WEBVTT - Ep. 156: BEAR GREASE [RENDER] - The Element Guys 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:16.120 My name is Clay Nukeleman. 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:19.400 This is a production of the Bear Grease podcast called 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:23.759 The Bear Grease Render, where we render down, dive deeper, 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:27.560 and look behind the scenes of the actual bear Grease 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:33.920 podcast presented by f HF Gear, American made purpose built 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:37.599 hunting and fishing gear that's designed to be as rugged 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:39.320 as the place as we explore. 0:00:43.640 --> 0:00:48.120 Welcome to the Bear Grease Render. My, oh, my man. 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:53.159 Today is different than probably anything we've ever done. Usually 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:59.560 Casey and Tyler we have spoiler alert. Usually we have 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:03.480 like six people on the Bear Grease Render. Six people, 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:06.800 which is a lot of fun. But you guys are 0:01:06.840 --> 0:01:10.720 so much fun that there's only three of us here. 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:12.440 We can eat enough for six, That's right. 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:15.480 It just means we've got it rendered down to the purity, 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:17.480 you know what I mean, Like it's it's. 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:18.399 That's that's good. 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:21.920 Yeah, I have no doubt that you guys could eat 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:29.679 enough chips and sausa. Okay, if you don't know, Casey Smith, 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:32.520 Tyler Jones of the Element appreciate it. 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:33.759 They are from Texas. 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:40.440 Man, I enjoy watching Casey eat chips and saucy. To me, 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:44.040 it's like it's like it's like watching somebody ride a 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:46.920 good pleasure horse through an Areno, you know, it's just 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:49.640 kind of like a thing of beauty or or or 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:54.400 watching a marathon runner, like you know, stride through mile twelfth. 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:57.120 The first time I compared to a marathon runner, I 0:01:57.160 --> 0:01:59.760 believe ever so makes good sense. 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:02.160 But when when you. 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:07.040 Hammered out on chips and salsa, it's like I feel joy. 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:09.200 So it's the same thing I feel whenever you eat 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:11.480 you know, oatmeal or whatever. 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:12.280 No, what is it? 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:14.040 Granola? That's what you eat a lot of. 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:14.600 Yeah. 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:20.239 Yeah, so man, Hey, you know, a man's got a 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:22.680 a man's got to stick to his guns on his 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:25.720 diet when he travels. That's the one thing I've learned 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:30.240 in my traveling over the last decade is, man, if 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:32.640 you break, if you break the routine much, you'll you 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:33.880 won't have a routine at all. 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:35.440 Yeah, I guarantee you. 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:37.679 You know what when I was with I spent a 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:42.520 little bit of time with Will Primos, And what you 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:45.520 wouldn't know about Will Primos just from watching him kill 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:49.359 elk and call and love turkey hunting, is that he 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:54.000 is an extreme man of discipline and wherever he goes, 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:57.480 he goes and does his own grocery shopping and eats 0:02:57.520 --> 0:02:59.160 his own food in camp. 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:00.360 Mmm. 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:03.880 I took note of that. I was like, that takes 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:05.120 some dedication because it's hard. 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:07.280 We have to make food for like five people when 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:10.000 we go places, so we eat our own food and 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:11.840 uh make food for everybody else. 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:17.000 Ten pounds of ground talk on meat, a ponty angelous 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:18.280 gallons of salsa. 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:18.839 That's right. 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:21.960 I want to I want to introduce everybody to my guests. 0:03:22.160 --> 0:03:25.960 This is Casey Smith and Tyler Jones of the Element. 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:29.640 The Element is a what telling What's the element? Y'all 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:30.800 tell me what the element is. 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:34.280 It's what we're living in man, you know, go for it, 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:35.119 mister puns. 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:39.640 So the Element is uh pretty much everything that Tyler 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:41.760 and I do and and we've got some help with 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:43.520 with Greg and Eric and Michael. 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:44.240 Uh. 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:49.960 We video Oliver Hunts. We have a sort of weekly podcast. 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:52.120 I kind of say that joking, and we we get 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:55.000 that out uh pretty much on the week and it's 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:58.040 kind of a chronicle of our stories, our hunts and 0:03:58.160 --> 0:03:59.400 just we try to share. 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:03.760 The knowledge that we accumulate by hunting so much. 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:07.440 You know, we try to not be We're not experts 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:10.080 at things, and you know, I feel like it's it's 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:12.560 pretty uh, I don't know, it's it's. 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:14.280 Not a good thing to can consider yourself an expert 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:14.800 of anything. 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:18.040 But I like to say we have a lot of experience, 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:21.599 so we try to share what we experience with other 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:23.360 people and hopefully we can all learn to be better 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:26.520 hunters together through that. So that's that's kind of what 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:27.440 the element is. 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:31.760 And it's just I don't know what we are. 0:04:31.920 --> 0:04:34.400 We had a video series on media last year called 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:37.520 buck Truck, and I think the intro for that is 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:40.360 me talking real short and sweet, say, two buddies hopping 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:43.159 and pick up travel the country hunting deer, and that 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:46.360 is about near what we are mixed in with about 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:49.360 I don't know, twenty percent Bible study. 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:49.560 Throughout all that. 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:52.480 It started with fishing, you know, I mean that's what 0:04:52.920 --> 0:04:55.240 That's what was kind of funny, you know. So we 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:57.520 just like doing it all kind of like you man 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:00.919 or old Brent Reeves. You know, we just like doing uh, 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:03.520 being outdoors and if if there's something to chase or 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:06.320 catch or or find, we're we're doing it. 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:06.560 Man. 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:12.760 Yeah, So you guys are colleagues of mine. You work 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:17.360 for meat Eater at what you've done for the last year? 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:18.240 Is that about right? 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:18.680 That's right? 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:23.440 Yeah, yeah, close to it. Man. What's what's it been 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:27.360 like working for meat Eater? It's uh, it's different, that's 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:28.320 for sure. You know. 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:32.320 Actually because y'a already entrepreneurs, y'all. Y'all, y'all had your 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:36.360 own business, did all your own stuff, had had this 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:40.880 YouTube channel podcast called The Element and travels and hunted 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:44.680 and then now you work for now you work for 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:45.080 meat Eater. 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:46.760 Well cool. Yeah. 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:48.760 We try to remain just true to who we've always 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:51.679 been and that's kind of difficult whenever you have outside 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:54.400 influences of things. But then at the same time, it's 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:58.400 nice to uh uh be able to collaborate and put 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:01.279 together some some good thoughts in some minds and some 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:04.359 different experiences around the country and just make sure you 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:06.240 can kind of refine what we have been doing. 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:07.800 And that's essentially kind of I mean. 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:12.839 Man, outside of like having a bigger network and you know, 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:15.560 quite honestly a boss, like, not a lot has changed 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:18.920 for what we do. You know, we still operate this 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:23.640 thing essentially how we want to, and uh, you know, 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:29.360 just pursue having the most fun we can. Yeah, that's 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:32.240 that's legal for you know, a couple of guys to do. 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:37.440 Yeah, well, I think that's That's kind of what I 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:40.320 was getting that in a way, is that I feel like, 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:42.880 you guys coming into Meetia really hasn't changed a lot 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:44.240 of what you want. 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:45.000 And that's what. 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:49.880 They were just to peak, you know, crack the veil 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:52.359 back just a little bit. I mean I feel like 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:57.320 I feel like that's what meat Eater did for me, 0:06:57.440 --> 0:07:01.120 as they said, Hey, you be you and do what 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:04.479 you do, and do what you're passionate about, but just 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:08.560 work for us. And I mean that's an ideal situation, 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:12.040 and I feel like that's what's from from outside looking in. 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:13.800 I feel like that's what's happening with you guys, is 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:17.320 that they've they've just kind of broadened your horizons, but 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:19.160 you guys are still who you were before. 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:22.120 Yeah, for sure, man. I mean that's that's what h 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:25.600 That's the same kind of thing we had in discussions 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:28.000 is going, you know prior to this, was you know, 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:30.280 can we can we continue to just be who we 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:32.200 are because that's what we want to be. Man, That's honest, 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:34.120 you know, and that's what we want is honesty in 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:37.640 what we do and and uh so, well you, I mean, 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:40.640 it hasn't changed a whole lot of what we do 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:42.280 outside of the fact that I got to really take 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:44.880 care of receipts, you know, but uh, you know. 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:47.760 That is the biggest that is the biggest problem with 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:49.000 corporate America. 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:52.120 Seats golly yeah. 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:55.000 And it's because it's yours, because you don't like touching them, 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:57.120 because the radiation that's that's mine. 0:07:57.080 --> 0:07:57.760 You know, like. 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:02.280 Those uh you know those heat print receipts. Man, that's 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:04.040 that's what's giving us all melanoma. 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:04.840 That's right. 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:06.000 That's tough. 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:10.120 Every time I like am on on a work trip 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:15.200 and like buy a coffee at a gas station and 0:08:15.200 --> 0:08:17.840 and the person does not give me a receipt, and 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:19.800 I go, heyl, could I have a receipt? 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:23.320 I feel like they think that I think that they 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:24.080 cheated me. 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:27.600 Yeah, and they're like, oh oh, so you know, there's 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:30.720 a lot of personal drama involved in receipts. 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:32.719 Man, guarantee you I almost bought the almost about a 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:34.599 drink with cash this morning because I didn't want to 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:35.480 have to ask for the receipts. 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:39.680 Oh yeah, dude, Sometimes that's tough. That's tough. 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:42.559 The worst part is, like, well, we all got accustomed 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:46.000 to this. You know, I'm speaking to an elder millennial 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:49.520 here with Clay Nukumb. But you still follow in the category, right, 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:54.199 Like we we were around for the transition of prepay 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:57.440 to like just pay at the pump, right, and so 0:08:57.679 --> 0:08:59.920 like we love pay at the pump for a gas. 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:02.120 I like being able to just make a quick stop 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:04.719 on the road and just go, you know, like I 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:08.439 have a large bladder for a medium sized man, so 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:10.719 I don't have to use the bathroom too much. Man, 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:12.760 So like I can just pay at the pump and go, 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:17.200 you know, and then guarantee you like, more often than not, 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:19.480 the receipt machine don't work on the pump, and you 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:21.720 got to go inside after all this, and then you 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:24.280 end up seeing a package of peanuts you want. 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:25.200 You know, it just ain't good. 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:27.880 It sounds like it sounds like a first world problem. 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:30.000 But when you travel for a living, I mean it's 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:33.000 pretty tough to lose. You're losing ten minutes of your 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:35.160 life at a time every you know, every week or 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:40.600 every four Yeah. 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:42.480 Man, man, problems, problems, problems. 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:47.240 Well forward to the day when when there's so much 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:49.880 surveillance in our country that just like you just go 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:53.120 to a gas pump and just like get gas, and 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:55.960 it just like knows who you are already, knows your 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:59.480 bank account already, and knows where you work for already, 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:02.560 and you just like just everything's just all automated. 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:05.520 We're there, man, I just got an email from Ornithology. 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:12.440 Ornithology is that you said, Yeah, Cornell Institute. And literally 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:14.560 twenty minutes before that, Casey and I were having a 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:18.040 big bird conversation with another guy. So, uh, they are 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:21.880 already there. They're listening, man, they know. Yeah, I hope 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:23.920 you'all know that I was kidding about my surveillance. 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:25.400 Oh I know. 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:27.720 Let me let me go ahead, and just for for 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:30.520 people who wouldn't who wouldn't be familiar with you guys, 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:34.280 let me just I want to introduce you even further 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:38.480 to the bear Grease audience as that, Hey, these guys 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:44.559 right here are some serious deer hunting machines. 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:47.520 And I don't throw that kind of stuff around lightly. 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:48.160 I really don't. 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:50.840 I mean, I mean, I think I think in a 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:55.400 in a in a in a brotherhood, compliments are earned, 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:58.280 They're not just guaranteed and. 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:01.240 Uh, I'm just glad you didn't say see a conspiracy theorists, 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:02.600 because that's what I thought you were fixing. 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:08.200 I know we're all into that, but no, Casey and 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:13.640 Tyler are are are really good hunters, and y'all have 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:18.800 really had a lot of success and and the and 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:21.040 the proofs and the pudding to what you guys are doing. 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:24.320 And I was able to hunt with y'all for a 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:28.760 week last year in Arkansas, and uh, it was a 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:33.880 really unique experience for me because you guys are crazy, 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:34.960 Because you. 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:38.280 Guys are absolutely nuts. No, I. 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:42.959 Tell people all the time. I tell people really. I 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:45.720 told somebody this week, I said, Man, I hunted with 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:48.959 the Element guys. And I said, we hunted six days, 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:53.280 morning and evening, six days. And I said, those guys 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:58.160 never sat in the same tree twice. And I and 0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:01.080 I because we were in a boat, we were we 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:04.840 were hunting by a boat. I had kind of just 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:07.800 submitted myself to you know, I'm just gonna do this 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:11.679 the way these guys do it. My instinct would have 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:14.680 been to and just the way I've done things. I mean, 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:16.400 I don't even know if it's an instinct, it's just 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:19.960 the way I think about white tail hunting is you know, 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:22.040 you would go to a spot and you'd sit there 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:25.160 probably two or three sits at least, just give it 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:28.840 a chance to work itself out or or or or 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:32.440 heck even dig in longer and sit there longer than that. 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:34.160 And you guys were like. 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:39.680 No, man, we're we're we're gonna move a bunch and 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:43.320 and uh, really, what I feel like you were doing 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:46.199 is and probably do a lot of it is capitalize 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:50.960 on the first time sits. Yeah, and and when you're 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:54.160 traveling around, let let me tell you, guys something about yourself. Okay, 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:58.640 let me let me explain y'all to you. Okay, uh 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:04.200 that Now, the other thing is is that y'all do 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:07.080 something that I don't always do. I'm most of my 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:10.800 white tail hunting is local, and I'm going to places 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:13.439 that I go to all the time and have gone 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:17.240 to for a long time. And you guys are going 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:21.040 into new areas, new places and have very short time 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:25.120 frames to hunt. So you've got to turn up the 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:30.840 knob the volume of concert, or you've got to be 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:34.079 kind of extreme in a way, like you can't be conservative, 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:36.400 like if you're going to the same one hundred and 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:41.479 sixty acre property for fifteen hunts between you know, October 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:44.400 first and November fifteenth, Like you kind of have to 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:48.600 dial back the aggression because you're gonna burn out your spots, 0:13:48.600 --> 0:13:52.080 you're gonna bump your deer, and you may already know 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:55.440 kind of what's going on. You go, you show up 0:13:55.480 --> 0:13:57.800 at some place you've never been to, you've only seen 0:13:57.840 --> 0:14:03.920 it on ad X to be aggressive, and you got 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:08.240 to take a bunch of risk, and boy that it 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:11.640 seems to really pay off sometimes. And I'm sure sometimes 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:13.560 you just track out or sometimes you mess something up, 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:15.959 but then you just go somewhere else. Yeah, I mean, 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:17.800 would you say that's a pretty good descriptor the way 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:18.320 y'all hunt? 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:22.600 Yeah, I mean it for sure is I think that 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:27.680 there's a lot of calculations that may go under the 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:31.000 radar when we're hunting with somebody, you know, Like but 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:34.400 one thing that I mean, we do we certainly have 0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:38.080 like a pretty good degree of aggression in our sets 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:40.480 and those kind of things, but it also is very 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:43.520 dependent upon like what we've got going in the area, 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:45.720 you know, because you don't want to if you got 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:48.920 one spot that hunts on a north wind in that area. 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:51.080 You don't want to blow it out if you got 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:52.360 to drive an hour and a half to get to 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:55.520 another spot that hunts on a north wind. So you know, 0:14:55.720 --> 0:15:00.720 and a lot of that aggressiveness comes through like a 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:04.320 freedom that we have from scouting all summer on on 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:07.840 on X, you know, on the maps. So we're able 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:12.040 to have a pretty good idea what things are going 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:14.560 to kind of look like and uh, what's gonna work 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:16.560 for us going in? And and we we have a 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:20.040 lot of commonalities too. There's some definite them some things 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:22.320 that we do different, think about different, but like the 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:24.480 one thing that we do have in common that really 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:28.080 helps us to be effective the most is that we 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:30.960 are pretty I think at least you know, I feel 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:32.720 like weird kind of saying this about myself, but we're 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:35.120 fairly selfless in the way we look at how we 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:38.160 take spots and how we hunt and these kind of things. 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:40.360 Got to be partner hunting, yeah, for sure. 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:44.040 And and it's just uh, that's really I mean, there's 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:46.240 you know more about this, clay, but I won't want 0:15:46.240 --> 0:15:50.200 to elaborate, but this foundationally, that's where we are, uh, 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:52.080 in kind of what we think and what we believe. 0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:57.120 So we we don't ever really hardly ever argue about 0:15:57.160 --> 0:15:59.800 anything too much anymore. I mean, getting getting used to 0:15:59.840 --> 0:16:01.720 each each other early on, you know, is a thing, 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:06.040 but like we don't whenever hardly. Like if if there's 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:07.760 a spot somebody wants to go to, I mean we 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:10.560 almost like nobody will take it, you know what I mean. 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:12.240 It's like, oh, no, you go there. It's like no, 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:14.360 I got another spot over here, and you just like, okay, 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:16.000 well are you really saying that? 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:17.520 Or you know, is that it. 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:20.160 Gets the point where you're trying to figure out like, hey, 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:21.800 this is what I want to where I want to 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:23.000 go the worst, But are you. 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:25.000 Avoiding that spot because you know I want to go there? 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:27.760 You know? And so you know that you kind of 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:29.160 come full circle on the thing. 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:32.040 But uh, I talk about this quite a bit, but 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:34.520 I preach against pride all the time. Man, Like you 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:39.240 can't have like any level of pride or self I. 0:16:39.240 --> 0:16:42.000 Don't want to say self confidence, but like because that's good. 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:44.320 When it comes to hunting, but like self ambition, Yeah, exactly, 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:45.080 self ambition. 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:47.040 Right, it was it James three five? And that what 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:47.360 it was? 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:49.720 You said something like yeah, James three or. 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:54.520 And so like, if you're doing this thing and your 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:58.840 common goal is for everyone to have a great time 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:02.520 and hunt deer in and be successful. Like the thing 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:05.880 that Tyler and I do that I cherish is that 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:08.640 we can look at a spot that we've never been 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:11.359 to or that we have either way, and just shoot 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:14.119 a bunch of holes in the bottom boat for about 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:16.800 five or ten minutes and come out with the best 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:19.560 possible plan. And I think it's like key to success 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:21.720 force men, Oh for sure. I mean if one person 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:24.439 shoots a deer. I actually killed a deer on Texas 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:26.680 public land the other day about a week ago or so, 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:31.520 and you know, Case was like, I just listened to 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:33.159 him straight up because he went in and hung this 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:36.600 camera and wasn't able to go on that hunt that 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:40.840 that particular night. And he was like, Hey, the deer 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:43.520 do this. There's two thickets here, they travel this way, 0:17:43.640 --> 0:17:45.119 They're gonna hit a scrape on the edge of that 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:48.520 transition in between the two thickets, and the wind, you know, 0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:50.440 is just gonna be It's gonna be a matter of wind. 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:51.880 And I went in there and I played the wind 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:54.600 where it was just off and that was able to 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:56.520 get into a tree based off of that and like 0:17:56.840 --> 0:17:58.679 kill the deer, you know, because I just straight up 0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:01.200 listening to case, you know I mean, And that's kind 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:04.760 of that, that's that thing that really there's a big 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:08.160 common theme in white tail hunting the last few years, 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:11.000 and maybe it's going away a little bit, but especially 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:12.600 when we were when we were getting started, there was 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:15.840 this lone wolf mentality and uh, you know, and it's 0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:18.119 very prideful. It's very much like I can do this, 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:19.639 and I want to do it, and I'm gonna do 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:21.280 it my way and I don't need anybody to help 0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:23.720 me when really everybody's going out there shoot a deer. 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:25.920 We're hunting. We're not nature walking, you know what I mean. 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:28.359 So, uh, if you want to shoot a deer, sometimes 0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:29.920 it's okay to listen to your friend and just be 0:18:30.040 --> 0:18:31.520 like that was fun. That was fun, you know what 0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:33.600 I mean. And if you want it a different way 0:18:33.680 --> 0:18:36.399 next time, you can do it too. But anyway, I 0:18:36.440 --> 0:18:40.960 just think that it's it's way better, way better thing 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:44.280 to have, you know, your buddies helping each other out. 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:46.479 It just it makes camp way more fun, man. 0:18:46.520 --> 0:18:48.800 Yeah, man, And you gotta have some discernment too and 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:51.159 keep good friends and good hunting buddies that you know 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:54.440 are gonna make some good decisions for you, or at least, like. 0:18:55.880 --> 0:18:57.280 I ain't gonna name any names. 0:18:57.040 --> 0:18:59.359 But we we might have a friend somewhere in this 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:02.720 world who might not actually have the best advice, but 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:05.159 I still listen to him, you know, and hunt with 0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:06.800 him and hang out. But you kind of got to 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:08.159 figure out who you can count on that kind of 0:19:08.160 --> 0:19:10.840 stuff too. But that doesn't mean you can't count on 0:19:10.880 --> 0:19:12.639 that individual as a person. 0:19:12.800 --> 0:19:14.399 You know that those are two different things, you know. 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:15.800 Mm hmm. 0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:20.280 Well that's that's a really cool perspective. And I saw 0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:24.439 that in action with you guys. And and you know, 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:27.800 like when I saw y'all had a really good fall 0:19:27.960 --> 0:19:30.360 this year, and heck, even I just said it, I said, 0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:31.639 y'all have had a really good fall. 0:19:32.000 --> 0:19:34.359 Well, Tyler's killed three deer? 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:36.960 Is that right? Yeah, yep, that's right. 0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:39.960 And then and in my mind when I hear one 0:19:39.960 --> 0:19:42.720 of you have killed a deer, it's like it actually 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:45.399 it's it's like you are the same the same person. 0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:46.920 Like it's like you got one. 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:51.320 It's weird. It's like a married couple. Man, It's like it's. 0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:55.800 A little weird, but you know, yeah it is. 0:19:55.880 --> 0:19:56.719