1 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,199 Speaker 1: Everybody, and welcome to another edition of the Dave Pash Podcast. 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 1: I'm your host Arizona Cardinals at ESPN, played by play 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: announcer Dave Patch. My guest this week is Robert Griffin, 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: the third Heisman Trophy winner at Baylor, Pro Bowl quarterback 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: with Washington and current broadcaster at ESPN. He does college 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: football games on Saturday, does NFL worked during the weekend 7 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: studio as well as Monday night count Out. We're gonna 8 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: talk with Robert about who his Heisman pick is for 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: this season and also former Heisman Trophy winner Kyler Murray winner, 10 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: his thoughts on Kyler and how he's performing with the 11 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. Will also discuss Robert's current career as a 12 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 1: television broadcaster and what the future holds for RG three 13 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: in this business, and whether he still has it his 14 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: hour to play football in the NFL. If a team 15 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: called me tomorrow and said, Robert Kenyan tom b r 16 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: starting quarterback, I'll be there. I stay prepared. I can 17 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: still run, can still throw. 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Time now for our conversation 32 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: with Robert Griffinth, a third on this week's edition of 33 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: the Day Patch podcast. So, Robert, I've been at ESPN 34 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: and doing the Cardinals for two decades, and I've done 35 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: so many interviews over the years with players and coaches 36 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: across four different sports college football, NFL, NBA, college basketball, 37 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: and there's about probably a dozen that really stand out that, 38 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: like I remember exactly where I was with whom and 39 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: how it went, and you're one of those. It was 40 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: the Alamo Bowl in two thousand and eleven, after you'd 41 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: won the Heisman Trophy. I'm sitting there with Chris Spielman 42 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: and Quint Kesnick, who is your current sideline reporter, and 43 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: first of all, you guys scored sixty seven points. It 44 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: was I was scoring bowl game ever. But the interview 45 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: is what stood out, Man, because you were just so impressive. 46 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised at all that you've gone into this 47 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: business and have succeeded very early on in your career. 48 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: Oh man, I appreciate that, David. You haven't. You have 49 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: no idea how many times me and quite have talked 50 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 1: about that Alimo Bowl. Just coming full circle, right, He 51 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: was interviewing me throughout the week, and then now we're 52 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: working together. So it's been a lot of fun. But 53 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: my favorite part about that game was when we were 54 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 1: down by I believe it was seventeen, like late in 55 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: the third. He came back by running the football consistently, 56 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: just handed it off the Terence Ganaway and I had 57 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: to do what I had to do on a couple 58 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: of blocks, just getting out in the open field and 59 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: blocking from my guys because Washington was playing a lot 60 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: of that two shelf defense that you've seen in the 61 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: NFL now, or they're just trying to make you be patient, 62 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: and that was one of the I think it lasted 63 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: as one of the highest scoring Bowl games of all 64 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: time for a while as a really fun game. Yeah, 65 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: it's crazy that you actually had remember it in that 66 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: great a detail considering all the great games you played 67 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: and leading up to that to win the Haizard and 68 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: then obviously the next year going to the playoffs with Washington. 69 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: When did you start thinking about getting into this business, 70 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: because obviously you've always been an incredible speaker, very smart guy. 71 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: What is this something you thought about when you were 72 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: in college? So maybe when you're done in the NFL 73 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: you do TV or no, No, Dave. To be honest 74 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: with you, this was never on my radar. Whether I 75 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: played twenty years or five years, It wasn't something that 76 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: I ever thought this was going to be an avenue 77 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: for me. But I was. I say this with all 78 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: good intentions. I was bothered for three years by my 79 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: current agent, Mark Leppselter out of New York, and he 80 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: just saw something in me, felt like I could do 81 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: this and do it at a at a really high 82 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: level for a long time, and after three years, I 83 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: finally gave in. I did an audition with Fox. ESPN 84 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: heard about the audition, I did audition with ESPN, and 85 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: the rest is history. So I just think for me, 86 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 1: as you know this, you gotta be yourself. Whenever you 87 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: step foot on screen or in a TV booth, you 88 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: gotta be yourself because that's the easiest thing to replicate. 89 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: So over the last year and a half, I've been 90 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: able to do that, have fun, do it in a 91 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: unique way that's unique to myself. And I'm beyond blessed 92 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: to work with Mark Jones and Kim Belton and Quinn 93 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: Kessnick on that crew because we make it fun and 94 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: then you kind of see that in the broadcast. Yeah, 95 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: let me go go back to Kim Belton. Not many 96 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: people realize that, you know, we all have when we 97 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: call a game, we have a producer in our ear. 98 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: That producer is basically the boss of the broadcast. And 99 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 1: you know it's rare that the producer somebody that was 100 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: an elite athlete. And Kim Belton was a first round 101 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: draft pick of the Phoenix Suns. He's one of the 102 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: all time leading scorers in Stanford basketball history. He was 103 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: my first college football producer at ESPN back in two 104 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: thousand and four. And it has it been helpful for 105 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 1: you to have somebody in that seat that knows what 106 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: it's like to be an elite athlete like yourself. Yeah, 107 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: David does. And Kim has been in the business forty 108 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: one years. Like he's been doing it doing it for 109 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: a long time. My agent told me when I was 110 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: partnered with Kim that this is the best possible scenario. 111 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: He does an amazing job of helping guys transition from 112 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: going on the field into the broadcast booth. He looked 113 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: at him as a teacher. And as I've gone on 114 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: to work with other producers, Kim still my game producer 115 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: for a college ball but as I've worked with other 116 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: producers and other studio shows or other aspects, there's a 117 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: there's a defining quality about Kim, And you know this, 118 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 1: he is like the boss, but he just commands a 119 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: certain level of respect that I enjoy the conversation with 120 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 1: Kim throughout the game when we're talking and where I 121 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 1: see something and he sees it, and we see the 122 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: game eerily similar. For a basketball guy to really see 123 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: football the way that he does is extremely impressive, and 124 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: I enjoy that part of it. So Kim has been incredible. 125 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: I think he's the best in the business. Obviously, I 126 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: haven't worked with with anybody else on an extended basis, 127 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: but that crew has been really special over the last 128 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: year and a half. You'll have to ask him. I 129 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: can't say who it was, but you'll have to ask 130 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: him about the time he and I were working together 131 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: and I had to break up a fight in the booth. 132 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: So next time you see Kim, say hey, I was 133 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: just I was doing a podcast with Dave and he 134 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: wanted He asked me to have you tell him the 135 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: story of having to break up a fight in the 136 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: booth in Hawaii. No less, wait Hawaii. You know draft 137 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: pick in the NBA. This is a big guy. You 138 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: don't want to mess with him. Well no, well it 139 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: actually it wasn't. The fight wasn't with him. I was 140 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: working with two analysts at the time and the two 141 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: of them were about to throw it down, and so 142 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: I had to I had to intervene. But yeah, there 143 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: was a time too. Again, I can't remember the analysts. 144 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: I remember the analysts name, but I can't say it. 145 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: But you have to ask him about the time that 146 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: he showed up in the booth because his analyst would 147 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: not do what he asked him to do. So Kim 148 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: left the truck out on the press box elevator, stood 149 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: outside the press box and told the guy, are you 150 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: gonna do it? Now? And you have to understand it. 151 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: Kim Melton at six eight, two hundred and forty pounds 152 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: comes to your broadcast boot and says, are you gonna 153 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: do it? You're gonna do it or you're gonna get 154 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: beat down? Oh, behind the scenes of broadcast TV, because 155 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: I've heard some stories back that would really put people 156 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: out there. That's crazy. I know people think like there 157 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: are no egos in this business. There's probably more in 158 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: this business than maybe even on the football field. Obviously, 159 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: you do a lot of NFL stuff. You're doing Monday 160 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: and I countdown. You're really busy right now. You enjoy 161 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: the studio as much as the games. How would you 162 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: kind of how would you measure your enjoyment in terms 163 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: of games versus being in studio or on site. I 164 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: guess it's not really studio you're on site, but it's 165 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: a studio show. Yeah, it's still a studio show. They 166 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: were Monday and I countdown, and you know, I was 167 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: blessed enough to do college game date three or four 168 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 1: times last year as well. I look at this as 169 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: like a learning experience for me. Anybody that gets into 170 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: like a new field kind of approach it like you 171 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: would if you went to law school, they say, they say, 172 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: when you go to law school, don't try to pick 173 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: what you're gonna do right away. Kind of get a 174 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: glimpse of everything and what's out there, and then whatever 175 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: you gravitate towards that's what you can Then all right, 176 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: this is what I'm going to do for the long 177 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: term future. So for me, I enjoy both studio and 178 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: the game games. It's extremely fun doing NFL and also 179 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: being able to do college has been really fun. And 180 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: as you know, in this business day, the more you 181 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: can do, the more you can do, the more versatility 182 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: you can have, the more opportunities that come your way. 183 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 1: And I've just been blessed up at ESPN has you know, 184 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: put me in spots that have allowed me to showcase 185 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: that and put me with the right teams to you know, 186 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: really fully maximize my own ability and add to the broadcast, 187 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: whatever broadcast it may be, whether it's studio or on 188 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: the game. So I enjoyed both. I'm not going to 189 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: try to close any doors for myself. But of course, 190 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: everybody wants to wants to call Monday Night football, everybody 191 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: wants to be in a number one game booth. We're 192 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: all trying to go out there and be the next 193 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: John Madden and have fun calling the game and bring 194 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: something new to it. So I'm no different in that. 195 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, I'm here to entertain, 196 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 1: add to the games, and be a storyteller. Well you 197 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 1: definitely you've done all those things. You certainly entertain. I 198 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: loved reading the article a Sportilla Street it did on 199 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: you calling you the next breakout start ESPN and highlighting 200 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: some of your commentary. Well not just a commentary like 201 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: you're going in the tunnel at Michigan UM, but also 202 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 1: some of the comments that you'll make, like I laughed 203 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: out loud at the Black Friday comment man at the 204 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: top of the show last week, because we are on 205 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: right after you guys, and I saw I saw it. 206 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if that was okay or not, man, 207 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: but I was die laughing. It's uh, you know some 208 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 1: of that stuff, like the Black Friday comment. You know, 209 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: I had said something before we went on air to 210 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: Kim and he said, yeah, you're not saying that. So 211 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: like the crew that I'm with and the guys that 212 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 1: I work with, we have such a great relationship that 213 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: we know what to say, what not to say. We 214 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: know how to approach the line but not cross the line. 215 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: For instance, with Alex Orgy, the quarterback from Michigan early 216 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: in the year, like I wouldn't ever say there's an 217 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: orgy in the end zone if the guy's last name 218 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: was an Orgy, right, there's like a there's a certain 219 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: protective barrier there. It's really thin. And in the middle 220 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: of the year I kind of learned like, all right, 221 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: let's make sure that's not the main thing. And over 222 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: the last part of the year, I haven't had any 223 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: of those types of things pop up because I wanted 224 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: to make sure people understood like, we're here to entertain, 225 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 1: but we're here to entertain for everybody, and that's why 226 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: we have fun. The Black Friday comment, Listen, it's black 227 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 1: Black Friday. You got a black play by play guy 228 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: and Mark Jones, you got a black analyst. It was funny. 229 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: It was funny, it was light. Nobody was really offended 230 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: by it. People laughed, like you said, you laughed out loud. 231 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: And we're here to provide entertainment. No, I'm not a comedian. 232 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: And that's why when we break the game down and 233 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: we teach, we draw you in with all those different aspects. 234 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: And that's why, you know, I feel like we want 235 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: to add to the broadcast. And don't be afraid to 236 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: be yourself. If you're a corny dad joke type of guy, 237 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: tell a couple of dad jokes, man, there's nothing wrong 238 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 1: with that. Well, you certainly break it down too. And 239 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: I want to talk a little bit about I want 240 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 1: to talk about the Heisman race, but I also want 241 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: to talk about the quarterback for the Cardinals, because there's 242 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 1: a tight fraternity amongst the Heisman winners and you obviously 243 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: being won and Kyler six or seven years after you 244 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: won it, won his Heisman Trophy in the year four 245 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: with the Cardinals. When you watch Kyler and you watch 246 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: the Cardinals, I know you're doing the best you can 247 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: with all the stuff you have going on to pay 248 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: as close attention as you can. Well, what stands out 249 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: to you about Kyler as an NFL quarterback? Yeah, I 250 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 1: mean I think this year, more than anything did, Kyler 251 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: seems to be on a different sheet of music than 252 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: the rest of the offense. Now, in their last game, 253 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: I thought it was cleaned up a little bit. You know, 254 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: maybe the players and the coaches got to see Cole 255 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: McCoy go out there and struggle a little bit, and 256 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: maybe that kind of eased some of the tensions in 257 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: the building with Kyla coming back. But I said this 258 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 1: on Monday, and I count in and I truly believe this. 259 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 1: Kyler is a very smart player. When we were in 260 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: Mexico and he didn't play, I got to talk to 261 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: him for about ten minutes on the field. He understands 262 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: like the perception that's out there about him, wants to 263 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 1: clean that up. And I know he didn't help himself 264 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: with the comment he made in the post game saying 265 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: that schematically they were screwed because it just brings more 266 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: turbulence to their room, whether it's the coaches or the 267 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: players or whatever. But he really needs to be the 268 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: one install in the offense. This is a situation in 269 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: Arizona eerily similar to Denver, where Russell Wilson's going to 270 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: be the quarterback. You have to find a way to 271 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: get the most out of him because you guaranteed him 272 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: so much money. No one's gonna trade for Russell Wilson 273 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: at this point. Kyler Murray, on the other hand, it's 274 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: not that no one will trade for him. It's just 275 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: that this was a hand picked ideal situation for him 276 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: with the coach that recruited him out of college, I mean, 277 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: out of high school to go to Texas A and 278 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: M and clip Thingsbury. So if Kyler's seeing things differently 279 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 1: than the rest of the offense, make him do the installs, 280 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: because then the receivers will know, all right, versus dis coverage, 281 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: this is what Kyler's thinking as opposed to versus dis coverage. 282 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: This is what Cliff Kingsbury is thinking. This is what 283 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:17,839 Speaker 1: my receiver coach is thinking, this is what the running 284 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: back coach is thinking. And if they do that, I 285 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: think they can get it back on track. Now this 286 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: year might be lost for them, but in the future 287 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: moving forward, that's how I think they should do it. 288 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: Because you've already paid Kyler so much money. He is 289 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: your guy. There is no well, it's his fault. It's 290 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: got to be everybody in this thing. And Kyler can 291 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: really help himself by just communicating with his teammates a 292 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: little bit better to let them know what he's expecting. Robert, 293 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: I do think it was good for him to be 294 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: in a position where for a couple of weeks he 295 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: could just watch Colt run the offense. He was more 296 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: decisive this pass game, no question, it was getting out 297 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: of his hand Quicker. I think it was much easier 298 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: too for Cliff and the stat to sell Kyler on 299 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: that by saying, hey, you saw it the last two games, 300 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: Colts getting rid of it quickly putting guys in position 301 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: to succeed getting into his playmakers. You mentioned you had 302 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: a chance to talk to him for ten minutes in Mexico. 303 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: Did you offer any advice to him. Yeah, you know, 304 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: we kind of joked a little bit because I make 305 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: some short jokes about Kyler on Twitter every now and then, 306 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: and you know, we're a Heisman brother, so it's like 307 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: it's all funny games. But at the end of the day, 308 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: for him, the conversation then went to not trying to 309 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: do too much. There's a lot of things like, Kyler's 310 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: been a winner his entire life, right whether high school. 311 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: I believe he went undefeated. You know, he listed that 312 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: at his press conference when they had the whole homework 313 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: clause press conference earlier in the year. But he's been 314 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: a winner his whole life. And you get this large 315 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: amount of money. With that money comes to expectations, and 316 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: sometimes you can try to do too much. So yes, 317 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: does it help to kind of sit out while you're 318 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: a little banged up and watch the backup going there 319 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: and just operate the office. Yes, But here is what 320 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: I took from that was, Colt McCoy is Colt McCoy. 321 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: If he goes out there, gets the ball out of 322 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: his hands and works the offense, he can only take 323 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: you so far. But if Kyler Murray does the same 324 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: thing and gives you a couple of those, just wow, 325 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray plays every now and then they're gonna be 326 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: a lot better football team with Kyler Murray at the helm. 327 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: And that's kind of all we talked about. Just you know, 328 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: don't let the outside perception affect what you do on 329 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: the inside. Don't try to convince everyone in the building 330 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: that you're not this guy that they're telling you that 331 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: you are on the outside. Go about your business, be 332 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: a good teammate, work hard, run the offense, and get 333 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: the ball to your playmakers. And like I said, I 334 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: think he did a better job of that against the Chargers. 335 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: Even though they didn't get the victory, they looked much 336 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: better than they have all year. You know, it's amazing 337 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: the run that Oklahoma had a quarterbacks that either won 338 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: the Heisman or and Jalan Hurts he's being the runner up. 339 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: Oklahoma quarterback's not gonna win the Heisman this year. But 340 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams was in Oklahoma. And I don't know if 341 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: you agree with me. I don't have a vote, but 342 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 1: if I did, it'd be Caleb Williams from USC. Obviously 343 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 1: you're a Heisman winner, you have a vote. What do 344 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: you think? Yeah, I'll tell you this, Dave. I don't 345 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: vote until after the championship games because I know, like 346 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: with the committee, the playoff committee, sometimes they don't weigh 347 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: the championship games as much. But going into Championship weekend, 348 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 1: it's between Caleb Williams and Max Dugan. That's it. Unless 349 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: Blake Korn runs for four hundred yards and if he's 350 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: gonna play, you know, with Michigan, it's between those two guys. 351 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 1: And you have the story of Caleb Williams, which I 352 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: absolutely love and my main man, Rehees Davis kind of 353 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: he got on me a little bit earlier in the 354 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 1: in the in the off season because I was saying, USC, man, 355 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: they're going to coasketball playoff and He's like, nah, I'll 356 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: pump the brakes on USC. They're not gonna do it. 357 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 1: And look at what these transfers did. I mean, they 358 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: had like thirty seven thirty eight transfers come in there, 359 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: and Caleb Williams was able to steer the ship. And 360 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: late in the year you started to see him make 361 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 1: those Caleb william plays that we got so accustomed to 362 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: see in last year at Oklahoma. So for him, if 363 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,479 Speaker 1: they win, I think he wins the Heisman he and 364 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: for them to win, he has to play well. The 365 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: only guy that could kind of knock him off would 366 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: be Duggan, and Duggan's gonna have to go out there 367 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: and throw for three fifty, run for a hundred. I 368 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 1: think everybody knows that at this point. But Caleb Williams 369 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: he can write, you know, Heisman winner on his fingers 370 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: if he wants to on his fingernails. You know, he 371 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: paints his figuernails every game with some stuff on there. 372 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: He's got the he doesn't have a lock on it, 373 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 1: but it's ninety five percent it's gonna be him winning 374 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: the Heisman. It's amazing too to think about. You know, 375 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 1: this time last year, he was a relatively new starter 376 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: at Oklahoma, came in against Texas, lights it up after 377 00:18:55,880 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 1: Spencer Rattler gets benched. Follows Lincoln Riley to USC, I 378 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: wish with you. I picked you know, I work with 379 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: Dushtavorchek and Tom Luganville's our field analysts. I was the 380 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 1: only one of the three to pick that seat to 381 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: go to the college football playoffs. So there's a big 382 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: part of me that's rooting for the Trojans to sweek 383 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: against Utah, No doubt not. People don't like some coaches 384 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: are gonna hate that though, you know that, Dave just 385 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: talking to coaches throughout the college football season. Some have 386 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: bought into the transfer portals, some haven't. What Lincoln Riley 387 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: has done at USC, even if they don't make the 388 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: playoff is going to be transformational for all of college 389 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 1: football because now you know, if you get the right 390 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: guy at head coach and quarterback, you can bring in 391 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of mercenaries and get them to play 392 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: well together. And I mean, what are they? I think 393 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: are they ten and one right now? That's impressive because 394 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: everything about college football has been build the culture, Build 395 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 1: the culture, build the culture. Well, now it seems like 396 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: the culture can be built quickly as long as you 397 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 1: have the right guy at quarterback, and USC definitely has that. 398 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: Robert at the time that you went to the playoffs 399 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: with Washington in your first year and set the world 400 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: on fire in the NFL, Matt Ryan had made the 401 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: playoffs as a rookie a few years prior to that, 402 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: because I remember they played the Cardinals in the opening 403 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: round of the playoffs. But it was very rare at 404 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: that time for a rookie to have the success that 405 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: you did and Matt Ryan did. As you look at 406 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: the college guys, whether it's Caleb Williams or Bryce Young 407 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: in Alabama or maybe Drake May at North Carolina, do 408 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: you see the next great NFL quarterback in college or 409 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: somebody that you think they kind of have success early 410 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 1: on an impact the franchise of the way you did 411 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: in Washington that first year. Cool Man, Yeah, I really 412 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 1: do I see that. I think Caleb Williams, Bryce Young, 413 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: c J. Stroud, I think all those guys have what 414 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 1: it takes to be successful immediately. You know, people love 415 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: will Levis. Hennon Hooker is about sixty five years old, 416 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: but he's probably gonna be out all up next year 417 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: because of that knee injury. But he's also a guy 418 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: that they exude these skills that are successful right now 419 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 1: in the league the way it is Kyler Murray, Jalen Hursts, 420 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes. All these guys can 421 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: run the ball and throw the football. So day my 422 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: take on can these guys have success earlier is yeah, 423 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 1: they definitely can. But what if they don't, What if 424 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: they struggle? As an organization, you have to have the 425 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: organizational fortitude to let these guys struggle. Peyton Manning struggled 426 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: as a rookie. You gotta let them go through some 427 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 1: hard time so they can figure out who they are, 428 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: what they can do at this level of play without 429 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: the threat of we're gonna sit them down because we 430 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 1: need to win. Right now, you think they're not trying 431 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: to win, they are. They're trying to win. But even 432 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: if they struggle a little bit, let them go through that. 433 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: Like the situation with the Jets and Zach Wilson, it's 434 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 1: just a bad situation for Zach Wilson. Now everybody's gravitating 435 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: towards Mike White. They sit him down. Yes, he made 436 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 1: a mistake, had a terrible accountability press conference there, But 437 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, as the Jets now 438 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: go back to Zach Wilson and barring an injury and 439 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: him actually being able to win, back over the team. 440 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: So I think it's own organizations to let these young 441 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,719 Speaker 1: quarterbacks be young quarterbacks. Don't expect them to come in 442 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: and turn you from I believe Washington was four and 443 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: twelve the year before and then we went ten and six. 444 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 1: That's just not Nobody really does that. And I was 445 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: blessed enough to have great teammates and be able to 446 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: pull that off as a rookie. But then you saw 447 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 1: the next year when I came back from my injury, 448 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: just how short changed we were as a roster. It 449 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 1: was almost identical roster as the year we went ten 450 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: and six. I just wasn't able to be Superman in 451 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: twenty thirteen because of my knee injury and the recovery 452 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 1: from it. I wasn't quite there yet. These teams have 453 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: to understand that with these young guys, let them be young, 454 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 1: let them learn from their mistakes, and then they'll sink 455 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 1: or swim. But that's not going to be found out 456 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: for three four years down the line. You talked about 457 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 1: that injury that you suffered, which was in the postseason. 458 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 1: You had multiple injuries, which you know, if they didn't happen, 459 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: you're probably still playing. I know you can still run 460 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: because I saw you out run the Eagle in an 461 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:18,479 Speaker 1: Auburn game. Are you still could you play? Do you 462 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: still want to play or you're done? Yeah, Dave, I've 463 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: gotten this question a bunch, and it's like almost every 464 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: time they asked me, it's like starts a new news 465 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: cycle about do I want to play or not? Sorry? Man, Sorry, 466 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: I'm really enjoying what I'm doing right now with the ESPN. 467 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: Really blessed to work with the people that I have 468 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 1: been able to work with, talk with guys like you 469 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: who are legends in this game. If a team called 470 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: me tomorrow and said, Robert, can you come be our 471 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: starting quarterback? I'll be there. I stay prepared. I can 472 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: still run, can still throw. Coach text me the other 473 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: day said, hey, can you take a hit? Like, yeah, 474 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: I can take a hit. But they can't hit where 475 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: they can't catch. So I'm a young thirty I haven't 476 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 1: played a ton of football over the last five six years, 477 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: but I still have a desire to be around the game, 478 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 1: a desire to play the game. So if I got 479 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 1: the call, yes am I chasing that call? I'm not, man, 480 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: I'm really enjoying what I'm doing, having found my family, 481 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: being able to show people more sides of myself that 482 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 1: you can't show when you're the franchise quarterback or a 483 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 1: quarterback on a team like I was in Baltimore, where 484 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: you're the backup. You've got to be team, team, team, 485 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 1: And now with the TV stuff, your personality gets to 486 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 1: shine through. So I'm excited about that. I'm excited about 487 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: the future with TV. And as you know, Dave, every 488 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: player wants to have a Hall of Fame career. I 489 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 1: know I haven't had that. I haven't had an opportunity 490 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 1: to go out there and make that happen, whether it 491 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: be injuries or situations or play. But as a broadcaster, 492 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: that's the goal. Get in the Hall of Fame as 493 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 1: a broadcaster, be a great storyteller, tell these guys stories 494 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: the right way. I'm enjoying that. But yes, who's your 495 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 1: favorite team, Davis? The Cardinals? Well it better I've done 496 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: their games for twenty one years, so it better be 497 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 1: the Cardinals. Sorrow and said, hey, Kyler Pulahammy, we need you. 498 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: I'd be there, But at the end of the day, 499 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: I'm enjoying what I'm doing. Last question, and that's another 500 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: one that I'm sure you've been asked a lot since 501 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: you were pretty vocal on social media about being interested 502 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: in being a part of ownership with the Washington Commanders. 503 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: Is that's something that you're still interested in and looking into. Yes, 504 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,479 Speaker 1: I just shifted that interest from social media to the 505 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: private conversations that they have to be in. So when 506 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: I put that tweet out at first, I did not 507 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: expect the response that it got. You know, wanting to 508 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: be a part of minority ownership and also bringing ten 509 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: fans along for the ride and they don't have to 510 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: pay for anything. Well, The amount of cause I got 511 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: in the next four hours after that tweet went out 512 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: was unbelievable. There's just a lot of interest in people 513 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 1: wanting to own football teams. They wanted to be minority 514 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: owners and a team like the Washington Commanders, So that 515 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: is happening. Those conversations are still going on. I did 516 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: put out there that I had four hundred million already committed. 517 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: That is not a lie. That is true. It's grown 518 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: since then. But at the end of the day, you 519 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: got to find the right people to partner with, and 520 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,239 Speaker 1: that's the process I'm going through right now. On that 521 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: side of it, it would be really cool to have 522 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 1: a full circle moment being a player for the Commanders 523 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 1: to now come back and be a minority owner and 524 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: try to help the team and the city get the 525 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: winner that it deserves. That would be really awesome. But 526 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, Dan Sneibers got to 527 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: decide if he's gonna sell a team or not. I 528 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: don't have any control over that. Well, listen, man, it's 529 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 1: been eleven years since we last talk, but I'm grateful 530 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: for you doing this. You do such a great job 531 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: on both college football, the games and the studio stuff 532 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: on Monday Night NFL. I just love the fact that 533 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: you're yourself, You're entertaining, your fun and it keeps me watching. 534 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 1: So keep it up. Appreciate you, Dave, and you never know, man, 535 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 1: you never know what could happen. We could do some 536 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 1: more of these to be working together in the future. 537 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: I'm really honored to be on here with you. Man. Well, 538 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: if you haven't had an opportunity to listen slash watch 539 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: Robert on college football games on Saturday during the week 540 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: with studio for NFL and ESPN, or on Monday Night Countdown, 541 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: you certainly can see why he's a rising star in 542 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: this business. Very engaging, great personality and obviously very dialed 543 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 1: in on both college football and the NFL. He mentioned 544 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 1: he had a chance to talk one on one with 545 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, sharing some of those comments that he had 546 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 1: for Kyler, and also gave his thoughts on how Kay 547 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: one is playing here in twenty twenty two. Also thought 548 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: it was really interesting his thoughts on being a potential 549 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: owner in the NFL and that he wants to be 550 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:55,479 Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame broadcaster when he's done with his career. 551 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: We are presented by BETMGM, the official sports betting partner 552 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals and by Hila River Resorts and Casinos. 553 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: Tell us what you think by rating us, going to 554 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: your podcast platform let us know if there's any guests 555 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: that you'd like to hear from down the road. You 556 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: can also follow us on Twitter at pashpod. Thanks again 557 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 1: to you for listening, and thanks to Robert Griffin the 558 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: Third for being this week's guest on the Date Pash 559 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 1: Podcast