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Speaker 2: Tip to Tim.

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Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 2: This this Morning Combat.

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Speaker 3: It's the end of the year as we know it,

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Speaker 3: and I feel fine. Hello everyone. It is whatever fucking

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Speaker 3: episode it is of Morning Combat. Today is the day.

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Speaker 3: It's the last episode. I don't know what the number

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Speaker 3: it is of this podcast for the year twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 3: I'm merely one half of your hosting duo. My name

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Speaker 3: is Luke Thomas. I join you from the capital of

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Speaker 3: lis status Anitos while I hear people talk in my

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Speaker 3: ear and I am partnered with the Viceroy slash Prince

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Speaker 3: of Connecticut. He is wearing clothes that are frankly inexplicable,

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Speaker 1: It's Brian Campbell, Camble Direct Dumbridge. With our are our

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Speaker 1: great producer Matt Snyder and the staff who have ridiculed

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Speaker 1: my midlife crisis Dad had. I think I really am

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Speaker 1: making it work, Luke. Maybe one day we'll laugh about it,

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Speaker 1: but for now, your boy BC and the MK ty

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Speaker 1: want to apologize for the people in holding this show

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Speaker 3: Well, there you have it. We are here today for

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Speaker 3: what is quite literally the last show of the year.

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Speaker 3: what might be ahead. Okay, so housekeeping first things first.

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Speaker 3: I am told that we have holiday items not merely

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Speaker 3: for sale, but for special sale over at Morningcombat Dot.

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Speaker 1: Store, Hollywood, our holiday line of chip. Head on over

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Speaker 1: to our website right now because these supplies they're not

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Speaker 1: gonna last. They need to go. As the camera shifts

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Speaker 1: these items need to go. They've been slashed, they've been

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Speaker 1: Apparently I'm cutting out, Luke. Can you hear me at all?

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Speaker 3: Yes? So, your your voice is fine, but your screen

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Speaker 3: Did you what you got that McDonald's Wi Fi?

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Speaker 1: Where you I mean, you know, an award winning show

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Speaker 1: Look, this was my second straight COVID Christmas, as a

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Speaker 1: Okay, But Merry Xmas, Luke. Do you just say no, no.

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Speaker 3: But she had a great Christmas. First of all. In Conto,

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Speaker 3: Luke, that's exactly right. Do all the playgrounds now, the

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Speaker 3: We can we can sort of skip that. We're gonna

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Speaker 3: We will do it by the way Morning Combat at

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Speaker 3: gmail dot com. We will do dead wrongs today. But

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Speaker 3: as his, that's nothing you could sneeze at I cannot

431
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Speaker 3: dismiss that and say that that's wrong. But dude, there's

432
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Speaker 3: just a lot of Like, dude, the fight game in

433
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Speaker 3: two years moves fast, and John was very much ahead

434
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Speaker 3: of the ballgame for many, many, many many years, maybe

435
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Speaker 3: even still. But I think the game is definitely a

436
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Speaker 3: lot different than it used to be, and I'm curious

437
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Speaker 3: to see exactly how that plays.

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Speaker 1: Out, assuming I agree, before you transition out of this

439
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Speaker 1: first point about fighter pay in the fallout of that,

440
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Speaker 1: As much as we don't want to talk about crossover

441
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Speaker 1: celebrity boxing, and you know, we're, you and I are.

442
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Speaker 3: I do a little bit, I do well you and

443
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Speaker 3: I are even.

444
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Speaker 1: A little tired of it, it is. It does have

445
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Speaker 1: the potential, even though it's a bubble, and we all

446
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Speaker 1: expect the bubble to pop because historically it has. You

447
00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,640
Speaker 1: do have to wonder, Luke in twenty twenty two how

448
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Speaker 1: much this could play a part in UFC fighter leverage

449
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Speaker 1: and all of that, because look, there's a bold prediction

450
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Speaker 1: to make here. If Jake Paul, for example, can keep

451
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Speaker 1: luring MMA names and knocking them out, will it get

452
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Speaker 1: to a point that Dana White either wants to buy

453
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Speaker 1: in or wants to try to send a fight or

454
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Speaker 1: over to put an end to it, or maybe that's

455
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Speaker 1: all just ridiculous speculation. He doesn't care either way. That

456
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Speaker 1: could play a role and give it because look, if

457
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Speaker 1: Nate Diaz becomes a free agent, it's not that we

458
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Speaker 1: expect him to go to BELT or PFL tomorrow. We

459
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Speaker 1: expect him to go to boxing a cash in right,

460
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Speaker 1: because as long as that is still offering a career

461
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Speaker 1: level payday to these guys, it's going to be an

462
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Speaker 1: allure to try to either get out of their deal

463
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Speaker 1: or have some middle ground, in which Danel White says, Okay,

464
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Speaker 1: I don't want to lose you guys, but I'll give

465
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Speaker 1: you wiggle room to do one per year, or if

466
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Speaker 1: you're a big enough star to demand a Jake Paul fight,

467
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Speaker 1: I'll co promote you. You know what I mean. I

468
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Speaker 1: wonder if some type of change in that area is coming,

469
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Speaker 1: or if the bubble bursts before we even get there.

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Speaker 3: So I actually would like to approach a situation a

471
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Speaker 3: little bit differently, but include what you just brought up.

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Speaker 3: If I may my big twenty twenty two prediction for MMA,

473
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Speaker 3: and this could work both ways, but I will give

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Speaker 3: a separate one for Boxing BC. When we started this program,

475
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Speaker 3: I remember sitting down with Showtime and they were asking

476
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Speaker 3: me like, how do you feel about covering boxing? And

477
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Speaker 3: you know the story I used to of course, before

478
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Speaker 3: MMA Fighting was purchased from AOL and brought over at Espanation,

479
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Speaker 3: I actually did a fair amount of boxing coverage, but

480
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Speaker 3: then got away from it all those years as an

481
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Speaker 3: editor because I simply did not have the time. So

482
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Speaker 3: I was actually happy to go back to it. But

483
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Speaker 3: I bring it up to say I thought that it

484
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Speaker 3: would just be two different things that I covered at

485
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Speaker 3: the same time or something, and it actually turned out

486
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Speaker 3: that's really not the case. This is actually a really

487
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Speaker 3: good time to do what you and I are doing,

488
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Speaker 3: which is to cover both sports. Why my prediction for MMA,

489
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Speaker 3: and it's for boxing too, but I'm gonna look at

490
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Speaker 3: it from the MMA side of things is that MMA

491
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Speaker 3: and boxing are going to bleed together in a lot

492
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Speaker 3: of different, unique and interesting ways. Let me give you

493
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Speaker 3: an example, and it's already been happening, but I mean

494
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Speaker 3: it's gonna really ramp up. The first thing I would

495
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Speaker 3: say is from a technique perspective, we're seeing a little

496
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Speaker 3: bit more of these Max Holloway Adria and Janez types.

497
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Speaker 3: Now those are two very elite names, But what I

498
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Speaker 3: mean to say is guys at MMA are getting better

499
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Speaker 3: at boxing and then bringing a boxing sort of centric

500
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Speaker 3: kind of game to the sport to varying degrees of success,

501
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Speaker 3: of course, but you're seeing a lot more of it.

502
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Speaker 3: As guys get better in boxing, they're doing better boxing

503
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Speaker 3: in MMA. I think you're gonna see a lot more

504
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Speaker 3: of that archetype of a kind of fighter emerged. I

505
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Speaker 3: would also argue more than that, it is clear. It

506
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Speaker 3: is clear that the MMA industry and the boxing industry

507
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Speaker 3: are trying to find ways to work together, and in

508
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty one some of that might have worked. Where

509
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Speaker 3: you know, you don't have the firmament exactly of boxing,

510
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Speaker 3: only a little bit with Jake Paul versus you know

511
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Speaker 3: whoever he's fighting, but you know, even like Kubrat Pulev

512
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Speaker 3: doing this kind of Triller triad thing where they're trying

513
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Speaker 3: to accommodate some middle ground space where you can make

514
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Speaker 3: it all work. When we grew up, there was massive

515
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Speaker 3: distance between boxing and MN once they grew up. I mean,

516
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Speaker 3: like junior reporters or whatever were they were not connected

517
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Speaker 3: at all, and there was grand hostility and a lot

518
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Speaker 3: of that is still around. But I think what you're

519
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Speaker 3: gonna see is that trend accelerate even more in twenty

520
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Speaker 3: twenty two. And some things are gonna work, some things

521
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Speaker 3: are gonna die off. Some things about work halfway. There's

522
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Speaker 3: gonna be a lot of experimentation BC. There's gonna be

523
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Speaker 3: a lot of trial and error. But I do think

524
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Speaker 3: that this thing that you've been seeing this past year,

525
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Speaker 3: that's only going to continue into twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 1: Look, I want to ask you about this trend whether

527
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Speaker 1: we see it coming. For all we talk about fighter

528
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Speaker 1: pay and what guys deserve and have versus half have not.

529
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Speaker 1: We're also starting to see a little bit of guys

530
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Speaker 1: taking control of their own situation and retiring on their

531
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Speaker 1: own terms, or at least threatening to from Habib late

532
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Speaker 1: last year, although it didn't become official until early this

533
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Speaker 1: year because of that ridiculous stand of white soap opera

534
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Speaker 1: of courting him to Sahudo to Now we're talking about

535
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Speaker 1: kamaraw Usman. You know, how many more fights will he have?

536
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Speaker 1: You know, as Amanda Newness dialed in to want to

537
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Speaker 1: keep doing this. You just had Habib yesterday or whatever

538
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Speaker 1: on a press conference speaking in Russian trying to explain

539
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Speaker 1: Dustin Poirier's lost to olivera as maybe you know this

540
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Speaker 1: guy made a ton of money and then changed and

541
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Speaker 1: doesn't have that same hunger. Do you think it's going

542
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Speaker 1: to become a trend here, not for guys to hang

543
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Speaker 1: on too long, which has become the norm, but for

544
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Speaker 1: guys to finally become that have right I think the

545
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Speaker 1: UFC is so successful in the financial model they have

546
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Speaker 1: right now because they're so little halves. We don't report

547
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Speaker 1: their full income because of how UFC keeps everything secretive,

548
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Speaker 1: and none of them really complain outside of like a

549
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Speaker 1: John Jones or and Ghanu because they finally get to

550
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Speaker 1: that point Luke, and they're like, I ain't rocking the boat.

551
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Speaker 1: I want to take my couple million, and I want

552
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Speaker 1: to finally, you know, buy my vacation home and set

553
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Speaker 1: myself up. Yet once they get there finally, I'm wondering

554
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Speaker 1: if we're gonna start to see a trend of them

555
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Speaker 1: looking at the overall equation and saying, what am I

556
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Speaker 1: going to gain from taking on extra damage and playing

557
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Speaker 1: out the twilight of my career. What if I can

558
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Speaker 1: walk away now with everything intact and you know, transition

559
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Speaker 1: my money into investments in the business world. Do you

560
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Speaker 1: see that as a future trend or just a couple

561
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Speaker 1: you know, aberrations linked together, fighters.

562
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Speaker 3: Are copycats of each other. I do expect you'll see

563
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Speaker 3: some more of that, but not in the same way

564
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Speaker 3: like Nate Diaz did that for what three years or something,

565
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Speaker 3: where he was like, fuck this, I'm out, I'm not

566
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Speaker 3: doing this anymore. But he was never kind of fully

567
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Speaker 3: all the way out, just set around and now he's

568
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Speaker 3: trying to find another pay day outside of well, maybe

569
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Speaker 3: we'll see trying to find another paydy outside of MMA again.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that that's We'll have to see how

571
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 3: that goes exactly. But trend, no couple of times where

572
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Speaker 3: it could happen. Absolutely, I just your right to point out.

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Speaker 3: And I made this point before. I don't talk to

574
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Speaker 3: managers all that often, but every time I talk to

575
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Speaker 3: someone who's got a UFC champion in their stable, they

576
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Speaker 3: can't tell me more that that person wants to fight

577
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Speaker 3: like three four more times and get the fuck out,

578
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Speaker 3: you know. So I think you're right to like worry

579
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Speaker 3: about it. But at the same time, without there's not

580
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Speaker 3: many of those people, and without the UFC, not many

581
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Speaker 3: of them have that ability to do that Nate Diaz pivot.

582
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Speaker 3: You know there's are gonna be limited. So yeah, you'll

583
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Speaker 3: see some not a trend, I don't.

584
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Speaker 1: Well, look, not a lot. Yeah. To be fair, very

585
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 1: few in any combat sport have a successful transition out

586
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Speaker 1: of it, which leads so many of them back into

587
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: the game when they shouldn't be, so that I don't

588
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 1: see that trend changing per se. But Luke, what about

589
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: this trend in twenty twenty two that if you're looking

590
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Speaker 1: to do that experiment, which we're not most shows do. Okay,

591
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 1: let's go division by division and guess who's going to

592
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Speaker 1: be the UFC champion at the end of twenty twenty two.

593
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Speaker 1: Would it be fair to go up and down the

594
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Speaker 1: rankings and just pick out the highest rated Schmesh Factory

595
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: alumni and basically say, it's already a trend, but it's

596
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Speaker 1: really going to hit home and hit hard in twenty

597
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Speaker 1: twenty two that if you're from the Caucus region, you're

598
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Speaker 1: probably going to raise a title across any MMA major organization.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, as it stands today, the only UFC

600
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 3: fighter even remotely from even close to that area would

601
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Speaker 3: be what Valentina Chevchenko, the only UFC champion. And even

602
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Speaker 3: then she's not from there, She's from Kyrgystan, which is,

603
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,120
Speaker 3: you know, not far or something, you know, another Soviet

604
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Speaker 3: satellite state. Previously, that's all you've got like that, There's

605
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 3: not a lot of them. But as you have pointed out,

606
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Speaker 3: and as I have pointed out, Bellator's got Usbin nimgam Madov,

607
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 3: Megamed Mega Menov certainly a PFL Megamed Mega men Karamov.

608
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 3: In the UFC, you can shake up, I mean, Islam Makachev.

609
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 3: This might be his big breakout year and twenty. I

610
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Speaker 3: mean you can.

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Speaker 1: I mean, don't forget the deem Nemkov, Yarslav Amslav if

612
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 1: great are Ukraine and Russia into the hole?

613
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but they're a little I mean, you know those

614
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Speaker 3: guys from the Special Factory, they're all Muslim usually, I

615
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 3: mean the Caucasus mountains obviously, are you know, George is

616
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 3: gonna have some say over that, and they're Christian. But

617
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Speaker 3: you get the idea, like you know, Nemkov is a

618
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 3: little bit more established than from a different part of Russia.

619
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Speaker 3: But that that that unique stretch of land there, they've

620
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Speaker 3: got so many guys in so many organizations ready to

621
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Speaker 3: take over. I think you're right in twenty twenty two,

622
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Speaker 3: you're gonna see a fuck ton.

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Speaker 1: Well, look, you could argue it was kind of like

624
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Speaker 1: that with Brazil at the end of the aughts. It

625
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: was sort of like, you know, how many divisions can

626
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: we get a Brazilian champion?

627
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Speaker 3: I mean, Brazil used to be, if not the most

628
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 3: dominant force in MMA, and certainly, I mean it was

629
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Speaker 3: a NHB back then, but even then at worse number

630
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Speaker 3: two or something. And now it's still, you know, a

631
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 3: perennial powerhouse, but not in the same way. It's certainly

632
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 3: made some more room as you've indicated for the smash factory. Now,

633
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 3: you see. Somebody asked me, and I don't know how

634
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Speaker 3: to answer this question very very candidly, or at least

635
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 3: very easily, I should say, which is what champions face

636
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 3: the biggest test at MMA in terms of their future.

637
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 3: You would point someone like Sergio Pettis, given the nature

638
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 3: of his win over Kiji Horrigucci. But you know, even

639
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 3: looking at the UFC champions, dude, I mean, I'm not

640
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 3: saying that all of them are gonna lose, especially Valentino Shipchenko.

641
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 3: She'll probably be here the same spot a year from now.

642
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: But dude, it is.

643
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Speaker 3: Perilous for everybody. It is perilous at flyweight for Brandon

644
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Speaker 3: bantso weight. Do I expect Aljaban's spilling to be a

645
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 3: champion of year's time? I don't. Bolkanowski's probably got another

646
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 3: showdown with Maxi's gonna have to answer for Charles O Lavera.

647
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 3: I mean, he's great, but come ons lightweight ousman, that's

648
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 3: a little bit different situation. We'll see what happens with him.

649
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 3: I'll love isra to Asignia perhaps more than anyone else,

650
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 3: but I can recognize that there are some fucking contenders

651
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 3: that division. He's gotta fight Robert Witaker again, Glover to

652
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 3: share a God bless him, the King of Connecticut, but

653
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 3: he's forty two. Francis has this mutant in Cyril Ghan

654
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 3: he has to fight, who's just a fucking beast. And

655
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 3: then you know rosami Uses and maybe the toughest division

656
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 3: in all women's MMA, like BC, They're all up for grabs,

657
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 3: are they not?

658
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, Juliana Pinya as well, following that upset yet right, look,

659
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: parody is incredible at the moment. And if there's a trend,

660
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: I'm looking for it. I don't know if it's a trend,

661
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: But Luke, there's so many people that are in and

662
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: around the category of elite. Maybe some of them we

663
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: consider them sub elite, so that when they figure it

664
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Speaker 1: out and go on a run like Charles Olivera has,

665
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: it blows our mind. We're like, Okay, we knew he

666
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: had that potential. I just didn't expect to see it.

667
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: I think you have to. It's hard to identify in

668
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: the crowd who's next to do that. But there's if

669
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: there's a trend to anything, it's someone sort of hitting

670
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: that early thirties, having already learned from lessons and defeats

671
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: and figuring out their right weight class and then going

672
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: on a run. It's as hard, maybe as it has

673
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: ever been to have the type of title defense reigns

674
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: that go down in the history books, the GSPS, the

675
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: Anderson Silvas, the John Jones until just now at bantamweight

676
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: Amanda Newness. It's really hard to do that what usmant's

677
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: trying to do, what a asign's trying to do. It's

678
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: killer after killer every single fight. I think, Luke, we're

679
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: seeing the full in this era evolve, evolution of you know,

680
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: people growing up not as specialists but as complete mixed

681
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: martial artists and figuring out through the early parts of

682
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: their career, you know, how to fix their stamina, how

683
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: to fix their mindset. And it is kill or be

684
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: killed in there, and it creates great parody. It's always

685
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: fun to bet on an underdog in a UFC title

686
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: fight because boy do they cash in Luke, and yeah,

687
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: who will face the toughest challenge as a champion. You

688
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: got about eight answers to that'll answer that everybody will

689
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: be Luke. And maybe that's what is part of what

690
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: makes the sport so great right now. I mean, you know,

691
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: we love when somebody goes on a rain, We love

692
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: when there's a superstar. But I love when I tune

693
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: in there and I don't know what's gonna happen next.

694
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: And you can argue we don't see that enough in boxing,

695
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: so that the moments that when we do, when we

696
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: can say no, guys, this is a true fifty to

697
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: fifty pay per view fight, which seems to be rare.

698
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: I feel like we get that every week in MMA.

699
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 3: I think that's absolutely right. So let's wrap up on

700
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Speaker 3: the MMA side of things with this BC. We're looking

701
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 3: ahead to twenty twenty two, but let's look back one

702
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 3: time when you think about big storylines that impacted what

703
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 3: is the story of MMA in twenty twenty one, I

704
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 3: guess is what I would ask.

705
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, aside from the business thing that we pointed out earlier, Look,

706
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: Connor McGregor fought twice for the first calendar year in

707
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: five years, and he lost both, and he lost both

708
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: badly by TKO, including one sort of major injury. And

709
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: even though his two returns Luke, according to John S

710
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: Nash's reporting, accounted for forty percent of UFC pay per

711
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: view sales, that only accounted for seven percent of UFC revenue.

712
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: So you're seeing how little leverage the fighters have. But again,

713
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: separate from the business, it's at thirty three, who is

714
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: Connor McGregor, What does he realistically have left? We you

715
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: and I love to argue that you know he was

716
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: too great at one point to count out that he

717
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: doesn't have any big wins left in him, but he's

718
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: as close to transitioning into a full time, you know,

719
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: event fighter than ever before, even if he gets the

720
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: Charles olivera controversial title opportunity next year, which you know

721
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: hasn't been decided. But I made an argument on Monday

722
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: Show why this kind of feels inevitable at this moment.

723
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: You're watching Luke, the greatest, you know, the greatest box

724
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: office fighter in this sport's history, hit a really uncertain

725
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: crossroads as we entered the new year.

726
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 3: No doubt it. I I echo that completely, but I

727
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 3: still think that the story of twenty twenty one in

728
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 3: MMA beyond just that is. And you kind of alluded

729
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 3: to it several times at this point, We've we've talked

730
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 3: about it several times. We'll just wrap it up here, Like, dude,

731
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 3: that was a great year, not just for UFC, although

732
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 3: it was certainly a great year for them. I feel

733
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 3: like Bellator had some ups and downs, but they had

734
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 3: some big wins certainly along the way. The arrival of

735
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,240
Speaker 3: AJ McKee and the way he has done. Sergio Pettis

736
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 3: was a great signing for them. It turns out getting

737
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 3: Kyoji Horr Gucci back it's one fight, I understand, but

738
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 3: it's relevant for them. They're gonna have that band Someway

739
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 3: tourney that they set up like. They had a lot

740
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 3: of decent moments in the year and PFL. This is

741
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 3: arguably pfl's best year ever.

742
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: It's not arguable. It's not arguable, Luke, it is by

743
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: far their best year ever.

744
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 3: Now one did take a bit of a back seat.

745
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 3: It's hard to know exactly why. They did raise a

746
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 3: bunch of money recently over one hundred and fifty million dollars,

747
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 3: but because of COVID.

748
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: Well your he seems to be too worried about that

749
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: reality show, Luke.

750
00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean I know people, people people. They added

751
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 3: us in the comments of one of his like stupid

752
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 3: ass posts about like oh, the the Apprentice net is

753
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 3: coming to Netflix, like five motherfuckers are gonna watch this.

754
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 3: But okay, neither here nor there. People attacked us in

755
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 3: there being like, hey, you guys were clowning him. Look

756
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 3: at him now. I'm like, yeah, look at him now

757
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 3: doing this doofish shit?

758
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,240
Speaker 1: Who wants to be Chatre's assistant? How about who wants

759
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: to make big fights in the US, which is what

760
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: they sort of promised entering last year, and which is.

761
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 3: What they tried. Remember they had those fights on TNT

762
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 3: and they fucking bombed because they.

763
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 1: Well they had them four weeks in a row and

764
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: then never again.

765
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 3: Right, So they have no footprint here, which is why

766
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 3: it's hard to do business here in that way. But

767
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 3: in any case, we'll see what happens with them in

768
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two. I do like their product when it works,

769
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 3: it works really well, and they had some wins themselves.

770
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 3: They have obviously had Busheta make a big debut for them.

771
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 3: I think he'll be a big fixture for them next

772
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 3: year and whatnot. So then how.

773
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: About for our Jen Boular representing the spirit of your

774
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: home nation, Luke.

775
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 3: That's right now in a clash with one because they

776
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 3: don't want to sign him to a new deal or

777
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 3: they do none of the terms he's asking, sort of

778
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 3: like fuck it, let's just create an interim belt because

779
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 3: fuck our champion. Right.

780
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: So hey, they they did that in the UFC over

781
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 1: the summer with Sarah God. I remember that.

782
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 3: Look, yes, yeah, exactly. The playbook is pretty similar our

783
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 3: team to team all right, we see, let's get a

784
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 3: topic too, same kind of discussion, but let's have it

785
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 3: around boxing a little bit here. So first question, what

786
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 3: was something that was happening in twenty twenty one that

787
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 3: you fully expect to become a big story in twenty

788
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 3: twenty two.

789
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: Well, you know, the continued success of this heavyweight renaissance,

790
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: which really wasn't exclusive to last year, although or I'm

791
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: sorry of this year. Although this calendar year we got

792
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: what a Fury Wilder three that exceeded our expectations by

793
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: leaps and bounds, even with Fury Anthony Joshua falling apart

794
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: due to typical boxing bullshit, and then we also got

795
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: Joshua getting upset by Alexander Usik. It could not this

796
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: heavyweight division, Luke, which you know, can never be overstated

797
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: how important the gateweight drug of big time heavyweight boxing

798
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 1: is to box crossover, mainstream appeal. We're in a pretty

799
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: damn good spot entering the new year, with talks of

800
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: aj Usik two coming our way, with Tyson Fury trying

801
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: to negotiate with Dillian White, although those seem to be

802
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: falling apart. I think at the very least, though, Luke,

803
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,720
Speaker 1: we could be looking at three to four heavyweight fights,

804
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 1: which do not include this Saturday's PBC on Fox pay

805
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 1: per view. More to come on that later, but outside

806
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: of that, Luke, I think we're gonna see three to

807
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,760
Speaker 1: four big time fights, and look, you can't you can't

808
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: underestimate what that means. I mean, dude, everyone cares when

809
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: Fury and Wilder, you know, or Joshua and somebody else fighting.

810
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: It just is what it is. And it seems like

811
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: the heavyweight division seems to transcend some of the typical

812
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: pitfalls which prevent big fights from happening between rival networks

813
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: and rival promoters, because everybody just knows it's such a

814
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: big deal when you can get two big names in

815
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: big stars together. And right now we still have a

816
00:37:55,719 --> 00:38:00,040
Speaker 1: vibrant pool of big names, aggressive fighters, vulnerable fighters. So

817
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: I love that trend to continue to get us closer

818
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,439
Speaker 1: to an undisputed champion. Will it happen in twenty twenty two,

819
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: Probably not, Luke, because that's how things work. But we

820
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 1: are getting closer, and that's super fun. I think that

821
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: same trend of guys going outside of their network, going

822
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: outside of their promotion to make big fights, we get

823
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: a little morsels here in there, Luke, We get a

824
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 1: little taste. We just said Sean Porter against Terrence Crawford

825
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: on ESPN, which was the same type of setup. It

826
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: was great. God, we need more of that, Luke. And

827
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: you know, can I also bring up pay per view

828
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: in general here, Luke?

829
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 3: Is this is this?

830
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: Is this a safe place to do that? I don't

831
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: know what the what the final numbers are on this, Paul?

832
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: Would the two pay per view? You hear rumors that

833
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: it that it did not do well. We'll have to see,

834
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: you know what show Time reports and what comes out.

835
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: But do we have too many pay per views in boxing? Yeah?

836
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: You know, and we have had too many pay per

837
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,439
Speaker 1: views in boxing? Ask you why in many years?

838
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 3: What's the well for for MMA fans who may not know,

839
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 3: what is the argument for why boxing who don't don't don't?

840
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 3: I know, you don't forget this, but we should say aloud.

841
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 3: When de Zone was introduced to the market, they're like,

842
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 3: pay per view is dead. This is the whole thing.

843
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 3: And even they are getting back at least a little

844
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 3: bit into the pay per view market. So what happened?

845
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: Well, look, we celebrate that boxers make what more, you know,

846
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,959
Speaker 1: the top end, but you know, the top not only

847
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 1: the top end, but really the second half of very

848
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: good to elite boxers get paid so much more on

849
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: average than MMA. But what happens, Luke, because of that is,

850
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: you know, networks can't afford to pay the guys to

851
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: put them on regular cable TV or put them on

852
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: national TV, and inevitably a lot of these fights just

853
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: to be made have to go to pay per view.

854
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: That's not long term sustainable for the product. And you

855
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 1: and I would never sit here because we love boxing,

856
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,720
Speaker 1: and to be fair, we make money off of boxing.

857
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: We would never sit here and try to hope that

858
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 1: the trend goes in the direction of more pay per

859
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 1: views bombing to be less of them. We would never

860
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: do that. But I wonder how sustainable in the long

861
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: term having so many pay per views, especially fights that,

862
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: let's be fair, Luke, are not pay per view level.

863
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: Is Luis Ortiz against Charles Martin on January first? Pay

864
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: per view level?

865
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 3: No?

866
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: Was Andy Ruiz versus Chris Ariela. No. I mean you

867
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: can argue. Let you know, when fighters get to a

868
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 1: certain star level, they really can't fight on anything but

869
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: pay per view because of what I just talked about,

870
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: how much money they demand and I guess we're sort

871
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: of a custom as fight fans that that's just what

872
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: happens in the UFC. Every month, you got to pay

873
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: for a pay per view. It's it's what it is,

874
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: it's the model. But I hope a trend changes and

875
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: turns that. Look, we've got a problem in boxing on

876
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 1: pay per view. Not only are the undercards just not

877
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: on the level of a UFC so maybe the top

878
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: guys aren't getting paid, but UFC pay per views are

879
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: pretty loaded from top to bottom. I want to see

880
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: more caring concern for the customer in twenty twenty two,

881
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: and that's across all networks. To just say, look, I

882
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: get that the pay per view seems the easiest way

883
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: to try to make this fight happen, but how much

884
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: are we hurting the sport long term? Especially in the

885
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: era Luke where we can't lie in turn away from it.

886
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: It's easier to illegally stream a pay per view than

887
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: ever ever, ever before. How much longer can this go

888
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: on putting fights on that really don't meet that level.

889
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 1: The market will dictate it, and I'm not cheering for

890
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: people to stop buying them, so it changes it. But

891
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: any time boxing teams to take big steps forward and

892
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 1: getting fighters to the mainstream. It can also equally take

893
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: big steps back by putting fights to the mainstream that

894
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 1: either don't deserve to be there, or by putting fights

895
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: on pay per view that don't deserve to be there.

896
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: There's really no fix for this, Luke, because this is

897
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: the same problem every year for boxing over the past

898
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 1: twenty years. But you know, boy, would I like to

899
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,280
Speaker 1: stay optimistic and see a change.

900
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 3: I think a fair point. It's an interesting one as well.

901
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 3: I guess we're going to see what happens to twenty

902
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 3: to twenty two. I don't expect that trend to abate

903
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 3: very much, but one never knows. What do you think

904
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 3: of my trend idea? Now, I want to be clear

905
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 3: about this, BC. I'm not saying that this is a

906
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 3: huge trend. I want to say this is, in fact,

907
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 3: something kind of small that maybe I'm piecing together that

908
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 3: isn't there. And in twenty twenty two, I'm not saying

909
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 3: that the growth will be dramatic, far from it. But

910
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 3: what I am saying is that you might see growth

911
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty two that you didn't see in any

912
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 3: other previous year. For quite some time around this sport,

913
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 3: namely women's boxing. I have been a big critic of

914
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 3: women's boxing and I still think that they haven't gotten

915
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 3: the rules right. The round should be three minutes, and

916
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 3: I do maintain I really believe this. I think the

917
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 3: glove should be smaller. I think it would add a

918
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 3: dynamism to the game that is currently a little bit missing.

919
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 3: But even with those considerations, not really something we can

920
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 3: bank on changing. There's a few big fights that we

921
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 3: know are in the war, are potentially in the work,

922
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 3: so certainly so. Rono Katie Taylor fight Bekayla Mayer made

923
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 3: a little bit of noise on ESPN this year. You

924
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,720
Speaker 3: see what obviously she's going back and forth, but Clarissa Shield,

925
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 3: which she's doing in MMA and boxing. Again, going back

926
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 3: to my previous thesis of the sports kind of intertwining

927
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 3: and clumsy but sometimes unique and interesting ways. I think

928
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 3: you might actually see a little bit more momentum for

929
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 3: women's boxing in two not just the big fights, but

930
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 3: just as a matter of more routine visibility on cards

931
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 3: that matter, a couple of big names that matter, a

932
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,760
Speaker 3: couple of big fights that matter. Again, not a huge

933
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 3: explosion where all of a sudden everyone just loves women's boxing.

934
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 3: I don't think that, but I think it might have

935
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 3: its best year that it's had in quite some time.

936
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Luke, And look, the model is already there from

937
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: what both Strikeforce and UFC did you know seven eight

938
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: years ago to bring you know, women's fighting to the

939
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: forefront and show people again. I say again, because you know,

940
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: women's boxing has had some moments through the years where

941
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 1: people cared whether it's Christy Martin, le Lee, etcetera. But

942
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: look the early you know, Strikeforce UFC showed with the

943
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: Rousey run that you bring personalities to the forefront and

944
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: match them in competitive fights, you're gonna see magic. But

945
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: you know it doesn't there's no divide anymore of a

946
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: I just don't want to see females hurt each other

947
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: like that. That's gone. It can be that way in boxing.

948
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: The larger problem, of course, is the lack of a

949
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: of a pool of credible fighters outside of the three

950
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 1: four five stars that people know and like. Hopefully, Luke,

951
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: this generation, which you're hinting at, having momentum entoring the

952
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: new calendar year, will start to turn out younger fighters

953
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 1: and populate this sport. It was dead for a while,

954
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: it wasn't on network TV for a while. Meaning women's boxing,

955
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: I think you're right, I would love. What I love

956
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: most about it, Luke, is that they make fun. When

957
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 1: you finally get great matchups, the fights are exciting as crap,

958
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 1: They're great, you know what I mean? I would love

959
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: if there was one promoter or network or I mean,

960
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: you're not gonna what would we all wish for in

961
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,439
Speaker 1: boxing organization? Tough to say that, but imagine if even

962
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: like one promoter or network could just bring in all

963
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: the top female fighters and push them out in one

964
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: central format. I'm not saying what an all female pay

965
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 1: per view card sell big money, not necessarily saying that,

966
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: but I'm saying you have stars both in ability wise

967
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: and potentially in terms of their commercial marketing, you know,

968
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: whether it's may or Katie Taylor Shields like you're mentioning,

969
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, big, big time appeal in a

970
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 1: lot of ways. I hope they get what they deserve. Obviously,

971
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: someone like a Man of Serrano, who has toiled for

972
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: so long, you know, setting records and doing great things

973
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, is getting more of a close up

974
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 1: because of Jake Paul. But we got to make these

975
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: big fights like Taylor versus Serrano, and we got to

976
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: put them as much as we can to the masses

977
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: to get people to realize that there's something here.

978
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 3: You might be right. I don't know if there's even

979
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 3: a way to do like a tournament, because there's the

980
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 3: weight classes are so fractured and thin, and I don't

981
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 3: think we're there yet. But it'd be kind of cool

982
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 3: if at some point promoters actually did a tournament and

983
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 3: he had a couple of decent fights halfway through. I

984
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 3: think you'd be surprised about what kind of results you

985
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 3: could actually get.

986
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if you can get everybody

987
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: to sign up. But the good news toward that idea, Luke,

988
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: is that we've seen Clarisa Shield's debut at one hundred

989
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 1: and sixty eight pounds and fight as low as one

990
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: fifty four and sometimes throw around the idea. She comically says, look,

991
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,240
Speaker 1: I'll only go down to one forty seven and eliminate

992
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: my booty for big time money. You know she's even

993
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: entertaining that idea. You've seen Amanda Serrano fight over what

994
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 1: seven weight classes? You're seeing fighters say, I want the

995
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: big money, I want the accomplishments, I want the glory.

996
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: They're willing to go far and wait up or down

997
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: to try to make that happen. So to your point,

998
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: you would love something. I don't know if if an

999
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: open weight centralized tournament within a certain larger weight group

1000
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: is the answer. I would love to see something where

1001
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: where these fighters get a close up or at least

1002
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 1: be at least populate these matchups, especially when they're well matched,

1003
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 1: you know, as co main events or as even you know,

1004
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: main events, as we've seen with with Katie Taylor and

1005
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: Claressa Shields more often b C.

1006
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 3: Same kind of question to you. I mean, obviously boxing

1007
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 3: is different because you've got a million champions per weight class.

1008
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 3: But is there some kind of major, established champion you

1009
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 3: see handing over some belts next year?

1010
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think I think to alter that question, as

1011
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 1: you sort of tease, it's it's not just which champion

1012
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:00,280
Speaker 1: could be most endanger, it's more which weight classes should

1013
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: we focus on in twenty twenty two that could have

1014
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 1: the most amount of excitement. So, look, it's always going

1015
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: to be heavyweight in welterweight because that's the Glamour division

1016
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: and the money division. But Luke, let's watch out for

1017
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 1: light heavyweight, because even though Canelo Alvarez had that little brief,

1018
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: you know, tease with the idea of going to cruiserweight

1019
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,439
Speaker 1: and fighting Makabu, which we find out after the fact

1020
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: that Canela didn't even know as trainer and manager Eddie

1021
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:27,760
Speaker 1: Renoso was going to announce that at the WBC convention.

1022
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: It caught Canelo by surprise. So I think it's much

1023
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: more likely. As much as I'd love Canelo to fight

1024
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: David Benavidez at one sixty eight or Jamal Charlow or whatever,

1025
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: I think it's potentially in play for Canelo to go

1026
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: up to one seventy five and one by one try

1027
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 1: to do what he just did at one sixty eight,

1028
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: try to pick off each champion, make each step in

1029
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: that journey a big event. I mean, look, you already

1030
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,439
Speaker 1: know this. There's some good ass fighters at one seventy five.

1031
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: The champions right now are Joe Smith Junior, who's got

1032
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: big time power even if he's a little bit raw,

1033
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: Dmitri bv who's unbeaten and can box circles around people,

1034
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 1: and obviously our guy Arthur Bietro Biev, who's just a destroyer,

1035
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: although he's aging. If Canelo cleaned out that division of champions,

1036
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how much more praise we

1037
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 1: can give him. We might have to open mouth kiss him, Luke,

1038
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: just to let him know how much we appreciate him.

1039
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: That division could be one to watch because of Canelo,

1040
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: but so obviously could one thirty five. Who's the champion

1041
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 1: who's gonna be under the most pressure this year? George

1042
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,280
Speaker 1: Cambosis Junior, who upset the Apple Cart to win three

1043
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: or four, depending again upon your stance of those titles.

1044
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: He's gonna whether it's Devin Haney next or whoever it is,

1045
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: there is an unlimited amount of big name fighters who

1046
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: are gonna be gunning for him. That division's gonna be

1047
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 1: a shit ton fun to watch, Luke, As is a

1048
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 1: division Showtime invested a lot in and got big results

1049
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: this calendar year one twenty two. You can call it

1050
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: junior featherweight. You can call it superbandom.

1051
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 3: Waight.

1052
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: You got Steven Fulton Junior. I don't know if Brandon

1053
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: Figuero is gonna try to stick around for a rematch.

1054
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: You've got Danny Roman. You've got the other dude, what's

1055
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: his name, mj Achmadaliev, who holds two of four belts.

1056
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: You've got a leam, You've got some names here, Luca,

1057
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 1: guys that are coming. So those are some tough divisions

1058
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 1: with big time players to watch.

1059
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 3: No doubt about it. I love that answer. Yeah, I

1060
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 3: think you're right. Also, you know, let's see what happens

1061
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 3: with Spence and Crawford. We say this every fucking year,

1062
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 3: it seems like, but now we'll see exactly where Bud craft.

1063
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 3: If Bud Crawford signs with a PBC, who knows, who knows?

1064
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 3: What could happen there a lots time? How about this,

1065
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 3: Luke possibil.

1066
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 1: How about Aerol Spence Junior fights your Danis Ugas, which

1067
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: seems to be the three belt welterweight unification that both

1068
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: the WBA and the other two stactioning bodies are angling towards.

1069
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: Let's say Terrence Crawford does sign with the PBC and

1070
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: makes the title defense in the first quarter against you

1071
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: name it. Let's get creative. Whoever could we see Spence

1072
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: Crawford at the end of the year, provided Bud goes

1073
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 1: to the PBC for all four belts, Luke, if they

1074
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: all get there.

1075
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 3: I'll say this BC, I'll say this. I think I'll

1076
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 3: say this if Crawford signed excuse me, if yes, if

1077
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 3: Crawford signs with PBC. I don't think Crawford Versuspense would

1078
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 3: be next, but I do think you would get it

1079
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 3: by the end of the year. The question is what

1080
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 3: is he going to do? And I will say this.

1081
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 3: If he doesn't sign with PBC and signs wherever the fuck,

1082
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 3: I think the chance of seeing at zero at that point.

1083
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 3: At that point I would write it off completely, Luke.

1084
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: I would like to see the Charlo brothers have big years.

1085
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: I would like to find out how great they are.

1086
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 1: I think both had a little bit of a stumble

1087
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two. Now look, Jamal fought Brian Castano

1088
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,399
Speaker 1: to an incredibly all action draw. It was so fun.

1089
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 1: They're going to rematch earlier this year. I can't wait

1090
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: to see it. You know, Castano's in play for that one,

1091
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 1: of course. And Jamal Charlo at middleweight had that very

1092
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: tough title defense in which he looked very human. Whether

1093
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 1: it's Jamal getting triple G or Andrew or you know

1094
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 1: Canelo for that matter or Benevetez, I would love to

1095
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 1: you know that he'd have to move up to one

1096
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,439
Speaker 1: sixty eight for most of those. I'd love to see

1097
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 1: both really find out in their early thirties here who

1098
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 1: they are and we can find out for sure whether

1099
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: they're legitimately Pomferpound great fighters or whether they're you know,

1100
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: not on that level. I think both have been marketable

1101
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: at times and both really have yet to put it

1102
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 1: all together on the highest platform. I hope they get

1103
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:25,879
Speaker 1: that chance.

1104
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt about it. Going back to Crawford very quickly,

1105
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 3: I think he's thirty four if memory served, so that

1106
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 3: is the age that Michael Chandler was when he switched

1107
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 3: from bellatora UFC. I mean to say definitely by no

1108
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 3: means done. But if you're gonna have big fights that

1109
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 3: really matter, it's this next career chapter where they have

1110
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 3: to happen. Otherwise they're essentially not going to or otherwise

1111
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 3: happen at a time when they're meaningless.

1112
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: So, Luke, I want to ask you final predictions here

1113
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,720
Speaker 1: where will Jake Paul be to close twenty twenty two quickly?

1114
00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: Because people don't want to go along on this, but quickly.

1115
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think it really depends on what kind of

1116
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 3: uh I won't say enemies, what kind of opponents he

1117
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 3: can get. If he can reasonably lure somebody like a

1118
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 3: Nate Diaz to his side of things, I think he

1119
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,399
Speaker 3: can do big things. But if it ends up being

1120
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 3: Tommy Fury and I have again, people forget about this.

1121
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 3: It's just worth pointing out that k Over over Woodley

1122
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 3: was spectacular. I mean there is. It just keeps showing

1123
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 3: up on my feed even without showtime accounts. It's just

1124
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 3: one of those things because it was so good. But

1125
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 3: the fight before it was horrific. You know, I don't

1126
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 3: know what Tommy Fury is gonna do for him from

1127
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 3: a pay per view sales standpoint, or if the fight

1128
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 3: is not that great, but I think a Daz situation

1129
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 3: could give him. Here's the thing with Diaz, Dude, if

1130
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 3: Paul and Diaz fight, maybe stupid, maybe you don't want

1131
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 3: to see it, maybe you hate it, fine, whatever, but

1132
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 3: if they fight, I think it could be big to

1133
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 3: the point BC where if Jake Paul lures a Nate

1134
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,919
Speaker 3: Diaz over and let's say it makes a fuck ton

1135
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:05,879
Speaker 3: of money, just shy of two million buys right. That

1136
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:10,959
Speaker 3: genre could have life beyond Jake Paul. It really could.

1137
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 3: It's possible to find that. Now. A lot of this

1138
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 3: is the Jake Paul situation. It's feaster famine or whatever,

1139
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 3: which is kind of what you're asking. But I wonder

1140
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 3: if could you create an event so big that it

1141
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 3: ends up spawning a lot of copycats to try and

1142
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 3: do something pretty similar, and could they pull that off?

1143
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 3: I wonder about that, I really do. I wonder if

1144
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 3: he doesn't get Nate and then the whole shit just

1145
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:31,280
Speaker 3: dies this year, because that's awesome.

1146
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, simultaneous with that, with the experiments by

1147
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: like Chad Johnson and Darren Williams and Francore, will that

1148
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: lead more recently retired pro sports athletes to join. I

1149
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: don't know. You know, if you tell me Jake's gonna

1150
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 1: fight Chaves Junior and Anderson Silva next year, that could

1151
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 1: keep things going. You know, he'd have to win some

1152
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 1: tough fights, but that could keep the momentum going. I

1153
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,879
Speaker 1: don't know. Didn't Sports illustrated just right that Jake said

1154
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: he wants to play safety in the NFL. I don't

1155
00:53:58,600 --> 00:53:59,919
Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen in twenty twenty.

1156
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 3: I'm not really going to pay attention to that.

1157
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: Will we be talking about Triller to close next year

1158
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:07,720
Speaker 1: at all?

1159
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 3: Probably for like bad shit, okay, right, twenty twenty one

1160
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 3: was not their best year. I mean I think even

1161
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 3: they would say that. I mean, they had some things

1162
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 3: that could probably hang their hat on that, you know,

1163
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 3: weren't a total disaster. But they had a lot of

1164
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 3: disasters this year. I mean just a cambosis, dude. I mean,

1165
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 3: thinking about what Cambosis did to Teo Femo. They were

1166
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 3: going to pay him six million plus, which was like

1167
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 3: way over the asking price. I guess in that sense

1168
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 3: they got away from it. But the point being is

1169
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 3: they fucked that fight up. They had to rearrange it

1170
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 3: by essentially by the time the zone got it, it was

1171
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 3: its ninth iteration, and it was this massive upset that

1172
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 3: they could have had, and they fucked it all up.

1173
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 3: I mean it was. It was not a money year

1174
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 3: for them, I'll put it that much, and I don't

1175
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 3: think that will change a whole lot in twenty twenty two.

1176
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 1: Look, I've got a couple quick hitters related to predictions

1177
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 1: for twenty twenty two that I'd like to ask you,

1178
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 1: would you be willing to give me two minutes of

1179
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: your time? Yeah, let's do it, okay, I think we

1180
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: can both agree. Although we didn't really you know, handout awards,

1181
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 1: it seems to be played out that Kamara Usman on

1182
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: the MMA side and Canela Alvas on the boxing side

1183
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 1: seemed to have locked that shit up for Fighter of

1184
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: the year. Do you have a guess in early feeling

1185
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: on who could close twenty twenty two in both combat

1186
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: sports with the same Fighter of the year hardware being raised?

1187
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 3: Like somebody who could get it for boxing and MMA?

1188
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: No, in each sports, separate, separate choice, like who's going

1189
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 1: to have the best year? Yeah? Just I want I

1190
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: want a prediction. Let's go on the record here, Luke,

1191
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 1: who's your Fighter of the year in both sports? As

1192
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 1: we look.

1193
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 3: Ahead, I think in boxing the Fighter of the Year

1194
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 3: is probably gonna be it might be Tyson Fury, depending

1195
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 3: on what he does. They get some easy because if

1196
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 3: he fights Usick and White and then maybe I don't know,

1197
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 3: Joshua one more time or one one more time at all.

1198
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,959
Speaker 3: Rather I should say that could be really really fucking big.

1199
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 3: But you know, it's just a lot of tinging on that.

1200
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 3: In the MMA side, I'd say Valentina, but she doesn't

1201
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 3: have the right opponents at this point, so I don't

1202
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 3: know about that. So I would actually say, I'm gonna

1203
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 3: have my eye on. Of all people, You're gonna laugh

1204
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 3: at me a little bit, but I think he's gonna

1205
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 3: have a at the end of the year. I'll have

1206
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 3: a breakout year. I'm told he's trying to get to

1207
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 3: a new contract due I think very highly of Shotcott Rochmanov.

1208
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 3: I know you're laughing at me, because everyone wants to say.

1209
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,760
Speaker 1: I didn't laugh. I laughed at when you said Cyril

1210
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 1: Gone will one day hold the UFC heavyweight title, And

1211
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:43,439
Speaker 1: look at us now, Luke.

1212
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:45,839
Speaker 3: I think he will, and I think he will this year.

1213
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 3: I do. I think very highly of him, So the

1214
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 3: only question for him is I think his manager is

1215
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 3: trying to get him a new deal, which is a

1216
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 3: standard practice, like fight out this deal and to get

1217
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 3: a new one. So he may have a bunch of

1218
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 3: fights that aren't that big a deal. He just tries

1219
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 3: to work through the contract. But I think once they

1220
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:04,799
Speaker 3: start putting good guys in front of him and he's

1221
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 3: mowing them down, I think everyone's gonna wake up a

1222
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 3: little bit to this dude. I think he's extremely special.

1223
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 3: We just need to see him in the right fights.

1224
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 3: If it's not twenty twenty two between I honestly think

1225
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 3: he's going to be in a title fight in the

1226
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 3: next two years, maybe next year.

1227
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 1: So all right, I'm looking at boxing basically the winner

1228
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: of Aerol Spence against Bud Crawford, because I think both

1229
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: of them are going to have interesting first half matchups

1230
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 1: and if they can fight each other in the second one, Luke,

1231
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 1: I mean that's the highest level.

1232
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 3: Stands like Blood Crawford.

1233
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think that's number you know, three

1234
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: verses four on the Power Powder rankings. For two versus

1235
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: two versus three. I mean, like, you win that, you know,

1236
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 1: and get two total wins, you're the fighter of the year.

1237
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: Also obviously Gravonte Davis. If he can continue, Luke, to

1238
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: keep you know, uh matching up and really try to

1239
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 1: take on big opportunities, maybe he goes to one forty.

1240
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 1: Maybe he can crash this party of big names at

1241
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 1: one thirty five and lure a Ryan Garcia. I'd love

1242
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 1: to see that development. He's in play. MMA's wild. It's

1243
00:57:57,720 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: hard to predict. But as much as you are high

1244
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 1: on did you say rock Mananov.

1245
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 3: Luke shof cut Rockmanov?

1246
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, rock Moanonov is that German. That's a Willy

1247
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 1: Wonka reference, Luke. I don't even put the nineties. That's

1248
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 1: a nineteen seventies reference. I'm gonna say uh. In the

1249
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 1: same regard Islam Mahachev is coming, Luke, Well, so you know,

1250
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 1: I'll get on board now and say uh and saying,

1251
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 1: you know, considering how awesome that division is, if he's

1252
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 1: going to get to the top of it by the

1253
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 1: end of next year, he's gonna have a Fighter of

1254
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: the Year worthy resume to have done that to get there,

1255
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 1: So be on the lookout for that, you know. Do

1256
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 1: you have any MK predictions for twenty twenty two, Luke.

1257
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 3: I think we went on the road a lot this

1258
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 3: past year. I think we'll go I think we're gonna

1259
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 3: bring that desk to more places next year. I'm pretty

1260
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 3: confident about that. And I really this is you know,

1261
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 3: I'll say this out loud because this is just what

1262
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 3: I want. I want our If we're gonna be on

1263
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 3: the road for for showtime stuff, I want our MK.

1264
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 3: You know, post fight show, not that it's been some

1265
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 3: kind of afterthought. I don't mean that they've taken I

1266
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 3: always gon't be very clear about this Showtime has taken

1267
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 3: unbelievably good care of us and always does and always will.

1268
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 3: You have to earn any kind of spot you get,

1269
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 3: and I intend on earning it, right, so through the

1270
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 3: earning process, but as we earn it, BC, I would

1271
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 3: like to have the post fight show we do be

1272
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 3: a you know, be a big deal, like be a

1273
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 3: different kind of production where fighters come through, we get

1274
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 3: to talk to them like its own separate kind of

1275
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,439
Speaker 3: thing rather than just the reaction, which it is, which

1276
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Speaker 3: I'm grateful for. But you know what I'm saying, I'm

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Speaker 3: always thinking ahead. That's it.

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Speaker 1: I want to do a post fight show in the arena,

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Speaker 1: Luke pay per views, right, I want to be that

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00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 1: team that du all. So let's see if we can

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Speaker 1: get there. And you know I said it on Monday's show, Luke.

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Speaker 1: People didn't think we can win that award, right, the

1283
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 1: World MMA Award's Best MMA Programming. Some people are like, hey,

1284
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Speaker 1: what are you guys gonna do?

1285
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 2: Now?

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00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 1: Run for president? What's the next thing you could think of?

1287
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 1: That guy jjwana keeps winning, right, eleven years in a row.

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00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 1: Whatever they call that Best Journalist from there? Luke? Yeah,

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01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 1: what if we teamed up together and what after? What

1290
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 1: if Best Journalists of the Year was a duo?

1291
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Speaker 3: But I'm not one, so I couldn't win that one.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not a journalist, neither of you.

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Speaker 3: Luke.

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01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 1: You're not even I don't know why at l Thomas

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01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 1: News here there's nothing. There's nothing newsworthy about you, Luca.

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Speaker 3: No one cares more about the names of my social

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01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 3: media handles or my facial hair than you.

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Speaker 1: You saw that coming. I had a facial hair joke

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Speaker 1: coming right after that.

1300
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 3: Because you are obsessed with it. You're predictable at this point.

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Speaker 1: All right? Will we win that award next year?

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Speaker 3: Luke?

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01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 1: Not forget, forget the hell on anyone forget best Journalists

1304
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: that's in all pill battle. Will we win Best MMA

1305
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 1: Programming back to back?

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01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 3: Brother, only if the donks put us there. It is

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01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 3: in their hands BC, and they're capable of their hands

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01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 3: just the same. All right.

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Speaker 1: My final question to you, look before we get out

1310
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 1: of this segment, is if you ask me the fights

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Speaker 1: that I want to see the most next year. Obviously

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01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 1: you get like Spence, Crawford, Fury, Usic all that shit

1313
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 1: in MMA. Damn? Do I really want to see connorverse

1314
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 1: is Tony Ferguson? And in boxing? Luke, I really really

1315
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 1: really want to see Jervonte Davis versus Ryan Garcia. It's

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01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 1: gonna be fireworks, It's gonna be wild, right. Do you

1317
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 1: have any fights in that in that lane that you know?

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01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 1: They could be spectacular top of the billing fights or

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01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 1: they could just be I need to see this matchup.

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Speaker 1: What is itching you entering.

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Speaker 3: The new year? I'd like to see Gaichee versus Connor.

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01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 3: I really want to see that one. I think that'd

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01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 3: be a fun matchup, a very fun matchup. I am

1324
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 3: curious about if he can even make it to the cage.

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Speaker 3: I'm curious to see what John Jones looks like. You know,

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Speaker 3: ye kind of because obviously, let's listen us. We said

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Speaker 3: it with jan y Lee will say it here. You know,

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01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 3: I do think you be with Henry Suhudo. It could

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Speaker 3: only be a benefit. But you know, John is a mess,

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Speaker 3: so it's hard to say that's a big one. I

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01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 3: will say that, you know, light heavyweight to me is

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01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 3: still in upheaval. You know, obviously Glovers the king of

1333
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 3: it now. But yeah, that's a tough division to reign

1334
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Speaker 3: right now, no matter who you are. And there's a

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01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:05,479
Speaker 3: lot of parody certainly in there.

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Speaker 1: So you're saying you want to see Prohotska versus Anklaia

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Speaker 1: next year for the title, that's what you're saying.

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Speaker 3: I think we just might, whether I want to or not,

1339
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. I also think dude at Asanya,

1340
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 3: like he has held the belt for a long time,

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Speaker 3: if he can make it out of twenty twenty two

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Speaker 3: still with the belt over his shoulder, that would be

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Speaker 3: unbelievably impressive. And mean, what he's already done is beyond impressive.

1344
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Speaker 2: But to do that, I can't wait.

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Speaker 1: For their trilogy. What Whitaker out of Sonya three to

1346
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 1: close next year?

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be great, could be all right, b C.

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Speaker 3: Well that's it for our two big topics. Let's do

1349
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Speaker 3: some quick hitters if we can. Now you had mentioned

1350
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Speaker 3: for topic number three, Francis and Ganu. His manager apparently

1351
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 3: has let me pull this over here, so to keep

1352
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 3: looking so far, here we go. His manager has said

1353
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 3: he hasn't spoken to the UFC in about six months.

1354
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 3: But Francis Is first pissed about sparring footage that apparently

1355
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 3: his camp leaked that makes him look bad. Quote. When

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01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 3: I saw that footage, my first reaction was laughing because

1357
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:03,919
Speaker 3: I know exactly what happened at those training sessions. Here's

1358
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 3: the thing, when they wanted to like do some highlight,

1359
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 3: they always choose the part of the video that they use,

1360
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 3: and they have a lot of videos that like that.

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Speaker 3: They were filming our training session to promote him his

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Speaker 3: fight and everything, So there was a lot of foodsih

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Speaker 3: in those few training sessions. He just says, I'm thinking,

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Speaker 3: I'm like, wow, how easy is it to manipulate people?

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01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 3: Which they're really good at manipulation. But at the end

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01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 3: of the day, as I said, we both know everyone

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01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 3: knows for a fact. Does everyone know for a fact?

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Speaker 3: Bec I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what's the motivation here. I know that

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Speaker 1: Team Gone has a right to be upset at the

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01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 1: way the fallout of losing Francis went. And obviously this

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01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 1: fight will be a close up again. You'll see all

1373
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 1: the columns written in the stories about you know, how

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01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 1: the relationship fell apart and did they actually train and

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01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 1: spar together more than that one time? Do they put

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01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 1: this out to try to anger Francis? Is their game

1377
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 1: plan and mindset built upon Let's get this guy away

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01:03:56,200 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 1: from the more technical destroyer he was in the steep

1379
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 1: A rematch and get him back to just being angry

1380
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Speaker 1: destroyer and that will fall into their hands with Gon's quickness, encounter,

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Speaker 1: punching and footwork. Luke, is that the lane they're trying

1382
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 1: to go or is this more about Spie.

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01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 3: I don't know these camps, I mean to I interviewed

1384
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 3: obviously the head of MMA Factory and fernand Lopez, and

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01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 3: he was like, oh, we don't know why Francis is

1386
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 3: so mad at us, and then Francis is like, these

1387
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 3: fucking guys are out to get me. It's hard to

1388
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 3: know exactly why we're at the stage we're at and

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01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 3: what it all means. But I do expect. I think

1390
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 3: Cyril Gan's gonna win, so we'll see how that goes.

1391
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Speaker 3: But the bigger one was from his manager, Marcel Martin

1392
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 3: of CAA Your Favorite Place BC. Speaking of Serious XM,

1393
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 3: he said, quote from the beginning, we've always and stilled

1394
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 3: do remain open to negotiating with UFC. Even from my

1395
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:55,440
Speaker 3: standpoint and his business reputation standpoint, UFC is the best

1396
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:57,919
Speaker 3: MMA promoter in the game in this business. However, where

1397
01:04:57,920 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 3: a lot of people don't want to come out and

1398
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 3: say or mean it is that it has to make

1399
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 3: sense for the client. It has to make sense for Francis.

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Speaker 3: At the end of the day, I work for Francis,

1401
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 3: and he and I spent a lot of time chatting

1402
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 3: back and forth and try and understand, Okay, where does

1403
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 3: what does this mean for his future? And we've had

1404
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 3: a lot of back and forth with UFC, but to

1405
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 3: be honest with you, I haven't heard back from them

1406
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 3: since June BC.

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01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, that seems problematic when your fighters entering the final

1408
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 1: fight of his career, of his current contract. Leough, Obviously

1409
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 1: we know if Francis wins what they can they automatically

1410
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 1: extend it. Luke, every time you win a title fight.

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01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 1: Is that true?

1412
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 3: Uh? Well they basically yes, basically.

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Speaker 1: You know, John Nash had a great reaction to this

1414
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 1: on Twitter. For as much as him and I sometimes

1415
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 1: can go back and forth in the DMS, you fuck off,

1416
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 1: John Nash, you know, saying, you know what do you

1417
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 1: want MMA managers to do to bow down to Daniel.

1418
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 1: They're like, this guy's doing his job. Obviously, this situation

1419
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 1: is so hot button is going to be interesting on

1420
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 1: the fallout of this fight. But am I conspiracy theorying

1421
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 1: knowing that this guy works for CIA and that UFC

1422
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 1: is owned by Endeavor, you know, which has under its

1423
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 1: under its umbrella a rival agency? Is that part of it?

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01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 2: Luke?

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01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 1: Is that partly?

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01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 3: Yeah? So I would answer the question by asking it

1427
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 3: this way. If he wasn't part of CIA, but otherwise

1428
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 3: saying exactly what he was saying and advocating for what

1429
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 3: he was advocating, would he get a different reaction from UFC?

1430
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 3: I doubt it. Does it help that he's with CIA? No,

1431
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:33,439
Speaker 3: it definitely doesn't fucking help, Luke.

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Speaker 1: What was the root of the initial fallout between Dana

1433
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 1: White and UFC, brass And and Ganu following his loss to

1434
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 1: Stepe in the first fight? You remember that whole scenario

1435
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 1: They said he got too big for his breitches and

1436
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 1: that he was what do you remember that whole deal? Like,

1437
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 1: what was that really about?

1438
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 3: I don't know what it was really about, because they

1439
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 3: were like, oh, you know, he's too big for his bridges,

1440
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 3: and he went back to Paris and he was, you know,

1441
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 3: he was just fucking around basically, and so it was

1442
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 3: long after that where he left and then moved his

1443
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 3: camp basically in his life, to Las Vegas. I don't know.

1444
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 3: I don't know the answers. I don't know.

1445
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 1: Do you feel like they were angry at him? Because

1446
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 1: you got to remember when he knocked out Alistair over

1447
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 1: him at the end of what twenty sixteen, maybe twenty seventeen,

1448
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 1: twenty sixty, one of those two Luke, which I think

1449
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 1: is the most devastating knockout in the history of the sport.

1450
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 1: They fast tracked the shit out of him into a

1451
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 1: title fight like a month and a half later against Steepe.

1452
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 1: They were doing the whole We've got the Mike Tyson

1453
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 1: of MMA. Obviously, this is the type of fighter at

1454
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 1: that point that Dana would dream of. They put a

1455
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 1: lot into him, and look, he laid an egg against Stepe.

1456
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 1: It was a real exposure of his lack of ground game,

1457
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 1: stam and all that stuff. Right, you think Dana and

1458
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:48,200
Speaker 1: company were like, what the what the f dude, You're

1459
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 1: supposed to be our guy and you dropped that shit,

1460
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 1: and now we find out, you know, beyond the scenes,

1461
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 1: you think you're a superstar and you're all that is

1462
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 1: that part of it, Lucramucha. I'm grasping for straws.

1463
01:07:57,480 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 3: Right, a little bit grasping. I just think the UFC

1464
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 3: is kind of like with anyone who wants to assert

1465
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 3: their own vision for themselves. I mean, remember at that

1466
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 3: exact same time, or at least not too far from that,

1467
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 3: they were beefing with Steepe Steepe. It was like, I'm

1468
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:12,440
Speaker 3: the greatest ever at heavyweight and I don't feel like

1469
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 3: I'm respected and blah blah blah blah blah. You know.

1470
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 3: I mean there's a lot of that storyline going around

1471
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 3: as well. One thing we haven't talked about also BC,

1472
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Speaker 3: like for like twenty five two predictions is who's going

1473
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 3: to be the next Champ Champ. I wonder if that

1474
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 3: might slow a little bit, you know, I haven't heard

1475
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 3: a lot of talk about that.

1476
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:33,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it could, It could be. It could

1477
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:35,599
Speaker 1: be shift changing. We don't know what's gonna happen here

1478
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 1: with the whole Juliana Payna situation. It seems dan On

1479
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 1: company want to go right back to the Newness rematch. Right,

1480
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:43,200
Speaker 1: there's calling it already. It's gonna be the biggest women's

1481
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 1: fight in history. Okay, that's great. It's probably gonna be

1482
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 1: really fun in the build up and we get to it.

1483
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 1: The betting odds makers will tell you Amanda will fix

1484
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 1: the glitch, eliminate Matt Sarah from her life, right and

1485
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 1: just kind of move on. Okay, who knows. Maybe Paanya

1486
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 1: beats or twice in a row. And it shocks us

1487
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:00,599
Speaker 1: if Penya does hang on to that title in any form, Luke,

1488
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 1: you gotta feel like that's pain Chefchenko's opportunity to really

1489
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 1: cement herself in the history books. And even if Amanda

1490
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 1: comes out of that with the title God, Valentina still

1491
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 1: wants that trilogy real bad. I wonder if she's the

1492
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 1: next champ Champ, Luke, And I want to side that

1493
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 1: with how close are we whether it's Belator, whether it's

1494
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 1: UFC to the first triple champ in major mma? I

1495
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 1: say major because I don't know. Did it happen once

1496
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:31,519
Speaker 1: in regional mma? Maybe? I mean, you know, guys fall

1497
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 1: out of the sky in regional mma, Luke. Sometimes they

1498
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:35,720
Speaker 1: put matts down because it's raining in the cage in

1499
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 1: regional MMA at the highest level, do we see somebody

1500
01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 1: attempt We've earned somebody attempt to be a triple champion.

1501
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 1: Yet does that happen this year?

1502
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 3: No? Not on a major level. No, it won't. There's

1503
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 3: too many other things competing with that for that to be.

1504
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 1: I mean, it would have to be Connor at welterweight,

1505
01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 1: so Hudo at featherweight, or like out of Sonia running

1506
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 1: the table at two five and have you weeight not

1507
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 1: gonna hap Or or Patricio Pitbull going to thirty five Luke,

1508
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 1: which he did not do for this tournament, which I

1509
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 1: don't get. I don't get.

1510
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then that's another part too. A he lost

1511
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:16,839
Speaker 3: a belt, two belts really.

1512
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 1: And one belt Luke he lost. Oh yeah, you're right.

1513
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:22,760
Speaker 3: He gave up that gave up the other one. I

1514
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 3: mean he doesn't, you know, in a sense, he lost it.

1515
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 3: Even if he got that third belt, he wouldn't be

1516
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:30,640
Speaker 3: like the champ Champ Champ. He would just be like

1517
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:33,559
Speaker 3: the champ who also was at a different time. I mean,

1518
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, It wouldn't be exactly the same. BC.

1519
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:38,599
Speaker 3: I don't know what to say about this for our

1520
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 3: quick hitters. Do you want to even want to get

1521
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:43,920
Speaker 3: into this? Luis Ortiz Kong is taking on Charles Martin

1522
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 3: on pay per view on January first. Yeah, that Saturday

1523
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 3: set there. Yeah, for folks who want to set their

1524
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 3: money on fire. I've got a great fight.

1525
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 1: I mean, they got a lot of balls putting that

1526
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:56,040
Speaker 1: on pay per view. So it seems unbelievable. It is

1527
01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:58,800
Speaker 1: a PBC on Fox show. You know, look, we all

1528
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 1: thought that Ariola versus Andy Ruiz pay per view fight

1529
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 1: last year was, on paper, right, one of the worst

1530
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 1: boxing pay per views we've ever seen. Turns out the

1531
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:09,679
Speaker 1: fight turned out to be super exciting. Andy Ruiz got dropped.

1532
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:12,519
Speaker 1: It doesn't justify coming in what it was. I think

1533
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 1: PBC on Fox thought that was gonna be Deontay Wilder

1534
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 1: versus Andy Ruiz last time, and I think Luke, they

1535
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:21,839
Speaker 1: thought this was gonna be Luis Ortiz versus Andy Ruiz

1536
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:24,160
Speaker 1: and it didn't work out. Would that have been a

1537
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 1: better pay per view than this? Yes? Would that have

1538
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 1: been a pay per view worthy fight? Probably? Still no.

1539
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 1: But it seems clear Luke, as PBC continues its relationship

1540
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 1: with Fox this coming year, that it seems, along with

1541
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:39,720
Speaker 1: having that Keith Thurman Mario Barrios pay per view, that

1542
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 1: Fox is really into the heavyweight side of things. They're

1543
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 1: the ones who put on that last two along with ESPN,

1544
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 1: the Fury Wilder fights. They're the ones who put on

1545
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:51,719
Speaker 1: that Areola versus a Ruiz fight. But Luke, this matchup

1546
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:56,720
Speaker 1: is yeah, man, So Luis Ortiz is some people think

1547
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:58,479
Speaker 1: he's fifty five, Luke, what is he on paper? Like

1548
01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:01,960
Speaker 1: forty forty one? Gave Deontay Wilder hell twice but got

1549
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 1: knocked out a very good heavyweight, but he's getting up

1550
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 1: there in age. Charles Martin, dude is if you don't

1551
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 1: remember this guy, he was like fifteen and oh but

1552
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:15,680
Speaker 1: hadn't fought anybody. He gets a vacant title opportunity a

1553
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 1: bunch of years back, fights Zark Glaskov. Glaskov breaks his

1554
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:22,720
Speaker 1: leg in like the second round, never fights again and retires.

1555
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 1: Martin wins the title and then loses it in his

1556
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 1: next fight to Anthony Joshua to start that title reign.

1557
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:31,519
Speaker 1: And since then, Luke look I like Charles Martin. He's

1558
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 1: a brawler. He goes in there, he tries, but there's

1559
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 1: a pay per view main event, dude. So yeah, I mean,

1560
01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:43,799
Speaker 1: you know, again, if we're trying to build toward Andrew

1561
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:46,960
Speaker 1: Ruiz versus Deontay Wilder, then I guess you can justify

1562
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 1: neither of those guys are on this card. Okay. So

1563
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 1: I don't know what we're building to here, Luke, but

1564
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:53,519
Speaker 1: that pay per view is going to happen Saturday, whether

1565
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 1: you watch it or not.

1566
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:58,360
Speaker 3: All right, And last, but not least, the last MMA

1567
01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 3: event of the year is going to be rise In

1568
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:02,880
Speaker 3: thirty three. B See. Actually a fair bit to like

1569
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:03,679
Speaker 3: on this one.

1570
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't we get a little tension Nasakawa action here?

1571
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got tension. Nascalo take it on Techonorigomi in

1572
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:11,840
Speaker 3: a special standing rules bout where they have to just

1573
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 3: fucking there's no ground. But I guess it's semi CA.

1574
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what the rules are exactly, other than

1575
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:19,599
Speaker 3: it's a standing bout so you have to there would

1576
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 3: be no ground. It's interesting. The card will have the

1577
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 3: Bantamweight Grand Prix semi finals that will happen earlier. Kayasakora

1578
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 3: will be on there as well as Naki. In a way,

1579
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 3: the winners of those two bouts will then fight in

1580
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:36,560
Speaker 3: the main event for the Grand Prix Finals, plus the

1581
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:39,439
Speaker 3: Rise In Lightweight Championship is up for grabs as the champion.

1582
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:44,559
Speaker 3: Hiberto Desuza tikes on usk Yachi, a big kickboxing names

1583
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 3: on this card. Utakubo is on here, Rina Kubota. If

1584
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 3: you're a Japanese MMA fan and you want some solid

1585
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 3: MMA action, like high level, you could do a whole

1586
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:58,000
Speaker 3: lot worse than Rise In thirty three to sure b see.

1587
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 1: Hi Asakura on it, Luke, which last year, you know,

1588
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:03,720
Speaker 1: I got us into some accidental trouble over that whole thing,

1589
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:06,120
Speaker 1: but you know he had that two fight series with

1590
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 1: Kyoji Hooragucci. He's back here, Luca. It seems to be

1591
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 1: the most of the attention is on that that that

1592
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 1: quasi were weird rules match. You mentioned. There's a big difference,

1593
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:18,519
Speaker 1: am I right? In both age and size here between

1594
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 1: Tension Masakawa and Talkingri Goomi.

1595
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, it's pretty significant. I mean Tension was outsized

1596
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:29,600
Speaker 3: by a one pound Floyd. I mean Gomi is a

1597
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:30,799
Speaker 3: legit what lightweight?

1598
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:33,840
Speaker 1: So, Luke, they are twenty years apart in age, they're

1599
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 1: twenty three and forty three.

1600
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, it's a it's a it's a thing.

1601
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:43,880
Speaker 1: Will you be watching? Will you be watching? Luke, Let's

1602
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 1: be fair here, let's put.

1603
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:46,840
Speaker 3: Another I'll watch after the fact. I'm not staying up

1604
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:49,840
Speaker 3: at the middle of the night to watch. Also, Hamasaki

1605
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:53,280
Speaker 3: versus Izawa at forty nine kilos is a big fight

1606
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:53,679
Speaker 3: as well.

1607
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 1: The one thing about Rizin is it delivers action, Luke,

1608
01:14:57,160 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 1: it's the promotion brings it.

1609
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 3: Uh, yeah, that's true. They bring it. It's a good

1610
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:06,679
Speaker 3: fucking event and it's a good it's a good tradition

1611
01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:08,639
Speaker 3: in me to have it on New Year's Eve as well,

1612
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 3: it's very very unique in that way. Yes, your super

1613
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:16,800
Speaker 3: Adaway champion is Ayakahamasaki, and I think I think it's Oh,

1614
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 3: it's a non title bout against Ssayka Izawa. Psyka Iszawa.

1615
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 3: So Hamasaki is a good fighter. I don't know about Izawa.

1616
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:26,679
Speaker 3: I'll be candid, but it should be a good contest

1617
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:28,559
Speaker 3: and it should be a great card all the way around.

1618
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 1: Transitioning out real quick, are you cised about the announcement

1619
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 1: that De Zone's going to put on a trilogy bout

1620
01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:38,880
Speaker 1: early next year between Roman Chuckle, Latito Gonzalez and Juan

1621
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:42,599
Speaker 1: Francisco Estrada. If you remember they had their rematch early

1622
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:45,400
Speaker 1: this year. It's one of the best fights of the year.

1623
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:48,600
Speaker 1: Estrada got a controversial decision. They first fought back in

1624
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 1: twenty twelve, back when Chocolatito was you know the guy.

1625
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 1: This This could be special Lucas trilogy. It could be

1626
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:56,040
Speaker 1: it could be great.

1627
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 3: I'm not as pumped for it as you are. I'm

1628
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:00,599
Speaker 3: not as high on Chuko laate do at this point

1629
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 3: as you are, but I grant that it's a pretty

1630
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 3: big fight and it's a good one for them to

1631
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 3: put on.

1632
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:08,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out to the super flyweights. They bring it

1633
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 1: at one fifteen.

1634
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 3: Thank you all RIGHTBC, it's now yours and I guess

1635
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 3: we have dead wrong and then fansobs.

1636
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:18,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. So we do this every Friday, but today's Wednesday

1637
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 1: Morningcombat at gmail dot com is your email address every

1638
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:23,599
Speaker 1: week because when Luke and I's talking to a microphone

1639
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:27,400
Speaker 1: for this many hours, good God, inevitably will ramble on

1640
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:29,960
Speaker 1: and our microphones will tail out and people will get upset,

1641
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:31,720
Speaker 1: and then we'll say incorrect facts and piss a lot

1642
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:34,840
Speaker 1: of people off. But we are man enough to take

1643
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:38,280
Speaker 1: the stand, take the l go face to face with

1644
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 1: our accusers. Okay, all right, you want to catch your predator,

1645
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 1: you better bring some receipts with you, Chris Hansen, because

1646
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:45,679
Speaker 1: we're here.

1647
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 3: All right.

1648
01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:55,720
Speaker 1: It's called dead wrong. All right, all right, Luke, we

1649
01:16:55,800 --> 01:17:03,759
Speaker 1: start with a man named Fraser. Fraser Fraser from Edinburgh, Scotland, Edinburgh, Burrough, Edinburgh.

1650
01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 3: I think it's edin Burgh, Edinburgh like that. It's not Burgh,

1651
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 3: is it?

1652
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:14,080
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't really speak Gaelic. You speak or Irish

1653
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:18,720
Speaker 1: or Scottish? You speak or Welsh. Uh. During the episode

1654
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 1: by the Pool for Jake Paul versus Woodley, two BC

1655
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:26,960
Speaker 1: said Na Diez was cornering his teammate and quote UFC

1656
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 1: veteran Chris Avila. Now I only said that because Luke

1657
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:33,320
Speaker 1: said that earlier in the day. Uh, this is dead wrong.

1658
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 1: Chris Avula had two UFC fights, but both were losses,

1659
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 1: including one to Ardam Lobov. That hardly qualifies him as

1660
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:42,960
Speaker 1: a UFC veteran.

1661
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:47,639
Speaker 3: You washed actually explicitly qualified UFC. What kind of fucking

1662
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 3: dead wrong? This is a terrible dead wrong. Chris Avila

1663
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:54,920
Speaker 3: did fight in UFC. He veteran. He's not a Yeah,

1664
01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:58,280
Speaker 3: he's not a decorated UFC veteran, but he's up there

1665
01:17:58,320 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 3: if that counts.

1666
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:02,639
Speaker 1: Veteran has different levels. I mean, veteran could mean you've

1667
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:05,639
Speaker 1: served in the armed forces. Veteran could mean you're old

1668
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:07,880
Speaker 1: at whatever craft you've done and you've been around for

1669
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 1: a while, or in a more loose generic sense, it

1670
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:12,800
Speaker 1: could just mean you used to do that for that thing.

1671
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:15,599
Speaker 1: This guy used to do that for that thing. He

1672
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:19,879
Speaker 1: closed with love the show Latin Fauci Army. But Fraser,

1673
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 1: won't you won't you get aft? Fraser?

1674
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 3: All right, Fraser, I'm afraid to say, well, I appreciate

1675
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 3: your you know your preferences and attractive women. You are good.

1676
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 3: You are wrong, sir, you are dead wrong.

1677
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:35,080
Speaker 1: All right, sho, there we go. We're undefeated so far.

1678
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 1: Jordan from Hawaii Sliding and Happy Holidays and twenty twenty

1679
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:41,639
Speaker 1: two Donks. In episode two forty four at an hour

1680
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:45,679
Speaker 1: and four minutes, BC refers to Bruno Silva versus Alex

1681
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 1: Pededa as quote a sex fight, and he said one

1682
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 1: we might see on the Spice Channel in the nineteen eighties.

1683
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:55,519
Speaker 1: BC as another guy who grew up in the eighties

1684
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:59,080
Speaker 1: and nineties and who recalls scrambled cable channels as part

1685
01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 1: of my adolescence. The Spice channel did not come into

1686
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 1: existence until nineteen ninety four. Looking forward to an awesome

1687
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:11,839
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, Jordan from Hawaii, Jordan, did I say eighties?

1688
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:14,880
Speaker 1: I may maybe I may have said it, Luke. I'll

1689
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 1: take the Alephi.

1690
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 3: It sounds familiarish.

1691
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:21,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I used to look, Luke. I used to babysit

1692
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 1: at a house in the early nineties. Well, I guess

1693
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:27,719
Speaker 1: it wasn't that early. If he's saying this channel debut

1694
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:30,479
Speaker 1: in ninety four, they subscribed to that, Luke.

1695
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 3: Is it hardcore pornography or like real? No?

1696
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:39,519
Speaker 1: No, but it's it's it's it's more extreme than what

1697
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:42,519
Speaker 1: HBO and show in Cinemax and Showtime was offering at

1698
01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 1: the time, but short of hardcore. So it's that like

1699
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:47,080
Speaker 1: gray area in between.

1700
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:51,560
Speaker 3: You know, if you've I've been watching incredibly disturbing pornography

1701
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 3: since I was like fourteen, So.

1702
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:56,240
Speaker 1: Well that explains a lot. That's why you're Yeah, your

1703
01:19:56,320 --> 01:20:00,759
Speaker 1: morals and your heart are so black. Yeah. Wow, all right, Jordan,

1704
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 1: thank you. I might have been wrong. I may have

1705
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 1: been wrong on there. I'll take the yell if I was.

1706
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:07,559
Speaker 1: Spencer comes in and says in BC's solo episode, which

1707
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 1: got rave reviews, Luke, besides the sound quality of episode

1708
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:15,719
Speaker 1: two forty five, When talking about McGregor's run at lightweight,

1709
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 1: BC refers to Connor's win over Eddie Alvarez as in

1710
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 1: upset victory, but this is dead wrong. Connor closed as

1711
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:26,519
Speaker 1: a minus one fifty five betting favorite, with Alvarez as

1712
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:29,439
Speaker 1: the plus one thirty five dog. Luke, I'll take that out,

1713
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:30,400
Speaker 1: bro Okay.

1714
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:33,719
Speaker 3: I didn't realize that. It's a good that's a good correction.

1715
01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 3: That's a good one. I like that one.

1716
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 1: I'm dead wrong there. This was Connor, I want to say,

1717
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 1: moving up, and yeah, I was moving up in way

1718
01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:43,639
Speaker 1: because he fought Diaz at welterweight the two previous fights,

1719
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:45,600
Speaker 1: so he was moving down from there, but moving up

1720
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:48,840
Speaker 1: from featherweight where he had run the gamut there and

1721
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:51,840
Speaker 1: winning the title. Okay, he was the betting favorite, Luke,

1722
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:54,800
Speaker 1: who do you think should have been outside of because

1723
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:57,680
Speaker 1: obviously the lines sometimes reflect the need to bring in

1724
01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:00,920
Speaker 1: other bets and the crowds that floed the heading.

1725
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:02,200
Speaker 3: Into that one. I knew it was close, but I

1726
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:04,679
Speaker 3: thought Eddie would edge and then Eddie got blown out.

1727
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:07,639
Speaker 3: You know, so Connor deserved to be the favorite, obviously.

1728
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:10,519
Speaker 1: No, I think at the time Eddie deserved to be

1729
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:13,240
Speaker 1: the favorite, because I think Eddie should have won that fight.

1730
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:16,360
Speaker 1: In hindsight, Luke, he abandoned all forms of a game plan.

1731
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:18,759
Speaker 1: He can't, he said, he came in there to wrestle,

1732
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:21,080
Speaker 1: but Connor, you know, talk shit, waved him on and

1733
01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:21,960
Speaker 1: got him into a fight.

1734
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 3: He also just made a lot of bad choices in

1735
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:27,439
Speaker 3: the fight itself, more than just like being mentally out

1736
01:21:27,479 --> 01:21:30,719
Speaker 3: of it. I mean, I guess they're all connected. But yeah,

1737
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:33,840
Speaker 3: he he fumbled that one. Unfortunately for him.

1738
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 1: He gotta admit though, love him or hate him, Connor

1739
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:38,640
Speaker 1: was riding high at that point, like he could have

1740
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:40,240
Speaker 1: beaten anybody that night, Like he was just.

1741
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:43,800
Speaker 3: I'll never forget. I'll never forget. After that win, he

1742
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 3: did a scrum with reporters backstage and I was there.

1743
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 3: I was there, Yeah, and he asked for shares in

1744
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:53,519
Speaker 3: the company. I remember that. You know, he didn't get him, obviously,

1745
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:56,679
Speaker 3: but I remember thinking at the time, dude, he might

1746
01:21:56,720 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 3: get this shit, like he really might do this. I

1747
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:02,120
Speaker 3: will have to see, But I remember for the first time.

1748
01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:04,480
Speaker 3: I was like, here is a guy who you absolutely

1749
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:06,920
Speaker 3: cannot If he says he can do it, you could

1750
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 3: say maybe unlikely, but I would be very cautious about it.

1751
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:12,960
Speaker 1: I wrote a column that night. Right after he said that,

1752
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:14,360
Speaker 1: I went back to the media room and wrote a

1753
01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:17,000
Speaker 1: calum It led the front page of ESPN dot com

1754
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:17,479
Speaker 1: the next day.

1755
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 3: Luke, Okay, wow, wow, so that shit peep.

1756
01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:23,720
Speaker 1: Take that shit. People, Okay, I've done some stuff like

1757
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 1: it was.

1758
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 3: You know, You've been some places. I know that. Yeah.

1759
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 1: I may have even been laid Luke, Its possible, all right.

1760
01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:32,840
Speaker 1: This one comes from Simon. Brian did a great job

1761
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:35,040
Speaker 1: of hosting the show by himself on December twenty seventh.

1762
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:38,120
Speaker 1: Thank you, Simon. But while listing his top ten best

1763
01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:40,919
Speaker 1: fights he was ever present for, he claimed that Japanese

1764
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:46,360
Speaker 1: boxer Takashi Miura retired immediately after his loss to Francisco

1765
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:50,160
Speaker 1: Vargas in twenty fifteen. You see, you're dead wrong. Miora

1766
01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:53,400
Speaker 1: actually went on to fight three more times, including a

1767
01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:56,680
Speaker 1: world title fight against Miguel Bert Schell. Look, I'll take that,

1768
01:22:56,800 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 1: damn l I thought that sent him him him into retire.

1769
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:03,080
Speaker 1: I'm dead wrong. On my recollect Did.

1770
01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:04,840
Speaker 3: He take a bunch of bullshit fights or was that

1771
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:06,679
Speaker 3: his last significant fight?

1772
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:09,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean that that was a significant

1773
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 1: fight against Burchell, and it was, you know, an early

1774
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 1: part of Burchell's incredible rain that was just ended by

1775
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:17,360
Speaker 1: Ascar Valdez this year. But yeah, I thought that was

1776
01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:19,320
Speaker 1: the end. I mean, I mean that no one remembers

1777
01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 1: that fight. Luke, Fargus busted eye down on the cards

1778
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:25,320
Speaker 1: rallying back for that sick finish. But uh yeah, thank

1779
01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:27,599
Speaker 1: you for pointing that out. Simon, You're right, I was wrong.

1780
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:30,439
Speaker 1: I wonder how much other shit I said was wrong

1781
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:31,960
Speaker 1: and people just didn't look it up. Luke, you have

1782
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:33,880
Speaker 1: to wonder that. Am I just full of hot air

1783
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:41,919
Speaker 1: and piss? Yes, yellow piss, lots of piss, probably yellow piss.

1784
01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:44,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, super dehydrated, almost brown.

1785
01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:48,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go, Michael says on the episode the

1786
01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:51,639
Speaker 1: Monday after Christmas. Wow, they're coming for me here, Luke. Okay,

1787
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 1: BC was listing the top ten fights he attended. WHOA,

1788
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:57,679
Speaker 1: this is a theme here, Luke. He was dead wrong

1789
01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:03,719
Speaker 1: on some of the details with us first two entries.

1790
01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 1: First of all, when discussing ferguson versus Pettis, BC said

1791
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 1: that the fight ended because Pettis's corner was concerned about

1792
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:15,599
Speaker 1: the cut. It was actually showtime suffering a broken hand

1793
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 1: that made coach Duke Rufus throw in the towel. Wow, okay,

1794
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 1: well they.

1795
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:23,639
Speaker 3: Could have been concerned about the cut. It's just he's right.

1796
01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:25,479
Speaker 3: They didn't throw it out.

1797
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 1: And in fairness, and in fairness, I was. I was at

1798
01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:31,120
Speaker 1: the arena for that, so I wasn't hearing the commentary.

1799
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:32,880
Speaker 1: And I don't think I've ever rewatched the fight, Luke,

1800
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:35,719
Speaker 1: So take that I'm wrong, then I'll take the L. Secondly,

1801
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:40,320
Speaker 1: when talking about Usman versus Covington, one, BC said that

1802
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:43,639
Speaker 1: no one was knocked down put down the Bath Salts

1803
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:47,840
Speaker 1: player because Usman definitely knocked Colby down in round five

1804
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:52,760
Speaker 1: twice before the controversial Mark Goddard stoppage. We all know

1805
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:55,599
Speaker 1: you're on the back nine, BC, but that's no excuse

1806
01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 1: to phone it in. Much love from Brooklyn, keep up

1807
01:24:58,240 --> 01:24:58,720
Speaker 1: the decent one.

1808
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 3: They dropped him, opt him once or maybe even twice

1809
01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:03,280
Speaker 3: in the second fight.

1810
01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:06,080
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, but so in relation to this first fight,

1811
01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 1: so one, I will take the L because I said that.

1812
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:11,040
Speaker 1: But after saying that it triggered my own head. So

1813
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:13,040
Speaker 1: what I meant by that, Luke is sometimes you get

1814
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 1: action fights. Tell me if I'm wrong here. Great A

1815
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:20,160
Speaker 1: great point is do you remember Brandon Rios versus Mike Calvado.

1816
01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 1: You remember that that that two fight series they had

1817
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 1: or trilogy. Actually remember the first one was like fight

1818
01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 1: of the Year in twenty thirteen, and people were going

1819
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:29,760
Speaker 1: sick over it like.

1820
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 3: This before or after Rios made fun of Freddy Roach

1821
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:36,040
Speaker 3: for having Parkinson.

1822
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:39,200
Speaker 1: Oh god, probably in the middle of that. My point

1823
01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:42,680
Speaker 1: is this, Luke, that fight. Everybody wanted it to be

1824
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:45,040
Speaker 1: an all time great fight. I interviewed both fighters ahead

1825
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:47,280
Speaker 1: and they're like, this is gonna be Gotty Ward all

1826
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:50,160
Speaker 1: over again. Everybody wanted it to be. The networks were

1827
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:53,120
Speaker 1: talking about it. Remember Jim Lampley didn't call that fight

1828
01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:55,439
Speaker 1: for HBO because it was on their junior series. Yet

1829
01:25:55,479 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 1: he got it, bought a ticket in the crowd, or

1830
01:25:57,280 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 1: probably buy it. But you get my point. Everybody wanted

1831
01:25:59,920 --> 01:26:02,000
Speaker 1: it to be. It was like six or seven rounds

1832
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:04,439
Speaker 1: of two guys just running into each other. But my

1833
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 1: defense that time was look great fight, but it didn't

1834
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:13,640
Speaker 1: have character. There wasn't ebbs and flows. There weren't knockdowns

1835
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:16,200
Speaker 1: there weren't you know, like what why do I like

1836
01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 1: Gotti Ward more than I like krls Castillo one? Even

1837
01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:21,920
Speaker 1: though krrals Castillo one is the better fight and maybe

1838
01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:23,759
Speaker 1: the best fight of all time for all, I'm concerned

1839
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:27,120
Speaker 1: because Gotti Ward one had character there, you know, guys

1840
01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:29,559
Speaker 1: getting involve, the kids just just like oh my god,

1841
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:31,920
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Carls Castile one had the

1842
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:34,040
Speaker 1: two knockdowns in the last round. Don't dead wrong me,

1843
01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:36,160
Speaker 1: I get, But my point is this, Luke. When I

1844
01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:39,120
Speaker 1: made that comment Monday, it was that Usman Coventin was

1845
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:41,719
Speaker 1: a great fight, but it was like two trains running

1846
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:43,360
Speaker 1: into each other. It's one of the top ten fights

1847
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:46,160
Speaker 1: I was ever cage sided for. But what prevents it

1848
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:48,840
Speaker 1: in my mind from being a top five UFC fight

1849
01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:51,639
Speaker 1: of all time is it lacked a little bit of character.

1850
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:54,559
Speaker 1: There weren't big sways of momentum. Yes, there were two

1851
01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:57,200
Speaker 1: knockdowns at the end that ended the fight, but there

1852
01:26:57,320 --> 01:26:59,800
Speaker 1: wasn't a kind of like oh my god in the

1853
01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 1: that even Ada Sonia versus Gastallum had of near submissions

1854
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:07,080
Speaker 1: and guys getting up and you know, wackiness. So that's

1855
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:09,080
Speaker 1: the point that I was ultimately trying to make there

1856
01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 1: and saying there were no knockdowns, there were no sways

1857
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:14,720
Speaker 1: and ebbs and flows of momentum. I hope people get that.

1858
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just me rambling on Luke, who knows. I

1859
01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:17,479
Speaker 1: don't know.

1860
01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:19,920
Speaker 3: Whatever they're coming for you today, I want to point

1861
01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:21,799
Speaker 3: that out. They are coming for you to you know, when.

1862
01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:24,200
Speaker 1: You take the chair and you take it solo, and

1863
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:26,680
Speaker 1: you dig in and you give two hours and eight

1864
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:28,320
Speaker 1: minutes of your life to the people, Luke, and you

1865
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:31,400
Speaker 1: fucking bring it. You're putting yourself out there. But the

1866
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:32,320
Speaker 1: thing is, Luke, I can take it.

1867
01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:34,360
Speaker 3: Bro right. It's the last show of the year. While

1868
01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:36,080
Speaker 3: you're doing Dead Wrong. Do you want to see Twoky?

1869
01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:38,240
Speaker 3: You want Tuky to say goodbye to the viewers? Of

1870
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:40,240
Speaker 3: course I do, Louke, let me see, let me do

1871
01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:42,439
Speaker 3: your thing, let me see if I can get her.

1872
01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:45,760
Speaker 1: All right, we got one more Dead Wrong for you.

1873
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:51,080
Speaker 1: Here we go. Fidentcio says, how's it going? BC and

1874
01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:54,000
Speaker 1: Luke love the Show a Monday Show again with Monday Show.

1875
01:27:54,160 --> 01:27:56,559
Speaker 1: At the one hour and twelve minute mark, BC mentioned

1876
01:27:56,600 --> 01:27:59,519
Speaker 1: that the Newness versus Cyborg was an honorable mention for

1877
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:01,680
Speaker 1: the best fight he ever attended, and that it was

1878
01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:04,960
Speaker 1: a great fight in Vegas. BC is right. It was

1879
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 1: a great fight, but it took place in Inglewood, California.

1880
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 1: It was the fight that was supposed to take place

1881
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 1: in Vegas but got moved to California due to John

1882
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:17,519
Speaker 1: Jones and the whole Picogram debacle. Keep up with the

1883
01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:19,960
Speaker 1: great dude. That is another dead wrong. I will take

1884
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:22,600
Speaker 1: that l That fight was in l A. I was

1885
01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:24,400
Speaker 1: there for it. It got moved to the last minute.

1886
01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:27,080
Speaker 1: That's the end of the dead wrongs. Let's go to Tuki.

1887
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:43,200
Speaker 2: Hi tuk Tuki?

1888
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:46,000
Speaker 3: Can you say to the audience?

1889
01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:51,920
Speaker 1: He said, Hi, hey tuk tuk.

1890
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:54,120
Speaker 3: The you go? She can't hear you?

1891
01:28:55,160 --> 01:29:00,639
Speaker 1: Tamo Gringo BC, Miamo Ringo BC.

1892
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:05,880
Speaker 3: Like do you like do you like a lot?

1893
01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:07,719
Speaker 1: Toky? A lot Tooky?

1894
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:09,120
Speaker 3: What do you think? What do you think of him?

1895
01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:18,519
Speaker 1: Uncle Gringo? Here ola hola to fail? Oh, Taco Supreme?

1896
01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:20,479
Speaker 1: Come on, nothing nothing at all?

1897
01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:22,960
Speaker 3: Really, Taco Supreme is what you're gonna say? Really that.

1898
01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:28,000
Speaker 1: I have limited Spanish, Luke okay please, I have very

1899
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:28,960
Speaker 1: limited Spanish.

1900
01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:36,439
Speaker 3: Okay, I want you to say, uh says Okay, I

1901
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:37,559
Speaker 3: think gonna.

1902
01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:39,800
Speaker 1: I think she wants to see my glasses again, That's

1903
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:40,320
Speaker 1: what I think.

1904
01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:42,400
Speaker 3: No, I don't think she does because you made her

1905
01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:46,360
Speaker 3: cry last time like a jerk turkey. Here we go.

1906
01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:53,160
Speaker 3: What are you thinking about? This idiot to fail?

1907
01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:57,719
Speaker 1: All right, Luke, yep, yep, all.

1908
01:29:57,680 --> 01:29:58,479
Speaker 3: Right, we gotta go.

1909
01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:00,800
Speaker 1: That's the face I made the first time I saw

1910
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:03,320
Speaker 1: the Emmanuel series on Showtime in the nineties, Luke.

1911
01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:11,439
Speaker 3: Say, child bye, damn. I'm all oh you got a

1912
01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:13,040
Speaker 3: blow like yes, look at that.

1913
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:16,080
Speaker 1: Huh was that the audience or uncle uncle gringo?

1914
01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:17,640
Speaker 3: No, uncle Gringo for you?

1915
01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:25,400
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, okay, that's so wholesome.

1916
01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:26,479
Speaker 1: That shit's so wholesome.

1917
01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:28,400
Speaker 3: Luke, there you go. You got to see my daughter.

1918
01:30:28,439 --> 01:30:29,599
Speaker 3: She's growing up fast.

1919
01:30:30,280 --> 01:30:31,240
Speaker 1: She's the best. Luke.

1920
01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:33,439
Speaker 3: All right, thanks man, she's awesome. You'd love her.

1921
01:30:33,439 --> 01:30:35,720
Speaker 1: She's a great, big fan, big fan on this end. So, Luke,

1922
01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:38,919
Speaker 1: we closed up dead wrong with me getting small facts incorrect,

1923
01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:41,280
Speaker 1: So I'll take those els, thank you very much. Did

1924
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:44,719
Speaker 1: you know that Cyborg versus Newness was in La.

1925
01:30:44,760 --> 01:30:47,600
Speaker 3: Not Vegas, Luke, I did not.

1926
01:30:48,320 --> 01:30:50,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, they moved that last minute. I forgot about that,

1927
01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:53,720
Speaker 1: all right, Yeah, thank you, Luke. We got one more

1928
01:30:53,720 --> 01:30:55,760
Speaker 1: second before you have Morning Combat at gmail dot com,

1929
01:30:55,800 --> 01:30:58,559
Speaker 1: the same email address that you can send in your artwork,

1930
01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:01,800
Speaker 1: pictures of you and our really, whatever you got, we'll

1931
01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:04,559
Speaker 1: put it on the screen because Mikey Mormaler producer really

1932
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:06,479
Speaker 1: doesn't do the best quality control on this, Luke, Is

1933
01:31:06,479 --> 01:31:07,120
Speaker 1: that fair to say?

1934
01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:10,320
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean, I'm not even sure he's sober.

1935
01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:14,640
Speaker 1: We love you, Mikey. It's called fan submission.

1936
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:20,400
Speaker 3: Bike is like Chief Keef, I hate being Sober.

1937
01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:23,040
Speaker 1: I don't get that reference.

1938
01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:25,880
Speaker 3: Luke. He has a song called hate being Sober, and

1939
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:29,880
Speaker 3: I joke about it because everyone sings Sweet Caroline. Sweet

1940
01:31:29,880 --> 01:31:33,320
Speaker 3: Caroline is the national anthem for drunk whites, irrespective of

1941
01:31:33,320 --> 01:31:35,519
Speaker 3: their country, doesn't matter, like if you're, like, you know,

1942
01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:38,880
Speaker 3: from the UK or America or whatever. It's what drunk

1943
01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 3: whites do when they get together. They sing Sweet Caroline.

1944
01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:44,120
Speaker 3: But what they're really doing is they're just they're parading

1945
01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:48,280
Speaker 3: that they're drunk. So I'm saying, let's substitute sweet Caroline

1946
01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:52,439
Speaker 3: for Chief Keef's Hate being Sober, because they're essentially about

1947
01:31:52,520 --> 01:31:56,519
Speaker 3: the exact same thing. But you know it's falling on

1948
01:31:56,560 --> 01:31:59,839
Speaker 3: deaf ears the argument, even though I'm quite right, that's.

1949
01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:03,240
Speaker 1: Fair to close on what I was saying before about

1950
01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:06,160
Speaker 1: Rio Salvado one. Do you remember? Kevin Ioli the next

1951
01:32:06,200 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 1: day after that fight put out a column on Yahoo

1952
01:32:08,240 --> 01:32:11,960
Speaker 1: calling it the greatest action fight since the year two thousand.

1953
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:15,120
Speaker 3: Luke, Wait, he called what the biggest action fight?

1954
01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:19,360
Speaker 1: Rios Alvarado one. He said it was better than Pacquio

1955
01:32:19,439 --> 01:32:23,400
Speaker 1: Marquez four, better than Corrals Castillo one, better than gott

1956
01:32:23,439 --> 01:32:24,120
Speaker 1: e Ward one.

1957
01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:25,799
Speaker 3: That's a big claim.

1958
01:32:26,479 --> 01:32:27,320
Speaker 1: I didn't agree with it.

1959
01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:27,519
Speaker 3: Then.

1960
01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:29,800
Speaker 1: That was dead wrong. Okay, not BC. He wasn't dead wrong.

1961
01:32:29,880 --> 01:32:33,120
Speaker 1: That was dead wrong. Okay, thank you. Maybe I'm wrong, Luke,

1962
01:32:33,160 --> 01:32:35,160
Speaker 1: because he's on He's on a great run right now, Luke,

1963
01:32:35,200 --> 01:32:40,080
Speaker 1: so shout out to him, right, I agree? All right?

1964
01:32:40,160 --> 01:32:43,840
Speaker 1: No selling that. Here we go. Fansubmissions start with David A.

1965
01:32:44,120 --> 01:32:47,040
Speaker 1: Is this the French rape guy? Luke? He says, Hi, guys,

1966
01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:49,240
Speaker 1: I thought i'd share my MK drinking games.

1967
01:32:50,920 --> 01:32:54,280
Speaker 3: Where did he put the GHB in his liquor cabinet?

1968
01:32:54,400 --> 01:32:58,240
Speaker 1: Yeah? Five drinks to be consumed Depending on what you

1969
01:32:58,280 --> 01:33:02,160
Speaker 1: guys say during the shownumber one top quality locally produced

1970
01:33:02,240 --> 01:33:05,840
Speaker 1: daffodil beer. It's a lot nicer than it sounds. Forced

1971
01:33:05,840 --> 01:33:08,759
Speaker 1: wigs to finish the bottle one every time Luke says

1972
01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:11,920
Speaker 1: last but not least down in one if he says

1973
01:33:11,960 --> 01:33:14,479
Speaker 1: it in the first five minutes of the show. Number two,

1974
01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:18,240
Speaker 1: he'll drink vodka he buys from the dodgy Polish neighbor.

1975
01:33:18,680 --> 01:33:21,760
Speaker 1: Not my thing, but something so something said two or

1976
01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:25,720
Speaker 1: three times a show BC making it look easy, or

1977
01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:29,240
Speaker 1: any word made up by Brian that's an adaptation or conceivement.

1978
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:34,120
Speaker 1: Number three, Luky drinks special Scott Scotch malt whiskey, a

1979
01:33:34,280 --> 01:33:39,280
Speaker 1: celebratory triple any song double shot for BC's rag Doll

1980
01:33:39,400 --> 01:33:43,120
Speaker 1: song or Luke's dead wrong rap Wow we ever heard

1981
01:33:43,200 --> 01:33:45,160
Speaker 1: rag doll in a while? And here Luke right? You know?

1982
01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:51,320
Speaker 1: Also Luke, he'll drink a chataunof do pop pap pape.

1983
01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:54,760
Speaker 1: It's red wine and it's his staple. So I need

1984
01:33:54,800 --> 01:33:57,080
Speaker 1: things you say all the time, like to your point, BC,

1985
01:33:57,840 --> 01:34:00,040
Speaker 1: if you're gonna come on, I don't know what this

1986
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:01,920
Speaker 1: even means, Luke, what are we at? Number five? He

1987
01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:05,320
Speaker 1: drinks shitty Greek sweet Mike yea, all right, I'm ending

1988
01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:05,840
Speaker 1: this again.

1989
01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:08,519
Speaker 3: I don't care. I've lost interest after like the first two.

1990
01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:11,360
Speaker 1: So I like Dodgy French Dave better when he was

1991
01:34:11,400 --> 01:34:14,200
Speaker 1: like trying to get inside on this on his students.

1992
01:34:14,240 --> 01:34:17,400
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. M M all right, Drake

1993
01:34:17,439 --> 01:34:21,000
Speaker 1: off here, he says, ps the other two photos you

1994
01:34:21,080 --> 01:34:26,080
Speaker 1: have Bowie the cat's version of the game. That's a

1995
01:34:26,080 --> 01:34:26,759
Speaker 1: cute feeline.

1996
01:34:26,880 --> 01:34:28,439
Speaker 3: Luke, Okay, I'm with it.

1997
01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:31,599
Speaker 1: He said. I nearly put morning Combat underwear on her head,

1998
01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:35,759
Speaker 1: but I thought better of it. All right, David, thanks

1999
01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:36,200
Speaker 1: for your.

2000
01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:39,960
Speaker 3: Time here literally sending in pictures of his cat. Is

2001
01:34:39,960 --> 01:34:42,920
Speaker 3: that what we're looking at? His assholes? He's just thumbing

2002
01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:45,200
Speaker 3: through his phone and then sending it to Mikey.

2003
01:34:45,720 --> 01:34:48,080
Speaker 1: He's like, normally I send pictures of the pussy and class.

2004
01:34:48,160 --> 01:34:51,720
Speaker 1: Now I'm going around the house. Thank you, Uncle Dave,

2005
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:55,840
Speaker 1: thank you? All right? Anything else from him? Oh, here

2006
01:34:55,880 --> 01:35:00,519
Speaker 1: we go, Luke. Here's his final one.

2007
01:35:00,720 --> 01:35:03,479
Speaker 3: And who's Emma my white cat there?

2008
01:35:03,600 --> 01:35:03,840
Speaker 1: Luke?

2009
01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:07,400
Speaker 3: Oh okay, okay, all right, all right, I mean that's

2010
01:35:07,439 --> 01:35:08,759
Speaker 3: mildly funny if you're fifty.

2011
01:35:09,640 --> 01:35:14,080
Speaker 1: All right, Daniels coming in from Hot and Heavy from Tampa, Florida. Quote, Hey, Luke,

2012
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:17,800
Speaker 1: could you rate this cable management, he says.

2013
01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:28,759
Speaker 5: Luke, Yeah, BC, the PAS didn't do you any justice

2014
01:35:28,760 --> 01:35:29,559
Speaker 5: with that setup.

2015
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:29,960
Speaker 3: No.

2016
01:35:30,160 --> 01:35:33,000
Speaker 1: I came running in from HQ, and it was it

2017
01:35:33,120 --> 01:35:34,960
Speaker 1: was what it was, Luke. Look how washed we were

2018
01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:37,240
Speaker 1: by the end of that week. They just get me home,

2019
01:35:37,400 --> 01:35:38,040
Speaker 1: Get me home.

2020
01:35:38,160 --> 01:35:39,559
Speaker 3: Yeah. I was ready to get the fuck out of

2021
01:35:39,560 --> 01:35:39,920
Speaker 3: there too.

2022
01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:43,000
Speaker 1: All right, Jack is here, he says, Hey, Luke and Brian,

2023
01:35:43,040 --> 01:35:44,720
Speaker 1: I hope I'm not too late sending this. But in

2024
01:35:44,760 --> 01:35:47,160
Speaker 1: the last week, when you guys pulled the upset of

2025
01:35:47,200 --> 01:35:49,560
Speaker 1: winning the best MMA programming, I was working in the

2026
01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:51,760
Speaker 1: backyard when I saw your posts saying that you won.

2027
01:35:52,080 --> 01:35:53,720
Speaker 1: I was in so much shock. I ran into the

2028
01:35:53,720 --> 01:35:57,120
Speaker 1: house yelling they won. They won. My partner had no

2029
01:35:57,200 --> 01:35:59,320
Speaker 1: idea what I was talking about, and so I told

2030
01:35:59,320 --> 01:36:02,200
Speaker 1: her that MK had won. She wasn't excited as I was,

2031
01:36:02,439 --> 01:36:04,799
Speaker 1: although she did tell me to wait here because quote,

2032
01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:07,679
Speaker 1: this is a good time to give you your Christmas present.

2033
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:11,519
Speaker 1: Look check this out. I waited, confused, and she returned

2034
01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:15,360
Speaker 1: holding Morning Combat two point zero merch. I was in shock.

2035
01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:18,360
Speaker 1: I knew talking about you donks constantly would pay off,

2036
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:20,719
Speaker 1: and now I can enjoy the Elite club of people

2037
01:36:20,880 --> 01:36:24,000
Speaker 1: whose partners buy you shit. I've been here since day one.

2038
01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:26,519
Speaker 3: That's awesome.

2039
01:36:26,720 --> 01:36:30,000
Speaker 1: I even subscribed on my partner's account to help you

2040
01:36:30,040 --> 01:36:33,160
Speaker 1: guys get to one hundred k ps? Luke, how's my

2041
01:36:33,439 --> 01:36:34,440
Speaker 1: cable management?

2042
01:36:35,040 --> 01:36:40,599
Speaker 3: Atrocious? But the hoodie is nice? The house looks nice.

2043
01:36:40,960 --> 01:36:43,320
Speaker 3: The floors don't look banged up, which I appreciate. You

2044
01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:45,120
Speaker 3: see that the floors all the hard word finish is

2045
01:36:45,160 --> 01:36:45,599
Speaker 3: still there.

2046
01:36:46,040 --> 01:36:50,360
Speaker 1: Now, Look, would you guess he f's, Luke? Would you

2047
01:36:50,360 --> 01:36:50,920
Speaker 1: have guessed that?

2048
01:36:51,479 --> 01:36:52,040
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2049
01:36:52,360 --> 01:36:53,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, he probably.

2050
01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:55,559
Speaker 1: F's great, Probably great guy.

2051
01:36:55,640 --> 01:36:58,040
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, he's probably great guy. His cable management is

2052
01:36:58,040 --> 01:37:00,439
Speaker 3: a three, but his life is a nine? Oh you know,

2053
01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:01,320
Speaker 3: what are you gonna do?

2054
01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:04,080
Speaker 1: All right? All right, let's keep it going here, Jay says,

2055
01:37:04,320 --> 01:37:07,280
Speaker 1: happening now, I don't know which Jay this is? Jay? Aaron?

2056
01:37:07,360 --> 01:37:07,799
Speaker 2: Maybe?

2057
01:37:08,160 --> 01:37:12,000
Speaker 3: Oh God, that's a good looking pooch.

2058
01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:14,000
Speaker 1: That's a good looking living TV.

2059
01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:16,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's say I like that whole That whole setup

2060
01:37:16,520 --> 01:37:16,920
Speaker 3: is nice.

2061
01:37:17,080 --> 01:37:17,640
Speaker 1: Yeah that's all?

2062
01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:19,719
Speaker 3: Yeah? What that Christmas tree is real? Ass?

2063
01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:22,719
Speaker 1: I mean my skin blown up on a big screen

2064
01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:25,360
Speaker 1: like that, Luke, It's it's a little patchy patch Adams there,

2065
01:37:25,360 --> 01:37:27,439
Speaker 1: but uh, you know, outside of that Uh, looking good

2066
01:37:27,439 --> 01:37:29,719
Speaker 1: in that drug rug. Thank you Jay for sharing your

2067
01:37:29,800 --> 01:37:32,360
Speaker 1: your in house look with us. Uh. John slides in

2068
01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:42,240
Speaker 1: and says, virtually identical. I'll take that, Luke. You know,

2069
01:37:42,800 --> 01:37:46,160
Speaker 1: two badasses from the UH with Eastern European roots. I'll

2070
01:37:46,160 --> 01:37:46,679
Speaker 1: take that. Luke.

2071
01:37:46,720 --> 01:37:49,120
Speaker 3: Did you did you tell your son what you thought

2072
01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:51,000
Speaker 3: of his back tattoo? Uh?

2073
01:37:51,040 --> 01:37:53,600
Speaker 1: It's it's it's gnarly, it's aggressive. It's this side of

2074
01:37:53,640 --> 01:37:54,759
Speaker 1: Sean Brady, to be fair.

2075
01:37:54,680 --> 01:37:59,320
Speaker 3: Luke Ray, it's aggressive. It's aggressive, all right?

2076
01:37:59,360 --> 01:38:01,719
Speaker 1: Tanner? Is he? He says, Hey, BC and LT Happy

2077
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:05,919
Speaker 1: Mary Festivus from a cheap Chinese American restaurant in Idaho

2078
01:38:06,200 --> 01:38:09,040
Speaker 1: with a two hour way time. I'm drinking double G

2079
01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:11,880
Speaker 1: and t's watching the Cards Colts game. You guys are

2080
01:38:11,880 --> 01:38:16,479
Speaker 1: gonna crush twenty twenty two, Love Tanner, H Luke forget

2081
01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:20,640
Speaker 1: where's he say? He is Wyoming or no, Idaho. This

2082
01:38:20,720 --> 01:38:22,880
Speaker 1: guy's on the capitol steps looking like that.

2083
01:38:22,920 --> 01:38:25,639
Speaker 3: There's no question, no doubt about it. Although I will say,

2084
01:38:25,720 --> 01:38:27,400
Speaker 3: first of all, shouts of this man for his gear

2085
01:38:27,479 --> 01:38:30,880
Speaker 3: and then for everything else. Also on top of it, BC,

2086
01:38:31,120 --> 01:38:33,439
Speaker 3: have you done the Christmas day? Go to a Chinese

2087
01:38:33,479 --> 01:38:34,439
Speaker 3: restaurant tradition.

2088
01:38:35,439 --> 01:38:38,679
Speaker 1: We do the Christmas Eve take home Thai food tradition.

2089
01:38:39,000 --> 01:38:41,320
Speaker 3: Ooh, you know what, I like that. I like that

2090
01:38:41,360 --> 01:38:44,000
Speaker 3: little remix. That's nice. But I will say I did

2091
01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:45,439
Speaker 3: it in New York City a couple of times, spent

2092
01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:48,720
Speaker 3: Christmases at Chinese restaurants and like decent ones. Dude, I

2093
01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:51,719
Speaker 3: fucking love that tradition. That is a great tradition.

2094
01:38:52,040 --> 01:38:54,360
Speaker 1: I love it. My dad and mom kind of made

2095
01:38:54,360 --> 01:38:56,280
Speaker 1: fun of me because, you know, they referenced the Christmas

2096
01:38:56,280 --> 01:38:59,400
Speaker 1: Story movie where they eat at you know, yeah, after

2097
01:38:59,400 --> 01:39:01,960
Speaker 1: the bump is but you know, going with the with

2098
01:39:02,040 --> 01:39:04,320
Speaker 1: the Thai food front, you know, night before, it's great.

2099
01:39:04,360 --> 01:39:06,560
Speaker 1: It's great. So shout out to Tanner, especially.

2100
01:39:06,240 --> 01:39:08,240
Speaker 3: If it's like if it's snowy and then you have

2101
01:39:08,360 --> 01:39:10,800
Speaker 3: like a big warm noodle dish the next day, it's

2102
01:39:10,840 --> 01:39:11,719
Speaker 3: fucking great.

2103
01:39:11,960 --> 01:39:14,920
Speaker 1: Oh the leftovers are incredible. I was still eating him yesterday.

2104
01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:17,640
Speaker 1: What'd you think of Tanner's beard, Luke, that's aggressive.

2105
01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:20,680
Speaker 3: You know, it's a lot. It's a lot. But if

2106
01:39:20,680 --> 01:39:22,280
Speaker 3: you're an Idaho, what the fuck else are you gonna do?

2107
01:39:22,360 --> 01:39:24,679
Speaker 1: That's a fair point, all right. Antoine is here, Yes,

2108
01:39:24,760 --> 01:39:26,960
Speaker 1: Antwine the Yetti. You know that six foot eight guy

2109
01:39:27,040 --> 01:39:28,200
Speaker 1: who ran away to Alaska?

2110
01:39:28,280 --> 01:39:28,479
Speaker 2: Luke?

2111
01:39:28,560 --> 01:39:31,960
Speaker 1: I love that guy night riding and gotta represent the MK.

2112
01:39:32,280 --> 01:39:35,240
Speaker 1: Hope you guys are having a lovely holiday. Appreciate the content,

2113
01:39:35,479 --> 01:39:38,640
Speaker 1: even though the Jake Paul gives me dysentery like symptoms.

2114
01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:42,080
Speaker 1: Keep it up in my newer merches on the way, Luke,

2115
01:39:42,160 --> 01:39:44,240
Speaker 1: I've told you in the past. Check can we zoom in?

2116
01:39:44,520 --> 01:39:46,240
Speaker 1: Look how big this mfort is? Luke?

2117
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a tall drink of water, but.

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Speaker 1: You know he he shared with me a couple a

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Speaker 1: couple of picks of the tail he pulls up up

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Speaker 1: north there in the final Frontier and well done, Antoine,

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Speaker 1: All right, yeah.

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01:39:58,880 --> 01:40:03,120
Speaker 3: I mean he's out there just slaying and skiing. It's

2123
01:40:03,160 --> 01:40:03,880
Speaker 3: a great life.

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01:40:04,240 --> 01:40:06,640
Speaker 1: I mean, what do you think Alaskan women are? What

2125
01:40:06,680 --> 01:40:10,960
Speaker 1: do you think Native Alaskan women are like Luke threes? Well,

2126
01:40:11,000 --> 01:40:13,679
Speaker 1: they probably need warmth like everyone else. So this guy's

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01:40:13,720 --> 01:40:15,920
Speaker 1: just clean enough. Wow, left and right, big fans, does

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01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:16,280
Speaker 1: you just.

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01:40:16,280 --> 01:40:19,680
Speaker 3: Rolled right over the fact that I just torched like

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01:40:19,760 --> 01:40:23,360
Speaker 3: seventy five percent of Alaskan women completely unfairly.

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01:40:22,960 --> 01:40:25,040
Speaker 1: Well, if they're not five with three bbl's Luke, you

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01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:25,719
Speaker 1: don't like anyone.

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01:40:25,760 --> 01:40:28,200
Speaker 3: We've been through this. This, this is true. It's a

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01:40:28,200 --> 01:40:29,479
Speaker 3: fair point, all right.

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Speaker 1: Roberts here with two photos. First, his mom Leslie in

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01:40:32,800 --> 01:40:35,760
Speaker 1: the background, and his brother unpictured, hooked him up with

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01:40:35,800 --> 01:40:38,800
Speaker 1: the best Christmas gift ever. Can't wait to shart on

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01:40:38,880 --> 01:40:43,400
Speaker 1: you guys. Also, how does my gray beard compare to

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01:40:43,479 --> 01:40:46,160
Speaker 1: Luke's at age thirty five? We got to zoom back in.

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01:40:46,200 --> 01:40:47,519
Speaker 1: I got to see a lot of things here.

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Speaker 3: Uh did you place more things randomly on the wall?

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Speaker 1: Well, first of all, he loves Louisiana, Luke. Okay, shout

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01:40:55,360 --> 01:40:57,080
Speaker 1: out to his mom, Leslie in the background with the

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01:40:57,120 --> 01:41:01,559
Speaker 1: thumbs up she bought him. No chance that underwear stays

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01:41:01,560 --> 01:41:02,479
Speaker 1: white through the holidays.

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01:41:02,520 --> 01:41:05,599
Speaker 3: Look, there's no Joe, dude, we're gonna be Doodoo brown

2147
01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:09,519
Speaker 3: before first quarter twenty twenty two? Are you kidding me?

2148
01:41:09,720 --> 01:41:11,599
Speaker 3: But look he's at and then and then he's gonna

2149
01:41:11,640 --> 01:41:12,880
Speaker 3: randomly hang it on his wall.

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01:41:13,240 --> 01:41:15,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got three pieces of merch there though. So

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01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:18,559
Speaker 1: shout out to Robert. Love that shit, all right, thank you, buddy, thank.

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01:41:18,400 --> 01:41:19,360
Speaker 3: You, yes, thank you.

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01:41:19,479 --> 01:41:22,320
Speaker 1: Oh shit, look at that oh zoom in here.

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01:41:24,160 --> 01:41:29,360
Speaker 3: Oh he's got the Carter, a little Wayne doll, then

2155
01:41:29,439 --> 01:41:33,479
Speaker 3: our pieces of merch and then some other clothes there. Yeah,

2156
01:41:33,479 --> 01:41:35,280
Speaker 3: all right, he's doing he's doing well for himself.

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01:41:35,360 --> 01:41:37,080
Speaker 1: All right, all right, you were gonna you were gonna

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01:41:37,080 --> 01:41:38,639
Speaker 1: insult him. Then you're like, you know what, he's probably

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01:41:38,640 --> 01:41:39,120
Speaker 1: a good guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's a good guy. He's all right. He

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01:41:40,760 --> 01:41:42,640
Speaker 3: had a funny joke. The ones who show us the

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01:41:42,640 --> 01:41:44,360
Speaker 3: funny jokes. I like that. I like them better.

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01:41:44,640 --> 01:41:46,759
Speaker 1: All right, Sam is here, he says, love you, Brian,

2164
01:41:46,840 --> 01:41:49,120
Speaker 1: But dude, we got things to do. At least stop

2165
01:41:49,200 --> 01:41:52,400
Speaker 1: mumbling if possible. I hate choosing between hearing your whispers

2166
01:41:52,560 --> 01:41:55,120
Speaker 1: and hearing your yelling at me. Keep up the good work.

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01:41:55,160 --> 01:42:03,080
Speaker 1: You earn that award sort of lo l. Look, it's

2168
01:42:03,120 --> 01:42:05,240
Speaker 1: not my fault. It's not my fault. All right, we're

2169
01:42:05,240 --> 01:42:06,679
Speaker 1: gonna fix it. We had some tech issues.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna fix it. It'll be fine. The people love you,

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01:42:09,400 --> 01:42:09,920
Speaker 3: it'll be fine.

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01:42:09,960 --> 01:42:12,080
Speaker 1: I'll take the dead wrong for it. I'll represent us.

2173
01:42:12,080 --> 01:42:14,280
Speaker 1: But you know, come on, all right, Greg is here,

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01:42:14,280 --> 01:42:16,559
Speaker 1: he says, Me and my brother accidentally bought each other

2175
01:42:16,960 --> 01:42:20,360
Speaker 1: matching orchids of combat T shirts. That's awesome for Christmas.

2176
01:42:20,520 --> 01:42:24,040
Speaker 1: We both have some fresh ass merch to cover ourselves

2177
01:42:24,080 --> 01:42:27,400
Speaker 1: in while we opened our presence and deleted several mimosas

2178
01:42:27,439 --> 01:42:29,679
Speaker 1: on Christmas morning. I guess they don't call them best

2179
01:42:29,680 --> 01:42:34,559
Speaker 1: sellers for nothing. Happy Holidays from Saint Catharines, Ontario, Canada, Luke,

2180
01:42:34,880 --> 01:42:36,919
Speaker 1: Look at these fret fine young Canucks.

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01:42:37,800 --> 01:42:39,920
Speaker 3: It looks like a before and after picture from like

2182
01:42:40,080 --> 01:42:43,160
Speaker 3: Queer Eye, except they kept the clothes the same. Look

2183
01:42:43,160 --> 01:42:45,840
Speaker 3: at this guy on the left, facial hair, all shitty, hair,

2184
01:42:45,880 --> 01:42:48,400
Speaker 3: all shitty, hat, all shitty. And then the guy on

2185
01:42:48,439 --> 01:42:50,880
Speaker 3: the right he combed it up. Yeah, he made a

2186
01:42:50,880 --> 01:42:51,439
Speaker 3: little bit.

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01:42:51,520 --> 01:42:53,160
Speaker 1: He cleans up. Well, what do you think about two

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01:42:53,200 --> 01:42:56,400
Speaker 1: brothers blindly buying each other the same gift and not

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01:42:56,439 --> 01:42:57,040
Speaker 1: realizing it.

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01:42:57,880 --> 01:43:00,680
Speaker 3: I think that they're smitten by the magic of so

2191
01:43:00,720 --> 01:43:01,559
Speaker 3: I don't blame them.

2192
01:43:01,960 --> 01:43:04,000
Speaker 1: I bet they walk around going, you know, we're the

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01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:05,439
Speaker 1: BC and LT of Canada.

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01:43:05,560 --> 01:43:09,200
Speaker 3: You know, I'm not sure if that's a good thing.

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01:43:10,000 --> 01:43:12,439
Speaker 1: All right, you could argue that, you know, Bone and

2196
01:43:12,479 --> 01:43:14,800
Speaker 1: Bronsteutter are the BC and LT of Canada.

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01:43:14,560 --> 01:43:23,920
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, but like they're not just like the like no,

2198
01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:25,280
Speaker 3: no is the answer.

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Speaker 1: Look, I know you don't read the comments at all.

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01:43:27,920 --> 01:43:29,160
Speaker 1: But did you see there was a comment.

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01:43:29,280 --> 01:43:34,080
Speaker 3: See every time, every time you do this, I'm gonna

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01:43:34,080 --> 01:43:36,000
Speaker 3: say something about it. So I see, I.

2203
01:43:35,960 --> 01:43:38,639
Speaker 1: Meant I did not mention Ferraris in any form. Look,

2204
01:43:39,200 --> 01:43:41,040
Speaker 1: did you see there was a comment on Monday Show

2205
01:43:41,080 --> 01:43:44,280
Speaker 1: some guys like my sister was the one Mike bone

2206
01:43:44,360 --> 01:43:45,960
Speaker 1: fondled on the airplane that time.

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01:43:46,520 --> 01:43:48,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think that that's true because I know

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01:43:48,880 --> 01:43:52,640
Speaker 3: what happened on the airport, on the airplane, and it was,

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01:43:52,720 --> 01:43:55,080
Speaker 3: much to my amazement, wildly consensual.

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01:43:55,280 --> 01:43:59,200
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, Luke, we've got a video from David

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01:43:59,240 --> 01:44:01,559
Speaker 1: A didn't we are? How do you excommunicate this guy?

2212
01:44:01,600 --> 01:44:03,799
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a different one, he says. Hi, Guys, until recently,

2213
01:44:03,840 --> 01:44:05,720
Speaker 1: I thought I was in a two horse race with

2214
01:44:05,880 --> 01:44:08,519
Speaker 1: the tattooed Damien for Donk of the Year. But then

2215
01:44:08,560 --> 01:44:11,760
Speaker 1: I was not included in BC's top ten donks for

2216
01:44:11,840 --> 01:44:14,280
Speaker 1: the Wheel of Death. It's time to remind you who

2217
01:44:14,320 --> 01:44:16,760
Speaker 1: I am to this show. Here is my year in

2218
01:44:17,360 --> 01:44:20,120
Speaker 1: Year end song. I enclosed the lyrics at the end

2219
01:44:20,640 --> 01:44:24,280
Speaker 1: in case you can't understand my Franco British accent. Luke,

2220
01:44:24,360 --> 01:44:26,839
Speaker 1: David Appleton's making a second run in the same segment

2221
01:44:27,120 --> 01:44:31,040
Speaker 1: and not getting uh canceled. So let's see what he's got.

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01:44:35,320 --> 01:44:38,439
Speaker 3: French Bill Cosby kicking in, leaning in, motherfuck gives them

2223
01:44:38,479 --> 01:44:46,800
Speaker 3: the French Bill Cosby, damon you, widow, he got a

2224
01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:49,520
Speaker 3: shitty tattoo and then you disappeared.

2225
01:44:51,800 --> 01:44:56,280
Speaker 1: He's gotta be every show they talk about.

2226
01:44:55,960 --> 01:45:03,840
Speaker 3: The God sometimes, Oh my God.

2227
01:45:05,040 --> 01:45:08,280
Speaker 1: Gave you the best tip you have scene.

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01:45:09,720 --> 01:45:21,160
Speaker 3: Class voting. You know, Sam, they didn't do I've got.

2229
01:45:20,920 --> 01:45:21,960
Speaker 1: No other friends.

2230
01:45:27,320 --> 01:45:31,360
Speaker 3: Got my students to repeat the k Man to God,

2231
01:45:31,400 --> 01:45:38,800
Speaker 3: a predatory barbersexual en canswer in Europe Show Times, got

2232
01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:43,559
Speaker 3: to fix my cable. Managed to then go down. If

2233
01:45:43,560 --> 01:45:49,760
Speaker 3: you're gonna come home, tonight's the night I'm gonna lay

2234
01:45:49,800 --> 01:46:00,640
Speaker 3: me some pipe vote busie vote having vo happy if

2235
01:46:00,680 --> 01:46:00,920
Speaker 3: you want.

2236
01:46:04,840 --> 01:46:06,639
Speaker 1: Oh God, I just spilled someone.

2237
01:46:06,760 --> 01:46:08,840
Speaker 3: Someone needs to tell David no means no.

2238
01:46:09,800 --> 01:46:12,879
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, he'll probably get himself canceled anyway

2239
01:46:12,880 --> 01:46:15,520
Speaker 1: on his own, Luke. But he's back in my good graces.

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Speaker 3: I gotta tell you. When he was putting the photos

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01:46:17,720 --> 01:46:20,080
Speaker 3: up of Cosby then Epstein, then I couldn't even see

2242
01:46:20,080 --> 01:46:21,840
Speaker 3: what it was. After that, I was like, Wow, he

2243
01:46:21,920 --> 01:46:24,040
Speaker 3: really went for it. He really went for it.

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01:46:24,560 --> 01:46:27,679
Speaker 1: The lyrics are like, sometimes they call me Jeffrey Epstein,

2245
01:46:27,760 --> 01:46:31,320
Speaker 1: sometimes they call me the French Weinstein. I gave you

2246
01:46:31,400 --> 01:46:34,800
Speaker 1: the best tip to tip you've ever seen. Wow, Luke,

2247
01:46:35,400 --> 01:46:38,160
Speaker 1: this is redeemed. This is redemption in motion. You just

2248
01:46:38,200 --> 01:46:42,519
Speaker 1: saw it right here. That is that's that's commitment, that's

2249
01:46:42,840 --> 01:46:45,240
Speaker 1: that's creative. I mean he played the guitar on his

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Speaker 1: own too, Luke.

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Speaker 3: If I go to Paris again, should I hit this guy.

2252
01:46:49,240 --> 01:46:52,640
Speaker 1: Up one but don't bring the women with you?

2253
01:46:53,080 --> 01:46:56,680
Speaker 3: Yeah? Fuck all that. I'd love to meet him.

2254
01:46:57,040 --> 01:46:59,120
Speaker 1: The end lyrics, Luke, where if you're gonna come on,

2255
01:46:59,240 --> 01:47:03,839
Speaker 1: come on, Tonight the night gonna lay me some pipe? Wow?

2256
01:47:04,360 --> 01:47:11,120
Speaker 3: Wow, I don't think I've ever had the internal dialogue.

2257
01:47:11,640 --> 01:47:14,320
Speaker 3: Tonight's the night gonna lay me some pipe.

2258
01:47:14,680 --> 01:47:17,280
Speaker 1: I just spilled half a water bottle over everything, Luke.

2259
01:47:17,400 --> 01:47:22,000
Speaker 1: That was great. Wow. Yeah, all right, that's it. That's all.

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01:47:22,000 --> 01:47:24,880
Speaker 1: We got Morning Coombat at gmail dot com. We'll get

2261
01:47:24,920 --> 01:47:27,439
Speaker 1: you on our show if you if you're weird enough.

2262
01:47:27,479 --> 01:47:30,360
Speaker 1: But thank you to our fine Luke. As much as

2263
01:47:30,400 --> 01:47:35,439
Speaker 1: you wanna distance yourself from French Bill Cosby, he's one

2264
01:47:35,479 --> 01:47:37,879
Speaker 1: of the reasons that we are the best MMA programming

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01:47:37,920 --> 01:47:41,400
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. Luke okay, all right, it's p

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01:47:41,600 --> 01:47:44,680
Speaker 1: ones like rapp Ones like him. Luke Okay, that's how

2267
01:47:44,680 --> 01:47:45,240
Speaker 1: we got here.

2268
01:47:47,120 --> 01:47:49,160
Speaker 3: I am ashamed to admit it, but you are right.

2269
01:47:49,520 --> 01:47:53,360
Speaker 3: It's the rapp Ones BC. Are you okay? Over there?

2270
01:47:53,400 --> 01:47:56,680
Speaker 3: I see you doing something, all right, So let me

2271
01:47:56,760 --> 01:47:59,320
Speaker 3: let me, let me let me do the the fine

2272
01:47:59,360 --> 01:48:02,000
Speaker 3: print stuff. You're up doing that. As a reminder to everyone,

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Speaker 3: as he indicated, Morningcombat at gmail dot com will be

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01:48:05,080 --> 01:48:07,400
Speaker 3: the email for Dead Wrongs four fan subs. Please send

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Speaker 3: those in. We also appreciate that when you do. If

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Speaker 3: you want to try Showtime in the new year, and

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Speaker 3: get a thirty day free trial. If you like it,

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Speaker 3: you can keep it. If not, you can do whatever

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Speaker 3: you want with your life. Of course, we have a

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Speaker 3: nice review there. If you're watching on YouTube, thumbs up

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Speaker 3: hit subscribe BC. We should probably take this final moment

2288
01:48:46,120 --> 01:48:48,840
Speaker 3: since we have thanked the donks who watched this repeatedly

2289
01:48:48,880 --> 01:48:51,040
Speaker 3: at this point, we should probably take a moment on

2290
01:48:51,040 --> 01:48:53,480
Speaker 3: our last show of the year to thank the amazing

2291
01:48:53,600 --> 01:48:56,840
Speaker 3: crew behind the program that makes it what it is,

2292
01:48:56,840 --> 01:48:59,880
Speaker 3: from Corey to gaff to al To. Of course our

2293
01:49:00,040 --> 01:49:02,920
Speaker 3: trepor producer of CBS Sports Mikey Mormle, who did not

2294
01:49:02,960 --> 01:49:05,040
Speaker 3: get thanked properly of course at the awards ceremony, so

2295
01:49:05,040 --> 01:49:06,559
Speaker 3: we could do it a little bit extra here, Mikey,

2296
01:49:06,600 --> 01:49:09,960
Speaker 3: thank you for everything this past year, of course, as well.

2297
01:49:10,000 --> 01:49:13,479
Speaker 3: Steven Espinosa, Brian Daily, Matt Snyder, Courtney mag who's been

2298
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Speaker 3: an MVP.

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01:49:14,360 --> 01:49:17,599
Speaker 1: Carrie, don't forget about don't forget about Staten Island, Sally,

2300
01:49:17,800 --> 01:49:20,479
Speaker 1: don't forget about Sally. I mean, are you gonna give

2301
01:49:20,520 --> 01:49:22,679
Speaker 1: Jay Aaron any love? Fuck?

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01:49:22,800 --> 01:49:22,840
Speaker 2: No?

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01:49:23,080 --> 01:49:23,320
Speaker 3: For what?

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01:49:25,680 --> 01:49:25,960
Speaker 1: For what?

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01:49:26,080 --> 01:49:29,000
Speaker 3: Good luck with that? Pennington? James CD that five people

2306
01:49:29,040 --> 01:49:31,519
Speaker 3: are gonna fucking throw in the trash.

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01:49:30,800 --> 01:49:35,320
Speaker 1: Wow, all right, I'm just saying they will. Jake Roseman,

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01:49:35,400 --> 01:49:39,599
Speaker 1: our documentarian, by the way, uh documentary number six. It's coming, Luke,

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01:49:39,640 --> 01:49:41,160
Speaker 1: It's coming. I'm supposed to be seeing.

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01:49:41,280 --> 01:49:43,519
Speaker 3: What's the what's the what's one's supposed to because this

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01:49:43,600 --> 01:49:45,240
Speaker 3: is one I'm actually interested in. So when is it

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01:49:45,280 --> 01:49:46,000
Speaker 3: supposed to be out?

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01:49:46,200 --> 01:49:48,400
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be seeing part of it later today,

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01:49:48,560 --> 01:49:50,479
Speaker 1: and I'm told in the next couple of weeks it's

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01:49:50,479 --> 01:49:52,960
Speaker 1: going live. So it's gonna, you know, recap a few

2316
01:49:52,960 --> 01:49:57,040
Speaker 1: different stops on our recent run and should be interesting, Luke. Also, Luke,

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01:49:57,080 --> 01:49:59,760
Speaker 1: I I I got some new paint for Christmas, so

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01:49:59,760 --> 01:50:01,880
Speaker 1: I I was working last night. Can you judge my

2319
01:50:02,000 --> 01:50:03,960
Speaker 1: can you rate my latest creation here?

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01:50:04,040 --> 01:50:15,439
Speaker 3: Luke? It's like if Van Go were stupid.

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01:50:17,160 --> 01:50:18,280
Speaker 1: I mean, what does this say to you?

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01:50:18,400 --> 01:50:18,599
Speaker 2: Luke?

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01:50:18,680 --> 01:50:22,439
Speaker 3: I mean you know that you try to brush your

2324
01:50:22,439 --> 01:50:24,000
Speaker 3: teeth and the germs one?

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Speaker 1: All right, Luke, you know it. Art can be interpreted

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01:50:30,560 --> 01:50:33,519
Speaker 1: many different ways, Luke. But that's more of a a

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01:50:34,479 --> 01:50:39,200
Speaker 1: caterpillar in the cocoon, you know, spreading its wings, Luke,

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01:50:39,280 --> 01:50:42,160
Speaker 1: despite the turmoil around it really a lot like our

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01:50:42,200 --> 01:50:45,040
Speaker 1: show's evolution. And to your point about shouting out our

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01:50:45,080 --> 01:50:48,720
Speaker 1: great staff across the board Malcho, CBS Sports and Showtime, Luke,

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01:50:48,760 --> 01:50:50,479
Speaker 1: I don't think you and I expected to have this

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01:50:50,600 --> 01:50:52,960
Speaker 1: great of a year with this show. And a lot

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01:50:52,960 --> 01:50:54,680
Speaker 1: of it goes to our staff. A lot of it

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01:50:54,720 --> 01:50:56,960
Speaker 1: goes to our incredible fan base for voting us in

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01:50:57,000 --> 01:50:59,519
Speaker 1: and for supporting us every week and clicking the like

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01:50:59,560 --> 01:51:02,840
Speaker 1: and SS and sending us their weird entries. But Luke,

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01:51:03,439 --> 01:51:05,800
Speaker 1: a lot of it also is because of you. So,

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Speaker 1: Luke Thomas, thank you for a great twenty twenty one

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01:51:10,240 --> 01:51:14,160
Speaker 1: as my you know, my bedside partner in this uh

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01:51:14,720 --> 01:51:18,720
Speaker 1: weird editorial marriage. If you don't think I appreciate you,

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01:51:18,720 --> 01:51:21,759
Speaker 1: you're crazy. Okay. Now with that said, am I trying

2342
01:51:21,800 --> 01:51:24,840
Speaker 1: every day to best you, to make you, you know,

2343
01:51:26,840 --> 01:51:29,519
Speaker 1: to eliminate you, to push you to the site. You

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01:51:29,600 --> 01:51:32,040
Speaker 1: better believe it, Luke, Okay, because I'm coming. But I

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01:51:32,080 --> 01:51:35,640
Speaker 1: think that tension, not not Soakawa, is what makes this

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01:51:35,800 --> 01:51:37,040
Speaker 1: show so great. All right?

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01:51:37,120 --> 01:51:39,720
Speaker 3: Yes, well, I am not out here to compete with you.

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01:51:39,800 --> 01:51:41,400
Speaker 3: I don't know if you are with me. That's one

2349
01:51:41,400 --> 01:51:42,960
Speaker 3: thing you can choose to do. But I am out

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01:51:42,960 --> 01:51:45,280
Speaker 3: here to partner with you. And I feel like it's

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01:51:45,280 --> 01:51:49,640
Speaker 3: been a fucking great, great year. I'm actually happy to

2352
01:51:49,720 --> 01:51:52,640
Speaker 3: close it only because I'm so excited to start a

2353
01:51:52,680 --> 01:51:55,800
Speaker 3: new one of these chapters with you. So you've been

2354
01:51:55,800 --> 01:51:58,160
Speaker 3: a great partner to work with. You're a little bit

2355
01:51:58,200 --> 01:52:00,559
Speaker 3: brain damaged, but that's okay. I can work with that.

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01:52:00,760 --> 01:52:04,280
Speaker 3: And yeah, dude, I'm hoping to twenty twenty two is

2357
01:52:04,320 --> 01:52:05,400
Speaker 3: everything we think it could be.

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01:52:05,520 --> 01:52:07,559
Speaker 1: I really, I mean, you can only huff fumes for

2359
01:52:07,600 --> 01:52:09,720
Speaker 1: so many years and a half factory town and not

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01:52:09,800 --> 01:52:12,880
Speaker 1: come out on the other end looking a little gnarly. Luke, Okay,

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01:52:13,000 --> 01:52:13,280
Speaker 1: you know.

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01:52:13,400 --> 01:52:15,080
Speaker 3: It's a little true. And by the way, I will

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01:52:15,080 --> 01:52:17,000
Speaker 3: say this year be se we at least in the

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01:52:17,000 --> 01:52:18,760
Speaker 3: case of me, although you two a little bit too.

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01:52:19,240 --> 01:52:20,640
Speaker 3: You know, we had to kind of look in the

2366
01:52:20,640 --> 01:52:22,080
Speaker 3: mirror and be like, we got to get some shit

2367
01:52:22,200 --> 01:52:24,439
Speaker 3: right with our lives, and we did. We put things

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01:52:24,479 --> 01:52:26,760
Speaker 3: into motion this year that kind of put us. We're

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01:52:26,840 --> 01:52:28,920
Speaker 3: ending I'll say this, we're ending the year in a

2370
01:52:28,920 --> 01:52:31,839
Speaker 3: lot of a healthier, more balanced way than we started

2371
01:52:31,840 --> 01:52:32,400
Speaker 3: the year. That's it.

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01:52:32,479 --> 01:52:35,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've backslid a bit more than you, but uh yeah.

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01:52:35,720 --> 01:52:39,040
Speaker 4: I'm looking I'm looking to uh you know, Luke, it's

2374
01:52:39,040 --> 01:52:41,639
Speaker 4: fun being the goofball show, but I think we got

2375
01:52:41,640 --> 01:52:45,840
Speaker 4: a taste of of what it's like to take over

2376
01:52:45,880 --> 01:52:47,679
Speaker 4: the business, to take over the industry.

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01:52:48,040 --> 01:52:49,639
Speaker 1: Okay, and it feels good.

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01:52:49,640 --> 01:52:51,680
Speaker 3: I think we did. I'm really proud of what we

2379
01:52:51,680 --> 01:52:53,320
Speaker 3: did this year. Dude. Thank you for everything you did

2380
01:52:53,400 --> 01:52:55,040
Speaker 3: this year. Thank you for covering from me on Monday

2381
01:52:55,080 --> 01:52:58,320
Speaker 3: and everything else big and small, and twenty twenty two

2382
01:52:58,360 --> 01:53:01,360
Speaker 3: is gonna be fucking awesome. Dude. We're gonna It's not

2383
01:53:01,880 --> 01:53:04,439
Speaker 3: we went gas and now breaks, it's we hit the

2384
01:53:04,439 --> 01:53:06,280
Speaker 3: gas pedal and now we're gonna drive it even further

2385
01:53:06,320 --> 01:53:09,599
Speaker 3: to the floor. So I'm excited. So one more time,

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01:53:09,640 --> 01:53:11,400
Speaker 3: I want to thank the crew, want to thank everyone

2387
01:53:11,439 --> 01:53:13,599
Speaker 3: at CBS. Want to thank everyone a showtime we made

2388
01:53:13,640 --> 01:53:16,320
Speaker 3: this possible. Want to thank all the viewers, everybody who

2389
01:53:16,360 --> 01:53:19,280
Speaker 3: makes this what it is, from Brian Campbell all the

2390
01:53:19,280 --> 01:53:21,400
Speaker 3: way down to just the viewers who have only seen

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01:53:21,439 --> 01:53:23,960
Speaker 3: the even one time. Thank you, Thank you so much

2392
01:53:23,960 --> 01:53:26,439
Speaker 3: for making MK what it is. We'll be back in

2393
01:53:26,560 --> 01:53:28,679
Speaker 3: next week it We'll be back in twenty twenty two,

2394
01:53:28,840 --> 01:53:31,679
Speaker 3: and it is more, not less of everything. We've already

2395
01:53:31,880 --> 01:53:32,719
Speaker 3: a look to close.

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01:53:33,080 --> 01:53:37,080
Speaker 1: Last year, we gave the Dunk of the Year Award

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01:53:36,520 --> 01:53:39,280
Speaker 1: to one Web scream. This year, you and I and

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01:53:39,320 --> 01:53:42,080
Speaker 1: the staff have not voted on it yet, but do

2399
01:53:42,120 --> 01:53:44,360
Speaker 1: you have any feeling who's the clubhouse leader and the

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01:53:44,439 --> 01:53:47,080
Speaker 1: dunk of the year standing. David A from France just

2401
01:53:47,160 --> 01:53:49,680
Speaker 1: made he made a move right there. Yeah, I mean

2402
01:53:49,720 --> 01:53:52,040
Speaker 1: Damien the donk put on body he wrote.

2403
01:53:52,160 --> 01:53:53,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, he wrote a song and he put a lot

2404
01:53:53,840 --> 01:53:57,280
Speaker 3: of effort into it. You could see. But Damian got

2405
01:53:57,280 --> 01:53:59,760
Speaker 3: a tattoo. Sorry, that's the trunk card. I don't know

2406
01:53:59,800 --> 01:54:01,960
Speaker 3: what you could put above that as a as a

2407
01:54:02,000 --> 01:54:06,519
Speaker 3: show of loyalty. That's that's that's probably number one. You know,

2408
01:54:06,680 --> 01:54:08,720
Speaker 3: you can name your kid Morning Combat, you know, and

2409
01:54:08,800 --> 01:54:09,320
Speaker 3: that would be cool.

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01:54:09,880 --> 01:54:12,360
Speaker 1: That would be an interesting move. Yeah, all right, I

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01:54:12,400 --> 01:54:15,040
Speaker 1: wonder it was our first listener to get arrested. It

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01:54:15,080 --> 01:54:18,960
Speaker 1: was probably already happened, actually, jar yeah, yeah, all right,

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01:54:19,320 --> 01:54:20,120
Speaker 1: all right, thank you.

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01:54:20,240 --> 01:54:23,160
Speaker 3: That's it, all right for Brian Campbell for CBS Sports,

2415
01:54:23,160 --> 01:54:27,240
Speaker 3: for Malca, for Showtime and everybody else. Thank you for

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01:54:27,240 --> 01:54:29,360
Speaker 3: making twenty twenty one what it was. We'll see you

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01:54:29,439 --> 01:54:31,240
Speaker 3: next week, We'll see you next year, and until then,

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Speaker 3: may all of your gains be loyal.