WEBVTT - ICYMI - Dr. Barbara Sturm 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:03.560 Hi everyone, I'm Rachel Zoe and you're listening to Climbing 0:00:03.680 --> 0:00:06.960 in Heels. This show is all about celebrating the most 0:00:07.000 --> 0:00:10.640 extraordinary superwomen who will be sharing their incredible journeys to 0:00:10.680 --> 0:00:14.680 the top, all while staying glamorous. Today with me, we 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:17.200 have one of my very dear friends who I just 0:00:17.320 --> 0:00:22.119 have so much respect for the beautiful soul of a 0:00:22.200 --> 0:00:26.120 human being, doctor Barbara Sterm. She's an esthetic doctor and 0:00:26.160 --> 0:00:31.760 founder and CEO of doctor Barbara Sturm Molecular Cosmetics. I 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:34.519 am so excited to speak with Barbara about how she 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:37.680 balances her work life, her mom life, and what it's 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:42.120 like to work together with her beautiful daughter, because, let's 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:55.200 be honest, that is the dream. I'm so lucky. I'm 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:58.240 surrounded by the most incredible women in my life. Some 0:00:58.320 --> 0:01:01.480 I've known my whole life, some known own more recently. 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:03.880 But I think what I want to understand a little bit, 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:05.759 and I think the thing I really try to touch 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:10.560 on in Climbing and Heels is your journey to get 0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:15.840 to the top all while still being so incredibly feminine 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:18.760 and strong. And I mean, I have to just say, 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:22.000 in your case, glamorous, I mean you're like always dressed 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:22.680 to the nines. 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:25.920 Sometimes you'll wear like the sickest. 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:29.360 Gown ever with heels of course, but like no makeup, 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:31.479 Like you just come in with that dewey fresh skin. 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:34.679 And so I want to really talk about like as 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:37.040 a child, were you like Charlie, were you this like 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:40.720 pretty little blonde, blue eyed girl who had dreams? Or 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:43.600 were you just like all over the place and had 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:46.760 no idea? You know, like how did how did Barbara 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:48.080 start as Barbara? 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:50.240 You see, I probably was more like Pepper. 0:01:50.600 --> 0:01:53.040 And by the way, first of all, you know when 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:56.760 someone has you as a friend and women or people 0:01:56.880 --> 0:02:01.960 like you, it's great because you lift people up on 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:05.280 stage and you make them, you know, stand out, and 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:09.440 you know, give them, give them the audience, and that's great. 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:13.120 You know, you really support women like me or people 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:15.640 like me who come up with something extraordinary, you know, 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:19.160 and you need that. You need those people who support you. 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:21.760 Otherwise you can have the best products, but nobody. 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:23.040 Hears or sees it, you know. 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:28.720 Yeah, so that's that's about you. Well, because I believe 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:30.880 in you. I believe in you. It's genuine. 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:34.520 But that's authentic, you know, that's authentic, and you know, 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:38.160 I'm authentic, and you know, people like us who are authentic, 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:40.040 you know, we get. 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:43.040 Trusted because we're not someone we are not. 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:46.560 You know, we don't pretend to, you know, want to 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:48.880 do skincare when we don't want to do skincare and 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:51.720 we just want to like collect some more bucks, you 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:55.360 know the way. But you know, I was a little 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:58.120 more like Pepper. I wasn't like you know, she's very cheeky. 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:00.720 I wasn't like that. I had very stric. 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:02.880 Parents, but you know, I was all over the place. 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:05.320 I was a tomboy, and I wanted to do every sport. 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:07.320 I wanted to be the best in school. I wanted 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:09.560 to I was always in the first row. I was 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:12.880 always there when something was happening, and it. 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:15.000 Was you know, all these facets. 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:18.400 And I still can have all these facets, which which 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:21.000 is nice to have. I can I can cook in 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:23.280 the kitchen, I can wear a gown, I can go skiing, 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:25.640 I can go and play tennis with the boys. I 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:28.480 can be and you know, in rubber boots. You know, 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:33.760 I take on any anything, yeah, anything. It's also fun 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:37.840 in life to have all these options. But you know, 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:40.160 when someone would have told me, you know, you would 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:41.080 be in the beauty industry. 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:45.800 I would not have believed it. Yeah, really, like, no, 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:46.520 I don't think so. 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:50.440 I wanted to be a doctor, but you know, I mean, 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:54.000 like I am a doctor in the beauty industry now, 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:56.240 which I think is very good and which sets us 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:59.600 apart from any other brand. But you know, I created 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:03.920 something which actually helps my skin, helps my patient, skin 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:07.200 helps my family and friends skin, and then every skin 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:11.040 out there, no matter which color, which concern, which skin type, 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:14.720 which skin problem, which you know, age, which gender, whatever 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:17.560 it is, I have a solution for everyone with skin. 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:20.640 It's it's amazing. And did I hear correctly? 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:24.160 You didn't start out as a germ doctor, right, Like, 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:25.840 were you know orthopedic? 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:27.440 To tell me about this? 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:30.240 Yeah, that's you know, that's also kind of crazy. You know, 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:32.440 I've always wanted to I always wanted to. 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:34.719 Be a children's doctor. 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:37.039 And then you know, I had like I had a 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:38.560 kid when I was twenty three. 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:40.320 I looked like twelve when I had a kid. 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:40.960 Still like twelve. 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:46.279 And I love you. But Charlie, Charlie was there. 0:04:46.279 --> 0:04:47.880 And then I was in the in the in the 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:52.080 children's hospital, working with all these really sick children, and 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:53.240 it broke my heart. 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:56.400 I broke my heart so many times. I can't do it. 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:57.120 I can't do it. 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:01.800 And so I went into the orthopedics and I did 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:05.359 my doctor's study actually on professional ski racers. And that 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:09.120 was my thing, you know, combining fun and you know, 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:14.400 and work and study. So I went into the orthopedics 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:17.919 and I was lucky enough to go together with some 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:23.880 scientists and really interesting people in the orthopedics, which taught 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:26.920 me that you don't have to accept a treatment which 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:28.960 is in the medical space out there. 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:30.320 You can come up with something new. 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:34.039 You can create something which you think is really better 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:35.839 than anything out there and bring it. 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:38.440 To the patients. 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:42.320 So I was very intrigued with science from my early 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:47.280 medical years, and so I created the vampire facial when 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:49.920 I was twenty twenty nine or so. 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:52.440 I remember hearing about this and I was said, what 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:55.080 is that which is crazy? 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:58.040 But it's using your own blood, right, is that correct? 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:01.520 And that comes from the orthopedics, using the own blood, 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:05.760 but also bringing the anti inflammatory medicine into skin. 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:07.800 Look, when we look at skin, you know, and. 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:09.960 You go to your dermatologists, what they do is they 0:06:10.000 --> 0:06:14.800 give you cortison antibiotics, as it peels laser treatments, So 0:06:14.880 --> 0:06:17.400 no matter which disease you have, you get like a 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:20.760 treatment which pretty much destroys your microbiome, your skin barrier. 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:22.920 And you know this is changing now. 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:26.000 But you know, if you come from a dermatological approach, 0:06:26.040 --> 0:06:31.080 which is you know, very you know also let's say, yeah. 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:33.120 Topical also effective for certain diseases. 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:35.320 But you know, sometimes it's better to come from an 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:39.760 anti inflammatory background. And for the cosmetic industry or for 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:44.240 the skincare industry, I think that approach changed. 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:46.680 A little bit. The way we look at at skincare, 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:48.839 the way we look at anti aging approach. 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:52.200 Do we really want to aggressively target the surface of 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:55.120 our skin? Do we really want to destroy our microbiome 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:58.040 and our skin barrier? Do we want to make our 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:01.360 skin super vulnerable causing all this inflammation on our skin. 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:03.960 We live in a time now where prevention is really 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:08.120 the key. Where we look out for our food, for sleep, habits, 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:10.040 for we don't smoke, we don't drink, we don't do 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:13.320 all these things to stay really healthy in order to 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:16.240 not get sick down the line. Because there's COVID, there's 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:19.120 all kinds of viruses, and we need to stay as 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:24.160 strong as possible. Why would we destroy our skin, which 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:27.520 is the entry point for all these viruses and bocterias, 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:30.840 you know, not just that, but you know it gets 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:33.840 translated into our immune system whatever we put on our skin. 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:36.240 And I think people don't think like that. I think 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:38.040 people are just like, oh, this is the thing I 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:40.040 don't have to care about. You can throw chemicals on 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:42.640 there because they'll come off when I when I wash 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:45.679 my body or my face or whatever. And it's so interesting. 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:48.920 And I think, you know, I think there is this thing. 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:52.280 I think that people think about the sort of cosmetic 0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:58.680 industry and dermatology as this very surface industry, right, but 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:02.960 ultimately it's not Allultimately it ties into your your overall 0:08:03.000 --> 0:08:06.880 wellness and health. And I think that's something that you 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:09.960 tupped into early. And I think people are now really 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:13.200 getting a better understanding of you know, but so, okay, 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:15.480 so you grew up with very strict parents. I could 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:17.440 see that, by the way. I could totally see that. 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:20.280 Fun fun, but strict. 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:22.760 I mean, like I had my boundaries, you know, it 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:24.960 was it was it was I think it was good. 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:28.160 I listen, I am strict about a lot of things. 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:31.400 And I have no qualms about it because I actually 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:35.160 think that children need guidance, they need rules, they need 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:39.360 they need structure, or they're just gonna like lose their way, 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:42.319 you know, in my opinion, I mean, it works for us, 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:42.679 you know. 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:48.600 I'm sure you know with Pep. Pepper is so different 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:50.600 and she's just so strong headed. 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:52.080 I mean like, I mean, I'm trying. 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:55.160 You're raising yourself now, and it's like you're raising yourself now, 0:08:57.040 --> 0:08:59.199 don't you see that? Like you're like, wait, that's how 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:01.120 I was. Okay, this is coming back to me. 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:03.080 The thing is, I you know, I was listening to 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:05.560 my parents. She's just like, oh no, I'm doing this 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:05.920 on this. 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:08.319 It's like, you know, and you know what if you 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:11.280 try to, you know, not punish, but like you know. 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:14.680 Take doesn't doesn't she doesn't care, doesn't It doesn't work. 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:15.160 Doesn't work. 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:18.160 I find with kids that have stronger minds, I find 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:22.400 talking is so much more effective. It's like the conversation 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:27.400 explaining the why. Because I actually have found as a 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:30.040 parent that we grew up in a time. 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:34.160 Where there was zero question who was the authority? 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:37.440 Right, it was like it was like if you said why, 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:39.920 they were like because I said so, and. 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:43.640 That was the no. There's no kind none. 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:46.440 And I think now we're raising our kids in a 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:50.920 time where parents were trying to find that balance of 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:54.520 being their best friends and being their authority, because we 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:57.800 want them to share everything with us, We want them 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:01.440 to live this life where they're advocates for themselves. We 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:04.120 teach them to be confident leaders and things like that, 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:08.200 and I find that sitting down and explaining exactly why 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:13.160 is so much more effective because once they can process 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:16.880 this is why they're protecting me either this. If I 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:18.600 do this, I'm going to get hurt. If I do this, 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:20.600 I'm going to get in trouble, and the ramifications are 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:23.200 going to be this right. So I have a question. 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:25.160 So well, first of all, I do want to point 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:27.319 out that you're a young mom. I want to point 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:31.440 out the actual challenge and how hard that is to 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:36.560 build a career while having a young child, because I 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:38.680 always say like, God, you know, I should have done 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:40.920 this younger, so that I was a younger mom and 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:43.360 blah blah blah, And sometimes I say that and sometimes 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:44.240 I'm like, thank. 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:45.080 God I did this late. 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:47.760 I probably would have given up on my career so 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:50.160 that I didn't have to leave them, but you somehow 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:53.880 managed to never leave Charlie basically right, and. 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:58.680 I mean for some times, ca but tell me about that. 0:10:58.960 --> 0:10:59.640 Tell me about that. 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:02.320 And now this sort of second time around the difference. 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:05.640 So when Charlie was delyed my parents. You know, my 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:08.040 mom was like a second mom to Charlie. So when 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:10.720 I was traveling, Charlie was with them, or when I 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:12.600 had to work, my mom would pick them pick her 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:16.160 up from school. So it was very perfect with Charlie. 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:19.480 And she was never really sad about it or anything. 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:21.120 But you know, she always saw. 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:23.439 Me working, I think, which was very very good for her. 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:27.680 I think that, you know, watching your parents building something, 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:30.439 I think it's very good for the kids. And with Pepper, 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:35.080 you know that Pepper now is eight. I was heavily 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:39.440 building the business during that entire time. And she was 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:42.440 traveling with me ever since she was two weeks old 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:44.080 or three weeks old, and I put her on a 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:46.320 plane and we traveled everywhere, and it took. 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:48.880 Her and there was hard. 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:52.000 And then sometimes I went to Australia, so I just 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:55.280 left her behind sometimes like for two three weeks. 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:56.360 It was so hard. 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:01.000 Yeah, it was so I mean like even your children, 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:02.120 I mean you know that you. 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:03.880 Know, even if it's just for two days, it's the worst. 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:07.200 It's the worst, the worst. Your heart strings are like being. 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:09.560 Even if it's better for them, yeah, it's better for 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:12.920 them to say, and they're they're like, you know, whatever 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:16.360 system or school, it's it hurts. 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:22.199 But now I think that, you know, watching Charlie for 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:25.760 for our listeners that don't know, Barbara has an older 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:29.880 daughter who's in her twentieth mid twenties, right, and she's 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:32.720 obviously like beyond stunning. But you know, I think I 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:37.080 met her when she was maybe fifteen, and I just 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:41.360 but she always was watching you. She always was next 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:45.200 to you. She always was like respecting what you were doing. 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:47.640 And I remember her teen moment where she was like, 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:51.200 I have pimples, but my mom's saying, like she was 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:53.360 still being a teenager. She would still keep you in 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:55.520 line if you said something she didn't like. And you 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:58.000 know what teenage daughters do what I certainly did and 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:00.240 probably still do to my mom. But I think think 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:04.000 that now that she works with you, I mean, how 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:06.880 does that feel? That must feel incredible because like to me, 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:09.040 that's the dream. But I feel like the dream doesn't 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:09.640 always happen. 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:12.920 Oh my god, it's the best. It's the best, It's 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:15.800 the best. I love Charlie so much. She's so smart, 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:19.800 so smart. Also in business, she does business strategy. Yesterday 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:23.000 she hosted a big lunch at Art Bars of Miami. 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:26.120 She did an entire speech. I didn't even I didn't 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:27.880 talk to her, you know, she didn't ask me. 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:30.880 She she just does this speak. She's so confident now, 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:32.359 it's fantastic. 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:35.600 And you know, we did a big leadership ship meeting 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:38.280 and she was part of it and then in our company, 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:41.160 and then we had a coach with us, and the 0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:45.800 coach said to my MD, after that leadership she said, 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:47.600 Charlie has to take over the company. 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:52.679 Oh so it's it's unbelievable. So that I expected that now, 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:55.240 I expected. I didn't ask her to do it. 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:59.840 But she's like also, she's covering an entire next generation. 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:01.400 Yes, you know, we are asked. 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:03.040 We know each other, like you know, we have like 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:06.760 our like whole network, but next generation network. 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:10.680 I mean, like she knows everybody. She travels to to Learna, 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:13.760 to New York too. She knows everybody. She's invited to everything, 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:14.840 it's unbelievable. 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:18.400 It's incredible. No, no, it's incredible. And I think, you know, 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:22.040 it's interesting because I always give Massoni as an example 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:26.800 of this beautiful family business right where yeah, the grandmother 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:30.400 and the grandfather and then you know the mom and 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:33.760 Mark Rita and the sisters and the cousins and the uncles, 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:37.640 and you know, it's amazing. And I think for us, 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:40.560 like you know, when Roger and I started our business, 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:43.600 I remember when we had sky and everyone kept saying, 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:45.880 what do you dream for your kids? And it was like, look, 0:14:45.880 --> 0:14:47.800 you want them to live their own life, right, you 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:50.560 hope that you build something that you can pass to 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:54.040 your children. But at the same time, if the kids 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:56.960 have zero interest in doing this, like let them live 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:58.960 their life, let them live their dream and do their thing. 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:01.560 But for you, I feel like you handled it so 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:06.760 beautifully because you didn't ask, and that is smart. 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:09.880 You know, it's hard for kids. You know, she's my daughter. 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:14.720 You know, other employees of co workers not always. 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:17.720 Respect course I disbanded to. 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:20.080 Make them, yeah, but I also didn't make them. Of 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:21.000 course she had to. 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:24.760 She had to work herself up and you know, and 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:28.240 and strengthen her position and I'm not telling people to. 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:28.800 Love my kids. 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:32.560 You know, it's like it's up to them and everybody. Yeah, 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:33.960 and everybody loves her. 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:35.320 She's amazing. 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:40.080 She has your very similar demeanor, though she's very like, well, 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:44.280 you're like inner, not calm, but she has this very 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:46.800 like calm kind of chill thing. 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:49.720 Oh my god, she's so calm. 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:53.120 I'm like, I'm like a fire correcting. 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:55.760 Yeah, I am impulsive. 0:15:55.840 --> 0:15:57.920 I just do this and this, and if this opportunity 0:15:57.960 --> 0:15:59.880 is I do that as well, you know. And Charlie's 0:15:59.920 --> 0:16:04.440 like thinking, thinking, thinking, and then you know she grew 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:06.920 up as my mother and I was her kid. Always 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:10.360 I'm not amazing, always like the one who just you know, 0:16:10.800 --> 0:16:13.600 calms me down and just you know, mom, look at 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:17.080 this this way, and maybe I's so funny. 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:20.200 Actually so then maybe so Then Okay, So I do 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:22.920 want to talk about mentorship because I think to your 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:24.880 point earlier, you know, I grew up. 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:25.920 I don't know how you grew up. 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:28.480 But in my career, I didn't have a lot of 0:16:28.880 --> 0:16:33.600 female mentors that took me under and said, let me 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:35.800 help you, let me tell you what to do and 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:38.840 what not to do in this industry. I'm going to 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:40.960 tell you what's going to trip you up, and you know, 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:44.000 all those things. I didn't really have that, and I 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:48.160 think that's why I really try hard to be that 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:51.640 person for people, because I do know how valuable it is. 0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:55.440 And I you know, I think for you, growing up 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:59.600 with you know, amazing strict parents, I did as well. 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:03.120 I imagine your parents were mentors for you. 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:05.159 They teach you the basics. 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:07.960 You know. My parents always said, you know, be kind 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:11.280 to everyone, you know, have respect for everybody. You know, 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:13.480 keep your feet on the ground, and. 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:16.160 That was something. You know, these are good skills to have. 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:21.359 And you know, building this business. I mean I didn't 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:22.919 even know I had a business. You know, I was 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:26.600 just making creams for and stuff for my patients. 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:26.840 As a doctor. 0:17:27.000 --> 0:17:29.800 You know, I was like this, you know, business became 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:32.680 a business way way later. But you know, I'm still 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:36.000 as a doctor. It service to my patients and that 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:39.760 really what matters to me. I don't really remember having 0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:41.159 mentors other than my parents. 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:43.040 I had an. 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:47.080 Orthopedic doctor who helped me to really fulfill the dreams 0:17:47.080 --> 0:17:51.639 and doing my own treatments, and that really gave me, 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:55.359 you know the power also now to say, you know, 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:58.800 I'm confident. I don't look right or left. I have 0:17:58.880 --> 0:18:01.760 a strong view good for the skin. That doesn't mean, 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:05.600 you know, it's what other people do. It's really just us. 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:08.440 It's storm It's nothing else but stormy. I don't care 0:18:08.480 --> 0:18:09.280 what other people do. 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:13.800 You know, are like a very strong, strong way. Yeah. 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:16.800 I think that's so smart because I actually think that. 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:21.000 I read a quote recently and I'm trying to remember it. 0:18:21.000 --> 0:18:24.719 It was so profound and so true. Comparison is the 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:28.280 thief of joy. That's the process on yourself. 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:31.119 And that's why I love it, and that's. 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:33.520 Why I don't like this, you know, social media going 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:36.040 through it's the stories, you know. I always say to 0:18:36.080 --> 0:18:39.640 the kids of my friends, to everybody, say, stop watching 0:18:39.720 --> 0:18:40.760 other people's life. 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:44.320 Don't you make any sense? No, focus on yourself. What 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:45.160 do you want to do? 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:49.439 You know, you're beautiful, You're you know, your own person, 0:18:49.480 --> 0:18:50.359 with your own life. 0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:52.320 It's crazy, so true. 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:55.440 I think grown ups have the same problem though, that's 0:18:55.440 --> 0:18:58.240 the thing, and I think that, like you know, kids, 0:18:58.400 --> 0:19:02.240 I think the impact is sometimes irreparable, you know. But 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:06.240 I have actual girlfriends that stopped being on social media 0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:08.080 because they said, it's. 0:19:08.400 --> 0:19:09.199 Really ruining me. 0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:12.720 Like, it's really making me feel like I'm not included 0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:17.280 in anything. I feel like I live this really boring life. 0:19:17.320 --> 0:19:20.960 She's like, and it really makes me feel bad about myself. 0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:23.400 And She's like, and I find when I don't look 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:25.840 at it, I'm genuinely happier. 0:19:25.880 --> 0:19:26.080 You know. 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:29.200 And I was like, Okay, that's you know, it's great. 0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:32.280 You know, you're obviously living your dream beyond dreams. But 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:34.680 I think the question is, you know, I want to 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:37.199 talk about education for a brief second, because I always 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:40.920 like to talk about I really believe your education does 0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:43.880 not define you in any way. I think to go 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:46.160 to sort of like your earlier point, you were sort 0:19:46.200 --> 0:19:48.439 of like, huh, I was going to be a child doctor. 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:49.480 I was going to I thought I was going to 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:55.159 be a child psychiatrist, for what it's worth. But I 0:19:55.880 --> 0:19:58.479 want to understand your point of view on that, Like, 0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:00.760 did Charlie go to college? You obviously went to college 0:20:00.760 --> 0:20:02.720 because you're a doctor, so you went all the way. 0:20:03.200 --> 0:20:05.560 But I do want to hear your thoughts on that. 0:20:05.760 --> 0:20:09.240 I think you collect life skills throughout your life. Yeah, 0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:11.800