WEBVTT - Operation Pridefall, Groomers, and Kink at Pride: Part 2 0:00:04.760 --> 0:00:06.760 Welcome back to Get Happen here. This is part two 0:00:06.840 --> 0:00:11.040 of our discussion on the oppression Pride fall and they 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:13.720 kick Get Kick get Pride discourse and the grimmer stuff 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:17.040 and how they all combine in this really horrifying really 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:22.759 the way that I wish they didn't because it's pretty frustrating. So, uh, 0:00:22.960 --> 0:00:25.680 last episode I talked towards the end, I talked to 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:30.240 a decent amount about tender queers um, and I actually 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:32.480 would like would like to define this term here um 0:00:32.520 --> 0:00:35.880 and kind of get into why these why these people 0:00:36.000 --> 0:00:40.920 are boosting these specific like talking points that are just 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:44.440 kind of regurgitate old types of homophobic stuff. They claim 0:00:44.479 --> 0:00:47.720 it doesn't, but like it does. You're using this exact 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:51.040 same logic, you're just kind of reframing it. So tender 0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:53.840 queers are this this the type of like they're kind 0:00:53.840 --> 0:00:56.000 of like an in joke for like the queer community 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:59.600 of this personality type. Generally, the tender queers are like 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:02.720 a you know, typically a gen Z or a millennial queer, 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:06.240 more likely to be like fem, whether that be like 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:10.959 a woman non binary or fem person lesbians, uh, you know, 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:14.480 fem bisexuals, pan sexuals, or like queer soft boys kind 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:19.200 of they feature this like combination of personality designation an aesthetic, 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:22.880 and they're known for being especially adapt at using like 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:26.080 watery language of therapy as a means to like get 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:29.399 out of most things. Um Ever, everything's about like holding 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:34.360 space and healing and intimacy, and it's like it's wrapped 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:38.360 up in this like jovial pastel bubbly package. Right. If 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:42.640 you throw in some astrology some like coturoy overalls, shaved 0:01:42.680 --> 0:01:45.120 heads and round glasses, and you've got yourself like a 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:48.120 basic tender queer. And a little quote here from an 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:52.240 author named Daisy Jones from an article that they made 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:56.040 quote just like the straight soft boy who uses performative 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:59.320 sensitivity to get away with being a little shit, sometimes 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:03.640 so do the tender queer. Tender queer generally refers to 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:06.080 a trope in the queer community of a queer person 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:09.639 who presents themselves as being sensitive, hyper vocal of their feelings, 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:14.160 sometimes thought of as prioritizing feelings and hyper intentional language 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:18.799 over their own harm and privilege. So they kind of 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:22.680 use like identity politics to avoid accountability. There's like this 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:28.320 um competitive oppression and self victimization. They center themselves and 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:31.919 their feelings in social or political movements that aren't necessarily 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:35.840 about them. They kind of they prioritize in effective methods 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:39.120 of self care. They utilize like gas lighting and dumping 0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:42.560 the emotional labor of dealing with your own self onto 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:46.119 onto others. Like tender queers are kind of they're they're 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:51.240 known to like mask toxicity and manipulativeness in the performative 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:54.120 language and aesthetics of social justice. They have this like 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:58.840 performative soft hypersensitivity and use identity politics to kind of 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:02.799 call out avoid things that make them uncomfortable and will 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:06.480 like and will publicly declare those things as problematic in 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:09.320 an attempt to force others to conform with their own will. 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:12.200 So that's why I describe a lot of these like 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:17.800 younger younger teens um who who use these talking points 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:21.760 against against quote unquote kink at pride as tender queers, 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:25.080 because like they're people who are really sensitive about what 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:29.360 makes them comfortable, and they avoid any they try to 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:33.520 avoid or campaign against anything that makes them uncomfortable, and 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:36.800 they use all these like performative turns of phrase and 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:40.840 talking points to to avoid having actual discussions about it. 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:43.840 It's just like weaponization of their marginalized identity as a 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:47.360 shield to avoid accountability or to deflect against people challenging 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:50.880 them for abusive behavior or in in the in the 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:54.840 in like the Pride case, this like internalized homophobia. Uh 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:59.440 there's there's the these little little tweet exchange for some 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:03.520 from some people on the superviral keeck a Pride post 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:06.280 from a month ago. Um, I'm fourteen and I don't 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:08.800 want to see a half naked person in leather straps 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:11.280 and a gag and an event. I take my family too. 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:15.000 And someone replied, like, try glancing Eddie Marty Gras or 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:18.479 even a public beach before you apply homophobic double standards. 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:23.919 And then they the poster replied, you think I'm homophobic, 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:28.120 I'm literally a trans non binary lesbian. So again this 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:31.680 is this is this is this is what I mean 0:04:31.920 --> 0:04:34.200 when I when I when I talk about title queers. Right, 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:37.440 there's someone's calling them out for applying this homophobic double 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:40.880 standard on how they view like public semi unity, right, 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:43.080 not even like full nunity, just like how they view 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:46.320 public semi nunity like a bikini or something, right, And 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:49.680 then they respond by saying, I'm literally a trans done 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:53.240 binary lesbian UM and then went out to say, also, 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:56.279 people at those don't wear kinkshit, and it's why I 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:58.720 don't go to Marty Gras or large public beaches. It 0:04:58.720 --> 0:05:01.560 makes me uncomfortable sing a bunch of adults and kinkshit 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:05.320 being sexual just physically makes me ill. People at Marty 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:07.920 Gros on public beaches don't act sexual or wear kinkshit, 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:14.680 And so like, I feel like you haven't been to 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:19.200 Marty grass Like you will see way more skinned at 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:22.880 a public beach. Most kinkshit require like requires covering your 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:26.200 body and a lot of extra stuff, like if you're 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:29.640 wearing a harness or like a latex full leather outfit, 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:32.640 you're like showing way less skin than someone wearing a 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:36.640 spiedo or a bikini. So maybe you're just uncomfortable with 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:39.919 people expressing their sexuality, which, in case, don't go to 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:42.320 Pride because that's what Pride is all about, that's the 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:47.240 entire poot. But yeah, little the w I'm literally a 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:50.200 trans non binary lesbian. Like that's like such a perfect 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:52.680 encapsulation of what the tender queer kind of trope is 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:55.719 UM and like not not not not many people like 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:59.440 self self identify as as Tinder queer as it's kind 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:02.559 of this joe that the more kind of punky queer 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:06.080 community has kind of it's like an we're putting a 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:10.560 label on this, this behavioral trend that we've observed, and 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:12.159 it's it's kind of a joke, right, I'm not trying 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:15.400 to call out specific people. I'm not. If you're soft 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:19.480 and emotional sensitive, cool whatever, do whatever you want. I'm fine, 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:22.839 Just don't don't use these things as a shield to 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:27.599 justify forcing your will onto other people. It's cool to 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:31.440 not It's totally fine to like not like people being 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:35.479 publicly affectionate or like doing public like It's perfectly fine 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:38.000 to be uncomfortable with that. It's perfectly like. That doesn't 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:39.920 mean anything bad. It doesn't mean you're a prude, it 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:43.000 doesn't mean there's anything wrong with you. But like, there's 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:45.880 nothing wrong with people wanting to be public with that 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:49.120 at a public event, celebrating the fact that it's they 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:54.200 are now less oppressed for doing that thing, like yeah, 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:57.440 or a beach or Mardi Gras, and like, make sure 0:06:57.520 --> 0:07:00.400 you're cognizant if you're engaging in any kind of like 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:05.679 socially normalized ideas of like straight stuff is inherently less 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:08.880 sexual than gay stuff, right, I always, I mean I 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:11.200 advocate people being able to like get into their own 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:13.440 head and figure out why they think certain things like this. 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:17.400 It's it's this idea of meta thoughts, trying trying to 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:20.520 think about why you think about things. Um So, if 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:24.440 you if you're if you're more uncomfortable with two men kissing, 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:28.000 then you are with than one man and a woman kissing, 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:30.000 you should think about that. You should be like even 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:33.200 even as like even as a trans non buyinary lesbian, 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:36.440 if you if you if if you're more if you're 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:39.120 more uncomfortable looking at two men kiss you should think 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:42.440 about why, why, what social conditioning has caused this to happen? 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:44.600 Because that's something that people have been pushing for a 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:47.120 long time, is that, yeah, gay stuff is like more 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:50.440 adult or more mature than queer stuff. I think that's 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:52.520 a big part of of of these types of things 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:56.720 being at prized like pushing back on that idea. Um So, 0:07:57.680 --> 0:08:00.160 like I think and the reason why we see more 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:02.559 of these now is like there are these baby tender 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:04.480 queers who grew up in a world where you were 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:07.760 less likely to get fucking assaulted for being gay while 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:09.720 also growing up on the Internet in the age of 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:13.080 tumbler and Instagram. Right, these kids were able to construct 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:17.239 their own comfortable, safe, bubbled versions of reality online, only 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:19.840 being exposed to what they want when they want, right 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:21.640 they get they get to only view it things that 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:25.880 they find esthetically pleasing, and the pandemic certainly heightened this 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:28.800 right with people being forced to solely exist in their 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:32.520 self catered online worlds. So now with the outside world 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:35.719 opening up, some of these soft baby tender queers are 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:38.080 going through puberty and are dealing with their quote unquote 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:42.680 uncomfy feelings UM and the added notion of being exposed 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:45.280 to things that you have specifically not sought out like 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:48.400 that that causes them to be uncomfortable. Right, if if 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:50.960 you're if you're if you're a FEMI person who has 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:54.800 just attracted to other FEMI people, having to having to 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:56.960 look at dudes be affection It may not be your 0:08:57.000 --> 0:09:01.480 cup of tea, but and who may not like enjoy it, 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:04.880 But that's like, it's just as queer as you are, 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:08.480 So if you shouldn't. You can't prioritize your queerness over 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:15.280 somebody else's UM. It's it's, it's it's it's. It's like 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:18.680 there's this collection of baby gates that gets uncomfortable being 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:21.760 reminded that people like especially people whom they are not 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:25.800 personally attracted to, have sex. It's like if they're reminded 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:28.960 that this happens and they don't like it. Um, it's 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:30.680 like it feels like they have this sort of like 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:34.000 anxiety just about about just looking at something that they 0:09:34.040 --> 0:09:37.840 perceive as sexual in nature. Right, and for this, for them, 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:41.839 this includes other but two differently queer people wearing leather 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:45.560 or being semi nude, like dudes being shirtless or women 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:48.000 being shirtless. For like, I think that that's a whole 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:52.760 other double standard that should be uh pushed back upon. Um. 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:55.960 But like again, it's pride. It's not any more naked 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:58.840 than people at the beach. Uh, So you're not. It's not. 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:02.120 Actually if they're very selective in the types of things 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:04.800 that they that they will that they will focus on. 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:07.720 And it plays into this notion that's used by all 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:12.760 like anti gay legislation, that gayness is inherently more sexual 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:15.360 than being straight. Right, It's it's it's it's more sexual, 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:17.960 it's more mature. It's more adult, uh because for a 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:21.640 long time, being gay was exclusively seen as like a 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:26.520 hyper sexual, deving act um, And now, especially among gen 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:31.480 Z baby queers, being queer is now less tied to 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:34.160 specifically the act of sex. Right. Queerness is much more 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:37.760 of an like an overarching personal identity now, especially as 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:39.720 like as an intersex with like gender and stuff, right, 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:42.120 you know, whether that being on binary or this other 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:45.079 stuff like pan sexual, bisexual, what have you. But to 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:48.439 kind of circle back to the Kinker Pride stuff, people 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:51.240 want us dead for being queer. Uh, it doesn't mad 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:54.400 if someone's parading around in a collar. If you're uncomfortable, 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:57.640 you should maybe learned to fight, actually fight back into 0:10:57.679 --> 0:11:00.360 people who actually want to kill you. Like Pride was 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:02.600 a riot, you should you should sort out your uncomfy 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:06.120 feelings elsewhere or director or director uncomfy feelings that the 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:10.440 people attacking us. So maybe maybe don't prop up kin 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:15.120 get Pride discourse when accusations of queer people being all 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:17.160 groomers is that is at an all time high and 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:20.200 there's fascists organizing to like shoot us at Pride marches, 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:23.400 So maybe consider that before you do discourse on Twitter 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:25.640 dot com. I'm I'm gonna do one little quote and 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:27.800 then we will have an ad break. Just gonna end 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:31.960 this section with a quote from them dot com again. Quote. Kinks, 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:35.080 sex and protests are all inherent parts of Pride. One 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:38.240 of the core tenets of Pride is liberation and working 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:42.240 against cultural shaming. Calling to quote not perform your kinks 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:45.480 and fetishes at Pride because some miners are there and 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:49.280 King can quote sexualize the event unquote uh implies that 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:53.360 celebrating sexuality and kink is openly bad, and normalizing these 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:55.920 things should be a goal of Pride. B D s 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:59.319 M subversus sexuality and leather culture have enjoyed a long 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:02.080 history within lgbt Q rights movement, and such public space 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:05.440 of sexuality are driven by much more than libido or 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:08.800 countercultural impulses. They're an inherent expression of queer culture and 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:11.720 queer sexuality, and as such deserve a place at Pride 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:24.680 as much as anything else. Okay, and now it's time 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:27.239 to actually get into what the title of these episodes 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:31.520 is about. Uh, the operation Pride fell stuff. We're gonna 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:36.559 talk about this thing that sucks. Um. So, whether you're 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:39.240 looking at the conservative groom or discourse or the tender 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:41.600 Queer can Get Pride discourse. You'll see a lot of 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:43.880 the same logic as well as a lot of the 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:48.320 same photos. We've We've talked a lot about memes on 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:50.280 the show, and I'm not gonna get I'm not gonna 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:53.400 get into like the powder memes very much right now, 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:57.040 but suffice to say that like a picture can stick 0:12:57.080 --> 0:12:58.960 in your head a lot easier than a bunch of 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:01.760 words can. Um and throughout the groomware and kick it 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:04.920 pride shit. There are a few select photos that people 0:13:05.040 --> 0:13:08.160 use to demonstrate their opinions on how gay people are 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:13.120 a threat to children. Um. Either either there's just pictures 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:17.000 of adults and like kink associated garb, usually like full 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:21.320 latex body suits or pup masks UM or UH. And 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:25.040 there's the specifically like uh. There's these two specific pictures 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:27.679 of kids just like standing next to adults who are 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:30.160 wearing pop masks that get used a lot. There's also 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:32.240 there's also a lot of pictures of like drag queen 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:36.640 story time and whenever whenever I see any of these 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:39.360 very specific pictures, I flashed back to when I first 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:42.679 came across the original Operation Pridefall four Chune thread back 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:45.960 in because these are actually all of all of the 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:49.720 exact same pictures, um so. Operation Pride Fall was a 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:53.880 cyber harassment campaign started on Fourtune targeting the degeneracy of 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:57.560 the LGBTQ community by attempting to sway public opinion against 0:13:57.640 --> 0:14:01.439 queer people by linking being gay to grooming and pedophilia, 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:07.960 so checking back in oh boy, oh boy, has has 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:12.120 things happened? So? Initially organized on four Chune, discord and 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:15.480 telegram right before Pride Month, the campaign set out targets 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:19.360 and methods to flood the social media platforms of gay venues, 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:24.480 Pride sponsors, and LGBTQ people or supporters with spam, anti 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:28.520 game memes and media, usually photos intended to imply a 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:31.600 link between being openly queer and the grooming of children 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:35.120 uh and operating online under the banner of Operation Pride Fall. 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:38.920 The campaign started on May ten, when an anonymous four 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:43.520 champ poster posted a thread on poll outlining Operation Pride Fall, 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:48.160 which was pitching it as a crowdsourced campaign aimed at 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:53.560 damaging the LGBTQ community during the month of June. The 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:57.240 plan centered around quote unquote red pilling users in the 0:14:57.360 --> 0:15:01.040 commons sections of companies that support l l g B 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:05.040 t Q causes on social media. The four Chum post 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:09.240 read quote every June, hundreds of massive corporations banned together 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:13.640 to smother social media in posts in flavor of Pride Month, 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:17.280 a code word for the degeneracy that is LGBT activism. 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:20.120 Many of these accounts are rather small and get very 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:23.960 little engagement, yet they continue to post without backlashed beginning 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:26.280 on June one. The goal of Operation Pride Fall is 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:29.400 to get on Twitter, Instagram, etcetera, and drop a ship 0:15:29.520 --> 0:15:33.320 ton of disturbing red pills on homosexuality on the comments 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:37.320 of the lesser known pages. The bigger pages are okay targets, 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:40.240 but posts tend to get unnoticed in the sea of 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:43.920 other comments. Commenting on smaller pages, ones with less than 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:46.640 one hundred likes and so means anyone who've used it 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:50.240 will see the posts, and companies will reconsider their pro 0:15:50.480 --> 0:15:55.480 pride posts afterwards. Unquote. So if you scroll through the 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:59.640 archived initial like Pride Fall thread, you'll see a crowdsourced 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:03.480 collect of pictures that they intended to flood the internet with. 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:08.840 Under in the comment section of posts, discussing Pride or 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:13.680 discussing LGBTQ activism or whatever. Um. So in this, in 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:16.080 this like crowdsourced collection of photos, we see a lot 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:19.760 of drag queen storytime stuff. But many of these pictures 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:22.760 and memes are now the same ones used both in 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:25.680 the recent Groomer thing and in the past two years 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:29.200 of kink Get Pride discourse. It's it's the exact it's 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:32.640 the exact same photos. Um It's there's like, there's there's 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:35.440 hundreds of them. There's hundreds of of photos of like 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:39.320 you know, people in pop masks whatever, like waving waving 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:42.200 Pride flags. It's it's just there's a lot. There's a 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:45.520 lot of them, and the specific ones get used for 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:49.440 so much of the Groomer ship. Uh. And they really 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:53.960 started to gain much more visibility during after the Operation 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:56.640 Pride Fall thing got launched. The Opertion Pride Fall of 0:16:56.640 --> 0:16:59.000 four tun' thread also instructed users and how to set 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:02.520 up a fake phone numbers, to make burner accounts to 0:17:02.760 --> 0:17:05.960 to comment on these on these social media pages. Um 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:10.280 There's another really interesting part that the Operation Pride Fall 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:15.840 planning stuff detailed was on on on discord on the opertion, 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:20.359 pride fall servers and channels. The users were planning to 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:25.159 repurpose cringe e TikTok videos while relabeling them with anti 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:30.200 lgbt Q captions and hashtags. Uh, here's a here's a 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:33.320 quote from there, from their from their planning planning discord. 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:37.000 An additional idea, we can read pool zoomers on TikTok 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:40.119 and literally build a fucking puppet army to funk the 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:43.240 ship out of millennials. We should expand this operation to 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:45.680 as many social media outlets as possible in order to 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:49.920 maximize effort. Let's operate like this on TikTok, convince any 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:52.480 gen z sibling or relatives to do some kind of 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:57.200 shitty jester charade slash horror dance, and then add lgbt 0:17:57.320 --> 0:18:00.040 Q critical captions on top of it and repost it 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:04.520 under trending hashtags. So you see elements of this exact 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:08.920 strategy mirrored one year later in lives of TikTok by 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:13.560 getting videos of people being I don't know kids and 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:15.960 like kind of cringe because kids are kind of cringe e, 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:19.680 but videos of kids on TikTok and mischaracterizing you know, 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:23.240 TikTok videos and adding adding lgbt Q talking points on 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:25.560 top of them, uh, to sway the public opinion of 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:28.239 queer people. It's the It's the exact same strategy as 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:31.359 as a similar idea was also implemented alongside setting up 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:34.400 fake dating app profiles do not only spread their anti 0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:37.480 gay kind of grooming memes, but also to farm vital 0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:40.280 content by catfishing gay people and getting them to like 0:18:40.560 --> 0:18:45.639 be an embarrassing interactions. Uh. Another quote on Tinder, Bumble 0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:49.320 and Grinder set up freak profiles with legit convincing images 0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:53.440 and descriptions that criticized lgbt So it's this, it's trying 0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:56.520 to catfish queer people and like, then I guess span 0:18:56.680 --> 0:19:00.760 them with pictures of these like grooming memes, um, and 0:19:00.880 --> 0:19:03.120 see what their reaction is then post it. Right. It's 0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:08.199 so the whole Operation Pride Fall strategy might appear pretty simple, Right, 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:11.240 it's like basically glorified ship posting, setting up a bunch 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:14.080 of fakes accounts and demonizing queer people in the common 0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:17.480 section of small corporations and influencers. There definitely is a 0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:19.239 lot more to it than that, right, There was there 0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:22.480 was this element of like planned escalation starting off first 0:19:22.560 --> 0:19:25.760 as like appearing as reasonable commenters, right, acting in very 0:19:25.800 --> 0:19:30.080 good faith, just as somebody concerned by kids being exposed 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:33.119 to to sexual materials would, whether that be you know, 0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:37.320 people in drag at a library reading books or people 0:19:37.800 --> 0:19:41.160 at a Pride parade. Right. So instead of immediately going 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:45.520 on like full gay bashing, uh, saying that we should 0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:48.840 you know, kill all deviant trans people, which a lot 0:19:48.920 --> 0:19:51.959 of conservative comment hitters just say now, like Alijah Schaeffer 0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:55.840 who just posts memes about wanting to kill trans kids. Um. 0:19:56.520 --> 0:20:01.000 These these these board fascists, unfortune tried to coordinate a slow, 0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:04.600 more insidious approach, which they would hope would just gradually 0:20:04.720 --> 0:20:09.000 turn the tide of public opinion against queer people. Here's 0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:10.760 a Here's the snippet from one of the Pride Fall 0:20:10.840 --> 0:20:15.040 organizing chats. Quote, keep it normal, palatable, and friendly. This 0:20:15.240 --> 0:20:18.040 means no Nazi or Hitler ship. The goal is to 0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:21.440 make them question whether what they're supporting is really the 0:20:21.560 --> 0:20:25.159 right thing. So as as as Pride Months progressed the 0:20:25.400 --> 0:20:29.200 the the Pride Fall participants coordinated on four chane discord 0:20:29.280 --> 0:20:33.240 and telegram to slowly increase the frequency and intensity of 0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:37.080 the campaign another quote from the organizing chat quote, think 0:20:37.080 --> 0:20:41.120 about it as waves day one is simply questioning homosexuality, 0:20:41.160 --> 0:20:43.080 and then as the days goes on, it will get 0:20:43.119 --> 0:20:47.439 worse and worse until the end of Pride Month. So uh. 0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:50.080 In terms of physical things that actually had UH, I 0:20:50.160 --> 0:20:53.040 believe opportion Pride Fall resulted in a few gay events 0:20:53.080 --> 0:20:55.440 getting shut down. There was like this event and I 0:20:55.520 --> 0:20:57.280 think it was it was like a like at a 0:20:57.359 --> 0:20:59.880 queer nightclub in the UK that that got shut down. 0:21:00.160 --> 0:21:02.920 There was a few other like like obviously like material 0:21:04.200 --> 0:21:07.040 results that that they had by doing this harassment campaign 0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:10.800 against venues and corporations. But I think they's they were 0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:15.160 more successful in first of all, spreading specific memetic images 0:21:15.240 --> 0:21:18.600 that are now commonly used in their grooming stuff and 0:21:18.920 --> 0:21:21.440 in the kink of Pride stuff some some of which 0:21:21.520 --> 0:21:24.000 these images were not really used in discourse before but 0:21:24.080 --> 0:21:26.840 now are commonplace. I think that that's really where more 0:21:26.920 --> 0:21:30.120 of this idea succeeded. So over the course of the month, 0:21:30.240 --> 0:21:32.320 they will want to get more regular people to start 0:21:32.359 --> 0:21:36.440 associating members at the LGBTQ community with pedophilia. And in 0:21:36.960 --> 0:21:38.920 order to do that, the way they see it is 0:21:39.080 --> 0:21:42.520 by just gradually shifting this discussion. Uh, and then as 0:21:42.600 --> 0:21:46.560 public opinion altars, they hope that brands will distance themselves 0:21:46.600 --> 0:21:50.520 from the LGBTQ community and stop doing more more pride shit. 0:21:50.840 --> 0:21:53.480 Um right, It's like that was that was another big 0:21:53.680 --> 0:21:56.960 part of what their intention was. And they may not 0:21:57.080 --> 0:21:59.560 have done all that stuff immediately, Like they may not 0:21:59.680 --> 0:22:03.280 may not succeeded in that, but they definitely did succeed 0:22:03.520 --> 0:22:06.639 in the prevalence of the images that they were trying 0:22:06.720 --> 0:22:10.720 to intentionally spread, because that absolutely has happened. Do you 0:22:10.960 --> 0:22:16.080 know who else loves implanting ideas into your brain? That's 0:22:16.520 --> 0:22:20.160 that's that's right. The products and services that sponsored this podcast, 0:22:21.359 --> 0:22:23.800 go go buy go buy their product, or get a 0:22:24.000 --> 0:22:28.280 job at one of the you know, you know the 0:22:28.320 --> 0:22:40.800 what I'm talking about. Anyway, here's here's the adds and 0:22:41.000 --> 0:22:44.000 we are we are back. Wasn't wasn't it fun reading 0:22:44.040 --> 0:22:47.760 about Operation Pridefall? Didn't that just bring bring joy to 0:22:47.880 --> 0:22:55.560 your ears? Too? Yeah? So, as we mentioned, a big 0:22:55.640 --> 0:22:58.320 part of their attempts to sway public opinion, it's by 0:22:58.359 --> 0:23:01.639 spamming photos and memes that attempted to showcase just how 0:23:01.760 --> 0:23:04.680 dangerous gay people are to children, Whether that be drag 0:23:04.760 --> 0:23:07.920 queens doing story time at the library, photos of of 0:23:08.040 --> 0:23:11.879 gay people doing quote unquote kin get Pride. Um. You know, 0:23:12.119 --> 0:23:14.840 basically basically they're trying to say, how could any reasonable 0:23:14.920 --> 0:23:19.000 person or corporation support pride? It's essentially a grooming parade, 0:23:19.119 --> 0:23:20.760 right that that's the that's the thing that they were 0:23:20.800 --> 0:23:23.520 trying to implant. And one of the things that Oppertion 0:23:23.560 --> 0:23:26.240 Pridefel was successful in was popularizing a few of these 0:23:26.320 --> 0:23:28.920 can get Pride photos, many of which were then subsequently 0:23:29.000 --> 0:23:32.240 used last year during can Get Pride discourse um and 0:23:32.560 --> 0:23:35.760 used this year as well, uh, most mostly by some 0:23:36.359 --> 0:23:39.560 some like anti sex people on the left, um, and 0:23:39.800 --> 0:23:42.720