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Speaker 1: The latest news and notes from the insiders who cover

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Speaker 2: Touchdown Kyler Murray. That defender is in multiple pieces. Oh

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Speaker 2: that was nasty right there. Rights slam the ground by

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Speaker 2: Puda Baker like a torpedo. He came flying into the backfield.

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Speaker 2: I ain't scared of nobody.

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Speaker 1: Here's Paul Calvic.

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Speaker 2: If you've ever gone to lambeau Field and the Cardinals

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Speaker 2: are going this year, you realize that in the bus

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Speaker 2: ride over its house house, house stadium. You go out

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Speaker 2: to colts practice outside Indianapolis and it's farm, silo, barn

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Speaker 2: football fields, right, it's all of us. It's like you

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Speaker 2: build it, they will come. It's the field of dreams

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Speaker 2: of NFL training camps and we were at joint practice.

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Speaker 2: Gonna be there again and in between Cardinals Underground brought

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Speaker 2: Right beautiful hotel, Danny, this is your makeshift radio studio,

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Speaker 2: is it not?

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Speaker 3: And it's beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, Darren, about.

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Speaker 4: That, Darren, just the way you said that, Danny.

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Speaker 2: Darren's already locked in, He's got the notepad going, he's

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Speaker 2: he's already focused where he's gonna go next. I think

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Speaker 2: we need to let Darren just take a note here.

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Speaker 2: I think, uh, you know, actually the Buzzy camp along

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Speaker 2: in the days. Uh you know, Danny, I know by you,

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Speaker 2: but you could and help Notice that there was Darren

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Speaker 2: How about that.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, if I don't know if Danny was

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Speaker 5: around for that. No, it was. It was good to

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Speaker 5: see Edge came. He was there decked out in all

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Speaker 5: Colts swag, which I understand, and he was there for

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Speaker 5: the Colt But came around by the tenth that I

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Speaker 5: us and noted that were two of the few faces

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Speaker 5: which obviously the last year he played for the Cardinals

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Speaker 5: change all the way around, especially on the football side.

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Speaker 5: But it was good to see him. It was good

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's enough change year to year, much less

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Speaker 4: It still looks like he could play football us.

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Speaker 2: He looks great. Marvin Arrison's senior was out, so that

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Speaker 3: Right, Absolutely that that was not so fun. Where practice

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Speaker 2: or right dueling. Takeaways and observations. Danny, why don't you

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Speaker 3: name of your official list, Danny, come.

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Speaker 2: On now, the Polypigskin breakout player.

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Speaker 3: Yes, x Squerres. We've got Xavier Weaver on offense, Davier

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Speaker 5: That definitely got the crowd's attention because that's how I

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Speaker 5: I think Xavier Weaver is a guy who as much

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Speaker 5: as much as I'm loath to admit it, Paul might

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Speaker 5: But I think Owen Pappo has really made strides. You know,

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Speaker 5: So I was interested to see how it went my perspective,

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Speaker 5: I know they're competing, but I'm a little hesitant to say, oh,

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Speaker 5: all these pass rushers are going to get home when

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Speaker 2: his progressions? You never quite know. Getting back to Owen Papo, though,

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Speaker 2: for the first time in Arizona, work with Buddy Morris

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Speaker 2: Chris Barnes had a really good preseason game he got

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Speaker 2: I did not realize this. He was an undrafted rookie

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Speaker 2: seen so far, all of a sudden, you do feel

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Speaker 2: Xavier Thomas. So whereas like you, Danny and Darren, I

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Speaker 2: a chance to release see Kyler truly compete. You won't

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Speaker 2: years Quentin Nelson. What Darius Robinson did at Quentin Nelson

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Speaker 4: All right? Cynical? I was okay with it was the

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Speaker 2: Maybe skeptical of the preseason results. We've known enough over

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 2: Can I dive into these preseason results and really embrace them?

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Speaker 2: But let me here's let me get back to Owen Papal.

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Speaker 2: I'm sidetracking myself over here when it comes to Rookies

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Speaker 2: it's still this season. Powerpole. Michael Wilson, Garrett Williams, Dante Stills,

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Speaker 2: I was trying to explain to Mark mcclun Okay sports

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Speaker 2: he has upside. Savior Thomas is sitting there in round five.

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Speaker 2: He has stupid speed off the edge, something you can't teach.

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Speaker 2: Owen Papo has all this athleticism. You write out some

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Speaker 2: And so it's a lot of times GMS win and

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Speaker 4: I think that's I think that's a fair point.

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Speaker 5: And I think with both of them, you know, you're

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Speaker 3: Whoa whoa, whoa whoa in football terms, in football age.

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Speaker 4: Danny works in football.

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Speaker 5: She takes every opportunity to take shots at my age.

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Speaker 5: So what else I would say that you know, ultimately,

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Speaker 5: Hasan Reddick is looking for a four year deal worth

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Speaker 3: I mean, it is interesting taking those examples into account,

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Speaker 3: because you're right, you'd have to make a trade for

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Speaker 3: draft capital next year to begin with, so you'd really

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Speaker 3: Doesn't really feel like that fits with where the Cardinals are. No,

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Speaker 3: do they need pass rush help, Yes, I still think

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Speaker 3: I don't know that it fits right now bringing in

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Speaker 3: about is this team one pass rusher? Away from making

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Speaker 3: all this is it's a son Reddick who has history

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Speaker 3: Does that somehow disrupt every other point that's being made

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Speaker 3: Does that somehow make the Cardinals more inclined to maybe

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you told me the Manias support called

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Speaker 3: But why what are you right? What do you at

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Speaker 2: Right? I mean, just gave up a conditional third. Yeah, Joe,

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Speaker 2: We're not going to give you the third, but let

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Speaker 2: talk to Hassan Reddick's rep. And you know, you're getting

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Speaker 4: Well, and there's the other rub that you just mentioned.

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Speaker 2: Here's here, Here's here's where I'm thinking if you want

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Speaker 3: Are we going to like a wide receiver? CD Lamb

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no no no. I think this missed. I

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Speaker 4: Let's the Rams do have Jimmy g he suspended the

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying it's a good development in a way.

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Speaker 2: If Clayton Tune is that.

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Speaker 3: This week we will probably see Clayton Toon start and

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Speaker 5: So here's my question. I don't think they're gonna keep

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Speaker 2: Probably my answer that would be I would risk Desmond Ritter.

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Speaker 5: Okay, And I'm saying less about which one you would

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Speaker 2: And if you want to zoom out a little bit,

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Speaker 2: This roster is definitely more talented. Yeah, we're gonna cut

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Speaker 2: Obviously it's all about roster construction. But inevitably there's gonna

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Speaker 2: be a player or two or three who do get

435
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Speaker 2: cut who probably gonna sign elsewhere. And that's a good sign.

436
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,919
Speaker 2: That's a sign that you have much more talent than

437
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 2: you did a year ago. But if you can pull

438
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,680
Speaker 2: the trigger and be proactive and get something in return

439
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 2: for some of you might hit the street in two weeks.

440
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Speaker 2: That's my only point.

441
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Speaker 3: It almost feels like to Trey for Ridter right sending

442
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 3: Rondell More to Atlanta. Of Okay, if you already have

443
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 3: the idea that you maybe like a Greg Dortch a

444
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 3: little bit more and feel like you can get a

445
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 3: little more out of doors and what you want to

446
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 3: do when you have somebody who wants a Rondel Moore. Okay,

447
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 3: pull the trigger and then you can get someone you

448
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 3: needed another quarterback. So that's kind of how I would

449
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 3: view that if there's a trade for a quarterback.

450
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Speaker 2: How about corner back? How do you feel about corner

451
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 2: right now? In this team? There was a big play

452
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 2: I couldn't help but notice it. Michael Pittman made a

453
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 2: big catch against Sean Murphy. Bunting celebrated through the ball

454
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 2: up into the stands and the Colts fans loved it.

455
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 2: Where are you with the Cardinals secondary right now? In

456
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:46,479
Speaker 2: particular corner? And you think the Cardinals are scouting other

457
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,679
Speaker 2: team's rosters because you know what, someone reminded me recently,

458
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,639
Speaker 2: remember what happened after the final cuts last year? Cardinals

459
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,880
Speaker 2: latched on to Roy Lopez. They latched on as starling

460
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 2: Thomas MANI A. Spore did a real good job of

461
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 2: looking at other teams scraps and picking up guys who

462
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 2: I think other teams regret letting go at this point.

463
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Speaker 5: And they're they're fourth in the waiver claim again this year,

464
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 5: so they're gonna have some opportunity there if they want

465
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 5: again and again if you claim somebody on waivers, you've

466
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 5: got to put them on the active roster, which means

467
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 5: somebody else you.

468
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 2: Have to cut good point.

469
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Speaker 4: So that's.

470
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Speaker 5: You know, when I was watching what what I could

471
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Speaker 5: watch in the practice of the of the defense. I mean,

472
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Speaker 5: when the Colts were passing the ball. Yeah, that the

473
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 5: last play, the bomb to Pittman over Murphy Bunting. First

474
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 5: of all, that was a gorgeous throw by Anthony Richardson.

475
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Speaker 5: But for the most part, what I was watching was

476
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 5: a bunch of chuck downs to like the the guys

477
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 5: in the flat. Like there were there were some throws downfield,

478
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,400
Speaker 5: but almost all of them, other than the last one,

479
00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 5: were broken up. And the ball that the Colts were

480
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 5: completing seem like they're all in the flat.

481
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 2: Now.

482
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Speaker 5: I'm not saying they weren't gaining yards, right, but they

483
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 5: were gaining like seven yards or five yards, and it

484
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 5: wasn't like they were getting beaten out. Again, Nick Rolis,

485
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 5: whether you're playing zone, I wasn't over there enough to see,

486
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 5: but I didn't in terms of coverage. I didn't see like,

487
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 5: oh my god, oh my god, that's not That wasn't

488
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 5: the impression I was left with. Now, whether just like

489
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Speaker 5: we were talking before about the Colts pressure quote unquote

490
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 5: on Kyler Murray, you know, were they getting pressure on them?

491
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Speaker 5: Would they have gotten pressure on Richardson in a game?

492
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Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know.

493
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Speaker 5: I will say that it's gonna be hard to tell

494
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,919
Speaker 5: after this week because practice is practiced. No matter how

495
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 5: much we want to talk about how much they're competing,

496
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 5: it's practice. And then in the game, Shane Stikeen basically

497
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 5: admitted he's not going to be playing anybody of any

498
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 5: import for the Colts. And I although Jonathan Gannon isn't

499
00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 5: gonna tell us ahead of time because he's gonna talk

500
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 5: before practic and it's made very clear he's not gonna

501
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 5: quote unquote decide who's playing in this game until after

502
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 5: this practice, I sincerely doubt we're gonna see anybody of

503
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,199
Speaker 5: import from the Cardinals either. So I don't think this

504
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 5: game is gonna tell us much other than the back

505
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 5: ends of the roster.

506
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Speaker 3: The only difference I would expect from the first to

507
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 3: second preseason game when you're talking about possible starters are

508
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 3: players who were back to practicing this week after dealing

509
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 3: with some sort of like injury. Right, So, like a

510
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 3: running back Amari de Mericatto who was practicing. He didn't

511
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 3: play in the first preseason game. Cornerback Garrett Williams. I

512
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 3: wouldn't expect defensive lineman Justin Jones to play because he's

513
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 3: secured a starting role. He was back to practicing, though

514
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 3: we haven't seen the last couple practices. That would be

515
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Speaker 3: the only difference. I could see Max Mount in the

516
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 3: cornerback those would be really the only difference is when

517
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Speaker 3: you're talking about starters who maybe got some snaps in

518
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 3: the first game, maybe not in the second, that I

519
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,120
Speaker 3: would kind of expect opposite, just because they didn't play

520
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 3: in that first game.

521
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison Junior got three snaps one series in the

522
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Speaker 2: first game. Is he done? Is he done for that?

523
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:01,199
Speaker 3: He's done?

524
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 2: Yes, you guys saw the big catch he had from Kyler. Yes,

525
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 2: give us a play by play. I believe I missed that.

526
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 3: Uh, I mean check it out on Azy Cardinals on

527
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 3: our Twitter. We have the video. It's again, it's just

528
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 3: a clear connect, like a clear example of the connection.

529
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 3: I feel like all practice you could see whether it

530
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 3: was in space against one defender against two, that Harrison Junior.

531
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Speaker 3: His catch radius is huge, and he's got the length,

532
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 3: he's got the soft hands, he's got the eye for it.

533
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 3: I mean, the connection is really beautiful to see. And

534
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 3: this is still so early on that it's exciting of

535
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 3: when they are going full speed in a game what

536
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 3: it can truly look like. Harrison Junior's ability to create

537
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 3: space and to still win those contested catches when he's

538
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 3: got defenders all over him really is impressive.

539
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,199
Speaker 5: I think you can already see the trust there. I

540
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 5: know Kyler's talked about the trust and I feel like

541
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 5: it's okay d But at the same time, I think

542
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 5: when you see them on the field, I think you

543
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 5: can see that trust. I think you can see that

544
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 5: trust with Michael Wilson and with Greg Dorts quite frankly.

545
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 5: And the other thing that I noticed yesterday.

546
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 2: And honestly I'd put Trey McBride ahead all those guys, Yeah,

547
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 2: is his trust factor in connection with McBride. We're not

548
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 2: going to see in the preseason. Most fans aren't going

549
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 2: to see any of it unless you come out to

550
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 2: camp and well, that's done. But it is really natural.

551
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 2: It's really easy.

552
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 5: I was going to bring about that's that's the other

553
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 5: person there was a play. There was a play over

554
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 5: the middle where McBride got wide open and went is

555
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 5: seven on seven, so okay, but.

556
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 4: He made he made the catch. So efforts effortlessly.

557
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 5: And it just from my I do not ever recall

558
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 5: a time when Trey McBride fought a pass. He's got

559
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 5: such soft hands and it just seems automatic. And I

560
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 5: agree with you that I think the trust is there.

561
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 5: And I think again, when we start talking about where

562
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 5: this offense can be and all that stuff we're gonna

563
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 5: have to see, is that run game gonna pick up

564
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 5: where it left off and generate yards? I think it is.

565
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 5: I think I've seen some nice things already. Do you

566
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 5: get the pass protection? But I am, I'm I'm bullish

567
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 5: as I always have been on this offense, and nothing happened,

568
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 5: and Wednesday's practice to change that, whether or not somebody

569
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 5: else watching it might have seen, I don't know a devastation.

570
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 2: You know, everyone dismisses like rookie mini camp, like, oh,

571
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 2: when do you get out of a rookie mini camp? Well,

572
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 2: when it comes to a receiver, you got to check

573
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 2: that first first box. Can they catch? How many lower

574
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 2: round receivers have been drafted just based on the measurables

575
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 2: over the years. Yeah, oh, he's six three, he's two twenty,

576
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 2: runs a four or five, and then you get him

577
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 2: out in a rookie mini camp and he can't even

578
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 2: easily catch a slant. Right, He's always fighting the football

579
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 2: from day one. The moment Trey McBride was drafted, you're like, Wow,

580
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 2: just just so natural and easy catch the football. That's

581
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 2: the first box you gotta check if you're going to

582
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 2: be a big time target in this league. Which brings

583
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 2: me to Marvin Harrison Junior, an old rookie receiver factor

584
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 2: in the league. I'm going to read you this quote.

585
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,479
Speaker 2: He's going to be a game changer the first day

586
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 2: he steps out there. People are gonna have to worry

587
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 2: about him. Teams are gonna have to have everyone help

588
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 2: everyone else. He's been impressive. That is Drew Locke about

589
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 2: Molik Neighbors. The amount of headlines in noise coming out

590
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 2: in New York about Moleik Neighbors, right, the second wide

591
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 2: receiver taking in the NFL trial is just starting to

592
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 2: get really irritating. At this point. This sort of predictions

593
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 2: and projections for what Molik Neighbors is going to do

594
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 2: to the league and what that's gonna do for Daniel

595
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 2: Jones and the Giants. And Marvin Harrison Junior has just

596
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 2: been working with his head down.

597
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 3: That's probably what he prefers.

598
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 2: But all this stuff is coming out of New York

599
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 2: and the Big Blue, whereas the Big Red. I they

600
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 2: have a guy who I fully expect to eclipse whatever

601
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 2: Malik Neighbors is doing out there. Might not have the

602
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 2: OBJ you know, Oh he might not o dell it

603
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 2: with a one hander like I guess Malik Neighbors has

604
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 2: done already a couple of times.

605
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 4: But if Marvin can do that if asked.

606
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 2: So, if Malik Neighbors is going to be all that

607
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 2: with Daniel Jones, what is Marvin Harrison Junior tracking to

608
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 2: do with Kyler Murray? I guess that's my point, except

609
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,479
Speaker 2: it's not New York and you're not getting flaming headlines

610
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 2: in the New York Post.

611
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, if that's the if that's the comparison

612
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 3: of what Malik Neighbors can do with Daniel Jones, and

613
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 3: I feel pretty good about what Marvin Harrison Junior can

614
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Speaker 3: do with Kyler Murray as quarterback.

615
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 2: I just think the NFL has sort of forgotten about

616
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 2: the receiver that went ahead of Malik Neighbors because everything

617
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 2: comes down to New York and all the press coverage.

618
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 2: That's all just throwing that. By the way, power pole.

619
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Speaker 2: Can't let you go without a power pole?

620
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Speaker 4: Are you letting us go? Already?

621
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Speaker 2: NFC West receiver rooms go? Who has the best receiver

622
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 2: room in the NFC West? Where do the Cardinals currently rank?

623
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 2: We know where they ranked last year, hence the selection

624
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 2: of Marmine.

625
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 4: He is right now.

626
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 2: And that's one of the reasons I bring it up

627
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 2: because if Brandon Ayike is destined to leave the division,

628
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 2: which it appears, I don't know. I haven't looked in

629
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 2: the last ten minutes what the latest is.

630
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 5: I will say this when you talk about that power pole,

631
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,719
Speaker 5: and this is with all due respect to what the

632
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 5: Cardinals are building. I think at this point before any

633
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 5: games are played, if you have them any higher than fourth,

634
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 5: you're you're being completely biased because you look at what

635
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 5: Tyler Lockett and Metcalf have done in Seattle, you look

636
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 5: at what.

637
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 2: Poop Jackson Smith and.

638
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:39,719
Speaker 4: I'm just doing the top two.

639
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 2: I'm doing the whole room. Go Ahead's fine, go ahead.

640
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 5: But like you see what Nicoua and Cooper Cup have done,

641
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 5: and obviously you've seen what Deebo Samuel and Brandon Ayuka

642
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 5: has done, it is so as wrong as.

643
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 3: Christian McCaffery is one of their receivers as well.

644
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 2: Yes, great point.

645
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 5: So I'm going to say, I'm going to say the

646
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 5: Cardinals are chasing, but I love the idea of what

647
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 5: they can be. If we're talking about pass catchers, if

648
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 5: we're talking the whole group, if we're going to put

649
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 5: in Christian McCaffrey, then we're we can put in Trey McBride.

650
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 4: Now again, the forty nine ers put.

651
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Speaker 2: In Kitt Kittle.

652
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Speaker 5: So I think it's a wonderful division for those kinds

653
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 5: of things. And I will also say that for me,

654
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 5: if you're talking about if you talk about the receiving

655
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 5: core with the quarterback, I think that moves the Cardinals up.

656
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 5: Because I'm not a huge Geno Smith guy, you know.

657
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 5: I think brock Purty has proven what he can do,

658
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 5: and I think Matthew Stafford remains the best in the division.

659
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Speaker 5: But I think the fact that you can have a

660
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 5: discussion where there's actually some discussion that the Cardinals should

661
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 5: be included potentially in this is way better than where.

662
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 3: You were, and the Cardinals are clearly trending upwards. I

663
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 3: don't necessarily feel like they're playing catch up. And it's oh,

664
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Speaker 3: you're like, I really do feel like it could be close,

665
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 3: given what we've seen and what we're expecting of. When

666
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 3: you get through the season and ask us this question

667
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 3: again halfway through the season, and I really feel like

668
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 3: the Cardinals will have earned their way up the ranks.

669
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Speaker 4: That's fair.

670
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Speaker 2: And if yeah, if I extraded, then it's debo, it's

671
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 2: Ricky Pearsoll Juwan Jennings. Of course you have.

672
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Speaker 3: Parson McCaffrey's out for a couple of weeks, right, is

673
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 3: he yeah? Right? Isn't expected to miss a couple weeks

674
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 3: or is he going to be ready to start week one?

675
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 2: Look, all I know is if you want to talk

676
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 2: about local kids, I'd like to see you talk about

677
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 2: brock Party. I'd like to see Kyler Murray this year

678
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 2: have the ability, the luxury of being Brock Party, being

679
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 2: accused of being a game manager, having so many weapons

680
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 2: that Kyler doesn't have to be superman, Kyler doesn't have

681
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 2: to get out there, and you know, run the four

682
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 2: to three. Here's he's ridiculous. I just justice Marvin Harrison

683
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 2: Junior to Michael Wilson, to Trey McBride, check down to

684
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 2: James Connor, who wants some Here's tip Priman on a

685
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 2: tight end screen. Just go ahead and pull a brock

686
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 2: party and be a cue used to being a game manager.

687
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Speaker 5: Let me ask you this question, in all seriousness, are

688
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 5: do we think Kyler would be okay if somebody started

689
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Speaker 5: saying you're a game.

690
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,760
Speaker 2: Manager and then you know what, you know, he wouldn't.

691
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 5: I think I think he absolutely wants the weapons, and

692
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 5: I absolutely don't think he wants to have to be Superman.

693
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Speaker 5: But if you flipped it and said, okay, we just

694
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 5: need you to be a game manager, I don't think

695
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 5: that would go.

696
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 2: And at that moment you would get an epic highlight

697
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Speaker 2: like you did against the Raiders.

698
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

699
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 2: Right, we're extending the play for twenty one seconds and

700
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 2: you know, making all eleven guys miss and wrapped in

701
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 2: the end zone. So yeah, that would you're that's a

702
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 2: great point. What sort of motivator would that be for

703
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray? For the first time ever, he's heard that

704
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 2: he's just a product of the scheme and the weapons.

705
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 2: That'd be hilarious, right man, you'd probably get the best

706
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 2: version of at that point because he's so he's so competitive.

707
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 2: That's funny, all right. Any other takeaways, as you know what,

708
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna come back full circle to Darius Robinson. I'm

709
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 2: just when he tells the media that on the first

710
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,720
Speaker 2: snap of the game against the Saints that the Ones

711
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 2: broke the huddle. He's like, Oh, okay, here we go.

712
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 2: This is about to get real. Hey, that's that's Alvin Kamara.

713
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 2: And then boom he makes the tackle on Alvin Kamara.

714
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 2: He just has this innocence about him. Yeah, it's almost

715
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 2: like he doesn't realize how good he can be, and

716
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 2: he's sort of finding out incrementally. It's almost like the

717
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 2: veterans know more about his game already than he does.

718
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 2: It's like he's sort of proving on the job on

719
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 2: the fly. Oh I can forklift Quentin Nelson, six time

720
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 2: Pro bowler. Oh I just did that. Hmm, maybe I

721
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 2: can wreck this league to some degree a defensive line.

722
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Speaker 3: I was just gonna make that point. I feel like

723
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 3: these joint practices here with the Colts might be a

724
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 3: little more eye opening and in a positive in the

725
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 3: best way possible for somebody like Darius Robinson. I'm intrigued

726
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 3: to see how much we see of him moving forward.

727
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 3: We saw a good amount in the first preseason game.

728
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 3: It was definitely enough, right, But in terms of the

729
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 3: rotation they like to use in the bodies, and he

730
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 3: is still a rookie, right, he probably wants to continue

731
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 3: to just get those reps. I'll be curious to see

732
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Speaker 3: a player like Robinson do we see significant less of

733
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Speaker 3: him in the last two preseason games than we did

734
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Speaker 3: in the first.

735
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Speaker 2: I mean, he had what ten snaps and it was

736
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,280
Speaker 2: enough to make for a pretty good highlight reel. Baldy's

737
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 2: breakdowns Brian Baldinger just I love those too. It's just

738
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 2: so raw. Right, He's got his cell phone. It's just

739
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 2: like he's got rolling the cell phone with his voice

740
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 2: on the video, the All twenty two or whatever the

741
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 2: heck he's using, and he's just you know, given his

742
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 2: takeaways and analysis as a former lineman, it's good stuff.

743
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,959
Speaker 2: It's entertaining and you end up watching it. And even

744
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 2: though Darius sort of got a taste of preseason action,

745
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 2: there was enough there to break it down for a

746
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 2: good two minutes.

747
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 5: Again when we talk about full circle about what the

748
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 5: younger players on defense, and again we're talking about flashes,

749
00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 5: and we're talking about practice and or preseason. So there's

750
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 5: a lot that still has to be proven. But when

751
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 5: you get a Papo, you get a Robinson, you get

752
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 5: a Xavier Thomas again, Garrett Williams was mentioned, We mentioned

753
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 5: Max Melton again coming back from injury. But you know,

754
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 5: there has been significant effort by Manti asin Fort to

755
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 5: rebuild that defense, and I understand it wasn't where they

756
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 5: wanted it to be last year, and I don't know

757
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 5: if it's going to be exactly where they wanted to

758
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 5: be this year. But I also got the sense last

759
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 5: year with Nick rallis the way he runs his defense,

760
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 5: I'm not one hundred percent sure. You can't have a

761
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 5: pretty successful defense without a bunch of names that are

762
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 5: going to catch headlines on ESPN. And so I remain

763
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,439
Speaker 5: optimistic about where it's headed. You know, Danny earlier said

764
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 5: about this team trending up. You were talking about the receivers,

765
00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 5: but just in general's that's just how I do they

766
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 5: need to collect more talent?

767
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, they do.

768
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 5: And we can go back to the past rush and

769
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 5: whether they try and bring somebody in either at some

770
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,240
Speaker 5: point this year or I agree with you it's definitely

771
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 5: going to be a target next offseason. I'm not one

772
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 5: hundred percent sure they can totally wait this now, whether

773
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 5: they're gonna have to add somebody, whether it's by trade

774
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 5: or just a body or whatever.

775
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 2: But well, don't forget the calvisy insulting recommendation last week

776
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 2: here on Cardinals Underground, brought to you by Pacific Office

777
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 2: Automation that if you get to the trade deadline November fifth,

778
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 2: election day and you're six and three, yeah, then maybe

779
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 2: you invested that point if someone's available at Chase Young

780
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 2: this year's Montest Sweat for example.

781
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 5: So you know, I I'm very enthused over some of

782
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 5: the pieces they brought in. Again, a lot that has

783
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 5: to be proven, and I understand people that are.

784
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 4: Would be skeptical. I get it. I'm less skeptical, and

785
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 4: I'm a fairly glass three quarters empty kind of person.

786
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,720
Speaker 2: Darren Downer, You've earned it over the years, no doubt.

787
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 2: If nothing else, If nothing else, Nick Rowlis has what

788
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 2: he didn't have in December and January, and that is depth. Yeah,

789
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 2: at least now you're rolling on that D line Justin Jones,

790
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 2: Ball Nichols, Roy Lopez, LJ. Collier. By the way, L

791
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 2: Jane Colair still looks really good in those ones.

792
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Speaker 5: That's another one, like people don't aren't going to remember

793
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 5: it because he was out all last season, but he

794
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 5: had a good camp.

795
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 4: He's doing it again.

796
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 2: He swears that for whatever reason, the scheme in Seattle

797
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 2: was a horrendous fit for his game. It was no

798
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 2: one's fault, just wasn't a good fit. Remember, he was

799
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 2: a late first rounder selected I think almost the same

800
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 2: damn spots as Darius Robinson, so he's got a lot

801
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 2: to prove, same damn spot. Yeah I should have said, dang,

802
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 2: I'm sorry about that. We'll make that at it later.

803
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 2: Please please leave the cussing to me and the And

804
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 2: then just how genuine and sincere he was. The one

805
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 2: time he met the media's locker, He's like, hey, I

806
00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 2: appreciate MONI and JG even bringing me back less than

807
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 2: half of a game. You know, I had this ridiculous

808
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 2: fluke injury, so I appreciate them. So you can tell

809
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 2: like he's he's really dead set on rewarding them for

810
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 2: sticking by him.

811
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Speaker 3: I will say, whenever I see a pass batted down

812
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 3: at the line of scrimmage, my immediate thought is, I'm

813
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 3: assuming that's alj. Collier. Let me see if I'm right.

814
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 3: And it's like, let me prove myself wrong, because he

815
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 3: gets up there so often and he really has the

816
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 3: nose for the ball and being able to do that,

817
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 3: and so I like what we have seen from call here.

818
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 3: It really does seem like he's picked up from what

819
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 3: we saw this time last year, which is how he

820
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,760
Speaker 3: earned a starting role to begin with in Washington last season.

821
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Speaker 2: And then of course you know after that you have

822
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 2: Darius Robinson and Roy Lopez. So I mean you're pretty

823
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 2: darned deep Kyrie's tonga, especially in those like third and

824
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 2: shorter goal line, right. I mean, he's a man mountain

825
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 2: in the in the middle there. So if that enables

826
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 2: you that sort of depth to move Darius Robinson outside

827
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 2: at times, Mac Wilson goes outside at times. You know,

828
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 2: if there's one thing we know about nik Raulas, he'll

829
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 2: dial up anything and everything he can look.

830
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 3: And we've talked about this before, but the loss of

831
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 3: Bijo Jeli is huge. I really don't know how much

832
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 3: that changed to general scheme. I think having a mac

833
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 3: Wilson senior coming off the edge was still going to

834
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 3: be the plan with O Jilari or not and getting

835
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 3: creative and having different fronts. I While yes, it is

836
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 3: a loss to not have o Julari after suffering a

837
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 3: season ending knee injury, I don't know how much that

838
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 3: really is going to change the overall philosophy and the

839
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 3: game plan of what this defense was already going to do.

840
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 3: You might just need a little more of someone like

841
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 3: Xavier Thomas.

842
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 2: So Dan any other luminaries. You're gonna meet at the

843
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 2: second joint practice, Payton Manning, You're gonna wap it up

844
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 2: with Paidon Manning or anything?

845
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 4: Is he gonna show up? I gotta be honest.

846
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 5: I can't even measure up to Marvin Harrison Junior, who

847
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 5: not only was talking with his father, talking with Edgrin James,

848
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 5: but also clearly by video has some kind of bond

849
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 5: with the guy who's playing the Colts mascot, which might

850
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 5: have been the funniest video I've seen in a long

851
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,280
Speaker 5: time to see.

852
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison Junr.

853
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:11,280
Speaker 5: Talking with the Colts mascot like their long lost friends,

854
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 5: like you would do any other.

855
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 3: Players to talk back. I don't think.

856
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 4: I don't know.

857
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 5: I didn't hear sound that they they did the bro

858
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 5: hug though, so it was it was always nice.

859
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 2: I also have to see you're not on a first

860
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 2: name basis with a Colts mask. Doc. It's Blue, Oh

861
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 2: my bad Blue.

862
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:27,280
Speaker 4: Okay.

863
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 2: See Marv can call him blue, but you just call

864
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 2: him mister Colts masters. See.

865
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Speaker 5: What's what's hilarious is is like ours is big red

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Speaker 5: and they just get blue.

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Speaker 4: They don't. They can't he he doesn't even measure up.

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Speaker 2: We can't go big blue because that's the New York job.

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Speaker 2: That's true.

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Speaker 5: By the way, Paul, are you having any flashbacks to

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Speaker 5: Almost Dorm Room in two thousand and seven?

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Speaker 2: In a little bit, a little bit, so there's a little.

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Speaker 5: Bit of that original Cardinals Underground two thousand and seven

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Speaker 5: vibe in here.

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Speaker 2: We should add some sound effects of crashing trash bins

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Speaker 2: and garbage trucks coming through with the verse beepond the

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Speaker 2: reverse would be good. We should add some of those

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Speaker 2: sound effects here at the very end.

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Speaker 4: Matthew, get on that.

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Speaker 3: Really go the whole podcast, not anybody mentioning my shirt.

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Speaker 2: Uh you know, I okay, you've changed, all right? What

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Speaker 2: do we have there? She's on camera so.

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Speaker 4: You can get closer.

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Speaker 2: All I know is I see Darren with a beverage

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Speaker 2: in his hand.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what you're talking about.

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Speaker 5: That would be That would be myself and Kyle d'erni

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Speaker 5: and Grayson Choi and Danny Surrek.

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Speaker 3: So Grayson and Kyle in our content video department. This

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Speaker 3: is typically the four of us who come out to

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Speaker 3: Indy every February to cover the scouting Combine. And there's

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Speaker 3: our favorite little dive bar right around the corner from

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Speaker 3: our hotel. I believe it's truly pronounced Lock Miller's. We

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Speaker 3: pronounce we've been pronouncing it lof Miller's, but we love it.

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Speaker 3: We've gone every year, which is what three three years

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Speaker 3: at this point.

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Speaker 5: So as a group, as I have gone, I happen

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Speaker 5: to have gone to Lockmarows a few more times.

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Speaker 2: Well, okay, that's a separate podcast.

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Speaker 3: All of us had gone to the combine for other

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Speaker 3: teams or before we work together. So this shirt was

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Speaker 3: made last year. So in twenty twenty three, we didn't

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Speaker 3: even unpack our bags and night we got there, we

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Speaker 3: literally dropped them off from our hotel rooms, went to

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Speaker 3: lof Miller's, took a picture with our first drink, and

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Speaker 3: then Darren surprised the three of us by having these

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Speaker 3: shirts made when we got back to Arizona, which is

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Speaker 3: just amazing. So we wore these shirts to the combine

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Speaker 3: this year. When we went to Loft Miller's. I'm pretty

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Speaker 3: sure they all were like, who are these crazy people

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Speaker 3: that are obsessed with this place? They have a shirt

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Speaker 3: of them inside the bar, but we love it. So

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Speaker 3: since we're not staying downtown near Loft Miller's, since we

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Speaker 3: are in the general vicinity, I thought I would that good.

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Speaker 4: That's very impressive.

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Speaker 2: Just when I labeled him Darren Downer and profiled him,

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Speaker 2: he came up with something very thoughtful like that. He

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Speaker 2: defied his own Scouttery report of my profiling of him,

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Speaker 2: So for that, I apologize.

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Speaker 3: I love this shirt.

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Speaker 2: Really well done. That's that's a drop the mic walk

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