one, the first one we came through like champs,
Speaker 1: didn't we We We sure did, right and the Cowboys one
Speaker 1: didn't it. Yes, So just to pull back the curtain, Danny,
Speaker 1: this was her last day with us. She's moving on
Speaker 1: to the Arizona Cardinals. Get Arizona sum Thank God, you're
Speaker 1: not going to floor. And so I thought it jumped
Speaker 1: on that, jumped on that Kyler Murray bandwagon. You know,
Speaker 1: he played high school football here in Tech in Tensas. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a quarterback. If he If he did that, then
Speaker 1: Bill definitely known. The next thirty minutes we're going to
Speaker 1: hear about he ended up somewhere else red, still wearing red, yep,
Speaker 1: and uh, and played pretty well against the Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 1: So Danny just decided, you know what, it looks like
Speaker 1: a pretty good team to work for, right, gonna go
Speaker 1: for one and oh instead of and one? Of course not. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's very bitter sweet. Definitely going to miss working with
Speaker 1: everyone and all the fun I've had hopping on the show.
Speaker 1: But I'm not going to get too much into it
Speaker 1: because I've spent the last two workdays crying to every
Speaker 1: person I talked to about it. Mickey can attest to that.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna keep a dry eye today. Good good light,
Speaker 1: keep it light. Okay, I'm in a bed against it,
Speaker 1: but that's okay. Yeah, you know what, that's a pretty
Speaker 1: safe bet, right, Yeah, I'm in a bet against it
Speaker 1: as well. Yes, you'll be Okay, so that's our breaking news,
Speaker 1: all right, hopefully that's all right. Yeah, Well, after we
Speaker 1: finished yesterday, so like on Friday, it was the Lyle
Speaker 1: Collins news came down after we signed off the air,
Speaker 1: and then yesterday Zack Martin coming off the COVID list
Speaker 1: and Randy Gregory is on the COVID list. Why do
Speaker 1: we know now, Mickey, we know that Randy Gregory. It
Speaker 1: sounds like UM tested positive. He is vaccinated UM. It's
Speaker 1: been reported that he's asymptomatic, although when Jerry was asked
Speaker 1: about it, he said he he had mild symptoms, So
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that's not kind of fits into a symptomatic.
Speaker 1: But if he is, and he can test negative twice
Speaker 1: in a twenty four hour pier or accepted tests separated
Speaker 1: by twenty four hours, it's a five day deal, so
Speaker 1: he could get back technically in time to play. It's
Speaker 1: true on Sunday if he's feeling, you know, good enough
Speaker 1: to go out there in place. Well, and that's the
Speaker 1: thing is is you have to be asymptomatic right when
Speaker 1: you pass the or test, pass the test twenty four
Speaker 1: hours apart exactly. Yeah, so we'll see, you know, they'll
Speaker 1: kind of hold out hope. But we saw when we
Speaker 1: were holding out hope for Zach Martin, it didn't really
Speaker 1: work out a little bit different though, right, but I
Speaker 1: think he he had symptoms. I think yeah, so uh
Speaker 1: so yeah, so that one broke Bill, Bill, I want
Speaker 1: to talk, so you had it right, Uh Okay, So
Speaker 1: I talked. I listened to Ceedee Lamp on the Hard Knocks.
Speaker 1: He talked about the paste you had, the toothpaste. He's
Speaker 1: burning the candles and and he didn't even know what
Speaker 1: to cook. That was like the simple things like because
Speaker 1: you didn't ever smell taste that same with you. I
Speaker 1: lost my smell and taste, but it wasn't as noticeable
Speaker 1: for me. For my daughter, Um, she didn't have her.
Speaker 1: It was weeks before she got her full smell and
Speaker 1: taste back. She was playing about it at least for
Speaker 1: when you eat, like when you eat like you just
Speaker 1: I can eat anyway. It didn't matter. I just did
Speaker 1: hell everything everything anyway right, Everything tastes like paper matter
Speaker 1: to be grand years hit before the vaccination started, right
Speaker 1: right as they did before they you were eligible, before
Speaker 1: I was eligible. It was in February. It hit when
Speaker 1: we had the ice storm here. My whole family we
Speaker 1: lost power. My youngest daughter, she and her husband lost power.
Speaker 1: So we went to go live with for a couple
Speaker 1: of days with my middle daughters with her family, her
Speaker 1: husband and two kids. And you infected them and well no,
Speaker 1: and so two days into it calling, my son in
Speaker 1: law wakes up and he's not feeling them. Well, I
Speaker 1: got out of that house as quick as I could,
Speaker 1: and by that night I was feeling feeling it too.
Speaker 1: And so everybody got it. Yeah, then, so for that's
Speaker 1: that's when I broke my shovel in my pool. Well,
Speaker 1: here's the here's the thing, um, what I have heard
Speaker 1: for people who have it. What I heard at the
Speaker 1: time was you got to keep moving, okay, you can't.
Speaker 1: Don't lay around okay. So I went out and with
Speaker 1: a shovel. My worst day of it was a couple
Speaker 1: of days later. I probably would have called in sick
Speaker 1: that day. Of course, we were working from home, and
Speaker 1: so it was easy to just go upstairs and do
Speaker 1: a show. Um. And but I went out and chipped
Speaker 1: away at the I got my shovel. It was chipping
Speaker 1: away at the ice limpool and I felt much better
Speaker 1: after that you get the blood circular. That was three
Speaker 1: of us chipping away. I lost their head in my
Speaker 1: shovel and stuff stick in my hand. Mine almost went
Speaker 1: underneath the ice and I had the yanket back and
Speaker 1: then I realized all the ice that I broke up.
Speaker 1: The pump came on right, but it made everything go
Speaker 1: into the skimmer and it blocked up the water going
Speaker 1: to the pump. Yeah, so Mick, you know, I'm dressed
Speaker 1: like I'm going skin right, So I just take my
Speaker 1: hand and I reached in there to get it out
Speaker 1: and I came out and it's like blow zero and
Speaker 1: my hand was but not as bad as what Danny
Speaker 1: had to go through. Oh yeah, I wasn't using a
Speaker 1: shovel because we don't have a pool. But at my parents' house,
Speaker 1: my dad and I were having to turn the water
Speaker 1: off because the pipe burst in the bathroom above the kitchen.
Speaker 1: So we had a nice little flood and the dark
Speaker 1: with no power and no water. So many people that
Speaker 1: went through that kind of thing, and it took literally
Speaker 1: and I don't know for your family, but it was
Speaker 1: five months later. There's in our neighborhood. They're still construction
Speaker 1: vehicles around the neighborhood, and the renovation started in June.
Speaker 1: Was supposed to be about a month and it's still
Speaker 1: gone on. I don't know. I was gonna say this
Speaker 1: the truth because I've been having to share my bathroom
Speaker 1: with my parents. So wow, and you still look great? Wow,
Speaker 1: still look great. That's a tough deal. Yeah, why don't
Speaker 1: you think I'm leaving. I have three daughters, Stanny, and
Speaker 1: if one of my daughters had to share a bathroom
Speaker 1: with my wife, somebody wouldn't be living. Somebody wouldn't be
Speaker 1: living here. You know, I never lost power. I never
Speaker 1: lost power at all. And my son's upstairs on a treadmill, like, dude,
Speaker 1: you know, we're really pushing it here. He's talking about
Speaker 1: on the treadmill. You know, it's freezing outside. My family's
Speaker 1: on the WhatsApp. They're like, well, we're having probably lights
Speaker 1: just went out. Lights just went out, and we're like
Speaker 1: quiet in our house and they're like, what's going on
Speaker 1: with Cubby and his family? And we just finally said, hey,
Speaker 1: we all came over here and no lights, everything's still working,
Speaker 1: and look we didn't want them off running over to
Speaker 1: my house. Yeah, come on, And then it goes off
Speaker 1: at my house, then they're gonna go back home. So
Speaker 1: I'm pretty selfish at that time, I must admit. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But back on the COVID and with these players going
Speaker 1: through it, and it obviously it varies and viral load
Speaker 1: is a big thing. I understood, Um, it varies with
Speaker 1: each person, but I had I still had some. I
Speaker 1: could feel it for over three weeks three week period.
Speaker 1: There's more muscle aches and so forth. I can only
Speaker 1: imagine for a professional athlete who has those kind of symptoms.
Speaker 1: I know Miles Garrett talked about it last season that
Speaker 1: he it took him till the end of the season
Speaker 1: before he finally got over it after getting it, I
Speaker 1: think in November last year, I mean the Celtics player
Speaker 1: he said he still feels it. Yeah, he said he
Speaker 1: still feels him Yeah, And there's entire season after that.
Speaker 1: And see he was what they call a long hauler
Speaker 1: then probably and so um, but I can like we
Speaker 1: were talking about Zack Martin last week, Well he didn't
Speaker 1: practice last week. If he truly had symptoms, how do
Speaker 1: you play in an NFL game on a Thursday night
Speaker 1: having not practiced? And so hopefully Randy doesn't have symptoms
Speaker 1: and can be ready to play on something. And you
Speaker 1: know what, and I think this is something and I
Speaker 1: think Jerry talking today and his radio seving it just
Speaker 1: kind of resigned to this is going to be like
Speaker 1: somebody spraining their ankle. It's going to continue to happen.
Speaker 1: And as a matter of fact, I just read something
Speaker 1: that the Saints had a breakout. Yes, they do. The
Speaker 1: teams like six offensive coaches I think coaches and the
Speaker 1: nutritionists and unfortunately, you know, they've been moving around, so
Speaker 1: they're probably in double jeopardy on this. What do you
Speaker 1: do with that? Man? Yeah? Do you do with that?
Speaker 1: It's amazing? And you know, and I think, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm still somewhat cautious, but I think we're everybody's just
Speaker 1: so ready to get back to living life the way
Speaker 1: they were living life. And it's kind of hard to
Speaker 1: put the genie back in the bottle once you start,
Speaker 1: you know, doing that after being so cautious for a
Speaker 1: year and a half. But look at football stadiums all
Speaker 1: across the country right now. Yeah, in the NFL and
Speaker 1: college but the storm the field in Arkansas and Fayetteville,
Speaker 1: I should see. Yeah, So and then that's not all
Speaker 1: that took place yesterday. Right. They did put Michael Gallop
Speaker 1: on injured reserve, so he has to miss at least
Speaker 1: three games so and supposedly his calf you know, strain
Speaker 1: and that's kind of a euphemism for a tear in
Speaker 1: your muscle. Right, Um, it's three to five, so we'll see.
Speaker 1: But he's moving real well, right, Danny. Yeah, we saw him.
Speaker 1: We were walking to lunch and we saw him. He
Speaker 1: was in a massive boot and you know, Mickey said, hey,
Speaker 1: like that's that's a pretty big boot. And he lost
Speaker 1: his like a Scott cover my calf and he was
Speaker 1: wobbling on it. But he looked good. He was in good,
Speaker 1: high spirit. He was moving well. But he had a
Speaker 1: boot up to his knee, so uh yeah, and they
Speaker 1: had mild and it was reported as he'd probably be
Speaker 1: out three to five rice. Yeah, and there's five weeks
Speaker 1: until the byeway. Till the bye you pointed that out yesterday.
Speaker 1: That's hard in a contract year. Yeah, yeah, absolutely interesting
Speaker 1: and so we might as well continue on things we've
Speaker 1: learned since the show. Um, Brandon Knight is off COVID nineteen,
Speaker 1: so they'll have their backups in place on the offensive line. Uh.
Speaker 1: They did bring back Lirium Holula. How did it right?
Speaker 1: Practice squad. Uh, So they bring back a kicker, So
Speaker 1: that'll be something we have to talk about why exactly.
Speaker 1: Uh they did that. Also Darien Thompson who strained a hamstring. Uh,
Speaker 1: but he was on the practice squad, so he's reserve.
Speaker 1: They have called him up from the practice squad. So
Speaker 1: he was still on the practice one. So he's on
Speaker 1: on the injured, the practice squad injured. And Burton was
Speaker 1: on the practice Now he's on the practice Yeah, thirty
Speaker 1: three right, he saw this preseason. Yeah, man, I'm just
Speaker 1: you know, at the DV I'm like, whoa, They're gonna
Speaker 1: keep that guy playing. They also they also signed wide
Speaker 1: receiver Rothbert Foster to the practice squad, and Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: broke news this morning on his segment when they asked
Speaker 1: him who was going to play right tackle in place
Speaker 1: of Lale Collins, he said, Terrence Steele. I just said Steele. Oh,
Speaker 1: so we could talk about that also, which, yeah, I
Speaker 1: know how you feel about that. Well, you what it
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Speaker 1: said Chris. Man listened to Chris, and so we took
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Speaker 1: I thought they were funny, the clips I was saying.
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Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting. It's gonna be tough, and
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Speaker 1: about whether so Peyton ast him. So do you watch
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Speaker 1: of scouting future opponents or what and he's Travis is like,
Speaker 1: I just kind of watch it whatever, you know. And
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Speaker 1: See that's the kind of stuff I don't need to
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Speaker 1: used to tell us I don't know who we're playing,
Speaker 1: it's proof right there there you go. You know, you
Speaker 1: tell me, Everson, how common do you think that is
Speaker 1: that a player, Okay, they get finished with a game
Speaker 1: and they literally don't know who's the next team on
Speaker 1: their schedule. Much most twenty four hours he didn't. He
Speaker 1: still didn't know who the next team was. Usually the
Speaker 1: ones that the banging heads doing the ball game, you know,
Speaker 1: those guys linebackers, tight ends, defensive lineman offer they would know,
Speaker 1: they would that could happen to them more than it
Speaker 1: would happen to a dB or wide receiver. We know
Speaker 1: who we're gonna play. I'm walk mine as the game
Speaker 1: goes on, but when I first get the schedule, I'm
Speaker 1: walk mine. You don't know what team you're playing, but
Speaker 1: you know what receiver you're playing. Yes, and the quarterback quarterback? Right?
Speaker 1: All right? So now we know who we think it's
Speaker 1: gonna play right tackle, Yes, Terrence Steele, No Martin, it
Speaker 1: didn't sound like it. And no McGovern right, he's a
Speaker 1: he would be a backup. And no Insecki. Both of
Speaker 1: those guys were playing backup roles. Right. The veteran that
Speaker 1: I told you, yeah and yesterday, the best memor I'd said,
Speaker 1: the best thing that Kellen Moore could say about the
Speaker 1: veteran in second was that he's very knowledgeable and and
Speaker 1: and big. All right. So from what you saw in
Speaker 1: training camp in the preseason, Okay, if you're choosing between
Speaker 1: Insecki or Steele, which one has the better chance of
Speaker 1: playing a full four quarters? Steel? Yes, And I based
Speaker 1: at it on When they started training camp, Steele was
Speaker 1: second team right tackle and Secki was second team left tackle.
Speaker 1: And then about a week or so into training camp,
Speaker 1: suddenly steals on the left side and Secki's on the
Speaker 1: right side. And I'm saying, if you're gonna be the
Speaker 1: backup swing tackle, you've got to play both spots right,
Speaker 1: and the hardest spot to play is left tack right.
Speaker 1: So if they move Steele over the left tackle, they
Speaker 1: say in their thinking, Okay, he's good here. Now let's
Speaker 1: see if he can do this. And it didn't change
Speaker 1: really now in a couple of the preseason games it did,
Speaker 1: but eventually Steele got snaps at left tackle. So we'll
Speaker 1: see how it goes. But which one do you like
Speaker 1: better matched up against Joey Bosa, Zach Martin and and
Speaker 1: and you know, and I'm gonna I'm gonna give Nate
Speaker 1: credit for this. We were talking in Douglas's office before
Speaker 1: they went on his show, and he had a really
Speaker 1: good point because Jerry said, yeah, he's Steele gonna right tackle. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, we've got a lot of confidence in him,
Speaker 1: but we'll give him some help, which I'm going, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's good because last year they started off not giving
Speaker 1: them any help, right, and he first the first draft
Speaker 1: play of the game, the chaos So Nate's point was
Speaker 1: first quarter, give him some help. Put the tight end
Speaker 1: over there, motion the tight end over there, and let
Speaker 1: him either stay in motion and if he's going out,
Speaker 1: chip and go out, or just sit, settle down and
Speaker 1: help him out. Let him get into the flow of
Speaker 1: the game first, before you turn them loose. Don't let
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa step right in the first snap and have
Speaker 1: this guy one on one in a passage, which tight
Speaker 1: end is the key? Naw Well, because Schultz, please thank you,
Speaker 1: because I love jawing. But man, he just can't even
Speaker 1: get in anybody's way. Well, I love him as a
Speaker 1: wild I couldn't wait for him to get back. He
Speaker 1: showed his butt in the game he got off, but
Speaker 1: the blocking for him has not improved. I wonder if
Speaker 1: if he still fears the knee itself. Danny's the expert
Speaker 1: on job. Jarwin was the guest on Cowboys Hour last night,
Speaker 1: the radio show with Brad Shaming myself, and he was wonderful,
Speaker 1: per usual, and he was saying he's not feeling anything
Speaker 1: in the knee. You know, since I asked him when
Speaker 1: at what point making a cut or running a route
Speaker 1: of he didn't even really think about and he's like, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm back, and he said right before they went to
Speaker 1: training camp and Britt Brown has been helping him rehab,
Speaker 1: so he's not even like thinking about his knee. So
Speaker 1: he's saying that there was no knee problem, lingering that
Speaker 1: he's he's feeling when he caught the ball the other night.
Speaker 1: He no fear, he don't know and he put his head. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but get getting the person down the cool thing about him?
Speaker 1: So was it Brad that asked the question, asked him
Speaker 1: what things you need to work on? Because he talked
Speaker 1: about I've got things to work on. He brought up
Speaker 1: his blocking, and he brought up the play right the
Speaker 1: option that he didn't make the block, and he said
Speaker 1: it as because he heard about it all day. Yes, right,
Speaker 1: he said he hate it, hate at him the hole
Speaker 1: for two days there and he's good. He said, if
Speaker 1: I let my teammates down, he goes because that's a
Speaker 1: block eye And that was a key miss because you're
Speaker 1: talking the game totally looks different if we score a touchdown.
Speaker 1: That job. So going back to right tackle, Gosh, if
Speaker 1: it's gonna be five games and I understand it's steal
Speaker 1: somewhat of an appeal process going on, and it's like,
Speaker 1: isn't Zack Martin you put him out there? Is McGovern
Speaker 1: a better right guard than steal is a right tackle?
Speaker 1: You know? And I don't know if they just I
Speaker 1: might say yes, they just don't. I think so, But
Speaker 1: I don't know if they just don't want to change things.
Speaker 1: That's what I think it is. I think it's you
Speaker 1: want to change one thing instead of two, right, which
Speaker 1: I understand. But I think when you have Zach Martin,
Speaker 1: who is your player who you would be moving as
Speaker 1: a second piece, I just don't understand how that's not
Speaker 1: the most appealing to you. Because of his athleticism and
Speaker 1: his ability to be just as good at right jackle
Speaker 1: as he is at right guard, and because we've seen
Speaker 1: Connor McGovern who's played well at right guard, and that's
Speaker 1: what made the difference. Even if you're not just game
Speaker 1: planning for Joey Bosa and you're looking at those next
Speaker 1: four games last year when every offensive lineman except for
Speaker 1: Connor Williams was missing multiple games with injuries, and seeing
Speaker 1: how that was affecting the flow of the offense and
Speaker 1: affecting the run efficiency wouldn't you want to do whatever
Speaker 1: it takes for those five games to really try and
Speaker 1: keep this team and keep the flow and the balance
Speaker 1: that you need as opposed to if you don't feel
Speaker 1: like Terrence Steele is the best option at right tackle,
Speaker 1: move Zack Martin over and that kind of keeps your
Speaker 1: team maybe closer to the level of play it had
Speaker 1: with Lyle Collins and keep you in the vision. I
Speaker 1: don't think you're getting an argument from anybody in this room. Well,
Speaker 1: I'll play Devil's advocate, all right. Would Zack Martin make
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl as a right tackle? I think he'd
Speaker 1: make a Pro Bowl of any position. To be judge,
Speaker 1: I don't know judging. We don't judge. I've seen in
Speaker 1: two games. Yes. I thought when he moved out there
Speaker 1: he was pretty darn good. Somebody asked Kellen. Somebody asked
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore, Kellen Moore about him playing right tackle, and
Speaker 1: he basically said, Zach Markin do anything. We asked, thank you, why?
Speaker 1: Thank you? Okay? And that if? Okay? If if? What
Speaker 1: is a which is the more important or more difficult
Speaker 1: position to play? I say the tackle? I think the tackle,
Speaker 1: but from a quarterback standpoint, it's not getting pressure up
Speaker 1: the middle. I was going to say for this team.
Speaker 1: So so that's my point. Yeah, so so depends on
Speaker 1: who you plan it. Yeah. So my question is if
Speaker 1: he is so good at right tackle, why are they
Speaker 1: playing him at guard? Oh you mean like permanently permanently?
Speaker 1: Why is he Why is he a guard if he
Speaker 1: is so good at tackle, because he Layal Collins and
Speaker 1: Tyrn Smith was the guard before he was attackle and
Speaker 1: then they moved the tackle right. So why why when
Speaker 1: everybody's healthy, does Lyle Collins play tackle and Martin play guard?
Speaker 1: That came in first? Yeah, I'm there for a minute.
Speaker 1: I mean so, but okay, when you're saying to the
Speaker 1: legion switch, why if if if tackle is a premium position,
Speaker 1: right and he can play tackle that well, and he
Speaker 1: played tackle at Notre Dame. He didn't play inside and
Speaker 1: Notre Dame. He played left tackle at Notre Dame. Then
Speaker 1: why in the Attackle, why didn't he come into the
Speaker 1: league playing tackle? I don't know about. Maybe they needed
Speaker 1: a guard, especially for this team specifically, if you like
Speaker 1: and you trust what you have in Lyle Collins, put
Speaker 1: Zack Martin at right guard. I'm not saying I agree
Speaker 1: that I understand what you're saying. But if you think
Speaker 1: about when he got here twenty the whole dynamic of
Speaker 1: the team was Remember Jason Garrett was trying to rebuild
Speaker 1: the offensive stug free you still around, Yes, okay, he
Speaker 1: was the right tackle, so they they were having problems
Speaker 1: in the middle of the offensive line. That's why they
Speaker 1: when they traded down in twenty thirteen. Was it for
Speaker 1: Travis Frederick or twelve one of the two thirteen right?
Speaker 1: It was like, I remember Jason Garrett sitting in here
Speaker 1: telling me that we are so weak up the middle.
Speaker 1: And he goes and he wasn't like trying to disparage
Speaker 1: anybody that was playing there, because they're playing to play
Speaker 1: their ass off, but they weren't just good enough. Right,
Speaker 1: he goes, We're getting knocked back three yards trying to
Speaker 1: run the ball, not pass block, run the ball. So
Speaker 1: I'm guessing he's thinking, Okay, we got the left tackle,
Speaker 1: now we got the center. I need somebody else to
Speaker 1: play guard. And that's why I think they made that move. Well,
Speaker 1: they could have had Johnny Manzel right and listen for
Speaker 1: this game. I think it's even more important. Which side
Speaker 1: is the most dangerous defensive lineman lining up four Rodgers? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and if he's wherever they put Bosa right Yeah. If so,
Speaker 1: if Bosa is gonna be on the on our right
Speaker 1: side and he's going to be the end, then I
Speaker 1: want my best matchup to be, uh, Martin versus Bosa.
Speaker 1: But Mickey's point has been, since we since it looks
Speaker 1: like Collins is out five games, it's an extended period.
Speaker 1: If it was one game, you would be in favor
Speaker 1: or not to put words in your mind, Martin's staying
Speaker 1: at right guard. But since it's five games, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: want to put out I don't you think you think?
Speaker 1: I mean, was Jerry Bluffin throwing him off guard or
Speaker 1: off tackle? Whatever you want to say? Uh, because I'm
Speaker 1: sure in McCarthy's thinking, there's no need to give him
Speaker 1: a scouting report on what we're doing, right, Uh. They
Speaker 1: don't need to know that. Um So anyway, that's I
Speaker 1: think that's WoT. It's good. But I think if they do,
Speaker 1: if they do what Nate suggested, I think that's probably
Speaker 1: the best thing. Give him help, let him settle down,
Speaker 1: get the speed of the game, and then let's go
Speaker 1: started fourteen games last year and it wasn't pretty a
Speaker 1: college free agent that he and he started every year
Speaker 1: he was at Texas Tech. He was four year starter
Speaker 1: at Texas Tech, and he probably made the biggest jump
Speaker 1: a guy can make from first year to second year.
Speaker 1: You know, he was one of the guys that won
Speaker 1: the offseason workout awards. Uh and yeah, this past offseason
Speaker 1: that he was in there, uh, ten guys he said
Speaker 1: he need to get stronger. Yes, he said, yeah. I
Speaker 1: think part of it too is there's a next man
Speaker 1: up mentality, of course, and they've spent the last six
Speaker 1: months with him training to be a tackle. The this
Speaker 1: scenario came up that he would be going in at
Speaker 1: right tackle if they if they're making that decision that
Speaker 1: he's the guy, and so let's see what he does.
Speaker 1: He's the next man up, and then if he struggles
Speaker 1: in the first quarter, then we go to plan B.
Speaker 1: The next next of McGovern moved Martin out. McGovern showed
Speaker 1: how well he can play against the number one defense
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Why not keep him in for consistency
Speaker 1: and let Zach do his thing. I'll tell you what,
Speaker 1: I went back and watched just kind of zeroed in
Speaker 1: on McGovern. He was pretty good. He as they isolated
Speaker 1: on him as well, and he was good. I got
Speaker 1: another question for you. Okay, let's okay, Let's say Lyle
Speaker 1: Collins was playing and Zach Martin is back. Who's the
Speaker 1: left guard? Oh it's still Williams. Yep, Yeah, because they
Speaker 1: liked But we're talking about Connor McGovern. So would he
Speaker 1: is he in a if if if all five are healthy,
Speaker 1: do we go back to Connor McGovern in Connor Williams?
Speaker 1: Are you know Connor Williams obviously as the four year
Speaker 1: starter there at left guard, but as Connor McGovern, did
Speaker 1: he play so well that he's now challenging for a
Speaker 1: starting spot on the other side? I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know if that's if that would take place, because
Speaker 1: because everybody tried to portray there was a competition going
Speaker 1: on in training and there wasn't never materialized. So but
Speaker 1: I think they have confidence now in McGovern. See, and
Speaker 1: that's what happened last year. I think they were late
Speaker 1: moving Martin out because I don't think they thought McGovern
Speaker 1: was ready to step in at guard, and so they waited, waited, wait,
Speaker 1: and they got towards the end of the season, it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: let's see. I think he's because remember he didn't play
Speaker 1: his rookie year, right, he had surgery on his um.
Speaker 1: On his body, he tore the chess muscle, the peck, yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think he hurt it twice, and then they
Speaker 1: finally had surgery and so and then he didn't have
Speaker 1: an offseason that next year. Right, there was no off season,
Speaker 1: no preseason, shortened training camp, so it took him a
Speaker 1: while to get back in. So I think when they
Speaker 1: had confidence that he could play right guard, that's why
Speaker 1: they moved Martin out. Now. The other point that I'm
Speaker 1: sure on their favor of staying with Steel out there
Speaker 1: is I'm sure before they moved Martin out there, they
Speaker 1: gave him some snaps at tackle. They didn't just show
Speaker 1: up on Wednesday and say, okay, practice three times, go
Speaker 1: out there. Well, that's what's going to happen this week, right,
Speaker 1: because he there's no preparation other than this week for
Speaker 1: that game. So maybe they needed more time to maybe
Speaker 1: adjust him out there. Dam you'll see, because as we know,
Speaker 1: you can't have a first round pick at every spot
Speaker 1: on the offensive line. At some point you can at
Speaker 1: the defensive line. Washington though, why not? But yeah, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: well you're already got to two of them both. Le
Speaker 1: Collins is sort of a first round pick, right uh.
Speaker 1: And so at some point you got to have your
Speaker 1: Mark two and A or your Nate Knewton come in
Speaker 1: that you didn't pay a whole lot to get. That
Speaker 1: develops into a future of free agency. Well yeah, damn
Speaker 1: free agent question. Bill. You mentioned plan B if something
Speaker 1: goes awry with Terrence Steele. Let's say that's plan B
Speaker 1: for now. Plan C is that tiniski? Or do you
Speaker 1: put in connomer government at right guard and move Zach
Speaker 1: Martin out to write tackle her lather the latter? Come on,
Speaker 1: No brainer, guys, No brainer. I don't think they would
Speaker 1: do it. You don't think so in mid game? You
Speaker 1: think it'd be in sky? Yeah? Yeah, otherwise why he
Speaker 1: shouldn't be on the roster? Well, no, no, what's he
Speaker 1: doing on the roster? Well, yeah, you got a lot
Speaker 1: of guys on the roster that they're not gonna give
Speaker 1: me plan time. Well, even if somebody else goes down,
Speaker 1: they look down the down the line, they're like, oh no, no,
Speaker 1: not yet, go down. That's how I first got to
Speaker 1: play in high school. They ran out of people. They said, okay,
Speaker 1: get it and how did that go? Not? Well, did
Speaker 1: you play? It didn't matter, really didn't matter. They put
Speaker 1: me in at guard. So we have another option here.
Speaker 1: We could play Mickey at God. You remind me of
Speaker 1: my guard in high school. I think his name was
Speaker 1: Scott Scooder or something. This guy, he was one hundred
Speaker 1: and sixty five pounds and we had him playing against
Speaker 1: billy Don Jackson from Sherman. Yeah, high school. Ye could
Speaker 1: you imagine that matchup? I play in Houston. Uh no,
Speaker 1: billy Don Jackson, he's a Sherman. Then he end up
Speaker 1: going Tola. I wasn't. That wasn't one hundred thirty pounds,
Speaker 1: soaking way. And you know what happened on the first play.
Speaker 1: It was the first play I ever played in high
Speaker 1: school because they didn't let me play when I was
Speaker 1: a freshman because they were afraid I'd get hurt. Right,
Speaker 1: But you're up to one hundred and thirty by yourself, Yes,
Speaker 1: you can put on some weight. The linebacker gets up
Speaker 1: over me and the first movie makes he kicks me
Speaker 1: in the spot. I don't gotta wait a minute. We
Speaker 1: didn't practice like that, Billy. When the craft on yourself
Speaker 1: and get down one thirty now, Vicky, he actually he
Speaker 1: did that. He said that a minute. I'm look at
Speaker 1: the referee like, hey, what's the deal? Right? So the
Speaker 1: next the next play, I was ready and he tried.
Speaker 1: He tried to do it again right. Well, he ended
Speaker 1: up being off sides, but I came up with my
Speaker 1: hands and I got his foot right. And then the
Speaker 1: third play, I had to pull and all I saw
Speaker 1: where red jerseys in front of me, and I just
Speaker 1: went down right. All I know is our running back
Speaker 1: ran down to the five yard line. Oh wow, right, wow,
Speaker 1: you're Jerry. I'm all fired up. Right. We got down
Speaker 1: to the goal light and he subs me out and
Speaker 1: then they scored. So but you got him in position. Man.
Speaker 1: We came back the next day film work, right, and
Speaker 1: I'm sitting in there they had filmed back then, uh
Speaker 1: projector yeah, absolutely what they were they were showing. They
Speaker 1: were showing the film and it looked like we were
Speaker 1: missing somebody on the office. They showed the play, right
Speaker 1: the coach. Coach saw that and he goes, oh my goodness,
Speaker 1: put through that black and my friends going tell them
Speaker 1: it would you said, nay? Insane? Yeah right, all right.
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Speaker 1: we might be able to stretch it out a little. Okay,
Speaker 1: Adia think all right? Do you want to talk about
Speaker 1: the kicker? Yeah? Why do you have kicking experience too?
Speaker 1: You have a kicking story, I mean another kicken story,
Speaker 1: and not the one where I learned I learned a
Speaker 1: deep snap. Okay, well a second, this could be your
Speaker 1: mix shot for today, right, yes, absolutely, all right here
Speaker 1: it is the mix shot of the day. You can do.
Speaker 1: That's amazing. Since since I was a man without a position,
Speaker 1: I worked with the kicker. I was the holder, So
Speaker 1: when he was practicing off on the side, I held
Speaker 1: for him, and so every once in a while you
Speaker 1: snuck a kick in snuck a snuck a deep snap
Speaker 1: in I learned a NOI okay, I am versatile just
Speaker 1: like business. Deep snapper is an art, that's right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's pretty good if you can do it, but unfortunately,
Speaker 1: after you snap it, you got a black and you
Speaker 1: have to be versatile in this business. That's right, which
Speaker 1: is why Danny Serek is headed to the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 1: What are you going to be doing there? Pretty much
Speaker 1: a lot of the same stuff I'm doing here. Should
Speaker 1: be versatile. People won't be nearly as cool as us. Man.
Speaker 1: I hope they're just a fraction of how cool y'all are.
Speaker 1: She's gonna be there, Casey Phillips, yea, in Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: kind you a little bit of everything, So I'm excited.
Speaker 1: It's been quite the whirlind very quick. So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: head out there and then I'll be back here January second.
Speaker 1: They're good for the Cardinals game, all right? I try
Speaker 1: you see there. The journalism school at Missouri trains oh Casey.
Speaker 1: Casey Phillips, who is Casey by the way, is basically
Speaker 1: has the same role that you will have with the
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. With the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and it has
Speaker 1: turned out great for her. And she worked her way
Speaker 1: up just like you were working your way up, where
Speaker 1: she worked at Disney, the Washington Wizards and then the
Speaker 1: Rams and then to Tampa Bay. And she's covering Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: I mean, she did an interview last week where it
Speaker 1: went viral where she's interviewing Brady Gronk and Lavante David altogether.
Speaker 1: The week of the season when they won the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: she hosted the boat parade, the ceremony and everything. So
Speaker 1: that's what if Cliff Kingsbarrett ready for your parade, Cliff
Speaker 1: Kingsbury can finally win something, then that could be in
Speaker 1: your future too. Actually, Everson will enjoy that conversation she
Speaker 1: had Tom Brady. Somehow they got on to defensive players
Speaker 1: getting penalized for you know, blatant hits or blindside hits,
Speaker 1: and Brady went on for three minutes talking about he
Speaker 1: goes it's a punishment that the defensive player shouldn't have
Speaker 1: to face that when that happens, it's the quarterback's fault
Speaker 1: because he's thrown a pass where he shouldn't be thrown
Speaker 1: and he's leading his guy right into that hit. But
Speaker 1: he went on forever on it, right, and it was
Speaker 1: it was a really insightful answer. And I've heard Tim
Speaker 1: Brown talk about that TOOI and Tim did some TV
Speaker 1: stuff with us right after he retired, and he was
Speaker 1: talking about how it's a responsibility of the receiver on
Speaker 1: a crossing route. You have to be aware of what's
Speaker 1: in front of you and you can't just be you
Speaker 1: know with your yeah, blindsighting like that, you know, And
Speaker 1: so it's a responsibility of the receiver. Well almost turns
Speaker 1: into because they know they're going to get the call.
Speaker 1: It's it's so the quarter pack. So it's almost like
Speaker 1: a flop thing, you know, you just go in there
Speaker 1: as if you have the intention why receiver wise, and
Speaker 1: they know that they're not going to catch it, they
Speaker 1: know they might get hit, so then they go limp,
Speaker 1: they faint and effort. Why the dB is just trying
Speaker 1: to make a play. Yeah, no, absolutely so. But anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was we sorry to see Danny go yes the way, bittersweet.
Speaker 1: I've loved working with you guys. Learned a lot, had
Speaker 1: a lot of fun, a lot of laughs. Go see
Speaker 1: another crazy good quarterback and another another quarterback from the area.
Speaker 1: Right right? Was he in high school? When you were
Speaker 1: there in high school? And you went to what high school?
Speaker 1: Plano Senior High Um, same district. This is not a
Speaker 1: good sign Yes, sign Dan make you luck, wouldn't you? Guys?
Speaker 1: Lucky man? Let's see it. Let's show it to the camera. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of signatures, a lot of signature. Do
Speaker 1: you think they're gonna be man if I hang this
Speaker 1: up at my desk out there, yeah yeah, I'm like, look,
Speaker 1: you want to go back there, you can go back there,
Speaker 1: but do not stay here. You gotta take that down.
Speaker 1: I feel I don't know, Henry, but I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm just the deliverer here. I don't know, I just
Speaker 1: delivered that. There's the people that have done some great
Speaker 1: stuff with that. Roxanne Medina, I really did a great
Speaker 1: job with it, but I just wanted to you'll be
Speaker 1: able to read it set later on, but yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not able to read it anytimes. Don't take this
Speaker 1: good stuff. Congratulations, guys. Way to go, all right, delivery
Speaker 1: man Nickie, he comes in, he lays the boom down,
Speaker 1: didn't he go ahead? But we never got to the kicker,
Speaker 1: did we? Okay, what do you want to say about
Speaker 1: you know what, I thought they should have done that
Speaker 1: from the beginning, because, thanks Nick, from a practice squad standpoint,
Speaker 1: what happens if the kicker. You know, this isn't like
Speaker 1: replacing Randy. We talked about this. You got to have
Speaker 1: somebody to replace them, So put that guy on there.
Speaker 1: Well have been the plan all along, like wait a
Speaker 1: week and get stick around back here, stick around and yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, and you know, and hey, he missed the
Speaker 1: thirty one yarder. Yeah he missed the extra points and
Speaker 1: I'm not I'll give him the sixty. But at least
Speaker 1: it was accurate. It just came up. Well, didn't Jerry
Speaker 1: Jones say today that apparently he's dealing with a quad injury. Yes,
Speaker 1: and then he's got he did the back surgery, but
Speaker 1: now there was a quad at some point in Trenning camp,
Speaker 1: which delayed how much he was doing. John Fossils swore
Speaker 1: when he did his press conference yesterday that it had
Speaker 1: nothing to do with his inactivity, but he went on
Speaker 1: and on and on and then he he he basically
Speaker 1: said he hit those first two kicks high, meaning it
Speaker 1: wasn't like he hit the top of the ball, but
Speaker 1: he didn't get underneath it to drive it. He hit
Speaker 1: the ball too high. So well, they said he was booming,
Speaker 1: and it was. I mean he was and so but again,
Speaker 1: you know, when you're not under the pressure, Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: not kicking into a line. Let's yeah, your projectory is
Speaker 1: a little bit. We're going to continue the conversation tomorrow. Here.
Speaker 1: We should probably say his name though, right, hallelujah, hallelujah,
Speaker 1: that's his name, Hawre, you go perfectly, Yes, all right,
Speaker 1: that does it for Mick shots Danny, great value of
Speaker 1: the sun, the very bright future for Danny's Surrey. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, and we'll talk at you tomorrow on Mick
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