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Speaker 1: Moe Monroe's wanted for the financial terrorist attack Black Monday.

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Speaker 2: Monday was my idea.

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Speaker 3: It's me.

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Speaker 2: It was Wall Street himself.

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Speaker 4: Moway's back baby.

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Speaker 3: Welcome donks. It is Monday, March sixteenth, twenty twenty, and yeah,

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Speaker 3: I guess it's time for Morning Combat. Hi. My name

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Speaker 3: is Luke Thomas. I am one of the hosts of

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Speaker 3: this program. I'm not sure where he's going to be

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Speaker 3: on your screen, but the other half of this duo

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Speaker 3: is Brian Campbell from CBS Sports and we both joining

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Speaker 3: up for what can only be described as a very

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Speaker 3: unusual edition of Morning Combat. Brian, I think that's a

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Speaker 3: fair way to put it.

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Speaker 2: That is a fair way to put it.

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Speaker 1: In full disclosure up front, Luke, this is my first

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Speaker 1: global pandemic, so I'm really.

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Speaker 2: Sort of touch and go, just trying to make it

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Speaker 1: And I think for this week's episode only, it's it's

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Speaker 1: you will. We're just gonna try to keep that train moving.

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Speaker 1: In the future, will make some adjustments in terms of

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Speaker 1: how to do this better from home, but for right now,

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Speaker 1: we just want to bring the combat to you inform

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Speaker 1: you entertain you, maybe give you a little break from

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Speaker 1: the uh from the norm. And by norm, Luke, I

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Speaker 1: mean buying up as money toothpaste containers and toilet paper

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Speaker 1: packages as possible.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm good on toilet paper. I don't have. I

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Speaker 3: probably for a couple of weeks. But I was thinking

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Speaker 3: about this, like, I haven't really noodled this through. I'm

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Speaker 3: supposed to get a haircut on Tuesday? Do I go?

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Speaker 3: Do I go?

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Speaker 2: Luke? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: You act like do I go when the people already

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Speaker 1: have seen behind the wall, they know that that eighty

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Speaker 2: In fact, no, no, no, no, no that much.

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Speaker 3: No no, no no, that lady moved, So now I

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Speaker 3: have to go. Not far from the house, It's just

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Speaker 3: a mile down the street. But can you say that

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Speaker 3: a haircut is essential in a global pandemic? I don't

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Speaker 1: But I think really what the people want to know

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Speaker 3: You know, what they better be doing a pandemic sale.

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Speaker 3: That's actually a great question. I don't know, I guess

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Speaker 3: into anything that's happened. I guess we'll figure out this.

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Speaker 3: Let's just start out here right where we'll talk about

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Speaker 3: the general social change that's really happening and forcing all

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Speaker 3: and the look ahead. First though, why don't we just

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Speaker 3: answer the question how are you doing? Why don't you

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Speaker 2: Bro?

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Speaker 3: I want you to the listeners basically, how you've been

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Speaker 2: It's touching. Go Luke. I'm gonna be honest with you.

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Speaker 1: I find Luke that if I've got a problem personally

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Speaker 3: I got a lot of balls.

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Speaker 1: That might be the only way to rake in the dough.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, both in good and bad ways.

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Speaker 3: Potentially that's right. Actually, yeah, it's not necessarily all bad,

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Speaker 2: Please, I want you to laugh, Luke. But he's become

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Speaker 1: And look, there's two extreme ends, you know, sort of

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Speaker 3: It's not about that, it was it is. Have you've

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Speaker 3: We're talking about the last he said, the second half

435
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Speaker 3: of the second part of March, like the last week.

436
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Speaker 3: So what his point was is like, yes, once that

437
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Speaker 3: effect takes in, I'll be in a much better spot.

438
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Speaker 3: But for the next ten days, it doesn't make any

439
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Speaker 3: difference whatsoever. And the earlier you can act, the better

440
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Speaker 3: I think that's the point I was simply trying to make.

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Speaker 2: And well, your.

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Speaker 1: Tweets have been in good faith, Luke, But at the

443
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Speaker 1: same time, I can't even begin to imagine what your

444
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Speaker 1: mentions look like.

445
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're a graveyard. They're a complete graveyard. I mean, look,

446
00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,879
Speaker 3: I'm not here. I'm not going to sit here. And

447
00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,480
Speaker 3: there's been people who have been accusing me of not

448
00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,000
Speaker 3: backing up my claims with evidence, and I put up

449
00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,000
Speaker 3: a thread to support all of them, and you can

450
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Speaker 3: draw whatever conclusion you want. I'm not mad at fans.

451
00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,800
Speaker 3: I'm really not. I'm not mad at fans for being disappointed.

452
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Speaker 3: It's what fans are going to do. Man going to

453
00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,280
Speaker 3: be disappointed, whether it's seniors who didn't get to play

454
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Speaker 3: in March madness. Can you imagine, you know, I saw

455
00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,280
Speaker 3: one guy for his school things the University of Pittsburgh

456
00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,639
Speaker 3: was seven points shy of setting the all time record

457
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Speaker 3: and he was a senior. Gone, it's just gone, dude.

458
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Speaker 3: You don't get You don't get that back to see.

459
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Speaker 3: Have a right to be disappointed, of course, And even

460
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Speaker 3: if you're just an average MMA fan, especially if you

461
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Speaker 3: bought tickets to two forty nine or to UFC London. Yeah,

462
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Speaker 3: of course you have every right to be disappointed, and

463
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Speaker 3: no one could say otherwise. All I'm pleading, this is

464
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Speaker 3: what I'm pleading at this point is I think, when

465
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Speaker 3: this is all over, and I hope I'm wrong, but

466
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Speaker 3: I think, when this is all over, and by the way,

467
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Speaker 3: CDC is saying at a bare minimum sports organization should

468
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Speaker 3: not plan for anything for eight weeks minimum eight weeks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think, by the way, just quickly, I

470
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Speaker 1: think two months is the right window as the maximum.

471
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Speaker 1: Maximum might be a bad word, but as the healthy

472
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Speaker 1: medium for everything. I think you have to prepare that

473
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Speaker 1: two months of your life is going to be sidetracked

474
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Speaker 1: and put on pause.

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Speaker 3: That's right. And all I want people to do is

476
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Speaker 3: just put that in their minds so like they're mad, like, oh,

477
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,359
Speaker 3: UFC London, are you happy it's not taking place? Well,

478
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Speaker 3: I'm not happy that we don't get to enjoy sports,

479
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,160
Speaker 3: if that's what you mean. But the thing I'm trying

480
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,120
Speaker 3: to point out is I think when this is all over,

481
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Speaker 3: and I'm being dead serious, dude, how many times you

482
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Speaker 3: can go through my track record, how many times have

483
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Speaker 3: I said I wanted to see him? Could be Tony.

484
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Speaker 3: I think it's honestly and the most important fight in

485
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Speaker 3: the history of the lightweight division arguably. I really believe that.

486
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Speaker 3: But I think when this is all over, that's going

487
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Speaker 3: to be the least of our concerns. I really fundamentally

488
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Speaker 3: believe that.

489
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Speaker 1: And so you don't need to witch hunt, webscream or

490
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Speaker 1: webscream your choice. Who put that DM question into Chuck

491
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Speaker 1: and I saying, will the corona end up being the

492
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Speaker 1: fifth times the charm to.

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Speaker 2: End that fight?

494
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Speaker 3: Yeah, something like that. It was what I wrote to

495
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Speaker 3: d C DC was like, you know, the fighters want it,

496
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Speaker 3: and the UFC is trying to give the fans what

497
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Speaker 3: they want. And it's like, well, all those seniors who

498
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 3: wanted to play in March Madness, they wanted it too,

499
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Speaker 3: And you can go to any sport they all want

500
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Speaker 3: to play. Some of these teams are in the playoff

501
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 3: hunt and they were hot and they wanted to go.

502
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Speaker 3: It's irrelevant. The question is not. It's never. It's never.

503
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Speaker 3: This is the thing I've been trying to hammer home.

504
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Speaker 3: It is not what I want and it's not what

505
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Speaker 3: you want, Brian. It is not what anybody wants to I.

506
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Speaker 1: Mean, I'm not you know, on a very micro level,

507
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm not excited about the next one to two

508
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Speaker 1: months potentially on a sports digital front. CBS Sports my

509
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,200
Speaker 1: day job to sort of fill content when there's nothing

510
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Speaker 1: to fill, Luke, it's gonna be roight.

511
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Speaker 3: How am I going to do fifteen hours of radio

512
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Speaker 3: a week? Not only when there's no MMA, there's no boxing, dude,

513
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,719
Speaker 3: there's no sports, Like, how am I going to do that? Like?

514
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Speaker 3: This isn't I mean, I haven't even wrapped my head

515
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 3: around that problem. But again, that's my problem. And the

516
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Speaker 3: point I'm trying to make is and I'll wrap up

517
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Speaker 3: on this and we'll talk about us supercilia, which is

518
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Speaker 3: I'm just trying to get folks to understand if you

519
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Speaker 3: want to tell me who you are as a person,

520
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Speaker 3: show me what kind of belief you have in terms

521
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Speaker 3: of what you think you owe to society and what

522
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:55,199
Speaker 3: kind of moral commitments you have to make to live

523
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Speaker 3: around other people. And if you don't really feel like

524
00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 3: you have to do that and you don't feel like

525
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 3: any of that matters, you know, that's psycho shit, to

526
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 3: be quite honest with you. So that's what I'm trying

527
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 3: to drive home let's worry about what we need to

528
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 3: do by listening to public health officials, by honoring the requests,

529
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Speaker 3: by taking care of each other. And then when this

530
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,879
Speaker 3: is over, let's regroup and let's fire up the fucking

531
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Speaker 3: chainsaw man, and let's have some goddamn fights.

532
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Speaker 2: That's my Let's have loaded fights every weekend and hopefully will.

533
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Speaker 3: No fuck, we'll help each other out.

534
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Speaker 1: I'm sure that you know this social distancing thing will

535
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Speaker 1: extend for a while.

536
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Speaker 2: Luke, you and I no future for tip to tip

537
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Speaker 2: and at any point circumstance.

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Speaker 1: All right, but hey, by the way, you know you

539
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 1: said I don't give you enough compliments in life.

540
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Speaker 2: You look very nicely.

541
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Speaker 1: Did you come from a job interview like you just

542
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 1: fresh out of college at an insurance company? Here?

543
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Speaker 3: No, fresh out of the shower really is the way

544
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 3: you're looking at it? So all right, man, well let's

545
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 3: get into this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

547
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 3: UFC Brazilia took place over the weekend. I thought it

548
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Speaker 3: was morally reprehensible that it did. We should also note

549
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 3: showtime aired on Friday a SALITAUP promotions card from somewhere

550
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Speaker 3: in Minnesota.

551
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Speaker 2: Minnesota on a name of a Native American reservation, that

552
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Speaker 2: I can't pronounce or remember at the moment, it was.

553
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Speaker 3: A surprising Yeah, here's what I'll say. I've been killing

554
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 3: UFC for trying to and then eventually airing a contest

555
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 3: without doing any kind of COVID nineteen testing, sleitap, you know,

556
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 3: promotions and that commission. That show should not have happened.

557
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,120
Speaker 3: It shouldn't have happened, and it's a responib so.

558
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Speaker 1: Fair enough in defense for a tiny bit of that

559
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Speaker 1: showbox card. The fighters were already in Minnesota. It was

560
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Speaker 1: sort of is what it was. I'm not saying it

561
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Speaker 1: should have gone on, but that's a little bit different

562
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Speaker 1: than some of the things we're seeing with the UFC,

563
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Speaker 1: not just hugely, of course, but now with the fact

564
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Speaker 1: that really, I mean, before we even talk about the

565
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Speaker 1: fights and Brazilia, how they went down, what that means

566
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 1: for the future, Luke, I really think the starting point

567
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 1: has to be the fact that every single sporting event

568
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Speaker 1: and organization is much.

569
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Speaker 2: Calling it quits.

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Speaker 1: We did see that showbox card in a tiny little

571
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Speaker 1: conference room in that hotel, that casino, in front of

572
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Speaker 1: a handful of people, but anywhere else in boxing they're

573
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Speaker 1: taking a time out for a while everywhere else in MMA,

574
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Speaker 1: even bellatour two forty one on set on Friday night,

575
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Speaker 1: Scott Koker in company decided not only to end that

576
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Speaker 1: card hours before, but pay the fighters, the cutman, the trainers,

577
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Speaker 1: all of that and just say, look, we were already

578
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: going on a two month break anyway, but we're certainly

579
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,360
Speaker 1: going to step aside right now. I think the biggest

580
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 1: story is the decision making process that's going on in

581
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Speaker 1: the back rooms of the UFC.

582
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Speaker 2: Dana White, the.

583
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Speaker 1: Parent company, endeavor Luke to not just in a way

584
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Speaker 1: act like all this scare doesn't matter, but act like

585
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,919
Speaker 1: nothing is going to get in the way of this

586
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 1: business train that's going to keep moving down the tracks,

587
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 1: even if we have to send out emails and draft

588
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 1: any available fighter who's willing to pick.

589
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Speaker 2: Up his gun and join this army in this war.

590
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Speaker 2: What are we fighting for here, Luke?

591
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Speaker 3: There are times, man, when I work in this business

592
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 3: and I know there's some folks being like, oh my god,

593
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 3: you're exaggerating. Fine, I'm exaggerating, fine, But then I'm wrong,

594
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 3: and you don't have to listen anything I'm saying. There

595
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 3: are times in this business where I feel I feel

596
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 3: morally compromised and co opted and just gross, and I

597
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 3: don't know if I want to do this for a living.

598
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 3: And on the UFC side, if it had just been

599
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,199
Speaker 3: this one, I still would have found it ridiculous and

600
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 3: bad faith and terrible. But I'd be like, all right, well,

601
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 3: am I really thinking that this one event is going

602
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 3: to be that bad? No, it's a bad precedent. But

603
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 3: if they had just relented to what essentially public health

604
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 3: officials and best practices were telling them, you could sort

605
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 3: of just you know, Grin and Barrett, I think, but

606
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 3: what really has stood out is not merely the defiance,

607
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 3: but what is backing that defiance and what it's backing

608
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Speaker 3: the defiance. From what I can tell, and I do

609
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Speaker 3: not know this, I can only read into it just

610
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 3: like you. He's had these two Sports Center interviews with

611
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Speaker 3: Michael Eves, who shout out to Michael Eaves, I hope

612
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 3: you're watching this. Boy. You have fallen down on the

613
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 3: job in a dramatic way. Should be ashamed of yourself.

614
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 2: Not falling down like Michael Douglas in that classic eighties.

615
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 3: Movie Not Like You off the ladder. Today.

616
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Speaker 2: I did take his fifteen foot fall off yeah.

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Speaker 4: No.

618
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Speaker 3: But here's why. It's not that the interviews are terrible.

619
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Speaker 3: But you have a guy who is coming on Sports

620
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Speaker 3: Center and Daniel White who is making a series of claims,

621
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Speaker 3: and there is no pushback on him of any kind

622
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 3: of meaningful variety whatsoever. And actually, Michael and I went

623
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 3: back and forth on Twitter. He's like, what else could

624
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 3: I have said here? Michael, here's what you could have said.

625
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 3: You could have said to him, are you doing any

626
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 3: COVID nineteen testing? Because before the interviews, cab MMA, which

627
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 3: is the organization of Brazila, does the essentially the sanctioning.

628
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 3: They had said we're not going to do any COVID

629
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Speaker 3: nineteen testing. That's not just the fighters. That's ESPN staff,

630
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 3: that's UFC STUF, that's facility staff, that's anybody in attendance anywhere.

631
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 3: God only knows what they have Forget about just the

632
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 3: close contact of it. That's not officiating, crude, nothing. And

633
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 3: if you're not going to say why you're doing it,

634
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 3: you should say why you're not doing it. By the way,

635
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 3: then he goes on to say we're working on a

636
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 3: plan with Nevada. It turns out Nevada doesn't want any

637
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 3: part of that, and then we'll see what happens in

638
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 3: the UK. At the time, for the first of those

639
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 3: two interviews, it was full steam ahead. It's like, dude,

640
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 3: how can you say this? How can you say how

641
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 3: can you say you're going to end Let's see, you're

642
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 3: going to fly people internationally all over the Earth. You're

643
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 3: going to have them go through customs where they're going

644
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 3: to be around other people who've been flying all over

645
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 3: the Earth. There's no way to really quarantine them. So

646
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 3: now they're going to go through major metropolitan cities. They're

647
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 3: going to deplete themselves to make weight by also being

648
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 3: around a bunch of other people who, even during the

649
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 3: course of fight week, have not been tested for any

650
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 3: of this. Then you're going to put them into a

651
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 3: fistfight where they're sharing bodily fluid and there's going to

652
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 3: be no attempt past the Brazil show. Let's put that

653
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 3: behind us. Past the Brazil show. There's gonna be no

654
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 3: attempt to or no real good faith attempt to do that.

655
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 3: And then Dana White says, well, we're gonna put them that,

656
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 3: We're gonna put the gun on them to test them

657
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 3: for fevers. Right, Well, here's what I learned about what

658
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,479
Speaker 3: they did in China. China did the same thing. Number one,

659
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 3: the fever guns are unreliable by themselves. Number two, even

660
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:21,959
Speaker 3: if you actually have the fever gun on someone. What

661
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 3: China did was they would test people if they went

662
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 3: to the bank, they would test people if they left

663
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 3: the building. They would test people they come in their

664
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 3: building in all different kinds of spots, and if you

665
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 3: tested positive with a high fever, they separated you. And

666
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 3: what they figured out was they would do a test

667
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 3: right there with a four hour turnover to see if

668
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 3: you had COVID nineteen and if you didn't, and if

669
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 3: you did, they didn't send you back home to be

670
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 3: quarantined at home, because then you just give it to

671
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 3: your family. They actually separated you and put you with

672
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 3: other people who then have COVID nineteen so that there

673
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 3: could be this healing process together. In other words, there's

674
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 3: a bunch of steps that have to happen. Meanwhile, you

675
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 3: can only do that if you already have a quarantine happening.

676
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 3: There's no quarantine in the UK as of now, there's

677
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 3: no quarantine in the US as of now. You have

678
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 3: all these steps that have to be in place to

679
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 3: guarantee safety, and then you're saying we're gonna have two

680
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 3: healthy athletes. Dude, Dana White, you literally don't know that

681
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 3: that is true. You literally don't know that. You're not

682
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 3: taking any steps meaningfully to get there.

683
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 2: There's so many layers to this.

684
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: It's like, Look, if fans were still allowed to be

685
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: in buildings in London next week, which they're not, which

686
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: is why that card has to move again, you can

687
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: still make an argument, why are they going there?

688
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 2: Why take that chance?

689
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: If fights were allowed to be moved from the Fight

690
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: Night card in Portland, the Fight Night in that card

691
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: in Columbus to the Ufcapex Center, which was the original plan,

692
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: you could say, okay, again, it's dangerous. But fighters want

693
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 1: to do this, and by the way, that has been

694
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: Dana White's biggest defense is, Look, the fighters want to

695
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: do this, and all of us who have sense can

696
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: see through that.

697
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 2: The fighters want to get paid. That's what they want

698
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 2: to do.

699
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: But Luke, we have a scenario in which you have

700
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: see London next week, can't be in London. Leon Edwards

701
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: has refused to travel, and when I say refuse to travel,

702
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: I don't mean to put any shade on him. I mean,

703
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: they told him, you're gonna have to get up early

704
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: this morning, get on the flight to the US.

705
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 2: You don't know what city or venue your fight may

706
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 2: be in against Tyra Woodley.

707
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: And you don't know if you're gonna be allowed to

708
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: fly back home. Yet you have a family back there

709
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: in a life And he said no.

710
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 2: And still Dana White and company are like, this ain't

711
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 2: gonna stop us.

712
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: We're gon but yeah, I'm doing a sort of country

713
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: redneck accent, not.

714
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 3: Not a little foghorn leghorn there.

715
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit of this ain't gonna stop us.

716
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: But really he's saying, look, we're gonna find a way.

717
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: It's not heroic, obviously. I mean I don't I don't

718
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: feel that. I don't really understand how you could be

719
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: on the other side and say what Dana is doing

720
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: is right. So with that established, Luke, rather than just

721
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: be like going in circles for five minutes talking about

722
00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: how just absurd this is why, Luke, why is Dana

723
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: White really doing this?

724
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 2: Because he has the sort of one dimensional intentionality of

725
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 2: almost like a drug addict. I'm being honest of almost

726
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 2: somebody who's like, no matter what I'm gonna get to

727
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 2: that drug. We're gonna put on these shows no matter what.

728
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 2: It's not heroic, it's not patriotic. It's crazy. Is it

729
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 2: the debt that Endeavor in UFC has taken on to

730
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 2: make this deal happen.

731
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like going on here. They just paid out

732
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 3: a three hundred million dollars dividend to some of their

733
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 3: celebrity investors, also to themselves. Dana White got a portion

734
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 3: of that, as did our Emmanuel and some others, which

735
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 3: is their right to do. But it's like, if you're

736
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 3: gonna do that, and then you have to keep up

737
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 3: these shows because again we're theorizing here. We have no

738
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 3: idea if this is true. But like, is the UFC

739
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 3: broke or the UFC's that broke, because we know they

740
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 3: make money, But is Endeavor broke? Remember they had that

741
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 3: failed IPA. It's gonna a IPA.

742
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 2: It's actually give me in my body right now.

743
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, they had a failed IPO along with we Work

744
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 3: and others, and they've been trying to recoup some of

745
00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 3: the losses there. That's part of what that three hundred

746
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 3: million dollar dividend is supposed to help do. And you think, well,

747
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 3: maybe that's part of it. The other part is, you know, look,

748
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 3: I don't want to get political other than the cases

749
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 3: where we have to, but we might have to in

750
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 3: this more case, because he goes on Sports Center and says, well,

751
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 3: I talk to Trump and Vice President Mike Pence, and

752
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 3: they said, you know, be cautious, but live your life. Well,

753
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 3: I got news for you. These are two people who

754
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 3: are being pillar read by every public health official and

755
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 3: epidemiologist in every frankly informed and concerned party about what

756
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 3: best practices are. Nobody is recommending you fly across the country.

757
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 3: Nobody is recommending that you fly internationally, which, by the way,

758
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 3: people were doing when he was making that claim. Ashley

759
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 3: Evan Smith was in the airport. She flew to London

760
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 3: apparently for nothing. So you're making demonstrably false claims about

761
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 3: what public health best practices are. You're leaning on this

762
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 3: title of president and vice president, but the two men

763
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 3: in charge have not shown a great capacity to handle

764
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 3: the particulars of this challenge with a very, very wrong hand.

765
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 3: I realized that it's a active God moment. I don't

766
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 3: I don't blame Trump for for a situation that is

767
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 3: really very difficult for any president to get right, and

768
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 3: lord knows, maybe his predecessor would have fucked it up.

769
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 3: Too hard to say, but.

770
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 2: I don't blame Truck Trump for the failed affliction promotion either, Luke,

771
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 2: while we're.

772
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 3: On the record here, I'm just pointing out, like the

773
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 3: argument that he's done a bang up job about it

774
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 3: is just not for even today or yesterday. Rather giving

775
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 3: bad advice about we have the virus under control, know

776
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 3: you don't, eighty percent of intensive care beds are already

777
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 3: used up in New York City. If they have and

778
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 3: the search continues, it's going to be really bad in

779
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 3: New York City in other places as well. Seattle is

780
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 3: just like that too. So you know, Google has this.

781
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 3: Google has going to have a website that's going to

782
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 3: help us identify and track, you know, those who are affected. Meanwhile,

783
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 3: it's not even ready for rolling out, and it's just

784
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 3: for the Bay Area. It's like, it's like, what is

785
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 3: happening here? Anyway? So here's my point, and I'll throw

786
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:56,919
Speaker 3: it to you. I know I'm rambling here. My only

787
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 3: point is as a friend of Trump, and I'm just

788
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 3: trying I to ask this not as a partisan, even

789
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 3: though that there's no way to really separate the two.

790
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 3: But I'm trying to ask you, Brian, because we don't

791
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 3: always agree politically, is there a chance that he really

792
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 3: admires the president and believes what he wants to say

793
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 3: and is trying to like force that worldview on all

794
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 3: of us.

795
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: Look at first I saw at first, I thought it

796
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,280
Speaker 1: was almost a crusader thing. It was Dana's way of saying,

797
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: look like everyone else is folding up shop, you know,

798
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: NBA March madness, we will be the ones who is

799
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: who are there for you. It's, by the way, very

800
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: similar to what Vincient Man and WWE is doing right

801
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:38,439
Speaker 1: now at the same time.

802
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:39,919
Speaker 2: They're doing empty arena shows.

803
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: They just had a Friday Night SmackDown episode in their

804
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: Orlando training facility. They're going to do it again Monday

805
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: night on Raw. And look, the message that they really

806
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: hammered home in the beginning of that show was like, no.

807
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 2: Matter what rain or shine, WWE is here for you.

808
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 2: You know, We're here to entertain you.

809
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: And by the way, that Friday SmackDown show is just

810
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: weird and awkward in an empty warehouse, right, it just

811
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,280
Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense. I thought that was Dana's stance

812
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: to begin with, mixed with the sort of guile of

813
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 1: a smart businessman who says this, Luke, if everybody's stuck

814
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 1: at home and none of the traditional powers are playing NBA,

815
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: all that we could be the only game in town.

816
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 2: We could do record fricking numbers.

817
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: This will be the best thing that happens to us financially,

818
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: this will be the best thing.

819
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 2: That happens to our ESPN deal and all that. Now.

820
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: Look, A slight argument against that is, it's not nineteen

821
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: eighty eight anymore.

822
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 2: It's not even nineteen ninety eight.

823
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: Right Like, if anyone's thriving during this period where we're

824
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: all stuck at home sort of doing our own self quarantine,

825
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: I think it's more of like a Disney plus a Netflix.

826
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: We are overloaded with options from the idea of content

827
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: and streaming right now.

828
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 2: I don't think people are going out of their way

829
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 2: to be like, Hey, ain't UFC fight not Brazilia the

830
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 2: only lit of sporting event. Let's tune in yeah woo.

831
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: Now, So, because I don't believe that, I'm wondering if

832
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 1: it's something deeper, And I think people on Twitter that

833
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: have responded to that cry and been like, look, Endeavors

834
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: the parent company. They also own the PBR, the Professional

835
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: bull Riders Association, and that's the only other sport behind

836
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 1: UFC who is seemingly not adhering to the fear or

837
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: the guidelines or the reality.

838
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 2: Of what's going on.

839
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,439
Speaker 1: So if this is just a whole debt thing, Luke,

840
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 1: this is a sad reality. And I think a lot

841
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: of people on Twitter have sort of said, like, look,

842
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 1: if we go through two months and this all clears,

843
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: and yes, maybe there's realities of this. Scare people we

844
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: love die, like things, bad things happen, but on the

845
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 1: other end, there's potential for some good things will change

846
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: how we live our life. There's some people questioning will

847
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,439
Speaker 1: sports ever be the same? Luke, is there any fear

848
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: that MMA will never be the same because White is

849
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 1: so forcefully pushing this on us. It's not that I

850
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: don't want live sports during this dead time. Me the

851
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: journalists would love more than anything if Tyron Woodley, Colby

852
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: Covington fill the whole of UFC.

853
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 2: London and they do it.

854
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: I don't know wherever, in a warehouse somewhe, I don't

855
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: I don't care on a barge. If they did that,

856
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 1: of course as a viewer and fan, I'd be into it.

857
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: But the irresponsibility right now, mixed with the reality of

858
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: where we're at with UFC, no union, bad situations for

859
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: fighter pay. Now we've seen an email that Ariel Hawani

860
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: shared a ESPN that have been sent out to managers

861
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 1: just basically like hopelessly looking for any available fighter between

862
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,439
Speaker 1: bantam Waight and Welterwaite in the company you're not.

863
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 2: Who can fill out an undercard.

864
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 1: Look, this is like a mouth dripping with saliva, sort

865
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: of like I mentioned, sort of like a drug addict

866
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: going after it. This is beyond dangerous. This is almost

867
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: like sick. At this level, it's exploitative. I don't care

868
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: where you stand politically, I don't care about any of that.

869
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 1: How these fighters are being treated, you're almost you're preying

870
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: on the fact that. Look, let's be honest, fighters in

871
00:38:54,800 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, professional fighters are already not adhering to any

872
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: level of personal safety comparative to regular life. Right for

873
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: a living, They're going in there and letting their brains

874
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 1: getting rattled.

875
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:08,240
Speaker 2: We already deal.

876
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: With that morality as journalists, but they're dealing with that

877
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: physical reality. It's not surprising that under this guise of

878
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: what's happening socially right now, that they would be the

879
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: first ones to be like, I don't care, I'll fight.

880
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: Let's do this, even separate from that financial thing, the

881
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: exploitive nature of that, Luke, you were the one who

882
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: tweeted it multiple times.

883
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 2: This was the NBA or the MLB or the NFL.

884
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 2: They have unions, So, Luke, is the time now for

885
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 2: all fighters to join arms and be like, look, this

886
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 2: shit's crazy. We're the only ones still flying.

887
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 1: We're the only ones still put in our lives, our

888
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,479
Speaker 1: and our sweat and our blood on the line during

889
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 1: coronavirus pandemic season.

890
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,439
Speaker 2: Maybe it's time we join arms for the first time.

891
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 2: We don't need to be on revenue, by the way,

892
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 2: or GSP, but maybe it's time we join arms and

893
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 2: be like, enough of this, bs, We take a stand

894
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 2: right now and we we actually joined forces as fighters

895
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 2: and stand up for our future a better time.

896
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 3: Look, yeah, this is not a great time for it.

897
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 3: Actually it's quite the opposite. So first of all, let

898
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 3: me say a few things. One I'll give any promoter

899
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 3: through the weekend, excuse me, any television entity through the

900
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 3: weekend a bit of a mulligan right about being a

901
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 3: part of this. But any television entity in any place

902
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 3: that's either benefected negatively or you know, it's growing, or

903
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 3: the government is beginning to really hammer down and control

904
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 3: the population for for public health reasons. If all ESPN

905
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 3: ever does through these Michael Eves interviews on Sports Center

906
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 3: and no one in the company saying anything about it,

907
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,760
Speaker 3: and this march of insanity continues, it'll be a lasting

908
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 3: moral stain on that company, right on ESPN, and they

909
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 3: should know that and have a look in themselves in

910
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 3: the mirror about it. Number one, you know. Number two, No,

911
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 3: I don't actually think that this is a good time

912
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 3: for it. I mean, in your mind, it might tell

913
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 3: you that though I saw when that news went out

914
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,760
Speaker 3: that managers were being asked to have anything. First of all,

915
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 3: it's kind of hilarious that the UFC, who has been

916
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 3: criticized for sort of like anonymizing their content, right where,

917
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 3: let's just put as many shows out as possible with

918
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 3: names you don't recognize unless you're a hardcore and we'll

919
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 3: do it as often as we can. And you know,

920
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 3: now they're willing to just have any kind of a show.

921
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 3: It appears with anyone. They can book in any place

922
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 3: that's opened. This, this anonymized buffet food version of content

923
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 3: is truly reaching the endgame. I think on top of that,

924
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 3: I would say, relative to the concern you had raised

925
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 3: the fighters, I saw on social media there was a

926
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 3: lot of them speaking up like I'll go do it,

927
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 3: and you want to get mad at the fighter and

928
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 3: said to yourself, what the fuck are you talking about? Like,

929
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 3: we all have a responsibility to be you know, we

930
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 3: are in this together, we have a shared fate together.

931
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 3: But the reality is they're grossly under paid. They're used

932
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 3: to being treated like commodities, and this is utterly commodification

933
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 3: of who they are. And you win bonus points with

934
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 3: the company by stepping up on short notice.

935
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,280
Speaker 1: They're just doing on that right, bring on the idea

936
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: that all company men bear arms and come join us.

937
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 3: But the point being is that's effective to them, and

938
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 3: that's effective to fighters because they need that, and so

939
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 3: they can't even think past two months because they may

940
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 3: not have the financial resources to think past two months.

941
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 3: So as gross as it is to watch, you just

942
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 3: kind of say to yourself, well, you know, it's also true, Brian,

943
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 3: we should admit this. We are extremely, extremely fortunate that

944
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 3: Showtime is as committed to the show as they are,

945
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 3: that we have the resources to do the show like

946
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 3: we do. I have a nice camera, this is a

947
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 3: nice microphone. You got a hold. Nice set up there, dude,

948
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 3: We're lucky. Not everybody has this, and that should factor

949
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 3: into our analysis as well. Just the same Daniel gets

950
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 3: up there and tweets. You know, isn't it great that

951
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 3: the company is going out there and giving the fighters

952
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 3: what they want because the fighters want to do it,

953
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 3: and the fans want to see it, and it's like

954
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 3: Daniel and I wrote this to them. Part of the

955
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 3: reason why the fighters want to do this is because

956
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 3: financial destitution is a real problem for them. Number one.

957
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 3: Number two, you have noted previously when you had told

958
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 3: the story that they had sent you an anonymous or

959
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 3: you know, unsolicited check during a hard time in your life,

960
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 3: which I take seriously. That's a real thing. I'm sure

961
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 3: it made a big difference for him and his family,

962
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,240
Speaker 3: but you had noted their generosity. Well, if they're generous,

963
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 3: this is a much better time to show us that

964
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 3: rather than putting the public at risk by having them

965
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 3: go around and do these shows, by putting these fighters

966
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 3: at risk, UFC staff at risk, you know, officiating people

967
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 3: at risk, ESPN staff at risk, all of it, and

968
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 3: then spreading the disease to say we have no role

969
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 3: right as if we are apart from the world, we

970
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 3: have no role in maintaining public health. It is egregious,

971
00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 3: it is outrageous, and I would like to say tell

972
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 3: you I can't believe we're doing it. But here's what

973
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 3: I'll say. Oh, Brian, this is a time when people

974
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 3: are telling you who they are. You know, do you

975
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 3: believe as a society we are in this together, that

976
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 3: we have a shared outcome, a shared fate or do

977
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 3: you not believe that? Do you believe that you have

978
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 3: a responsibility to people, or do you just fundamentally not

979
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 3: believe that. Again, we can quibble with the lines of

980
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 3: what that might be, but to just blatantly, I mean, dude,

981
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 3: they're they're on the run from the government, Like everywhere

982
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 3: they try to go, it's shutting them down to the

983
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 3: point where they're like, you know this, Brian, it feels

984
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 3: like we're back in nineteen ninety four, or they're just

985
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 3: trying to find a place to park the boat because

986
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 3: the waters have been chopping everywhere else. How did we

987
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 3: get here?

988
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 2: I got a couple key questions or points to make

989
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 2: on this.

990
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 1: There's no better time to really talk about the fact

991
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 1: of why we don't have a union, why this is

992
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: actually happening.

993
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 2: But look, it's been brilliant.

994
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: It's really been brilliant, not just from the beginn when

995
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: they resuscitated this company and always make the brand of

996
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 1: the company more important than the fighter.

997
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 2: But I feel like in UFC, there's the have and

998
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 2: the have nots.

999
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 1: Right, there's the underpaid piot fighters who will give everything

1000
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,240
Speaker 1: it takes to climb that ladder and have a chance

1001
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 1: to win a championship. And then there's the elite haves,

1002
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: the champions, the guys who sell, the guys who were

1003
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: former champions who are finally in that upper tax bracket.

1004
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 2: They have made it where the upper tax bracket guys.

1005
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: Finally, after years of blood and sweat, are getting real

1006
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: money to make up for all those years when they're

1007
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,439
Speaker 1: taking home twenty thousand to show, twenty thousand to win,

1008
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: and yet, like Yoana to a degree, just emptying their

1009
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: future of their life in the middle of the cage.

1010
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: Those guys, of course, aren't going to fight for equal

1011
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: pay and for equal rights because they finally made it. Unfortunately,

1012
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 1: those guys are the ones who have the power to

1013
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: make a change so as things are structured now, Luke,

1014
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: if you can't make a change during something like this,

1015
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: if you can, as fighters band together and be like, no,

1016
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: this moment is too far, you never will.

1017
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 3: I stud It's not that I disagree. It's not that

1018
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 3: I disagree. I'm just saying you talk about how some

1019
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 3: of the other ones that have and there's have nots

1020
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 3: sort of did. You can't tell me that Connor McGregor

1021
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 3: has been fairly compensated. You can tell me he's been

1022
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 3: You can tell me he's made a lot of money.

1023
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 3: Can you tell me he's gotten everything he's earned. I

1024
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 3: don't believe that. I don't believe that even a little bit.

1025
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 3: Can you tell me John Jones got what they got?

1026
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 3: I mean, dude, look at the numbers and people like,

1027
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 3: how do you know these numbers? They've got them from

1028
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 3: court documents that the UC was required by law to

1029
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 3: release them. By the way, the more the UFC releases

1030
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 3: the numbers, the more it makes them look good. Pay

1031
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 3: is actually not going up. It's actually relatively declined year

1032
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 3: over year in the last two years anyway, of which

1033
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 3: they have the numbers. And then and then more to

1034
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 3: the point, you're talking about one hundred and fifty dollars

1035
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,760
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty dollars one hundred fifty million in payouts,

1036
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 3: which is if you count Usada, which they do, is

1037
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 3: around nineteen twenty percent. Dude, Yes, of course, the Angela

1038
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 3: Hills are not making enough. The James Vicks are not

1039
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 3: making enough. The Tom Lawlers, of course he doesn't work

1040
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 3: for UFC, but you know, those types of fighters were very,

1041
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 3: very good, but are all kind of on the come

1042
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 3: up as celebrities. No, they don't make enough money. But

1043
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 3: at the same time, it's the top earners who also

1044
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 3: don't make nearly what they're supposed to be making. So

1045
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 3: I hear what you don't want to risk at.

1046
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 2: All, Luke.

1047
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: They don't want to risk what they finally have achieved

1048
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: by rocking the boat, right. They don't want to become

1049
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: like Randy Couture level where the companies just like, get

1050
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 1: the hell out of here.

1051
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 3: So let's let's do this a little bit. Do you

1052
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 3: think the UFC London zombie card ever happens wherever the

1053
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 3: hell it's going to happen.

1054
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: I don't know what Dana White, and I'm saying this

1055
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: from the standpoint if he does have presidential connections, I

1056
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,399
Speaker 1: don't know what he's going to be able to pull off. Luke,

1057
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: I've seen many in egregious sin happen on a Native

1058
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: American ground.

1059
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 3: To be really honest with you, if they go back,

1060
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,280
Speaker 3: if they go back to Native American territory.

1061
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: Look, Tommy Morrison with the HIV virus had a m

1062
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: M A fight that one time under like half.

1063
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 3: In West Virginia.

1064
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 2: In West Virginia, it was like a no, it was

1065
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 2: like a New Mexico Native American ground And at the

1066
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 2: last minute he fought the next boxer and they changed

1067
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 2: fought and m MEGA they changed the rules so the.

1068
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 1: MME guy couldn't take him down. Like it was just

1069
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:30,399
Speaker 1: absolute train wreck.

1070
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 2: BS. Is that?

1071
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 3: I mean?

1072
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 2: Look, is there a is there a state equivalent to that? Is?

1073
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: Will the state of Wyoming or South Dakota, who has

1074
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: no play in major American sports gonna go like, you

1075
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: know what, we got nothing to lose here. You want

1076
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 1: to bring habib Tony to Cheyenne, Washington, let's do it.

1077
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 2: I don't know that that's possible.

1078
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 3: Look Wyoming, I say, Washington.

1079
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 2: See yeah, yeah, all right, dude.

1080
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 3: But even bare knuckle FC called it a day. You know,

1081
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 3: it's like, it's unbelievable where we've ended up here on

1082
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 3: this one. So also I'll say, here's my formal bet.

1083
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 3: My formal bet is, no, it doesn't happen, because there's

1084
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 3: going to be travel restrictions, even if there are a

1085
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 3: bunch of destitute fighters willing to, you know, just do

1086
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 3: the company a solid, which is essentially like how the

1087
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,879
Speaker 3: business runs at this point. Even if even with that

1088
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 3: there will And by the way, it is alarming to

1089
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 3: me that the only changes the UFC are willing to

1090
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,879
Speaker 3: make are the ones the government mandates. But my point

1091
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 3: ultimately is that there's going to be enough mandates, either

1092
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 3: federally or locally or state by state that is going

1093
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 3: to limit their possibilities for the foreseeable future. So no,

1094
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 3: I don't think it happens.

1095
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: I just feel like they're abusing this whole statement of

1096
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: don't panic, stay cautious.

1097
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 2: They're leaning on the don't panic side, but let's not

1098
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 2: forget what the cautious.

1099
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: Don't panic means, don't read Twitter twenty four hours a

1100
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: day and put tinfoil of your windows and buy all

1101
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 1: the hand sanitizer in the next three counties.

1102
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 2: That's what don't panic means. There's a difference.

1103
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,879
Speaker 1: Between that and just staying cautious and maybe not going

1104
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 1: out all day.

1105
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 2: Look. I took the family hiking yesterday. It was beautiful,

1106
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 2: it was wonderful. All right.

1107
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: We stopped at the grocery store. I washed my hands

1108
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: right afterwards. I stayed cautious. I didn't panic. That's what

1109
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,879
Speaker 1: we're talking about. Not this to close on this topic though,

1110
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: before we can get into maybe some actual fights in

1111
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: what happened, I do feel bad for my media brother

1112
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: and at ESPN, and I'm introduced to see how it

1113
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: plays out in the next few days.

1114
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 2: So what do I mean by that?

1115
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 3: What do you think they've been muzzled?

1116
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 2: Yes, we haven't seen.

1117
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:38,439
Speaker 1: A word negative from the many personalities ESPN, who many

1118
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 1: of them.

1119
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 2: We know and love.

1120
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 1: And I mean I've worked there for twelve years. I

1121
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: love me some bread O Komotive for example. To be

1122
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 1: honest with you, we haven't seen a negative word out

1123
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: of them. But I think the real test, Luke will

1124
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: come from the first take style programming. Will we see

1125
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 1: as Stephen A. Smith straight up be like, look, the

1126
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 1: only sport we got on the docket this week is

1127
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 1: UFC London. If they can find some somewhere out west

1128
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: in an open area where they can put up a cage,

1129
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 1: maybe this isn't the right thing. If they're willing to

1130
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: go down that road and actually hit their partner hard,

1131
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 1: then they'll show you a backbone, they'll show you some credibility,

1132
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: they'll show you some integrity. If it'll be very interesting

1133
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 1: to see if all parties, every journalist at ESPN, not

1134
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: just our MMA folks, if they end up being muzzled

1135
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: through this entire process loop, that'll smell awful. And if

1136
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 1: that's the case, look, if CBS wanted to go forward

1137
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: with the NCAA tournament and everybody's telling them to stop,

1138
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: and they're telling me you can't talk about it, I'm

1139
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: in a rough spot right right.

1140
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 3: It's gonna be as I mentioned, if they continue this,

1141
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 3: it'll be a moral stain on ESPN and you'll have

1142
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 3: to really look at what they're doing. I'll give everyone

1143
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 3: a mulligan, I'll wipe this light clean from the weekend

1144
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 3: and say it was totally inadvisable and should not have happened. Okay,

1145
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 3: let's not do it again. And if they continue to

1146
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 3: try and not do anything about it other than just

1147
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 3: to massage the back of their broadcast partner, you have

1148
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 3: to really look at what they're doing and say to yourself,

1149
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:02,760
Speaker 3: is this a news organization, because probably at that point

1150
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 3: it is not.

1151
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 2: And by the way, there's no glass houses here.

1152
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 1: People have come at us for having that tip to

1153
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 1: tip poster over my shoulder.

1154
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 3: Luke.

1155
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 2: All right, all.

1156
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 3: Right, fair enough, we're not talking about the Brazilia card

1157
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 3: at all.

1158
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was probably within the first three hours of

1159
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 2: this episode. We should probably talk about actual sports that

1160
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 2: went down.

1161
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 3: Luke, So I'll say this, Let's talk about the main event,

1162
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 3: Kevin Lee versus Charles Lavera, Kevin Lee ultimately losing by submission.

1163
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 3: I think in the third round Charles and Lavera literally

1164
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,359
Speaker 3: had a shoulder injury. The whole time, people are holding

1165
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 3: our feet to the fire about this Brian, which is

1166
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 3: that you know, both of us had said, you know,

1167
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 3: Kevin Lee, we had a lot of belief. It has

1168
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 3: championship material. You didn't see a lot of it in

1169
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 3: this particular fight. Here's what stood up to me, Brian.

1170
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 3: I wonder about you, and I was watching one thing.

1171
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 3: As you know, I'm sort of obsessed with the details

1172
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 3: about fighting. It's why I do dissected and you know

1173
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,479
Speaker 3: I pick up on certain things, I miss others, right,

1174
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 3: I do the best that I can. But one thing

1175
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 3: I've really noticed, and as a boxing fan, I'm wondering,

1176
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 3: and I suspect you've noticed this as well. A jab

1177
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 3: does it have exactly the same value in MMA as

1178
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 3: it does in boxing, Which isn't to say doesn't have

1179
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 3: less or more. It just has a lot of different function.

1180
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,240
Speaker 3: But one thing I've noticed is you just don't see

1181
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 3: a lot of the jab. You see a little bit

1182
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 3: of it. You see a lot of crosses, a lot

1183
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 3: of hooks, a lot of overhands, a lot of combinations

1184
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 3: with the kicking. That doesn't the jab does not prominently

1185
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 3: feature in a lot of fighters repertoires. That's not the

1186
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 3: case with Volkanovski, it's not the case with Holloway, it's

1187
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 3: not the case with a lot of good strikers. We

1188
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 3: could point to im I saying it's universal. Here's my point.

1189
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 3: I thought for sure Kevin Lee was going to work

1190
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 3: behind the jab to keep Olavera off of him, and

1191
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 3: he just didn't have one. There was no real jab

1192
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 3: that he could drive in someone's face. And before I

1193
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 3: throw it to you here, think of somebody in boxing

1194
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 3: right now that's got a really great job. A jab

1195
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 3: that blinds you, a jab that stings you, a jab

1196
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 3: that pops the head back, a jab where you could

1197
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 3: put other punches behind it. Think about how central that

1198
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 3: is to defining the way they fight. To me, yes,

1199
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 3: Kevin Lee had a messed up weight cut and he

1200
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 3: looked like he was gassing by the end of the

1201
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 3: second when he was going for the takedowns. I think

1202
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 3: I'll played a role in him ultimately losing. But to me,

1203
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 3: whatever the issue there was at this point in his career,

1204
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 3: how does he not have a jab? Which is that

1205
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 3: he has one? Does he not have that kind of

1206
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 3: a jab where he can really manage distance? He had

1207
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 3: I think a three or four inch reach advantage.

1208
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 2: Brian Campbell, Yeah, this is a great point by you.

1209
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: This has been sort of one skill that we've seen

1210
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:26,919
Speaker 1: certain guys master it and use it. I mean, look,

1211
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 1: the go to is George Saint Pierre in the cost

1212
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: check rematch where he basically broke his eye socket and

1213
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 1: Freddie Roach helped him use that as just a crippling

1214
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 1: weapon the whole fight. You don't see guys commit to it.

1215
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: Isn't a lack of proper boxing training coming in. Is

1216
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: it just something that is going to take more years

1217
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,479
Speaker 1: before it becomes a foundational thing. I'm not really sure,

1218
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: but you're right. I mean, look at Gannati Gloffkin. Statistically

1219
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,280
Speaker 1: he has the best job in boxing. It's a weapon.

1220
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 2: It sets up his right hand, the fact that he.

1221
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: I mean, look those two fights against Canelo, in which

1222
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,359
Speaker 1: I thought Gnatti Glove can win both of them very

1223
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,320
Speaker 1: highly contrab He won both in my eyes because of

1224
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: the jab. It's a foundational thing to keep guys in

1225
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 1: the area of the ring that you want.

1226
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 2: And you're right, Lee didn't go to that.

1227
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:12,839
Speaker 1: Lee just didn't look on at all in this fight. Now, look,

1228
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: he had moments I thought he won the first round.

1229
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 1: Neither of the three judges agreed.

1230
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 2: With me there. I thought he was taking way too

1231
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:22,240
Speaker 2: many clean shots. The missed weight. Luke was an obvious

1232
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:23,760
Speaker 2: sort of red flag.

1233
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 1: I'm fearful that it's a final red flag because as

1234
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: I sit here right now, I'm still willing to call

1235
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 1: him future UFC champion. Kevin Lee at twenty seven years old,

1236
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: You're crazy, BC, Yeah, Yeah, I'm crazy.

1237
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 2: There's some guys that just have nine lives zab Judah

1238
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 2: and boxing when he was thirty seven. I thought he

1239
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 2: could still make a run. We all have our our

1240
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 2: blind spots here.

1241
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 1: Kevin Lee could still turn this around if he had

1242
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 1: won this fight right that weight loss. Even Charles Lavera

1243
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: said it afterwards, the bad weight cut. He's like, look,

1244
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: I'm not going to hold this against Kevin Lee. And

1245
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: these are unprecedented circumstances we're going through.

1246
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 2: Kevin Lee traveled to Brazil. There's no crowd.

1247
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 1: Look, I thought the lack of the crowd would help him.

1248
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: He had moments where he was in that fight, landing

1249
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 1: big shots. He took too many clean shots in my opinion,

1250
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,959
Speaker 1: in return, looked a little bit flat, then got caught

1251
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 1: in the submission.

1252
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's the hole. Did he tap afterwards? Look? He

1253
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 2: tapped The fights over at that point.

1254
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look's not worth talking about that point.

1255
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,879
Speaker 1: I mean it happened, the fight's over. I got fears, Luke.

1256
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 1: I got fears for this guy. There's too much talent

1257
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: there not to put it together. And it's like, yes,

1258
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,839
Speaker 1: he has a history of bad weight cuts which has

1259
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 1: blown up his lightweight potential.

1260
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 2: I was shocked when he came back into the Gillestapie fight.

1261
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 1: I was shocked when he sent him to hell the

1262
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: way he did to sort of reappear in our minds

1263
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: as a future lightweight contender. Look, can he reimagine himself

1264
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 1: before we get into olivera at welterweight in the same way,

1265
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 1: maybe like a Michael Kasa just did and shows you,

1266
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 1: oh wow wow, Maybe he should have been here all along,

1267
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: because right now I don't think of Kevin Lee as

1268
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 1: a potential elite welterweight, but maybe it could surprise us

1269
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,080
Speaker 1: with the explosion, with the ability or do you I

1270
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 1: think there's still just foundational holes in his defense, in

1271
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,720
Speaker 1: his mindset that's preventing him from taking all that's inside

1272
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 1: of him and throwing it against the canvas there, Luke,

1273
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 1: and just becoming who he's supposed to be world.

1274
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean when he's on, he's on, and when

1275
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 3: he's not He's really not. He is just he shoots

1276
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 3: hot and cold. And so for me, the reasons behind

1277
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 3: that are one like on the striking department, just not

1278
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 3: having a jab when you have such a long reach,

1279
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 3: obviously drained by the way cut. Maybe that played a

1280
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 3: role in it. But the other part, to me, it's

1281
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 3: like he wasn't moving his feet a whole lot. Maybe

1282
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 3: that's why he was getting hit by Oliver because olivera

1283
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 3: I wasn't say it wasn't standing in front of him,

1284
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 3: but it wasn't like using evasive movement to really get

1285
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 3: out of the way, you know, the way that kind

1286
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 3: of an asania does you know, and everyone could be

1287
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 3: style bender, I understand, but just sort of borrowing some

1288
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 3: of the insights. There's just not that there. And it's like,

1289
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 3: I don't there's no athletic reason why that can't be

1290
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 3: the case. You're training with Baraza hobby, there's no technical

1291
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 3: reason why it can't be the case. There has to

1292
00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 3: be something else going on. I think those weight cuts

1293
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 3: are killing him. I think he's a tweeter. I think

1294
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 3: I think the lack of one sixty five is going

1295
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 3: to kill or badly affect Kevin Lee's career because he

1296
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 3: said it might be a couple of years where we

1297
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 3: see him again. Now how true that is? You know,

1298
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 3: we'll see You know a lot of fighters say a

1299
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 3: lot of negative things when they lose, and I'm sure

1300
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 3: this is a devastating for him.

1301
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 1: That's an alarm going off in my head when I

1302
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: hear a guy in his prime, yes with it, you know,

1303
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 1: alternating wins and losses to be like this one stung

1304
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: so bad that I might have to go away for

1305
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 1: a while.

1306
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 3: That's a yeah, yeah, So this is my point. It's

1307
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 3: like if there was if it was one fifty five,

1308
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 3: one sixty five, one seventy five, one eighty five, two

1309
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 3: oh five, if we had that, I honestly believe it.

1310
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:38,439
Speaker 3: I could be wrong about this. Maybe we're just Kevin

1311
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 3: Lee Homers and we just can't get out of our

1312
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 3: own way. But to me, the flashes of brilliance are

1313
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 3: not an accident. Nor are the flashes of just abject failure.

1314
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 3: Neither are accident. But to me, I attribute them to

1315
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 3: probably some technical growth he has to go through, no

1316
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 3: matter if it was the right way, class or not.

1317
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 3: But I just believe the lack of one sixty five

1318
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 3: is going to hurt his career very badly. He's a tweener.

1319
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 3: He's a tweener. He is the guy who is perfect

1320
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 3: for one sixty five, terrible for one fifty five and

1321
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 3: one seventy. It's just not quite right either given LS

1322
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 3: is up there. So those are the two issues for me.

1323
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 3: Now you mentioned Olvera, I go right back to you.

1324
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 3: He's a finisher, bro, He's a born finisher. And you

1325
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 3: know what, even with the injury, I thought he looked

1326
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 3: pretty good on the feet.

1327
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 2: He look great on the feet.

1328
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 1: I mean the tech, the technique was there, Looke. He

1329
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 1: always had the flashy submissions. He got the most submissions

1330
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 1: in UFC history, he's second and most finishes overall. Those

1331
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 1: are staggering statistics. Those aren't as staggering in the first

1332
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 1: five ten years of his career when he's alternating wins.

1333
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 2: And losses so consistently.

1334
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 1: The fact now that he uses his striking to set

1335
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 1: up the submissions.

1336
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 2: Outside of his shitty haircut, is it too late in

1337
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 2: the night? Canis too late? And the more can I

1338
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 2: say that out loud?

1339
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 3: Luke?

1340
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 1: Outside of that crappy haircut, he's evolving into an awesome

1341
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 1: fighter I do believe that there's a bit of fools

1342
00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 1: gold buried within the seven fight win streak. There's a

1343
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 1: reason why he hadn't been in the top ten until now.

1344
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 1: That we aren't really raising the Charles Olivera flag high

1345
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: right like Nick Lentz is fine, but there's a lot

1346
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 1: of Nick Lentz's on that streak for him.

1347
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 2: This is a wake up call against Kevin Lee.

1348
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 1: Kevin Lee, who, yes we're saying didn't look like the

1349
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 1: best version of him, but again had moments in there

1350
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 1: in which he landed some big shots against Olivera. His

1351
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 1: transition from striking to ground game his confidence even more. Luke,

1352
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 1: Sometimes a man just has to grow up and sort

1353
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: of figure this business in this sport out.

1354
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 2: He's at a scary point where he's.

1355
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 1: Not afraid of anybody, and he's unique enough with the

1356
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 1: flashy submission style yet well rounded enough Luke that I

1357
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 1: don't see major flaws there. I'm not saying in this

1358
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 1: historically deep lightweight division that he deserves or that he

1359
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 1: will end up in the title picture in one to

1360
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 1: two more fights, but you're gonna have a problem keeping

1361
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 1: him out of that title picture if he keeps getting

1362
01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 1: wins like this.

1363
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he What he showed me is remember the

1364
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 3: way we had framed it going into the fight, which

1365
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 3: was we're going to see which guy not their ceiling. Oh,

1366
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 3: you'll see some great things from them, We're going to

1367
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 3: see their floor. I think that Olavera is the one

1368
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 3: of the two that showed us he's really working on

1369
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 3: the problems he's had in his career. I still think,

1370
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 3: you know, he kind of is who he is to

1371
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 3: the point you're raising, but I think this is going

1372
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 3: to be the interesting spot for him. Now. He'll probably

1373
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 3: jump into the top ten rankings at lightweight, which is

1374
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 3: very hard to do, and that's impressive. Adding more to

1375
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 3: that depth, I don't think he'll ever be the best lightweight,

1376
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 3: but I'll say this, if the best lightweight isn't on

1377
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 3: their p's and q's on the right day, he will

1378
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 3: snatch that fucking neck of yours fast. He will snatch

1379
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 3: a back take quick. He will make sure that if

1380
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 3: you're better than him and you can prove it, you

1381
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 3: probably will. If you're better than him and you're slipping,

1382
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 3: he will win. And that always is going to make him.

1383
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 3: To me, if not the most dominant threat it's going

1384
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 3: to make him an interesting threat every time you see

1385
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 3: him on the fight card.

1386
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 1: Look, remember in college, in your extended friend circle. I

1387
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 1: mean you're a frat guy, which is honestly disappointing for me. Luke,

1388
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 1: I'm an ll all right, I don't believe in these

1389
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 1: organized white gangs that you rolled in playing.

1390
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 3: By the way, they weren't all white, all right, Well.

1391
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 2: Yeah whatever.

1392
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 1: There was always like a skinny guy in that group

1393
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 1: who just banged, he could get chicks, And you're like,

1394
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 1: not really that good looking, doesn't really have a demonstrable game,

1395
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 1: but he's a finisher.

1396
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 2: Bro, I mean, he finishes. This guy finishes.

1397
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 1: I'd like to know more about his personal life to

1398
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 1: see if he can carry that spirit and flare outside

1399
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 1: of it, to see if the chicks dig the platinum

1400
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 1: Gray Luke, I mean you're.

1401
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 2: Kind of pulling that off on you know, not on purpose.

1402
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 2: It's working out for you. We'll see what happens for

1403
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 2: your future.

1404
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 3: Look, that takes us to the comin event very quickly.

1405
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 1: Gilbert Burns no Big no Cell, Lou Big no Cell

1406
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 1: on the gray Hair.

1407
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 3: Becoming I think the second person to t Ko Demian

1408
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:01,440
Speaker 3: Maya inside the distance, winning matter of factly dropping him.

1409
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 3: Demian Maya said he thought he was fine, but the

1410
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 3: referee disagreed. Demian Maia didn't really protest too much. Gilbert Burns,

1411
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 3: we knew if it was jiu jitsu for jiu jitsu,

1412
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 3: maybe Demian Maya's a little bit better. But Gilbert Burns

1413
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 3: is a world champion black belt several times over himself,

1414
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 3: hardly some slouch and has good wrestling and dynamic athlete

1415
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 3: and has really worked on his hands. He to me

1416
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 3: is a pretty interesting threat at one to seventy, a

1417
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 3: title picture threat. You know, I don't really know. I

1418
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 3: don't think that's quite right. But like, what about jorgem

1419
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 3: Masbital versus Gilbert Burns. Maybe jorgem Masbital is better. I'm

1420
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 3: not saying that he's not, But can I consider that

1421
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 3: a runaway fight for Horae Masmital No, I don't actually

1422
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 3: think that I can so. And then the jiu jitsu

1423
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 3: prowess against a guy like Tyron Woodley or Leon Edwards

1424
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 3: or Colby Covington or kamor Usman. I mean again, maybe

1425
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 3: you think those guys beat him, but he's competitive everywhere

1426
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:54,439
Speaker 3: and has an ace in the hole better than all

1427
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 3: of those guys in terms of the jiu jitsu met

1428
01:03:57,240 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 3: he is a maturing, interesting talent at one hundred seventy pounds.

1429
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you see a guy that Look, we

1430
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 1: frame this fight on our various own platforms, when we

1431
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 1: previewed it as sort of a potential passing of the

1432
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 1: guard from one great jiu jitsu.

1433
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 2: Master to a new one. Not a new one, but

1434
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 2: you know, the guy of the moment in Brazil.

1435
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 1: And yet he comes out there and knocks him out

1436
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 1: with a perfect left hook and by the way, celebrated

1437
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 1: a bit too early.

1438
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:22,919
Speaker 2: That was almost leon Lett style there.

1439
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 1: Don b Beebe not in the house to make him pay,

1440
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 1: got on there quick with those hammer fists.

1441
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 2: He's an interesting out.

1442
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 1: I feel like Luca, I need to see one more

1443
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 1: in this division, one more big step up before I'm

1444
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 1: a full time Gilbert Burns believer. But this was certainly

1445
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 1: a wake up call that name. Give me a Stephen

1446
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 1: Thompson like opponent for him. You can do it on

1447
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 1: the level. Now you're at a four fight win streak,

1448
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 1: You're going to the next level.

1449
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 2: Then you become a title contender.

1450
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 3: In my mind, that's a great call. You're right, there's

1451
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 3: probably a little bit more proving ground about his ultimate versatility,

1452
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 3: right because on paper he's versatile when the rubber meets

1453
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 3: the road. What does that mean exactly? I like that.

1454
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 3: I think that's a fair point still way in which

1455
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 3: he has been performing since going to one hundred and

1456
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 3: seventy pounds, because he was killing himself to get to

1457
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 3: one fifty five for a time as well. I remember

1458
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 3: going against Dan Hooker. He's looked great and and has

1459
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 3: looked ready to go, and I've been really impressed by

1460
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 3: what he has shown and by the way, really worked

1461
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 3: on his English Prime. He's a good interview as well.

1462
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 3: Anyone else in that car. Do you want to shout out?

1463
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 2: I mean I could shout down Johnny Walker.

1464
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, he has not looked great, huh.

1465
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 1: I mean, look, this was a big moment to sort

1466
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 1: of put the train back on the track, show us

1467
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:33,959
Speaker 1: a little flat, a little less flash, and a lot

1468
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 1: more substance in Luke. Look, he had moments in this

1469
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 1: fight that he just couldn't capitalize on. I mean, you know,

1470
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 1: it's a nice little asterisk that this is the first

1471
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 1: time Nikita Kreelov goes the distance in a fight and

1472
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 1: wins by decision. But I felt I was just waiting

1473
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 1: during moments of that fight for Johnny Walker to including

1474
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 1: when he had full mount, to sort of take over

1475
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 1: and make that fight happen for him.

1476
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 2: And we're not in panic mode yet.

1477
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 1: It's two losses in the row and it surely ain't good,

1478
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 1: especially when two fights ago we're like, should we throw

1479
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 1: them to the lions? Should we put them in there

1480
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 1: with John Jones.

1481
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna panic yet, and you know that I

1482
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 2: like to clown on his clowningness.

1483
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 1: Overall, he's a more serious version of Michelle Padeda if

1484
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 1: you ask me.

1485
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 2: But Luke, at what point is he just a attraction?

1486
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 2: Three losses in a row?

1487
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 1: I mean he's got a new camp, new team, hopefully

1488
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 1: getting a little bit more serious. Is there a way

1489
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:31,919
Speaker 1: to shave down some of that excess yet still keep

1490
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:35,959
Speaker 1: that explosive, dynamic, crazy man striker who's gonna do weird

1491
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 1: things and come in there with weird hair without being

1492
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 1: exposed by solid, hard ass wrestlers every time he steps up.

1493
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:44,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, here here's his problem. Not every fighter

1494
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 3: is exactly this way, but he appears to be one

1495
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 3: of these fighters who really lives and dies on his

1496
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 3: own level of confidence. And you lose to Corey Anderson. Okay,

1497
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 3: you know it didn't go great. He made some changes,

1498
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:59,320
Speaker 3: went to TriStar as well, and then this time you

1499
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:01,760
Speaker 3: had a link theor fight, because remember the Cory Anderson

1500
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 3: fight was short that this fight went. Let's see what

1501
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 3: was the full length here? It was Johnny Walker. I

1502
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 3: mean he went to a decision, right, and he went

1503
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 3: around anyway, but to get through fifteen minutes and ultimate

1504
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 3: against a guy who in Nikita Krilov, who used to

1505
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 3: be a bit of a punchline. But it's certainly improved

1506
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 3: a lot since then, since his return to the UFC,

1507
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 3: But it's not exactly like any elite. He's not even

1508
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 3: a big version for that weight class, much less as

1509
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 3: super Elite one. And then to look as deficient overall,

1510
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 3: you partly think, yes, he got by with those quick

1511
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 3: stoppages early by a little bit of athletic luck. But

1512
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 3: also you have to wonder, while he's working on his game,

1513
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 3: even if they give him lesser competition, to what extent

1514
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 3: have these two losses impacted his ability to sort of

1515
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 3: be in the moment, feel rhythm, the whole nine yards,

1516
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:49,720
Speaker 3: because he really seems to thrive off of that. You

1517
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 3: take that away, he's got a bit of a problem.

1518
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 3: Let me say one last thing if I can on

1519
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 3: this car Demi and Maya saying his next fight is

1520
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 3: probably his last. He either wants Diego Sanchez or Donald Seroni.

1521
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:02,479
Speaker 3: I'm gonna vote in favor of Donald Serroni because Donald

1522
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 3: Soroni has been very good on the ground if he

1523
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 3: has enough time off from the Connor fight, so like

1524
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 3: you know, rehab again we went over. He fought five

1525
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 3: different elite lightweights in a single calendar less than a

1526
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 3: single calendar year Don Sarroni did. But if he wants

1527
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 3: to go back to one seventy, it's not hard on

1528
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:21,680
Speaker 3: him and he can do it. I actually think it's

1529
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 3: an interesting fight on the ground. I think Donald's got

1530
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 3: you know, SUPERB wrestling, and of course in the feat

1531
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 3: he's got the advantage against Diego Sanchez. I'm not saying

1532
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:33,679
Speaker 3: that's necessarily the best or the worst fight. Diego's scrappy

1533
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 3: on the ground. If you saw what he did as

1534
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 3: adecc against Borsola Garcia, you'd be impressed. But that was

1535
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 3: that version of Diego Sanchez, the one we have now

1536
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 3: under his new tutelage. I just don't know what we're

1537
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:46,439
Speaker 3: gonna get the next time he comes out. So I'm

1538
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 3: going to vote don SERRONI what do you say?

1539
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fine, that's fine. I don't want I don't

1540
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 1: want Diego Sanchez anymore. I don't want anything to do

1541
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 1: with it. So yeah, let's go Donald Soroni on that.

1542
01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 1: I don't want you to end this card without me

1543
01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:00,759
Speaker 1: bringing up the women's strawweight fight of of the moment.

1544
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 2: I'm there.

1545
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 1: I know it's you're supposed to say, key boss, but

1546
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 1: Amanda Reebis again look fantastic, Luke and taking that decision

1547
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 1: from random Marcos. Uh, I'm not gonna say short term,

1548
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 1: but medium term title contender.

1549
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, three thirty fives. She's athletic, she speaks English,

1550
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 3: she can strike, she can wrestle, she's got good jiu jitsu.

1551
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 3: She's the real deal Holy Field. Now how far will

1552
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 3: she go with it? Your guess is as good as

1553
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 3: mine in a division that that stacked. You're right, dude again, he.

1554
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 2: Bring it in close, sneaky hot to Lou.

1555
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 3: Okay, that's all that's all. You being super unprofessional. All right,

1556
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:43,559
Speaker 3: let's do this. We have got questions. Oh, I got two.

1557
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 1: Quick questions for you before we get the questions from

1558
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:48,800
Speaker 1: the dms from dons, Right, he'll be quick ten seconds

1559
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 1: you versus.

1560
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 2: Joshua josh Fabia in an MMA fight.

1561
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 1: If I gave you six months to get back into powerlifting,

1562
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 1: can you beat them in a three round fight?

1563
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 3: No? Con I'm not doing these dumb games. What's your

1564
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 3: other one?

1565
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:05,000
Speaker 2: All right? Would you rather get a hando from Rudy

1566
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:08,760
Speaker 2: Gobert right now or have to pull out Mike Beltran's

1567
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:11,760
Speaker 2: braids out from his shirt after the night and soak

1568
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 2: out the sweat.

1569
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 3: I'll take them, I'll take I'll take that beard. Believe

1570
01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:18,680
Speaker 3: it or not. Hey, I'm not a homosexual and be

1571
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:20,760
Speaker 3: Rudy Gobert has coronavirus.

1572
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 2: There you go? All right?

1573
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:25,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, let's get to dms from Donks. If

1574
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 3: Jay who wants to put up the graphics, he certainly

1575
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:32,680
Speaker 3: may at this point. Let's see. By the way, I

1576
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 3: love this one. Can you just do your job he's

1577
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 3: talking to me, and cover the fights and stop virtue

1578
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 3: signaling over the boomer plague hashtag. Just believe these people

1579
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:45,800
Speaker 3: don't know what virtue signaling actually means, by the way,

1580
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 3: but no, I cannot give the guy Brian callon. He's

1581
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 3: just the troll. He has no pictures. It's the troll,

1582
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 3: all right. Is there a way Brian Campbell to infect

1583
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:01,719
Speaker 3: Jay with coronavirus without infecting Luke and Bryan? The fans

1584
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 3: want to know.

1585
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 2: We will one day unleash the Jay on the people, Luke,

1586
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 2: I was actually I pitched it. No one got back

1587
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 2: to me, Luke.

1588
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 1: A lot of times when we have these corporate emails

1589
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 1: or text chains, I feel I put out either a

1590
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 1: fairly strong joke or a fairly strong ideal.

1591
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's an idea wrapped in a joke and I

1592
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:24,840
Speaker 2: get full no cell from you.

1593
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 1: I thought we would put Jay in that hazmat suit

1594
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 1: that Marty McFly were in back to the Future when

1595
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:32,760
Speaker 1: he pretended to be Darth Vader, you know what I'm

1596
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:35,800
Speaker 1: talking about, and have him show up on our show

1597
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 1: to speak so that people wouldn't see his face.

1598
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 2: But you know, we'd play up the whole Corona season.

1599
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe next time. All right? Just a thought. This

1600
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:49,639
Speaker 3: is from Jack Thompson, but with a bunch of numbers

1601
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:52,680
Speaker 3: in between just a thought. Would you say Kevin Lee

1602
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:55,479
Speaker 3: and Anthony Pettis have similarities in their careers by jumping

1603
01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:57,559
Speaker 3: around weight classes and beating good guys, but then fall

1604
01:11:57,600 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 3: when they could get to the next level. I'd say

1605
01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 3: a little bit of that. True. There's some similarity there, Brian.

1606
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 3: The difference is that Kevin Lee is still sort of

1607
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 3: kind of junior in his career to a degree. And

1608
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 3: part of what's happening with Anthony Pettis is he's just

1609
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 3: gotten and absorbed a ton of damage and so he

1610
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:15,040
Speaker 3: built up a name and you could take a fight

1611
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 3: here against WonderBoy that's great, and then Diaz and then lose,

1612
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 3: and you sort of keep jumping where the where this

1613
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 3: reinvention and use of your name is valuable. Do that.

1614
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 3: But that's not exactly the same as the woes that

1615
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 3: Kevin Lee is having, although I suppose you could say

1616
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:31,600
Speaker 3: that they are if you want to count what the

1617
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 3: weight cuts might be doing to him when he goes

1618
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 3: to one to fifty five.

1619
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kevin Lee never certainly had the high period that

1620
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 1: pet has had. But I think Kevin Lee doesn't rely

1621
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:45,760
Speaker 1: so strictly on athleticism and theatrics inside the cage, right,

1622
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 1: like the big moment, the big strike that Pettis does,

1623
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 1: and as Peedis started to age, deal with injury, deal

1624
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 1: with loss, He's become what he is now, which is

1625
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:58,439
Speaker 1: a celebrity action fighter, whereas Kevin Lee, I feel, has

1626
01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:00,800
Speaker 1: a much more well rounded game. I think we saw

1627
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:03,720
Speaker 1: some of those holes full blatantly, not just miss the

1628
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 1: way cut, not moving his head enough. But Luke, when

1629
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:10,640
Speaker 1: you combine the athleticism, toughness mindset with the wrestling and

1630
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:14,280
Speaker 1: the power of that overhand, right, he's a complete fighter,

1631
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:16,479
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, Look, the only thing these lacking

1632
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:18,680
Speaker 1: are the intangibles that you need to get to that

1633
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:19,400
Speaker 1: top level.

1634
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 2: I hope there's still time.

1635
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 1: Why do we feel like Kevin Lee has nudes on

1636
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:24,759
Speaker 1: us and we're there's a gun.

1637
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:26,800
Speaker 2: Holding against our head for us to keep mentioning that

1638
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:28,640
Speaker 2: he's gonna win a world title. Look, you and I

1639
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 2: don't typically fall for the same thing.

1640
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 1: I'm a tea guy, you're an a guy, right, We

1641
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:35,759
Speaker 1: don't typically get caught on the same thing.

1642
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 3: Luke, unless it's just the right woman. All right, from

1643
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 3: be back later. What are your top three essential items

1644
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 3: to have during a self quarantine?

1645
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:52,959
Speaker 2: Very expensive IPAs.

1646
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 3: Right, that's one. That's one one.

1647
01:13:57,439 --> 01:14:01,320
Speaker 2: Okay.

1648
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:05,720
Speaker 1: So here's the deal, Luke, I wasn't a movie guy until, like,

1649
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 1: you know, I used to be a movie guy. But

1650
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:09,719
Speaker 1: I wasn't a movie guy until I hit that streak

1651
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 1: in Vegas. As we've talked up, you know, the uncut

1652
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:15,439
Speaker 1: gems into nineteen seventeen. It's a parasite. I started to

1653
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 1: be like, oh my god, like it's real again. I

1654
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 1: have all these streaming apps like you do on your

1655
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:23,679
Speaker 1: TV that I typically don't watch for the movie side.

1656
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 2: Good God, I filled many a night lately, Luke. You

1657
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:27,719
Speaker 2: know on.

1658
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 3: Hulu, Dude, if you have a quiet if you have

1659
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 3: a quiet evening, you got five to fifteen bucks. You've

1660
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 3: got a nice TV. Nice TVs are as inexpensive as

1661
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 3: they've ever been. Iiz, it's still a first world luxury.

1662
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:43,800
Speaker 3: But still you can watch so many great movies in

1663
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 3: high def if you got it ultra high.

1664
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:46,559
Speaker 2: Dass the bucks, Luke.

1665
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 1: Just my Prime Membership alone, an app I never use,

1666
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 1: has a hell a lot of great.

1667
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 2: Movies on there. I got Netflix, I got the Showtime app.

1668
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:55,720
Speaker 2: I got a lot of crap. Then you mix that

1669
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:59,599
Speaker 2: with ww Network dezone UFC fight Pass.

1670
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 1: Look, I'm married, but I don't need to be. I

1671
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 1: go a long way with just me and my stream.

1672
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:07,519
Speaker 3: Luke, you know I saw this. Someone said this, like,

1673
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 3: if the UFC really wants to get right with fans

1674
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:13,719
Speaker 3: during this period, they should offer a reduced subscription price,

1675
01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 3: like as a sale right now, during this quarantining times,

1676
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 3: right where people are at home social distancing, make fight

1677
01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:24,320
Speaker 3: Pass a little bit cheaper to get sign ups. Actually,

1678
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:25,760
Speaker 3: it was kind of a brilliant idea. I don't know

1679
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 3: why they wouldn't do it. Oh, I know why this

1680
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:31,960
Speaker 3: comes to us from open Road, open mic. Luke, thanks

1681
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:33,439
Speaker 3: for being one of the few that's taking us as

1682
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 3: seriously as it should be. What will it take, Brian

1683
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 3: Campbell for the UFC to cancel carts like every other

1684
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:41,360
Speaker 3: sports league? This is extraordinarily stupid to keep trying to

1685
01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 3: keep it together.

1686
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 1: It would take government complete shutdown, which again, I feel

1687
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 1: like we're a couple of days away from people not

1688
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 1: being able to travel state to state and being forced

1689
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:51,839
Speaker 1: to stay.

1690
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:54,040
Speaker 2: Inside, not at gunpoint, but just forced to.

1691
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 1: Like, hey, every business is shutting down. That would stop it.

1692
01:15:57,439 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 1: So would an elite fighter company man coming down with

1693
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:03,679
Speaker 1: it and then passing it on to a PR person,

1694
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 1: a handler, or a social media person. If it breaks

1695
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:09,479
Speaker 1: out backstage at UFC, that's going to shut it down, right, Luke.

1696
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 2: Or they just replace those folks.

1697
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:13,680
Speaker 3: They might replace them. The other part is, dude, if

1698
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:17,799
Speaker 3: passed this prologue, they will only do what the government

1699
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 3: makes them. And again, the government might make them do

1700
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:23,760
Speaker 3: absolutely everything in terms of stopping but that's they don't.

1701
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:28,200
Speaker 3: They don't appear to be proactive in any capacity. Brian

1702
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 3: Campbell no handshakes during the coronavirus crisis. But what about

1703
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 3: tip to tip? Any thoughts from Ryan Berth.

1704
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:39,479
Speaker 2: That's, first of all, it's filthy and inappropriate. Second of all, no,

1705
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not going to exchange that type of

1706
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 2: stuff with you, fluids and stuff.

1707
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 3: No.

1708
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:46,680
Speaker 1: Look, the tip to tip season is effect Look in

1709
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:48,599
Speaker 1: some ways, Luke, it is effectively over.

1710
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 2: We've mentioned it multiple times. I've been very.

1711
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 1: Deep in the dictrade, like elbow deep, sort of accidentally

1712
01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 1: I'm pulling out, right.

1713
01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:56,920
Speaker 2: I mean, look, it's a good term to use in

1714
01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 2: this situation. I'm pulling out. I'm getting away from that.

1715
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:02,680
Speaker 2: I can't know. Look, I don't know when I'm gonna die, right,

1716
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:04,479
Speaker 2: I hope it's at the end of the line when

1717
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 2: they're like, longtime boxing analyst and this guy who achieved

1718
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:11,439
Speaker 2: all this stuff, he once climbed Everest with that sherpa.

1719
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 2: You know, he cured corona. He you know, he's whatever

1720
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:19,760
Speaker 2: one time. He Yeah, Like, I still think there's a

1721
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 2: lot I want to do. But if I died tomorrow, right,

1722
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:25,320
Speaker 2: if I drink a corona filled with corona and that

1723
01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 2: was the end of me, I wouldn't want my subhead

1724
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 2: in the obit, Like somebody would have to write the

1725
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:32,280
Speaker 2: open showtime would come to you, Luke.

1726
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:34,280
Speaker 1: They'd be like, look, to be honest, with the past

1727
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 1: few months, you've been the closest to him. You want

1728
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:39,880
Speaker 1: to write this obit for our website from your time

1729
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:40,320
Speaker 1: with BC.

1730
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 2: You'll be like, all right, knew a good amount about boxing,

1731
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:47,280
Speaker 2: knew a good about about MMA, loves loves dongs. Cannot

1732
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:49,639
Speaker 2: live with that, Luke, cannot be like that.

1733
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 1: So in a lot of ways, we said, look, we're

1734
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 1: only talking about the bad that's gonna come out of

1735
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:54,719
Speaker 1: this Corona scare.

1736
01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:56,599
Speaker 2: There's a lot of good, Luke. I've had a lot

1737
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 2: of time with my family the kids. I've introduced my

1738
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 2: twelve year old to the Simpsons on Disney. Plus we

1739
01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:05,759
Speaker 2: had thirty seasons of content to go through. That's bonding.

1740
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:10,639
Speaker 2: I want someday, Luke, that third line to say, great father.

1741
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:15,000
Speaker 3: Right, if I wrote your obituary I read, I would

1742
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 3: put all of those things great father, hell of a friend,

1743
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:21,679
Speaker 3: brilliant analyst, hard worker. I would say you lived life

1744
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:24,439
Speaker 3: from tip to tip. Really is what I would say.

1745
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:29,599
Speaker 3: This comes us from November three eleven. Is the UFC

1746
01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 3: liable if one of their fighters in the Brazil card

1747
01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:34,720
Speaker 3: test positive for coronavirus, even if they passed a pre

1748
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 3: fight screening.

1749
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:38,559
Speaker 1: Well, look, I saw a lot of the night that

1750
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:41,599
Speaker 1: the Rudy Gobert thing happened, the NBA shut down. Then

1751
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:44,000
Speaker 1: suddenly the Rudy Gobert memes are coming out with him

1752
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:46,439
Speaker 1: touching the microphones, which he apologized for. I saw a

1753
01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:49,760
Speaker 1: lot of people on Twitter that I respect, truthfully writing, hey,

1754
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 1: you know, don't be surprised if he starts getting sued

1755
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 1: by other players. Luke, I don't know what's possible in

1756
01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 1: the sewage game. I mean, you could sue anybody, so yeah,

1757
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:03,120
Speaker 1: if but look, that would mean a fighter, standing out,

1758
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:06,679
Speaker 1: stepping out, saying like, I've got an issue here, Let's

1759
01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:09,559
Speaker 1: start a union. They don't do that in that organization loop.

1760
01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:12,439
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, if one of them got sick and then

1761
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:14,599
Speaker 3: got one of their parents sick, and God forbid, their

1762
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:17,200
Speaker 3: parent died, well, now you might be dealing with a

1763
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 3: different situation. I guess we'll have to see. I hope

1764
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 3: it never comes to that.

1765
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:22,320
Speaker 2: Is Scott Coker a hero for paying people?

1766
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:28,200
Speaker 3: I'll say this. He's a responsible public steward, you know,

1767
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 3: And that's not nothing in these days you see so

1768
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:34,519
Speaker 3: many people glibly assess what the responsibility is of each

1769
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:36,840
Speaker 3: of us in our individual roles to do. By the way,

1770
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:39,479
Speaker 3: I talked to Joe Rogan today, I don't think I'm

1771
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 3: going to go to my schedule sit down with him. Well,

1772
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:44,600
Speaker 3: here's the thing. I was talking to him, and I'm like,

1773
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 3: what do I do here, man, Because I don't know that, Hey,

1774
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:48,799
Speaker 3: I don't even know if we're going to be allowed

1775
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 3: to fly in a week's time, number one, And even

1776
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:55,000
Speaker 3: if we are, is that a good idea? And you know,

1777
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:58,599
Speaker 3: we short have talked about the different possibilities. But I'm

1778
01:19:58,600 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 3: probably gonna have to reschedule just because I'm I think

1779
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 3: it's the right thing to do.

1780
01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, the old.

1781
01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 1: Person he's had on Skype right has been snowed in,

1782
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:06,640
Speaker 1: and I don't mean Jonathan.

1783
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:10,040
Speaker 3: Right right at the Edward Snowden variety, because there's a hello,

1784
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:12,240
Speaker 3: no way to get him out of Russia without putting

1785
01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 3: him in jail. So the point being is, you know,

1786
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 3: whatever your life is and whatever it calls for, some

1787
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:20,160
Speaker 3: people have to expose themselves to the public more than others.

1788
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 3: And there might be very good reasons for that. But

1789
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 3: if it's not necessary and you're in a I would argue,

1790
01:20:26,479 --> 01:20:29,439
Speaker 3: because Cooker's in a very privileged position, you have to

1791
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 3: do what is you have to do the ethical thing,

1792
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:36,800
Speaker 3: and he did. And in a world where you could say, well,

1793
01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:38,519
Speaker 3: doing the ethical thing, that's what you're supposed to do.

1794
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 3: Well maybe, But in a world where most are many,

1795
01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:45,680
Speaker 3: even the most successful MMA promoters, won't. It sort of

1796
01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 3: stands out, doesn't it. From Don Salda Brian Campbell, do

1797
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:51,720
Speaker 3: either of you play Mortal Kombat eleven? If not, what

1798
01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:54,680
Speaker 3: was the last actual Mortal Kombat you played? Who is

1799
01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 3: your favorite Mortal Kombat character?

1800
01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:01,160
Speaker 2: Right, I've always been a bigger eat fighter guy, then

1801
01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:05,680
Speaker 2: more more morning. But the last time I.

1802
01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:08,720
Speaker 1: Played Mortal Kombat consistently, I mean I certainly played it

1803
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 1: in a bit. I played in the arcade at the

1804
01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 1: movie theaters before movies in ninety three when it came

1805
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:15,040
Speaker 1: out on Sega.

1806
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:16,200
Speaker 2: It was a giant rush.

1807
01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:18,479
Speaker 1: I played the crap out of it, I believe when

1808
01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:21,520
Speaker 1: PlayStation one came out, I got like an old bootleg

1809
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:24,000
Speaker 1: copy of it in around ninety eight ninety nine and

1810
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:27,280
Speaker 1: sort of resurrected it under the MK branding. I'm a

1811
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 1: Johnny Cage guy.

1812
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:29,200
Speaker 2: How could you not be?

1813
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 3: Luke?

1814
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:34,000
Speaker 1: I think it was really interesting, most relatable to to

1815
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:35,880
Speaker 1: you know, an average white skin guy.

1816
01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:38,439
Speaker 3: Well, a guy who can fight. That's relatable to you.

1817
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty relatable to me, Luke. I mean, I'm

1818
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 1: not some of these, you know, superhero kind. I'm not

1819
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 1: shooting fireballs at people.

1820
01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:48,040
Speaker 2: Guy, you know what I'm saying. I'm shooting old balls

1821
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 2: at people.

1822
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:53,000
Speaker 3: That's right. I've played every Mortal Kombat up to Mortal

1823
01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:56,800
Speaker 3: Kombat ten. I've not played eleven, am and Who's your Guy?

1824
01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:00,800
Speaker 3: I've got many of them, but my number one all time.

1825
01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 3: You want to guess I don't actually don't think you'll

1826
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:04,640
Speaker 3: get this.

1827
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:08,559
Speaker 2: I say sub zero because as a person you're ice cold.

1828
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:11,240
Speaker 3: Luke, I knew. How did I know you were gonna

1829
01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:14,599
Speaker 3: go with the easy sub zero zaying you fucking do this? No,

1830
01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:17,920
Speaker 3: it's not. It's Baraka, the guy who had the long

1831
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:22,680
Speaker 3: knives out of his forearms would slice you up. Yes, yes, no,

1832
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 3: Baraka was initially my favorite since then, like a repurposed Jacks.

1833
01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:31,760
Speaker 3: I like Luke King as a classic, you know, but

1834
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 3: MK was.

1835
01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:36,080
Speaker 1: A better game in the long run than Street Fighter,

1836
01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:38,240
Speaker 1: mostly because it had blood. I mean, look on Sega

1837
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:41,080
Speaker 1: ninety three it was brutes all. But I did love

1838
01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:41,840
Speaker 1: the Street Fighter.

1839
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 2: Guys. More you're telling me Gile wasn't like who you

1840
01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 2: wanted to be in life, Luke.

1841
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 3: No, here's the thing. Do you remember the precursor to more?

1842
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 4: So?

1843
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 3: You and I grew up in an air whine arcades

1844
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 3: were a thing, right, And do you remember the first

1845
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:58,080
Speaker 3: time you played the original Mortal Kombat and you were

1846
01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:00,559
Speaker 3: like with Kano and Luken, you know, you were like,

1847
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:03,840
Speaker 3: it's an amazing game. But do you remember.

1848
01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:07,040
Speaker 1: High was the first time I played Nba Jam in

1849
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:09,759
Speaker 1: the movie Theater Arcade and you're like, Oh my god,

1850
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:10,960
Speaker 1: this is next level.

1851
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:13,240
Speaker 3: The NBA Jam was great too. But do you remember

1852
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 3: the original sort of like out there, the one the

1853
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:18,360
Speaker 3: kind of game that made your parents nervous that was

1854
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 3: bloody and gory and violent, and it was in the

1855
01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 3: arcade Do you remember, uh it was? It was not

1856
01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:27,320
Speaker 3: a fighting game. It was not a fighting game.

1857
01:23:28,479 --> 01:23:31,720
Speaker 1: Well, in the early nineties on my dad's PC, I

1858
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:33,599
Speaker 1: had like Duke Newcom and those type of ones.

1859
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:35,679
Speaker 3: You know, No, did you ever play Nork?

1860
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:39,800
Speaker 2: No? No, they must have had that in DC where

1861
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:42,120
Speaker 2: you were or Cutter or Old Marietta down in the.

1862
01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:43,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, this was DC when I was a kid with

1863
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:46,600
Speaker 3: my dad and Dark was like, you know, it was

1864
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:49,120
Speaker 3: a shoot him up kind of game. It was brutal

1865
01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:51,479
Speaker 3: and ugly and violent, and I remember like how fun

1866
01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:52,640
Speaker 3: it was. It was a kind of a shitty game,

1867
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:55,080
Speaker 3: but it was fun because it was it was. It

1868
01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 3: was violent in a way that was novel at the time.

1869
01:23:57,200 --> 01:23:58,960
Speaker 3: I mean, since then, you know, people are like murdering

1870
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:01,760
Speaker 3: hookers on Grand Theft, But at the time, it was

1871
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 3: like it was novel for how violent it was. And

1872
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:06,080
Speaker 3: then Mortal Kombat came around and then actually was a

1873
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:08,640
Speaker 3: good game and then Mortal Kombat two came around, and

1874
01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:12,200
Speaker 3: to me, once Mortal Kombat two came out, the rivalry

1875
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:14,760
Speaker 3: between that and Street Fighter was never the same. To me,

1876
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:16,920
Speaker 3: that was the turning point. To be honest with you,

1877
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:18,040
Speaker 3: I thought Mortal Kombat too.

1878
01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:21,320
Speaker 1: How quickly you brushed off gile gile was basically if

1879
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:23,760
Speaker 1: you took Prime Zach Morris. And if you're asking me,

1880
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:26,880
Speaker 1: what's the mountaintop point of Prime Zach Morris, it was

1881
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 1: that episode where they had that band, the Zach Attack,

1882
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:32,960
Speaker 1: and then he broke free from that band because he

1883
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:36,080
Speaker 1: was banging that real hot manager Mindy, and he kind

1884
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:38,000
Speaker 1: of had that vanilla ice look with the big hair.

1885
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:42,320
Speaker 1: That's mountaintop Prime Zach Morris. And then imagine injecting him

1886
01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 1: with steroids, giving him sort of a machine gun like Rambo. Look,

1887
01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:48,640
Speaker 1: that's gile Bro. Everyone should want to be that.

1888
01:24:49,439 --> 01:24:51,640
Speaker 3: Eh, all right, last, but we got to get out

1889
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:54,519
Speaker 3: of here. This comes to us from Nick underscore why

1890
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 3: brow how badly? Brian Campbell, do you think this global

1891
01:24:58,120 --> 01:25:02,400
Speaker 3: pandemic will hit the finances of lower tier fighters if

1892
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:04,639
Speaker 3: multiple events need to be canceled. Let me actually add

1893
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:07,000
Speaker 3: a little detail to that. What happens if there's an

1894
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:10,719
Speaker 3: outbreak at a gym, what happens if a lower tier

1895
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 3: organization can't ever get itself back going again? Right? I

1896
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 3: mean the damage that this is going to cause from

1897
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 3: by the way, you know how my family was closing

1898
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:23,160
Speaker 3: a restaurant anyway this past weekend. Like their mood has

1899
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:26,120
Speaker 3: I'm not going to say completely changed, but pretty significantly

1900
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 3: changed because they were closing this weekend no matter what.

1901
01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:30,960
Speaker 3: They just didn't want to be in the restaurant business anymore. Well,

1902
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:33,200
Speaker 3: now there's going to be a global pandemic, and so

1903
01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 3: they're thinking themselves, we could have gone out of business

1904
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:36,760
Speaker 3: with that, or we can just close it on our

1905
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:38,960
Speaker 3: own terms. So why not just close it when you're

1906
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:41,679
Speaker 3: on your own terms? In any event, I worry about

1907
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:44,080
Speaker 3: outbreaks of gyms and what that might do to the gym,

1908
01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:46,519
Speaker 3: to the ability for the forget about the organization's build

1909
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:49,919
Speaker 3: a book the fights to the gym to the individual

1910
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:51,080
Speaker 3: fighter who's now on the shelf.

1911
01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:54,280
Speaker 2: What do you think, Oh, yeah, it's going to be crippling.

1912
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:56,760
Speaker 1: I mean that's sort of why as long as Day

1913
01:25:56,920 --> 01:25:59,120
Speaker 1: On company are going to be able to play this charade,

1914
01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:01,240
Speaker 1: which is donorr, we'll resurrect a card.

1915
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:03,840
Speaker 2: You're gonna find people willing to sign up to do it.

1916
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:06,840
Speaker 2: It's looting. It's almost like there's soldiers sitting at home

1917
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:08,720
Speaker 2: waiting for the battle and they're gonna, like I keep

1918
01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:11,200
Speaker 2: using this alliteration, they're gonna pick up their guns and

1919
01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 2: go in there because they need the damn money. It's scary.

1920
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:16,680
Speaker 1: They're gonna be We're gonna have fast food joints if

1921
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:19,200
Speaker 1: those fast food joints can even stay open. Luke, this

1922
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:22,000
Speaker 1: is the kind of chaos I'm life chaos I'm talking about,

1923
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Speaker 1: and it's not just on the lower level.

1924
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Speaker 2: It's awes, Luke. You know, thank you show.

1925
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Speaker 1: Time in Morning Combat, the label that does pay me

1926
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Speaker 1: to keep this going in CBS Sports.

1927
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Speaker 2: But I'm hopefully that this going means, you know, two.

1928
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Speaker 1: Months of our life on hold and then we move on.

1929
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Speaker 1: But even in those two months, Luke, that long time

1930
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Speaker 1: bro a real cripple to two fighters who fight three

1931
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Speaker 1: to four times a year and one hundred percent depend

1932
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Speaker 1: on that.

1933
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Speaker 2: It's rough, man, It's it's rough. By the way.

1934
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Speaker 1: You're forcing me out here, like you got to get

1935
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Speaker 1: to one of your next jobs, probably.

1936
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:55,719
Speaker 3: Work from home now, Yeah, I know, but I've got

1937
01:26:56,120 --> 01:26:58,160
Speaker 3: one of us has to get this video to Jay,

1938
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:01,479
Speaker 3: and one of us doesn't, So I'm an extra bit

1939
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Speaker 3: of work here.

1940
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Speaker 1: There's potential good I mentioned that could come from this

1941
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 1: whole scenario. You have much more of a darker heart,

1942
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:11,040
Speaker 1: naturally than I have, maybe through your life experiences the Marines.

1943
01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:12,639
Speaker 2: We didn't even get to talk to a movie. Look,

1944
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:14,320
Speaker 2: we've probably got two months to talk movies.

1945
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:17,240
Speaker 3: So yeah, we don't need to overload this episode. We're

1946
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 3: gonna have plenty of time to get to it.

1947
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Speaker 1: But it was Dave Grohl who said, it's times like

1948
01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:24,799
Speaker 1: these we learned to love again. Luke, are you ready

1949
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:28,120
Speaker 1: during this process maybe to just put down your arms

1950
01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:30,920
Speaker 1: for good and repair all the broken relationships in your life?

1951
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:34,280
Speaker 1: Luke first, so you'll want a young j check, I

1952
01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 1: can take this, Luke, follow her on ig pants option.

1953
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:41,960
Speaker 3: I have zero interest in any of these things. All

1954
01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:44,200
Speaker 3: I need is for people to do their job to

1955
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 3: the rest of us in terms of doing the best

1956
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:49,880
Speaker 3: we can to keep everybody safe. That is all that

1957
01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:51,760
Speaker 3: I ask of anyone, and it is all that I

1958
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 3: will do. I will do my part. Everyone should do

1959
01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 3: their part. Remember, we're all in this together. Now, if

1960
01:27:58,479 --> 01:28:00,479
Speaker 3: Jay is watching this, what you should be This is

1961
01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 3: the time when you put up the stuff on the

1962
01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:05,439
Speaker 3: screen about how you can follow Brian on social media.

1963
01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:08,160
Speaker 3: There should be a Twitter follow and Instagram follow. Same

1964
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:10,360
Speaker 3: for me for Morning Combat. We didn't do this at

1965
01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 3: the beginning, Brian, but let's do it now. Like the video,

1966
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:17,160
Speaker 3: subscribe to the channel. I know this is unusual. This

1967
01:28:17,240 --> 01:28:19,439
Speaker 3: is the first time you've seen this. This is not

1968
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:22,960
Speaker 3: normally what this looks like. This is very unusual. So Brian,

1969
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:24,680
Speaker 3: I'll throw it to you for last parting words here,

1970
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:26,439
Speaker 3: anything you want to say to the audience about where

1971
01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:27,160
Speaker 3: we're headed with all this.

1972
01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:28,840
Speaker 2: I mean, in a global pandemic.

1973
01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:33,160
Speaker 1: He's begging for subscriptions and likes crazy look, no all seriousness.

1974
01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:35,240
Speaker 1: We love you guys, and a lot of you have

1975
01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:37,680
Speaker 1: reached out to us since all this went down and said, man,

1976
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:40,960
Speaker 1: I hope MK does not take time off. If you

1977
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:43,479
Speaker 1: guys can just show up and give us something, we'd

1978
01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:46,920
Speaker 1: be grateful and I certainly appreciate that. Please, everybody, stay safe,

1979
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:50,080
Speaker 1: make the right choices, and get closer with the family. Right,

1980
01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:53,120
Speaker 1: get back and spend some quality time. Not everybody's in

1981
01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:56,320
Speaker 1: the same life situation some people are alone but be

1982
01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:58,760
Speaker 1: safe during all this. We want to as long as

1983
01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:02,439
Speaker 1: this chapter goes on where there aren't fights, and I

1984
01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:05,599
Speaker 1: think we can all assume there probably won't be. We're

1985
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:08,760
Speaker 1: certainly going to be here finding ways to entertain and

1986
01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:13,040
Speaker 1: be here with you anyway. And Luke Daniel is convinced

1987
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:15,439
Speaker 1: Tony Habib is gonna happen. I'm just gonna close on

1988
01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:18,599
Speaker 1: this and say we've waited so long. Whether you believe

1989
01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:20,280
Speaker 1: it's cursed, whether I believe this is the fifth time

1990
01:29:20,360 --> 01:29:22,840
Speaker 1: the charm or not. I need to see this in

1991
01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:25,720
Speaker 1: a major arena with a packed audience on pay per view,

1992
01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:27,439
Speaker 1: preferably with me in the front row.

1993
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:30,080
Speaker 2: Yes, first world issue here hashtag blessed for that.

1994
01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:33,160
Speaker 1: I cannot see this Luke in an empty, you know,

1995
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:36,200
Speaker 1: garage somewhere and just just to get it on the air.

1996
01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:38,240
Speaker 2: Can we be smart enough, as the.

1997
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:41,000
Speaker 1: UFC brass to just be like Tony Habib now means

1998
01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:42,000
Speaker 1: so much more?

1999
01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:44,120
Speaker 2: Can we not just force it out there?

2000
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Speaker 3: Yeah, So we'll end on this. I'll say this. I

2001
01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:48,840
Speaker 3: am I don't know why, Brian. I don't have a

2002
01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:51,679
Speaker 3: good reason for you. I really don't. I am very

2003
01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:54,920
Speaker 3: confident that fight is going to happen. I just don't

2004
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:57,200
Speaker 3: think that there's any way it happens on April eighteen.

2005
01:29:57,479 --> 01:29:59,439
Speaker 3: I don't think that there's anyway. I don't think that's

2006
01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:01,720
Speaker 3: where this COUNTR is going to be. I could be

2007
01:30:01,760 --> 01:30:04,160
Speaker 3: totally wrong. I would love to be wrong. Shit, I mean,

2008
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 3: we get Tony kobeven a month, that would be amazing.

2009
01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:09,280
Speaker 3: I just don't think it's realistic, man, I don't think

2010
01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:10,599
Speaker 3: it's even remotely realistic.

2011
01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:12,320
Speaker 1: And so just something I mean, look, you know, I

2012
01:30:12,360 --> 01:30:14,840
Speaker 1: mean it's obvious there's something about a full arena on

2013
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:16,519
Speaker 1: fans there and something mattering.

2014
01:30:16,880 --> 01:30:18,400
Speaker 2: I can almost almost basil.

2015
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Speaker 3: I almost want that to be the light at the

2016
01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:23,839
Speaker 3: end of the tunnel. And I don't think April eighteenth

2017
01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:26,120
Speaker 3: is going to be that time horizon. So let's wait

2018
01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:28,680
Speaker 3: a second. I know it must feel like, you know,

2019
01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:30,240
Speaker 3: you just can't believe we're gonna to book it. It's

2020
01:30:30,280 --> 01:30:34,479
Speaker 3: technically a sixth time. Okay, well, maybe we do like this.

2021
01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:36,439
Speaker 3: You know, this is why you have a rainy day fund,

2022
01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:39,360
Speaker 3: this is why you have insurance. This is why you

2023
01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:42,360
Speaker 3: just have to live in a world where bad things

2024
01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:45,160
Speaker 3: or accidents or just unusual events happen, you got to

2025
01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:47,080
Speaker 3: roll with it. And this has been the most unusual

2026
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:51,719
Speaker 3: unusual fight bookings. Even if the other four hadn't even happened.

2027
01:30:51,800 --> 01:30:54,840
Speaker 3: This is unusual. So I don't know. I am, I am.

2028
01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:57,479
Speaker 3: I am very optimistic. We're gonna watch these two fight.

2029
01:30:58,080 --> 01:30:59,920
Speaker 3: I just don't think it'll be till May, or may

2030
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Speaker 3: be June. That's sort of where my head is at.

2031
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:05,400
Speaker 3: And it might be June because it'll be after Ramadan,

2032
01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:06,880
Speaker 3: So that's sort of where my head's out of all

2033
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:07,120
Speaker 3: of this.

2034
01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:08,240
Speaker 2: Little rumors out there. Luke.

2035
01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:10,920
Speaker 1: By the way, that Jorge Kamara will be pushed off

2036
01:31:10,960 --> 01:31:13,439
Speaker 1: a bit, we may we may get Connor at I

2037
01:31:13,560 --> 01:31:14,960
Speaker 1: FW that could be interesting.

2038
01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:18,920
Speaker 3: Ooh, that'd be nice. It'd be nice to July return.

2039
01:31:19,040 --> 01:31:21,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's got to be just engage you, right.

2040
01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:24,439
Speaker 3: It hasn't got to be anything with him, but I

2041
01:31:24,439 --> 01:31:25,720
Speaker 3: would help. I would hope to.

2042
01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:29,479
Speaker 1: Be Nate dis Part three. You never know, you never know, Luke. Yeah,

2043
01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:31,320
Speaker 1: that's that's the damn show. Next week, we're gonna have

2044
01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:33,439
Speaker 1: much more bells and whistles, but you're gonna get the

2045
01:31:33,479 --> 01:31:35,400
Speaker 1: at home version for a while. It's up to you

2046
01:31:35,439 --> 01:31:37,400
Speaker 1: to believe what I'm wearing from the waist down.

2047
01:31:37,400 --> 01:31:38,800
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna I won't reveal that, though.

2048
01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:45,560
Speaker 3: I am assuming you're wearing flippers and uh speedo. I

2049
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:47,400
Speaker 3: don't know why. You're just remind me of a weirdough

2050
01:31:47,400 --> 01:31:49,760
Speaker 3: who would do that? All right, Brian, you Luke to

2051
01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:50,080
Speaker 3: call it?

2052
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:52,880
Speaker 1: Really to close on this, I have been on a

2053
01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:58,160
Speaker 1: war movie breakdown ever since I told the world rightfully,

2054
01:31:58,200 --> 01:32:01,280
Speaker 1: so the nineteen seventeen is the best movie ever made

2055
01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:03,559
Speaker 1: me there, How couldn't you say that if you haven't

2056
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:07,400
Speaker 1: seen insert Vietnam and whatever movie here? Well, I am

2057
01:32:07,439 --> 01:32:10,280
Speaker 1: personally now one on one and a challenge going down

2058
01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:12,400
Speaker 1: the line and watching all those movies to prove to

2059
01:32:12,439 --> 01:32:14,400
Speaker 1: myself first before I prove to.

2060
01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:17,320
Speaker 2: You that nineteen seventeen is a cinematic classic.

2061
01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:19,639
Speaker 1: Luke, I hope by next week you have watched that

2062
01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:22,760
Speaker 1: and you'll be ready to come to the right side

2063
01:32:22,760 --> 01:32:23,280
Speaker 1: of history.

2064
01:32:23,479 --> 01:32:25,280
Speaker 3: I will be ready because I've seen uncut jims. So

2065
01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:28,160
Speaker 3: I'm halfway home. I will watch nineteen seventeen and we

2066
01:32:28,200 --> 01:32:30,040
Speaker 3: will have it out. My good man. All right, my friends,

2067
01:32:30,040 --> 01:32:32,280
Speaker 3: stay safe, My best to your family, my best to

2068
01:32:32,360 --> 01:32:36,120
Speaker 3: everyone's family who is watching here today. For Brian, I'm

2069
01:32:36,240 --> 01:32:40,160
Speaker 3: Luke until next time. May all of your gains be loyal.

2070
01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:45,520
Speaker 1: Moe Monroe is wanted for the financial terrorist attack Black Monday.

2071
01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:48,200
Speaker 2: Black Monday. This was my idea. It's me who's a

2072
01:32:48,200 --> 01:32:49,080
Speaker 2: Wall Street himself.

2073
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Speaker 4: Mowe's back, baby,