WEBVTT - Stranger Things season 5, Episodes 1 & 2 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:00.680 Warning. 0:00:01.200 --> 0:00:05.280 Today's episode cand it's spoilers for Stranger Things episodes one 0:00:05.320 --> 0:00:24.320 and two of the final season season five. Hello, my 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:27.560 name is Jason gets Ups and I'm Rosey Knight and 0:00:27.680 --> 0:00:29.640 welcome back to Xtra revision of the podcast where we 0:00:29.720 --> 0:00:32.199 dive de be to your favorite shows, movies, comics, and 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:35.080 pop culture comedy Over my Heart podcast. We're bringing you 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:37.040 three episodes a week plus days outsider. 0:00:38.200 --> 0:00:40.440 In today's episode, We're back, guys. 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:45.000 There's egoes, there's blowouts, there's big hair, there's fights, there's 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:48.680 demic organs, there's X Men references, it's Stranger Things. 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:50.000 There's back, and we're in. 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:53.000 There that's still in high school. And me and Jason 0:00:53.000 --> 0:00:57.400 are recapping episodes five oh one and five oh two 0:00:57.600 --> 0:00:58.640 for you and guys. 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:00.720 Just remember production note. 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:03.240 This holiday season, we'll be sharing a couple of short 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:08.720 stocking stuff for episodes with you. With so many great shows, movies, comics, books, toys, 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:11.200 all kinds of fun things we want to explore, these 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:14.120 episodes will help us cover some extra content we wouldn't 0:01:14.160 --> 0:01:16.600 usually be able to cover on our normal episodes. We 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:18.760 had our first few episodes last week, and keep an 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:20.840 eye out for more throughout December. 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:28.400 But first episode five oh one, the Crawl, we open 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:33.080 in the Upside Down Z's back in back in the 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:37.840 day nineteen eighty three when Will Byers was first trapped 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:43.160 down there and he's being hunted by the demogorgan and 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:48.640 who finds him but Veakna, And basically this reframes what 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:54.720 we knew about Will's disappearance into the Upside Down, that 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:58.760 it wasn't just like one of those early forays into 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:01.840 the battle between good and evil and Hawkins and Vecna. 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:07.000 It was actually some part of Vecna's long plan. Yes, 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:09.119 whatever that plan is. 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:11.120 He definitely chose well. 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:14.919 And we get this really creepy moment, which is hilarious. 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:16.680 I was watching this with Nick, who has never seen 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:17.600 any strange thing. 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:19.480 Because it was so funny. 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:23.040 The post is so funny where he is just like like, 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:24.080 she's gonna be. 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:24.880 Like wait what. 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:27.919 He doesn't understand what's going on, but it was really 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:31.040 funny because the moment that we see them, we see 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:34.560 Vecna put his kind of creepy mouth thing. 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:36.480 Into your mouth. It's really bad. 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:39.760 And Nick was like, you know what, here's an outsider perspective. 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:41.840 I probably would have turned it off after that. 0:02:41.960 --> 0:02:44.200 Why is he putting that in an eleven year old's mouth, 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:47.359 And I was like, thanks, granddad, but yes, now it's 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:48.520 only four years later. 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:50.560 Shockingly, Jason, where we caught. 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:53.760 It's the present day later. And by the way, this 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:57.919 is the opening featured a de aged Will Bias. 0:02:58.000 --> 0:02:59.799 They should have just shot that in the time when 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:01.760 he says, if we're watching. 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:05.320 The irishmid or something, yeah, like come on, we cut 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:10.480 to the president's now nineteen eighty seven, but basically like 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:15.679 four years nearly to the day later from the flashback, 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:20.400 Hawkins is under a government occupation. Everybody in the town 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:25.680 is taking this essentially in stride. Steve Harrington and Robin 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:30.280 are now working at the local radio station, where you know, 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:35.120 Robin is like the hot DJ in town giving updates 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:41.000 about the military occupation, but in a subversive way where 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:45.040 it's like she's kind of criticizing it, but also in 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:49.360 a way that makes it somehow palatable to the military. 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:52.000 Yeah, she's doing a lot of like and next this 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:55.120 great song Kids in America and kid Yeah, I hope 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:58.000 you're doing okay in this version of America, which kind 0:03:58.040 --> 0:04:00.640 of sucks, but you know, lots of fun. 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:03.400 I love I love Maya Huac in this role. They 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:05.480 truly were blessed to get her. 0:04:07.160 --> 0:04:13.400 Meanwhile, the military is there to do a couple of things, 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:15.640 one of which we're gonna find out about, the other 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:19.480 of which is obviously to find eleven, track her down 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:24.320 and take her prisoner. She's doing her Jedi training out 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:27.279 like in the woods, like jumping over cars and blowing 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:32.280 up pumpkins and doing all that stuff. Hopper and Joyce 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:36.440 are you know, checking in with her. Meanwhile, Dustin is 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:39.520 still in school at twenty six years. 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:44.040 Old and a school. It's my biggest question, send him 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:44.520 to college. 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:48.440 He's he's devastated over the death of Eddie at the 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:50.960 end of season four and the sacrifice Eddie made, and 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:54.480 the fact that the kind of the jocks in school 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:58.760 certainly still still view Eddie as like a piece of 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:04.320 shit hell fire club murderer and don't celebrate him in 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:06.520 the way he deserves to be celebrated as someone who 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:11.000 literally kind of soft saved the world, you know, a 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:15.200 little bit kind of saved it. Meanwhile, the mission, part 0:05:15.240 --> 0:05:19.599 of the military's mission is to they're going into the 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:23.320 upside down for something. They do a controlled burn, which 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:28.599 is like a flame throwing open this very vaginal birth 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:34.120 canal gate into the upside down. Hopper is going to 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:39.760 go in there, and you know, uh. 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:42.720 I guess like look for Vecna. It's kind of look 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:44.360 for to hunt him down and care. 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:48.559 It's kind of how in Godzilla, the American legendary monster 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:51.080 us stuff. To get into the hollow Earth, you have 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:52.320 to follow a titan. 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:53.800 This is kind of their version. 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:56.520 They sort of sneak in after the government, right like, 0:05:56.760 --> 0:05:58.320 I don't notice. 0:05:58.160 --> 0:05:59.880 That's the plan, and then the kids are going to 0:05:59.920 --> 0:06:04.200 be outside basically tracking him in parallel in the right 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:08.440 side up, keeping within radio range so they can always 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:13.080 like know where he is. Meanwhile, Holly Wheeler, Mike and 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:17.800 Nancy's once very minor character sister is now taking her 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:20.919 steps into the foreground of our story. She's in middle 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:24.280 school now and she's got an imaginary friend. Uh not 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:26.640 even I don't know, like imaginary adult friend. 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:29.440 I know it's it's very imaginary. 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:35.080 Yeah, yes, named mister what's it? Who? Is a character 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:39.119 from Madeline Lengles A Wrinkle in Time, which she's also 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:43.240 reading and which is kind of the big eighties pop 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:48.119 culture drop of this season thus far. A teacher sees 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:51.880 her talking to this imaginary mister. Imaginary Air quotes mister 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:54.320 what's it? And doesn't see anything, just sees her talking 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:58.400 to to air. And obviously people are concerned that night 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:03.200 our heroes do the crow all and Will's the back 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:09.960 of Will's neck goes fucking crazy. God, it's going. It's 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:14.880 going nuts now. And Will's connection with the upside Down 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:17.640 and specifically with a Dema Gorgon and the upside Down 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:21.840 is like stronger and more amplified than ever. He basically 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:26.000 sees through its eyes, thinks its thoughts, sees everything it sees, 0:07:26.720 --> 0:07:30.360 and does he hunt against soldiers and stuff? 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:31.600 Does he control it? 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:34.520 It's hunts down the soldiers to stop them from getting 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:35.160 to hop By. 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:37.120 I think they want us to feel like. 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:39.720 The connection might be that big because it kills all 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:41.080 the soldiers but leaves Hoppa. 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:41.920 But we don't know. 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:46.600 It's a good question, right whether it goes both ways, 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:51.239 And I think you're right that it's certainly open for debate. 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:56.200 The Dema Gorgon then makes a beeline towards the Wheeler 0:07:56.280 --> 0:08:00.320 House in the Upside Down, creating a portal to like, 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:06.559 you know, drill through the interdimensional barriers. And who should 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:09.559 be in the house at the moment, but one Holly 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:13.400 Wheeler who's like you know, in her bedroom being being weird. 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:17.000 As the lights start flickering and the portal to the 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:19.240 upside Down opens in the corner of the bedroom and 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:22.119 the demo Gorgan peaks its disgusting head through and roars 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:24.880 at her. Okay, let's take a quick break and we'll 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:44.240 be right back with episode two. Episode two, the Vanishing 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:47.240 of Holly Wheeler. We pick up right where we left off. 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:52.640 It's chaos at the Wheeler households. Holly is fucking screaming. 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:57.120 H Karen is in the bathroom getting ready to like. 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:02.120 Zone out and bad mumming it up as always. 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:06.240 Somehow does not hear the screaming and crashing and banging 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:09.360 and Dema Gorgons slamming that's going on just down the hall. 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:14.880 Ted Wheeler is outside shanking golf balls into the tree. 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:19.000 Both these parents need to stew out. Also, we didn't 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:21.560 even mention the fact that in the first opening of 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:25.120 the show, after we see DHD well you also like 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:28.040 lun I just everyone's living in the Wheeler House like 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:30.680 it's like a blended family sitcom and. 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:39.320 Over it is over it, Holly runs to go you know, 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:41.880 find mom in the bathroom and Mom's like, what are 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:45.599 you talking about? Like, okay, this is a dream. But 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:47.480 then it turns out, guess what, the demo Gorgan's there. 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:51.600 Karen steps up, attacks a demogorn with wine bottle, gets 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:52.560 in some good hits. 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:55.360 I gotta say, impressive amount of hits from Karen. That's 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:58.640 the desperation of an agrie mom. I love to sit 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:04.959 and the mcrogan actually also, I was pretty shocked in 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:08.880 the moment where the demo Gorgan sort of like the 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:12.080 way it uses its hands, It almost like just claws 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:15.880 through Karen's stomach, no issue, and it demolishes the dad 0:10:15.920 --> 0:10:17.400 when he should mention him. 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:20.400 Ted comes in. Ted comes in with the golf club, 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:22.080 gets absolutely fucking wrecked. 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:24.520 Might be dead, it looks like. 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:29.640 And then and then the Demigorgon, after getting stabbed a 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:33.319 couple times with this broken wine bottle, just slashes Karen 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:37.000 about the neck and she's really really fucked up, and 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:40.600 Holly has been dragged into the upside down. But before 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:45.600 the portal seals eleven, going against the set crawl plan 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:51.559 and the demands of fucking sex addict David Harper. 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:55.079 Harper tells a terrible dad. 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:58.160 Guys, just like awful dad, always been an awful dad. 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:00.840 And I wrote an article about him fucking twenty nineteen, 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:04.280 about season three, and I stand by it because this man, 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:06.240 he's talking time about you're going to do it quick on. 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:07.560 You got to that's not even your. 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:12.600 Child, who listen? He is that they had a deal 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:14.480 that unless she hit a certain number, she could not 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:16.640 come on the mission to the Upside Down. But now 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:19.040 she's got to go because she's got to save Holly Wheeler, 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:19.960 so she goes, yeah. 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:20.600 Fuck. 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:24.720 Meanwhile, the military eventually shows up locks down the Wheeler house, 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:27.760 and they're convinced like, oh now we're on the path 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:32.080 to eleven. We're gonna find her now. And they're you know, 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:36.600 studying photos and surveillance and trying to figure out like, okay, 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:39.880 who do we how do we really like find her? Meanwhile, 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:42.360 and they figure out like, oh, if we if we 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:46.720 zero in on Jane, that's maybe the way to do it. Meanwhile, 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:51.640 on the Upside Down, Ellen Hopper reunite when Elle throws 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:55.600 him into a tree and they have an argument. They 0:11:55.600 --> 0:11:57.560 have an argument about like what are you doing here? 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:02.720 But there's really no time to talk because you know, uh, 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:07.000 the Demi Gorgan is down there, and you know, Ella's like, listen, 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:10.199 we need to find Holly Wheeler. And Hopper's like, what 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:13.320 the sister. He's like, yes, Lucas, she's a minor character. 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:16.200 That's what was like, that's what we're doing now, okay, 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:19.880 and he's like very Burgrudgering is like fine. Back in Hawkins, 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:25.440 Nancy and Might go to the hospital, and Nancy is 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:29.400 just very, very very upset because like she has seen 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:32.640 versions of something like this happening, and she blames herself, 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:37.880 and Lucas meanwhile reminds them that, hey, think about the 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:38.520 timing here. 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:40.880 Oh okay, finally somebody clever. 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:44.760 This is like, let Lucas be the w yes and 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:47.559 be the will of this show. We know that this 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:50.160 is gonna he should be the style historian. 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:52.040 Like yes, he's so glad he said. 0:12:52.160 --> 0:12:54.480 When he said this, I was like, oh my god, 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:57.640 finally someone who's like keeping a calendar or a journal, 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:00.400 like you guys are just acting like this is knew, 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:02.439 but it's been happening for four years. 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:05.959 Like Lucas is making a planet. I can't wait to. 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:08.720 Talk about that. Okay, So Lucas, Yes, Lucas is the 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:13.000 only one who's like, oh my god, this is like 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:16.840 like four years to the day of when Will vanished, 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:20.199 Like in three days, it's gonna be exactly four years. 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:23.920 And why didn't Vecna if he really wanted to hurt us? 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:26.040 Why didn't he like kill Karen, like he could have 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:28.120 killed everybody in the else he didn't. What's he like? 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:32.760 There's something else going on? But what is it? Will 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:36.640 then says, oh, yeah, by the way, I'm seeing through 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:39.640 the demo organized, so like my connections to the upside 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:42.760 down is like changed and it's more amplified. And I'm 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:45.520 not just sensing Vecna, I'm sensing other stuff. It's like 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:47.720 a hive, like a hive mind. 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:51.880 Okay, Jason, how how wide on a scale of one 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:55.199 to ten, did when going to ride his eyes go 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:59.240 when Will said that he had this new power? 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:03.839 It went very wide. It's crazy by this time that 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:10.719 four years you're still acting like this is new and 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:17.080 she can't believe what's happening, and it's like, Joyce, babe, 0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:18.600 this has been going on. 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:21.640 I'm like, I can't been good like and everyone knows 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:24.480 now too, Like your city is under quarantine. You are 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:26.760 no longer like a mom having to hide the fact 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:28.960 that you believe your kid is still alive, like there 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:33.360 is a military occupation of porkins, which also Jay said 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:35.080 something else I want to ask you about because I 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:40.640 feel like American culture is obsessed with putting fictional American 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:42.800 towns into quarantine zones, and I want to talk about it. 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:44.400 But anyway, back to the recap. 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:46.640 Yes, let's we'll talk about that after the next ereak. 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:50.920 So then Robin is we learn is has a girlfriend 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:57.640 named Vicki. She's a nurse and also nurse slash candy 0:14:57.680 --> 0:14:59.360 striper outfits of the eighties. 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:01.880 Insane, Insane that they would make people with that. 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:07.200 They look like they should be legitimately hawking like candies 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:10.080 and in a cinema coffee in a cigarettes. 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:11.200 Yeah. Completely. 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:16.640 Anyway, Robin has a girlfriendamed Vicky, and they're treating Will's 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:22.000 goosebumps and his seizures, and they're figuring out like, Okay, 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:24.720 maybe we can use Will to like track back. Now, 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:29.840 Joyce does not love that idea because so you're my 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:32.160 son and we're not doing that, blah blah blah, and 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:34.520 Will's like, yes, I am because like, you gotta let 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:36.160 me do what I'm gonna do, because again this has 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:38.920 been gone for four years mom, and like let me 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:39.120 do it. 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:39.560 Yeah. 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:46.720 Jonathan and Steve are arguing about really Steve's pred election 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:51.040 to like do stuff to impress Nancy. Like they had 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:53.960 this pissing contest at the radio station about like who's 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:55.920 gonna climb up the ladders to the top of the 0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:59.840 fucking radio tires, Like, guys, calm down. Let me Also, 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:03.080 I just want to say, like Jonathan ran out first. 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:05.480 He kind of started it and then acted like a victim, 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:08.400 like Steve, why are you why are you doing this? 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:11.840 No, I'm a Jonathan. Hey, he can go in the 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:13.880 trash with Dustin, I mean with no notice. 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:15.120 Sorry, Dustin, I meant help. 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:20.280 Oh god, he was like Jonathan was like one wrung 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:24.240 up the ladder and out of breath. So maybe don't 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:28.120 talk about your fitness Jonathan. Anyway, So they're talking about 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:31.080 this like stop, you know. Jonathan's like, hey, stop doing this, 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:37.560 like it's really annoying Steve. Meanwhile, Steve is like, Dustin, 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:42.120 I know you're lying about the fact that like you're 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:45.760 beat up clearly and that your bullies did this, but 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:47.720 you're trying to say, like, oh, I fell off a 0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:50.680 ladder or some bullshit like I and. 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:54.680 Dustin and Steve obviously in some kind of argument off 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:57.640 the Eddie's death, like Dustin feels like he didn't do 0:16:57.760 --> 0:17:00.160 enough or something, which again taking away one of the 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:02.520 loveliest elements of the show, which is their friendship. 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:05.480 But yes, Dustin did get beating up. He did make it. 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:08.720 And now with this tiny little John Watter's mustache and 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:10.920 his mullet, he is embroiled. 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:12.600 In the Holly Wheelerss situation. 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:16.760 Mike and Nancy disguised themselves as hospital staff to get 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:19.720 in to talk to Karen. Karen, you know, her throat's 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:22.040 been torn out, so she has to write stuff, but 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:25.959 she writes what she remembers. And Will and Robin realized 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:30.920 that Will's latest collapse was him seeing from Holly's point 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:35.720 of view. And now between Karen's notes and Will's visions, 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:38.280 they kind of figure out, like, what's going on, mister, 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:43.800 what's it? Holly's imaginary friend is Vetna Henry Creole and 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:48.840 he's luring her to the upside down for something, Yes, Bob. 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:52.120 And he's gonna keep her family safe and yeah. I mean, 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:54.760 Karen's really going through it. Literally, all she could write 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:57.359 was just the word Henry. So well, it was going 0:17:57.400 --> 0:18:00.520 badly for her, and he's going badly for Holly because 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:05.359 now she's in the creole the creepy creole house and 0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:08.480 h Yeah. 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:09.840 Let's take a quick let's take a quick break, come back, 0:18:09.840 --> 0:18:13.000 and let's discuss straight the first two episodes of Stranger 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:32.639 Thinks the final game, and we're back. Okay, I have 0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:35.879 a Before we get into our general thoughts, I have 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:39.440 a I have an overall opinion that I'd like to share. 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:39.879 Please. 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:46.200 I think that in the future, for shows such as 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:50.639 this that cast younger actors and have a story that 0:18:50.800 --> 0:18:57.359 unfolds over multiple seasons. I think Game of Thrones is 0:18:57.359 --> 0:19:00.560 another example of this. Lost is another example of this, 0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:05.720 although less centered on young there's only one young character. 0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:12.040 I would I would suggest to the showrunners to think 0:19:12.080 --> 0:19:17.720 about shifting the show so that it more closely tracks 0:19:18.280 --> 0:19:20.280 real life time. 0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:21.159 Yeah. 0:19:21.200 --> 0:19:24.199 Like, there's nothing in this season of Stranger Things, in 0:19:24.240 --> 0:19:28.800 my opinion, that says Dustin still has to be in 0:19:28.880 --> 0:19:31.080 high school. No, like these kids still have to be 0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:33.000 They don't have to They could be in college. 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:34.280 They could be junior college. 0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:38.400 They let Steve leave high school and get a summer job, 0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:41.719 you know, like, at least let these kids do that. 0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:44.720 Like Dustin literally looks like he's twenty five and owns 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:46.560 a mechanics office. 0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:48.280 Like I Also, I. 0:19:48.240 --> 0:19:52.320 Don't personally think that the trapping of the eighties at 0:19:52.320 --> 0:19:54.880 this point is so important that they needed to keep 0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:57.639 it there. I think they could have fully gone to 0:19:57.720 --> 0:20:00.480 the nineties at this season. Also, like every has done 0:20:00.560 --> 0:20:03.440 time jumps, there's no harm in a time jump. I 0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:06.760 was assuming there would be a time jump. I did 0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:09.560 not think it would just go straight in. So I 0:20:09.640 --> 0:20:13.080 will say, you know, it's not exactly like the world's 0:20:13.680 --> 0:20:17.560 most fresh take, but I do think that it takes 0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:20.199 you out of the show, like for me personally as 0:20:20.240 --> 0:20:22.399 somebody who's followed the show the whole way through the season, 0:20:22.520 --> 0:20:25.040 but also as people watching with someone who had never 0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:30.400 seen the show, Like it is Riverdale levels of distracting 0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:36.280 this season, how old the kids are and why there's 0:20:36.359 --> 0:20:39.639 no narrative reason because like the basketball bullying stuff for 0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:42.719 Dustin not one of the strongest subplots. Like, there's a 0:20:42.760 --> 0:20:46.679 lot of subplots here, and I feel like you probably 0:20:46.680 --> 0:20:48.879 could have xd out a few by allowing it to 0:20:49.000 --> 0:20:50.760 age a little more naturally. 0:20:52.160 --> 0:20:55.560 I agree, And I think that I'm always a sucker 0:20:55.600 --> 0:20:59.679 for the end of a show montage that's like, oh, 0:21:00.160 --> 0:21:02.600 look how young everybody was and look what they look like. Now, 0:21:03.240 --> 0:21:07.879 that's always like an emotional drunk that you can bang. 0:21:08.240 --> 0:21:11.600 And you can do that if you let the characters age. Yeah, 0:21:11.640 --> 0:21:15.120 I just find it. I just think to your point, 0:21:15.400 --> 0:21:19.800 it is mega distracting at this point, and and why 0:21:19.840 --> 0:21:23.479 not just do that because you could also age up 0:21:23.480 --> 0:21:26.040 the themes, like you could have more or just like 0:21:26.160 --> 0:21:30.040 more adult I think, happy, what am I gonna do 0:21:30.080 --> 0:21:32.800 with my life? Am I ever gonna find like a 0:21:32.920 --> 0:21:34.800 person to be in a long term relationship with? 0:21:35.000 --> 0:21:35.679 These are all. 0:21:35.560 --> 0:21:38.840 Things that like you can do that in this space 0:21:38.880 --> 0:21:41.240 of Hawkins is so interesting. And I will also say 0:21:41.320 --> 0:21:44.600 I totally agree with you because I think that, for example, 0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:47.040 I do want to see and we're never gonna get this. 0:21:47.160 --> 0:21:48.200 I get it maybe in. 0:21:48.200 --> 0:21:52.040 A cool book twenty years down the line that's sorted 0:21:52.040 --> 0:21:54.199 by an incredible genre, right and we don't even know 0:21:54.280 --> 0:21:56.400 yet who's probably writing, you know, has been hotel foun 0:21:56.480 --> 0:21:58.800 fiction right now, maybe there'll be an eleven book that 0:21:58.840 --> 0:22:02.160 deals with this, but the maturing of the themes would 0:22:02.160 --> 0:22:04.000 have allowed us to deal with the fact that Hoppit 0:22:04.119 --> 0:22:08.200 essentially kidnapped a child, kept her in prison by the way, 0:22:08.320 --> 0:22:10.480 kept her imprisoned in a wooden. 0:22:10.119 --> 0:22:13.560 Shack for a year, and is now still a bad dad. 0:22:13.640 --> 0:22:16.000 Like I would have just like a tiny bit of 0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:19.000 eleven being like, I'm twenty one, now, what does that 0:22:19.119 --> 0:22:19.600 look like? 0:22:19.800 --> 0:22:22.879 What am I real? You know, there's something I think 0:22:23.400 --> 0:22:25.399 that is missing in that. 0:22:25.800 --> 0:22:31.320 But also I would say that, yeah, Ian Will being 0:22:31.359 --> 0:22:34.439 addicted to drugs to like try and deal with the 0:22:34.480 --> 0:22:38.159 abduction or something, so many interesting analogus I feel like 0:22:38.240 --> 0:22:41.280 they could have done, as these kids are all now 0:22:41.280 --> 0:22:44.960 in their twenties. But saying that, I also understand that 0:22:45.240 --> 0:22:47.320 this show has a lot to wrap up if you 0:22:47.400 --> 0:22:49.960 have been following it, So I will say that I 0:22:50.040 --> 0:22:52.320 do think, you know, one of the big critiques in 0:22:52.359 --> 0:22:54.879 my living room and also in the internet, is like 0:22:55.200 --> 0:22:57.960 this is just to show. These first episodes especially, are 0:22:57.960 --> 0:23:00.800 lots of people just having conversations. But if you are 0:23:00.880 --> 0:23:03.520 invested in those characters and care about where they're going, 0:23:03.600 --> 0:23:06.520 then you care about the conversations. But it's not necessarily 0:23:07.160 --> 0:23:09.320