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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. All right, everybody, we are back. We

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Speaker 1: are here with you all, and we're having You might

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Speaker 1: have guessed based on the very rapid change in content

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Speaker 1: that occurred there all of a sudden, because I know

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Speaker 1: there are so many Chris Christie fans in this audience.

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Speaker 1: We had a Chris Christi interview plague out of nowhere,

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Speaker 1: and Clay was back from Australia. No, we're having a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a tech issue. And by a little bit,

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Speaker 1: I mean I think that I'm just grateful that so

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Speaker 1: far it's not an EMP attack. That's what I've been

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Speaker 1: You know, there's no mushroom cloud anywhere. There's no EMP

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Speaker 1: that I'm aware of. But we did get Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: I am here just so you know, I am. I

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Speaker 1: to bring anyone up to speed, who is joining us

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Speaker 1: in progress. We had the biggest news story of the

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Speaker 1: last twenty four hours by far. Is this Supreme Court

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Speaker 1: for the State of Colorado decision that came down saying

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Speaker 1: that Donald Trump will be taken off or should be

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Speaker 1: taken off the ballot for the presidential election in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four. This is utter and complete madness, but that

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Speaker 1: is I suppose to be expected given where the Democrats

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Speaker 1: are emotionally when it comes to Donald Trump. They will

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Speaker 1: do absolutely anything as we have been discussing to stop

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Speaker 1: him from being president. They have convinced themselves and I'm

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Speaker 1: starting to worry that the balance has actually shifted. The

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Speaker 1: really believe, really truly believe this stuff, instead of just

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Speaker 1: those who are being difficult in the process and cynical

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Speaker 1: with it. So when you're dealing with true believers, then

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Speaker 1: I think you have to recognize that whatever they can do,

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Speaker 1: they will do whatever they can pull off here to

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Speaker 1: do everything and anything in there in their hands. That's

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Speaker 1: I still think, yeah, we talked about this in the past,

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Speaker 1: getting removed from the ballot, this isn't all of it.

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Speaker 1: There's going to be something else. Yeah, there's the four indictments. Yes,

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Speaker 1: there's the ballot state challenges under the Constitution and the

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Speaker 1: insurrection that they claim happened and all that, but there's

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Speaker 1: other curveballs coming our way. To be sure, we're going

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Speaker 1: to try to get back online here with both calls, guests, audio,

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Speaker 2: We don't need.

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Speaker 4: I do not believe Donald Trump should be prevented from

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Speaker 4: being president United States by any court. I think he

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Speaker 1: There you had a couple of the GOP contenders weighing

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Speaker 1: and welcome back to Clay and Buck. Just Buck today

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Speaker 1: and I am here with all of you plays on

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Speaker 1: vacation in Australia with the FAM. You heard Nicki Haley there,

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Speaker 1: expect them to really, which is, I don't want a

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Speaker 1: court to do this, but you know, guys should be president.

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Speaker 1: Nicki Haley has been surging visa Iron de Santis recently,

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Speaker 1: But the one who, by far, and this is entirely unsurprising,

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Speaker 1: Trump side of this argument in the Colorado port is

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Speaker 1: Vivek Ramaswami, who is pledging to take his name off

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Speaker 1: the ballot Play twelve. I will withdraw.

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Speaker 5: I pledge to withdraw from the Colorado GOP primary ballot

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Speaker 5: unlessen until Trump's name is restored, and I demand that

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Speaker 5: Rona Santis and Chris Christi and Nikki Haley do the

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Speaker 5: same thing or else. These Republicans are simply complicit in

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Speaker 5: this unconstitutional attack on the way we conduct our constitutional republic.

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Speaker 1: I refuse to be complicit in that.

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Speaker 5: I think what they're doing is wrong, and I think

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Speaker 5: it's up to Republicans to step up and stand up

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Speaker 1: I mean, why not just demand that they all drop out,

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Speaker 1: then what is this? I oughtest come on, vivek. Look,

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Speaker 1: leveg is not going to be president, so he loses

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Speaker 1: nothing by saying he's taking his name off the ballot.

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Speaker 1: In Colorado, the Supreme Court is going in on this,

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Speaker 1: and that is the way the process actually actually goes.

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Speaker 1: So I think the demands of other people to to

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Speaker 1: is is a little a little much right now. I

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Speaker 1: Trump campaign to fight against vigorously and to prevail. No

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Speaker 1: guarantees in life, but that is how I see this

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Speaker 1: likely going and playing out. But there's clearly an effort

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Speaker 1: all of this. They they isn't that so fascinating? I mean,

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Speaker 1: otherwise the American people might actually vote him back into power. Oh,

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Speaker 1: they don't see that there's any disconnect there, right, And remember,

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Speaker 1: double standard in it. They want the rule of law, individuals,

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Speaker 1: is blind. All that stuff, right, But what they actually

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Speaker 2: To see to take that comment and then to immediately

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Speaker 6: Here's here's here, here's here's the problem with that question

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