1 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: Hey, you welcome to the short stuff. I'm Josh. There's Chuck. 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: We're Josh where Juck doesn't matter. And this is stuff 3 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: you should know? Is it short stuff? Yeah? Short stuff 4 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: you should know. Man, my mind, Chuck, You're right. No, Okay, 5 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: let's continue. Okay, we're talking about Centralia. Yeah, which we've 6 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: talked about before. I don't know if it was in 7 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: an Abandoned Places episode or I think that I don't 8 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: remember what else we would have talked about it in. 9 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: But we have definitely talked about it. Yeah, unless we 10 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: talked about Cole maybe, but um that that's the then 11 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: diagram of abandoned places and coal uh Sits Centralia, Pennsylvania, 12 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: the very smallest municipality in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, and 13 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: it is a former mining community a couple of hours 14 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: northwest of phil Lee. That there was always a small town, 15 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: a small mining town it. I think it only had 16 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,839 Speaker 1: about four hundred people there in the early nineteen sixties, 17 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 1: but now there are less than ten people for one 18 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:17,199 Speaker 1: very scary reason. And what is that. Well, the scary 19 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: reason is that when you're walking around Centralia, the earth 20 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: may open up and swallow you into a fiery pit 21 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: at any given moment without anyone. Yeah, how's that good 22 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: way to say it? Thank you? Uh yeah, So what's 23 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: what happened, Well, we don't know exactly what happened. There's 24 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: a few different versions of this story that will go 25 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: over in a second, but the end result of each 26 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: of these stories is that in nineteen sixty two, there 27 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: is uh still burning from that year a coal seam 28 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: fire literally coal on fire underground under Centralia in the 29 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: surrounding area of Centralia, Pennsylvania, right, which is I mean, 30 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: that's a very alarming thing because I think any person 31 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 1: who hears that says, well, how would you put one 32 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: of those out? And the answer to that is, by 33 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: the time it's been burning for seventy years, you don't 34 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: burns itself out. And then an average reasonable person would 35 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: be like, wait, wait, well there's a lot of coal underground. 36 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: Can it just keep burning like indefinitely? And the answer 37 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:31,519 Speaker 1: to that reasonable person is absolutely so. Uh. These seams 38 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: um are naturally occurring coal deposits. They're called seams in 39 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: the industry. Uh. They're sort of like veins that run 40 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: through the earth that are made of coal, and they 41 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: can It's it's not like this is a rare thing. 42 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: Coal seam fires happen a lot, and can happen all 43 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: over and do happen all over the world. I had 44 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: no idea. I mean, I've known about centrally as fire 45 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: for many, many years, but I had no idea that 46 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:01,679 Speaker 1: this is a very common thing. It's very alarming. Really, Centralia, 47 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: what did I say? You said to Centralia? And you 48 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: don't want to anger those ten people. Uh, it's like 49 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: saying Nevada. Which way? Do they not like it? They say, 50 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: only people in Nevada call it Nevada? Okay, Yeah, everybody 51 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 1: else calls it Nevada. Really makes them mad. I don't 52 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: want to do that to the people of good people 53 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 1: of Centralia, altend of them. So I'm just gonna call 54 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 1: it c Town then to cover my basis. Yeah, okay, 55 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: because now if I if I just spend time thinking 56 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: about it, it'll just totally derail this whole episode. Let's 57 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: go back to coal seam fire. So they're very common, 58 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: Like you said, apparently in China, um something like, well, 59 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: there's a three thousand miles stretch of a coal mining 60 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: belt around China, and I guess at any given time, 61 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: a pretty decent proportion of it is on fire with 62 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: these coal seam fires, which is problematic. There's a town 63 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: in India called jahari H and it has had a 64 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: coal seam fire going on since nineteen eighteen and has 65 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: lost something like forty one million tons of coal to 66 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: this fire just up and smoke quite literally. Yeah. Uh, 67 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: obviously this happens more often if the miners didn't do 68 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: the right thing when they left. So like they're down 69 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: there mining and they've got these tunnels and you've got 70 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: to take care of that stuff when you leave. You 71 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: can't just say all right, we're out of here and 72 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: put the confishient sign out front. Well, unfortunately a lot 73 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 1: of mine owners have done that for a very long time. Yeah, 74 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: absolutely so. Um, if you don't have like the right supports, 75 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: uh to keep the ground from collapsing, that can be 76 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: a fire risk as well. Get a film in I 77 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: saw also chuck that. Um. There's this company that developed 78 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: what they call a cellular foam. It's actually a mixture 79 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: of Portland's cement and fly ash, which is a very 80 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: difficult ways to get rid of and so my their 81 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: stuff and it's a foam you can spray on whatever 82 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: coals left over um and it will prevent this fire 83 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: from these fires from catching, which is a really great thing. 84 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: And also it gets rid of like I said, that 85 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: fly waste or fly ash waste, that's that's tough to 86 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: um remediate on its own. So you're killing two birds 87 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: with one stone. But one of the reasons that you 88 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: would want to seal off whatever coal seam is left 89 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: after you abandon the mind is because it's not just 90 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: dipstick humans who set coal seam fires like they can 91 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: happen quite naturally too. And then because that's a very 92 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: tantalizing thing to say, I suggest, Chuck that we take 93 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: an am break right now. All right, let's do it 94 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 1: all right now? Is the payoff everybody. Coal seam fires 95 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: can start under natural circumstances, go, Chuck, Yeah, they are. 96 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: They can even spontaneously combust. Uh. And once they get going, 97 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 1: especially this anthracite coal, it is very very hard to 98 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: put out. Um produces a lot of heat, and that 99 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: that's self heat. It it just sort of is a 100 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: cyclical thing. It just sort of stays on fire. And 101 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: that's why when you're shipping coal, uh, it's you know, 102 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: it's dangerous to ship coal when they get all those 103 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: big steamerships. It's dangerous, yeah, because the the as the 104 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 1: coal oxidizes, I think Piet Pie write um inside the 105 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: coal as it oxidizes, it starts to heat up. So 106 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 1: the coal can heat up from inside out, and it 107 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 1: can get hot enough that it can actually self ignite 108 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 1: spontaneously combust like you were saying, So, imagine having like 109 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: a tanker ship full of coal and your sailor on 110 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: that ship, and you are fully aware that coal can 111 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: spontaneously ignite. Wouldn't you be nervous? That'd be a little 112 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: nerve breaking, especially because so you know that that ship 113 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: is on fire in San Diego, the Navy ship right now, right, 114 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: and they were saying that it's reaching temperatures of about 115 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: a thousand degrees fahrenheit and it was melting steel. It 116 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: was that hot. Well, friend, that coal seam fire in Centralia, 117 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: Did I say it right? Centralia? Man Um. It has 118 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: been shown to reach at least temperatures of fifty degrees 119 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: which is something like seven two degrees celsius. So if 120 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: that happened on your ship, it would definitely burn a 121 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: hole right through your ship and you would be sunk 122 00:07:56,360 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: down to Davy Jones locker. Yeah, so how this thing starts? Did? 123 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: There are a few different versions. Um, my money is 124 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: on probably the most popular version, which was on sixty 125 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: two they burned a landfill on purpose. This was something 126 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:16,239 Speaker 1: that that you know, would happen regularly as you would 127 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: burn the trash literally and that this trash burn kind 128 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: of got into that coal seam and boom, there you 129 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: have it, and it started a fire that has never 130 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: been put out to this day. Um. Other versions of 131 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: the story was that it was another garbage fire and 132 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: not that one on let by a truck driver. Uh. 133 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: And then another one is that it started in the 134 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: nineteen thirties I think and has just been around, and 135 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: then in the nineteen sixties it was kind of noticed 136 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: for the first time. I like that one myself. Oh yeah, yeah. 137 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: The idea that it was kind of smoldering and then 138 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you know, maybe a flapper through 139 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: there cigarette I could totally see that. Sure, that might 140 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: be sexist though, so let's just say it could have 141 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: been a flapper or a boy toy. Okay. Either way, though, 142 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: that thing caught on fire started sweeping through those tunnels. Um, 143 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: we're talking a hundred to three hundred feet down below. 144 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: The earth is still on fire. You can still see 145 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: it today. There's some cool little short version YouTube documentaries 146 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: where news crews have gone out and stuff about Centralia, 147 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: and on rainy days, you just you stand there, especially 148 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: on rainy days, and you just see that steam and 149 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: smoke coming out from the earth itself. Um, which is 150 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: why one reason why it gave rise to the video 151 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: game and then later on the movie Silent Hill. It's 152 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: just this creepy abandoned town. Although the astounding thing is 153 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: that it's not fully abandoned, like you said, there are 154 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: some people. They're still. I think there's ten people that 155 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: live there still, and they live there because they basically 156 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: said I'm not moving. And so the government of Pennsylvania 157 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: finally said, fine, you you guys, you lifelong residents of 158 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 1: original residents of Centralia, you can stay here until you 159 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: and what you say in chill, I said, Centralia, Centralia again. 160 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't care anymore. I'm sorry, I'm 161 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: sorry people of c Town. I'm mispronouncing your name. I'm 162 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: offending ten people right now. Well, the government tried to 163 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: get them out of there. Um, they took away their 164 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: zip code in two thousand two. They were like, sorry, 165 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: no zip code. Uh. I don't know if they were 166 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: like we need that for somewhere else or we're just 167 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: retiring it. It's a big burn, no pun intended. They 168 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: took away Route sixty one or part of it. At 169 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: least it ran through there, and some people say it's 170 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: closed for other other people say like it could reopen 171 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: again one day. I don't think it will. Know who 172 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: says it could reopen one day, that's ridiculous. And one 173 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: of those documentaries and like, you know, the idea was 174 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 1: if this and gets under control, they could rebuild the 175 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: road and no Centralie one reason why they decided to 176 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: move everybody out of there, and it was done with 177 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: taxpayer funded basically like moving fund everyone has given a pope. Well, 178 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: the reason why they started moving everybody think in the 179 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 1: early eighties some kid was playing in one of the 180 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 1: streets and the street just collapsed under him and he 181 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: was hanging by his fingers above this like burning pit 182 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: that he was about to drop into, and they're like, okay, 183 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: I don't think Centralie is safe to live in. That 184 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: was forty years ago, so the town has done nothing 185 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: but get more unstable since then, so that at the 186 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: very least that highway is not opening back up. They've 187 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 1: also demolished buildings there too. You know what actually happened 188 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: to that kid? What is he went to investigate some smoke, uh, 189 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: and the thing exploded and shot him fifty ft up 190 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: into the air. I think it was a different kid, 191 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: was it? I don't know? And like the idea that 192 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: I got something wrong, man, And it just so happened 193 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: to be on the same day that a bunch of 194 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 1: news crews and local politicians were there, and that was 195 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: not a good look at all. The kid lived by 196 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 1: the way, Well, the kid lived in my version too. Yeah, 197 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 1: that's good. They've tried a bunch of things over the 198 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: years to extinguish it. They put vent pipes in in 199 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 1: the eighties, and the idea there was not to put 200 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: out the fire, but to direct these noxious gases because 201 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: you know, there's all kinds of nasty stuff being put 202 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: into the air, to vent those at least away from 203 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: the town. And some people said that's not working, and 204 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: in fact it's feeding the fire with oxygen. So they 205 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: sealed them up a right, So where does that leave us? Chuck. Well, 206 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: they've also tried to put it out altogether. They dug 207 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: it's sort of like a firebreak. They dug a trent 208 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: down to try and reach that seam in front of 209 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: the fire, but the fire went so fast they didn't 210 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: go far enough ahead. It beat them to where they 211 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: were digging down and they just went nuts. Right, But 212 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: apparently that's like, um, that's kind of par for the course. 213 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: Like that. You they're just really tough to put out. 214 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: You can kind of understand how that would be the 215 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: case from from what I've read. You have to stay 216 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: on top of it immediately after you noticed this and 217 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: then continue monitoring it basically indefinitely, because it can just 218 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: keep flaring up. And in fact, there's a there's something 219 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: called burning mountain Mount Wingin or Winging in New South Wales, 220 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: Australia that they think has been burning for six thousand 221 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: years now. Really yeah, really, man, Well that's scary stuff. 222 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: I think so too. But that was a good one, 223 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: don't you think I think it was great? Great? Well, 224 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 1: we hope that you think the same thing too. 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