1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to coast AM on iHeartRadio. Well, 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 1: let's talk about some fun things space. What's new with 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: you out there? Oh, well, it's very exciting. There's there's 4 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: so much going on the Moon, in particular the things 5 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: that are being discovered on the Moon, the international cooperation 6 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: that's going on. I've got a number of sources that 7 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: are giving me independent data of that on that. One 8 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: of them is actually currently serving with the US Army 9 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: and this source has performed US secret missions to things 10 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: being discovered in our Solar system as part of the 11 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 1: secret space program. So, as I've been saying for many years, 12 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: and I'm sure many of your guests have said as well, 13 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,639 Speaker 1: that you know, there are parallel space programs. You've got 14 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: the NASA program, the conventional civilian space program, which is 15 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: all rocket propelled and it takes a lot of time 16 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: to plan and send these missions up. And then you've 17 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: got the real space programs, which run by the different 18 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: branches of the US military, the National Reconnaissance Office, and 19 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: they have advanced anti gravity spacecraft using space time propulsion systems, 20 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: and they're able to get out far into our Solar 21 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: system and explore things. So this is so, you know, 22 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: one of my sources is saying has told me shared 23 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:37,559 Speaker 1: that he's part of these classified missions, and yeah, they're 24 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: discovering stuff all over the place that is amazing. When 25 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: did we end our Moon missions nineteen seventy two, Yeah, 26 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: that's right, nineteen seventy two with the Polis seventeen. That 27 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: was the very last mission. And you know, and people 28 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: always ask, well, why in the world are we stopping 29 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: the Moon missions? I mean, after landing on the Moon, 30 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: wasn't the next logical step for manned missions Mars? And 31 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,919 Speaker 1: of course since nineteen seventy two there'd been no manned 32 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: missions to anywhere else than low Earth orbit for the 33 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: International Space Station and the Space Shuttle and so but 34 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: that's the official space program. Now. Many of my sources 35 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: have said that we were told or warned off the Moon. 36 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: William Tompkins the former aerospace with a number of major 37 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: aerospace companies. He was actually working at a major aerospace 38 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: company TRW, in nineteen sixty nine and he says he 39 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: was there they had live telemetry from NASA and he 40 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: was there at the TRW headquarters there in Los Angeles, 41 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: and he saw like a lot of the others. They're 42 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: watching the Apollo eleven, ending that the Apollo eleven landed 43 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: near that crater, was it deceived tranquility and they saw 44 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: a bunch of large extraterrestrial spacecraft that were parked on 45 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: the rim of the crater and they were just kind 46 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: of menacingly perched. And the message was sent that look, 47 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: you can conduct a few miss missions here, but eventually 48 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: you are not allowed to establish bases on the Moon. 49 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: Well why do you think they did not want that? Well, 50 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: the Apollo program, and Bill Tompkins made this very clear. 51 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: The Apollo program was a cover for the Navy's secret 52 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: space program called the Nova program, and they were using 53 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: they were building these huge boosters called Nova and this 54 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: is a fact, and that there were they that the 55 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: Satin five rocker, the Saturn five rocket, was going to 56 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: be replaced by a larger booster rocket are called the 57 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: Nova rocket, and these were going to take a lot 58 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: of equipment and resources to the Moon, and the Navy 59 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: planned to build bases on the Moon, military bases. And 60 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: so this was part of the real reason why we 61 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: were told to get off the Moon, or to not 62 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: to return to the Moon, because because Apollo and the 63 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: national Space but the civilian space program was it was 64 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: a cover for this military program to establish manned bases 65 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: on the Moon and eventually on Mars. But the extraterrestionals 66 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: that were there and their allies said, no, we don't 67 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: want the Navy up here, We don't want any US 68 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: military establishing bases up here. If you come up here, 69 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: you come up here on our terms, and you're not 70 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: going to develop your own things. And so they said, 71 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: don't come back, and so that's what happened, and so officially, 72 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: and that's why the NSSA program stopped, because we were 73 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: warned off the Moon and so there was no need 74 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 1: to go ahead with a cover program. It meant that 75 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: the Navy, the Air Force, and the US military had 76 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: to make deals with those that were already on the 77 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: Moon and use their bases rather than go up there 78 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: and build our own bases. So so really that was 79 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: what was going on, that we were warned off so 80 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: that the US military would not establish its own basis. 81 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: And of course still, of course I talked about this 82 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: his book The Day Beyond Roswell. He talked about the 83 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 1: Army's Horizon project, and the Navy had its own program over. 84 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: So this was why the Apollo program was stopped. The 85 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: real powers that were on the Moon didn't want US 86 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: military establishing these bases. They've talked about going back with 87 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: a astronaut crew in twenty two twenty four. That's only 88 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: two years away. Now, that seems pretty aggressive, Michael, Well, 89 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah, that was something that was exhilerated under 90 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: the Trump administration. I think Trump came in and they 91 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: had something called the Oriyan program, which you planned to 92 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: use these space SLS rocket launchers that would replace the 93 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: Saturn five that was being These sl launchers were being 94 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: built by I think Boeing and Lockheed Consortium, and they 95 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: were going to return humans to the Moon by twenty 96 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: twenty seven. Well, Trump came in and his administrator, Jim Bridenstone, 97 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: said no, no, we can, we can do this much 98 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 1: more quickly, and so let's fast track it to twenty 99 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: twenty four. And so that's what they did. So, and 100 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 1: they came up with a new name for it called 101 00:06:54,960 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: the Artemis program. And so this was really international coalition 102 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 1: to establish basis on the Moon. And the key principle 103 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: here for anyone listening is always that whenever there's a 104 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: national space program that's aiming to establish anything in space, 105 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: that's always a cover for a classified military space program 106 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: to do much more behind the scenes. So, because what 107 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: you have here under the Artemis program that aim to 108 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: return humans to the Moon by twenty twenty four, in 109 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: this multinational space alliance headed by by NASA, was that 110 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: you behind that You actually had a multinational military alliance 111 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: that was going to build basis on the Moon for 112 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: an international military coalition that is being created right now 113 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: as we speak by the US Space Command, which was 114 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: also created during the Trump administration. Why is there so 115 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: much interest to go back to the Moon? Is it 116 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: because it's so close, it's a launching pad for Mars? 117 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: What do you think? Well, the mood has always been 118 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: fascinating for people. It's kind of like, you know that 119 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: that old adage, you know, white climb Mount Everest because 120 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: it's there. So I think once humanity developed the technology 121 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: to go to the Moon, it was like, well, it 122 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: was a done deal that we would eventually use that technology. 123 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: And of course it happened under the Kennedy administration. Yeah, 124 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 1: but that was always a cover for these military programs. 125 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: And what's happened on the Moon recently, is that there's 126 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: been a change of ownership that the that extraterrestrial human 127 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: alliance that had dominance over the Moon, that was the 128 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: one that stopped the Apollo program and of course stopped 129 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 1: the US Navy from establishing these man bases on the Moon. 130 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: Under the Nova program, that extraterrestrial coalition has been replaced 131 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: or has been removed from the Moon, and that has 132 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: opened the door for humanity to step in and take 133 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: control of the Moon. And that's really a fundamental shift, 134 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: which is why there is this big, big return to 135 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: the Moon. And it only happened in the last few 136 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: years under the under the Trump administration that all of 137 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: this was exhilerated. And of course you have the Artemis 138 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: Accords being signed by an alliance of international space programs 139 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty under the Trump administration, and so so yeah, 140 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: everything is being excelerated for humanity returning to the Moon 141 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 1: in a major way in a space collition. And that 142 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: is made possible because though those extraterrestrials that had basis 143 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 1: on the Moon and gave NASA and the US military 144 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: the thumbs down back in the late sixties early seventies 145 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: that no you're going to stop these missions here. That 146 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: coalition is now gone, and that there's kind of like 147 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: a new sheriff in our solar system, if you like 148 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: a new umpire who is saying no humans you you 149 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: are allowed to go out and colonize now. And so 150 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:39,359 Speaker 1: that's what's happening. What what's going on with the possibilities 151 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 1: of a secret space force doing something on the Moon 152 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: now that we don't even know about. Well, what's happened 153 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: is that we have in the United States. Of course, 154 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: you have a Space Force as the sixth branch of 155 00:10:56,280 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: the US military, but you also have Space Command that 156 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: was established only three months before Space Force was officially 157 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: created in twenty nineteen. And Space Command is what integrates 158 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: the space assets of all of the different military services, 159 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: the Navy, the Air Force, the Army, and the Marine Corps. 160 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 1: And so Space Command is launching that is combining all 161 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: of those space assets into one unified, cohesive program for 162 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: US military operations in space. But what Space Command is 163 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: also doing is it's setting up something is called the 164 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: Combined Space Commands involving the major nations like the US, Canada, Britain, France, 165 00:11:54,640 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: Germany or Australia. In a one integrate military service that 166 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: is going to operate in space. So what you're having 167 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: right now being created under US Space Command is an 168 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: integrated military coalition to take control of not just the Moon, 169 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 1: but Mars and the rest of our Solar system. And 170 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: that's being assembled right now. So agreements have been reached 171 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 1: as I was getting this information about this international space 172 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: coalition being formed to go and take over one of 173 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: these space assets and these base, these secret bases that 174 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: were built from the Moon and elsewhere in our Solar system. 175 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: General James Dickinson, who's the four star general in charge 176 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: of US Space Command, I mean, he acknowledged back in 177 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: August of twenty twenty one that Space Command had reached 178 00:12:56,040 --> 00:13:00,839 Speaker 1: over one hundred agreements with different national space program militaries 179 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: and corporations. And that was confirmation for what my sources 180 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: were telling me that Space Command is the key player 181 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: in setting up this multinational space coalition that combined both 182 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: civilian and military into a renewed thrust out into space 183 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 1: and taking over a lot of the bases that had 184 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: been secretly established from the Moon and taking control of 185 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: our solar system. Michael, why do you think the Soviet 186 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: Union then of course Russia just never pursued going to 187 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: the Moon after they were ahead of US in the 188 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: space race. Well, it was very expensive and to launch 189 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: a moon program, a civilian moon program. Now, the Moon 190 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: program was always a cover. I mean, Apollo was always 191 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: a cover. So it was like you had how could 192 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: you hide from Congress and the mass media that your 193 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: military was using advanced technologies to go to the Moon 194 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: or set up a basis on the Moon or on 195 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: Mars or elsewhere in our solar system. So you would 196 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: have a cover program, and so you would spend like 197 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: I think the Apollo program in the in the what 198 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: was it from six nineteen sixty to nineteen seventy two 199 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: and the twelve years, I think it's spent like thirty 200 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: billion dollars, which was a lot of money at the time. 201 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: And the Soviet Union just didn't want to do that, 202 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: and so they decided that it was easier for them 203 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: to just not not have a Moon program, even though 204 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: they did go through the steps, but I think they 205 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: recognized that once the US was going to be first 206 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: to the Moon in terms of setting up a military 207 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: basis on the Moon, the Soviets kind of like backed 208 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: off they knew the US would be would be first, 209 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: and they and they watched as the US was told 210 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: not to establish these military bases on the Moon. So 211 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: the Soviets kind of took their queue from that, and 212 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: and so they really just really tried to bring about 213 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: an outcome that suited them, which was that the US 214 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: military would not be allowed to establish bases on the Moon. 215 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: And there's a a researcher by the name of doctor 216 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: Peter Bader, who I'm sure you probably came across the name. 217 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: In the late seventies. He put out these audio letters 218 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: and he talked about the Soviets and the Americans having 219 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: this competition to establish secret military bases on the Moon 220 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: and eventually engaging in a battle, and he called it 221 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: Harvest Moon. And it was a battle that had extraterrestrials 222 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: involved in there and involved essentially, the US was ahead 223 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: in terms of establishing space vehicles and being able to 224 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: create bases on the Moon, but the Soviets were ahead 225 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: in terms of the building directed energy weapons, and so 226 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: there was a space battle, and the Soviets used their 227 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: directed energy weapons to destroy whatever the US had built 228 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: on the Moon. According to Peter Bida, so fascinating information, 229 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: but definitely the Soviet Union has always had its own program, 230 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: has reached its own agreements with different extraterrestrial groups, has 231 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: participated or collaborated with the US to a certain degree. 232 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: They've kind of like been cooperative on some issues with 233 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: the US, but another they've been very distinct competitors. Listen 234 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at one 235 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: Eastern and go to Coast to coastam dot com for 236 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: more