WEBVTT - CDC Panel Recommends That First Responders and Other Essential Works Be Next in Line for Coronavirus Vaccines

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<v Speaker 1>It's Tuesday, December two. I'm Oscar Ramirez from the Daily

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<v Speaker 1>Dive podcast in Los Angeles, and this is reopening America.

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<v Speaker 1>The CDC panel over the weekend has made its recommendations

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<v Speaker 1>on who is next in line to receive the two

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<v Speaker 1>vaccines we have available so far. What it's called Phase

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<v Speaker 1>one B. We'll see first responders such as police and firefighters,

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<v Speaker 1>other frontline workers like teachers and grocery workers, and people

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<v Speaker 1>over seventy five get the vaccine. Karen Wintrout, health reporter

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<v Speaker 1>at USA Today joins us for who's next in getting

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<v Speaker 1>the Maderna and Fiser vaccine. Thanks for joining us, Karen,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for having me. A CDC panel met over the

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<v Speaker 1>weekend to give their recommendations for who should be next

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<v Speaker 1>in line for the vaccine. We have two vaccines out

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<v Speaker 1>right now, one from five or one from Madernner. They're

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<v Speaker 1>very similar vaccines. We've talked about them a lot before,

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<v Speaker 1>these m RINA vaccines. So the first people that were

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<v Speaker 1>recommended to get these vaccines the Phase one A, we're

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<v Speaker 1>front line healthcare workers and people in long term health

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<v Speaker 1>care facilities. Now we're going to Phase one B. This

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna be police, firefighters, teachers, and other essential frontline

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<v Speaker 1>essential workers like grocery store workers. So, Karen, tell us

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<v Speaker 1>what happened at the c d C meeting and what

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<v Speaker 1>they were recommending. So this committee makes the decisions, makes

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<v Speaker 1>the recommendations as to who should get the vaccine in

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<v Speaker 1>what order, and they did exactly what you just said.

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<v Speaker 1>They recommended that people who are on the front lines,

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<v Speaker 1>who can't stay home and keep themselves safe, being the

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<v Speaker 1>next group of people. So as you said, teachers, grocery

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<v Speaker 1>store clerks, firefighters, that sort of thing, and also people

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<v Speaker 1>over seventy, so again the people at highest risk for

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<v Speaker 1>poor outcomes if they catch COVID. And to put this

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<v Speaker 1>all in perspective, you know, obviously we're doing this because

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<v Speaker 1>doses of the vaccine are in limited capacity. This phase

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<v Speaker 1>that we're talking about right now, Phase one B, the

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<v Speaker 1>second phase isn't supposed to start until February, right, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that will probably start sooner than that. So what

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<v Speaker 1>they said today was twenty million doses in December. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that will cover hospital workers and people in nursing homes,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the next round will start at some point

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<v Speaker 1>in January. We don't have a date yet. And they'll

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<v Speaker 1>be thirty million doses available in January, so thirty million

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<v Speaker 1>more people will be able to get vaccinated in January,

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<v Speaker 1>and the twenty million who got vaccinated in December for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time, we'll be able to get their second

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<v Speaker 1>shot in January. We've talked about this before. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>states have the final say and who will get the

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<v Speaker 1>vaccine next. These are just recommendations, but these are really

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<v Speaker 1>difficult decisions and things to play out, things to go

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<v Speaker 1>through on who should be next, and they make the

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<v Speaker 1>recommendations at the local level. You know, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people can be angry or maybe say, hey, you're leaving

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<v Speaker 1>other people out, things like that, but just talk a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about how difficult some of these decisions could be.

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<v Speaker 1>To me. One of the trickiest is prisoners, people who

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<v Speaker 1>are behind bars. So obviously, you know, we want to

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<v Speaker 1>protect upstanding citizens first, but there's been huge outbreaks in

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<v Speaker 1>prisons around the country and their outcomes are much worse

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<v Speaker 1>than they are in the general population. And also people

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<v Speaker 1>from the public come into these prisons, prison guards, visitors,

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<v Speaker 1>that sort of thing. So what happens in the prison

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't necessarily stay in the prison. So the question is

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<v Speaker 1>when do you vaccinate them? Do you vaccinate them now

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<v Speaker 1>as you vaccinate nursing home residents and other people in

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<v Speaker 1>congregate settings, in group settings, or do you wait until later.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw that correction workers are in this phase one,

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<v Speaker 1>b our prisoners in that category as well. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's pretty much up to the states. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>they're saying you have to put them in one group

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<v Speaker 1>or another. Some states have already begun in the first group,

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<v Speaker 1>and other states are saying, no way, we don't want

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<v Speaker 1>them that early. So it really is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a state by state decision there. The panel did also

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<v Speaker 1>recommend the phase after that, Phase one C, and in

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<v Speaker 1>there you get you know, public health workers, food service workers,

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<v Speaker 1>construction workers, media workers, and a few others. Those are

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<v Speaker 1>people again who can't exclusively stay home, whose jobs take

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<v Speaker 1>them not into a high risk situation, but into a

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<v Speaker 1>situation where they come into contact with other people. Where

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<v Speaker 1>do people get in line for these vaccines and prove

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<v Speaker 1>that they are who they are, that they are one

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<v Speaker 1>of these front line workers. Do they go through their employers,

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<v Speaker 1>are they going through their healthcare providers? How do they

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<v Speaker 1>get in line for these You know, I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>that's entirely clear yet. It's very easy with this first round.

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<v Speaker 1>You know the hospital is going to vaccinate hospital workers,

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<v Speaker 1>the nursing home is going to vaccinate its workers and

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<v Speaker 1>its residents. Once you get into a broader population, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. Am I gonna have to show my USA today?

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<v Speaker 1>I d to get vaccinated right and you know I

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<v Speaker 1>should be able to go theoretically to the Walgreens down

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<v Speaker 1>the street and get that. So could you sneak in early?

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<v Speaker 1>It's possible that you could, certainly with the age requirements,

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<v Speaker 1>so the next group is over seventy The group after

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<v Speaker 1>that one C is sixty to seventy four, so that

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<v Speaker 1>you could use a driver's license to show your age.

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<v Speaker 1>For people who have comorbilities, who have other illnesses, high

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<v Speaker 1>risk medical conditions. If you walk up to a pharmacist

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<v Speaker 1>and say I have diabetes I need a shot, are

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<v Speaker 1>they going to question that? It seems unly. It seems

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<v Speaker 1>like there'll be a lot of trust involved. I did

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<v Speaker 1>have a question about the Fiser vaccine because the National

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<v Speaker 1>Institutes of Health is looking for people to study those

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<v Speaker 1>that have severe allergic reactions to the Fiser vaccine. I

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<v Speaker 1>know there was a couple of cases in the UK,

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<v Speaker 1>and the first day of the rollout there was a

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<v Speaker 1>few cases that have happened here in the United States

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<v Speaker 1>as well. So the n i H is looking to

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<v Speaker 1>find people so they can study this to see what

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<v Speaker 1>might be causing all of that. So that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>what they have to do when they see a problem

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<v Speaker 1>is get other people, kind of put them at risk

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<v Speaker 1>in order to understand the problem. It's scary. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure I would volunteer for that, but I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>certainly they'll have EpiPens and everything necessary, excuse me, to

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<v Speaker 1>help people if they get into a bad situation. Is

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<v Speaker 1>it as simple as just giving somebody an EpiPen to

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<v Speaker 1>get them out of their allergic reaction or is there

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more that goes into that that actually seems

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<v Speaker 1>to be the solution. I mean, sometimes I think with

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<v Speaker 1>one of the four people you just mentioned needed a

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<v Speaker 1>second EpiPen the second shot. But in general that solves

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<v Speaker 1>the problem. But it's not fun from what I understand

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<v Speaker 1>from frankly giving themselves. It's a shot, it's quite unpleasant

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<v Speaker 1>and um, you know, probably takes you a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>days to recover. So it's not like a sneeze, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's a it's a major medical situation, and

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<v Speaker 1>they are going to be doing these things in medical settings.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm sure it's gonna be tough to find people,

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<v Speaker 1>as you say, that are gonna be willing to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of put themselves through that. It goes that way. So

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<v Speaker 1>we'll monitor all that and uh, we'll see how these

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<v Speaker 1>rollouts of the vaccines continue to go in the US.

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<v Speaker 1>Karen Weintrout, health reporter at USA Today, thank you very

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<v Speaker 1>much for joining us. Thank you so much. I'm Ostar

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