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Speaker 2: Hey everyone, Emily Abodi here. You are listening to another

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Speaker 2: installment of Hurdle Moment un Hurdle, a wellness focused podcast.

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Speaker 2: Reconnect with everyone from your favorite athletes to top experts

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Speaker 2: I am over at Emily a body and with that,

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Speaker 1: women that can mean using an herb called vitex at

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Speaker 1: Chase Sperry, which helps the ovaries produce more progesterone. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: that will require you know, even replenishing with a bit

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Speaker 1: of progesterone cream, a natural progesterone. I'm talking about replenishment,

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Speaker 1: but they're also you know, lifestyle changes that have to

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Speaker 1: be made where we might have to dial back on

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Speaker 1: over exercising, switch the diet into more healthy carbs, multi

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Speaker 1: grain carbs and nutrients that are nutrient dense, proteins and

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Speaker 1: good fats. A lot of women aren't eating enough, you know.

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Speaker 1: That can be a real problem too, so that the

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Speaker 1: building blocks of hormones and ovulation are are not getting

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Speaker 1: the you know, those nutrients aren't getting into the body.

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Speaker 1: I've been. There's there's a great I don't know. She's

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Speaker 1: somebody you should interview, Elisive Vitty. She's a brilliant woman

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Speaker 1: who had horrible PCOS. So for anyone who listening who

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Speaker 1: has PCOS, suspects they have it and may have some

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Speaker 1: of the health behaviors that I'm talking about where the

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Speaker 1: diet has been really carb and low in protein and

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Speaker 1: good fats, and maybe too much exercise, overtraining, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: Go to Elyssive Vitty's website. Because she had horrible PCOS

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Speaker 1: was told by every doctor she saw that there was

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Speaker 1: no cure. Usually women are put on met Foreman because

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Speaker 1: PCOS is related to insulin resistance having to do with

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Speaker 1: that carb diet that I'm talking about over years and

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Speaker 1: a situation where insulin starts to become high and stays high,

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Speaker 1: so those androgens keep getting churning, churned out, and we

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Speaker 1: get the belly fat and the weight gain around the waist,

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Speaker 1: and you know, all of those issues associated with insulin resistance,

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Speaker 1: which is really pre diabetics. So a lot of PCOS

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Speaker 1: sufferers are put on diabetic medicines when you know, or

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Speaker 1: they're put on spiral and a lactone to control acne

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Speaker 1: or whatever the symptoms are. But that's not the cure.

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Speaker 1: The cure is rebalancing the hormones, and that means, you know, holistically,

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Speaker 1: looking at this whole picture that I'm doing my best

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Speaker 1: to describe here.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about one other thing that can play a

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Speaker 2: part in this, and that is birth control.

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Speaker 1: You know, I had to think long and hard about

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Speaker 1: this when I make statements that can be influencing people.

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Speaker 1: I was one of the first in line back in

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Speaker 1: the sixties, and that tells you how old I am.

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Speaker 1: But I already told you how old I am. But

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Speaker 1: I you know, I was first in line to get

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Speaker 1: the birth control pill and wanted to live with my boyfriend,

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Speaker 1: didn't want to get pregnant. All those things that liberated

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Speaker 1: us in the sixties. It was a wonderful thing. But

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Speaker 1: I remember the pill was really back then, and I

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Speaker 1: got horrible acne. I still have the scars from that,

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Speaker 1: and I remember just crying all the time. I couldn't

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Speaker 1: stop crying. Everything made me cry. It was hilarious. I'm

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Speaker 1: not the type of person to cry. So now we

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Speaker 1: have a pill that is not as potent as although

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Speaker 1: some are. Some women are still on really high potency pills.

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Speaker 1: But the point is they are made of synthetic hormones

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Speaker 1: which shut down ovulation. So if we go back to

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Speaker 1: what I've just been saying about the importance of ovulation,

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Speaker 1: where you know, these normal hormones are produced, and we're

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Speaker 1: shutting down a woman's normal cycle, suppressing it. And some

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Speaker 1: women I talk to have been on birth control. And

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Speaker 1: it's more than just some women. I'd say a majority

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Speaker 1: of younger women I've talked to have been on birth

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Speaker 1: control for five to fifteen years. I've even talked to

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Speaker 1: women in their forties and late forties who are still

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Speaker 1: on birth control because they're afraid they're going to get

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Speaker 1: acne if they go off, or they're afraid that some

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Speaker 1: of their symptoms are going to come back. But all

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Speaker 1: that birth control is really doing is putting a boatload

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Speaker 1: of synthetic hormones which the body does not recognize. You know,

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Speaker 1: it just sort of shuts down normal ovulation and it

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Speaker 1: can take a long time for ovulation to come back.

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Speaker 1: And that's a real you know, that's an issue for

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Speaker 1: women in their thirties who are now thinking about getting

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Speaker 1: pregnant or having a family. It can be a lot

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Speaker 1: of women get off the pill and they decide that

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Speaker 1: they're going to get pregnant, and then they find they

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Speaker 1: can't get their period back. It takes it can take

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Speaker 1: a long time. Some women are fine, but other women

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Speaker 1: can't get their period back for months, six months or so,

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Speaker 1: can't have trouble getting pregnant after many, many years on

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Speaker 1: the pill. And most women I talk to say they

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Speaker 1: don't feel right being on the pill this long, but

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Speaker 1: that's kind of the default whenever they talk to it.

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Speaker 1: You know, an old school doctor who and they say, well,

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Speaker 1: I've got mood swings, and I've got belly fat, and

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Speaker 1: i can't sleep, and my periods are irregular and they're heavy,

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Speaker 1: and you know, then it's always well, let's just go

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Speaker 1: back on the pill, or let's keep you on the pill,

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Speaker 1: And actually it's just adding to you know overall hormonal imbalance,

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Speaker 1: but we can wake up our home, We can wake

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Speaker 1: up our ovaries and give them tender, loving care. Once

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Speaker 1: we get off the pill and start to practice hormone balancing,

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00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: so that real hormone balance means that you're not going

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Speaker 1: to have that's the best way to handle those symptoms.

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Speaker 1: Another great again, I would say, read a list of

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Speaker 1: Viddi's book People, Woman Code, And another great one is

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Speaker 1: Beyond the Pill by doctor Jolene Brighton, who talks to

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Speaker 1: who tells women throughout the book how to get off

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Speaker 1: the pill healthily, happily and how to reconfigure your hormone

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Speaker 1: levels and rebalance. I just started saying I didn't want

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Speaker 1: to I didn't want to put down the pill because

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Speaker 1: I understand how important it is to have family planning

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Speaker 1: and to be able to have that control. And I

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Speaker 1: certainly was one of the early users. But now we

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Speaker 1: have great trackers, we have fertility trackers, and we can

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Speaker 1: you know, if you're technologically adept, you can use those

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Speaker 1: to ninety seven ninety eight percent accuracy. So that's a

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Speaker 1: way better choice than messing with your hormones internally for

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Speaker 1: years and years and.

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Speaker 2: Years for years and years and years. And then the

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Speaker 2: last thing that I want to talk about with you

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Speaker 2: today is really the challenges that come hand in hand

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Speaker 2: with our everyday world. I mean, we are without a

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Speaker 2: doubt more stressed, more anxious than ever, and as we know,

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Speaker 2: these feelings can really impact our hormones and our bodies

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Speaker 2: and our gut. I mean, the list goes on.

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Speaker 1: So anything that we should keep in.

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Speaker 2: Mind when it comes to our hormones and our regular

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Speaker 2: levels of stress, well.

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Speaker 1: I think you know there's we have also When we

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Speaker 1: test in saliva, we test not only estrogen, progesterone testosterone DHA,

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Speaker 1: the precursor of testosterone, but also cortisol, the stress hormone,

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Speaker 1: and we test that four times over the course of

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Speaker 1: one day. Cortisols made by the adrenals. So you know,

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Speaker 1: the adrenals would make adrenaline if you're running from a

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Speaker 1: forest fire, but they make cortisol on a twenty four

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Speaker 1: to seven basis, And it's cortisol that powers us through

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Speaker 1: our day. It's cortisol that puts out the burst of

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Speaker 1: energy that you need when you're working out. It's cortisol

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Speaker 1: that fights, you know, provides our immune response, protects our

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Speaker 1: immune reserves, regulates our sleep wake cycle, and very importantly

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Speaker 1: regulates our blood sugar and insulin balance. So the adrenals

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Speaker 1: they can get really taxed if we in our stress

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00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: crazy busy lives aren't taking heed of the fact that

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Speaker 1: they need extra tender, loving care because they're these tiny

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Speaker 1: little glands that sit on top of the kidneys and

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Speaker 1: they regulate all of these important jobs that I'm just

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Speaker 1: talking about. So if we burn the candle at both ends,

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Speaker 1: if we you know, we if we don't get enough sleep,

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Speaker 1: if we're on our computer late at night, which disrupts

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Speaker 1: melatonin production and jack scept cortisol, if we exercise late

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Speaker 1: at night, if we're not getting enough of the good nutrients,

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Speaker 1: and if we're kind of courting stress, you know, not

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Speaker 1: learning to take it in stride, but rather allowing it

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Speaker 1: to take center stage in our lives. There are there

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Speaker 1: is that attitude where you know, I'll sleep when I die.

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Speaker 1: I'm busy now, so I'm just going to keep being busy.

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Speaker 1: And I remember before COVID people would describe themselves as

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Speaker 1: being crazy busy. I don't find that that's not an

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Speaker 1: admirable place to be. And what happens with the adrenals,

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Speaker 1: especially if you're an athletic person. You know, you you

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Speaker 1: start to burn through the adrenals and they start to

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Speaker 1: become fatigued and underperforming. And that's when you find that

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Speaker 1: you're exhausted after a workout, that you're not sleeping well,

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Speaker 1: that you're not you know, you're not performing the way

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Speaker 1: you want to mentally, physically or emotionally. So I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, stress comes in many stress is really it's

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Speaker 1: good stress. Also stress can be babies, having getting married,

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Speaker 1: traveling internationally. You know, good stress, bad stress. It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: The internal external stimuli upon the adrenals and upon the

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Speaker 1: body are the same. We just have to take care

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Speaker 1: to you know, to keep that in balance. And you know,

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Speaker 1: like certain parts of the cycle, in your follicular phase

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Speaker 1: you want to do high intensity. In your ovulatory phase

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Speaker 1: you want to do high intensity and cardio. But in

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Speaker 1: the luteal phase and in the menstrual phase, you want

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Speaker 1: to dial back and do you know, have the evening

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Speaker 1: stroll or the yoga and the exercises that release tension

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Speaker 1: from the body. So it you know, it's getting it's

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Speaker 1: learning that balance. How to balance the way we eat

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Speaker 1: the way we sleep, the way we exercise, and I

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Speaker 1: think doing that in sync with our cycles has become

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Speaker 1: a really important conversation cycle sinking. You know what to eat,

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Speaker 1: when to exercise, and that's where I'd say again, women

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Speaker 1: should look into that through the illiciit bitty book. In

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Speaker 1: the flow, we even add your hormone balance my daughter

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Speaker 1: Jess as kind of our cycle sinking expert. So if

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Speaker 1: any of your listeners want to test their hormones, and

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Speaker 1: by the way, we want to give you a fifty

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Speaker 1: dollars I was going to say fifty pounds because I'm

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Speaker 1: in the UK, a fifty dollars discount on the testing,

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Speaker 1: which is a good incentive, and then they can actually

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Speaker 1: review test results either with me or with Jess, and

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Speaker 1: she can talk cycle sinking much better than I can.

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Speaker 1: You know, she's more of an expert on it. But

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Speaker 1: it's really crucial making hormon owns a family business. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: aslutely we love it.

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Speaker 2: And I also talk on the show with doctor Stacy

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Speaker 2: Simms about cycle sinking, so if anybody wants to know

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Speaker 2: more about that, as well as a lot of the

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Speaker 2: goodness that Candace has talked about in today's episode, I

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Speaker 2: will make sure to throw all of these links in

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Speaker 2: the show notes. Candice, this was so helpful, so many

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Speaker 2: good takeaways here. How do the hurdlers keep up with you?

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Speaker 2: How do they follow along with you? Give us the details.

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Speaker 1: Well, we're at your Hormone Balance dot com. We have

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Speaker 1: a really active Instagram account. My daughters are posting on

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Speaker 1: it every single day and it's kind of fun. We're

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Speaker 1: trying to make it fun. So there's tons of information

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Speaker 1: there and so that's at your Hormone Balance and yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's just all that information is there online too. We

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Speaker 1: think we have it. We have a newsletter too that

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Speaker 1: you can sign up for, so there's a ton of information.

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Speaker 1: I think people are grateful for it because, you know,

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Speaker 1: edge cation is power. Knowing your body. I don't think

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Speaker 1: enough women really understand their cycles and what hormones do.

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Speaker 1: It's not just about getting older, it's you know, thinking

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Speaker 1: about who am I when I'm twenty thirty, forty fifty,

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Speaker 1: Who am I going to be? How am I going

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Speaker 1: to feel? And how do I want to age gracefully

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Speaker 1: and well and have the power and the stamina to

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Speaker 1: live the life I want to live. We can do this,

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Speaker 1: We can feel so much better then, you know, I

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Speaker 1: think people forget how much better they could feel, or

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Speaker 1: how much better they used to feel. So it you know,

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Speaker 1: don't don't allow yourself to be mired in you know,

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Speaker 1: imbalances that are ruling your life. You can you can

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Speaker 1: change that turned around.

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Speaker 2: You can change that and turn it around. I am

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Speaker 2: over at Emily Body and at Hurdle Podcast. Another Hurdle conquered.

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Speaker 2: Catch you guys next time,