1 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Get Happen here. This is part two 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: of our discussion on the oppression Pride fall and they 3 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: kick Get Kick get Pride discourse and the grimmer stuff 4 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: and how they all combine in this really horrifying really 5 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: the way that I wish they didn't because it's pretty frustrating. So, uh, 6 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: last episode I talked towards the end, I talked to 7 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: a decent amount about tender queers um, and I actually 8 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 1: would like would like to define this term here um 9 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: and kind of get into why these why these people 10 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: are boosting these specific like talking points that are just 11 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: kind of regurgitate old types of homophobic stuff. They claim 12 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: it doesn't, but like it does. You're using this exact 13 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: same logic, you're just kind of reframing it. So tender 14 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: queers are this this the type of like they're kind 15 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: of like an in joke for like the queer community 16 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: of this personality type. Generally, the tender queers are like 17 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: a you know, typically a gen Z or a millennial queer, 18 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: more likely to be like fem, whether that be like 19 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: a woman non binary or fem person lesbians, uh, you know, 20 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: fem bisexuals, pan sexuals, or like queer soft boys kind 21 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: of they feature this like combination of personality designation an aesthetic, 22 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: and they're known for being especially adapt at using like 23 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: watery language of therapy as a means to like get 24 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: out of most things. Um Ever, everything's about like holding 25 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: space and healing and intimacy, and it's like it's wrapped 26 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: up in this like jovial pastel bubbly package. Right. If 27 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: you throw in some astrology some like coturoy overalls, shaved 28 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: heads and round glasses, and you've got yourself like a 29 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: basic tender queer. And a little quote here from an 30 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: author named Daisy Jones from an article that they made 31 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: quote just like the straight soft boy who uses performative 32 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: sensitivity to get away with being a little shit, sometimes 33 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: so do the tender queer. Tender queer generally refers to 34 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: a trope in the queer community of a queer person 35 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 1: who presents themselves as being sensitive, hyper vocal of their feelings, 36 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: sometimes thought of as prioritizing feelings and hyper intentional language 37 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 1: over their own harm and privilege. So they kind of 38 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: use like identity politics to avoid accountability. There's like this 39 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: um competitive oppression and self victimization. They center themselves and 40 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: their feelings in social or political movements that aren't necessarily 41 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: about them. They kind of they prioritize in effective methods 42 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: of self care. They utilize like gas lighting and dumping 43 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: the emotional labor of dealing with your own self onto 44 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:46,119 Speaker 1: onto others. Like tender queers are kind of they're they're 45 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: known to like mask toxicity and manipulativeness in the performative 46 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: language and aesthetics of social justice. They have this like 47 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: performative soft hypersensitivity and use identity politics to kind of 48 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 1: call out avoid things that make them uncomfortable and will 49 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: like and will publicly declare those things as problematic in 50 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: an attempt to force others to conform with their own will. 51 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: So that's why I describe a lot of these like 52 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: younger younger teens um who who use these talking points 53 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: against against quote unquote kink at pride as tender queers, 54 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: because like they're people who are really sensitive about what 55 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: makes them comfortable, and they avoid any they try to 56 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: avoid or campaign against anything that makes them uncomfortable, and 57 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: they use all these like performative turns of phrase and 58 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: talking points to to avoid having actual discussions about it. 59 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: It's just like weaponization of their marginalized identity as a 60 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: shield to avoid accountability or to deflect against people challenging 61 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: them for abusive behavior or in in the in the 62 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: in like the Pride case, this like internalized homophobia. Uh 63 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: there's there's the these little little tweet exchange for some 64 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: from some people on the superviral keeck a Pride post 65 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: from a month ago. Um, I'm fourteen and I don't 66 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: want to see a half naked person in leather straps 67 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: and a gag and an event. I take my family too. 68 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: And someone replied, like, try glancing Eddie Marty Gras or 69 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 1: even a public beach before you apply homophobic double standards. 70 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 1: And then they the poster replied, you think I'm homophobic, 71 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: I'm literally a trans non binary lesbian. So again this 72 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: is this is this is this is what I mean 73 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: when I when I when I talk about title queers. Right, 74 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: there's someone's calling them out for applying this homophobic double 75 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: standard on how they view like public semi unity, right, 76 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: not even like full nunity, just like how they view 77 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: public semi nunity like a bikini or something, right, And 78 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: then they respond by saying, I'm literally a trans done 79 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: binary lesbian UM and then went out to say, also, 80 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: people at those don't wear kinkshit, and it's why I 81 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: don't go to Marty Gras or large public beaches. It 82 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: makes me uncomfortable sing a bunch of adults and kinkshit 83 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: being sexual just physically makes me ill. People at Marty 84 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: Gros on public beaches don't act sexual or wear kinkshit, 85 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: And so like, I feel like you haven't been to 86 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: Marty grass Like you will see way more skinned at 87 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: a public beach. Most kinkshit require like requires covering your 88 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: body and a lot of extra stuff, like if you're 89 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: wearing a harness or like a latex full leather outfit, 90 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: you're like showing way less skin than someone wearing a 91 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: spiedo or a bikini. So maybe you're just uncomfortable with 92 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 1: people expressing their sexuality, which, in case, don't go to 93 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: Pride because that's what Pride is all about, that's the 94 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: entire poot. But yeah, little the w I'm literally a 95 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: trans non binary lesbian. Like that's like such a perfect 96 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: encapsulation of what the tender queer kind of trope is 97 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: UM and like not not not not many people like 98 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: self self identify as as Tinder queer as it's kind 99 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,559 Speaker 1: of this joe that the more kind of punky queer 100 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: community has kind of it's like an we're putting a 101 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: label on this, this behavioral trend that we've observed, and 102 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 1: it's it's kind of a joke, right, I'm not trying 103 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: to call out specific people. I'm not. If you're soft 104 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: and emotional sensitive, cool whatever, do whatever you want. I'm fine, 105 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: Just don't don't use these things as a shield to 106 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 1: justify forcing your will onto other people. It's cool to 107 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: not It's totally fine to like not like people being 108 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 1: publicly affectionate or like doing public like It's perfectly fine 109 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: to be uncomfortable with that. It's perfectly like. That doesn't 110 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: mean anything bad. It doesn't mean you're a prude, it 111 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: doesn't mean there's anything wrong with you. But like, there's 112 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: nothing wrong with people wanting to be public with that 113 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: at a public event, celebrating the fact that it's they 114 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: are now less oppressed for doing that thing, like yeah, 115 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: or a beach or Mardi Gras, and like, make sure 116 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: you're cognizant if you're engaging in any kind of like 117 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:05,679 Speaker 1: socially normalized ideas of like straight stuff is inherently less 118 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: sexual than gay stuff, right, I always, I mean I 119 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: advocate people being able to like get into their own 120 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: head and figure out why they think certain things like this. 121 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: It's it's this idea of meta thoughts, trying trying to 122 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: think about why you think about things. Um So, if 123 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: you if you're if you're more uncomfortable with two men kissing, 124 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: then you are with than one man and a woman kissing, 125 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: you should think about that. You should be like even 126 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: even as like even as a trans non buyinary lesbian, 127 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: if you if you if if you're more if you're 128 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: more uncomfortable looking at two men kiss you should think 129 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: about why, why, what social conditioning has caused this to happen? 130 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: Because that's something that people have been pushing for a 131 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: long time, is that, yeah, gay stuff is like more 132 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: adult or more mature than queer stuff. I think that's 133 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: a big part of of of these types of things 134 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: being at prized like pushing back on that idea. Um So, 135 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: like I think and the reason why we see more 136 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,559 Speaker 1: of these now is like there are these baby tender 137 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: queers who grew up in a world where you were 138 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: less likely to get fucking assaulted for being gay while 139 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: also growing up on the Internet in the age of 140 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: tumbler and Instagram. Right, these kids were able to construct 141 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:17,239 Speaker 1: their own comfortable, safe, bubbled versions of reality online, only 142 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: being exposed to what they want when they want, right 143 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: they get they get to only view it things that 144 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: they find esthetically pleasing, and the pandemic certainly heightened this 145 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: right with people being forced to solely exist in their 146 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: self catered online worlds. So now with the outside world 147 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,719 Speaker 1: opening up, some of these soft baby tender queers are 148 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: going through puberty and are dealing with their quote unquote 149 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 1: uncomfy feelings UM and the added notion of being exposed 150 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: to things that you have specifically not sought out like 151 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: that that causes them to be uncomfortable. Right, if if 152 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: you're if you're if you're a FEMI person who has 153 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: just attracted to other FEMI people, having to having to 154 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: look at dudes be affection It may not be your 155 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: cup of tea, but and who may not like enjoy it, 156 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: But that's like, it's just as queer as you are, 157 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: So if you shouldn't. You can't prioritize your queerness over 158 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: somebody else's UM. It's it's, it's it's it's. It's like 159 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: there's this collection of baby gates that gets uncomfortable being 160 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: reminded that people like especially people whom they are not 161 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: personally attracted to, have sex. It's like if they're reminded 162 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: that this happens and they don't like it. Um, it's 163 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: like it feels like they have this sort of like 164 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: anxiety just about about just looking at something that they 165 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: perceive as sexual in nature. Right, and for this, for them, 166 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 1: this includes other but two differently queer people wearing leather 167 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: or being semi nude, like dudes being shirtless or women 168 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: being shirtless. For like, I think that that's a whole 169 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: other double standard that should be uh pushed back upon. Um. 170 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: But like again, it's pride. It's not any more naked 171 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: than people at the beach. Uh, So you're not. It's not. 172 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: Actually if they're very selective in the types of things 173 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: that they that they will that they will focus on. 174 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: And it plays into this notion that's used by all 175 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: like anti gay legislation, that gayness is inherently more sexual 176 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: than being straight. Right, It's it's it's it's more sexual, 177 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: it's more mature. It's more adult, uh because for a 178 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: long time, being gay was exclusively seen as like a 179 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: hyper sexual, deving act um, And now, especially among gen 180 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: Z baby queers, being queer is now less tied to 181 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: specifically the act of sex. Right. Queerness is much more 182 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: of an like an overarching personal identity now, especially as 183 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: like as an intersex with like gender and stuff, right, 184 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: you know, whether that being on binary or this other 185 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 1: stuff like pan sexual, bisexual, what have you. But to 186 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 1: kind of circle back to the Kinker Pride stuff, people 187 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: want us dead for being queer. Uh, it doesn't mad 188 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: if someone's parading around in a collar. If you're uncomfortable, 189 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: you should maybe learned to fight, actually fight back into 190 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: people who actually want to kill you. Like Pride was 191 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: a riot, you should you should sort out your uncomfy 192 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: feelings elsewhere or director or director uncomfy feelings that the 193 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: people attacking us. So maybe maybe don't prop up kin 194 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: get Pride discourse when accusations of queer people being all 195 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: groomers is that is at an all time high and 196 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: there's fascists organizing to like shoot us at Pride marches, 197 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: So maybe consider that before you do discourse on Twitter 198 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: dot com. I'm I'm gonna do one little quote and 199 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: then we will have an ad break. Just gonna end 200 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: this section with a quote from them dot com again. Quote. Kinks, 201 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: sex and protests are all inherent parts of Pride. One 202 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: of the core tenets of Pride is liberation and working 203 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: against cultural shaming. Calling to quote not perform your kinks 204 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: and fetishes at Pride because some miners are there and 205 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: King can quote sexualize the event unquote uh implies that 206 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: celebrating sexuality and kink is openly bad, and normalizing these 207 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: things should be a goal of Pride. B D s 208 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 1: M subversus sexuality and leather culture have enjoyed a long 209 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 1: history within lgbt Q rights movement, and such public space 210 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: of sexuality are driven by much more than libido or 211 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: countercultural impulses. They're an inherent expression of queer culture and 212 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: queer sexuality, and as such deserve a place at Pride 213 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: as much as anything else. Okay, and now it's time 214 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,239 Speaker 1: to actually get into what the title of these episodes 215 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: is about. Uh, the operation Pride fell stuff. We're gonna 216 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 1: talk about this thing that sucks. Um. So, whether you're 217 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: looking at the conservative groom or discourse or the tender 218 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: Queer can Get Pride discourse. You'll see a lot of 219 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: the same logic as well as a lot of the 220 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: same photos. We've We've talked a lot about memes on 221 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: the show, and I'm not gonna get I'm not gonna 222 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: get into like the powder memes very much right now, 223 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: but suffice to say that like a picture can stick 224 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: in your head a lot easier than a bunch of 225 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: words can. Um and throughout the groomware and kick it 226 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: pride shit. There are a few select photos that people 227 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: use to demonstrate their opinions on how gay people are 228 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: a threat to children. Um. Either either there's just pictures 229 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: of adults and like kink associated garb, usually like full 230 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: latex body suits or pup masks UM or UH. And 231 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: there's the specifically like uh. There's these two specific pictures 232 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 1: of kids just like standing next to adults who are 233 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: wearing pop masks that get used a lot. There's also 234 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: there's also a lot of pictures of like drag queen 235 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: story time and whenever whenever I see any of these 236 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: very specific pictures, I flashed back to when I first 237 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 1: came across the original Operation Pridefall four Chune thread back 238 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: in because these are actually all of all of the 239 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: exact same pictures, um so. Operation Pride Fall was a 240 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: cyber harassment campaign started on Fourtune targeting the degeneracy of 241 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: the LGBTQ community by attempting to sway public opinion against 242 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 1: queer people by linking being gay to grooming and pedophilia, 243 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: so checking back in oh boy, oh boy, has has 244 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: things happened? So? Initially organized on four Chune, discord and 245 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: telegram right before Pride Month, the campaign set out targets 246 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: and methods to flood the social media platforms of gay venues, 247 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: Pride sponsors, and LGBTQ people or supporters with spam, anti 248 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: game memes and media, usually photos intended to imply a 249 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: link between being openly queer and the grooming of children 250 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: uh and operating online under the banner of Operation Pride Fall. 251 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: The campaign started on May ten, when an anonymous four 252 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: champ poster posted a thread on poll outlining Operation Pride Fall, 253 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: which was pitching it as a crowdsourced campaign aimed at 254 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: damaging the LGBTQ community during the month of June. The 255 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: plan centered around quote unquote red pilling users in the 256 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: commons sections of companies that support l l g B 257 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: t Q causes on social media. The four Chum post 258 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: read quote every June, hundreds of massive corporations banned together 259 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: to smother social media in posts in flavor of Pride Month, 260 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: a code word for the degeneracy that is LGBT activism. 261 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: Many of these accounts are rather small and get very 262 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: little engagement, yet they continue to post without backlashed beginning 263 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: on June one. The goal of Operation Pride Fall is 264 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: to get on Twitter, Instagram, etcetera, and drop a ship 265 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: ton of disturbing red pills on homosexuality on the comments 266 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: of the lesser known pages. The bigger pages are okay targets, 267 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: but posts tend to get unnoticed in the sea of 268 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: other comments. Commenting on smaller pages, ones with less than 269 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: one hundred likes and so means anyone who've used it 270 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: will see the posts, and companies will reconsider their pro 271 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: pride posts afterwards. Unquote. So if you scroll through the 272 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: archived initial like Pride Fall thread, you'll see a crowdsourced 273 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: collect of pictures that they intended to flood the internet with. 274 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: Under in the comment section of posts, discussing Pride or 275 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: discussing LGBTQ activism or whatever. Um. So in this, in 276 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: this like crowdsourced collection of photos, we see a lot 277 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: of drag queen storytime stuff. But many of these pictures 278 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: and memes are now the same ones used both in 279 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: the recent Groomer thing and in the past two years 280 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: of kink Get Pride discourse. It's it's the exact it's 281 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: the exact same photos. Um It's there's like, there's there's 282 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: hundreds of them. There's hundreds of of photos of like 283 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: you know, people in pop masks whatever, like waving waving 284 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: Pride flags. It's it's just there's a lot. There's a 285 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: lot of them, and the specific ones get used for 286 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: so much of the Groomer ship. Uh. And they really 287 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: started to gain much more visibility during after the Operation 288 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: Pride Fall thing got launched. The Opertion Pride Fall of 289 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: four tun' thread also instructed users and how to set 290 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: up a fake phone numbers, to make burner accounts to 291 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: to comment on these on these social media pages. Um 292 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: There's another really interesting part that the Operation Pride Fall 293 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: planning stuff detailed was on on on discord on the opertion, 294 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: pride fall servers and channels. The users were planning to 295 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 1: repurpose cringe e TikTok videos while relabeling them with anti 296 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: lgbt Q captions and hashtags. Uh, here's a here's a 297 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: quote from there, from their from their planning planning discord. 298 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: An additional idea, we can read pool zoomers on TikTok 299 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: and literally build a fucking puppet army to funk the 300 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: ship out of millennials. We should expand this operation to 301 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: as many social media outlets as possible in order to 302 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: maximize effort. Let's operate like this on TikTok, convince any 303 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: gen z sibling or relatives to do some kind of 304 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: shitty jester charade slash horror dance, and then add lgbt 305 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 1: Q critical captions on top of it and repost it 306 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: under trending hashtags. So you see elements of this exact 307 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: strategy mirrored one year later in lives of TikTok by 308 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: getting videos of people being I don't know kids and 309 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: like kind of cringe because kids are kind of cringe e, 310 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: but videos of kids on TikTok and mischaracterizing you know, 311 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: TikTok videos and adding adding lgbt Q talking points on 312 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: top of them, uh, to sway the public opinion of 313 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,239 Speaker 1: queer people. It's the It's the exact same strategy as 314 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: as a similar idea was also implemented alongside setting up 315 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 1: fake dating app profiles do not only spread their anti 316 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: gay kind of grooming memes, but also to farm vital 317 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: content by catfishing gay people and getting them to like 318 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 1: be an embarrassing interactions. Uh. Another quote on Tinder, Bumble 319 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: and Grinder set up freak profiles with legit convincing images 320 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: and descriptions that criticized lgbt So it's this, it's trying 321 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: to catfish queer people and like, then I guess span 322 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: them with pictures of these like grooming memes, um, and 323 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 1: see what their reaction is then post it. Right. It's 324 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 1: so the whole Operation Pride Fall strategy might appear pretty simple, Right, 325 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: it's like basically glorified ship posting, setting up a bunch 326 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: of fakes accounts and demonizing queer people in the common 327 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: section of small corporations and influencers. There definitely is a 328 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,239 Speaker 1: lot more to it than that, right, There was there 329 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: was this element of like planned escalation starting off first 330 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: as like appearing as reasonable commenters, right, acting in very 331 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: good faith, just as somebody concerned by kids being exposed 332 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: to to sexual materials would, whether that be you know, 333 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: people in drag at a library reading books or people 334 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 1: at a Pride parade. Right. So instead of immediately going 335 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: on like full gay bashing, uh, saying that we should 336 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: you know, kill all deviant trans people, which a lot 337 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,959 Speaker 1: of conservative comment hitters just say now, like Alijah Schaeffer 338 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: who just posts memes about wanting to kill trans kids. Um. 339 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: These these these board fascists, unfortune tried to coordinate a slow, 340 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: more insidious approach, which they would hope would just gradually 341 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: turn the tide of public opinion against queer people. Here's 342 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: a Here's the snippet from one of the Pride Fall 343 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: organizing chats. Quote, keep it normal, palatable, and friendly. This 344 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: means no Nazi or Hitler ship. The goal is to 345 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 1: make them question whether what they're supporting is really the 346 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: right thing. So as as as Pride Months progressed the 347 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: the the Pride Fall participants coordinated on four chane discord 348 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: and telegram to slowly increase the frequency and intensity of 349 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: the campaign another quote from the organizing chat quote, think 350 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 1: about it as waves day one is simply questioning homosexuality, 351 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: and then as the days goes on, it will get 352 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 1: worse and worse until the end of Pride Month. So uh. 353 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: In terms of physical things that actually had UH, I 354 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: believe opportion Pride Fall resulted in a few gay events 355 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: getting shut down. There was like this event and I 356 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: think it was it was like a like at a 357 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 1: queer nightclub in the UK that that got shut down. 358 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: There was a few other like like obviously like material 359 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: results that that they had by doing this harassment campaign 360 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: against venues and corporations. But I think they's they were 361 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 1: more successful in first of all, spreading specific memetic images 362 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: that are now commonly used in their grooming stuff and 363 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 1: in the kink of Pride stuff some some of which 364 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: these images were not really used in discourse before but 365 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: now are commonplace. I think that that's really where more 366 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 1: of this idea succeeded. So over the course of the month, 367 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: they will want to get more regular people to start 368 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: associating members at the LGBTQ community with pedophilia. And in 369 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 1: order to do that, the way they see it is 370 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: by just gradually shifting this discussion. Uh, and then as 371 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: public opinion altars, they hope that brands will distance themselves 372 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: from the LGBTQ community and stop doing more more pride shit. 373 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: Um right, It's like that was that was another big 374 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: part of what their intention was. And they may not 375 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: have done all that stuff immediately, Like they may not 376 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: may not succeeded in that, but they definitely did succeed 377 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: in the prevalence of the images that they were trying 378 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: to intentionally spread, because that absolutely has happened. Do you 379 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: know who else loves implanting ideas into your brain? That's 380 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 1: that's that's right. The products and services that sponsored this podcast, 381 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: go go buy go buy their product, or get a 382 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: job at one of the you know, you know the 383 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. Anyway, here's here's the adds and 384 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: we are we are back. Wasn't wasn't it fun reading 385 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: about Operation Pridefall? Didn't that just bring bring joy to 386 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: your ears? Too? Yeah? So, as we mentioned, a big 387 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: part of their attempts to sway public opinion, it's by 388 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: spamming photos and memes that attempted to showcase just how 389 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: dangerous gay people are to children, Whether that be drag 390 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 1: queens doing story time at the library, photos of of 391 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 1: gay people doing quote unquote kin get Pride. Um. You know, 392 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: basically basically they're trying to say, how could any reasonable 393 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: person or corporation support pride? It's essentially a grooming parade, 394 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: right that that's the that's the thing that they were 395 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: trying to implant. And one of the things that Oppertion 396 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: Pridefel was successful in was popularizing a few of these 397 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: can get Pride photos, many of which were then subsequently 398 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: used last year during can Get Pride discourse um and 399 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: used this year as well, uh, most mostly by some 400 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: some like anti sex people on the left, um, and 401 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: some of these young tender queers. Uh. And you know 402 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: that this this the same photos are used in grooming 403 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 1: stuff and in Pride fall stuff and and can Get 404 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: Pride stuff, because it's the same based psychology at play, right, 405 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 1: the idea that sexuality in a queer sense is dangerous 406 00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:00,239 Speaker 1: and way more deviant than sexuality in a heterosexual context. Right, 407 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: like straight people kissing is rated, gay gay people kissing 408 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: is rated PG or PG thirteen. Uh, it's it's it's 409 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: that idea, but accelerate it another correlation between the openly 410 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: homophobic grimmer talking points and like the tender queer stuff 411 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: is this is this idea that I'm only comfortable seeing 412 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: expressions of sexuality that I can relate to or also 413 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: find attractive. And another interesting thing about a lot of 414 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: these photos is that a lot of these photos that 415 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: they use aren't actually photos of Pride. A lot of 416 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: a lot of the photos that they use are actually 417 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: from the Fulsome Street Fair, which is like a kink festival. 418 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: It takes place in San Francisco every year. Hard to 419 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: exaggerate how horny the Fulsome Street farrist. So it's very horny. 420 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 1: But also, obviously because gay people have sex, gay people 421 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: also exist in the Fulsome Street Fair. Um, they may 422 00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: even wave a Pride flag. Shocking. Um. So a lot 423 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: of these photos that that that they use in the 424 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: grooming stuff and then they can get Pride stuff are 425 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: actually from the Fulsome Street Fair. There are actually photos 426 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: of Pride parades, of it's and it's it's and of 427 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 1: course anyone who has been to Pride we kind of 428 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 1: know that because Pride is not like the Fulsome Street Fair. 429 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 1: They are very different to vets. And that's another an 430 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: indicator of how a lot of these people who prop 431 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: up this discourse online have never been to Pride either, 432 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: because they're sharing photos at the fulsome street Fair and 433 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: saying it's Pride. Um obviously, lots of these Nazias on fourtune, 434 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 1: I've never been to the Folsome Street Fair or Pride. Uh. 435 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: But they they also share these same photos because hey, 436 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: it's it's people who look gay doing sexual things in public. 437 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: That means it's at Pride and it's a danger to children, 438 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: even though a lot of them are actually at the 439 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: fulsome street Fair. Um So if then, if if you're 440 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: a queer person and you're reposting these fulsome street Fair 441 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: pick years and claiming to be from and claiming that 442 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 1: they're from a Pride parade, uh to bash like kinker 443 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: Pride stuff. Uh reconsider that because you're basically just doing 444 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: the work that neo Nazis wants to do. Uh. Just 445 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 1: you're just doing it on your own time, right Like 446 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: it's you're repurposing the exact same photos that they were 447 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 1: that they were putting out there within this context and 448 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: just not even not even knowing where these where these 449 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: where these pictures are from? Um so stop stop that 450 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: I can consider not if if you have to, like 451 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 1: if you're gonna go to all of this work to 452 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: denounce queer people for like existing, maybe you should consider 453 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: why you're doing that, because wow, that's that sucks. Because 454 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: calling the fulsome street fair a pride parade and then 455 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: demonizing it because then then and then and then demonizing 456 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: pride because there's people who act like pretty kinky is 457 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: not not great because that's not what anything is happening. 458 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: You're none of none, none of that is accurate. So 459 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 1: that's it's really frustrating to look at to look at 460 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,959 Speaker 1: all of all of the ways these things, these things combined, 461 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: because you get you get intender queers sharing fulsome street 462 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: fair pictures, you get conservative politicians sharing them all calling 463 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 1: them pride stuff. To begin, like, a lot of the 464 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: stuff you see there isn't even like a lot of 465 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: them isn't like a lot of pictures don't even have 466 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: like full nudity. Um, So that's not necessarily like, it's 467 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: not it's not even super important, but it's you're conflating 468 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: these these things in a really disingenuous way, and you're 469 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: just repeating the exact same things that Nazis have been 470 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: trying to get you to repeat for years, and you 471 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: should consider why that happens. So all of the grimming 472 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: stuff obviously has gotten has gotten worse in the in 473 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: the past few months. Uh definitely definitely ballooned around the 474 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: around the don't say gay bill, and this got tied 475 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: into a whole bunch of stuff happening in Florida with 476 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: the Disney Core operation, and a lot of the grooming 477 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 1: stuff got tied to conservatives attacking Disney now um and 478 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: calling Disney a grooming organization. We've had We've had far 479 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: right candidates show up in front of in front of 480 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 1: Disney World to do protests. We've had Nazis show up 481 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: in front of Disney World to do protests. You've seen 482 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: a lot of mega people show up at Disney World 483 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: to do protests, UM, all against Disney's grooming of children 484 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: by including anything not street in any of their materials, 485 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: which has already like so little um, which is also 486 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: extremely funny of like imagining you bring Walt Disney, Disney 487 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: come on like it's all on the same side here, 488 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: like yeah, and like I don't know, like do you, 489 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if I really actually think that, like 490 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: do you do all these all these people actually think 491 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: that millions of teachers, democrats at corporate entertainment creators are 492 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: all complicit and it's in a long term planning of 493 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: like to to sexually groom miners. Some some might believe that, right, 494 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: that that kind of that kind of overlaps with some 495 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: to and on stuff in the paranoia around like child trafficking. 496 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: But I think others understand that they're kind of being 497 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: hyperbolic and they're being inflammatory to get people angry and 498 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: to get people like very very like active in their 499 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: in their hatred of gay people. Right. They needs to 500 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: old school homophobia kind of became a bad look. They 501 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: need to find a new way to rebrand it. And 502 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: now it's with this groom or stuff and like a 503 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: gay teachers, trans teachers, right, gender identity stuff, right, a 504 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: lot of it is now wrapped up in like trans issues. Um. 505 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: But I I want to read this quote by a 506 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: right wing writer named Rod Dreer. It was it was, 507 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: it was. It was cited in the Atlantic, and I 508 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: think it's actually a really good look at how the 509 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: people who are some art on the right, um, how 510 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: that they are intentionally using this grooming label. Quote about 511 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: the term groomers, it's usually used to describe pedophiles who 512 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: are preparing innocent kids for sexual exploitation. I think it 513 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: is coming to have a somewhat broader meaning an adult 514 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: who wants to separate children from a normative sexual and 515 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: gender identity, to inspire confusion in them and to turn 516 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: them against their parents and all the normative traditions and 517 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: institutions in society. It may not be specifically to groom 518 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: them for sexual activity, but it is certainly to groom 519 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: them to take them on a sexual slash gender identity 520 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: at odds with the norm which really I think that 521 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: that quote, that quote really showcases what's going on in 522 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: their brains there. Yeah, well, and this is something I 523 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: think like Drare, like Rob Drey in particular, doing this, 524 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: I think it is a really bad sign because there's 525 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: people who don't know who Rob Drere is. He's like 526 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: a weirdo Catholic guy. He's been like a right wing 527 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: like Catholic. I think he's a writing Catholics calumnist for 528 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: a long time, and like you know, if you go 529 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: back to like seventeen, his big thing was his whope 530 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: was a thing called the benedict adoption, which was basically like, okay, 531 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: so like secular society has become corrupted, like Christians should 532 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: just pull out of it, right and go live with 533 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: their own communities that can be sort of like like 534 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: you know, if we we like we we we we've 535 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: we've lost this world. We have to like create a 536 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: new world which we can live around and sort of 537 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: like Christian truth or whatever. And he he was in 538 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: this long running kind of like battle with a sort 539 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: of like I guess like openly philangious kind of like 540 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: openly fascists. I mean that quite openly fascist, but like 541 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: people people who are reading uh like what's his name, uh, 542 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: people who are reading Schmidt, and like the Nazi lawyers 543 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: who were like, okay, well we you know, instead of 544 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: as opposed to this thing of like we're Catholics, we're 545 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: gonna pull back from the world, their thing was we're 546 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: going to use We're going to use like the states 547 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: to enforce Christian doctrine. And Drere had sort of like 548 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: fought that. And the fact that Drere is now just 549 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: full on in this grooming ship right that is really 550 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: bad yep. And and looking again. And you know, even 551 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: if you want to go back into history, right, like, 552 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: this is this is the kind of flip that happened 553 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: that brought the evangelicals into the political scene. Right, Like, 554 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: you have this flip from like people being like while 555 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: the raptures coming insidees and peers who are not gonna 556 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: become be politically engaged too. Oh hey, look we can 557 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: use the state to just like destroyer political enemies and 558 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: create the kingdom of heaven on earth. And yeah, this 559 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: is this is not good. This is yeah. But I 560 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 1: think specifically that quotes a really good insight the smart 561 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: conservatives who know what they're doing, Like they know it's 562 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: not actual grooming, but it's if they can if they 563 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: can use that word within the context of being like, 564 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: it's about getting it's about getting kids to adopt a 565 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: non normative sexual identity. Again, it's like non normative. Right, 566 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,959 Speaker 1: It's it's confusion in them turning them against the institutions 567 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: in society. Right, all of all of these things that 568 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: is that is mirrored across lots of the groomy discourse, 569 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: the kinker pride discourse, all this kind of stuff. It's 570 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: it's it's the same it's the same thing. It's like 571 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: a non normative sexuality is more sexual than a normative sexuality. 572 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: It's this whole idea, man. And it's not great because 573 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: it's not gonna stop with kids either. Uh, it's not 574 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: gonna we we I talked with I've talked with this 575 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: a lot. How how once they ban you know, trans 576 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: health care for miners, they're gonna bump it up to 577 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: then they're gonna bump it up to no one has 578 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: it at all. And I have, I got I got 579 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: an update on that front. Um. So, first of all, 580 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: for a recent legislation, there's the Alabama Felony Healthcare Band 581 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: for TRANSUTH which forcibly detransitions teams across the state. UM. 582 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: That that that that that that's gonna enacted. And in 583 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: Missouri there's a similar bill in the works, officially titled 584 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: the Save Adolescents from Experimentation Act um. And it applies 585 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: to into individuals younger than nineteen years old. UM and 586 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 1: it would it would inhibit Missouri UH physicians and healthcare 587 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: providers and prevent them from providing gender affirming healthcare to patients. 588 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 1: And it turns out Missouri la Is lawmakers a few 589 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: weeks ago, we're debating the bill seeking to restrict access 590 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: to gender firm and care for miners and and they 591 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: also suggested that access to medical interventions like hormones be 592 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 1: withheld from transgender and non binary individuals until at least 593 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: their twenty fifth birthday. During public in Missouri's for House 594 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:50,760 Speaker 1: Bill to six four nine, Lorie Haynes, a psychologist, testified 595 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,879 Speaker 1: that she believes young adults under the age of twenty 596 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,840 Speaker 1: five are unable to fully comprehend the dramatic and drastic 597 00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: and irreparable changes their body will go under they receive 598 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 1: gender affirming medical treatments like community blockers or hormone therapies. 599 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 1: Hayes also said that she's supported getting conversion therapy for 600 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: trans kids. Yeah, I'll bet she thinks that eighteen year 601 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: old should be able to buy at join the military, 602 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 1: join the So it's already happening. We already have lawmakers 603 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: and we have psychologists being brought into testify that this 604 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: is the case. People they want that this is going 605 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:28,760 Speaker 1: to be the next thing. They want this to happen. 606 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,760 Speaker 1: Um now, I'm just gonna say, obviously, uh recent study 607 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: published in the Journal of America in the Journal of 608 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: the American Medical Association found that receiving gender affirming care 609 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 1: including beauty blockers and hormones between the ages thirteen and 610 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 1: twenty associated with six lower odds of moderate or severe 611 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 1: depression and seventy three lower are odds of suicidality. Another 612 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,919 Speaker 1: study published late last year by the Trevor Project found 613 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 1: that among transgender and non binary miners, hormone therapy was 614 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 1: associated with nearly lower odds of recent Russian or a 615 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: suicide attempt over the last year, and a lot of 616 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,240 Speaker 1: the effects of permonty blockers and even hormonal placement therapy 617 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: actually are reversible and are not damaging. Um so, I mean, 618 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 1: but we we all know that there's that horrible uh 619 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: Matt Walsh trans documentary coming out soon. Yeah, yeah, and 620 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 1: you definitely I know. In the trailer, he says that, uh, 621 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 1: one of the drugs used to give puberty blockers to 622 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:35,240 Speaker 1: miners is also used as a chemical castration for sexual 623 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: assault perpetrators, uh, which is kind of true. But it's 624 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: castration in the sense that you need to take the 625 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 1: drug always for its to work. It's like it's a 626 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: hormone blocker. It stops sasterone from from being produced. If 627 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 1: you go off of it, it's gonna happen again. It's 628 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 1: not a permanent castration. It's gonna suppress testosterone. You know, 629 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,439 Speaker 1: a popular medication for people with heart problems is also 630 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 1: a highly explosive compound. Oh no, can be used in 631 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,919 Speaker 1: different ways. It's yeah, like like cancer victims are found 632 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 1: with dihydrogen mono oxide in their system. Like so, but yeah, anyway, 633 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna see a lot of We're gonna see a 634 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,320 Speaker 1: lot of lives about HRT coming up soon because that 635 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 1: this Matt Walsh talking about it is going to be stupid. 636 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 1: But again he doesn't understand the science. Obviously he's a propagantist. Um. 637 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 1: But the last thing I want to talk about, here's 638 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: what's gonna be happening in cort aline idaho. Um So, 639 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: taking taking their cue from the I'm gonna be I'm quoting, 640 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:44,839 Speaker 1: I'm going to quote an article here by by Daily Costs. Uh. 641 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 1: They did a really a really really good write up. 642 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 1: David Newars wrote it. David David NewART for the record, 643 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,400 Speaker 1: Like the thing that he has been this beat that 644 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,799 Speaker 1: that we're in, like writing about these people, David's been 645 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: doing it for like thirty years. He's he's amazing, He's incredible. 646 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna I'm gonna quote from him here. This 647 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,840 Speaker 1: is the last thing we'll We'll close with um taking 648 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 1: a queue from the incoming tide of far right fearmongering 649 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: about grooming and an lgbt Q agenda in schools and libraries. 650 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 1: A group of Idaho biker militiamen are planning to show 651 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 1: up to confront people celebrating pride at an event in 652 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 1: downtown quarter Laine, Idaho, and in a public park next month. 653 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:32,360 Speaker 1: Two men from the leadership of Panhandle Patriots, a militia 654 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 1: oriented bikers club based in northern Idaho. Justin Allen, the 655 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,479 Speaker 1: group's vice president, and Jeff White, it's sergeant at arms, 656 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: told a recent gathering at a church hosted by Republican 657 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,360 Speaker 1: state house member Heather Scott that they plan to have 658 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 1: a gun driven event next month in Quarterly in Idaho, 659 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 1: the same day as this city's pride celebration at a 660 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 1: park less than a mile away, and they planned a confrontation. UM. 661 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 1: I'm going to play a clip of them announcing this, uh, 662 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,840 Speaker 1: and yeah, give it a listen. These parades or government 663 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 1: funded many of you aren't aware right now. In court Alaine, 664 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 1: on the tenth of June, there is Family Day, and 665 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 1: in Family Day they are promoting family values, activities and everything. 666 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 1: The very following day, they're having Gay Pride Day in 667 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,319 Speaker 1: the very same park the very next day, where they 668 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:32,479 Speaker 1: will be allowed to parade through all of Court a lane, drag, 669 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 1: queen dancers, education, our making all this material available for 670 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 1: all the kids in a park that is designed for kids. 671 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 1: We are having an event the very same day. That 672 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,840 Speaker 1: very same day, we actually intend to go head to 673 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 1: head with these people. A line must be drawn in 674 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,840 Speaker 1: the sand. Good people need to stand up. As she 675 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 1: was talking about the repercussions, we say, damn the repercussions. 676 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 1: Stand up, take it to the head, go to the 677 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 1: fight if you can possibly. We know a lot of 678 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: you are monitored. We live in Bonner County. We are 679 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,320 Speaker 1: fighting in multiple counties. We are asking for all of 680 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: you to come stand with us. Our event is advertised 681 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 1: as gun to Lane because it's an anniversary of when 682 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:28,360 Speaker 1: we stood to protect our community. We're standing again to 683 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,320 Speaker 1: protect our community. We shifted our date to be available 684 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 1: to go head to head with these people. They are 685 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 1: trying to take your children. This fight is not just paper, 686 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 1: it's not just words, it's not just politicians. They have 687 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 1: to see people standing in their facing no more so. Wow, 688 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 1: that sucked, uh and is entirely entirely expected. Um so. 689 00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: The the meeting at the at this church, read by 690 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 1: a Republican House member, was titled the Game Plan to 691 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 1: Remove inappropriate Materials in our Schools and Libraries. It was 692 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 1: It was held at a Calvary chapel in a small 693 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 1: town north of Sandpoint, Idaho. Scott is a long history 694 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,840 Speaker 1: associations and identifications with the far right patriot movement, specifically 695 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 1: in Idaho, and it was bad um. Heather Scott, the 696 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 1: Republican state house member. About an hour into the night, Uh. 697 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 1: Scott invited the two militia dudes up to the podium 698 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 1: to speak, and they said that so yeah, it's in 699 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 1: In a flyer posted by the Panhandle Patriots advertising their 700 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 1: planned conversation at at at at Pride at at a 701 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,720 Speaker 1: flyer that they made shows shows a drag queen reading 702 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 1: at a public library and urges people to join in 703 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 1: and standing up against the indoctrination and grooming of our children. 704 00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: And if you don't protect children. You are part of 705 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 1: the problem them. So yeah, they're planning to take a 706 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,440 Speaker 1: hole bunch of guns the same day as a Pride parade, 707 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 1: and we'll see what happens. Um. I love that. That's that, 708 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:13,719 Speaker 1: We're just going to see what happens. You and I 709 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 1: jenuine very incredibly deeply hope we're not reporting on the 710 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:23,919 Speaker 1: result of that, because yep. So anyway, before you share 711 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,760 Speaker 1: can get Pride discourse. I think this is what happens. 712 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 1: This is what happens when you engage this in this 713 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 1: type of rhetoric, that queer sexuality is inherently more dangerous 714 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 1: to kids. Because anyway, I'm sad. Now, yeah, this isn't 715 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 1: really an upper of an episode. Um, you don't say, 716 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 1: but it's it is important to talk about. Um. So 717 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 1: if you're going to Pride this year, please be careful 718 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 1: because there's a lot of a lot of worsening attacks 719 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,800 Speaker 1: on queer people. Bring a knife back. You shouldn't have to, 720 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:05,280 Speaker 1: You shouldn't have to do this. But this is anyway, 721 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:09,319 Speaker 1: Well that does it for us today. It could happen here. 722 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:17,840 Speaker 1: Hopefully it doesn't happen here, um, but it could. It 723 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 1: could happen here. 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