1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show 3 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: Thursday edition of the program. Appreciate all of you hanging 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: out with us as we roll closer towards the holidays. 5 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 1: We have got more polling data out that, if it 6 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: is accurate, is debilitating to Joe Biden and very positive 7 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: for Donald Trump. We are three months and a day 8 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: from the Iowa Caucuses. Three months in a day. Third 9 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: a month and a day is what I should have said. 10 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: A month and a day, thirty one days basically from 11 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: all of you out there getting an opportunity to see 12 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: the first votes cast, and those of you that are 13 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,599 Speaker 1: listening in Iowa have an opportunity to be a part 14 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: of that. Where do we think we are in Iowa? 15 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: The ongoing fallout of Israel and Hamas. There's a really 16 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: interesting piece is up analyzing why the New York Times 17 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: lost its way by the former New York Times editorial 18 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: page head. All of that is going to be really interesting, 19 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: I think to break down, but Buck, I want to 20 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: start with a couple of things. 21 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 2: One. 22 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: We'll get into this a little bit later. Big thesis 23 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 1: there's no way Donald Trump is on trial. March fourth, 24 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: I did a deep dive. I read everything. Jack Smith 25 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: is in real trouble, and we talked about this. I 26 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: think you can go back. We've continued to set the 27 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: odds the one that was the most off, and I 28 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: like him. Remember when Alan Dershowitz came out and said 29 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: all four of these are going to be completed, and 30 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,199 Speaker 1: I was like, wait a minute, what, well. 31 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:45,919 Speaker 3: No, that was great too because I was like Clay, 32 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 3: because you were saying that you thought none, I was 33 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 3: like one or two. I'm like, Clay, Dershowitz says all 34 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 3: four and you were basically saying, all due respect to Dershowitz, 35 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 3: that's insane. And then twenty four hours later, Dershwitz was like, 36 00:01:58,360 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 3: actually none of them are happening. 37 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 38 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: So if I were setting, I think I varied that 39 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: you guys can check the overall transcript as the different 40 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: news has come in. I think I got up to 41 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: one and a half setting the over under that is, 42 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: either one or two would happen, and I kind of 43 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: finessed it at one and a half. I came back 44 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: to one. I'm now at a half. So if you 45 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: told me right now, you have to gamble how many 46 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:30,119 Speaker 1: completed trials will there be of the four outstanding criminal 47 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: trials pending against Donald Trump by election day November that 48 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: as we've completed the trial there's been a result the 49 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: jury's come back. I would now go buck to a half. 50 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: I'm not sure we even complete one trial, and DC 51 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: is where Jack. 52 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 4: Smith is pushing the hardest. 53 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: But I don't know that the media has focused enough 54 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: on how debilitating the double body blows that he got 55 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: in the past couple of days have been I don't 56 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: even know that this case is going to go to 57 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: trial at all. Based on what the Supreme Court may do, 58 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 1: I would bet a massive amount of money that they 59 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: are not going to start this trial on March fourth. 60 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 1: I think the earliest they could start it is sometime 61 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: now around June or July, based on the fact that 62 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court is going to be hearing this case 63 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: having to do with the jan sixth political prisoners. I 64 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: think three hundred and sixty seven of them charged with 65 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: a Sarbines Oxley era basically trying to disrupt an official proceeding, 66 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: which has been one of the key elements that they 67 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: have charged people with for January sixth. 68 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 4: That is the federal prosecutors. I'm down down to a half. 69 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: If I were setting the over under on completed trials, 70 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: I don't think South Florida is going to get complete. 71 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 4: It's in line behind this one in DC. 72 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: I don't know that New York even matters Buck Alvin 73 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: Bragg like paperwork dispute. I don't think that one's going 74 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: to happen because it's so weak. Even the most died 75 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: in the wool left wingers in the country you have 76 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: looked at that and said, boy, I don't know that 77 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: there's much to this one. And so I circle back 78 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 1: around Atlanta. I don't think it's way too complicated. I 79 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: don't think Atlanta happens. I think it's either Jack Smith's 80 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 1: case or bust. And I'm not sure that Jack Smith's gonna. 81 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 4: Get it done. 82 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 3: I've thought that too. The only one that seemed once 83 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 3: the initial flurry or frenzy around the situations of the 84 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 3: indictments had developed a little bit, we could see, you know, 85 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 3: what was what were the counts, and what was the 86 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 3: schedule the judge gave, and that DC was the one 87 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 3: that was likely. Here's why I think we're all talking 88 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 3: about this, folks. The next thing that comes to mind 89 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 3: is the poll of swing states that's out. Yes, shows 90 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 3: Trump up in all seven swing states, and I believe 91 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 3: in most, if not all cases, beyond the margin of error. 92 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, so there is. 93 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 3: There are a couple of possibilities here. And I don't 94 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 3: want to pretend like I have the answer on this one. 95 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 3: It's more of a here's what I see, and Clay 96 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 3: tell me if I'm leaving anything out or you see 97 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 3: this differently. There is the Democrats have just completely and 98 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 3: utterly miscalculated the biggest miscalculation since twenty sixteen politically, when 99 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 3: they thought Donald Trump was going to be a layup 100 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 3: for them, right. And what I mean miscalculated, I mean 101 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:34,239 Speaker 3: with the indictments. They figured the indictments would not only 102 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 3: hurt Trump but also would sink him when they got convictions. Well, 103 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 3: if they can't get a conviction, they've made a big, 104 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 3: big mistake here. That's one possibility. The Democrats basically have 105 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 3: boxed themselves into a corner. You know, the enemy so 106 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 3: to speak, has made moves on the battlefield that could 107 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 3: lead to you know, the annihilation of their forces, or 108 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 3: there's something we're not seeing, and I don't want to 109 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 3: be that just since you're saying, oh, never underestimate them. 110 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 3: But I guess I'm kind of saying that there must 111 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 3: be some ambush, some last minute change, some something that 112 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 3: they are planning, because otherwise, if I'm a Democratic strategist 113 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 3: sitting here looking at these numbers, I'm in full blown panic. 114 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 3: I'm thinking to myself if I'm somebody who believes that 115 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 3: my White House job depends on Joe Biden, and when 116 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 3: I say Biden, Biden Kamala, same thing. That's the ticket. 117 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 3: Biden stepping aside for Kamala has always been the that's 118 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 3: still staying in the realm of what we have. That's 119 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 3: not a major change up, really, or I should say 120 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 3: that's not a major surprise. What do you see? Am 121 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 3: I missing something? Is there some possibility here we're not 122 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 3: taking into account. Let me give those people all that 123 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 3: data that came out this morning. 124 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 4: This is from. 125 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: Bloomberg and Morning Consult. So again, it's not like Donald 126 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: Trump Inc. That that released this poll. Wisconsin Trump up 127 00:06:54,400 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: for Georgia Trump up six, Michigan Trump up four, Pennsylvania 128 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: Trump up two, Nevada Trump up three, North Carolina Trump 129 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:11,679 Speaker 1: up nine and Arizona Trump up four. So they pulled 130 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: seven so called swing states, and they found Trump leading. 131 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 4: In all seven. 132 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: And if you're an electoral College map person out there, 133 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: depending on how big the states are, that he won 134 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: two of these states could get Trump in to office. 135 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 4: Three of them almost guaranteed would. 136 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: In other words, Biden won every one of these states 137 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: except North Carolina, so these were a six to one. 138 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: Biden won every close state in twenty twenty. Now Trump 139 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: is leading in all seven and he needs as few 140 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: as only two of them to again, depending like if 141 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: you got Pennsylvania and Michigan, you would win. 142 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 4: Otherwise you might need a combo of three. 143 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 3: So to me left that I left out, I'm goinn 144 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 3: of just what the obvious one is too early to matter, right, 145 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 3: that's the other, or too early to be definitive, et cetera. 146 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 3: Any you know the people that are just saying too early, 147 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 3: it's a year away. That's also a possibility. But the 148 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 3: problem with that possibility is I feel like it's too simplistic, because, well, why, 149 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 3: he's never been like this before, He's run twice before, 150 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 3: he's never been here before, so what's different now? Something's different? 151 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: Now, right, Yeah, I think that what's different is it's Biden. 152 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: I don't think this is Trump. And for people out 153 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: there who who say, oh this is this is worthless 154 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: that at this time, the polls in five, twenty fifteen, 155 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: and twenty nineteen, right, So if you were saying, hey, 156 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: we're going to do a poll in December of twenty 157 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: ninethe twenty fifteen, December of twenty nineteen massively undercounted Trump support. 158 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: So there's and I'll open up the phones because people 159 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: always want to give their conspiracy theories on oh, this 160 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: is what the polls are saying. They're trying to do this, 161 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: and then they're going to do this, Like if all 162 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: the polls are saying the same thing, all of them, 163 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: then there probably is. Right now, I think it's fair 164 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: to say a very anti Biden take. And the reason 165 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: why I would say I think the polls may be 166 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: more accurate buck is there's no unknown. Everybody knows everything 167 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: they need to know about Donald Trump, pro or con. 168 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: Everybody out there knows everything they need to know about 169 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: Joe Biden pro or con. So we're not talking about 170 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: an incumbent going up against a relatively unknown. For instance, 171 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: I think the Nicky Haley numbers where she's beating Biden 172 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: by like fourteen or fifteen points. I think Nicky Haley 173 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: would beat Biden, but I don't think she would win 174 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: by that much. I think a lot of people don't 175 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: know Nicky Haley, and she hasn't been attacked on the 176 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,719 Speaker 1: national stage like she would be attacked if she were 177 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: the nominee. They've thrown everything they can at Trump. I 178 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: honestly think they've thrown everything they can at DeSantis. I 179 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: don't think that there's that much unknown quantity for either 180 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 1: of those guys. 181 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 3: I agree with the analysis that some put out their 182 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 3: Coulter wrote about this in her column this week that 183 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 3: if the Democrats could choose an opponent, I do think 184 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 3: they in many ways would want to run against Nicki 185 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 3: Haley because I know the polls and these swing states 186 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 3: and everything else. But that to me is, yeah, that's now, 187 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 3: wait until they've actually she's never really been attacked. She's 188 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 3: untested at the national level. She was US Ambassador to 189 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 3: the United Nations, which I'm not gonna lie. It's basically 190 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 3: being on the cocktail party circuit. 191 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 4: Okay. 192 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 3: I've known some US ambassadors to the UN it's not 193 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 3: that exciting. So and you know, Governor South Carolina, Okay, 194 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 3: but the whole boeing South Carolina on the board thing. 195 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just saying, Nicki Haley's numbers are this 196 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 3: goes to your point, are the numbers of someone who 197 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 3: has not been through the full blown assault of the 198 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 3: Democrat apparatus. And I think that they think, go, oh, 199 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 3: look at Nicki Haley, She's so far ahead. Yeah, just 200 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 3: wait until they start hammering her on every network, in 201 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 3: every newspaper and going after they've hammered Trump so much, 202 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 3: their wrists are falling off, you know what I mean. 203 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 3: I mean, they can't hammer Trump anymore than they've hammered him. 204 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 3: So I mean, they're trying to put him in prison 205 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 3: for the rest of his life. There's literally nothing worse 206 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 3: they can say about Trump. And they once they compare. 207 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: You to Hitler and say that you're going, like every 208 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: negative thing is baked in on Trump. 209 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 3: Well, so they say, I mean, they try to say 210 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 3: he's worse than Hitler in some ways, you go, what's 211 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 3: worse than Hitler? 212 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, like, so I think that Trump 213 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: is is locked in and we'll open up phone lines 214 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: because I do. Every time I share a pole, people 215 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: are like, well, this is all rigged, and I'm like, okay. 216 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 4: But for what ends? 217 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 3: To what end? If it's rigged to push Biden out, 218 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 3: why is it also for anyone calling in saying that 219 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 3: Trump is going to going to win? You know, buy 220 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 3: this large margin because I assume people who think it's 221 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 3: rigged to get Biden out think that Trump would beat Biden, 222 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 3: and also that Trump is the most likely to win 223 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 3: the general election of any candidate, right, So what you know, 224 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 3: if it was get Biden out and get you know, 225 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 3: Haley or DeSantis in, then I could understand the pole 226 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 3: manipulation point. But unless somebody believes that their plan is 227 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 3: to get Biden out and to get Trump in because 228 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 3: he's easily beatable the Trump trap, which we've talked about, 229 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 3: but I've heard most people that call in and write 230 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 3: us they reject that theory. So I mean when I 231 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 3: say most people, that's just you know, reading the tea 232 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 3: leaves of who's calling in and who's checking in and 233 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 3: all the rest. But there's some there's something up now, man, 234 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 3: I mean, and if it really is Biden, you know, okay, 235 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 3: does does Kamala do better than him. I don't think so. 236 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 3: So that means they're stuck. And everyone who says, oh, 237 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 3: it'll be some unity candidate or something, that's a huge 238 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 3: I mean that really is throwing eighty yards down the hill. 239 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 3: That's a big throw. But you know that's throwing it 240 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:50,719 Speaker 3: all the way down the field into triple coverage. I 241 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 3: mean that's a total I mean, it's a it would 242 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 3: be a hell Mary. I think that they may get 243 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 3: that desperate. I mean it's a break the glass scenario. 244 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 4: Right. 245 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: When I say break the glass, I mean like the 246 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 1: fire extinguishers on the wall, and you're like, hey, if 247 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 1: we're going to go for that fire extinguisher, we got 248 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 1: to break the glass. 249 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 4: It's going to be a potential mess. That's how bad 250 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 4: things are. 251 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: I think Democrats are slowly recognizing things are really bad. 252 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,319 Speaker 4: And that's why I tie it in with their salvation. 253 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: I think in their minds was we're we're going to 254 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: charge Trump with the crime, and that's going to. 255 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 4: Change the political opinion. 256 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: But if March fourth is not happening for Jack Smith, 257 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: and I don't think it is, then they don't really 258 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: have a salvation strategy. 259 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 3: Well, this is my thinking. All along, you know, because 260 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 3: we've been talking about all the numbers. The number showed 261 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 3: very definitively. A felony conviction for Trump changes the whole 262 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 3: game in the polling scene at this point. Well, if 263 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 3: they can't get that felony conviction because they can't get 264 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 3: the trial done, now what for the left? Now what 265 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 3: for the Democrats? 266 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: And if they start, even if they started in like 267 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: July or August, buck, I think it's so late it 268 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: seems even more political than it does. Yeah, well that's 269 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: I mean, it's already election interference. But that's you know, 270 00:13:56,120 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: a few steps away from just having like Democrats stormtroopers 271 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: shut down the polling places in red states or something. 272 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 1: I mean, that's really crazy to have him drag through 273 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: a trial as the ballotser being counted. 274 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 4: But I'm curious. 275 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: I have yet to hear a conspiracy theory that makes sense, 276 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: or an analysis other than Biden is just super weak. 277 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 1: I think the most likely outcome is here, people are 278 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: not enamored of Biden, and they may not love Trump, 279 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: but they basically are deciding kind of anybody but Biden. 280 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 4: Tunnel. 281 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: The Towers Foundation delivers on its promise to do good, 282 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: never forget the sacrifices America's greatest heroes have made for US. 283 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: Heroes who risk their lives to keep our communities in 284 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: our country safe. 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And as you know, this is reaching 303 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 3: a phase where there are surrenders of some considerable numbers 304 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 3: of Moss terrorist militants in Gaza. And it has not 305 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 3: taken long at all. And I think this was ins pated. 306 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 3: Taken long for the Biden administration to start speaking out 307 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 3: of both sides of its mouth, if you will, trying 308 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 3: to placate both sides politically. I mean here was that 309 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 3: the CNN story from just about a day ago was 310 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 3: riffs between Biden and net and Yahoo spill into public view. 311 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 3: You also have front page of the Washington Post right 312 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 3: now images of stripped and humiliated Palestinians draw condemnation. And 313 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 3: to this, I just want to say, I've seen the 314 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 3: photos draw condemnation from whom who is going to be 315 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 3: criticizing Israel on this issue that knows what they're talking 316 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 3: about and understands the tactical realities on the ground, and 317 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 3: understands what it means to be fighting a war against 318 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 3: the terrorist enemy that gives no quarter, plays by no rules, 319 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 3: cares not at all about humanity or innocence or anything else. 320 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 3: In fact, specifically tries to be as violent and murderers 321 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 3: toward the civilian population as it can. I think it 322 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 3: is worth noting for everyone that not only did the 323 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 3: people of Gaza vote for Hamas, when Hamas came in, 324 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 3: they effectively murdered all their political rivals. And a hat 325 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 3: tip to Douglas Murray for once again bringing that to 326 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 3: the forefront that part of this conversation. But just let's 327 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 3: talk about this for a minute, because I mean, I'm 328 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,239 Speaker 3: staring at the photo right now, and I saw a 329 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 3: lot of this on social media, and certainly Biden has 330 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 3: fair weather friend at best to Israel. We can get 331 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 3: into that some more. It's not a surprise they're worried 332 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 3: about Michigan. They're worried about the far left of their party, 333 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 3: which views this, as we've said, in simplistic racial terms, 334 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 3: even though that's it's both morally wrong and factually inaccurate 335 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 3: at the same time. Right, it's wrong on all counts. 336 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 3: But I look at this photo and I see what's 337 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 3: going on here, and the first two things that come 338 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 3: to mind are one, Hamas really is best known well now, 339 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 3: it's best known for the October seventh attack, and will 340 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 3: be for decades to come, or for as long as 341 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 3: Hamas lasts, maybe only a few months to come, but 342 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 3: is best known for being a terrorist entity that deploys 343 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 3: suicide bombers and deployee suicide bombers. That was a legit. 344 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: My first thought when I saw this was they're making 345 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: sure that these guys are not loaded with explosives, right, absolutely. 346 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 3: I mean it's if somebody has clothing on, they can 347 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 3: And everybody who served in I Rock and Afghanistan knows 348 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 3: s vest, right, and that's what we used to call them, 349 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 3: suicide vest. They could have a little bit of C four, 350 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 3: some ball bearings or some just scrap metal attack and 351 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 3: just bam, and you know the people get killed. They 352 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 3: you know, they'll lose their sight because of getting blinded 353 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 3: by the shroud on me. It's horrible, right, Why should 354 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 3: Israeli soldiers take that chance? So part one, which Clay 355 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 3: you also you also see immediately the tactical reality is 356 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 3: you've got to have them not clothed because these people 357 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 3: will be suicide bombers. And we all know that that's 358 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 3: how they will do things, because they've shown it in 359 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 3: the past, and they still celebrate suicide bombers as martyrs 360 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 3: or shaheed to this day. The other part of this 361 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 3: I have is Israel takes prisoners. Yeah, Israel takes prisoners. 362 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 3: If Israeli soldiers were surrounded by members of Hamas, there 363 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 3: is an overwhelmingly high probability that they would be tortured, 364 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 3: mutilated and murdered and perhaps raped as well. And the 365 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 3: only reason they would keep them alive, as they have 366 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 3: in the past, is so that they could trade them 367 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 3: for other people trade them, and Israel always will give 368 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 3: you one hundred to one huge differential in how many 369 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 3: they will trade to save lives versus what the Palestinians 370 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 3: will do to me. This actually just shows that the 371 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 3: Israelis fight a very different kind of war from Hamas, 372 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 3: and it just makes once again people are condemning this. 373 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 3: Biden Administration's condemned to Clay. But I see this as 374 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 3: more moral clarity because they actually take prisoners. They're going 375 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 3: to feed them, they're going to give them medical care, 376 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 3: they're not going to torture them, they're not going to 377 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 3: execute them. 378 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: I agree, and I say more power to Israel for 379 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: doing this, and we should mention. Unfortunately, as we sit 380 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 1: here eleven days from Christmas. Did you see this story 381 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: that just has come out this morning? Hamas was planning 382 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: to carry out terror attacks on Jewish groups in Europe 383 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,719 Speaker 1: and they just German police. I'm reading from a Daily 384 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 1: Mail UK version. German police today arrested three suspected members 385 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 1: of Hamas in Berlin, accused of preparing an attack against 386 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: Jewish targets in Europe. Three men, along with another subject 387 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: suspect arrested in the Netherlands, were said to have begun 388 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 1: preparing a weapons cake cash in the German capital in Berlin, 389 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 1: where arms would be kept in a state of readiness 390 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: for attacks against Jewish institutions in Europe. They were basically 391 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: Hamas planning to go after Jewish people all over Europe. 392 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: And I would suggest Bucking you would know better than 393 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: me because you were involved in all sorts of things 394 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: like this with the CIA. I would be stunned beyond 395 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: belief if there are not Hamas organizations in the United 396 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: States connected to Hamas where they are trying to plan 397 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: their own version of these terror attacks in America right now. 398 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 4: I hope our authorities catch them. 399 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: But for people out there who say, oh, it's Israel, 400 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: I'm not really concerned about what. 401 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 4: HAMAS is doing. 402 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: HAMAS is wants to bring their attacks on Jews to 403 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: our doorstep and Europe's doorstep as well. So again, that 404 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: news story just came out of those four arrests in 405 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,959 Speaker 1: Europe with a tax planned on Jews there. So wouldn't 406 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: you be stun buck if there aren't groups trying to 407 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 1: plot to do something similar in the United States affiliated 408 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: with HAMAS and other terror organizations. 409 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 3: So I think it's it's more like it's more likely 410 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 3: that there would be groups allied with HAMAS, like Hesbela 411 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 3: is the one that comes to mind. Hesbla has sells 412 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 3: all over the world. That is a fact. It is 413 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,199 Speaker 3: well known. Hesbeola operates freely in the Triborder area of 414 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 3: South America. Hesbela has has connections to the Mexican drug cartels, 415 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 3: has connections to the Venezuelan government. Right, Hesbela is a 416 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 3: international terror actor and it has a level of sophistication 417 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 3: and monetary support that means that it's a constant threat. 418 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 3: HAMAS gets support from all these different groups. It's very 419 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 3: difficult for Palestinians to travel, so their ability to get 420 00:22:56,119 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 3: anywhere is something of a challenge. It's very difficult for 421 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 3: them to go internationally. So to me, it's more likely 422 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 3: that Hesbala cell is activated on behalf of the Palestinians 423 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 3: than say a specific Hamas cell operating. And this is 424 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 3: a likelihood thing. It's not saying that there's not a 425 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 3: Hamas sell that could get through and there aren't Palestinians 426 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 3: who would act in solidarity with Hamas or at the 427 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 3: direction of them as a terrorist entity. But you know, 428 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 3: the the bigger concern for me is really remember Hamas 429 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 3: is kind of the the the tip of the spear 430 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 3: used against Israel and the Jews. And then right, you know, 431 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 3: the bigger entity behind them were tied to them is 432 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 3: a Hesbela allied with them, and then the bigger entity 433 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 3: behind that is Iran. Right, so this all goes back 434 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 3: to Iran as the great state sponsor of terror. And 435 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 3: while we're having this conversation about you bring up the 436 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 3: risks of Hamas cell operating, Hamas engaging in terror attacks abroad. 437 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 3: You know what they're you know what they're saying over 438 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 3: at morning, Joe Clay, did you see this? Who's who's responsible? 439 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 3: Look at how long it took for the complete moral 440 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 3: perversion here to be a talking point on television. This 441 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 3: was on the Morning Joe Show. He says, well, I'll 442 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 3: let you hear from him. This is Cup twenty four. 443 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 3: Play this here. He is casting blame on Benjamin Netan 444 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 3: Yahoo for October seven. 445 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 2: You have a guy that allowed this to happen. 446 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 4: It was on his watch. 447 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 2: He asked Doha to fund hamas his government waited eight 448 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 2: hours to go down and answer the calls of women 449 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 2: being raped and children being gunned down. And he's saying, oh. 450 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 4: Well, we got to get through the war. 451 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 2: No, he's incompetent and the Israelis don't even like and 452 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 2: they want him not. The question is when are they 453 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 2: going to get the guy responsible for the worst killing 454 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 2: of Jews since a Holocaust out and bring in responsible 455 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 2: leadership that the United States can work with. 456 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna I mean, that is truly insane. Yeah, 457 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 3: we use that word sometimes, but that is get rid 458 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 3: of the guy responsible for the most Jews being killed 459 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 3: since the Holocaust, and it's the Prime Minister of Israel. 460 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 3: The not just the Prime Minister of Israel for many years, 461 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 3: by the way, a decorated veteran of the IDF who 462 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 3: lost his brother at the Intebiariate, a guy who's devoted 463 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 3: his life. Say what you will about Nanian. I'm not 464 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 3: saying guy's perfect, but the guys in Israeli patriot, you're 465 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 3: blaming him for this. I mean, could you imagine if 466 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 3: in America, Clay after nine to eleven someone said, you 467 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 3: know who we have to go find the real perpetrator 468 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 3: of nine to eleven, George W. Bush. I mean, people 469 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 3: look at you like you're completely out of your mind. 470 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 1: I think you can take it out of the terror 471 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: realm Imagine Joe Scarborough said, after a woman was brutally raped, 472 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 1: you know who's responsible for the rape the woman? 473 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 4: He would lose his job immediately, right. I mean this 474 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 4: is this has deranged. 475 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 1: Opinion from Joe Scarborough that the leader of a country 476 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: is responsible for the awful terror attack perpetrated upon them. Again, 477 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: just take it outside of the terror attack analogy. If 478 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: Joe Scarborough said, oh, you know that woman, she should 479 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 1: have known better, she shouldn't have been out after midnight. 480 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: She's the reason she got raped, he would blame the 481 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 1: victim's strategy is what I'm pointing to. He would immediately 482 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 1: lose his job and here he's blaming the president of 483 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: a country for over twelve hundred people being slaughtered in 484 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: a terror attack and saying that he's responsible for it. 485 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 3: No. 486 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: No, the person who does the violent crime is responsible 487 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 1: for the violent crime. 488 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 4: No one else. 489 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 1: If Hamas did it engage in the most brutal terror 490 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 1: attack since the Holocaust, net and Yahoo wouldn't be at 491 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 1: war with Hamas right now. Hamas caused all of this. 492 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: The violent predators caused the violent predator predation. 493 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 4: And so. 494 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: I probably shouldn't be surprised that you're going to try 495 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: to shift the blame and say, oh, Israel's responsible now 496 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: for what happened to them. Because what this would be 497 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: a great question for Joe Scarborough if you were ever 498 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: brave enough to actually come on a show like this. 499 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: So you think what that net Nyaho should have attacked 500 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: Hamas and wipe them out before Hamas attacked Israel. 501 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,360 Speaker 4: Do you know what Joe Scarborough. 502 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 1: Would have said if Netanyahu had opened up attacks on 503 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: Hamas to try to prevent an attack like this, Oh, 504 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: Israel's the aggressor. 505 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 4: This is completely unacceptable. So I would just. 506 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: Love for Joe Scarborough to explain to me what he 507 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: believes Benjamin Netanyah, who should have done that, would make 508 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: net and Yaho not responsible for this, because if NETANYAHUO 509 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: had attacked in an earlier raid Hamas because he believed 510 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: they were about to be attacking Israel, then people like 511 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: Joe Scarborough would have gone on and said, look at 512 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: all these innocent dead people in Gaza. This blood is 513 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 1: all on Benjamin Netyah. 514 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 3: Look at how look at what a quizzling Scarborough and 515 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 3: his little table of cronies are. The man responsible for 516 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 3: the October seventh atrocity is Benjamin Nutt. You heard his words, 517 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 3: I played his words. He's responsible for it. 518 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 5: This is how morally obtuse the mainstream Democrat party is 519 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 5: on this issue, and this is how they're willing to 520 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,439 Speaker 5: bend the need to wokeness and race obsession and the 521 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 5: pretense that, oh, they care so much about the lives 522 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 5: lost in Gaza and all these people. 523 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 3: What about all the lives lost in Gaza. Ask anyone 524 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 3: whoever brings that to you, anyone who ever takes that position, 525 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 3: how many lives have been lost in the Many Civil 526 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 3: War in the last decade, murdered, raped, killed in bombings, 527 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 3: and how many? How many have been lost in the 528 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 3: Many Civil War. They will have no idea, and you 529 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 3: can tell them, well, it's a couple of hundred thousand, 530 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 3: not ten thousand, which is what they're saying in Gaza 531 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 3: fourteen thousand. It's a few one hundred thousand Muslim lives lost. 532 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 3: All the protests, Oh, it's Muslims killing them. So you know, 533 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 3: the UN doesn't doesn't care. 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PHX on 557 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 3: air dot Com Today. 558 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: One truth revealed after another Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Oo, 559 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: welcome back in our number three Thursday edition of the program. 560 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: We'll want to encourage all of you to make sure 561 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: that you download the podcast, Go subscribe Clay Travis buck 562 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: Sexton Show. You can give us five stars while you 563 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: are there, and you can also get the fabulous work 564 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: of Tutor Dixon, Carol Markowitz and more to come in 565 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four calendar year. If you want to 566 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: make sure that you don't miss a moment as many 567 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: of you along with me, we'll be traveling during the 568 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: holiday season. That way you will ensure that you don't 569 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: miss anything, including our good friend Michael Berry, who will 570 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: be hosting from down at our Monster affiliate in the 571 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: Houston area. Michael Berry will have the show during the 572 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: week of Christmas, and we thank him for taking care of. 573 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 3: That bizarre of talk, and argued, Buddy does a great, 574 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 3: great show, so be sure you tune in when he's 575 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 3: guest hosting. 576 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 4: No doubt, absolutely fantastic. Buck. 577 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: I was going to talk about the fact that we're 578 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: a month and a day away from Iowa, because I 579 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: do find that fascinating. But as I'm looking down, our 580 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: staff just found a couple of clips that I wanted 581 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: to play for both of you, both of you, for 582 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: all of you. 583 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 3: Hopefully more than Buck and my mom listening. 584 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 4: I think. 585 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: What we have entered into as we prepare for twenty 586 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: twenty four is an era of lying that we have 587 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: never really seen for media propagandists. And it's one thing 588 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: to say, hey, because you could make this argument, I 589 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: don't think Joe Biden should be impeached because I think 590 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: impeachable offenses should be reserved for the highest level of 591 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: crimes and misdemeanors, and whatever Joe Biden did, in your mind, does. 592 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 4: Not rise to that level. 593 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: I think you could say it as a reasonable person 594 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: about a variety of different political scandals over the last 595 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: fifty years in America, that we want to reserve impeachment 596 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: for the absolute or scandal. 597 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 4: Certainly Democrats didn't do that. 598 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: They impeached Donald Trump for asking on a phone call 599 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: about the corruption that we now know was involved in 600 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden getting on the Bearisma board for Ukraine. So 601 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: the standard that Democrats have put forward for impeachment is 602 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: incredibly low. 603 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 4: Certainly Joe Biden would exceed that. 604 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: But I wanted to play a couple of cuts that 605 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: have to do first from our friends at the view, 606 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: Anna Navarro, who is ostensibly I think still is she 607 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: still a Republican buck like I know she's been a 608 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: Republican in the past. 609 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 3: Ever stood for as an adult, and you totally switch 610 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 3: sides and you attack all your former friends. To really 611 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 3: make it as slimy as possible, Clay, you got to 612 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 3: say you're an independent. That's what they do o because 613 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 3: if they just go full turncoat, you know what I mean, this. 614 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: Is the way that it goes. Here's what Anna Navarro 615 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: said on the view. She said, what Republicans are trying 616 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: to focus on with Joe Biden and what they're trying 617 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: to impeach him for is just being a really good father. 618 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: Listen to cut twenty three. 619 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 6: Crime is being Hunter Biden's father and being Hunter Biden's 620 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 6: very loving father. Yeah, very good father, very supportive father. 621 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 4: Look, did he. 622 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 6: Use his last name to make money to monch? Did 623 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 6: he monetize on Joe Biden's last name, Yes he did. 624 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 3: That's not a crime. 625 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 6: Did Hunter Biden cheat on his taxes? Yes, he did so, 626 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,959 Speaker 6: he has admitted it. He paid it back. He paid 627 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,280 Speaker 6: it back with six hundred thousand dollars penalty. Fifteen percent 628 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 6: of Americans cheat on their taxes. Say that again, fifteen 629 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 6: point five percent of Americans so cheat on the taxes, 630 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 6: and you know how many get prosecuted less. 631 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 4: Than one up. 632 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: Okay, first of all, this is so dumb, buck, there's 633 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 1: a cheating on your taxes. This is the argument that 634 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: I think is important to note. Fifteen percent of Americans 635 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 1: don't fail to file a tax return. Even imbeciles file 636 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 1: tax returns. Hunter Biden did not file a tax return 637 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,320 Speaker 1: in thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen eighteen. 638 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 4: I believe nineteen really. 639 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 3: Any charge for that? 640 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,760 Speaker 1: I thought, Yeah, he didn't get I think I'm accurate 641 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 1: on that team. 642 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 4: Look it up. 643 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: He didn't get charged at all or even made to 644 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: repay all of the taxes that he cheated on. I 645 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: think it was for the twenty fourteen twenty fifteen years, 646 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 1: but it might have been twenty thirteen twenty fourteen, the 647 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 1: two years that they walled off. 648 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 4: So again, when they say. 649 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: People are cheating on their taxes, I think to a 650 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 1: large extent, that is a disagreement about which taxes are 651 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: owed and the irs, and you can go back and forth, 652 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 1: you can get audited like I am. The IRS came 653 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: to me buck and said I owed thirty nine dollars 654 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 1: and seventy five cents in extra taxes in twenty twenty one, 655 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: which I paid thirty nine dollars and seventy if I 656 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 1: can't even go to Chick fil A for what they 657 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 1: said I owe him in back taxes. 658 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 4: I cut the check. 659 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 1: I think I made it for thirty nine seventy six 660 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 1: just to make sure that I had covered all the bases. 661 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: Maybe get a one cent refund there. That's not at 662 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: all what's going on. And people are not charging Joe 663 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: Biden with being a good dad. Do you see the 664 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:02,720 Speaker 1: crowd cheer like, oh yeah thereafter no, no Joe Biden. 665 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 1: It appears, based on a lot of evidence, allowed his 666 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: son to engage in representation of America's biggest geopolitical adversaries 667 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 1: and or flash points, get paid tens of millions of dollars. 668 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 1: Maybe get some of that money to him because nobody's 669 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 1: talking about the fact that Hunter Biden withdrew two thousand 670 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,479 Speaker 1: dollars in cash every day for multiple years. Think about 671 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,760 Speaker 1: how hard that is to do. Everybody out there listening, 672 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,280 Speaker 1: how many of you have ever even woudrawn two thousand 673 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: dollars in cash from an ATM, much less do it 674 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 1: every day. I think there's a possibility Hunter's given his 675 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 1: dad cash because it's hard to track, but two thousand 676 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 1: dollars a day for years, Hooker's getting paid everybody else. 677 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 1: Nobody's coming after Joe Biden because he's a dad. It's 678 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 1: just a why And certainly they're not coming after him 679 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 1: because he's a good dad. 680 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 3: This is something along the lines of plausible deniability for 681 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 3: the Demo standard Democrat voter. And what it is, what 682 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 3: it's turned into is this allows them to say, Okay, 683 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 3: Hunter Biden broke the law, fine, but it's sad. He 684 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 3: deserves our sympathy. And in fact, he's only being prosecuted 685 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 3: for political reasons because why did they lapse on all 686 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 3: these other charges and it has nothing to do with 687 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 3: Joe Biden. And that's what really matters. This is the line, right, 688 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 3: this is what they can because simultaneously there's going to 689 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 3: be a massive cognitive dissonance with Oh, it's so terrible 690 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 3: they're in a Hunter Biden. The four indictments of Trump, however, 691 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,359 Speaker 3: are totally on the up and off, and those are 692 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,319 Speaker 3: just law and order and not political at all. You 693 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 3: have to have a problem in the core functioning of 694 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,359 Speaker 3: your brain to think that those two things are true. 695 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,800 Speaker 3: At the same time, there is a real cognitive dissonance 696 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 3: that they're going to have to embrace. But Clay, this 697 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 3: just creates the narrative. It's like I said at the start, 698 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 3: what a lie A lot over and over again. That's 699 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:56,840 Speaker 3: a strategy. 700 00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,799 Speaker 1: Even al Navarro, they are saying he paid his back 701 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 1: to no he didn't. A Biden crony lawyer in Hollywood 702 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 1: paid the back taxes for Hunter, and now Hunter's paying 703 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 1: it back with his finger paintings. One of the funniest 704 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: things from Hunter Biden's discussion yesterday, I thought, buck was 705 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 1: and maybe we can just pull this sentence. Hunter said, 706 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 1: my dad was never involved in my business ventures or 707 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: my artwork. 708 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 3: And I'm like, well, he was trying. I do think 709 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:27,799 Speaker 3: he was trying to be funny with that. 710 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was trying, but I mean it is funny 711 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 1: to think like, oh, yeah, like he's hitting five hundred 712 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 1: thousand dollars for as you've said, I think accurately his 713 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 1: finger paintings. All right, that was one clip. Here's the 714 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 1: other clip, because I think we have to keep hammering 715 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 1: this home. The NAACP said that people want Claudineaey, the 716 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 1: president of Harvard University, held responsible for her plagiarism and 717 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,400 Speaker 1: her inadequate defense of Jewish people on campus because they 718 00:38:55,400 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 1: are white supremacists, and I thought, maybe this is just THEACP. 719 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 1: The reality is no, no, no accuracies. She said, Also, 720 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 1: this is all about racist propaganda campaigns. 721 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:12,399 Speaker 4: Listen to cut twenty six. 722 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 7: Well, when you think about the fact that Harvard, this 723 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:19,360 Speaker 7: nation's oldest university, had about a three hundred and seventy 724 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 7: year explicit racial quota of only hiring white men to 725 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,800 Speaker 7: be the president. It's laughable to think that the first 726 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 7: ever black woman, following that unbroken line of white racial quotas, 727 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 7: is the one who's unqualified. I mean, this is kind 728 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 7: of the beauty of how racism works. If you are 729 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 7: black and you don't achieve, if you don't succeed at 730 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 7: the highest echelons, it's because you're lazy and you're not 731 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 7: smart enough. If you do achieve, and you do succeed, 732 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 7: and you do rise to the top of your profession, 733 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 7: it's because you didn't deserve it. So, as Tony Morrison said, 734 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 7: this is all really a distraction. Chris Ruffo is not 735 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:55,840 Speaker 7: a serious person. 736 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 3: Oh, he's definitely a serious person. Start with that. 737 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 1: So Tony Morrison's been dead for a long time, right, 738 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:05,320 Speaker 1: the Nobel Prize laureate. 739 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, she's a great writer. 740 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 1: But Tony Morrison didn't comment on anything having to do 741 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,720 Speaker 1: with the Harvard unless she came back from the dead. 742 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 1: Tony Morrison is a Nobel Prize winning author, very talented, 743 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 1: but she did not comment as Tony Morrison said what 744 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 1: she came back from the dead and commented on the contrary. Also, 745 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:28,239 Speaker 1: white woman at Penn lost her job was that racism. 746 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 1: White woman at MIT still has her job. 747 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 3: To contradictory ideas in your head at the same time 748 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 3: and believing somehow that they're both true even though they 749 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 3: contradict each other. And we have yet another example of 750 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,280 Speaker 3: this here Nicole Hannah Jones when she says the point 751 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 3: about a black woman earning her position at say Harvard 752 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 3: or a very senior and prominent post. Okay, if you 753 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,839 Speaker 3: ask Nicole Hanna Jones, should we have affirmative action where 754 00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,320 Speaker 3: we change standards and change test scores and change academic 755 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 3: requirements for professors and scholars, she will say absolutely so 756 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 3: in the same you know, the same individual. This is 757 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,839 Speaker 3: the cognitive distenance point. They will say, change the standards 758 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 3: to elevate certain people. And then when you say, okay, 759 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 3: so you're changing the standards to elevate to those people, 760 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 3: they say, no, that's racist. How dare you can't be both? 761 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,279 Speaker 3: You're either changing the standards to help or you're not. 762 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 1: And also, at some point, don't we just have to 763 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 1: be responsible for what we do instead of what people 764 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 1: did hundreds or thousands of years ago. I just I'm sorry. 765 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,319 Speaker 1: I was born in nineteen seventy nine. Buck, what you were? 766 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 1: You born eighty one? Eighty two? 767 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 3: Eighty one? Yeah, okay, so you're eighty one. 768 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,920 Speaker 1: You're about to have a birthday, I think, right, I 769 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 1: am get up there, Happy early, happy early birthday. 770 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:46,839 Speaker 4: So I'm set. 771 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,279 Speaker 3: I mean the point where I started to forget my age? Actually, yeah, 772 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:53,359 Speaker 3: what I mean, I'm like, I don't really pay close attention. Uh, 773 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 3: seventy nine eighty one. I legitimately believe this is true. 774 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,839 Speaker 3: I think anybody your or mind's rough age has had 775 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 3: an equal chance at success in America. Now, everybody doesn't 776 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,959 Speaker 3: start the same place, right, because the actual best privilege 777 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:17,160 Speaker 3: anyone can have, beyond a shadow of a doubt. 778 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 4: Two parents. 779 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 1: Right, if you're fortunate enough to grow up in a household, 780 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:27,759 Speaker 1: the data reflects with both of your parents married, then 781 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,759 Speaker 1: you are getting a head start, no doubt about that. 782 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,040 Speaker 1: Your parents both married, they both have incomes, they both work, 783 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 1: and or one stays home. 784 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:36,720 Speaker 4: Whatever. 785 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 1: You got a two parent household, do you have a 786 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 1: huge advantage? I legitimately do not. Believe based on my 787 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 1: entire life. I was a public school kid K through 788 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 1: twelve Nashville, Tennessee. 789 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 3: I don't think anybody around my. 790 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:53,319 Speaker 1: Age that race impacted whether or not you were successful. 791 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 1: I legitimately one billion percent believe that. And I actually 792 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,840 Speaker 1: think if you do believe that race impacted whether you 793 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 1: were successful or not, that you are likely to have 794 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 1: benefited from affirmative action, that your race has elevated you 795 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 1: to a level that you would not have attained but 796 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 1: for affirmative action. I think that one hundred percent, and 797 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:22,320 Speaker 1: I would love to hear someone explain why I'm wrong 798 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,400 Speaker 1: when right now in America today, the stat that no 799 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 1: one can overcome you say it to a left winger, 800 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 1: their face breaks. Basically, I'll give you two one Asian 801 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,320 Speaker 1: men and women out earn anybody. 802 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 4: In the United States of America. 803 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 1: If this were a racist country, how would that be possible. Second, 804 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 1: immigrants from African countries within a generation out earn white 805 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:57,279 Speaker 1: people in America. If America were a racist country, how 806 00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,160 Speaker 1: would both of those things be true? That would be 807 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,920 Speaker 1: awfully difficult to accomplish in a racist country. Now, if 808 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 1: you want to argue in the nineteen thirties, in the 809 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:11,440 Speaker 1: nineteen forties, certainly in the eighteen fifties, that America was 810 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:12,280 Speaker 1: a racist country. 811 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 4: Yes, but the whole world was racist. But why not 812 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 4: focus on what's going on. 813 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:20,239 Speaker 1: In America today as opposed to what happened hundreds of 814 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,920 Speaker 1: years ago or outside the lifetime of the vast majority 815 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,399 Speaker 1: of Americans. The average American today buck is thirty four. 816 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 1: I believe that's correct. The average American was born in 817 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:33,600 Speaker 1: like nineteen eighty six. A lot of you out there 818 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 1: remember nineteen eighty six pretty well. Do you think nineteen 819 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:37,920 Speaker 1: eighty six to now, do you think America has been 820 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,080 Speaker 1: a country that's steeped in awful racism? 821 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 4: Of course it isn't. 822 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,839 Speaker 1: And that's why the eternal lie, the foundational lie that's 823 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 1: being sold right now, is that America is a fundamentally 824 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:48,280 Speaker 1: racist country. 825 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:49,560 Speaker 4: It's just not. It's not even close. 826 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:54,880 Speaker 3: Maybe the least racist country in the entire world. I agree. 827 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 3: You know, a couple weeks ago, I had to spend 828 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 3: time with Dutch Mendenhall. He's the co founder and CEO 829 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 3: of N Diversified, and he's creating opportunities for investors to 830 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 3: learn about and take part in alternative investments that are 831 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,279 Speaker 3: meant to create wealth and allow you to enjoy the 832 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,000 Speaker 3: American dream on your terms. Dutch earned my trust, so 833 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,879 Speaker 3: I actually chose to make an investment myself with Rad 834 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 3: Diversified's help, and Dutch and I spent time together on 835 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 3: stage over a three day weekend with hundreds of people 836 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,960 Speaker 3: that came out in Tampa. Chucker Carlson was a keynote speaker, 837 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 3: my friend Lisa Booth from Fox News, and so many 838 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,759 Speaker 3: others joined the conversation. Dutch had a good twenty twenty three. 839 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 3: He became an author and wrote a book titled Money Shackles. 840 00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 3: He takes on the topic of carrying debt. That's Dutch's 841 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,760 Speaker 3: phrase for it, money shackles, car loan, home, loan, school, 842 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,279 Speaker 3: loan Well. Dutch gives you his strategies on how to 843 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,520 Speaker 3: use debt to your advantage. Dutch is on a mission. 844 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 3: He wants you to understand the future of alternative investments. 845 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,120 Speaker 3: Get ready for the redefined American Dream with the book 846 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:55,520 Speaker 3: Money Shackles. Learn more at rad I'm sorry Tharrad dot com. 847 00:45:55,880 --> 00:46:01,400 Speaker 3: That's t E R A D the rad rad dot Com. 848 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 3: Break free from your money shackles today. 849 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:09,360 Speaker 1: The supply chain of smarts, sanity and truth Uninterrupted. 850 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 4: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. 851 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:16,360 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. I wanted 852 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 1: to thank everyone out there as we come up near 853 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:23,520 Speaker 1: the end of twenty twenty three and get ready for 854 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:28,399 Speaker 1: what will certainly be and absolutely bonkers twenty twenty four. 855 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,799 Speaker 1: Both Bucke and myself have had an awesome time hanging 856 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:35,799 Speaker 1: out with you, and it's nice to see that we 857 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 1: are being well received here as we're coming into what 858 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,680 Speaker 1: your next year will be, year number four, not the 859 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 1: full year, but we started in twenty one. We'll be 860 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:47,319 Speaker 1: entering in the fourth year obviously behind these microphones. And 861 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:51,359 Speaker 1: Barrett News Media has a big industry poll that they 862 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:57,560 Speaker 1: do of the best news radio shows. And you know, 863 00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,719 Speaker 1: I hate to brag and draw attention to myself as 864 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 1: all you out there listening, no, and as Buck has 865 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:06,640 Speaker 1: certainly learned, we were number one, so that's pretty great. 866 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,440 Speaker 1: Sean Hannity was number two, so a lot of you 867 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,520 Speaker 1: are listening to us. And Shawn Sean, I'm not sure 868 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 1: if he has WiFi on his new private jets, so 869 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,480 Speaker 1: he may or may not have seen this yet. So 870 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,960 Speaker 1: I think he'll probably do fine here as I saw 871 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,440 Speaker 1: the Santis come out and say, hey, Sean Hannity's the 872 00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 1: best at hosting debates. We want to do a debate 873 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,879 Speaker 1: with Nicki Haley. In all seriousness. Shawn's in the same 874 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,480 Speaker 1: studio with us in New York. He's phenomenal, and I 875 00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,360 Speaker 1: think this is a credit to the work of Julie Talbot. 876 00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:36,600 Speaker 4: But they've got. 877 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:41,000 Speaker 1: Us one, Sean two, and in third place Glenn Beck, 878 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,719 Speaker 1: and that is the morning through the afternoon, and then 879 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,920 Speaker 1: they've got our friend Jesse Kelly at eight. So the 880 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,800 Speaker 1: lineup that many of you are hearing distributed by Premiere Radio. 881 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,920 Speaker 1: Our boss Julie Talbot's done a fabulous job. Were excited 882 00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:02,600 Speaker 1: to have this opportunity and to see one, two, three, 883 00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:07,400 Speaker 1: US Hannity and then Glenn Beck is pretty awesome and 884 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 1: we're having fun and I think hopefully only the best still. 885 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:15,520 Speaker 1: The Comebuck twenty four is going to be potentially the 886 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:20,719 Speaker 1: wildest election year combined with everything else that truly any 887 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,520 Speaker 1: of us have lived through, and we can't wait to 888 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:26,040 Speaker 1: spend three hours every day with all of you throughout 889 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 1: what is going to be a Bonker's twenty twenty four. 890 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 3: Thank you all for listening and for giving us a shot. Obviously, 891 00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,319 Speaker 3: trying to follow in the steps of the greatest of 892 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:40,120 Speaker 3: all time is a major task. And as I'm fond 893 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,240 Speaker 3: of saying, nobody can fill Russia's shoes. But Clay hopped 894 00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,120 Speaker 3: into one shoe, I hopped into the other. And we're 895 00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,279 Speaker 3: moving as fast as we can for the benefit of 896 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,359 Speaker 3: this audience and doing the best job we can every day. 897 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,120 Speaker 3: So it's very gratifying to get a little shout out, 898 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,400 Speaker 3: and you know, we just think, just bye, what our 899 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,560 Speaker 3: friend Jesse Kelly says, we are humbled by this. We 900 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:02,280 Speaker 3: are humbled, not the opposite bumble. 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