Speaker 1: Everybody, and welcome to another edition of the Dave Pash Podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm your host Arizona Cardinals at ESPN, played by play
Speaker 1: announcer Dave Patch. My guest this week is Robert Griffin,
Speaker 1: the third Heisman Trophy winner at Baylor, Pro Bowl quarterback
Speaker 1: with Washington and current broadcaster at ESPN. He does college
Speaker 1: football games on Saturday, does NFL worked during the weekend
Speaker 1: studio as well as Monday night count Out. We're gonna
Speaker 1: talk with Robert about who his Heisman pick is for
Speaker 1: this season and also former Heisman Trophy winner Kyler Murray winner,
Speaker 1: his thoughts on Kyler and how he's performing with the
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. Will also discuss Robert's current career as a
Speaker 1: television broadcaster and what the future holds for RG three
Speaker 1: in this business, and whether he still has it his
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Speaker 1: called me tomorrow and said, Robert Kenyan tom b r
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Speaker 1: with Robert Griffinth, a third on this week's edition of
Speaker 1: the Day Patch podcast. So, Robert, I've been at ESPN
Speaker 1: and doing the Cardinals for two decades, and I've done
Speaker 1: so many interviews over the years with players and coaches
Speaker 1: across four different sports college football, NFL, NBA, college basketball,
Speaker 1: and there's about probably a dozen that really stand out that,
Speaker 1: like I remember exactly where I was with whom and
Speaker 1: how it went, and you're one of those. It was
Speaker 1: the Alamo Bowl in two thousand and eleven, after you'd
Speaker 1: won the Heisman Trophy. I'm sitting there with Chris Spielman
Speaker 1: and Quint Kesnick, who is your current sideline reporter, and
Speaker 1: first of all, you guys scored sixty seven points. It
Speaker 1: was I was scoring bowl game ever. But the interview
Speaker 1: is what stood out, Man, because you were just so impressive.
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised at all that you've gone into this
Speaker 1: business and have succeeded very early on in your career.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I appreciate that, David. You haven't. You have
Speaker 1: no idea how many times me and quite have talked
Speaker 1: about that Alimo Bowl. Just coming full circle, right, He
Speaker 1: was interviewing me throughout the week, and then now we're
Speaker 1: working together. So it's been a lot of fun. But
Speaker 1: my favorite part about that game was when we were
Speaker 1: down by I believe it was seventeen, like late in
Speaker 1: the third. He came back by running the football consistently,
Speaker 1: just handed it off the Terence Ganaway and I had
Speaker 1: to do what I had to do on a couple
Speaker 1: of blocks, just getting out in the open field and
Speaker 1: blocking from my guys because Washington was playing a lot
Speaker 1: of that two shelf defense that you've seen in the
Speaker 1: NFL now, or they're just trying to make you be patient,
Speaker 1: and that was one of the I think it lasted
Speaker 1: as one of the highest scoring Bowl games of all
Speaker 1: time for a while as a really fun game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's crazy that you actually had remember it in that
Speaker 1: great a detail considering all the great games you played
Speaker 1: and leading up to that to win the Haizard and
Speaker 1: then obviously the next year going to the playoffs with Washington.
Speaker 1: When did you start thinking about getting into this business,
Speaker 1: because obviously you've always been an incredible speaker, very smart guy.
Speaker 1: What is this something you thought about when you were
Speaker 1: in college? So maybe when you're done in the NFL
Speaker 1: you do TV or no, No, Dave. To be honest
Speaker 1: with you, this was never on my radar. Whether I
Speaker 1: played twenty years or five years, It wasn't something that
Speaker 1: I ever thought this was going to be an avenue
Speaker 1: for me. But I was. I say this with all
Speaker 1: good intentions. I was bothered for three years by my
Speaker 1: current agent, Mark Leppselter out of New York, and he
Speaker 1: just saw something in me, felt like I could do
Speaker 1: this and do it at a at a really high
Speaker 1: level for a long time, and after three years, I
Speaker 1: finally gave in. I did an audition with Fox. ESPN
Speaker 1: heard about the audition, I did audition with ESPN, and
Speaker 1: the rest is history. So I just think for me,
Speaker 1: as you know this, you gotta be yourself. Whenever you
Speaker 1: step foot on screen or in a TV booth, you
Speaker 1: gotta be yourself because that's the easiest thing to replicate.
Speaker 1: So over the last year and a half, I've been
Speaker 1: able to do that, have fun, do it in a
Speaker 1: unique way that's unique to myself. And I'm beyond blessed
Speaker 1: to work with Mark Jones and Kim Belton and Quinn
Speaker 1: Kessnick on that crew because we make it fun and
Speaker 1: then you kind of see that in the broadcast. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let me go go back to Kim Belton. Not many
Speaker 1: people realize that, you know, we all have when we
Speaker 1: call a game, we have a producer in our ear.
Speaker 1: That producer is basically the boss of the broadcast. And
Speaker 1: you know it's rare that the producer somebody that was
Speaker 1: an elite athlete. And Kim Belton was a first round
Speaker 1: draft pick of the Phoenix Suns. He's one of the
Speaker 1: all time leading scorers in Stanford basketball history. He was
Speaker 1: my first college football producer at ESPN back in two
Speaker 1: thousand and four. And it has it been helpful for
Speaker 1: you to have somebody in that seat that knows what
Speaker 1: it's like to be an elite athlete like yourself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: David does. And Kim has been in the business forty
Speaker 1: one years. Like he's been doing it doing it for
Speaker 1: a long time. My agent told me when I was
Speaker 1: partnered with Kim that this is the best possible scenario.
Speaker 1: He does an amazing job of helping guys transition from
Speaker 1: going on the field into the broadcast booth. He looked
Speaker 1: at him as a teacher. And as I've gone on
Speaker 1: to work with other producers, Kim still my game producer
Speaker 1: for a college ball but as I've worked with other
Speaker 1: producers and other studio shows or other aspects, there's a
Speaker 1: there's a defining quality about Kim, And you know this,
Speaker 1: he is like the boss, but he just commands a
Speaker 1: certain level of respect that I enjoy the conversation with
Speaker 1: Kim throughout the game when we're talking and where I
Speaker 1: see something and he sees it, and we see the
Speaker 1: game eerily similar. For a basketball guy to really see
Speaker 1: football the way that he does is extremely impressive, and
Speaker 1: I enjoy that part of it. So Kim has been incredible.
Speaker 1: I think he's the best in the business. Obviously, I
Speaker 1: haven't worked with with anybody else on an extended basis,
Speaker 1: but that crew has been really special over the last
Speaker 1: year and a half. You'll have to ask him. I
Speaker 1: can't say who it was, but you'll have to ask
Speaker 1: him about the time he and I were working together
Speaker 1: and I had to break up a fight in the booth.
Speaker 1: So next time you see Kim, say hey, I was
Speaker 1: just I was doing a podcast with Dave and he
Speaker 1: wanted He asked me to have you tell him the
Speaker 1: story of having to break up a fight in the
Speaker 1: booth in Hawaii. No less, wait Hawaii. You know draft
Speaker 1: pick in the NBA. This is a big guy. You
Speaker 1: don't want to mess with him. Well no, well it
Speaker 1: actually it wasn't. The fight wasn't with him. I was
Speaker 1: working with two analysts at the time and the two
Speaker 1: of them were about to throw it down, and so
Speaker 1: I had to I had to intervene. But yeah, there
Speaker 1: was a time too. Again, I can't remember the analysts.
Speaker 1: I remember the analysts name, but I can't say it.
Speaker 1: But you have to ask him about the time that
Speaker 1: he showed up in the booth because his analyst would
Speaker 1: not do what he asked him to do. So Kim
Speaker 1: left the truck out on the press box elevator, stood
Speaker 1: outside the press box and told the guy, are you
Speaker 1: gonna do it? Now? And you have to understand it.
Speaker 1: Kim Melton at six eight, two hundred and forty pounds
Speaker 1: comes to your broadcast boot and says, are you gonna
Speaker 1: do it? You're gonna do it or you're gonna get
Speaker 1: beat down? Oh, behind the scenes of broadcast TV, because
Speaker 1: I've heard some stories back that would really put people
Speaker 1: out there. That's crazy. I know people think like there
Speaker 1: are no egos in this business. There's probably more in
Speaker 1: this business than maybe even on the football field. Obviously,
Speaker 1: you do a lot of NFL stuff. You're doing Monday
Speaker 1: and I countdown. You're really busy right now. You enjoy
Speaker 1: the studio as much as the games. How would you
Speaker 1: kind of how would you measure your enjoyment in terms
Speaker 1: of games versus being in studio or on site. I
Speaker 1: guess it's not really studio you're on site, but it's
Speaker 1: a studio show. Yeah, it's still a studio show. They
Speaker 1: were Monday and I countdown, and you know, I was
Speaker 1: blessed enough to do college game date three or four
Speaker 1: times last year as well. I look at this as
Speaker 1: like a learning experience for me. Anybody that gets into
Speaker 1: like a new field kind of approach it like you
Speaker 1: would if you went to law school, they say, they say,
Speaker 1: when you go to law school, don't try to pick
Speaker 1: what you're gonna do right away. Kind of get a
Speaker 1: glimpse of everything and what's out there, and then whatever
Speaker 1: you gravitate towards that's what you can Then all right,
Speaker 1: this is what I'm going to do for the long
Speaker 1: term future. So for me, I enjoy both studio and
Speaker 1: the game games. It's extremely fun doing NFL and also
Speaker 1: being able to do college has been really fun. And
Speaker 1: as you know, in this business day, the more you
Speaker 1: can do, the more you can do, the more versatility
Speaker 1: you can have, the more opportunities that come your way.
Speaker 1: And I've just been blessed up at ESPN has you know,
Speaker 1: put me in spots that have allowed me to showcase
Speaker 1: that and put me with the right teams to you know,
Speaker 1: really fully maximize my own ability and add to the broadcast,
Speaker 1: whatever broadcast it may be, whether it's studio or on
Speaker 1: the game. So I enjoyed both. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: try to close any doors for myself. But of course,
Speaker 1: everybody wants to wants to call Monday Night football, everybody
Speaker 1: wants to be in a number one game booth. We're
Speaker 1: all trying to go out there and be the next
Speaker 1: John Madden and have fun calling the game and bring
Speaker 1: something new to it. So I'm no different in that.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, I'm here to entertain,
Speaker 1: add to the games, and be a storyteller. Well you
Speaker 1: definitely you've done all those things. You certainly entertain. I
Speaker 1: loved reading the article a Sportilla Street it did on
Speaker 1: you calling you the next breakout start ESPN and highlighting
Speaker 1: some of your commentary. Well not just a commentary like
Speaker 1: you're going in the tunnel at Michigan UM, but also
Speaker 1: some of the comments that you'll make, like I laughed
Speaker 1: out loud at the Black Friday comment man at the
Speaker 1: top of the show last week, because we are on
Speaker 1: right after you guys, and I saw I saw it.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that was okay or not, man,
Speaker 1: but I was die laughing. It's uh, you know some
Speaker 1: of that stuff, like the Black Friday comment. You know,
Speaker 1: I had said something before we went on air to
Speaker 1: Kim and he said, yeah, you're not saying that. So
Speaker 1: like the crew that I'm with and the guys that
Speaker 1: I work with, we have such a great relationship that
Speaker 1: we know what to say, what not to say. We
Speaker 1: know how to approach the line but not cross the line.
Speaker 1: For instance, with Alex Orgy, the quarterback from Michigan early
Speaker 1: in the year, like I wouldn't ever say there's an
Speaker 1: orgy in the end zone if the guy's last name
Speaker 1: was an Orgy, right, there's like a there's a certain
Speaker 1: protective barrier there. It's really thin. And in the middle
Speaker 1: of the year I kind of learned like, all right,
Speaker 1: let's make sure that's not the main thing. And over
Speaker 1: the last part of the year, I haven't had any
Speaker 1: of those types of things pop up because I wanted
Speaker 1: to make sure people understood like, we're here to entertain,
Speaker 1: but we're here to entertain for everybody, and that's why
Speaker 1: we have fun. The Black Friday comment, Listen, it's black
Speaker 1: Black Friday. You got a black play by play guy
Speaker 1: and Mark Jones, you got a black analyst. It was funny.
Speaker 1: It was funny, it was light. Nobody was really offended
Speaker 1: by it. People laughed, like you said, you laughed out loud.
Speaker 1: And we're here to provide entertainment. No, I'm not a comedian.
Speaker 1: And that's why when we break the game down and
Speaker 1: we teach, we draw you in with all those different aspects.
Speaker 1: And that's why, you know, I feel like we want
Speaker 1: to add to the broadcast. And don't be afraid to
Speaker 1: be yourself. If you're a corny dad joke type of guy,
Speaker 1: tell a couple of dad jokes, man, there's nothing wrong
Speaker 1: with that. Well, you certainly break it down too. And
Speaker 1: I want to talk a little bit about I want
Speaker 1: to talk about the Heisman race, but I also want
Speaker 1: to talk about the quarterback for the Cardinals, because there's
Speaker 1: a tight fraternity amongst the Heisman winners and you obviously
Speaker 1: being won and Kyler six or seven years after you
Speaker 1: won it, won his Heisman Trophy in the year four
Speaker 1: with the Cardinals. When you watch Kyler and you watch
Speaker 1: the Cardinals, I know you're doing the best you can
Speaker 1: with all the stuff you have going on to pay
Speaker 1: as close attention as you can. Well, what stands out
Speaker 1: to you about Kyler as an NFL quarterback? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I think this year, more than anything did, Kyler
Speaker 1: seems to be on a different sheet of music than
Speaker 1: the rest of the offense. Now, in their last game,
Speaker 1: I thought it was cleaned up a little bit. You know,
Speaker 1: maybe the players and the coaches got to see Cole
Speaker 1: McCoy go out there and struggle a little bit, and
Speaker 1: maybe that kind of eased some of the tensions in
Speaker 1: the building with Kyla coming back. But I said this
Speaker 1: on Monday, and I count in and I truly believe this.
Speaker 1: Kyler is a very smart player. When we were in
Speaker 1: Mexico and he didn't play, I got to talk to
Speaker 1: him for about ten minutes on the field. He understands
Speaker 1: like the perception that's out there about him, wants to
Speaker 1: clean that up. And I know he didn't help himself
Speaker 1: with the comment he made in the post game saying
Speaker 1: that schematically they were screwed because it just brings more
Speaker 1: turbulence to their room, whether it's the coaches or the
Speaker 1: players or whatever. But he really needs to be the
Speaker 1: one install in the offense. This is a situation in
Speaker 1: Arizona eerily similar to Denver, where Russell Wilson's going to
Speaker 1: be the quarterback. You have to find a way to
Speaker 1: get the most out of him because you guaranteed him
Speaker 1: so much money. No one's gonna trade for Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: at this point. Kyler Murray, on the other hand, it's
Speaker 1: not that no one will trade for him. It's just
Speaker 1: that this was a hand picked ideal situation for him
Speaker 1: with the coach that recruited him out of college, I mean,
Speaker 1: out of high school to go to Texas A and
Speaker 1: M and clip Thingsbury. So if Kyler's seeing things differently
Speaker 1: than the rest of the offense, make him do the installs,
Speaker 1: because then the receivers will know, all right, versus dis coverage,
Speaker 1: this is what Kyler's thinking as opposed to versus dis coverage.
Speaker 1: This is what Cliff Kingsbury is thinking. This is what
Speaker 1: my receiver coach is thinking, this is what the running
Speaker 1: back coach is thinking. And if they do that, I
Speaker 1: think they can get it back on track. Now this
Speaker 1: year might be lost for them, but in the future
Speaker 1: moving forward, that's how I think they should do it.
Speaker 1: Because you've already paid Kyler so much money. He is
Speaker 1: your guy. There is no well, it's his fault. It's
Speaker 1: got to be everybody in this thing. And Kyler can
Speaker 1: really help himself by just communicating with his teammates a
Speaker 1: little bit better to let them know what he's expecting. Robert,
Speaker 1: I do think it was good for him to be
Speaker 1: in a position where for a couple of weeks he
Speaker 1: could just watch Colt run the offense. He was more
Speaker 1: decisive this pass game, no question, it was getting out
Speaker 1: of his hand Quicker. I think it was much easier
Speaker 1: too for Cliff and the stat to sell Kyler on
Speaker 1: that by saying, hey, you saw it the last two games,
Speaker 1: Colts getting rid of it quickly putting guys in position
Speaker 1: to succeed getting into his playmakers. You mentioned you had
Speaker 1: a chance to talk to him for ten minutes in Mexico.
Speaker 1: Did you offer any advice to him. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: we kind of joked a little bit because I make
Speaker 1: some short jokes about Kyler on Twitter every now and then,
Speaker 1: and you know, we're a Heisman brother, so it's like
Speaker 1: it's all funny games. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: for him, the conversation then went to not trying to
Speaker 1: do too much. There's a lot of things like, Kyler's
Speaker 1: been a winner his entire life, right whether high school.
Speaker 1: I believe he went undefeated. You know, he listed that
Speaker 1: at his press conference when they had the whole homework
Speaker 1: clause press conference earlier in the year. But he's been
Speaker 1: a winner his whole life. And you get this large
Speaker 1: amount of money. With that money comes to expectations, and
Speaker 1: sometimes you can try to do too much. So yes,
Speaker 1: does it help to kind of sit out while you're
Speaker 1: a little banged up and watch the backup going there
Speaker 1: and just operate the office. Yes, But here is what
Speaker 1: I took from that was, Colt McCoy is Colt McCoy.
Speaker 1: If he goes out there, gets the ball out of
Speaker 1: his hands and works the offense, he can only take
Speaker 1: you so far. But if Kyler Murray does the same
Speaker 1: thing and gives you a couple of those, just wow,
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray plays every now and then they're gonna be
Speaker 1: a lot better football team with Kyler Murray at the helm.
Speaker 1: And that's kind of all we talked about. Just you know,
Speaker 1: don't let the outside perception affect what you do on
Speaker 1: the inside. Don't try to convince everyone in the building
Speaker 1: that you're not this guy that they're telling you that
Speaker 1: you are on the outside. Go about your business, be
Speaker 1: a good teammate, work hard, run the offense, and get
Speaker 1: the ball to your playmakers. And like I said, I
Speaker 1: think he did a better job of that against the Chargers.
Speaker 1: Even though they didn't get the victory, they looked much
Speaker 1: better than they have all year. You know, it's amazing
Speaker 1: the run that Oklahoma had a quarterbacks that either won
Speaker 1: the Heisman or and Jalan Hurts he's being the runner up.
Speaker 1: Oklahoma quarterback's not gonna win the Heisman this year. But
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams was in Oklahoma. And I don't know if
Speaker 1: you agree with me. I don't have a vote, but
Speaker 1: if I did, it'd be Caleb Williams from USC. Obviously
Speaker 1: you're a Heisman winner, you have a vote. What do
Speaker 1: you think? Yeah, I'll tell you this, Dave. I don't
Speaker 1: vote until after the championship games because I know, like
Speaker 1: with the committee, the playoff committee, sometimes they don't weigh
Speaker 1: the championship games as much. But going into Championship weekend,
Speaker 1: it's between Caleb Williams and Max Dugan. That's it. Unless
Speaker 1: Blake Korn runs for four hundred yards and if he's
Speaker 1: gonna play, you know, with Michigan, it's between those two guys.
Speaker 1: And you have the story of Caleb Williams, which I
Speaker 1: absolutely love and my main man, Rehees Davis kind of
Speaker 1: he got on me a little bit earlier in the
Speaker 1: in the in the off season because I was saying, USC, man,
Speaker 1: they're going to coasketball playoff and He's like, nah, I'll
Speaker 1: pump the brakes on USC. They're not gonna do it.
Speaker 1: And look at what these transfers did. I mean, they
Speaker 1: had like thirty seven thirty eight transfers come in there,
Speaker 1: and Caleb Williams was able to steer the ship. And
Speaker 1: late in the year you started to see him make
Speaker 1: those Caleb william plays that we got so accustomed to
Speaker 1: see in last year at Oklahoma. So for him, if
Speaker 1: they win, I think he wins the Heisman he and
Speaker 1: for them to win, he has to play well. The
Speaker 1: only guy that could kind of knock him off would
Speaker 1: be Duggan, and Duggan's gonna have to go out there
Speaker 1: and throw for three fifty, run for a hundred. I
Speaker 1: think everybody knows that at this point. But Caleb Williams
Speaker 1: he can write, you know, Heisman winner on his fingers
Speaker 1: if he wants to on his fingernails. You know, he
Speaker 1: paints his figuernails every game with some stuff on there.
Speaker 1: He's got the he doesn't have a lock on it,
Speaker 1: but it's ninety five percent it's gonna be him winning
Speaker 1: the Heisman. It's amazing too to think about. You know,
Speaker 1: this time last year, he was a relatively new starter
Speaker 1: at Oklahoma, came in against Texas, lights it up after
Speaker 1: Spencer Rattler gets benched. Follows Lincoln Riley to USC, I
Speaker 1: wish with you. I picked you know, I work with
Speaker 1: Dushtavorchek and Tom Luganville's our field analysts. I was the
Speaker 1: only one of the three to pick that seat to
Speaker 1: go to the college football playoffs. So there's a big
Speaker 1: part of me that's rooting for the Trojans to sweek
Speaker 1: against Utah, No doubt not. People don't like some coaches
Speaker 1: are gonna hate that though, you know that, Dave just
Speaker 1: talking to coaches throughout the college football season. Some have
Speaker 1: bought into the transfer portals, some haven't. What Lincoln Riley
Speaker 1: has done at USC, even if they don't make the
Speaker 1: playoff is going to be transformational for all of college
Speaker 1: football because now you know, if you get the right
Speaker 1: guy at head coach and quarterback, you can bring in
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of mercenaries and get them to play
Speaker 1: well together. And I mean, what are they? I think
Speaker 1: are they ten and one right now? That's impressive because
Speaker 1: everything about college football has been build the culture, Build
Speaker 1: the culture, build the culture. Well, now it seems like
Speaker 1: the culture can be built quickly as long as you
Speaker 1: have the right guy at quarterback, and USC definitely has that.
Speaker 1: Robert at the time that you went to the playoffs
Speaker 1: with Washington in your first year and set the world
Speaker 1: on fire in the NFL, Matt Ryan had made the
Speaker 1: playoffs as a rookie a few years prior to that,
Speaker 1: because I remember they played the Cardinals in the opening
Speaker 1: round of the playoffs. But it was very rare at
Speaker 1: that time for a rookie to have the success that
Speaker 1: you did and Matt Ryan did. As you look at
Speaker 1: the college guys, whether it's Caleb Williams or Bryce Young
Speaker 1: in Alabama or maybe Drake May at North Carolina, do
Speaker 1: you see the next great NFL quarterback in college or
Speaker 1: somebody that you think they kind of have success early
Speaker 1: on an impact the franchise of the way you did
Speaker 1: in Washington that first year. Cool Man, Yeah, I really
Speaker 1: do I see that. I think Caleb Williams, Bryce Young,
Speaker 1: c J. Stroud, I think all those guys have what
Speaker 1: it takes to be successful immediately. You know, people love
Speaker 1: will Levis. Hennon Hooker is about sixty five years old,
Speaker 1: but he's probably gonna be out all up next year
Speaker 1: because of that knee injury. But he's also a guy
Speaker 1: that they exude these skills that are successful right now
Speaker 1: in the league the way it is Kyler Murray, Jalen Hursts,
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes. All these guys can
Speaker 1: run the ball and throw the football. So day my
Speaker 1: take on can these guys have success earlier is yeah,
Speaker 1: they definitely can. But what if they don't, What if
Speaker 1: they struggle? As an organization, you have to have the
Speaker 1: organizational fortitude to let these guys struggle. Peyton Manning struggled
Speaker 1: as a rookie. You gotta let them go through some
Speaker 1: hard time so they can figure out who they are,
Speaker 1: what they can do at this level of play without
Speaker 1: the threat of we're gonna sit them down because we
Speaker 1: need to win. Right now, you think they're not trying
Speaker 1: to win, they are. They're trying to win. But even
Speaker 1: if they struggle a little bit, let them go through that.
Speaker 1: Like the situation with the Jets and Zach Wilson, it's
Speaker 1: just a bad situation for Zach Wilson. Now everybody's gravitating
Speaker 1: towards Mike White. They sit him down. Yes, he made
Speaker 1: a mistake, had a terrible accountability press conference there, But
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, as the Jets now
Speaker 1: go back to Zach Wilson and barring an injury and
Speaker 1: him actually being able to win, back over the team.
Speaker 1: So I think it's own organizations to let these young
Speaker 1: quarterbacks be young quarterbacks. Don't expect them to come in
Speaker 1: and turn you from I believe Washington was four and
Speaker 1: twelve the year before and then we went ten and six.
Speaker 1: That's just not Nobody really does that. And I was
Speaker 1: blessed enough to have great teammates and be able to
Speaker 1: pull that off as a rookie. But then you saw
Speaker 1: the next year when I came back from my injury,
Speaker 1: just how short changed we were as a roster. It
Speaker 1: was almost identical roster as the year we went ten
Speaker 1: and six. I just wasn't able to be Superman in
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen because of my knee injury and the recovery
Speaker 1: from it. I wasn't quite there yet. These teams have
Speaker 1: to understand that with these young guys, let them be young,
Speaker 1: let them learn from their mistakes, and then they'll sink
Speaker 1: or swim. But that's not going to be found out
Speaker 1: for three four years down the line. You talked about
Speaker 1: that injury that you suffered, which was in the postseason.
Speaker 1: You had multiple injuries, which you know, if they didn't happen,
Speaker 1: you're probably still playing. I know you can still run
Speaker 1: because I saw you out run the Eagle in an
Speaker 1: Auburn game. Are you still could you play? Do you
Speaker 1: still want to play or you're done? Yeah, Dave, I've
Speaker 1: gotten this question a bunch, and it's like almost every
Speaker 1: time they asked me, it's like starts a new news
Speaker 1: cycle about do I want to play or not? Sorry? Man, Sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm really enjoying what I'm doing right now with the ESPN.
Speaker 1: Really blessed to work with the people that I have
Speaker 1: been able to work with, talk with guys like you
Speaker 1: who are legends in this game. If a team called
Speaker 1: me tomorrow and said, Robert, can you come be our
Speaker 1: starting quarterback? I'll be there. I stay prepared. I can
Speaker 1: still run, can still throw. Coach text me the other
Speaker 1: day said, hey, can you take a hit? Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I can take a hit. But they can't hit where
Speaker 1: they can't catch. So I'm a young thirty I haven't
Speaker 1: played a ton of football over the last five six years,
Speaker 1: but I still have a desire to be around the game,
Speaker 1: a desire to play the game. So if I got
Speaker 1: the call, yes am I chasing that call? I'm not, man,
Speaker 1: I'm really enjoying what I'm doing, having found my family,
Speaker 1: being able to show people more sides of myself that
Speaker 1: you can't show when you're the franchise quarterback or a
Speaker 1: quarterback on a team like I was in Baltimore, where
Speaker 1: you're the backup. You've got to be team, team, team,
Speaker 1: And now with the TV stuff, your personality gets to
Speaker 1: shine through. So I'm excited about that. I'm excited about
Speaker 1: the future with TV. And as you know, Dave, every
Speaker 1: player wants to have a Hall of Fame career. I
Speaker 1: know I haven't had that. I haven't had an opportunity
Speaker 1: to go out there and make that happen, whether it
Speaker 1: be injuries or situations or play. But as a broadcaster,
Speaker 1: that's the goal. Get in the Hall of Fame as
Speaker 1: a broadcaster, be a great storyteller, tell these guys stories
Speaker 1: the right way. I'm enjoying that. But yes, who's your
Speaker 1: favorite team, Davis? The Cardinals? Well it better I've done
Speaker 1: their games for twenty one years, so it better be
Speaker 1: the Cardinals. Sorrow and said, hey, Kyler Pulahammy, we need you.
Speaker 1: I'd be there, But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: I'm enjoying what I'm doing. Last question, and that's another
Speaker 1: one that I'm sure you've been asked a lot since
Speaker 1: you were pretty vocal on social media about being interested
Speaker 1: in being a part of ownership with the Washington Commanders.
Speaker 1: Is that's something that you're still interested in and looking into. Yes,
Speaker 1: I just shifted that interest from social media to the
Speaker 1: private conversations that they have to be in. So when
Speaker 1: I put that tweet out at first, I did not
Speaker 1: expect the response that it got. You know, wanting to
Speaker 1: be a part of minority ownership and also bringing ten
Speaker 1: fans along for the ride and they don't have to
Speaker 1: pay for anything. Well, The amount of cause I got
Speaker 1: in the next four hours after that tweet went out
Speaker 1: was unbelievable. There's just a lot of interest in people
Speaker 1: wanting to own football teams. They wanted to be minority
Speaker 1: owners and a team like the Washington Commanders, So that
Speaker 1: is happening. Those conversations are still going on. I did
Speaker 1: put out there that I had four hundred million already committed.
Speaker 1: That is not a lie. That is true. It's grown
Speaker 1: since then. But at the end of the day, you
Speaker 1: got to find the right people to partner with, and
Speaker 1: that's the process I'm going through right now. On that
Speaker 1: side of it, it would be really cool to have
Speaker 1: a full circle moment being a player for the Commanders
Speaker 1: to now come back and be a minority owner and
Speaker 1: try to help the team and the city get the
Speaker 1: winner that it deserves. That would be really awesome. But
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, Dan Sneibers got to
Speaker 1: decide if he's gonna sell a team or not. I
Speaker 1: don't have any control over that. Well, listen, man, it's
Speaker 1: been eleven years since we last talk, but I'm grateful
Speaker 1: for you doing this. You do such a great job
Speaker 1: on both college football, the games and the studio stuff
Speaker 1: on Monday Night NFL. I just love the fact that
Speaker 1: you're yourself, You're entertaining, your fun and it keeps me watching.
Speaker 1: So keep it up. Appreciate you, Dave, and you never know, man,
Speaker 1: you never know what could happen. We could do some
Speaker 1: more of these to be working together in the future.
Speaker 1: I'm really honored to be on here with you. Man. Well,
Speaker 1: if you haven't had an opportunity to listen slash watch
Speaker 1: Robert on college football games on Saturday during the week
Speaker 1: with studio for NFL and ESPN, or on Monday Night Countdown,
Speaker 1: you certainly can see why he's a rising star in
Speaker 1: this business. Very engaging, great personality and obviously very dialed
Speaker 1: in on both college football and the NFL. He mentioned
Speaker 1: he had a chance to talk one on one with
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, sharing some of those comments that he had
Speaker 1: for Kyler, and also gave his thoughts on how Kay
Speaker 1: one is playing here in twenty twenty two. Also thought
Speaker 1: it was really interesting his thoughts on being a potential
Speaker 1: owner in the NFL and that he wants to be
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame broadcaster when he's done with his career.
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