WEBVTT - “I CAN’T TRUST MY BABY MAMA” 

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Hello, hey, Lyral, what's up?

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<v Speaker 2>What's up? Man? What's your name?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh? My name is Sweet James.

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<v Speaker 2>Sweet James, Sweet James. To what do I owe the honor?

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<v Speaker 2>Sweet James?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I was hoping I'm a text call your attention,

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<v Speaker 1>and luckily you did.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know what you texted me. Uh I

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<v Speaker 2>just called this number randomly.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no way, I'll feel honor. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Hmmm, well, what did you text me, Sweet James?

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot to be honest, it was a while ago.

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<v Speaker 2>But are you not You didn't forget. I know exactly

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<v Speaker 2>what you texted me. You texted me and you said

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<v Speaker 2>your show should be canceled.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh so you also lied to me and you say

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't see it, but you did see it.

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<v Speaker 2>I did. I lied to you. I lied to you

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<v Speaker 2>because I wanted you to. I wanted to hear it

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<v Speaker 2>from you.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't uh you know, I felt about it that

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<v Speaker 1>way when I first left into you. Don't get me wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>I did. But then like I just kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>got addicted to the show. I'm like, oh man, this

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<v Speaker 1>is some real life ship right here, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude, I want to Here's the thing is I want

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<v Speaker 2>to like I called you, And then there was another

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<v Speaker 2>guy who was like, you need to get a real job,

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<v Speaker 2>and I want to have a conversation with someone who

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<v Speaker 2>like just actually genuinely really hates me. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>would be an interesting conversation, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to I want to fight someone on here.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything it's like it's always you know, therapy is nice,

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<v Speaker 2>but it'd be I wanted. I wanted. I like an argument.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to argue with someone.

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<v Speaker 1>You see, hate. Hate is such a strong word. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it's not hate.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, well, sorry, go ahead, I want to let

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<v Speaker 2>you finish.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I was gonna say, I think it was more

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<v Speaker 1>of like I said, at first, when I first started

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<v Speaker 1>listening to your podcast, I didn't like open my mind

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<v Speaker 1>to what you were trying to actually, you know, help

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<v Speaker 1>well I would say help people out, but you were

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<v Speaker 1>actually trying to listen to people and then give them

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<v Speaker 1>a bias if you can. At first, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh man, this this guy is just you know, I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>exposing people in their things. But then like you can't

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<v Speaker 1>really expose them because they're the one calling. So I

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to Like I was, I was like, let

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<v Speaker 1>me see what you know, what this is about. And

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<v Speaker 1>I started going from episode to episode to episode, and

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<v Speaker 1>they just kind of got deeper and deeper and help

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<v Speaker 1>people have all these real life problems. And it made

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<v Speaker 1>me think, like, oh man, Like I I'm complaining about

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<v Speaker 1>the littlest shit, but there's people out there in the

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<v Speaker 1>real world that actually going through shit. And that's why,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, slowly started off getting uh, the attention of

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<v Speaker 1>listening to your show. I'm just like, oh man, I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta be real really lucky to be where I'm at

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<v Speaker 1>and and appreciate the little things because some people have

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<v Speaker 1>really bad you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So what's going on with you, sweet James?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, I I've been doing this better.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I did went through some ship like two years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>three years ago, but I'm doing better. Uh two three

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, man, I I'm my fucking baby. Mama cheated

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<v Speaker 1>on me and she fucked this guy while we're still

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<v Speaker 1>living together, and she slept over at the guy's house

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<v Speaker 1>while we were still living together. That really fucked me up.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, I got I got the press. I

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<v Speaker 1>became an alcoholic just to drown my demons. That led

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<v Speaker 1>to a d d U I and that was like

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<v Speaker 1>my wake up in jail.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, fuck, I have this kid and he's

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<v Speaker 1>relying on me and I'm fucking here in the stale.

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<v Speaker 1>So that really woke me up. And I just been

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<v Speaker 1>kind of you know, I'm not saying I was sober,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't. I don't. I barely drink now. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's definitely changed me a lot. And right now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in a good spot. I have a good job, I

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<v Speaker 1>have my family that supports me with my kid. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saving the money. I'm looking to get my own place.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been great, man, I can't complain.

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<v Speaker 2>How long ago were you in jail?

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<v Speaker 1>Just like like a night, like a day type of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>How long ago, dude?

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<v Speaker 1>I was like twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, all right, So it's been a couple of years.

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<v Speaker 1>And the fucked up thing was that it was my

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<v Speaker 1>mom's birthday that day and I got sucked up that night,

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<v Speaker 1>so it wasn't a good birthday present from my mom.

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<v Speaker 2>So you got a good job now, and you've got

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<v Speaker 2>families helping take care of your kid. How old are

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<v Speaker 2>your kid?

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<v Speaker 1>He's four, man, he's gonna be five in April. He's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go to school this year, so time going by fast.

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<v Speaker 1>Once you have a kid, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, Wow, how old are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm twenty eight? Man?

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<v Speaker 2>Cool?

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<v Speaker 1>Cool?

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<v Speaker 2>And what's up with the mom?

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, dude. I was just talking about it with my

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<v Speaker 1>homie last night, so I don't want to put it

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<v Speaker 1>out there. But she her mom. When we started dating,

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<v Speaker 1>she let me live with her and my baby mama

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<v Speaker 1>for a little bit. But I thought they were nice

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<v Speaker 1>and cool at first, but then I kind of really

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<v Speaker 1>started seeing what was going on with her family. It

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<v Speaker 1>was just like a lot of trauma back then, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I was like, all right, well, we need to

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<v Speaker 1>get out of here. So I got an apartment, Me

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<v Speaker 1>and my baby Ama moved to the apartment. But then

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<v Speaker 1>I slowly started saying that she was like being the

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<v Speaker 1>same as her mom, and she will tell me, She'll

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<v Speaker 1>be like, hey, I don't want to be like my mom.

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<v Speaker 1>So I started doing like, like, you know, like let

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<v Speaker 1>me know. But at the time, I was like, who

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<v Speaker 1>am I, you know, to tell you how to live

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<v Speaker 1>your life. And then once we had our kid, it

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<v Speaker 1>was it was kind of hard because she so her mom.

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<v Speaker 1>She uh, you know whatever. She has a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>kids sold from different dads, so she kind of grew

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<v Speaker 1>up around that kind of trauma and I didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>that for our kid, and apparently she did it either

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<v Speaker 1>at the time. So I try to work that out.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's just those people that are so traumatized that

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<v Speaker 1>they don't see it, you know what I mean, They

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<v Speaker 1>don't see how how fucked up their life was. She

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<v Speaker 1>just thinks it's any other regular day, if that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>And so on. Yeah. Oh, and I was just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say so, like, yeah, that kind of that cycle kind

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<v Speaker 1>of repeat it between you and unfortunately it just didn't

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<v Speaker 1>work out.

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<v Speaker 2>So is she still like have an active role in

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<v Speaker 2>your in your kid's life.

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<v Speaker 1>So we we co parents. I have him half the week,

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<v Speaker 1>she hasn't the other half of the week. We we

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<v Speaker 1>definitely get along more as parents than a couple, which

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<v Speaker 1>is fine. Only the lemma is that once uh shit

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<v Speaker 1>happened between us and we broke it off, she kind

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<v Speaker 1>of just started partying and kind of you know, going

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<v Speaker 1>from God to guy and whatever, each on their own,

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<v Speaker 1>but she relies on guys financially. So she dates a

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<v Speaker 1>guy for like three four months. She moved. She moves

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<v Speaker 1>into their place and she brings my kid and that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of bothers me because she just bringing your kids

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<v Speaker 1>to random dudes.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Yeah, I get what you mean. How does

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<v Speaker 2>I mean does that? Do you notice a way in

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<v Speaker 2>which that affects your kid?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Man, Like, at first, he was like

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<v Speaker 1>two when we first broke it off, so he, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>did really understand. But now that he's being five, he's

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<v Speaker 1>catching up with the world, so he definitely kind of

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<v Speaker 1>I know he sees, you know, dudes come in and

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<v Speaker 1>out of his mom's life. But I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 1>been affected because you know, he still calls me his dad.

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<v Speaker 1>He still knows that I'm there for him. You knows

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<v Speaker 1>I'm his real dad. But I know over time, he's

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<v Speaker 1>probably gonna go to the same trauma she did, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what makes you feel like he's he's going to

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<v Speaker 2>go through the same trauma that she.

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<v Speaker 1>Did because she can't like how do I say, Like

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<v Speaker 1>she can't focus on herself, she has to rely on somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>She needs somebody's attention to move on with her life.

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<v Speaker 1>Because that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>You said she needs somebody's attention or like she she

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<v Speaker 2>needs a guy who will like take care of her

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<v Speaker 2>and her child.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess both in a way. Like I said, the

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<v Speaker 1>relationship doesn't work with whatever guy she's with, and she

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<v Speaker 1>quickly moves on to another, and so on and so on,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's kind of being a psycle now to this point,

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<v Speaker 1>like she can't be vayable, not even for her own

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<v Speaker 1>she can't even think about it for our own kid.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you know it's tough, man. I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>the only thing you can really like, Like, I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like you have a lot. I mean what you have?

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<v Speaker 2>Like what fifty to fifty custody?

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<v Speaker 1>No? I mean no, Well, she put me on child

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<v Speaker 1>support because they needed some kind of medicaid for the kid.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh there's another thing. By the time, she was living

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<v Speaker 1>with this guy, and she lied that she was a

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<v Speaker 1>single mom. So they were like, wor's the dad, and

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<v Speaker 1>they looked for me. And now I'm paying for his medicaid,

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<v Speaker 1>which I'm fine with that because we need a doctor.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm also paying for his child support. But we

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<v Speaker 1>still copare, which doesn't really make sense.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, how often do you see your son?

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<v Speaker 1>I have the Thursday through Sunday, she has some Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>through Thursday.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's more or less fifty fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, But the other thing is, like my family

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<v Speaker 1>never got involved with her problems. It's always always it's

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<v Speaker 1>always been myself against her and her family. Uh, you

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<v Speaker 1>know she's Asian, so you know her her parents always

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get involved. Oh they always you know, want to

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<v Speaker 1>get whatever the dad says it's gonna go. And I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like that's what it's been hard on me.

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<v Speaker 2>Well let'sten listen here. I mean, I don't know, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of feel like, yeah, I know it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>definitely hard. But like, dude, there's this like you can

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<v Speaker 2>only really use so much, like well you could, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you can only really play defense in this situation, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, Like like you legally relinquish fifty

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<v Speaker 2>of the custody of the child to your ex wife

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<v Speaker 2>or ex girlfriend or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that you gotta you have to in some

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<v Speaker 2>way surrender to that unless if you like, unless if

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<v Speaker 2>you believe that there was like a legal basis by

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<v Speaker 2>which she is like actively bringing harm or neglect or

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<v Speaker 2>abuse to your child. If it's if there's something like

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<v Speaker 2>that going on, you have more options. But if it's

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<v Speaker 2>just like, oh, she's just bringing him to all these

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<v Speaker 2>like weird guys and like he's getting a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>like impressionable dudes, and it's just like kind of weird,

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's not it's not enough for it to be

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<v Speaker 2>like something you can fight against. And so in that situation,

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<v Speaker 2>all you can really do is play defense, which just

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<v Speaker 2>to me and which honestly is to me and exactly

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<v Speaker 2>what you're already doing from what it sounds like, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, being like, when he's with you,

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, I'm your father. You can always trust me,

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<v Speaker 2>you can always you always have my support, you can

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<v Speaker 2>tell me anything you can. I will always be there

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<v Speaker 2>for you, like all these things that you're telling me

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<v Speaker 2>that you're doing. He'll be fine, you know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>like I don't I don't know. I don't know exactly

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on with when he's not around, right right,

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<v Speaker 2>But but you but when he is around, he's with

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<v Speaker 2>you half the fucking week. That's a lot. That's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of time to just do. Again, dude, just doing

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<v Speaker 2>exactly what you're doing, Like, don't like, dude, honestly, can

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<v Speaker 2>I be honest with like this is just speaking out

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<v Speaker 2>whatever you're fighting with this woman and her family. Don't

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<v Speaker 2>fucking do that. That's just gonna you like take all

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<v Speaker 2>your mental energy and focus it on like being the

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<v Speaker 2>best version of yourself that you can be and also

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<v Speaker 2>uh just being the best like fucking dad that you

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<v Speaker 2>can be to your kid. Like and it's everything that

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<v Speaker 2>you're already doing again, just like making sure that your

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<v Speaker 2>kid knows that you're there for them and and like

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<v Speaker 2>showing it right. But like what what, like are what

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<v Speaker 2>the fuck do you need to be arguing with your

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<v Speaker 2>ex girlfriend's mom about? You know what I mean? Like

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<v Speaker 2>like if I if.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I was gonna say, well, can I tell

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<v Speaker 1>you a quick story about one of her boyfriends and

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<v Speaker 1>why I started thinking that way? So Tuesday in this

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<v Speaker 1>zoo right and you know, she dated him for like

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<v Speaker 1>two three months, moving with him right away, brought my kids.

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<v Speaker 1>She lied about it. She said he was staying with grandma.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course I know he wasn't staying with grandma. The

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<v Speaker 1>dude was like bipolar, So that was one of my

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<v Speaker 1>concerns when she dropped them off and they were kind

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<v Speaker 1>of arguing. So I'm like, you know, like I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well try not to argue in front of my kid,

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<v Speaker 1>because me and her, we never argue in front of him.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh So, you know, I thought, you know that you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want that around him. And one time she wanted

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<v Speaker 1>me to. She had a slow day at work, so

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<v Speaker 1>she was like, hey, can you can you guys come in.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll hook you up with some food and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to see him. I'm like, yeah, that's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>I brought him, man, you know whatever. We ate and

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<v Speaker 1>she clocked out and we're walking back to the parking lot,

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<v Speaker 1>and to do it was kind of like controlling because

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<v Speaker 1>he will drop her off and pick her up with

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<v Speaker 1>her own car, and I was carrying my kid and

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<v Speaker 1>you know whatever she w wasn't with her. Dude, I

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<v Speaker 1>was going back to my car and I just looked

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<v Speaker 1>at him for a second and then I looked back

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<v Speaker 1>and he jumps out the car. Dude, he jumps out

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<v Speaker 1>the car, and he's like, what what the fuck are

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<v Speaker 1>you looking at this?

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<v Speaker 3>This?

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<v Speaker 1>And that? All while I was trying to hold my kid.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, dude, like, are you fucking serious? Like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>holding my kid and you're trying to find me while

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<v Speaker 1>I'm holding my kid, and then I told her, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>LOI is what the fuck I'm talking about? Like you

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<v Speaker 1>Kim been bringing this kind of dudes around him, and

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<v Speaker 1>so that kind of started me a little bit because

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<v Speaker 1>if he did that ship to me in front of

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<v Speaker 1>my kid, like, I can only imagine how the as

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when I'm out around. Yeah, and that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I got me thinking a lot, like man, like she's

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<v Speaker 1>just doing like.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I feel like I still I still stand

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<v Speaker 2>pretty firm on everything I'm saying, which is like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>so for so for example, right like, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you're you pick up your kid and then you see

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<v Speaker 2>that your ex girlfriend and this guy like screaming fighting

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<v Speaker 2>at each other, right, and you're like, what the fuck

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<v Speaker 2>can you not be doing that in front of Like why,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I just like I want to fuck it. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want my kid hanging out in this environment.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>You're you're you're crippled by the fact that you you

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<v Speaker 2>rightfully owe fifty percent custody to his mother to raise

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<v Speaker 2>him how she sees fit because she's his mother. You

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<v Speaker 2>know you got fifty percent. So listen, like in your situation,

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<v Speaker 2>the second you get your kid back you you know,

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<v Speaker 2>don't I the one You don't. What you don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to do, in my opinion, is like talk shit about

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<v Speaker 2>his mom, talk shit about like you don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>be like your mother. You don't. You don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>try to like pit your because because your kid's mom still,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's still because the kid's it still's mom. It's

0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:12.760
<v Speaker 2>stills mom. It's someone he loves and cares about. So

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<v Speaker 2>you don't want to be like, uh, pitting him against

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<v Speaker 2>her and being like, you know, like you don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to treat it like you're you're interrogating him or collecting

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<v Speaker 2>intel or anything like that. You know, but but you

0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:30.080
<v Speaker 2>do have an opportunity to sit down, to sit with

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<v Speaker 2>him and be like, hey man, listen just so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if anything happens, you can always, dude, just what you're

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<v Speaker 2>doing already. If anything happens, I have your back. You

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<v Speaker 2>can tell me anything I got you, so like listen

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<v Speaker 2>till for example, like like God, God forbid, and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what's going on in your brain, but if

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<v Speaker 2>like God forbid, like one of her like crazy ex

0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:57.920
<v Speaker 2>boyfriends like puts a hand on your kid, right, like

0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:00.280
<v Speaker 2>I know it's it's it's a thing where you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>uh uh fuck, I don't even wanna be have my

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<v Speaker 2>kid be in fucking situations where I can imagine that happening, right,

0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:12.080
<v Speaker 2>But but you're that. But you're there in case if

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<v Speaker 2>he's over with his mom and some shit goes down,

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<v Speaker 2>like he has someone he can he can talk to

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<v Speaker 2>about it and handle it like a fucking adult. You know,

0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:23.199
<v Speaker 2>he's that he doesn't feel like he's alone because he

0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:25.760
<v Speaker 2>we don't want him to feel like he's alone, But

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<v Speaker 2>you also don't want him to feel like he's he's

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<v Speaker 2>like at war or or that he's like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>being pit against you know, uh, each other, because that's

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<v Speaker 2>not fun either. You know, my my parents are divorced,

0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:43.879
<v Speaker 2>and I I I don't think I mean my parents

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<v Speaker 2>are are are good with each other now, but I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think it's a good healthy thing to like, uh,

0:17:48.680 --> 0:17:51.880
<v Speaker 2>for parents to be like talking talking shit about each other,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. So so yeah, you're doing the best thing

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<v Speaker 2>that you could be doing, which is just making sure

0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:01.880
<v Speaker 2>you're there for him and letting him know that if

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<v Speaker 2>some shit goes down, uh, you got him. But also

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<v Speaker 2>you know, having also in this way like for your

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<v Speaker 2>own mental clarity, like surrendering to the fact that, like

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<v Speaker 2>when he's not with you, there's unfortunately like limited things

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<v Speaker 2>that you can do to protect him, which is which

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm not going I'm not going to lecture

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<v Speaker 2>you about being a father. I don't have kids.

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<v Speaker 3>You do.

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<v Speaker 2>But the thing about like when he when your kid's

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<v Speaker 2>not with you, you can't protect him, isn't That's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of part of parenthood at a some degree, is being like,

0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:52.399
<v Speaker 2>your kid's gonna go to school, your kid's gonna do

0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:56.639
<v Speaker 2>like your kid is their own person, in their own

0:18:57.000 --> 0:18:59.960
<v Speaker 2>Your kid is in like your kid as like a

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<v Speaker 2>citizen of the planet. Is like, imagine you have like

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<v Speaker 2>a friend or like someone you really care about that

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<v Speaker 2>has like a shitty girlfriend or a shitty mom. You're like,

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, it's like you know what I mean, It's

0:19:15.720 --> 0:19:17.040
<v Speaker 2>like this is a person. This, your kid is like

0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:20.040
<v Speaker 2>a fully fledged person you care about that's in a

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<v Speaker 2>shitty situation, which is that his mom is bringing him

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<v Speaker 2>around dudes who are like fucked up or whatever. And

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<v Speaker 2>just like if you have just just like if you

0:19:31.520 --> 0:19:33.240
<v Speaker 2>have a friend who has like a shitty girlfriend, it's

0:19:33.240 --> 0:19:36.560
<v Speaker 2>like this you could always tell you tell your friend.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what you tell your friend. Hey, brother, listen, if

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<v Speaker 2>you need something, I got you. If you need I'm

0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:47.040
<v Speaker 2>your friend, I'm your father or whatever. But you can't.

0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:50.760
<v Speaker 2>But you also surrender to the fact of like, fucking

0:19:50.880 --> 0:19:53.280
<v Speaker 2>nothing I can do. He's that's that's that's his that

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<v Speaker 2>is his mom.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>So don't like I just I say this not to

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<v Speaker 2>be like defeatist, but I say it just to like

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<v Speaker 2>kind of spare you a little bit of mental energy.

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<v Speaker 2>I suppose do you get what I'm saying? Does ever listen?

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<v Speaker 3>Ask?

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't have kids that you do, So tell

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<v Speaker 2>me if any of this sounds fair, No.

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<v Speaker 1>It goes, it makes sense. I feel like at some

0:20:22.000 --> 0:20:25.240
<v Speaker 1>point he's going to see it himself, like, oh, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm going I'm going around. Uh, I'm going around. No,

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<v Speaker 1>no bad.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I want to hear what you had

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<v Speaker 2>to say. But I'm just curious where you are.

0:20:41.800 --> 0:20:43.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh I just got home, but my parents were living

0:20:43.920 --> 0:20:45.680
<v Speaker 1>so they asked me if I had keys to the house.

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<v Speaker 1>But okay, okay, But I feel like he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>see that himself, you know what I mean, Like I

0:20:51.920 --> 0:20:54.200
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't really have to explain much myself. I feel like

0:20:54.240 --> 0:20:55.679
<v Speaker 1>he's going to see it. He's going to be like,

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<v Speaker 1>what the fuck is my mom doing bringing all these

0:20:57.400 --> 0:21:00.280
<v Speaker 1>dudes around, And meanwhile, I'm just chilling doing my thing.

0:21:00.320 --> 0:21:04.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm not bringing any woman around him. So he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>see himself. He's gonna, you know, I see HS is

0:21:07.240 --> 0:21:10.600
<v Speaker 1>gonna acknowledge it, and you know, but it's gonna kind

0:21:10.600 --> 0:21:12.080
<v Speaker 1>of suck for me. I kind of feel bad, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in a way, but yeah, of course, of course.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I mean like it was harder for us.

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<v Speaker 1>It was definitely hard man. That was that was my

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<v Speaker 1>my darkest time, because she just moved on like nothing happened,

0:21:27.720 --> 0:21:29.720
<v Speaker 1>Like she just didn't bring her family. I'm like, you

0:21:29.840 --> 0:21:32.680
<v Speaker 1>y'all here partying and fucking dudes, and I'm over here

0:21:32.720 --> 0:21:35.679
<v Speaker 1>behind the press. You you you tear a friendly apart.

0:21:36.359 --> 0:21:41.199
<v Speaker 1>But I guess everybody coops different, you know, like, And

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<v Speaker 1>it's funny because at the time that all that shit happened,

0:21:44.920 --> 0:21:47.440
<v Speaker 1>or or least was uh coming up. So we're looking

0:21:47.440 --> 0:21:49.080
<v Speaker 1>for a new apartment and then I was like, well,

0:21:49.080 --> 0:21:51.280
<v Speaker 1>screw that, I'm gonna move back with my parents. So

0:21:51.320 --> 0:21:54.800
<v Speaker 1>we're we're packing stuff, and my kid had his own

0:21:54.880 --> 0:21:59.800
<v Speaker 1>room and we unpacked his room last, and it kind

0:21:59.800 --> 0:22:01.560
<v Speaker 1>of me up that we had to split had him

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<v Speaker 1>happen half his stuff, you know, And yeah, I know,

0:22:06.520 --> 0:22:08.680
<v Speaker 1>and she didn't care. I'm like, how do you not care?

0:22:08.960 --> 0:22:11.880
<v Speaker 1>And have you seen in the movies like how guys

0:22:12.000 --> 0:22:15.480
<v Speaker 1>just chilling and like the whole entire room just slowly disappears.

0:22:15.760 --> 0:22:19.440
<v Speaker 1>That's how kind of felt like, Damn, everything I worked

0:22:19.440 --> 0:22:23.520
<v Speaker 1>for for family, it's just gone in the day, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Can I.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I I hope I'm not being naive by saying

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<v Speaker 2>this stuff. But can I just say this and you

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<v Speaker 2>just tell me if it resonates with you? Because you're

0:22:33.960 --> 0:22:37.760
<v Speaker 2>talking about the families split up? Uh, this I might,

0:22:37.840 --> 0:22:39.520
<v Speaker 2>this might I'm this might be some hippi shit that

0:22:39.520 --> 0:22:41.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm about to say. But and I but I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just I'm feeling it as I'm talking to the families.

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<v Speaker 2>You're you're you're this fucking kid's dad and you you're

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<v Speaker 2>with him. You know. I grew up divorced parents too,

0:22:52.480 --> 0:22:54.200
<v Speaker 2>and my my dad feels like my dad, my mom

0:22:54.240 --> 0:22:56.120
<v Speaker 2>feels like my mom, you know, because they were there

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<v Speaker 2>in my so like I have a fan. I I

0:23:00.280 --> 0:23:04.240
<v Speaker 2>have a family, you know what I mean? Your kid

0:23:04.960 --> 0:23:07.639
<v Speaker 2>is not going to feel like he doesn't have a dad,

0:23:08.320 --> 0:23:12.639
<v Speaker 2>judging by what's up, judging by my my intuition for

0:23:12.680 --> 0:23:18.360
<v Speaker 2>how you exist in his life. So whatever happened in

0:23:18.400 --> 0:23:21.680
<v Speaker 2>this physical fracture that like he has to deal with

0:23:21.800 --> 0:23:25.280
<v Speaker 2>and you have to deal with is is is totally

0:23:25.320 --> 0:23:30.840
<v Speaker 2>a bummer and totally sad. But don't spiral into thinking

0:23:30.920 --> 0:23:34.639
<v Speaker 2>that the family is is gone, that everything you worked

0:23:34.680 --> 0:23:38.680
<v Speaker 2>for is gone. Because listen, brother, you're you're a good dad.

0:23:39.200 --> 0:23:42.400
<v Speaker 2>That's not going away. You get to see your kid

0:23:44.000 --> 0:23:46.800
<v Speaker 2>a good amount of his life. You're you're, you're gonna

0:23:46.800 --> 0:23:49.920
<v Speaker 2>be there, and so you you're gonna you The family

0:23:49.960 --> 0:23:54.320
<v Speaker 2>is not broken up. It's not like he had to

0:23:55.359 --> 0:23:58.600
<v Speaker 2>like move to you know, Indianapolis, or you're fighting for

0:23:58.760 --> 0:24:00.840
<v Speaker 2>custody or whatever. Like you're in a good you're in

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<v Speaker 2>a good spot. So I wouldn't spiral again too hard

0:24:05.480 --> 0:24:09.960
<v Speaker 2>about like, oh my family is gone, Like he's right there,

0:24:10.000 --> 0:24:13.520
<v Speaker 2>like he's gonna feel, he's gonna feel in his gut

0:24:13.600 --> 0:24:18.639
<v Speaker 2>that you're his his dad. You know, it's he's not gone.

0:24:19.600 --> 0:24:20.000
<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Right? Well, I don't how do I say. I mean

0:24:26.080 --> 0:24:28.280
<v Speaker 1>that's how I felt at the moment. You know, like, damn,

0:24:28.320 --> 0:24:31.240
<v Speaker 1>everything worked hard for I was the main provider, you know,

0:24:31.320 --> 0:24:35.840
<v Speaker 1>I did everything for her. I I didn't want an

0:24:35.960 --> 0:24:37.840
<v Speaker 1>kid at first, to be honest, I was the type

0:24:37.840 --> 0:24:39.720
<v Speaker 1>of dude I was like, I don't want kids. Fuck that.

0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:42.720
<v Speaker 1>But like I met her, and it's just everything failed, right.

0:24:42.760 --> 0:24:44.440
<v Speaker 1>You know. We got an apartment, we got to the

0:24:44.560 --> 0:24:48.280
<v Speaker 1>nice cars, we were financially stable. It just felt right

0:24:48.320 --> 0:24:51.080
<v Speaker 1>to have a kid, you know, and we had him

0:24:51.240 --> 0:24:54.800
<v Speaker 1>the first year. Two we're great, and she fucking went

0:24:54.880 --> 0:24:57.600
<v Speaker 1>downhill after that, and it just kind of sucked that

0:24:57.680 --> 0:25:00.720
<v Speaker 1>it ended so early in his life. And just the

0:25:00.760 --> 0:25:03.440
<v Speaker 1>traditional type of dude that you know, she just wants

0:25:03.480 --> 0:25:06.800
<v Speaker 1>who have a family and in the fucking house and

0:25:06.920 --> 0:25:07.159
<v Speaker 1>why not.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Yeah, I give what you mean. I give

0:25:09.800 --> 0:25:13.560
<v Speaker 2>what you mean. But look, man, you're look, you're a

0:25:13.560 --> 0:25:15.720
<v Speaker 2>young dude. You're are you dating?

0:25:17.560 --> 0:25:22.879
<v Speaker 1>Ah? Dude about that? Like I met some girls and

0:25:22.960 --> 0:25:26.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, dating apps and whatnot, but like it's not

0:25:26.520 --> 0:25:29.320
<v Speaker 1>the same dude, Like all these girls are just like

0:25:29.480 --> 0:25:32.119
<v Speaker 1>they want one and one things, so they want to

0:25:32.160 --> 0:25:38.080
<v Speaker 1>get back and or what do you what do you

0:25:38.200 --> 0:25:38.760
<v Speaker 1>a few things.

0:25:38.760 --> 0:25:40.040
<v Speaker 2>It's not When you say it's not the same, do

0:25:40.040 --> 0:25:41.520
<v Speaker 2>you mean it's not the same as your ex?

0:25:42.960 --> 0:25:45.800
<v Speaker 1>No, it's just it's just a girl. Oh no, girl,

0:25:45.880 --> 0:25:50.320
<v Speaker 1>Well girls now that I've talked to, whynot? Maybe I

0:25:50.320 --> 0:25:52.600
<v Speaker 1>haven't met the right one yet, but the girls that

0:25:52.680 --> 0:25:56.240
<v Speaker 1>I've talked to recently, it's just it's just, you know,

0:25:56.280 --> 0:25:58.800
<v Speaker 1>if they're not getting attention from social media or dudes,

0:25:58.840 --> 0:26:02.040
<v Speaker 1>they're just gonna move on. Like it's just like that.

0:26:05.080 --> 0:26:08.360
<v Speaker 2>What do you mean by that they're not getting attention

0:26:08.600 --> 0:26:12.600
<v Speaker 2>from social media? What does that mean? What does social

0:26:12.640 --> 0:26:15.040
<v Speaker 2>media you have to do with this? Are you okay?

0:26:15.600 --> 0:26:19.560
<v Speaker 2>All right? I'm gonna are you? Are you saying and

0:26:19.600 --> 0:26:22.639
<v Speaker 2>we could are are you saying that? Like you're on

0:26:22.760 --> 0:26:27.080
<v Speaker 2>dating apps and you feel like, and I get you

0:26:27.119 --> 0:26:29.480
<v Speaker 2>feel like the women that you're interacting with on dating

0:26:29.520 --> 0:26:34.360
<v Speaker 2>apps are not really there to get into the kind

0:26:34.400 --> 0:26:36.959
<v Speaker 2>of serious relationship that you want to get into and

0:26:37.000 --> 0:26:41.520
<v Speaker 2>are mainly there for like dates and attention. Is that

0:26:41.600 --> 0:26:42.760
<v Speaker 2>basically yeah?

0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:49.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, mmmm, Like it's a different it's a different it's

0:26:49.840 --> 0:26:51.080
<v Speaker 1>just a different world now, you know.

0:26:53.160 --> 0:26:58.080
<v Speaker 2>But is that? I mean, buddy, how true is that?

0:26:58.119 --> 0:26:58.199
<v Speaker 1>Like?

0:26:58.240 --> 0:26:59.800
<v Speaker 2>Where where do you live? You don't have to give

0:26:59.800 --> 0:27:02.119
<v Speaker 2>me your longitude latitude? But what do you Where do

0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:02.440
<v Speaker 2>you live?

0:27:03.560 --> 0:27:07.119
<v Speaker 1>I live in Central, well, not Central, I live in Texas, Dallas.

0:27:07.800 --> 0:27:12.000
<v Speaker 2>You live in Dallas. Yes, sir, you're telling me there's

0:27:12.119 --> 0:27:15.920
<v Speaker 2>no women. You're first, you're a great age, you can

0:27:16.040 --> 0:27:18.040
<v Speaker 2>you can date what like?

0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:19.080
<v Speaker 3>What like?

0:27:19.080 --> 0:27:21.600
<v Speaker 2>You're telling me there's no women in Dallas who want

0:27:21.640 --> 0:27:23.120
<v Speaker 2>to have a real relationship.

0:27:26.440 --> 0:27:28.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying there's not. I'm just saying I haven't

0:27:28.800 --> 0:27:29.359
<v Speaker 1>met one.

0:27:29.840 --> 0:27:35.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm just I just I guess I'm passionate about

0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:38.919
<v Speaker 2>this only because I'm a big I'm really big on

0:27:39.160 --> 0:27:43.359
<v Speaker 2>like what you believe about yourself and the world and

0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:50.600
<v Speaker 2>women and men and fucking whatever. Is like what you find?

0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:52.760
<v Speaker 2>I really feel that way?

0:27:54.359 --> 0:27:56.439
<v Speaker 1>And where do you find that? I guess because you know,

0:27:56.680 --> 0:27:59.280
<v Speaker 1>you can go to a bar and you only go

0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:01.560
<v Speaker 1>to meet a girl to like going out and partying whatever.

0:28:02.440 --> 0:28:04.720
<v Speaker 1>Or you can go to like a library and I

0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:07.720
<v Speaker 1>meet a girl that goes to school and text a

0:28:07.800 --> 0:28:14.080
<v Speaker 1>live series. Sure. Yeah, And I guess I feel like

0:28:14.080 --> 0:28:16.120
<v Speaker 1>I'll be looking at the wrong places sometimes too.

0:28:16.880 --> 0:28:20.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean, I'm not, I'm I'm truly, I'm truly

0:28:20.119 --> 0:28:24.120
<v Speaker 2>no dating expert. But my big thing is, like I try,

0:28:24.200 --> 0:28:30.600
<v Speaker 2>I try not to develop negative schemas about, uh, what

0:28:30.800 --> 0:28:34.880
<v Speaker 2>the people in the world are are like in general.

0:28:36.800 --> 0:28:38.600
<v Speaker 1>Wat you want to be open, you know, trying to

0:28:38.640 --> 0:28:41.000
<v Speaker 1>be like, oh you like doing this, Okay we can

0:28:41.080 --> 0:28:46.280
<v Speaker 1>do that, or oh I don't know. I just feel like,

0:28:46.280 --> 0:28:49.360
<v Speaker 1>like I guess the type of woman I've talked to,

0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:52.440
<v Speaker 1>they just have options and there's just no longer no interest.

0:28:52.880 --> 0:28:54.640
<v Speaker 1>Then they just cuts you off and move on to

0:28:54.680 --> 0:28:58.560
<v Speaker 1>the next which is fine, you know, but it seems

0:28:58.560 --> 0:28:59.880
<v Speaker 1>to be like a psycho at this point.

0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:03.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you might have Here's the thing is that might

0:29:03.120 --> 0:29:06.520
<v Speaker 2>have to happen to you about fifteen more times before

0:29:07.960 --> 0:29:11.520
<v Speaker 2>you find something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I have to happen

0:29:11.560 --> 0:29:15.720
<v Speaker 2>to you about thirty seven more times. That might have

0:29:15.800 --> 0:29:19.040
<v Speaker 2>to happen to you about seven hundred and forty more

0:29:19.080 --> 0:29:23.160
<v Speaker 2>times before you find the person that you're really gonna

0:29:23.160 --> 0:29:25.960
<v Speaker 2>be happy with. But just you gotta just but you

0:29:26.080 --> 0:29:28.719
<v Speaker 2>have to just fucking you have to just eat that,

0:29:28.840 --> 0:29:30.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, you know, you just eat it. Yeah, yeah,

0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:33.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean you sometimes sometimes in life, like it with

0:29:33.920 --> 0:29:38.240
<v Speaker 2>dating or whatever, like sometimes when things happen, you just

0:29:38.240 --> 0:29:41.160
<v Speaker 2>have to continue. You just have to keep eating it,

0:29:41.880 --> 0:29:45.840
<v Speaker 2>and then while you're eating it, believe like you have

0:29:45.920 --> 0:29:51.400
<v Speaker 2>to just shovel diarrhea into your mouth. And while you're

0:29:51.440 --> 0:29:55.320
<v Speaker 2>like your cheeks are like coiled, you look like ed

0:29:55.720 --> 0:29:57.920
<v Speaker 2>Ed and Eddie when they have the jawbreakers that you're

0:29:58.040 --> 0:30:00.320
<v Speaker 2>just cheeks with diarrhea and you have to I'll be

0:30:00.360 --> 0:30:04.560
<v Speaker 2>looking like that and going soon its gonna that some

0:30:04.560 --> 0:30:07.800
<v Speaker 2>some something good is gonna happen. You have That's how

0:30:07.880 --> 0:30:10.520
<v Speaker 2>you have to do it. You have to just take

0:30:10.560 --> 0:30:13.680
<v Speaker 2>it and fully believe that something good is gonna happen,

0:30:13.800 --> 0:30:18.400
<v Speaker 2>because that's that's your only maybe you know what I mean,

0:30:18.520 --> 0:30:22.760
<v Speaker 2>I really believe. I believe that's so uh strongly. My

0:30:22.880 --> 0:30:26.160
<v Speaker 2>I've talked about this on here before. My dad my

0:30:26.320 --> 0:30:32.719
<v Speaker 2>mom got divorced after eleven years of marriage and then

0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:36.920
<v Speaker 2>each of them found better partners than each other when

0:30:36.960 --> 0:30:40.200
<v Speaker 2>they were in there like mid to late forties. So

0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:44.880
<v Speaker 2>it might take ten years before you find a woman

0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:47.240
<v Speaker 2>that you're happy with. I know that's not fun to hear,

0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:55.200
<v Speaker 2>but actually just yeaheah. Time time will come, but it

0:30:55.360 --> 0:31:00.480
<v Speaker 2>but it guaranteed won't come if you're not able to

0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:03.520
<v Speaker 2>have that optimism while you're eating the diarrhea because if

0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:06.080
<v Speaker 2>you're eating the day, because if you're eating diarrhea and

0:31:06.080 --> 0:31:11.200
<v Speaker 2>then you start being like all food is diarrhea, then

0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:15.520
<v Speaker 2>it's then you just eat diarrhea until you're uh, you know,

0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:18.240
<v Speaker 2>until you die. You just can't let your just you

0:31:18.320 --> 0:31:21.480
<v Speaker 2>really like in all things, can't let your prior. I

0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:25.959
<v Speaker 2>know it's weird, right, you're you're in life. We do

0:31:26.040 --> 0:31:30.320
<v Speaker 2>pattern recognition things and we take what's happened thus far,

0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:34.240
<v Speaker 2>and we take ourselves and we take whatever and we

0:31:34.320 --> 0:31:36.120
<v Speaker 2>use it to form our idea of what the future

0:31:36.200 --> 0:31:38.240
<v Speaker 2>is going to be like. But that's not a good

0:31:38.280 --> 0:31:43.400
<v Speaker 2>way to do things. I mean, you can learn and

0:31:43.440 --> 0:31:47.000
<v Speaker 2>you can adapt, but when you start developing schemas in

0:31:47.040 --> 0:31:52.280
<v Speaker 2>your head of like all women uh are are the same,

0:31:52.560 --> 0:31:57.200
<v Speaker 2>or like the like the whole flation thing, or like

0:31:57.320 --> 0:32:01.080
<v Speaker 2>you like you just you, but you just build a

0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:02.840
<v Speaker 2>scheme that doesn't lead you anywhere.

0:32:03.000 --> 0:32:03.640
<v Speaker 3>Good.

0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:09.840
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, well, if I'm being honest, man, like dating

0:32:09.960 --> 0:32:13.480
<v Speaker 1>is not really a priority right now. Like I'm content

0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:16.200
<v Speaker 1>with life. Like I said, I have a pretty good job,

0:32:17.280 --> 0:32:21.120
<v Speaker 1>saving enough money, pay off the ball whatever they have

0:32:21.200 --> 0:32:24.760
<v Speaker 1>to have to Oh, happy with my kid. My kid

0:32:24.880 --> 0:32:26.000
<v Speaker 1>is my purpose.

0:32:26.120 --> 0:32:26.400
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:32:28.000 --> 0:32:29.920
<v Speaker 1>If I find the person, that's just a plus one

0:32:29.960 --> 0:32:32.640
<v Speaker 1>at this point, Like, I'm content with being alone by myself,

0:32:32.960 --> 0:32:35.160
<v Speaker 1>you know my kids. He makes me happy, so I'm happy,

0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:37.400
<v Speaker 1>and so I'm good.

0:32:39.960 --> 0:32:43.680
<v Speaker 2>Ricky Bobby. Wait, you're not Ricky Bobby. You're a sweet James.

0:32:43.800 --> 0:32:45.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm sweet James.

0:32:45.280 --> 0:32:49.320
<v Speaker 2>Fuck I talked to another guy before you called Ricky Bobby. Okay,

0:32:49.360 --> 0:32:52.800
<v Speaker 2>we'll cut that out or we won't. Whatever it's Brandon

0:32:52.840 --> 0:32:54.520
<v Speaker 2>can decide if he wants to cut that out or not.

0:32:54.960 --> 0:33:00.280
<v Speaker 2>Sweet James. H thanks thanks for sharing all this stuff.

0:33:00.280 --> 0:33:03.200
<v Speaker 2>I also I know that you. I know, I appreciate

0:33:03.360 --> 0:33:06.400
<v Speaker 2>you believing I'm here to expose people and then and

0:33:06.440 --> 0:33:12.600
<v Speaker 2>then going through the process of exposing yourself, and I

0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:17.600
<v Speaker 2>I appreciate I appreciate you exposing yourself to us. It's

0:33:17.600 --> 0:33:18.320
<v Speaker 2>been helpful.

0:33:19.760 --> 0:33:23.280
<v Speaker 1>I just yeah, I just did it to my sol huh.

0:33:23.320 --> 0:33:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Well na, Like, like I said, that was my first thoughts,

0:33:25.960 --> 0:33:28.160
<v Speaker 1>and you know, I just got into your show. I'm

0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:30.400
<v Speaker 1>just like, damn, there's some real life ship right here.

0:33:31.320 --> 0:33:34.360
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, go ahead, go ahead.

0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:36.040
<v Speaker 1>Are you coming to Dallas?

0:33:37.400 --> 0:33:40.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I'm definitely coming to Austin. And I'm

0:33:42.600 --> 0:33:45.800
<v Speaker 2>eighty percent sure, I'm coming to Houston, and I might

0:33:45.920 --> 0:33:49.080
<v Speaker 2>if enough people, if enough people want me to do it,

0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:52.800
<v Speaker 2>I'll come to Dallas. Yeah, I usually did. I've done Dallas.

0:33:52.880 --> 0:33:55.400
<v Speaker 2>I've done Dallas twice before, so I might. I might

0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:59.240
<v Speaker 2>come back. We'll see. If I started like, really, I

0:33:59.560 --> 0:34:01.520
<v Speaker 2>the material real I have for the shows so far,

0:34:01.600 --> 0:34:03.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty jazzed on. I still I still have a

0:34:03.360 --> 0:34:08.640
<v Speaker 2>lot more left to do. But if I start being like, yo,

0:34:08.760 --> 0:34:11.960
<v Speaker 2>I think this material and these shows are really popping off,

0:34:11.960 --> 0:34:13.359
<v Speaker 2>then I'll probably add a bunch more.

0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:17.680
<v Speaker 1>But I think you have are I think you'll have

0:34:17.719 --> 0:34:19.800
<v Speaker 1>a great audience for Dallas. There's a lot of crazy

0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:20.479
<v Speaker 1>ship over here.

0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:25.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, I hope to see you there, sweet James, and.

0:34:25.840 --> 0:34:27.560
<v Speaker 1>Be like, I'm gonna be like, I'm the guy that

0:34:27.800 --> 0:34:31.040
<v Speaker 1>balks myself. I'm trying to you.

0:34:31.480 --> 0:34:33.200
<v Speaker 2>If you say that, I won't remember. But if you

0:34:33.280 --> 0:34:36.440
<v Speaker 2>say if you talk about uh uh the stuff that

0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:38.600
<v Speaker 2>we talked about, I'll remember.

0:34:39.239 --> 0:34:41.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'll hope. I'll hope to see you soon, man,

0:34:41.440 --> 0:34:44.400
<v Speaker 1>and and and I like your work now. I like

0:34:44.440 --> 0:34:48.200
<v Speaker 1>what you do. Oh, just keep doing what you're doing. Man,

0:34:48.239 --> 0:34:49.040
<v Speaker 1>You're a good person.

0:34:49.480 --> 0:34:51.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh, thank you, Sweet James. Hey, you too, man. Keep

0:34:51.600 --> 0:34:54.279
<v Speaker 2>being her good fucking dad, all right, don't don't beat

0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:56.080
<v Speaker 2>yourself up, and don't lose sleep at night.

0:34:56.480 --> 0:35:00.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, I I really appreciate from the botto my heart.

0:35:01.080 --> 0:35:03.600
<v Speaker 1>It makes me happy that you to hear from somebody

0:35:03.640 --> 0:35:05.040
<v Speaker 1>that I'm being a good dad.

0:35:05.080 --> 0:35:09.520
<v Speaker 2>And it's a lot beautiful man. Take care of sweet James.

0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:13.200
<v Speaker 1>There's something I can say for the people on the internet. Yeah,

0:35:13.239 --> 0:35:17.880
<v Speaker 1>of course, don't forget to wipe your ass and wash

0:35:17.880 --> 0:35:19.640
<v Speaker 1>your hands, because a lot of people wipe their ass

0:35:19.640 --> 0:35:20.680
<v Speaker 1>and then wash their hands.

0:35:20.880 --> 0:35:21.920
<v Speaker 2>Do a lot of people do that?

0:35:24.239 --> 0:35:26.279
<v Speaker 1>I hope not. Shit.

0:35:26.400 --> 0:35:29.560
<v Speaker 2>Wait, hold on, what if you're I don't wait, why

0:35:29.560 --> 0:35:32.919
<v Speaker 2>are you supposed to wash your hands after you I've

0:35:32.920 --> 0:35:36.440
<v Speaker 2>had dude? Okay, So by like muscle memory. I wash

0:35:36.480 --> 0:35:38.560
<v Speaker 2>my hands every time I use the bathroom. But there's

0:35:38.560 --> 0:35:40.960
<v Speaker 2>been a couple of times where like I raise my

0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:43.279
<v Speaker 2>hands up and I sit down on the toilet and

0:35:43.320 --> 0:35:47.560
<v Speaker 2>I pee, and then I go like I have to,

0:35:47.560 --> 0:35:49.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, and then I go, and then I go,

0:35:50.680 --> 0:35:52.520
<v Speaker 2>and then I go. I wash my hands. My hands

0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:55.000
<v Speaker 2>feel dirty if I don't, but I'm like I didn't.

0:35:55.040 --> 0:36:00.759
<v Speaker 2>My hands didn't interact with any bathroom stimulus us. What's

0:36:00.800 --> 0:36:01.120
<v Speaker 2>the point.

0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:05.640
<v Speaker 1>Well, you see, you're you're still in the air where

0:36:05.640 --> 0:36:08.719
<v Speaker 1>it's contaminated with dookie. There's still dookie particles in the air.

0:36:09.160 --> 0:36:12.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but there's dooky particles in the air everywhere.

0:36:12.360 --> 0:36:13.440
<v Speaker 1>Especially in the bathroom.

0:36:14.360 --> 0:36:16.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but yeah, they're I mean they're everywhere. You know,

0:36:16.400 --> 0:36:19.520
<v Speaker 2>when you walk every all the people that you see

0:36:19.600 --> 0:36:23.319
<v Speaker 2>walking around you there and in any place, they all

0:36:23.360 --> 0:36:28.000
<v Speaker 2>have assholes that have poop, have poop that particles of

0:36:28.040 --> 0:36:29.000
<v Speaker 2>it float into the air.

0:36:29.840 --> 0:36:31.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I feel more comfortable they watch their hands

0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:34.280
<v Speaker 1>off of this ship than not washing their hands, because

0:36:34.320 --> 0:36:36.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, you know you've been I'm pretty sure you've

0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:38.200
<v Speaker 1>been there. You wipe your butt, you get a little

0:36:38.200 --> 0:36:39.880
<v Speaker 1>bit on your finger, and you wipe it off, and

0:36:40.040 --> 0:36:42.040
<v Speaker 1>you still wash your hands. A lot of people will

0:36:42.160 --> 0:36:45.840
<v Speaker 1>just walk off to the bathroom. Off the bathroom.

0:36:46.040 --> 0:36:49.320
<v Speaker 2>All right, I'm gonna let you go, Sweet James, all right, Laro.

0:36:49.160 --> 0:36:50.360
<v Speaker 1>Have a good one, be served.

0:36:50.440 --> 0:36:53.080
<v Speaker 2>I hope you you too. Man, You take care, thanks

0:36:53.080 --> 0:36:58.960
<v Speaker 2>for calling man all right? By man, No, Sweet James,

0:36:59.280 --> 0:37:02.239
<v Speaker 2>Sweet James, what sweet you know what, I'll say it.

0:37:02.480 --> 0:37:04.759
<v Speaker 2>I'll say it. I'll say it. Fuck you, I'll say it.

0:37:04.920 --> 0:37:11.720
<v Speaker 2>Sweet James, sweet guy. I like sweet James. It's interesting,

0:37:11.719 --> 0:37:14.560
<v Speaker 2>it's interesting talking about the kids stuff. I like thinking.

0:37:14.840 --> 0:37:21.279
<v Speaker 2>I like the thinking exercise of it. You know, uh yeah,

0:37:21.320 --> 0:37:26.040
<v Speaker 2>I hope he doesn't lose sleep at night if you

0:37:26.120 --> 0:37:31.719
<v Speaker 2>ship though, and the paper doesn't. If you shop, You're like,

0:37:31.800 --> 0:37:34.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm touching clean toilet paper. Why do I have to

0:37:34.320 --> 0:37:36.120
<v Speaker 2>wash my hand? I do I do it? By the way,

0:37:36.120 --> 0:37:38.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying I don't, but I'm just kind of,

0:37:38.200 --> 0:37:42.759
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, just thinking about it. Hello, Hello, what's

0:37:42.840 --> 0:37:43.239
<v Speaker 2>up man?

0:37:43.400 --> 0:37:44.080
<v Speaker 1>This is wild?

0:37:44.160 --> 0:37:44.319
<v Speaker 3>Right?

0:37:44.640 --> 0:37:45.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, who is this?

0:37:46.440 --> 0:37:50.319
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna give a fake name. I'm gonna I'm gonna

0:37:50.320 --> 0:37:51.960
<v Speaker 3>say my name is Jeremiah.

0:37:52.440 --> 0:37:55.560
<v Speaker 2>Jeremiah. That's a lot of syllables for a fake name.

0:37:56.800 --> 0:37:59.360
<v Speaker 3>Well is that? Are you gonna be able to remember that?

0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:02.719
<v Speaker 2>Definitely not, But it doesn't matter. I'll call you a

0:38:02.719 --> 0:38:07.120
<v Speaker 2>bunch of different names. No, well, Jeremiah, how about call.

0:38:07.080 --> 0:38:10.320
<v Speaker 3>Me Jerry for short, Jerry.

0:38:09.560 --> 0:38:13.319
<v Speaker 2>Like Jed fake name. Jerry's a good fake there. I

0:38:13.360 --> 0:38:18.720
<v Speaker 2>feel like fake names have no business being anything more

0:38:18.800 --> 0:38:23.319
<v Speaker 2>than one syllable fake names that we both Okay, So

0:38:23.360 --> 0:38:26.160
<v Speaker 2>if you're like coming up with an alias to trick somebody.

0:38:26.440 --> 0:38:30.200
<v Speaker 2>Then the more syllables the better, right, Like what is

0:38:30.239 --> 0:38:34.480
<v Speaker 2>it from? Art? Oh? Fuck Art? Vandala?

0:38:35.000 --> 0:38:39.240
<v Speaker 3>It's multiple syllables, but the last name is multiple syllables.

0:38:39.320 --> 0:38:42.000
<v Speaker 2>Art, last names multiple syllables. But if if we're just

0:38:42.080 --> 0:38:44.719
<v Speaker 2>doing we both know that it's a fake name. To

0:38:44.800 --> 0:38:48.480
<v Speaker 2>keep it, keep it simple, okay, Jerry, Yes, you texted

0:38:48.520 --> 0:38:51.160
<v Speaker 2>me and you said, Hello, Lyle, I am currently in

0:38:51.239 --> 0:38:54.719
<v Speaker 2>a sex Addicts anonymous meeting and would like to be

0:38:54.800 --> 0:38:57.280
<v Speaker 2>on your Gecko show. You texted me that a half

0:38:57.320 --> 0:39:00.799
<v Speaker 2>hour ago. Are you still okay? Multiple questions A, are

0:39:00.800 --> 0:39:03.399
<v Speaker 2>you still in this meeting? And then B why are

0:39:03.400 --> 0:39:05.360
<v Speaker 2>you taking phone calls during the meeting?

0:39:06.560 --> 0:39:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Uh?

0:39:06.960 --> 0:39:13.280
<v Speaker 3>Well, one, no, it actually just got over. And two

0:39:13.960 --> 0:39:21.280
<v Speaker 3>Uh I that's a good question. I suppose it's because

0:39:21.360 --> 0:39:27.040
<v Speaker 3>there's there's some so it's a zoom call and I

0:39:27.080 --> 0:39:31.480
<v Speaker 3>there there's some readings in there that I've heard a

0:39:31.520 --> 0:39:34.360
<v Speaker 3>million times. I wasn't exactly sure when you would call me,

0:39:36.040 --> 0:39:38.399
<v Speaker 3>so I I kind of just left left it out

0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:42.120
<v Speaker 3>in the open to see to see if you would listen.

0:39:42.160 --> 0:39:48.759
<v Speaker 2>Listen, brother, listen, brother. You can hear the readings time

0:39:48.800 --> 0:39:54.600
<v Speaker 2>after time, But do you do you understand the readings.

0:39:54.960 --> 0:39:55.359
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm.

0:39:59.760 --> 0:40:03.680
<v Speaker 3>I I think that sometimes whenever I'm hearing the readings,

0:40:03.719 --> 0:40:10.800
<v Speaker 3>they feel they feel I feel more connected to them.

0:40:12.719 --> 0:40:15.160
<v Speaker 3>It just depends on the day, you know what I mean,

0:40:16.040 --> 0:40:20.160
<v Speaker 3>Like some days the readings hit. Other days it's just

0:40:20.280 --> 0:40:27.160
<v Speaker 3>like I'm just they're listening, waiting for my prind to share. Yeah.

0:40:27.160 --> 0:40:30.160
<v Speaker 2>I think I feel like the readings portion of those

0:40:30.280 --> 0:40:34.200
<v Speaker 2>kinds of meetings is not the not the sauce.

0:40:35.920 --> 0:40:41.200
<v Speaker 3>No, And I mean sometimes it is. And lately because

0:40:41.239 --> 0:40:44.520
<v Speaker 3>I've been trying to go about or been trying to

0:40:44.840 --> 0:40:47.840
<v Speaker 3>come to the meetings about every day for the last

0:40:47.960 --> 0:40:52.600
<v Speaker 3>like month to month and a half. And most of

0:40:52.640 --> 0:40:54.719
<v Speaker 3>the time I try to make it a point too,

0:40:55.360 --> 0:40:59.560
<v Speaker 3>because we all take turns reading, and I try to

0:40:59.600 --> 0:41:03.799
<v Speaker 3>make it to at least read a portion of it

0:41:03.920 --> 0:41:08.000
<v Speaker 3>so that I'm present in that moment of the reading. Yeah,

0:41:09.080 --> 0:41:16.200
<v Speaker 3>but it's definitely like if I'm not reading, I'm probably

0:41:16.640 --> 0:41:21.200
<v Speaker 3>tuning out. And there's definitely been times where I'm like

0:41:23.040 --> 0:41:28.240
<v Speaker 3>there's somebody reading and I'll like turn off my camera

0:41:28.560 --> 0:41:33.040
<v Speaker 3>or something and go grab some more coffee, or maybe

0:41:33.880 --> 0:41:36.840
<v Speaker 3>I'll go like say, what's up to my girlfriend who's

0:41:36.840 --> 0:41:41.759
<v Speaker 3>in the other room, or something like that, and it

0:41:42.320 --> 0:41:46.719
<v Speaker 3>definitely feels less present. But whenever it gets to the

0:41:46.719 --> 0:41:49.359
<v Speaker 3>shares and stuff, I definitely try to sit down and

0:41:49.400 --> 0:41:51.120
<v Speaker 3>like listen to everybody and everything.

0:41:51.719 --> 0:41:59.640
<v Speaker 2>Do you only go online, yes, so you don't have

0:41:59.680 --> 0:42:02.600
<v Speaker 2>to talk about it. I assumed you texted me with

0:42:02.800 --> 0:42:05.440
<v Speaker 2>this information because you wanted to talk about it. But

0:42:06.640 --> 0:42:08.759
<v Speaker 2>if you do, what sparked you to want to start

0:42:08.760 --> 0:42:10.200
<v Speaker 2>going to these meetings every single day?

0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Well?

0:42:13.239 --> 0:42:16.400
<v Speaker 3>I started going to the meetings in general in the

0:42:16.440 --> 0:42:21.719
<v Speaker 3>middle of December following a discovery from my girlfriend. She

0:42:21.719 --> 0:42:26.040
<v Speaker 3>found out I was cheating on her and I was

0:42:26.239 --> 0:42:30.120
<v Speaker 3>doing a bunch of shady shit on social media, dming

0:42:30.160 --> 0:42:34.920
<v Speaker 3>people behind her back and things. I'm very not, very

0:42:35.000 --> 0:42:37.799
<v Speaker 3>much so not proud of things that I've struggled with

0:42:37.880 --> 0:42:47.160
<v Speaker 3>my entire life, with all of my relationships, and I

0:42:47.160 --> 0:42:50.480
<v Speaker 3>have always had an inkling that I am a sex addict.

0:42:51.200 --> 0:42:55.520
<v Speaker 3>But it's like, like how an alcoholic, you know, just

0:42:55.680 --> 0:42:59.600
<v Speaker 3>has trouble facing the problems of being an alcoholic, Like

0:43:01.040 --> 0:43:06.640
<v Speaker 3>it's hard to take that first step to get into

0:43:06.640 --> 0:43:10.239
<v Speaker 3>the room and to try and get into some sort

0:43:10.280 --> 0:43:17.720
<v Speaker 3>of recovery and so, and I love her very much despite.

0:43:17.280 --> 0:43:18.720
<v Speaker 1>All of the mistakes I've made.

0:43:18.920 --> 0:43:22.040
<v Speaker 3>Despite all the lies I've told, I definitely feel a

0:43:22.080 --> 0:43:29.920
<v Speaker 3>lot of love, care, and a lot of emotion regarding

0:43:29.960 --> 0:43:36.600
<v Speaker 3>her and our relationship. And I think that the regret

0:43:36.680 --> 0:43:42.440
<v Speaker 3>that I felt from hurting her so deeply with my

0:43:42.719 --> 0:43:47.319
<v Speaker 3>addiction set me to finally take that step into those

0:43:47.400 --> 0:43:51.320
<v Speaker 3>rooms and finally admit to myself that I need help

0:43:52.120 --> 0:43:56.640
<v Speaker 3>because I'm completely powerless over this addiction, like how somebody

0:43:56.680 --> 0:44:00.399
<v Speaker 3>would be addicted to cigarettes or alcohol or something like that.

0:44:02.000 --> 0:44:08.720
<v Speaker 3>And it honestly set me down a very crazy path

0:44:08.960 --> 0:44:14.200
<v Speaker 3>of discovery, even outside of the sexual addiction, like I've

0:44:14.680 --> 0:44:18.120
<v Speaker 3>I am now over three weeks sober from weed, which

0:44:18.440 --> 0:44:21.160
<v Speaker 3>I have not taken a break from weed in over

0:44:21.360 --> 0:44:29.359
<v Speaker 3>eleven or twelve years, and I'm currently working at an

0:44:29.360 --> 0:44:35.120
<v Speaker 3>autism clinic, working with kids and doing these things to

0:44:36.560 --> 0:44:43.479
<v Speaker 3>improve my life and try, and I don't know, make

0:44:44.200 --> 0:44:49.520
<v Speaker 3>like I finally wanted to be in service of others

0:44:49.560 --> 0:44:52.799
<v Speaker 3>instead of continuing to be selfish. And because it's like

0:44:52.880 --> 0:44:58.399
<v Speaker 3>a path and a journey to recovery, like I slip up.

0:44:59.080 --> 0:45:04.160
<v Speaker 3>I have lapsed since being in the program, and I've

0:45:04.480 --> 0:45:10.560
<v Speaker 3>continued to make mistakes, but I'm still showing up today,

0:45:10.960 --> 0:45:15.800
<v Speaker 3>I actually acquired a sponsor for the first time and

0:45:16.960 --> 0:45:20.399
<v Speaker 3>reached out to somebody may made a phone call and

0:45:20.719 --> 0:45:24.600
<v Speaker 3>talked about actually starting to work on the twelve steps,

0:45:24.680 --> 0:45:27.360
<v Speaker 3>which I feel was a very big thing for me

0:45:27.400 --> 0:45:29.160
<v Speaker 3>because I had been sitting on that for a couple

0:45:29.160 --> 0:45:37.040
<v Speaker 3>of weeks now. And yeah, so, I mean it's like

0:45:39.280 --> 0:45:43.040
<v Speaker 3>it's like getting caught stealing. You know, you face the consequences.

0:45:43.080 --> 0:45:48.120
<v Speaker 3>But I also just wanted to do this for myself,

0:45:48.480 --> 0:45:51.279
<v Speaker 3>like outside of the relationship, Like I told her, like

0:45:51.840 --> 0:45:54.440
<v Speaker 3>even if she were to break up with me today,

0:45:54.800 --> 0:45:58.080
<v Speaker 3>I would still be wanting to show up to the

0:45:58.200 --> 0:46:01.560
<v Speaker 3>essay meetings and doing it for my And there were

0:46:01.640 --> 0:46:05.040
<v Speaker 3>times where like she wasn't talking to me, or like

0:46:05.520 --> 0:46:10.400
<v Speaker 3>she was taking her space, and I was at my parents' house,

0:46:10.760 --> 0:46:16.200
<v Speaker 3>sitting in my car on those Zoom meetings, trying to

0:46:17.600 --> 0:46:23.080
<v Speaker 3>trying to do something to improve these problems that I'm having.

0:46:23.960 --> 0:46:27.560
<v Speaker 2>So what how long? How long have you been with

0:46:27.600 --> 0:46:28.319
<v Speaker 2>your girlfriend for?

0:46:32.440 --> 0:46:36.400
<v Speaker 3>So we technically got together for the first time in

0:46:36.480 --> 0:46:41.200
<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty two, off and on for a little over

0:46:41.239 --> 0:46:46.719
<v Speaker 3>a year, and then broke things off around Christmas of

0:46:46.800 --> 0:46:51.040
<v Speaker 3>twenty three. I ended up dating another girl, moving down

0:46:51.120 --> 0:46:56.600
<v Speaker 3>south and being in that relationship for about a year

0:46:56.640 --> 0:47:04.080
<v Speaker 3>and a half. But because I'm a sex addict, I

0:47:04.120 --> 0:47:06.279
<v Speaker 3>did a lot of things I regretted in that relationship

0:47:06.320 --> 0:47:11.800
<v Speaker 3>as well, and I ended up feeling disconnected from that

0:47:12.600 --> 0:47:18.720
<v Speaker 3>girl and me and my girlfriend reconnected during that time,

0:47:19.560 --> 0:47:24.040
<v Speaker 3>and I started to realize that, oh shit, I still

0:47:24.040 --> 0:47:29.239
<v Speaker 3>want to be with her. So I broke things off

0:47:29.239 --> 0:47:34.120
<v Speaker 3>with the girl down south and moved back home too.

0:47:35.760 --> 0:47:38.680
<v Speaker 3>Well for a lot of reasons, but I mean, ultimately

0:47:38.719 --> 0:47:43.640
<v Speaker 3>it was to be with my girlfriend and to give

0:47:43.680 --> 0:47:47.240
<v Speaker 3>the relationship a shot after a year and a half

0:47:47.239 --> 0:47:52.640
<v Speaker 3>of being a part. And then I ended up making

0:47:52.800 --> 0:47:56.840
<v Speaker 3>the same mistakes that I keep on making throughout my

0:47:57.040 --> 0:47:57.520
<v Speaker 3>entire life.

0:47:58.120 --> 0:48:05.440
<v Speaker 2>So m h how So I mean after she discovered this,

0:48:05.640 --> 0:48:08.680
<v Speaker 2>what was her reaction and how did she.

0:48:11.520 --> 0:48:11.840
<v Speaker 3>What?

0:48:11.840 --> 0:48:13.839
<v Speaker 2>What made her come back?

0:48:17.160 --> 0:48:17.719
<v Speaker 1>That is?

0:48:17.840 --> 0:48:20.280
<v Speaker 3>Uh that second question is a good question.

0:48:21.080 --> 0:48:21.520
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

0:48:22.200 --> 0:48:28.600
<v Speaker 3>I still ponder that every day because that I'm sure

0:48:28.719 --> 0:48:30.239
<v Speaker 3>is still very hard for her.

0:48:30.960 --> 0:48:31.839
<v Speaker 2>Does she does?

0:48:31.880 --> 0:48:32.080
<v Speaker 3>She?

0:48:32.960 --> 0:48:34.280
<v Speaker 2>Does? She seem happy?

0:48:39.840 --> 0:48:40.160
<v Speaker 3>I think?

0:48:40.239 --> 0:48:42.120
<v Speaker 1>So? I mean, we have our moments.

0:48:42.560 --> 0:48:44.440
<v Speaker 3>We we have good moments, we have bad moments.

0:48:46.719 --> 0:48:47.560
<v Speaker 1>We still fight.

0:48:48.520 --> 0:48:54.960
<v Speaker 3>Ah sometimes it's just about small things. But we've always

0:48:55.000 --> 0:48:56.960
<v Speaker 3>thought about like kind of small things because the way

0:48:56.960 --> 0:48:58.520
<v Speaker 3>that we communicate is kind of different.

0:49:00.040 --> 0:49:00.880
<v Speaker 2>How how old are you?

0:49:02.120 --> 0:49:04.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm twenty nine nine?

0:49:04.440 --> 0:49:08.359
<v Speaker 2>What? Uh so? What? How if you? I mean, if

0:49:08.360 --> 0:49:09.960
<v Speaker 2>you want to talk about it, we can. We can

0:49:10.000 --> 0:49:14.040
<v Speaker 2>talk about it. Like how does your sex addiction like

0:49:14.200 --> 0:49:15.360
<v Speaker 2>manifest itself?

0:49:17.760 --> 0:49:26.439
<v Speaker 3>Uh well, I won't get into like super detailed specifics.

0:49:26.920 --> 0:49:29.880
<v Speaker 2>A lot of it, yeah, yeah, a lot of it.

0:49:30.120 --> 0:49:30.960
<v Speaker 3>A lot of it's porn.

0:49:31.040 --> 0:49:34.800
<v Speaker 1>A lot of it is uh.

0:49:33.600 --> 0:49:40.080
<v Speaker 3>Reaching out to people on like Instagram or Snapchat or

0:49:40.640 --> 0:49:45.600
<v Speaker 3>even X, you know, like sliding into d MS, trying

0:49:45.600 --> 0:49:50.359
<v Speaker 3>to initiate some sort of sexting, and a lot of

0:49:50.360 --> 0:49:56.400
<v Speaker 3>it was like OnlyFans and paying for.

0:49:56.680 --> 0:49:57.520
<v Speaker 1>Stuff like that.

0:50:00.040 --> 0:50:02.840
<v Speaker 3>And I would do it while I was in these relationships,

0:50:02.960 --> 0:50:04.719
<v Speaker 3>but I would do it while I was single as well,

0:50:05.560 --> 0:50:11.400
<v Speaker 3>And it was something I was never open about with

0:50:11.520 --> 0:50:12.840
<v Speaker 3>anybody really.

0:50:14.600 --> 0:50:16.520
<v Speaker 1>And when.

0:50:18.960 --> 0:50:21.680
<v Speaker 3>It was about it was December. It was the middle

0:50:21.680 --> 0:50:27.440
<v Speaker 3>of December. We were coming back from the gym, and

0:50:27.520 --> 0:50:30.600
<v Speaker 3>I had just pulled my car into her driveway and

0:50:30.920 --> 0:50:32.879
<v Speaker 3>it was super snowy out, or she had just pulled

0:50:32.920 --> 0:50:35.560
<v Speaker 3>her car into the driveway. It was super snowy out,

0:50:35.719 --> 0:50:37.720
<v Speaker 3>and so she wanted me to like shovel the driveway

0:50:37.760 --> 0:50:41.480
<v Speaker 3>so she can get into her driveway, and so I

0:50:41.560 --> 0:50:43.799
<v Speaker 3>gave her my phone to hold because I didn't want

0:50:43.960 --> 0:50:48.560
<v Speaker 3>my phone to get wet. And while I was shoveling

0:50:48.560 --> 0:50:54.600
<v Speaker 3>the driveway and she went inside, she ended up looking

0:50:54.600 --> 0:50:58.759
<v Speaker 3>through my phone and seeing the messages and seeing so

0:50:58.920 --> 0:51:06.799
<v Speaker 3>much and ah, she told me that I needed to

0:51:06.880 --> 0:51:10.960
<v Speaker 3>leave and gave me all of my stuff and I

0:51:11.000 --> 0:51:19.480
<v Speaker 3>had to go to my parents, and uh, as far

0:51:19.520 --> 0:51:24.640
<v Speaker 3>as the sex addiction goes, it'd be like seeking out

0:51:24.680 --> 0:51:29.120
<v Speaker 3>that or like like the only fans stuff. I mean,

0:51:29.280 --> 0:51:31.480
<v Speaker 3>like I said, a lot of it's just born, and

0:51:32.719 --> 0:51:37.959
<v Speaker 3>like seeking out like sex workers, some sex workers I knew,

0:51:40.440 --> 0:51:47.319
<v Speaker 3>like personally and that was a real like hard thing

0:51:47.480 --> 0:51:52.000
<v Speaker 3>too for her to see as well, because she knew

0:51:52.000 --> 0:51:53.200
<v Speaker 3>that I was like friends with.

0:51:53.120 --> 0:52:00.719
<v Speaker 1>These people and uh it uh.

0:52:01.480 --> 0:52:04.080
<v Speaker 3>And then she would also see like these messages of

0:52:04.120 --> 0:52:08.400
<v Speaker 3>me secting these people, uh and like sending pictures and

0:52:08.480 --> 0:52:16.319
<v Speaker 3>videos and stuff, and it escalated. I would still try

0:52:16.360 --> 0:52:22.040
<v Speaker 3>to lie and hide things, and I would even try

0:52:22.080 --> 0:52:28.879
<v Speaker 3>to lie about like my relapses, and when I would

0:52:28.960 --> 0:52:37.920
<v Speaker 3>be they call it acting out an essay. I uh I,

0:52:37.920 --> 0:52:40.319
<v Speaker 3>I would still try to hide the truth from her

0:52:40.360 --> 0:52:43.840
<v Speaker 3>because I was. I guess I feel like I was

0:52:43.920 --> 0:52:47.400
<v Speaker 3>hiding the truth for myself as well, Like even even

0:52:47.760 --> 0:52:51.000
<v Speaker 3>in the SAA meetings, like I wouldn't be fully honest

0:52:51.000 --> 0:52:56.560
<v Speaker 3>about my sobriety, and so it would be like if

0:52:57.520 --> 0:53:00.960
<v Speaker 3>you know here, hear no evil, see no evil. If

0:53:01.480 --> 0:53:03.279
<v Speaker 3>I if I don't see it anymore, if I just

0:53:03.280 --> 0:53:07.239
<v Speaker 3>delete it from my history or delete it from my

0:53:07.360 --> 0:53:13.000
<v Speaker 3>phone or whatever, then it doesn't exist. And so I

0:53:13.040 --> 0:53:15.520
<v Speaker 3>wasn't fully honest with myself or with her, and then

0:53:17.719 --> 0:53:19.840
<v Speaker 3>you know, problems just kept getting worse and worse.

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<v Speaker 2>So in the months since you've been going to these meetings,

0:53:26.920 --> 0:53:28.200
<v Speaker 2>have they been helpful?

0:53:29.560 --> 0:53:29.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:53:29.880 --> 0:53:35.279
<v Speaker 3>I think so. The first meeting that I went to

0:53:35.800 --> 0:53:42.000
<v Speaker 3>or that I attended, I said a lot of things

0:53:42.000 --> 0:53:43.480
<v Speaker 3>that I hadn't said out loud before.

0:53:45.040 --> 0:53:46.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:53:46.880 --> 0:53:52.919
<v Speaker 3>And hearing people talk about their experiences and their addictions

0:53:52.920 --> 0:53:56.920
<v Speaker 3>and the way that it manifests in them made me

0:53:57.000 --> 0:53:59.200
<v Speaker 3>feel connected to people in a way that I had

0:53:59.239 --> 0:54:02.600
<v Speaker 3>never felt before. And it made me feel like I

0:54:02.600 --> 0:54:05.439
<v Speaker 3>could be honest maybe with myself and with her more

0:54:06.080 --> 0:54:09.319
<v Speaker 3>because there's people that are struggling with this addiction more

0:54:09.360 --> 0:54:12.320
<v Speaker 3>than more than they even realize. More than anybody realizes.

0:54:13.239 --> 0:54:15.720
<v Speaker 3>And I feel like the way that the world works

0:54:15.760 --> 0:54:21.520
<v Speaker 3>nowadays is kind of like cultivated to these addictions, and

0:54:21.640 --> 0:54:25.440
<v Speaker 3>like there's things out in the world that like are

0:54:25.719 --> 0:54:30.759
<v Speaker 3>are like triggering for alcoholics, triggering for like people who

0:54:30.800 --> 0:54:34.120
<v Speaker 3>are addicted to weed or coke or whatever, you know.

0:54:34.680 --> 0:54:41.960
<v Speaker 3>But sex sells and the selling of sex is so

0:54:42.160 --> 0:54:45.800
<v Speaker 3>triggering for so many people and make it so hard

0:54:45.880 --> 0:54:51.680
<v Speaker 3>for relationships to be honest. And there's so many people

0:54:52.320 --> 0:54:57.120
<v Speaker 3>that's with themselves about like what they do, what they feel,

0:54:57.520 --> 0:55:00.799
<v Speaker 3>you know, behind their partner's back, or what they do

0:55:01.560 --> 0:55:03.640
<v Speaker 3>in their bed alone in the middle of the night

0:55:03.800 --> 0:55:07.920
<v Speaker 3>while they're scrolling on their phone, you know. And to

0:55:07.960 --> 0:55:11.000
<v Speaker 3>be in those rooms talking to these people and listening

0:55:11.000 --> 0:55:17.040
<v Speaker 3>to these people and hearing their stories is like, I

0:55:17.080 --> 0:55:19.520
<v Speaker 3>don't know, it was I cried a lot that day.

0:55:19.600 --> 0:55:22.200
<v Speaker 3>I remember crying a lot that first meeting because it

0:55:22.239 --> 0:55:27.640
<v Speaker 3>was just it was it was pretty life changing, and

0:55:27.880 --> 0:55:31.640
<v Speaker 3>I didn't realize how much I had held in from

0:55:32.000 --> 0:55:39.120
<v Speaker 3>uh like just keeping those things to myself. But you know,

0:55:39.160 --> 0:55:41.279
<v Speaker 3>you hold on to it for so long and then

0:55:42.040 --> 0:55:44.479
<v Speaker 3>you kind of just feel a little bit more free

0:55:46.000 --> 0:55:47.200
<v Speaker 3>after after you let it go.

0:55:48.040 --> 0:55:51.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean a lot of these addictions and these

0:55:51.440 --> 0:55:55.560
<v Speaker 2>things like there's it's ship that you uh feels very

0:55:57.760 --> 0:56:01.320
<v Speaker 2>m hm yeah, you you you hold you hold it alone,

0:56:03.160 --> 0:56:06.000
<v Speaker 2>like addictions in general, Like there's a lot of ship

0:56:06.120 --> 0:56:08.600
<v Speaker 2>with them where you hold them alone. And then you

0:56:08.760 --> 0:56:10.840
<v Speaker 2>get into Yeah, the whole point of these things. You

0:56:10.840 --> 0:56:12.279
<v Speaker 2>get into a room with a bunch of other people

0:56:12.280 --> 0:56:15.680
<v Speaker 2>who you know, whatever weird fucking thing you have going

0:56:15.719 --> 0:56:17.319
<v Speaker 2>on in your brain, that you can talk to them

0:56:17.480 --> 0:56:20.799
<v Speaker 2>about it, and that makes you feel like you're not

0:56:20.880 --> 0:56:27.879
<v Speaker 2>this uh individual with unique problems and uh no matter,

0:56:28.000 --> 0:56:30.040
<v Speaker 2>no matter who you are, none of your problems are

0:56:30.120 --> 0:56:36.160
<v Speaker 2>are in fact unique. She's which is good.

0:56:37.960 --> 0:56:41.680
<v Speaker 3>Hm hmm, so right, I mean sorry, you go ahead?

0:56:42.440 --> 0:56:46.799
<v Speaker 2>So do you are you still living with your girlfriend

0:56:46.880 --> 0:56:50.279
<v Speaker 2>or you? She like you're living with your parents now?

0:56:51.560 --> 0:56:54.320
<v Speaker 3>So funny enough, I was still living with my parents

0:56:54.320 --> 0:57:07.120
<v Speaker 3>whenever the discovery was made and after some time. Actually,

0:57:07.920 --> 0:57:09.680
<v Speaker 3>she's calling right now, do you mind if we cut

0:57:09.680 --> 0:57:10.280
<v Speaker 3>this short?

0:57:10.719 --> 0:57:12.839
<v Speaker 2>Go ahead? I think that's a call you should take.

0:57:13.000 --> 0:57:15.440
<v Speaker 2>But thanks for sharing with us, man. I appreciate your

0:57:15.520 --> 0:57:17.440
<v Speaker 2>vulnerability absolutely.

0:57:17.480 --> 0:57:18.240
<v Speaker 3>Thank you for calling.

0:57:18.640 --> 0:57:24.440
<v Speaker 2>Of course, take care man, you too. Hey, what's up everybody?

0:57:24.480 --> 0:57:27.280
<v Speaker 2>How's it going, how's life. I'm still wearing the headphones

0:57:27.360 --> 0:57:30.200
<v Speaker 2>that I was using to talk to the callers, so

0:57:30.240 --> 0:57:34.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna take them off, and this is okay. So

0:57:34.600 --> 0:57:38.080
<v Speaker 2>this is uh, I'm doing. Gek mail. If you're new

0:57:38.120 --> 0:57:42.160
<v Speaker 2>to the podcast, gek mail is when I end the

0:57:42.200 --> 0:57:45.040
<v Speaker 2>phone call part of the podcast by taking a few

0:57:46.040 --> 0:57:53.280
<v Speaker 2>viewer emails and reading them and maybe providing some feedback

0:57:53.320 --> 0:57:55.400
<v Speaker 2>on them, maybe just reading them. I don't have to

0:57:55.400 --> 0:58:00.280
<v Speaker 2>have feedback about everything. I don't know everything. So this

0:58:00.320 --> 0:58:02.560
<v Speaker 2>is a gekmail. If you want to submit a gekmail,

0:58:02.680 --> 0:58:09.160
<v Speaker 2>you can send an email to therapy gecko mail dot com.

0:58:09.280 --> 0:58:13.320
<v Speaker 2>That's therapy geckomail dot com. If you want to send

0:58:13.320 --> 0:58:17.680
<v Speaker 2>an email Therapy Gecko. Wait, crap, No, I'm an uh okay,

0:58:17.800 --> 0:58:21.400
<v Speaker 2>therapy go goo mail at gmail dot com. I'm an idiot,

0:58:21.400 --> 0:58:25.760
<v Speaker 2>all right, you send it email, So therapy gotomail at

0:58:25.760 --> 0:58:29.320
<v Speaker 2>gmail dot com. Sorry, I'm tired. Therapy got go tour

0:58:29.400 --> 0:58:32.080
<v Speaker 2>dot com is where you go to buy tickets to

0:58:32.120 --> 0:58:33.960
<v Speaker 2>my tour. But I did not actually I did not

0:58:34.160 --> 0:58:37.400
<v Speaker 2>mean to promote the tour right now. I wanted to

0:58:37.440 --> 0:58:41.480
<v Speaker 2>actually tell you where you could send an email. All right,

0:58:41.720 --> 0:58:44.960
<v Speaker 2>let's just let's read a few of these emails and

0:58:45.000 --> 0:58:49.960
<v Speaker 2>then you guys can go home. All right. This is

0:58:50.040 --> 0:58:58.560
<v Speaker 2>from Lily, subject line our friends supposed to kind of suck. Oh,

0:58:58.600 --> 0:59:01.520
<v Speaker 2>it's an interesting topic. I like this topic. Let's get

0:59:01.560 --> 0:59:01.880
<v Speaker 2>into this.

0:59:02.000 --> 0:59:02.320
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

0:59:03.080 --> 0:59:05.880
<v Speaker 2>Hello, ghak, Hope you're doing well. Currently sitting on the

0:59:05.960 --> 0:59:10.560
<v Speaker 2>kitchen floor pondering about friendships. I remember as a kid

0:59:10.840 --> 0:59:13.200
<v Speaker 2>that my friends and I could just get along and

0:59:13.240 --> 0:59:16.320
<v Speaker 2>things were kind of easy. Now that I've turned twenty,

0:59:17.000 --> 0:59:19.200
<v Speaker 2>I feel as though every friend I make there's always

0:59:19.200 --> 0:59:21.880
<v Speaker 2>a downside or things they do that make me annoyed

0:59:21.960 --> 0:59:27.320
<v Speaker 2>or upset. Examples being being pushy and crossing boundaries, making

0:59:27.360 --> 0:59:30.760
<v Speaker 2>me feel bad for not enjoying certain things, getting pissed

0:59:30.800 --> 0:59:35.400
<v Speaker 2>off at minor disagreements we have, etc. Maybe it's just

0:59:35.520 --> 0:59:37.600
<v Speaker 2>part of growing up, and now that we are more mature,

0:59:37.680 --> 0:59:40.000
<v Speaker 2>we notice these things more. But I'm hoping this isn't

0:59:40.080 --> 0:59:42.840
<v Speaker 2>just something you have to deal with in friendships. I

0:59:42.880 --> 0:59:45.040
<v Speaker 2>feel like for quite a while, I haven't found someone

0:59:45.040 --> 0:59:47.880
<v Speaker 2>who I just click with and isn't a mean person

0:59:48.000 --> 0:59:50.840
<v Speaker 2>in one way or another. Maybe I'm too picky or

0:59:50.840 --> 0:59:54.640
<v Speaker 2>overly sensitive. Maybe every human is too multifaceted to have

0:59:54.720 --> 0:59:58.640
<v Speaker 2>perfect relationships to begin with, I'm not sure. I'm probably

0:59:58.640 --> 1:00:01.560
<v Speaker 2>a bit blinded by nostala, But even then, my main

1:00:01.640 --> 1:00:05.080
<v Speaker 2>question still stands are we meant to just put up

1:00:05.080 --> 1:00:09.120
<v Speaker 2>with things here and there like this to have friends

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<v Speaker 2>love the podcast? As a psychology major, I'm very jealous

1:00:12.760 --> 1:00:14.520
<v Speaker 2>of you, as you have my dream job of talking

1:00:14.520 --> 1:00:20.600
<v Speaker 2>to people stay safe, glowing regards, how nice, how nice

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<v Speaker 2>glowing regards, Lily, I have a I have a multifaceted

1:00:27.680 --> 1:00:29.880
<v Speaker 2>way of thinking about this because here's the thing I have.

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<v Speaker 2>There's people in my life that I have been in

1:00:39.080 --> 1:00:43.680
<v Speaker 2>my life for a long time who I consider some

1:00:43.760 --> 1:00:47.200
<v Speaker 2>of my best friends. There's people in my life I

1:00:47.200 --> 1:00:51.600
<v Speaker 2>consider some of the people I love, people who if

1:00:51.920 --> 1:00:54.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't call them for the next twenty years and

1:00:54.720 --> 1:00:57.000
<v Speaker 2>I call them, they'll pick up and be like, Hey,

1:00:57.280 --> 1:00:59.000
<v Speaker 2>what's up? What have you been doing? You know that

1:00:59.080 --> 1:01:01.360
<v Speaker 2>I there's people like out of my life and those

1:01:01.360 --> 1:01:06.160
<v Speaker 2>people are deeply, deeply important to me. And some of

1:01:06.160 --> 1:01:09.680
<v Speaker 2>those people are fucking assholes. They just are assholes. There's

1:01:09.800 --> 1:01:13.720
<v Speaker 2>just you have Sometimes you just have an asshole in

1:01:13.760 --> 1:01:18.440
<v Speaker 2>your life. Who you are They're just one of your

1:01:18.440 --> 1:01:22.280
<v Speaker 2>best friends. You don't have to if you you don't

1:01:22.320 --> 1:01:25.640
<v Speaker 2>have to be around them twenty four to seven or

1:01:26.400 --> 1:01:31.520
<v Speaker 2>take everything to them, or you know, spend an amount

1:01:31.520 --> 1:01:36.400
<v Speaker 2>of time with them that makes you feel sad, Right,

1:01:36.760 --> 1:01:39.560
<v Speaker 2>But uh, sometimes it's it's okay to just have someone

1:01:39.600 --> 1:01:41.200
<v Speaker 2>in your life who's kind of an asshole. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think that that's I don't think you should be like

1:01:45.800 --> 1:01:49.440
<v Speaker 2>married or dating an asshole, or like in biz in

1:01:49.880 --> 1:01:57.280
<v Speaker 2>direct business with an asshole, or or like, uh, you know,

1:01:57.320 --> 1:01:59.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about like people who are like really like

1:01:59.120 --> 1:02:01.960
<v Speaker 2>in the every day to day facet of your life.

1:02:02.320 --> 1:02:05.640
<v Speaker 2>Those people shouldn't be assholes. But it's okay to have

1:02:05.920 --> 1:02:08.800
<v Speaker 2>people in your life that you're great friends with that

1:02:08.840 --> 1:02:10.960
<v Speaker 2>you kind of think are jerks.

1:02:10.000 --> 1:02:10.800
<v Speaker 3>It's it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Something that you can put up with. Now the problem

1:02:14.640 --> 1:02:18.000
<v Speaker 2>becomes okay. So if we don't want those kinds of

1:02:18.000 --> 1:02:21.880
<v Speaker 2>people to be like our literal, like day to day people,

1:02:21.960 --> 1:02:24.320
<v Speaker 2>if we want better out of our day to day people,

1:02:24.720 --> 1:02:30.360
<v Speaker 2>well then that's a different story. That is something where

1:02:31.000 --> 1:02:35.440
<v Speaker 2>we want those people to be people with Click with now, Lily, specifically,

1:02:35.600 --> 1:02:41.840
<v Speaker 2>you're twenty so as of yours. So here's the thing, Lily,

1:02:41.880 --> 1:02:45.280
<v Speaker 2>when you're twenty. As of pretty much your entire life,

1:02:45.680 --> 1:02:49.000
<v Speaker 2>the people around you have been the people around you

1:02:49.520 --> 1:02:53.840
<v Speaker 2>because they're the people around you. You get what I'm saying, Like,

1:02:53.880 --> 1:02:58.920
<v Speaker 2>when you're in high school, you're with those kids and

1:02:58.960 --> 1:03:01.440
<v Speaker 2>you're friends with them because because they are they're literally

1:03:01.480 --> 1:03:05.640
<v Speaker 2>because they're the people around you. I grew really close

1:03:05.680 --> 1:03:08.040
<v Speaker 2>with my high school friends because we all grew together,

1:03:08.080 --> 1:03:12.760
<v Speaker 2>and we all grew our senses of who we are

1:03:12.800 --> 1:03:17.200
<v Speaker 2>and what we are find funny and our sensibilities together.

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<v Speaker 2>But now that I'm like an adult in the world,

1:03:23.400 --> 1:03:27.120
<v Speaker 2>I tend to intentionally put myself in certain places and

1:03:27.160 --> 1:03:30.000
<v Speaker 2>situations where it is likely for me to find people

1:03:30.000 --> 1:03:35.200
<v Speaker 2>who are, you know, more suited to my sensibilities and

1:03:35.240 --> 1:03:38.600
<v Speaker 2>who I might have better relationships with, as opposed to

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<v Speaker 2>in high school and some of college where it's just

1:03:43.360 --> 1:03:46.360
<v Speaker 2>whoever's fucking around. So, of course you haven't found someone

1:03:46.400 --> 1:03:50.000
<v Speaker 2>that you click with just yet. But also the good

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<v Speaker 2>news is, and the thing you have to keep in mind,

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<v Speaker 2>is that the people you went to high school with

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<v Speaker 2>are not a sample size of the universe. They're pretty

1:03:57.280 --> 1:04:01.400
<v Speaker 2>your high school friends are a terrible sample size of

1:04:01.440 --> 1:04:05.120
<v Speaker 2>the universe, and you should absolutely, in no way, shape

1:04:05.240 --> 1:04:09.920
<v Speaker 2>or form. When you're twenty take the people you went

1:04:09.960 --> 1:04:12.160
<v Speaker 2>to high school with and use them as the sample

1:04:12.200 --> 1:04:14.160
<v Speaker 2>size of the universe. It's a bad thing to do

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<v Speaker 2>if you do that. It goes back to what I

1:04:16.440 --> 1:04:19.360
<v Speaker 2>was saying to you know, I'm always talking about it,

1:04:19.360 --> 1:04:22.520
<v Speaker 2>and I really do feel this way of like finding

1:04:22.520 --> 1:04:24.440
<v Speaker 2>what you're looking for, you know what I mean. So

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<v Speaker 2>if you again go into the world being like well,

1:04:26.840 --> 1:04:29.400
<v Speaker 2>friendship is when somebody is an asshole to you and

1:04:29.480 --> 1:04:32.720
<v Speaker 2>you put up with it, then those are the friendships

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<v Speaker 2>that you're going to find. Also, again, balance that with

1:04:41.280 --> 1:04:46.680
<v Speaker 2>the political reality that sometimes there's just an asshole in

1:04:46.720 --> 1:04:51.000
<v Speaker 2>your life and that's fine. You know, you'd know your

1:04:51.160 --> 1:04:54.520
<v Speaker 2>life doesn't have to be perfect, you know what I mean,

1:04:55.200 --> 1:04:57.439
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't have to be Uh you said maybe even

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<v Speaker 2>you said here yourself, you said, maybe every human and

1:05:00.200 --> 1:05:07.600
<v Speaker 2>is too multifaceted to have perfect relationships. I agree with that. Yeah,

1:05:08.200 --> 1:05:13.680
<v Speaker 2>having perfect relationships is not We're too human to be perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>But you should at minimum enjoy being around the people

1:05:17.200 --> 1:05:22.320
<v Speaker 2>that you're around regularly. So go do some shiit with

1:05:22.360 --> 1:05:26.280
<v Speaker 2>your life that involves being around to the people and

1:05:26.320 --> 1:05:30.720
<v Speaker 2>being around to the people who like the same things

1:05:30.720 --> 1:05:33.680
<v Speaker 2>that you like, and then naturally you'll make friends. But

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<v Speaker 2>you're probably too young to fully have developed a proper

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<v Speaker 2>idea of what people are capable of, of what people

1:05:44.040 --> 1:05:48.360
<v Speaker 2>are capable of being to you. You know you have.

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<v Speaker 2>If all your friends are kind of jerks, then you again,

1:05:54.560 --> 1:05:57.440
<v Speaker 2>you you'll you're, you're, you'll be closed off to the

1:05:57.720 --> 1:05:59.960
<v Speaker 2>mere idea that you could be friends with someone that

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<v Speaker 2>it's not a jerk. So that's just my thought on

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<v Speaker 2>that where we're gonna do it. Oh, okay, here we go.

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<v Speaker 2>This is from Mike. Subject line, am I insane? All right?

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<v Speaker 2>I like this, dude, Fuck this fucking goddamn fuck fuck Meta,

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<v Speaker 2>fuck fuck Gemini AI fuck AI. Dude, this is bullshit.

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<v Speaker 2>It's I hate this. There's like a suggested reply underneath

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<v Speaker 2>the email. I think that shits so fucking annoying. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>hold on, let me read the email. Uh okay, hi, gek,

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<v Speaker 2>I got my license today. But that's not the topic.

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<v Speaker 2>All right then, whatever. I'm seventeen. When I was thirteen,

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<v Speaker 2>the day I got off of suspension for fighting someone,

1:06:56.920 --> 1:07:00.240
<v Speaker 2>my mom got into an argument with our neighbors. A

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<v Speaker 2>fight happened, their kid beat my mom with a stick.

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus Christ. She had huge lumps on her head for weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw her after the cops got there, and I screamed.

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<v Speaker 2>I was so mad. I promised her right there I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't let them get away with that. That fucking sucks

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<v Speaker 2>and I still think about it to this day. I

1:07:22.440 --> 1:07:26.160
<v Speaker 2>think insane thoughts about how I would get back at them.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Ghek.

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<v Speaker 2>It keeps me up at night. I just don't want

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<v Speaker 2>my mom hurt again, and it hurts me I couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>help her. Please let me know if you respond. Okay,

1:07:43.760 --> 1:07:48.760
<v Speaker 2>the AI suggested this is annoying. Yet Google. Google has

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<v Speaker 2>a thing where you can Google has a stupid fucking

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<v Speaker 2>thing where they can suggest it suggests replies to the

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<v Speaker 2>email Hey, it says, hey, my congrats on the license.

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<v Speaker 2>Know you are not insane. Man. It sounds like a

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<v Speaker 2>really intense and upsetting thing to witness as a kid.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes total sense that you still think about it

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<v Speaker 2>and feel protective of your mom. It's okay to have

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<v Speaker 2>those feelings when you feel like someone was wrong and

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<v Speaker 2>you can step in. I hate reading a thing that

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<v Speaker 2>AI wrote, but I'm just reading it. Blah blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep listening, man, we got you know that's fucked up.

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<v Speaker 2>Just write the fucking I've talked on this podcast for

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<v Speaker 2>I talked to AI like it, like it's helpful in

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of ways, but I don't like it. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't like. I don't this feels like weird, Like this

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<v Speaker 2>feels like fake, weird, annoying shit, like like I'll use

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<v Speaker 2>it to like help me fucking figure out knowledge of

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<v Speaker 2>things that I don't know, but like with what I

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<v Speaker 2>don't like it? Like, I don't. I don't like it

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<v Speaker 2>mimicking being a person and like using it to like

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<v Speaker 2>fake someone out that you replied to them. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's stupid. How do I get rid of this? Send feedback?

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<v Speaker 2>How do I make it so this doesn't pop up again?

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<v Speaker 2>There's no fucking dude, fuck Google. There's no button that

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<v Speaker 2>I can just press that goes, hey, don't do this

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<v Speaker 2>stupid shit anymore? Okay, hold on, how do I turn

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<v Speaker 2>this off? Whatever? All right? Who cares? I don't like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like looking at I don't like what it's

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<v Speaker 2>on this. I don't want it to be underneath this

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<v Speaker 2>email as I try to respond to it all right, Mike,

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<v Speaker 2>let's team up. You go get revenge on the people

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<v Speaker 2>who fucking coded this feature into my Gmail account, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'll go beat up those kids. You Mike, you I'll

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<v Speaker 2>do a deal with you. It's like strangers on a train.

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<v Speaker 2>You go beat the shit out of whoever engineered this

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<v Speaker 2>stupid AI tool, and I'll beat up those kids that

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<v Speaker 2>fucked with your mom. We have a deal. Uh no,

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<v Speaker 2>m yeah, of course, you know. Listen, that's fuck. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to just say what AI said. I was

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<v Speaker 2>gonna say something similar beforehand. M Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike. No,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not You're not insane. I Your rage makes perfect sense,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're you're you're a sweet kid for wanting to

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<v Speaker 2>protect your mom, you know what I mean. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>don't go kill bill on these motherfuckers. Uh. That's probably

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<v Speaker 2>only gonna put you guys in more danger. So no,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not insane. You gotta go talk to a real therapist. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how you get those feelings out. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean you you know, look, you're you're seventeen, You're still

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<v Speaker 2>like living with your mom and being with her, so

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<v Speaker 2>like fucking here's what I would suggestify were you, Mike,

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<v Speaker 2>is all this rage that you have just transmute it

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<v Speaker 2>into like being with your mom, dude, and like just

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<v Speaker 2>you know, spending time with her, being there for her,

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<v Speaker 2>trying to take care of her the best that you can.

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<v Speaker 2>And that way, you know you're filling yourself with love

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<v Speaker 2>instead of like rage and anger. However justified the rage

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<v Speaker 2>and anger may be so, so hang in there, Mike

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<v Speaker 2>and let me know how it goes. Finding and destroying.

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<v Speaker 2>Whoever added this fucking apocalyptic piece of shit suggest a

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<v Speaker 2>reply thing in my Gmail? Okay? Is that it? No,

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<v Speaker 2>let's read it one more.

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<v Speaker 3>We can't.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't be it. All right, let's see. This is

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<v Speaker 2>from Fuck. It's on this one too. Fuck you God?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I'm not going to read it this all right? Sorry, Sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>this is derailing the podcast. This is from Donald, subject

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<v Speaker 2>line crazy Love. Hey Gecko Man, I love your podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>I always listen while I'm at work and it's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>You can call me don or Donald, I don't mind.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to email about my love story and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>if you have some advice that would be lovely. I'm twenty,

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<v Speaker 2>I will be twenty one this year. My girlfriend is

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen she lives a thousand miles away, and it sucks.

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<v Speaker 2>But she came to my home state of Michigan, and

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<v Speaker 2>it felt so natural and so perfect. I'm planning a

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<v Speaker 2>trip this year to Colorado, which is where she's from.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why I'm reading it in this accent,

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<v Speaker 2>but this is what I imagine this guy sounds like. Now

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a little worried for the future. But now I'm

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<v Speaker 2>doing the accent more now that I'm aware of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a little worried for the future because she wants

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<v Speaker 2>to move to Alaska or Missouri. I personally don't want to,

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<v Speaker 2>especially not Lit. I personally don't want to, especially not Alaska.

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<v Speaker 2>Too cold for me. I want her to move to Michigan.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not even what people in Michigan sound like.

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<v Speaker 2>I want her to move to Michigan because it's a

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<v Speaker 2>mix of super cold and sometimes super hot. She did

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<v Speaker 2>say she'd enjoyed it here, so that's a good thing.

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<v Speaker 2>We really love each other and I've been together for

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<v Speaker 2>over six months and it feels great. I'm just asking

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<v Speaker 2>your opinion on what to do if I should take

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<v Speaker 2>the leap and move in with her, or should I

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<v Speaker 2>try to have her come here. Thank you sincerely. Don, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>here's what I would do if I were you? Is

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<v Speaker 2>I would kind of You're twenty, she's nineteen. What do

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<v Speaker 2>you want to do with your life?

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<v Speaker 3>Donald?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you want to do with your life?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>You should have a bit of an idea of what you,

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<v Speaker 2>independently of this woman want to do with your life.

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<v Speaker 2>She should have an idea of what she, independently as

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<v Speaker 2>her own person, wants to do with her life. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>are you guys going are you going to college? Are

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<v Speaker 2>you getting a job? Are you gonna do it?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you what do you like? What are you

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do? You know what I mean? So, like, here's

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<v Speaker 2>what you should do each You should map out what

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<v Speaker 2>you two want to do with your lives separately from

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<v Speaker 2>each other, Okay, and really really don't think about each

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<v Speaker 2>other at all until you've mapped that out. And then

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<v Speaker 2>once you have that mapped out, come together and go,

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<v Speaker 2>do we feel like each of our individual ideas of

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<v Speaker 2>what we want to do with our lives are somehow

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<v Speaker 2>compatible for us to have a shared vision of our

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<v Speaker 2>future together? And if so, then fucking great. And the

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<v Speaker 2>details of where to live and what to fucking do

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<v Speaker 2>and blah blah blah will work itself out, and if not,

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<v Speaker 2>it's okay because you're fucking will be because you're twenty

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<v Speaker 2>and nineteen. So just have your own ideas of what

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<v Speaker 2>you want each other with, what you want your life

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<v Speaker 2>to be as individuals, and then you might get lucky

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<v Speaker 2>and there's a shared vision of the future there and

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<v Speaker 2>that could be an amazing, beautiful, awesome thing. But you

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<v Speaker 2>should have your own ideas of what you want your

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<v Speaker 2>life to be like so that you don't end up

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<v Speaker 2>having regrets or resentments towards each other. All right, that's

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<v Speaker 2>this was a very serious episode of Therapy Gecko. I

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<v Speaker 2>gave a lot of advice. I don't know why I

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<v Speaker 2>did that. I'm in a room with no windows. It's

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<v Speaker 2>ten pm, it's Saturday night, and I'm gonna I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>go destroy a building. No, I'm not go to therapy

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<v Speaker 2>geckotour dot com. I there's tickets available to some of

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<v Speaker 2>the dates. Some of the dates are just RSVP, but uh,

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully by mid February I'll have a full announce of

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<v Speaker 2>all the cities and all the dates and whatnot. But

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<v Speaker 2>some some places you can get tickets to and now.

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<v Speaker 2>But just go to therapy Gecko tour dot com and

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<v Speaker 2>go check if your thing is on the thing, if

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<v Speaker 2>your city is on the thing, and you should come

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<v Speaker 2>to the shows. They'll they'll be fun. I'm working on

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<v Speaker 2>material for them and they will be a good time.

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<v Speaker 2>I just got back from Ukraine on Tuesday and I

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<v Speaker 2>am working on a documentary about that that I should

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<v Speaker 2>fucking hopefully get done in the next two months on

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<v Speaker 2>YouTube dot com slash lyle Forever. Uh. That's it for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go home. Thank you guys for listening to

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<v Speaker 2>this podcast. Ghek bless you all and have a good

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<v Speaker 2>rest of your entire life. Weak and goes on the

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<v Speaker 2>line taking your phone calls every night every week and

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<v Speaker 2>goes to just teaching news your line

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<v Speaker 1>An expert