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Speaker 1: foul Territory.

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Speaker 2: We've made it.

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Speaker 1: We made it to the end of the week. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Alana Rizzo in for Scott Braun. That is

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Speaker 1: Eric Kratz. Trevor May. I am Trevor May is joining

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Speaker 1: us too. We appreciate you being here. I think he's

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Speaker 1: at a pumpkin patch. Eric said that he's drinking spice latte,

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Speaker 1: pumpkin spice latte. Trevor says he is not drinking that,

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Speaker 1: so I will take him at his word. Great to

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Speaker 1: be with you, guys. Don't forget everybody watching and listening

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Speaker 1: you got something to say?

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Speaker 3: What is it?

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Speaker 4: Alana?

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Speaker 2: You've been on here for five straight days and your

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Speaker 2: energy is still peak, like you have mega energy, and

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that. I don't want people to think this

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Speaker 2: is Alana's first day for energy is peak. But you

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Speaker 2: know what, just like every starter, you're gonna have an

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Speaker 2: off day tomorrow. I need you to bring it today, Okay,

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Speaker 2: I need you to keep it, keep it hype even

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Speaker 2: though you is coming on JT. I love you, JT.

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Speaker 2: You're the best.

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Speaker 1: I do love JT. Justin Turner is on the show,

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Speaker 1: but you know what I tell you, I appreciate the thought,

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Speaker 1: by the way, Ek, but we have a good show

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Speaker 1: because not only is Justin Turner coming on the show,

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Speaker 1: Ken Rosenthal is joining us as well. Happy birthday, Ken Rosenthal.

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Speaker 1: A j Ellis is joining the show. So another fellow

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Speaker 1: catcher Eric of course talking about all things Clayton Kershaw,

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Speaker 1: who announced his retirement yesterday. He's going to retire after

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Speaker 1: the season. We'll get teammates thoughts on that because you

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Speaker 1: and I discussed it yesterday. And Kay Povich of the

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Speaker 1: Baltimore Orioles also joining us on the show. So a

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Speaker 1: lot to get to on this two hour program. Let's

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Speaker 1: get to it. Let's charge the mound.

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Speaker 2: Let's charge about.

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Speaker 1: All right. So Cleveland is making a playoff push, Trevor.

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Speaker 1: We have been discussing this all week long, as I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you have two on all of your relative podcasts

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Speaker 1: as well. But Cleveland's making a push for it. The

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Speaker 1: American League is still a nightmare the National League. The

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Speaker 1: chin there. What do you make of this Guardian's push?

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Speaker 1: Are they getting in your opinion.

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Speaker 5: Uh, it's it's gonna be tough, and they still got

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Speaker 5: to go take take care of Detroit again, which they

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Speaker 5: just did. But it's always fun to see a super

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Speaker 5: hot team right at the end of the year. I

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Speaker 3: And we want all the hottest.

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Speaker 5: Teams playing each other at the end anyway, So if

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Speaker 5: it did happen, wouldn't hate it. Still think things are

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Speaker 5: and also when it comes to the Mariners, n astros like,

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Speaker 5: to happen, But you know, it's it's about finishing strong.

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Speaker 5: So the worst case scenario for the Guardians and Guardians fans,

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Speaker 5: I mean, finishing on, getting getting on, getting on, finishing

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Speaker 5: hang your hat on but if you can sneak in gosh, gosh,

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Speaker 5: I mean, that's just a fun it's a fun story.

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Speaker 5: You want to you want to see things like that happen.

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Speaker 5: But I think they're still still needs so a few

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Speaker 5: more things to happen for I'm truly believing that it will.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't control their own destiny.

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Speaker 1: Should we be making more of a deal about the

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Speaker 1: We know the Tigers are getting in whatever, But should

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Speaker 2: Man? I mean, I guess at what point do we

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty five games. Their team is built on

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Speaker 2: So am I not concerned at all? No, I'm a

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Speaker 2: little concerned about the Tigers the way they're not winning games,

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Speaker 2: because you've kind of been coasting to this point in

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Speaker 2: They still have to close out these Guardians who are winning.

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Speaker 2: We keep finding a team every like three days. It's like,

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Speaker 2: nine in a row. Mets lose eight in a row.

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Speaker 2: It's the ebbs and flows of the season. It's just

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Speaker 2: more magnified because we ain't got many games left. Trevor.

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Speaker 1: What if the Guardians didn't trade away Shane Bieber, What

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Speaker 1: investigation because of gambling issues. This is just the thing.

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Speaker 1: It's like, if you miss I'd rather be blown out

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Speaker 1: and be like the Athletics or the Rockies. At this

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Speaker 3: It's weird. That's a two sided coin, right, Like you

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Speaker 5: Excited that the guys stepped up into those spots that

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Speaker 5: or you can you know, think high sight is twenty twenty.

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Speaker 5: I think that the Guardians historically have always thought of

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Speaker 5: about what happened, specially with the Gambley stuff. You know,

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Speaker 5: their pitching has been good, the starting pitching has been good,

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Speaker 3: So it's just what they always do.

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Speaker 5: They just always find value from these guys that maybe

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Speaker 5: it's definitely a cultural thing there that you can go

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Speaker 1: Eric Tanner, Biby and Gavin Williams anchoring the Cleveland rotation

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Speaker 1: obviously should have, could have, would have. But if they

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Speaker 1: this week about how all thirty teams have holes, right,

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Speaker 2: Well, I know Tanner, Biby and Gavin Williams are not

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Speaker 2: lineup just isn't It's like an every other year lineup.

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Speaker 2: It's a Bruce Bochie lineup, like they show up every

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Speaker 2: other year and they do awesome. Where did all that

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Speaker 2: Obviously you have an envy perennial top five MVP finisher

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Speaker 2: Why he doesn't walk more is clueless to me, because

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Speaker 2: Teams just are afraid to walk him, and he's afraid

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Speaker 2: at bats from Steven Kwan, you're really not getting a

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Speaker 2: lot of fear in other teams pitchers, scouting reports, it's like, hey,

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Speaker 2: You know, that's about it. You take Josh Naylor out

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Speaker 2: I just think it's I think it's too little in

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Speaker 2: I know they've been clamoring for their ownership to spend

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Speaker 3: It's just a good place to pitch.

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Speaker 1: I am back, gentlemen, I am back. Let me ask

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Speaker 1: you this, more surprised, Trevor if the Guardians got in

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Speaker 1: if the Diamondbacks got in over the New York Mets.

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Speaker 5: I would say I would say more surprised if the

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Speaker 5: Guardians got in, simply because the teams that they're chasing,

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Speaker 5: So and then the Diamondbacks they have maintained one of

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Speaker 1: The Milwaukee Brewers magic number to win the NL Central

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Speaker 5: two seamer and it's a four seam, and sometimes it's

435
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Speaker 5: like a cutter, and he doesn't even really throw one

436
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Speaker 5: of those really, so it's like he's just dip dive

437
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:27,879
Speaker 5: and dodging him up there and always has been. And

438
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Speaker 5: then you add the type of stuff the velo behind that.

439
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,640
Speaker 5: Him striking out thirteen guys in surprised me one bit.

440
00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:36,359
Speaker 5: I believe that's his eighteenth win. So you can't always

441
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Speaker 5: say this. I think it's important. I think we focus

442
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,240
Speaker 5: on the negative a little bit too much sometimes. But

443
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Speaker 5: you got your money's worth from signing Max Freed this offseason.

444
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Speaker 5: I'd say that one has worked out so far.

445
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Speaker 1: I like the dodgeball reference, dip dive, duck dodge. The

446
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 1: Yankees closed within three games of the Blue Jays of

447
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,399
Speaker 1: the course, who lost earlier in the day to the

448
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Speaker 1: raise we're talking about yesterday. New York's edge over Houston

449
00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 1: Seattle remained at two games from the top ale wild

450
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Speaker 1: card spot. Two weeks ago, I said the Yankees weren't

451
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Speaker 1: making the postseason, and now there are three games ahead

452
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Speaker 1: in the wild Card shows you what I know. But

453
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Speaker 1: let's talk about Max Reed a little bit more. We

454
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Speaker 1: talked so much, you guys, deservedly so, of what Aaron

455
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Speaker 1: Judge does. Eric Kratz, who is your MVP in the

456
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Speaker 1: American League, You've been very strict about that. We talked

457
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Speaker 1: so much about what he means to the team. But

458
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Speaker 1: what is Max Fried meant, especially in the absence of

459
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Speaker 1: Garrett Cole. Louise Heil took a bit to get back.

460
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Speaker 1: You know, Carlos Rodonna has been good this year for

461
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Speaker 1: the Yankees, but Max Freed, what he's done, I think

462
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Speaker 1: means more considering they don't have Garrett Cole.

463
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Speaker 4: For sure.

464
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Speaker 2: I mean, when you go out to sign, when you

465
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Speaker 2: got to sign a guy like Max Freed, you're like,

466
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Speaker 2: WHOA Can you imagine Game one Garrett Cole, Max Free,

467
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Speaker 2: Game two, Carlos Rodin, Game three, Louis Heel Game four

468
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Speaker 2: like that. They had dreams of this. Cole goes down.

469
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Speaker 2: Rodnna has stepped up immensely for this team. I think

470
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Speaker 2: he does better when he's not in a when he's

471
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Speaker 2: in a spotlight, like when it's like his turn to go,

472
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Speaker 2: He's he's taking the next step for me. Heel's been down.

473
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Speaker 2: They've had guys like Slitler and Will Warren step up

474
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Speaker 2: for him. So it's not what they thought the Yankees

475
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Speaker 2: rotation was gonna look like. So that's how important the

476
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Speaker 2: Max Freed signing was. So many teams signed pitchers and

477
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Speaker 2: the pitchers didn't work out this year, but they didn't

478
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Speaker 2: go for the Max Freed, the Corbin Burns, the trade

479
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Speaker 2: for Garrett Crochet. They went for like, we'll just get

480
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Speaker 2: a one year deal. I will give this guy a

481
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Speaker 2: two year deal. But we see a lot of upside.

482
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Speaker 2: Yankee said, screw it. Who's the best pitcher available. He

483
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Speaker 2: wants a bigger contract than David Price Scott, we'll give

484
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Speaker 2: it to him. They broke that record for left handers.

485
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Speaker 4: Bang. Now they're getting paying the dividends.

486
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Speaker 2: And I'm gonna go back to two thousand and nine,

487
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Speaker 2: the last time the Yankees won the World Series. What

488
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Speaker 2: Max Freed is doing. Don't compare the numbers, Just compare

489
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Speaker 2: how important it is and the fact that it's the

490
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Speaker 2: first year that they signed this guy. The Yankees won

491
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Speaker 2: the World Series the first year they signed C. C. Sabathia.

492
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Speaker 2: He was the best available in the market. The Yankees

493
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Speaker 2: are in line to make the playoffs on not according

494
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Speaker 2: to Alana Rizzo two weeks ago. But they signed Max

495
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Speaker 2: Free the best available pitcher, and he is having that

496
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Speaker 2: type of year that CC had where the numbers aren't

497
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Speaker 2: like WHOA like a one era. He's out there every

498
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Speaker 2: single day. Now he's leading the league and wins, which matters.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yankees, by the way, only have a two game lead

501
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Speaker 1: over Houston in Seattle right now. I apologize that was

502
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Speaker 1: my mistake earlier I said three, but it's only a

503
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Speaker 1: two game lead. Trevor May, did the New York Yankees

504
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Speaker 1: have enough to get to the World Series and moreover

505
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Speaker 1: win it?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely?

507
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Speaker 5: I mean they've always they've been a deep team. They have,

508
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Speaker 5: you know, they're there's a couple question marks in the bullpen,

509
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Speaker 5: but some guys have stepped up.

510
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Speaker 3: At least the bridge side of.

511
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Speaker 5: Things has been pretty strong with Fernando Cruz and I

512
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 5: know Lighter Junior struggled a little bit there in the middle,

513
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Speaker 5: but he has been better as of late. So they

514
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Speaker 5: have enough depth, They have enough guys that can step up,

515
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Speaker 5: and it's one of those lineups like you know, a

516
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Speaker 5: Cody Belager, you know, he's been I think under the

517
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 5: radar very good this year. They have guys who can

518
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 5: take over games and they're always gonna have the threat

519
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 5: of the home run, and that is just something that

520
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 5: if it's timed right, can be just devastating in a

521
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Speaker 5: playoff situation. We saw it happened last year there there

522
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Speaker 5: for the most part, most of the players are back

523
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Speaker 5: and guys who experienced it and and have that experience

524
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Speaker 5: under the belt. So yeah, it's one of those things

525
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Speaker 5: like if the Yankees make the playoffs, they're just there

526
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Speaker 5: is a path for because they probably have a handful

527
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Speaker 5: of the best players in the league. They always do

528
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Speaker 5: and that that remains true. So it's all about getting

529
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Speaker 5: hot at the right time. Though I think things of

530
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Speaker 5: you know, even out since that nine and that's why

531
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Speaker 5: it's been tough for them. But they still make the

532
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Speaker 5: playoffs every year. So yes, I'll never count the Yankees

533
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Speaker 5: out call that just a little bit of PTSD for

534
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 5: my entire life. But they're always in it and they're

535
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 5: always they always have a chance.

536
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Speaker 1: Spoken like a guy who has pitched the majority of

537
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Speaker 1: his career in the American League, any concern about the

538
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Speaker 1: Yankee bullpen Trevor May Eric Kratz. If you take a

539
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Speaker 1: look at the numbers recently, they're twenty ninth as far

540
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Speaker 1: as their ere ranking since August first, being the worst

541
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Speaker 1: in the majors, teetering between basically north of five and

542
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Speaker 1: a half.

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Speaker 2: I think maybe they picked up some dudes that got

544
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Speaker 2: worn out by their other teams. I mean, because their

545
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 2: starting rotation is giving them some length and their bullpen

546
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Speaker 2: is there's a lot of new guys with Bednar stepping

547
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Speaker 2: up that is huge. I think Luke Weaver may have

548
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Speaker 2: come back from the il to soon that was during

549
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 2: this August first stint, and they have nine games to

550
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 2: figure out who is going to be the hottest going

551
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 2: into into the playoffs for them, because that's who they're

552
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 2: gonna ride. There's no going to well, you know, let's

553
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 2: let's find a soft landing spot. Every time I turn

554
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 2: on the Yes Network, that's what I hear. Oh yeah,

555
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 2: Aaron Boone's looking for a soft landing spot here for

556
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 2: Devin Williams, for Kabilo Duval for.

557
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Speaker 4: Who else.

558
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 2: Like it's basically lighter Junior and Bednar and Fernando Cruz.

559
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 2: If he's throwing strikes, you can't find a soft landing

560
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Speaker 2: spot in the playoffs. You need, in my opinion, if

561
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 2: you want to win it all, you need four or

562
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Speaker 2: five guys that you can count on. If you want

563
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 2: to hope, you have three guys, and right now I

564
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 2: think they're right in that three guy. I hope they

565
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Speaker 2: all do well and we get seven from Max Freed.

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Speaker 1: A win on Friday, guys, puts the Bombers twenty games

567
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,479
Speaker 1: over five hundred for the first time this season. So

568
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: it's not like they're not winning games, but they definitely

569
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 1: need to play more fundamentally sound baseball. Obviously pitch defense,

570
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: you guys know it better than anybody else having been

571
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Speaker 1: in this league. As long as you have really quick Trevor,

572
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 1: because before we get to break, we've had this conversation

573
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Speaker 1: a lot. It's been the top of the top of DuJour,

574
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Speaker 1: if you will, who's your AL MVP, Judge Brawley.

575
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Speaker 3: It's the boring answer.

576
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Speaker 5: It's very likely, Judge, I think things needed to happen

577
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Speaker 5: or still I mean it's still possible. I think if

578
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 5: there's in this last week major heroics from cal Rawley

579
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Speaker 5: that in a Mariner sweep of the Houston Astros to

580
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Speaker 5: give him. The debate like if something like that happens,

581
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Speaker 5: or he somehow gets the sixty homers or even crazier,

582
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 5: you know, he's hit multi homers and ten games is

583
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 5: here if he just rattled three more off and got

584
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Speaker 5: to close to Judge's record, I think that story might

585
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 5: push him forward. But just the offensive differences are just

586
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 5: he's just eighty points ahead of him in batting average.

587
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 5: I understand the batting average isn't our end. I'll be

588
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 5: all a statistic, but like almost one hundred points, that's

589
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 5: just too much in my opinion.

590
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 3: But you know who, you never know. There's something called

591
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 3: voter fatigue.

592
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Speaker 5: Sometimes you just want to see a different option if

593
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,959
Speaker 5: it's really close. This has happened a lot in the

594
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 5: history of baseball, so but I think just in terms

595
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 5: of just general straight up most valuable player, I.

596
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Speaker 3: Mean, it's just really hard to say.

597
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 5: It's not an inn Judge every single year, So it's

598
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 5: probably he's probably the front runner if we're going objectively

599
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 5: on statistics.

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Speaker 3: But that's not how humans work, so we'll see.

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Speaker 4: I get it.

602
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Speaker 1: I think I don't think there's a wrong answer. I mean, everybody,

603
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: of course, who wants the other guys going to say

604
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: that they made the wrong decision, But I completely understand

605
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: where you're coming from. Don't look now, guys, but the Dodgers'

606
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: pitching staff looks pretty.

607
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 2: Deep, pretty pretty.

608
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Speaker 1: Good, Bob Nightingale. The Dodger starting rotation continues to thrive,

609
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Speaker 1: giving up only one hit the entire game, Winning two

610
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Speaker 1: to one over the Giants. They boost their lead to

611
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Speaker 1: three games over the pottery is the pottery is lost yesterday.

612
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Speaker 1: So the magic number for Los Angeles guys is six.

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Speaker 1: Trevor May, I'll ask you, uh, do the Dodgers have

614
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Speaker 1: the best starting rotation right now? Season ends today, Game

615
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,479
Speaker 1: one starts tomorrow. Who has a better rotation?

616
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Speaker 5: Well, we're going to talk about the big three? Uh

617
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Speaker 5: in Snell last now and Yamamoto. That is not one

618
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Speaker 5: that you want to run into. I would say, yeah,

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Speaker 5: I'll give them a yes. I think that three those

620
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Speaker 5: three guys dialed in which Bill accounts they are. That's

621
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Speaker 5: that's not someone that's a buzzsaw. That's a potential bud saw.

622
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Speaker 5: You got to get to you know, you want to

623
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Speaker 5: get through one guy usually and then try to work

624
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Speaker 5: your work your way feel better about facing that second

625
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 5: third guy, That's not the case here. So I would

626
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Speaker 5: say position wise for a playoff series, they're just as good,

627
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 5: probably the best.

628
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:05,719
Speaker 1: Eric. I think it's fair to say that they are

629
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Speaker 1: in the National League. But is Seattle's rotation better than

630
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: the Dodgers?

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you take Seattle's pitchers best years, Yeah, Brent,

632
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 2: I mean right now, no, No, they are literally what

633
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 2: the tweet said, unhittable. Now, how is this going to

634
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 2: continue to translate when Will Smith comes back and is

635
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 2: the main catcher. Because I give a lot of credit

636
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Speaker 2: Ben Roarved, who will be on the show next week,

637
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 2: has come in here and absolutely put the golden fingers down.

638
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 2: I guess they don't put fingers down anymore. He's hitting

639
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 2: the golden buttons. This starting rotation has not gotten hit

640
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 2: I'm not I don't even care about strikeouts. Yamamoto I

641
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 2: think was getting squeezed, you know, his last doubting So

642
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 2: I sit there and I go, you know, he's still

643
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 2: able to do this when the strike zone last night

644
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 2: was like this big like these guys are getting outs

645
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 2: in the zone and they're getting him to chase late.

646
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 2: It's they are hitting on all cylinders. I don't think

647
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 2: there's a starting rotation that's close right now.

648
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Speaker 1: Benny Rose coming on the show next week. You guys

649
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: got Ben Rourtvett. He's a Dodger legend, playing out of

650
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Speaker 1: his mind right now.

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Speaker 2: All of his muscles, all of his muscles.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what he said.

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Speaker 2: That's what he said.

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Speaker 4: That's what he said.

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Speaker 1: That's what he said. You thought the other day, guys,

656
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Speaker 1: when Brett Snell Blake Snell rather did not want to

657
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Speaker 1: get taken out of the game. Rtt Bollinger reporting that.

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Speaker 1: You say Kakuchi was frustrated that he was taken out

659
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Speaker 1: of the game in the sixth All year have been

660
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Speaker 1: grinding for the team, right So in that spot, I

661
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Speaker 1: wanted to be trusted a little bit more, and I

662
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Speaker 1: felt like I wasn't trusted in that moment. Of course,

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Speaker 1: he said this through his interpreter, Yusuke Oshima. You want this, though,

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Speaker 1: don't you, Eric. You want a guy that doesn't want

665
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Speaker 1: to be taken out of the game. Give me the ball,

666
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Speaker 1: Let me stay in the game, Let me get out

667
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Speaker 1: of my own traffic if I caused it, let me

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Speaker 1: fix my own mess.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and maybe he's been watching his bullpen give it

670
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Speaker 2: up like they did last night. When his fellow starters

671
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Speaker 2: get out there, I think a guy he's thirty four now,

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Speaker 2: I think he definitely deserves the chance to get himself

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Speaker 2: out of his own mess, especially in a game where

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Speaker 2: they're out of it like the Angels. The Angels are

675
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Speaker 2: out of it. They were in this game, they're out

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Speaker 2: of it for the season.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think there's something to be said, but I also

679
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Speaker 2: know that the Angels just haven't figured out how to

680
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Speaker 2: win games. And you have to be able to trust

681
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Speaker 2: that the guy you're bringing in is going to get

682
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Speaker 2: the job done. He didn't last night. So I applaug

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Speaker 2: Kakuchi for saying what he said. I agree.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you want a guy that wants to take

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Speaker 1: the ball, Trevor. Is there a situation there where you

686
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Speaker 1: sometimes you have to save a guy from himself.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, this wasn't one of those situations. I'm fairly

688
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Speaker 5: certain Yusee Kaguchi is the highest paid guy in their

689
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Speaker 5: rotation as well. He's yeah, he's he's been around.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 5: If anyone deserves to be given a little bit more

692
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Speaker 5: leashed there, it's him. And I understand it's frustrating because

693
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Speaker 5: he does look around. He sees like, you know, I

694
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Speaker 5: don't have confidence that this game is going to be

695
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Speaker 5: locked down the way that I would prefer to be.

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Speaker 5: But you know, even beyond that, we're out of it.

697
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 5: We're out of it again, and uh, we need to

698
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Speaker 5: stop acting as if we got to.

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Speaker 3: Like we're playing the game.

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Speaker 5: By the by the numbers every moment here right now,

701
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Speaker 5: because it just doesn't matter. I can you know, I

702
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Speaker 5: me being able to get through this is uh entirely plausible.

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Speaker 5: And even if you don't, you're not confident from a

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Speaker 5: number standpoint that I can do it?

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Speaker 3: Does it really matter now?

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Speaker 5: So it's what I'm always for guys trying to go

707
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Speaker 5: get that extra because you were able to do it.

708
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Speaker 5: That could mean pay dividends long term in a confidence way,

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Speaker 5: especially young guys. I want young guys the opportunity to

710
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Speaker 5: get out of owning innings more often. So I'm definitely

711
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Speaker 5: in that camp as well. I just think it's in

712
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Speaker 5: terms of development or just building confidence and feeling good

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Speaker 5: about how you're ending the year.

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Speaker 3: It's just goes long way.

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Speaker 5: Just getting that one extra hout or getting out of

716
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Speaker 5: a tough situation when you're tired. It's really important for

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Speaker 5: pitchrisfield do that.

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Speaker 1: Two completely different scenarios. Milwaukee Brewers, of course, have already

719
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 1: clinched their division. They're trying to figure out seating as

720
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Speaker 1: far as that is concerned, And of course the Los

721
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Speaker 1: Angeles Angels have been eliminated once again, have not made

722
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Speaker 1: the postseason. Guys since twenty eleven. Let's talk a bit

723
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Speaker 1: about the Mets beating the pod Sorry, sorry, twenty fourteen,

724
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: eleven years. That's what it was, eleven years, not twenty eleven.

725
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Speaker 1: My bad. The Mets beat the Padres. Rookie Jonahtong went

726
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 1: five innings with one run. He had eight punch outs yesterday. Again,

727
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Speaker 1: a lot of teams at this point in the season

728
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Speaker 1: look into the young arms eric to either get them

729
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Speaker 1: into the Promised Land or continue to get further into

730
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Speaker 1: the promised land. What do you like about Tong?

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Speaker 2: I mean, just the fact that he is not afraid

732
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Speaker 2: to throw the ball in the strike zone. He was

733
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Speaker 2: facing a lineup that on paper looks pretty scary right now.

734
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Speaker 2: I don't think they're taking their big league wood up

735
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Speaker 2: to the plate, but it's definitely a team that is

736
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 2: a scary looking lineup for a young pitcher, and he

737
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 2: attacked the zone yesterday. Obviously everyone's gonna say, oh, is

738
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Speaker 2: it Tim Lincicom. It's unbelievable. Tim tong You know, I've seen,

739
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 2: you know, the Mets fans had had tongs out. They

740
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 2: brought tongs to the game every strikeout. So it was

741
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 2: creative the Mets fans. They need gimmicks, you know, to

742
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:42,240
Speaker 2: keep themselves in this season. But I just can't believe

743
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 2: how many rookies we've seen step up in big situations,

744
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 2: in situations where teams normally a rookie comes up at

745
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 2: this time of year for a playoff contending team, and

746
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 2: you say, man, we really need this guy to step

747
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 2: into our fifth spot, our fourth spot. Nolan McLain has

748
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 2: pitched in Game one for the Mets. If they make

749
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Speaker 2: the playoffs, Jonah Tongue, he's gonna have to put together

750
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:10,760
Speaker 2: another start. I think I think sprot in him didn't

751
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 2: do what McClain did. But what McClain did was epic.

752
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 2: I mean, you Savage Trey, you Savage up North in

753
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 2: the six they don't even need a starting pitcher, and

754
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 2: he stepped up and showed, man, you gotta get some

755
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 2: innings out of this guy in the playoffs, like it

756
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 2: is a rare thing. And I always bring up Brandon

757
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 2: Finnigan in twenty fourteen because when you're rookie, you are

758
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 2: going through everything that rookies go through normally, where you're

759
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 2: like which side is our clubhouse? On? How much do

760
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 2: I pay clubhouse dues? Do I have to carry the

761
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 2: beer onto the plane? Like what do I have to do?

762
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 2: And then they're going out there and just absolutely dealing.

763
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Speaker 2: And I loved to see what Brandon Finnigan did, so

764
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 2: I if I'm run an organization, I'm doing this. If

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Speaker 2: you look at a guy and he has stuff like

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Speaker 2: tongue has, I'm throwing them out there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're looking at these guys to trev and you're

768
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: looking at them. Back in the day when September callups

769
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: happened and you can bring you could bring up nine

770
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy two people, and the clubhouse was like

771
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: everyone's smashed together. Sometimes you just needed guys to come

772
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Speaker 1: up and give your starters a blow. Sometimes you just

773
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 1: needed an extra arm. You needed to give your bullpen

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00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: guy arrest or whatever it was. Now, if they're being

775
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: called up, they're expected to get into the game and

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00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: they're expected to produce. And they're looking at these young guys,

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00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: the Peyton Tollies of the world, the Earlies of the world,

778
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Speaker 1: the Tongs, the you know, the Y Savage in Toronto

779
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Speaker 1: who's probably going to come out of the bullpen for

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Speaker 1: the Blue Jays in the postseason. Does that surprise you

781
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Speaker 1: that they're looking at these guys as being key productive

782
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: members of what they're trying to accomplish. It almost seems

783
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: like that particular script has shifted where you're not just

784
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: a body anymore. You're not just a warm bodied individual.

785
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Speaker 1: You're expected to produce.

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00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's a product of the rosters going

787
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 5: from forty possibly to twenty eight. If you have a

788
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 5: spot on this team, we're gonna need you to play.

789
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 5: You have to play, and you have to play regularly.

790
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 5: And that's why it's usually a starting pitcher, six man rotation.

791
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 5: And I think that the league is getting younger and

792
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 5: younger and younger, so we're seeing rookies kind of become

793
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 5: bigger roles earlier when they come up. But rookies, rookies

794
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:24,439
Speaker 5: coming up and being successful has a long history of

795
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 5: playing a huge role in a September playoff push or

796
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 5: even a good run into the playoffs. Corey Seeger came

797
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 5: on and you went crazy and then became a big

798
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 5: reason for the Dodgers' success that year. We had Evan

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Speaker 5: Carter as soon as early as twenty twenty three coming

800
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 5: up in September. I was their for his debut and

801
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 5: then he became a huge part of that team on

802
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 5: their run. Like this is something that always happens, and

803
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 5: if you get young guys who are able to do

804
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 5: it immediately, Like what is the Met's biggest issue?

805
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:54,240
Speaker 3: Starting pitching?

806
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 5: Like they lost everybody, lost everybody to start the year,

807
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 5: and they lost everybody again halfway through the year.

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00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 3: So they needed guys to come step up.

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00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,720
Speaker 5: They've had They've had McLean who is going to start

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Speaker 5: Game one?

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Speaker 3: He better?

812
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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 5: And then you got Tom and David Peterson. This depth

814
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 5: is huge and for them to they come in and

815
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 5: they know that, like they know that they're gonna have

816
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,479
Speaker 5: to throw meaningful innings in order to pull this thing off.

817
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 5: And knowing that right away instead of being like I

818
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 5: don't know if I'm gonna be called on to do

819
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Speaker 5: this because there's fifty guys here, that's a big difference.

820
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Speaker 5: It's easier to make that jump when it's kind of

821
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 5: like you look around, you're like, oh, it's me like that.

822
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Speaker 5: Sometimes you got to be thrown into the fire. And

823
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Speaker 5: and that's when you see guys step up or not

824
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 5: and start their careers out well. And it's nice to

825
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 5: see so many young guys really stepping up.

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Speaker 1: It really is. We seized it off the top of

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Speaker 1: this segment, so we got to get to it. But

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Speaker 1: brandon Nimo had some funny comments. Abby Misstroco tweeted, brandon

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Speaker 1: Neimo said, you miss all of the shots you don't

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Speaker 1: take when talking about his home run. When asked if

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Speaker 1: he was quoting Wayne Gretzky or Michael Scott of the Office,

832
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 1: he said he was quoting brandon Nimo. He did a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a Ricky Henderson there, talking about the

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Speaker 1: third person, right, he said, brandon Nimo had that quote.

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Speaker 1: So interesting stuff from the Mets again, we'll see hanging

836
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Speaker 1: on for dear life and that final spot in the

837
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Speaker 1: National League. While the card Well Mariners win guys back

838
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,919
Speaker 1: tied for first in the AL West. This whole AO

839
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 1: West situation is so unbelievable. Seattle's now tied atop the

840
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: Ale West with Houston eighty four and sixty nine. The

841
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 1: two clubs open a crucial three game set beginning to

842
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,720
Speaker 1: day at dyk In Park that will not only determine

843
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: the playoff tie breaker, but could decide the division title

844
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: as well. E K, which way does this go?

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Speaker 2: One team is going to win the first game and

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00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 2: then the next two games. Another team is going to

847
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 2: win the next two games. That's how it's going to go.

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00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 2: This is going must see this, really I see. I

849
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 2: see the Mariners taking this series.

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00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 4: Why. I have no idea.

851
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,879
Speaker 2: Everything about the last eight years of baseball should tell

852
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 2: me Nope, the Astros are going to do it. But

853
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 2: in my mind, I'm going the Mariners taking this series.

854
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 2: I just feel like their pitching is gonna line up

855
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 2: to be able to attack these guys. I feel like

856
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 2: cal Rawley would love to play in a tiny park

857
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 2: like Daikan, and I think they're gonna be putting East

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00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 2: Sooc parades in the lineup here at some point this weekend,

859
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 2: and he's not gonna be able to run at all,

860
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 2: and he's not gonna be I just I just feel

861
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 2: like things are lining up for the Mariners to do it.

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00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 2: So history will tell you.

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Speaker 4: I'm wrong, Trevor.

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00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 1: He was talking about Estoc Parades not being able to run.

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00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: Jordon Alvarez probably not gonna be back until the postseason.

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00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: But that's a guy you don't need him to run

867
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,479
Speaker 1: because he can hit home runs. Are they bringing back

868
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: ESOC too quickly? I mean, I guess they don't have

869
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: a choice, or do they? Oh, mic Is, do they

870
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: have a choice? Derek? Do they have a choice?

871
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 2: No, they don't have a choice. They need that offense.

872
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 2: But again, guys just keep stepping up if it means

873
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 2: bring I guess there's no direct correlations between Estop Paradis

874
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 2: and that cole. But like, they just find guys. They

875
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 2: find guys to step in. They put them in situations

876
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 2: that have success, and dudes step up and do it

877
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 2: like that's just what the Astros do. Estot Paradis is

878
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 2: a better hitter than anything they have on the bench,

879
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 2: So yes, you need them in there, but they haven't

880
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 2: needed him since he's been gone. They haven't needed your

881
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 2: Don since he's been gone. It's just it's a crazy

882
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 2: anomaly that doesn't make baseball sense.

883
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 4: Because all they do is win, win, win, No matter what.

884
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 2: I think.

885
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: That's a song. Do you go like this? Can I

886
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:40,959
Speaker 1: get a All I do is win win win?

887
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no matter what, no matter what.

888
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 1: You got it there say that. Guys. I don't know

889
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: what you think about this, but to me, this stinks.

890
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: Apple TV gets the game tonight for Kershaw's last regular

891
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 1: season start of his career, and they're not simulcasting it

892
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: on Sports net LA. That bums me out.

893
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 4: Big fail. I know they didn't plan this, I get it.

894
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: No, they didn't. They didn't to be sure.

895
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 4: Big fail.

896
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess this is why Apple pays this

897
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 2: kind of cash, you know, I guess their Their answer

898
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 2: to that is okay, well just sign up for Apple TV,

899
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,439
Speaker 2: sign up for our description. You know. It's like it's

900
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 2: like when they got the Amazon games for football last year.

901
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 2: Amazon had just a massive increase in subscriptions.

902
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: But it sucks and why they do it, but it's

903
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: just it's unfortunate. It's like I remember when I first

904
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: started working for Sports net LA and it wasn't widely

905
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: distributed and most folks missed out on Vin Scully's last

906
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: year televising and broadcasting. So this is just a bummer.

907
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 1: You know, I get it. It's not Apple's fault. It's

908
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: not Sports and LA's fault. It's just the i'ming issue.

909
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: But this stinks. Blake Harris, you know, obviously tweeting that

910
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 1: the big chunk of fans are not going to be

911
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: able to watch the game. I mean, that's a bummer, right,

912
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: I mean, Trevor, I know you respect Clayton Krusha obviously,

913
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: I think we all do, but to not be able

914
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 1: to see his last start at home in a regular

915
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: season hopefully he gets, you know, some postseason innings, but

916
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 1: you'd want to be able to see every pitch that

917
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 1: Clayton throws tonight.

918
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, It's stinks. It's just it's it's unfortunate, and I

919
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 5: mean maybe I don't know how you avoid this other

920
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 5: than like Clayton announces it a month ago, Like I

921
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 5: really don't. I really don't know how you could, how

922
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 5: you can do it. Don't really blame anyone for drop

923
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 5: the ball on it. It just it's unfortunate. But it

924
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 5: does look like he's going to have an opportunity to

925
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 5: throw in the postseason again, and hopefully that is a

926
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 5: home game. But we would I think we would all

927
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 5: rather not have to cross our fingers if that happens, so.

928
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: No question about that. Clayton, in true Clayton fashion, didn't

929
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: want to announce it early, I believe because he doesn't

930
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: want the pomp and circumstance and twenty seven, you know,

931
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: twenty nine other teams given them all the stuff, so

932
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: that's why he announced it today. A j Ellis knows

933
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: Clayton Kershaw better than anybody. We're going to talk to

934
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: him next. What's up, Eric? He looks like you have

935
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 1: something to say now.

936
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say you got the Legacy pick

937
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 2: for the All Star Game though? Didn't he He did?

938
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 2: He did, Max, Max, Scherzer and Verlander didn't. Do you

939
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 2: think they turned it down?

940
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 3: I don't know.

941
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to put words in their mouth, but

942
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 1: we'd have to ask ask Ken. That's a good question.

943
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,760
Speaker 1: Chandler Rome, who does a great job on the Crush

944
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 1: City Territory podcast here on the Foul Territory Network, had

945
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: this to say. The Astros plan to activate Estoch Parades

946
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: off the injured list prior to Tonight's game against the Maritors'

947
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: sources tell the athletic Parades has been out since July

948
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: nineteenth after suffering a severe right hamstring string. First on

949
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: it was Brian McTaggart, who works for MLB dot Com

950
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: covering the Strows.

951
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 2: Eric.

952
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: We've talked about it. Man Calf's hamstrings obliques, they're tricky.

953
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 1: I hope this isn't too soon.

954
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 4: I mean, it's so close to the end. You just.

955
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 2: You're just gonna get what you get from him. He's

956
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 2: not gonna have the fatigue factor, I don't think. But

957
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 2: you also just you don't have top high end speed.

958
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 2: You never had it. But you're going to see a

959
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 2: lot of gian Carlos Stanton type of runs. And is

960
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 2: he going to be able to go in a You're

961
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 2: gonna play some close games with the Mariners this series.

962
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 2: Is he gonna get a base hit or walk? Because

963
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 2: he does a great job of handling the zone so well.

964
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 2: Is he gonna walk and then a base hit? Is

965
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 2: he gonna be able to go first to third? That's

966
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,399
Speaker 2: probably why they're activating him, because he says he can.

967
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 2: Is it at a job? Can he score from second?

968
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 4: We'll see, Trevor.

969
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: They have to do it right, I mean they've got

970
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: to get into I mean they're gonna get in, I

971
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: would think, unless the Guardians make them like whatever. I mean,

972
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 1: the Guardians do control their own destiny, but uh, it's

973
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: a matter of getting in or winning the division. I mean,

974
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: I guess they go for broke here.

975
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's it's an all hands on deck situation.

976
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 5: I think every single year there's guys with a legal,

977
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 5: little nagging injury going on or something where they're trying

978
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 5: to come back real quick. I remember back in twenty

979
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 5: twenty two, we had Starling Marte with his hands just

980
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 5: come in, no no rehab for the last week of

981
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 5: the season, just come in and he had no problems

982
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 5: with it. So that might be an issue or that

983
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 5: might that might be what happens, but they just need

984
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 5: him to swing it. That really at the end of

985
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 5: the day, they just really need him to swing it.

986
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 5: And I am a little bit I comes to this stuff.

987
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 5: Sometimes they'll get a little tricky, especially with hamstrings.

988
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 3: And when it.

989
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 5: Happened, it was really really bad. No one seemed very

990
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 5: optimistic about it. So I'm hoping that this wasn't a

991
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 5: situation where he feels pressure to do it to kind

992
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 5: of like push him through the end and and you know,

993
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 5: getting ten more days maybe make him ready for the playoffs.

994
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 3: And that's what the problem is.

995
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 5: I hope that's not the case, but if not, you know,

996
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 5: I think anyone in that lineup, say, will take all

997
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,399
Speaker 5: the helping get so I guess we'll have to see

998
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 5: kind of what level he's at.

999
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: We're slapping hands, Trevor and Eric. Any final thoughts on

1000
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: the day before we head into the weekend. Trevor, you

1001
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,959
Speaker 1: go first, A.

1002
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 5: Lot of big series happening right here at the end

1003
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,280
Speaker 5: of the end of the season. I will be watching

1004
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 5: the Mariners take on the Astros. But you got a

1005
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 5: lot of options, so enjoy it. Enjoy it because baseball

1006
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 5: will not be here forever. The end is coming. So wow,

1007
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:41,959
Speaker 5: go go watch these get.

1008
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 2: The end of the season.

1009
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: Are we talking? I thought we were talking like work

1010
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 1: stoppage or something. I'm like, geez, that really dark.

1011
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 5: No, no, no, that's at least twelve months away from

1012
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 5: me saying that.

1013
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: Don't forget guys. You can catch may Days on Wednesdays

1014
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: at three pm Eastern right after failed Territory. Eric kra

1015
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: any final thoughts, what are you watching this weekend? Seattle

1016
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 1: and Houston? I'm sure is on everybody's mind.

1017
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,919
Speaker 2: There's no there's no way anybody should be watching anything else.

1018
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 2: I get it, there's other games, but that is the series,

1019
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,280
Speaker 2: and I hope the first one is an absolute banger,

1020
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 2: one run game. Houston comes back, blows in the ninth,

1021
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,240
Speaker 2: cal Riley hits two dangers.

1022
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 4: That's what I need. That's what I need to see

1023
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 4: this weekend.

1024
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 1: That would be great to see before we let you go.

1025
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,240
Speaker 1: What's Kratz hats? What do you got tonight?

1026
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 2: My most versatile hat, Washington Nationals. It can also be this.

1027
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 2: It can also be the Twins if you want it

1028
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:40,760
Speaker 2: to be. If you can wear your hat upside down.

1029
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: Kinda looks like the Marlins a little bit, a little

1030
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: bit of.

1031
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 2: Oh oh wait, oh oh, that's the last one.

1032
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 4: It's the Marlins.

1033
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: It is versatile. That is a versatile versatility for everybody

1034
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 1: here on foul Territory. Trevor May, Eric Kratz, Jeremy Meyer,

1035
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: Claudia Olsen, yab Mark, all of us. I'm Alana Rizzo.

1036
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for being here. Have a great weekend, everybody.

1037
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1038
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,040
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