WEBVTT - A&G Replay Friday Hour Two

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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<v Speaker 2>Armstrong and Getty and he.

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<v Speaker 3>Armstrong and Getty Strong and.

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<v Speaker 2>Armstrong and Getty, except we're not actually here. We're home.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I hope you enjoy this carefully curated Armstrong and

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<v Speaker 4>Getty replay. So I'm going to build a case right now,

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<v Speaker 4>and I feel like it is pretty damn strong about why,

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<v Speaker 4>all of a sudden, Like after twenty ten or so,

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<v Speaker 4>all of us started hearing about these radical ideologies about

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<v Speaker 4>systemic racism, mer transphobia or transgenderism in general, and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>all your gender bending madness and your there are.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually a number of variations.

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<v Speaker 4>You should read James Lindsay's and Helen Pluckrose's fabulous books

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<v Speaker 4>Cynical Theories about the Critical Theory crowd. But everybody started

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<v Speaker 4>hearing about this all of a sudden, and then it

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<v Speaker 4>like washed across the landscape like a tide, and all

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<v Speaker 4>of a sudden.

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<v Speaker 3>If you were to say, wait a minute, that's cuckoo nuts.

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<v Speaker 4>I'd never even heard this until a year ago, and

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<v Speaker 4>now you're telling me I have to parrot it.

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<v Speaker 3>Or I lose my job. What the hell are we

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<v Speaker 3>doing here?

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<v Speaker 4>Thought many many people, some of us set it out loud,

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<v Speaker 4>some of you weren't in a position to do that.

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<v Speaker 4>But I've been looking at a bunch of different statistics

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<v Speaker 4>and they all kind of come together in my head.

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<v Speaker 4>The first one is a set of graphs, and we'll

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<v Speaker 4>post these at armstrong and giddy dot com about mentions

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<v Speaker 4>of terms like racism, racist racists in your big four

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<v Speaker 4>newspapers New York Times, Washington Post, LA Times, in Wall

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<v Speaker 4>Street Journal, also sexism, sexist and misogyny, and homophobia and homophobic, transphobia, transphobic, islamophobia, islamophobic,

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<v Speaker 4>and finally anti semitism and anti semitic. I will tell

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<v Speaker 4>you in advance that that one's not nearly as notable,

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<v Speaker 4>for reasons which I'll bet.

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<v Speaker 3>You could figure out.

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<v Speaker 4>But so these graphs virtually and they all have little variations,

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<v Speaker 4>but the overall shape of them are identical, with the

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<v Speaker 4>exception of the anti semitism one. They kind of burbled

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<v Speaker 4>along with events at a very low rate through an Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry I should mention to you that this is

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<v Speaker 4>who did this pole Oh, I can't see it it's

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<v Speaker 4>half obscured, but it's they've been doing this poll since

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<v Speaker 4>or the data went back to nineteen seventy. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>they burbled along with little ups and downs as news

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<v Speaker 4>occurred in the United States. But then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 4>in like twenty twelve, racism, racists, racist, all those mentions

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<v Speaker 4>in the big four newspapers skyrocketed to many multiples of

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<v Speaker 4>what they've been in the past. Interesting, likewise, sexist, sexist, misogyny,

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<v Speaker 4>as you might guess, transphobic didn't exist.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, that one of course.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but prior to like twenty oh eight, Then in

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<v Speaker 4>twenty twelve or so, it started to skyrockets. Likewise, islamophobian, islamophobic.

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<v Speaker 4>This has been going on for so long now. I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't note that there were much fewer mentions of racist

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<v Speaker 4>prior to twenty twelve. I didn't perceive that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been so long. I guess I don't remember.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, the whole Well, generally you had to have

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<v Speaker 4>racism to call something racist. And I'll skip to the

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<v Speaker 4>end the conclusion, then i'll back it up. But my

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<v Speaker 4>conclusion is the critical mass of critical theory infecting our

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<v Speaker 4>schools and universities which started in the nineteen seventies. I'll

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<v Speaker 4>spare you the whole history of it, but it achieved

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<v Speaker 4>a real critical mass in around twenty twenty ten for

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<v Speaker 4>reasons which we'll get into in a minute. But I

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<v Speaker 4>remember I read a great editorial to y'all several weeks

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<v Speaker 4>ago from a professor who said, Hey, I was a

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<v Speaker 4>professor at that time in the seventies, and we thought, look,

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<v Speaker 4>if we're going to be an institutional vote and inquiry,

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<v Speaker 4>we've got to admit these radical leftist professors in who

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<v Speaker 4>are doing the air anti colonial stuff and critical theory

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<v Speaker 4>and all the crap that you hear all the time

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<v Speaker 4>now out of the mouths of your college sophomore just

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<v Speaker 4>came home unrecognizable to the little girl you'd sent away.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 4>But then once those people got in, they closed the

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<v Speaker 4>door behind them and refused to hire anybody but those people.

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<v Speaker 4>And I just think that critical mass in academia infected

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<v Speaker 4>media and your social type of majors and just people

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<v Speaker 4>who tend to think like that around you know, the

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<v Speaker 4>late two thousands, and then it just exploded because they

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<v Speaker 4>felt like they had the power to advocate for themselves

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<v Speaker 4>around twenty ten or so. And again, these graphs are

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<v Speaker 4>quite striking to look at. I told you i'd back

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<v Speaker 4>it up. You know that's I'm gonna skip over here,

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<v Speaker 4>back it up, backing it up totally different meaning ah so,

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<v Speaker 4>And this is from the invaluable Chris Rufo. But he's

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<v Speaker 4>been involved in a bit of an online debate about

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<v Speaker 4>taking the middle ground or trying to be fair blah

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<v Speaker 4>blah blah universities and where will they get you? And

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<v Speaker 4>he says, look, there's nothing beautiful about losing in this manner.

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<v Speaker 4>We've been trying to do that and it's been a

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<v Speaker 4>miserable failure. And this is from the Carnegie Foundation. They've

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<v Speaker 4>been doing this polling since the late nineteen sixties. It's

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<v Speaker 4>the faculty ideology in the United States poll from nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>sixty nine to twenty twenty two. And just for the

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<v Speaker 4>sake of the argument, I'm just going to pick out

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<v Speaker 4>nineteen eighty four, when Reagan was in office, it was

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<v Speaker 4>about forty percent of faculty called themselves far left liberal,

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<v Speaker 4>thirty four percent called themselves conservative, far right, and middle

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<v Speaker 4>of the road was about twenty seven percent. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 4>it was the liberal but yeah, colleges have always been

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<v Speaker 4>kind of liberal. Now far left liberal is seventy four percent,

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<v Speaker 4>middle of the road is fifteen percent, and conservative or

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<v Speaker 4>far right is just under eleven percent. So again, it's

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<v Speaker 4>seventy four to twenty five even including middle of the road.

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<v Speaker 4>And scientists who was looking at this commented that because

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<v Speaker 4>they dug into the statistics, American university faculty are more

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<v Speaker 4>likely to identify as socialist than conservative. Wow, it's more

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<v Speaker 4>than double twenty six percent say I'm a socialist, eleven

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<v Speaker 4>percent say I'm a conservative. Wow, and conservative only leads

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<v Speaker 4>March exist by three percent.

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<v Speaker 2>That is something.

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<v Speaker 4>So when I'm ranting about how diseased our education system is, folks,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not paranoid. Well, last thing I am is paranoid.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm an avowed realist. Twice as many.

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<v Speaker 2>Socialists as conservatives on a college campus in the faculty,

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<v Speaker 2>that's amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>And if you include them a far left liberal, it's

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<v Speaker 4>seven and a half to one for conservatives. And you

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<v Speaker 4>got a handful of middle of the road.

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<v Speaker 2>And people who are willing to call themselves Marxists. Probably

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of those socialists are, but I mean, you're

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<v Speaker 2>pretty hardcore if you're willing to call yourself a Marxist

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<v Speaker 2>is almost as many as conservatives.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that twenty six percent that are socialists.

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<v Speaker 4>How many of them are actually Marxists, They're just not

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<v Speaker 4>willing to say it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's actually a really good question.

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<v Speaker 4>And then my final bit of evidence that this is

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<v Speaker 4>just And again, I know you're busy. I know people

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<v Speaker 4>don't like to read books, but this is an absolutely

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<v Speaker 4>well known movement in intellectual circles, and it's been an

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<v Speaker 4>accumulating weight for the very long for a very long time.

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<v Speaker 4>And I would suggest I was talking about this yesterday

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<v Speaker 4>as a guy who studied political movements since I was

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<v Speaker 4>a kid, and certainly a college student, look at radical

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<v Speaker 4>political movements and whether there's something you really need to

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<v Speaker 4>worry about the same way.

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<v Speaker 2>Relate to it.

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<v Speaker 4>The same way you would if you heard somebody say

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<v Speaker 4>I'll never get cancer, or I don't have to worry

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<v Speaker 4>about my kid being on drugs, or I don't have

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<v Speaker 4>to worry about my marriage falling apart because we're solid.

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<v Speaker 3>You would look at that person.

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<v Speaker 4>You'd think, oh, boy, you may be mostly right, but

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<v Speaker 4>you're being very, very cavalier.

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<v Speaker 3>I would seriously urge you.

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<v Speaker 4>To take an attitude more like that when you look

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<v Speaker 4>at radical political movement's ability to really pervert what we

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<v Speaker 4>do here in the United States. Final thing, and this

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<v Speaker 4>is of all things, in the Wall Street Journal, which

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<v Speaker 4>is among the best available of the major news websites,

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<v Speaker 4>which is not to say it's great, but it's, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the best.

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<v Speaker 4>They have a graph they published this the other day

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<v Speaker 4>that seems to show near parody between left and right

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<v Speaker 4>wing political violence.

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<v Speaker 3>It was in the Journal.

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<v Speaker 4>It was sourced to the Center for Strategic and International Studies,

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<v Speaker 4>which by its own admission, reclassified all pro Palestinian violence

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<v Speaker 4>not as left wing but as ethno nationalist. It classifies

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<v Speaker 4>all anti Semitism as right wing, and all pro Palestinian

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<v Speaker 4>attacks on Jewish individuals or institutions are ethno nationalist, which

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<v Speaker 4>is left off of the right wing left wing little graph.

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<v Speaker 4>And as this author, who we've quoted many times she

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<v Speaker 4>writes for the Free Press, points out, this is just

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<v Speaker 4>nakedly partisan propaganda presented as data and then mainstreamed in

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<v Speaker 4>the American press. And there's more to her column, but

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<v Speaker 4>we're kind of out of time, maybe for another day.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I think you all know this. We all

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<v Speaker 4>know this are perceptions of what is happening in the

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<v Speaker 4>world are so twisted or misfocused by the lens of

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<v Speaker 4>our mainstream media and education.

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<v Speaker 3>It's funhouse mirror. It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was going to throw it at one point

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<v Speaker 2>that a lot of the explosion of various things we

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<v Speaker 2>talked about happened at the same time that smartphones and

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<v Speaker 2>the internet really got going on all that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not a coincidence.

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<v Speaker 4>Number one, as we know, smartphones in the internet, how

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<v Speaker 4>terrible ideas which were laughed out of every town in America.

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<v Speaker 4>Enough people came together globally to reinforce each other, and

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<v Speaker 4>so those terrible ideas grew. The other thing is the

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<v Speaker 4>smartphone and social media enabled the brutal, hateful policing of

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<v Speaker 4>anybody who went against them, docsing, ruining people's careers, getting

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<v Speaker 4>them fired from their jobs for saying, no, there are

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<v Speaker 4>two sexes, men and women, and you can't change it's impossible,

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<v Speaker 4>which is self evidently true. But yeah, people's careers were

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<v Speaker 4>ruined over that. That was part of the cell phone

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<v Speaker 4>explosion to and.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have to I mean, we don't guillotine people

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<v Speaker 2>in the United States. We ruin your life through you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the whole social media thing, and that keeps a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people quiet.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but that's why all of these crazy Marxist progressive

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<v Speaker 4>theories all launched when they did, is coming together of

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<v Speaker 4>critical mass in the academy, as they say, and technology.

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<v Speaker 4>like scorched confetti. For months, inmates had been falling ill

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<v Speaker 4>at the Cook County Jail in Chicago. Officials said they

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<v Speaker 4>heard rumors about extremely toxic drugs infiltrating the facility, delivered

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<v Speaker 4>on something so ordinary that it seemed impossible to stop. Then,

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<v Speaker 4>when the body appeared, something just clicked, said the head

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<v Speaker 4>investigator at the jail, whose name is Justin Wilkes. The

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<v Speaker 4>paper itself must be the culprit and it was deadly.

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<v Speaker 4>More overdoses soon followed. The next month, February twenty three,

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<v Speaker 4>another inmate died from smoking paper laced with mysterious new drugs.

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<v Speaker 3>In April another one.

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<v Speaker 4>People were dying so fast, said mister Wilkes, But one

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<v Speaker 4>of officials at the jail told their law enforcement colleagues

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<v Speaker 4>about it.

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<v Speaker 3>They said some found it hard to believe.

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<v Speaker 4>By the end of the year, at least six people

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<v Speaker 4>had died of overdose as many many were sickened, putting

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<v Speaker 4>the jail at the vanguard of a new kind of

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<v Speaker 4>drug war rights in New York times, one in which

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<v Speaker 4>extraordinarily powerful drugs can be invented faster than the authorities

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<v Speaker 4>can identify them, and where something is ubiquitous as paper

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<v Speaker 4>can become lethal. The story is fringe chemists are ushering

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<v Speaker 4>in a total transformation of the illicit drug market. Operating

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<v Speaker 4>from clandestine labs, they are churning out a dizzying array

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<v Speaker 4>of synthetic drugs, not only fentanyl, but also hazardous new tranquilizers, stimulants,

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<v Speaker 4>and complex cannaboids. Sometimes several unknown drugs appear on the

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<v Speaker 4>streets in a single month.

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<v Speaker 3>Many are so new they are not even illegal.

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<v Speaker 4>Yet nearly all of them are harder to trace than

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<v Speaker 4>conventional drugs, less expensive to produce, much more potent, and

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<v Speaker 4>far deadlier, according to scientists and law enforcement.

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<v Speaker 2>Around the globe.

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<v Speaker 4>And the unbridled use of synthetic drugs is as profound

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<v Speaker 4>for the illicit drug market as television was for radio,

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<v Speaker 4>or the computer was for the typewriter, scientists say, And

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<v Speaker 4>it is confounding law enforcement officials all over the world for.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of obvious reasons. Transport of them would be

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<v Speaker 2>you could transport so much of it without it'd be

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<v Speaker 2>very hard to catch.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, yeah, you send an inmate to a book, a magazine,

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<v Speaker 4>anything like that, and he knows the pages are saturated

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<v Speaker 4>with drugs, smokes them. Wow, nearly impossible to stop. And

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<v Speaker 4>they invent new drugs faster than we can make them illegal.

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<v Speaker 4>What's seeing right to this? Oh, I'm glad you you

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<v Speaker 4>asked that question. To do drugs quote unquote is a

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<v Speaker 4>completely different.

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<v Speaker 3>Proposition than it was.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, everybody talks about the sixties and seventies

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<v Speaker 4>or whatever the word has to be, don't do drugs,

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<v Speaker 4>don't do drugs at all, or only do drugs that

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<v Speaker 4>you know precisely what they are, and anybody who does

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<v Speaker 4>the other thing is a fool who will die soon.

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<v Speaker 4>That's got to be normalized in our society. Like I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know, you know, it's like don't drink and drive

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<v Speaker 4>times five.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I was actually listened to a conversation about this

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<v Speaker 2>sort of thing yesterday the Dispatch podcast. They were talking

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<v Speaker 2>about how much gambling there is. They were using March

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<v Speaker 2>Madness as a kickoff point for how gambling has exploded

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<v Speaker 2>since we legalized and then how many people's lives it ruined,

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah blah. And the libertarian issue view is that

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<v Speaker 2>you just you got to have enough people lose it all,

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<v Speaker 2>and then society sees that and decides that's a bad

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<v Speaker 2>road to go down, and that that's the way things

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<v Speaker 2>work culturally with lots of different bad things for you,

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<v Speaker 2>and that might be the only way to do it,

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<v Speaker 2>But man, a lot of people got to lose their

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<v Speaker 2>kids before you get there exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>That's exactly where I was going to go.

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<v Speaker 4>The thing that bothers me, having read a lot about

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<v Speaker 4>the sports gambling thing, is that the main victims of

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<v Speaker 4>that are young males whose frontal cortex whatever that part

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<v Speaker 4>of your brain that teaches you caution and risk management.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not fully mature in an eighteen to twenty two

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<v Speaker 4>year old male, except in very rare instances, which is

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<v Speaker 4>part of the reason there's such good soldiers. So how

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<v Speaker 4>strong would a cultural norm have to be before an

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<v Speaker 4>eighteen year old with a love of thrills and very

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<v Speaker 4>little sense of caution? How strong did that norm have

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<v Speaker 4>to be before eighteen year olds wouldn't ruin their lives

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<v Speaker 4>over and over and over again. Yeah, with either you know,

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<v Speaker 4>drugs or gambling or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Why do we have so much of an appetite for

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<v Speaker 2>drugs in other countries? If that what I just said.

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<v Speaker 4>Is true, I don't know. I don't know. It could

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<v Speaker 4>be we're just so affluent. Could be, Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>if you're busting your ass all day long to feed

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<v Speaker 4>yourself and you don't have much of a welfare state, just.

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<v Speaker 3>What, you're going to be dead immediately? Or here's the question,

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<v Speaker 3>going to do it?

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<v Speaker 2>AI comes along and nobody has to work. Will that

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<v Speaker 2>lead to do more drug use or less? A hilarious question,

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<v Speaker 2>but yes, it's not even close.

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<v Speaker 4>What would happen if a monkey became too smart for

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<v Speaker 4>its own good. I think we're there. Of course people

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<v Speaker 4>have thought that before, and here we are, eight billion

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<v Speaker 4>of us.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not smart enough to wear pants. It was a.

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<v Speaker 4>Metaphor because I meant human beings. What if an ape

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<v Speaker 4>became too smart for its own I'm talking about humans.

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<v Speaker 4>Please wear your pants, no matter what breed of primate

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<v Speaker 4>you are. I lost the thread there I wear.

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<v Speaker 4>Beautiful, do you want to lead off the discussion with

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<v Speaker 4>what you observed.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was minded. Somebody brought up the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm uh remember the story last year of most women

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<v Speaker 2>would rather come across a bear when they're hiking than

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<v Speaker 2>a been a random dude. And I don't know how

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<v Speaker 2>we culturally convinced the female persuasion that men are so

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<v Speaker 2>incredibly scary.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think part of it is also we convinced

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<v Speaker 4>them that saying that made them look enlightened. They're warriors

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<v Speaker 4>against the the patriarchy and anyway, hashtag me too in

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<v Speaker 4>the rest?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it a big Uh? I got a big festival

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<v Speaker 2>going on in my town over the weekend, and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>we saw a couple of young women holding hands walking

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<v Speaker 2>down the street, and I made, uh, my usual dumb

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<v Speaker 2>joke of oh my god, those two women are holding hands.

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<v Speaker 2>What is going on?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I just find that funny.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I love to do with my daughter,

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<v Speaker 4>my youngest, especially because she can take an as she joke,

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<v Speaker 4>because We'll see a couple of dudes together and I'll say.

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<v Speaker 3>I have reason to believe they are homore sexual.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's basically what I said, And then my son said.

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<v Speaker 2>My son said, all, but they're not. I said what

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<v Speaker 2>he said, No, girls just hold hands?

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<v Speaker 3>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>I said they do? He said, yeah, all kinds of

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<v Speaker 2>girls in my school they do. They hold hands now?

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<v Speaker 2>And I said, what is that all about? And I

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<v Speaker 2>saw no less than ten pairs of women holding hands

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<v Speaker 2>walking down the street. Now, I don't know who was

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<v Speaker 2>straight and who was not, who was a couple, and

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<v Speaker 2>who is not. But he said they feel safer that way.

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<v Speaker 2>So are we to a point now where young women

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<v Speaker 2>feel like they got to hold hands with their friends

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<v Speaker 2>walking in public because it's so freaking scary out there.

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<v Speaker 2>That doesn't seem good, Katie, you're making a surprised face. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not surprised. They this is something that I've seen

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<v Speaker 2>within my own friend groups. I don't participate in it

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<v Speaker 2>or necessarily undersid I also didn't connect it with safety.

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<v Speaker 2>Well what is it then?

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<v Speaker 4>If he's not, we're just guessing as many hands that

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<v Speaker 4>you're disposal to do stuff with. So it doesn't sound

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<v Speaker 4>like a safety no me, But.

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<v Speaker 3>There have been.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's not like safety, like you're gonna fight, just

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<v Speaker 2>like a you know, we're together, okay. No, I I've

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<v Speaker 2>been in San Francisco many a time with groups of

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<v Speaker 2>girlfriends and all of a sudden, two of them are

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<v Speaker 2>old in hands and they're just doing it to do it. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>we were guessing on on the it makes them feel

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<v Speaker 2>safer thing. I mean, people have a tendency to hold

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<v Speaker 2>hands when they're like, you know, in a scary situation.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen it before, so it's a it's a it's

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<v Speaker 2>a it's an emotional thing. It's not a we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>fight thing. But but what do you think striving you think, Katie,

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<v Speaker 2>Because I was just guessing. I thought alcohol everyone and

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<v Speaker 2>every woman's two drinks away from a lesbian encounter, that

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<v Speaker 2>whole thing pretty much.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, lord, oh my, Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>There are societies Jack, you know this in the Middle East,

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<v Speaker 4>especially where grown men walk down the street holding Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I will not be visiting those societies.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, if anybody knows why this is happening, it

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<v Speaker 2>is happening a lot like and it's recent because I've

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<v Speaker 2>just seen it a lot with my own eyes. So

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<v Speaker 2>if you know text line four one, five two nine

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<v Speaker 2>to five KFTC, I hope it's a different reason. I

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<v Speaker 2>was thinking, Man, if everybody's so like anxious and uncomfortable

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<v Speaker 2>that the women that they feel like they need to

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<v Speaker 2>hold hands, like you know, I got you since I

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<v Speaker 2>got you two because it's so scary out there. That's

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<v Speaker 2>not good.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know me, I've established my cred is being

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<v Speaker 4>willing to put pooh anything done by young people willingly.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm in favor of real human contact as opposed to

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<v Speaker 4>online stuff, so I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe it's the reaction to that. Yeah, that's an interesting theory.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't know. Anyway, I want to get to this.

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<v Speaker 4>This is a big new poll of young British adults,

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<v Speaker 4>and the BRIT's a little further down the road, a

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<v Speaker 4>crazy than the US.

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<v Speaker 3>Depending on where you live.

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<v Speaker 4>If you live in a blue city or state, could

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<v Speaker 4>be you're keeping pace with our crazy, crazy cousins over

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<v Speaker 4>in Britain. But I like the way this is written

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<v Speaker 4>up before they get to the actual poll results. A

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<v Speaker 4>young woman sits in a comfortable London flat or a

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<v Speaker 4>sleek New York apartment, scrolling her feed and convinced the

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<v Speaker 4>world is rigged against her. She holds a university degree,

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<v Speaker 4>earns a solid paycheck, and enjoys better workplace opportunities than

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<v Speaker 4>her male peers at the same age. Yet she feels

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<v Speaker 4>profoundly unhappy, distrusts men, loathes her country, and views motherhood

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<v Speaker 4>as optional at best. And it's clear pattern impeating across

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<v Speaker 4>Britain and America. Ah da DA the left leaning New

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<v Speaker 4>Statesman pulled two thousand British adults between eighteen and thirty.

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<v Speaker 4>The widening gender gap among the young comes far more

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<v Speaker 4>from women moving sharply left than men turning right, no

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<v Speaker 4>matter what the lefty media would tell you. Among men

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<v Speaker 4>under thirty, seventy two percent hold a positive view of women,

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<v Speaker 4>an interesting lead question. Among women under thirty, only fifty

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<v Speaker 4>percent feel positive toward men, and the figure drops to

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<v Speaker 4>thirty five percent among women under twenty five.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow. So the younger they are, the more they hate men.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>Just eighteen percent of women under thirty feel very positive

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<v Speaker 4>about men, compared with thirty eight percent of men who

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<v Speaker 4>feel very positive about women. Again thirty eight to eighteen.

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<v Speaker 4>And to women, more than forty percent of young women

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<v Speaker 4>say men do not share their understanding of consent, while

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<v Speaker 4>only twenty five percent of men say the same thing

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<v Speaker 4>about women. That's a fraud topic, But let's get into

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<v Speaker 4>more sociological stuff. Young women are twice as likely as

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<v Speaker 4>young men to say they do not want children. The

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<v Speaker 4>process of bringing a child into the world is a

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<v Speaker 4>bit heavier on the woman, so I would grant them

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<v Speaker 4>a little leeway. Yes, but it's fifteen to eight, which

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<v Speaker 4>is not huge numbers among white women under thirty, though

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<v Speaker 4>the number rises to twenty percent significantly higher among white women.

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<v Speaker 4>One in four women call differing political views a red

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<v Speaker 4>flag and a partner. Sixty percent would struggle to date

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<v Speaker 4>someone who disagrees on Israel Palestine.

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<v Speaker 2>Topics she's talk about.

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<v Speaker 4>Gem similar on Trump, seventy four percent said they could

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<v Speaker 4>not stay with someone who rejects their views on social.

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<v Speaker 3>Justice, whatever that means.

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<v Speaker 4>As Thomas Soul has pointed out, anybody who says social

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<v Speaker 4>justice isn't talking about society or justice. Young women also

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<v Speaker 4>show greater reluc reluctance than men to datacross differences on immigration. Economically,

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<v Speaker 4>the divide grows sharper. This is the part I really

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to get to young women. Now, these are Brits, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>farther down the road to socialism, which is why they

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<v Speaker 4>have a moribund, stagnant the embarrassment of an economy and

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<v Speaker 4>military and everything else.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the road we're going now.

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<v Speaker 4>Young women give give capitalism rather really prefer the term

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<v Speaker 4>the free market.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm outvoted.

0:27:03.880 --> 0:27:06.840
<v Speaker 4>Young women give capitalism a net favorability rating of just

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<v Speaker 4>plus two, while communism scores plus eleven.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's ignorance, right, that's a not understanding what you're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about.

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<v Speaker 4>That is mountainous ignorance. That is our education system.

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<v Speaker 2>How does our education system not teach you about communism

0:27:26.280 --> 0:27:29.840
<v Speaker 2>since it's the deadliest ideology in world history.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, because at this point Neo Marxists are in charge

0:27:33.320 --> 0:27:34.720
<v Speaker 4>of our education system, I'm not.

0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:35.880
<v Speaker 3>Sure the last thing they want to teach.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure I ever learned about communism.

0:27:40.200 --> 0:27:43.359
<v Speaker 3>Oh, it wasn't certainly as it was.

0:27:43.640 --> 0:27:45.960
<v Speaker 4>It wasn't a big feature of education, although I grew

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<v Speaker 4>up knowing it.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just everywhere. Maybe it wasn't necessary. Maybe were

0:27:51.440 --> 0:27:53.800
<v Speaker 3>you You certainly were aware.

0:27:53.840 --> 0:27:55.560
<v Speaker 4>We grew up in little different parts of the country,

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<v Speaker 4>but you were aware of the Soviet you know, communism,

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<v Speaker 4>dirty commy scum pinkos.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe that's it. Maybe during the Cold War you

0:28:03.520 --> 0:28:05.840
<v Speaker 2>didn't teach it because everybody was bathed in it.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So, young women more favorable toward communism, which is

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<v Speaker 4>just so stupid and ignorant it's astonishing.

0:28:14.240 --> 0:28:14.840
<v Speaker 3>Young men.

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<v Speaker 4>On the other hand, great capitalism at plus twenty eight

0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:22.240
<v Speaker 4>percent plus two for the women, plus twenty eight for.

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<v Speaker 3>The young men.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, now you're all going to the same schools, so

0:28:24.840 --> 0:28:28.440
<v Speaker 2>that my theory is no good there. Then what's happening?

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<v Speaker 2>Well this keep in mind this is Britain.

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<v Speaker 4>I think part of it has to do with the

0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:37.120
<v Speaker 4>nature of women's psychology versus men. Men are much more

0:28:37.119 --> 0:28:41.320
<v Speaker 4>comfortable with I'm more than willing to take this on,

0:28:41.600 --> 0:28:43.760
<v Speaker 4>go at semi alone and fight for what I want,

0:28:43.760 --> 0:28:47.680
<v Speaker 4>whereas women are much more into forming coalitions and sharing.

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<v Speaker 4>It was long said the Republican Party was the daddy

0:28:51.360 --> 0:28:54.520
<v Speaker 4>party and the Democratic Party was the mommy party because

0:28:54.560 --> 0:28:57.600
<v Speaker 4>the Democratic Party won more income rey distribution and sharing

0:28:57.640 --> 0:28:59.280
<v Speaker 4>and being fair and the rest of it, and the

0:28:59.320 --> 0:29:02.560
<v Speaker 4>Republicans are like, give people freedom and let them make

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<v Speaker 4>of their lives what they will.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think that's just not as part of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Not sure they should have the vote women, yeah, will

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<v Speaker 4>take your calls.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's see.

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<v Speaker 4>On wealth redistribution, forty three percent of young women say

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<v Speaker 4>it is unfair that some people have more and that

0:29:19.680 --> 0:29:23.880
<v Speaker 4>wealth should be taken from them forty three percent. That's

0:29:24.000 --> 0:29:26.280
<v Speaker 4>three more than the percent who say people deserve to

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<v Speaker 4>keep what they earn.

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<v Speaker 3>Good Lord.

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<v Speaker 4>Young men are fifty one thirty seven in favor of

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<v Speaker 4>the sanity.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Young women are more likely to believe the economy works

0:29:41.080 --> 0:29:43.760
<v Speaker 4>against people like them. Yet among sixteen to twenty four

0:29:43.840 --> 0:29:45.680
<v Speaker 4>year olds, women to hold more full time jobs and

0:29:45.720 --> 0:29:48.240
<v Speaker 4>earn nine percent more on average than men in Britain now,

0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:52.240
<v Speaker 4>while male youth unemployment six is six point three percent

0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:55.560
<v Speaker 4>higher than the young women, And yet young women are

0:29:55.560 --> 0:30:00.280
<v Speaker 4>more likely to believe the economy works against women. Women

0:30:00.320 --> 0:30:03.960
<v Speaker 4>report lower happiness, ambition, excitement, and fulfillment than young men.

0:30:04.360 --> 0:30:07.160
<v Speaker 4>They are twenty one points less optimistic than men about

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<v Speaker 4>earning more than their parents, and nineteen percent less optimistic

0:30:10.440 --> 0:30:13.160
<v Speaker 4>about buying the home that they want than young men.

0:30:13.280 --> 0:30:17.560
<v Speaker 4>In the same society, only fifty three percent of gen

0:30:17.640 --> 0:30:20.240
<v Speaker 4>Z women say they're proud to call themselves British, compared

0:30:20.240 --> 0:30:22.760
<v Speaker 4>with sixty eight percent of the gen Z men.

0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:27.080
<v Speaker 2>Only half a woman are proud to be British. This

0:30:27.160 --> 0:30:31.920
<v Speaker 2>whole Western civilization hating itself thing is so weird and to.

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<v Speaker 4>Reinforce what you're saying, not to interrupt, but to reinforce. Affluent,

0:30:35.680 --> 0:30:38.400
<v Speaker 4>higher educated women prove the most left.

0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:39.720
<v Speaker 3>Wing and most pessimistic.

0:30:39.920 --> 0:30:46.520
<v Speaker 4>Of course, they have the higher numbers on communism, feminism, feminism, environmentalism, socialism,

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<v Speaker 4>slavery reparations, the view that the UK is racist or sexist,

0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:59.600
<v Speaker 4>absolutely amazing. Among Americans aged eighteen to twenty nine, forty

0:30:59.640 --> 0:31:02.280
<v Speaker 4>percent of young women identify as liberal, compared to twenty

0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:08.440
<v Speaker 4>five percent of young men. Let's see, that's only mildly interesting.

0:31:08.840 --> 0:31:11.360
<v Speaker 4>Then they go into some more of the American numbers,

0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:15.400
<v Speaker 4>which are quite similar to the British numbers, including mental

0:31:15.400 --> 0:31:21.280
<v Speaker 4>health diagnoses, which is Oh, the famous Pew research survey

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<v Speaker 4>that we talked about a lot that found that fifty

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<v Speaker 4>six percent of white liberal women age eighteen to twenty

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<v Speaker 4>nine reported a mental health diagnosis. Fifty six percent. Wow,

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<v Speaker 4>double the rate for conservative women the same age. Cart horse,

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<v Speaker 4>chicken egg. Nobody's doubly sure. Double is a lot. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>that's quite a disparity. Yeah, it's twenty eight to fifty six.

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<v Speaker 6>May prove that cows are way smarter than we thought.

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<v Speaker 6>Veronica the cow using a tool to scratch her back.

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<v Speaker 6>It looks like the studies author said, this marks the

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<v Speaker 6>first time on record that a mammal that wasn't a

0:33:33.920 --> 0:33:36.760
<v Speaker 6>primate has been documented using a tool.

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<v Speaker 4>Really, first, first question, NBC News sent Tom Yamas spelled

0:33:43.000 --> 0:33:45.720
<v Speaker 4>exactly the same as Lamas to report on a cow.

0:33:45.920 --> 0:33:47.640
<v Speaker 4>I don't think that's sick because he has the name

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<v Speaker 4>of a hooked creature?

0:33:48.600 --> 0:33:49.160
<v Speaker 3>Is that why?

0:33:49.600 --> 0:33:51.719
<v Speaker 4>It's like whenever the Asian people were mad at us,

0:33:51.720 --> 0:33:54.600
<v Speaker 4>they'd send an Asian reporter. If we said something provocative

0:33:54.640 --> 0:33:58.760
<v Speaker 4>about welfare programs in black neighborhoods, they send a black

0:33:58.800 --> 0:34:01.840
<v Speaker 4>reporter to talk about what fellas we are. It's just

0:34:01.880 --> 0:34:03.680
<v Speaker 4>a thing. Anyway, back to the cow.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the first documented case of anything other than primates

0:34:08.480 --> 0:34:11.000
<v Speaker 2>using a tool. I got to bring that up to

0:34:11.000 --> 0:34:13.080
<v Speaker 2>my son. He's super into this sort of thing. I

0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:14.960
<v Speaker 2>think he would say. Now, there's like eight other things

0:34:15.000 --> 0:34:16.880
<v Speaker 2>I can think of that use tools in a variety

0:34:16.920 --> 0:34:17.320
<v Speaker 2>of ways.

0:34:17.800 --> 0:34:18.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's correct.

0:34:19.040 --> 0:34:22.319
<v Speaker 4>I know ant eaters will put a stick in their

0:34:22.320 --> 0:34:24.759
<v Speaker 4>mouth and stick the stick down into the ant hole

0:34:25.560 --> 0:34:27.520
<v Speaker 4>and drop bunches of ants on the stick.

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<v Speaker 3>Ants on a stick delicious.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's an overstatement by these soft heads in the

0:34:32.160 --> 0:34:32.759
<v Speaker 4>Network News.

0:34:32.840 --> 0:34:35.200
<v Speaker 2>South American moles use typewriters, for instance.

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<v Speaker 4>It's surprising so Veronica is an Austrian cow. As a

0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:45.160
<v Speaker 4>matter of fact, in a khalb, I believe when she

0:34:45.239 --> 0:34:48.040
<v Speaker 4>has an itch, she scratches it by expertly wielding a stick.

0:34:48.080 --> 0:34:50.799
<v Speaker 4>But now in a new study, Veronica's demonstrating even more

0:34:50.840 --> 0:34:54.120
<v Speaker 4>advanced scratching skills, deploying different ends of a wooden broom

0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:58.279
<v Speaker 4>to different parts of her body to target different parts

0:34:58.320 --> 0:35:02.520
<v Speaker 4>of her body. It's an example of flexible tool use,

0:35:02.560 --> 0:35:03.879
<v Speaker 4>a behavior that is.

0:35:04.000 --> 0:35:06.200
<v Speaker 3>Relatively rare in the animal kingdom.

0:35:06.239 --> 0:35:09.239
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that might be a different category of tool use

0:35:09.280 --> 0:35:14.040
<v Speaker 2>than the other examples that exist out there, because that's

0:35:14.600 --> 0:35:18.040
<v Speaker 2>some you know that that requires some Should I not

0:35:18.080 --> 0:35:21.440
<v Speaker 2>be eating hamburgers? If a cow can think through, I

0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:23.120
<v Speaker 2>think I'll use the pointy end of the stick for

0:35:23.200 --> 0:35:25.879
<v Speaker 2>this itch. But for this itch, I think the round

0:35:26.000 --> 0:35:27.840
<v Speaker 2>end of the stick would work better. I mean that

0:35:28.120 --> 0:35:30.120
<v Speaker 2>sort of thinking. I don't know if I should be

0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:34.000
<v Speaker 2>eating you deliciously mean hum rare like I do. I

0:35:34.040 --> 0:35:35.640
<v Speaker 2>am slightly cautious.

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<v Speaker 4>That there may be an element of that in this,

0:35:39.080 --> 0:35:43.040
<v Speaker 4>because this doctor who's studying Veronica at the cow says

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<v Speaker 4>that it doesn't matter.

0:35:44.000 --> 0:35:47.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't care if they can recite Shakespeare. I'm still

0:35:47.680 --> 0:35:49.200
<v Speaker 2>going to eat them. I mean, it would make you

0:35:49.239 --> 0:35:50.320
<v Speaker 2>a monster. It's kidding.

0:35:50.920 --> 0:35:53.000
<v Speaker 4>But the doctor says that should give us some paws

0:35:53.040 --> 0:35:57.200
<v Speaker 4>and perhaps also motivate us to look at livestock animals differently.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we should eat more, keep them in control

0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:03.200
<v Speaker 2>exactly laco, let them know whose boss. If Herford cattle

0:36:03.320 --> 0:36:06.160
<v Speaker 2>could drive cars and recite Shakespeare, still eat them, so

0:36:06.360 --> 0:36:07.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, come on, I'm not pretending that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I think there may be a little activism here,

0:36:12.640 --> 0:36:13.719
<v Speaker 4>but it could be.

0:36:14.520 --> 0:36:14.719
<v Speaker 3>Well.

0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:16.840
<v Speaker 4>The more I read The New York Times, in contrast

0:36:16.840 --> 0:36:19.240
<v Speaker 4>to the NBC News, has actually quite a long article

0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:22.400
<v Speaker 4>about this, far too long. Honestly, as long as cow's

0:36:22.440 --> 0:36:26.400
<v Speaker 4>been doing their cow thing around people, How is this

0:36:26.440 --> 0:36:29.319
<v Speaker 4>the first time we've ever discovered their tool use? I

0:36:29.360 --> 0:36:31.680
<v Speaker 4>don't know they say one difference, maybe that this cow

0:36:31.800 --> 0:36:33.759
<v Speaker 4>is a pet and not a production animal, so it

0:36:33.760 --> 0:36:38.000
<v Speaker 4>has time to enlarge. It's, you know, enrich itself and

0:36:38.080 --> 0:36:41.480
<v Speaker 4>read the great books and then come up with novel.

0:36:41.280 --> 0:36:45.759
<v Speaker 3>Uses for steaks. Read the great books. Yeah, I don't,

0:36:45.800 --> 0:36:46.279
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I learned this from Thucydides. There's the sharp end of

0:36:49.520 --> 0:36:52.240
<v Speaker 2>the stick, and you got an itch on your roump.

0:36:52.760 --> 0:36:54.919
<v Speaker 2>You got a bad itch. He used the sharpen, which,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, is the most delicious part of me.

0:36:59.200 --> 0:37:05.000
<v Speaker 2>On Yes, good news bad news for me. I can

0:37:05.000 --> 0:37:07.120
<v Speaker 2>now itach my bad news. It's delicious.

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<v Speaker 4>Speaking of stupidity, I mentioned this in the very beginning

0:37:11.200 --> 0:37:14.759
<v Speaker 4>of the show that some New York PD detectives had

0:37:14.760 --> 0:37:17.319
<v Speaker 4>to go to the hospital because they were arresting a

0:37:17.360 --> 0:37:20.359
<v Speaker 4>really bad guy who fought them and hurt a couple

0:37:20.440 --> 0:37:24.000
<v Speaker 4>of the cops. They go to the hospital and hospital

0:37:24.040 --> 0:37:26.520
<v Speaker 4>staff were nasty to them in the waiting room, accused

0:37:26.560 --> 0:37:29.000
<v Speaker 4>them of being ice officers and suggested why don't you

0:37:29.120 --> 0:37:32.920
<v Speaker 4>go somewhere else, so they properly identified themselves, and the

0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:37.400
<v Speaker 4>New York PD is obviously pissed off about this, the

0:37:37.480 --> 0:37:41.439
<v Speaker 4>commissioners insisting all hospital staff he retrained. Blah blah blah.

0:37:41.480 --> 0:37:48.080
<v Speaker 4>This is my favorite part. The hospital blamed. Where is

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<v Speaker 4>the phrase? Oh, the hospital said, the hospital staff had

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<v Speaker 4>a misunderstanding of their policy. Oh so we're not supposed

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<v Speaker 4>to be rate cops when they show up and tell

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<v Speaker 4>them to get the hell out and go somewhere else

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<v Speaker 4>because we hate them. Deny keep getting that wrong, Deny

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<v Speaker 4>them medical care. We will give medical care to anybody

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<v Speaker 4>from any country who's done anything at taxpayers expense. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>but now we want help that the cops who are

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<v Speaker 4>enforcing federal immigration law.

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Armstrong and Joe Gatty The Armstrong and Getty Show