1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Jetie and he Armstrong and Yetty. 4 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 3: Enraged when you learned that Russia targeted an American company 5 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 3: based in Ukraine. I don't like it, Kristen, but this 6 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 3: is a war, and this is why we want to 7 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 3: stop the killing. The Russians have done a lot of 8 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 3: things that we don't like. A lot of civilians have died. 9 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 3: We've condemned that stuff from the get go. And frankly, 10 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 3: President Trump has done more to apply pressure and to 11 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 3: apply economic leverage to the Russians, certainly than Joe Biden 12 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:51,959 Speaker 3: did for three and a half years when he did 13 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 3: nothing but talk but do nothing to bring the killing 14 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 3: to a stop. So you asked me what I'm enraged by. 15 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 3: What I'm enraged by is the continuation of the war. 16 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: So, yeah, if you didn't hear that, storry, Russia, I'm 17 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 1: sure on purpose hit an American factory in western Ukraine 18 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: the other day. We say that they're just making like 19 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 1: toasters and electronics, commercial goods. There, Russia's claiming that we're 20 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: manufacturing something that can be used in the war and 21 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: that's why they attacked it. That's its own separate story. 22 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: We'd like to welcome to the Armstrong and Getty Show. 23 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: On the topic of war, and whenever we have a 24 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: military thing, we always go to Mike Lyons military analyst. 25 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: You find him popping up all over the place and 26 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: certainly on the Armstrong in Getty Show. If you want 27 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:41,639 Speaker 1: to follow him on Twitter, you can follow him at 28 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: maj as in Major Mike Lions, or you can read 29 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: his pieces that he writes for Real Clear Defense Mike Lions. 30 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 2: Welcome, Hi you. 31 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 4: This morning, Aji, great, thanks for letting me back. 32 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: Hey, when you get up in the morning and you 33 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: want to check in on wars, where do you go 34 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: to first? I really like that open source intelligence feed 35 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: on Twitter or sw Institute for the Study of War. 36 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: But what do you look at? 37 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, in super Study of War. I know those guys 38 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 4: I see you know they monitor the situation both in 39 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 4: the Middle East as well as in Europe. There might 40 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 4: go to guys, Okay, first, I'll reach back out to them. 41 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 4: Have some folks that at the NSC as well. I 42 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 4: just try to follow there and try to monitor. But 43 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 4: there's lots of good sources that you can look at 44 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 4: just kind of get a lay of the land. Because 45 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 4: time matters here, right, I mean, you wake up in 46 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 4: six hours ahead over there, so something's happened usually, and 47 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 4: so trying to get up to speed quickly on something 48 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 4: that's already happened is really the hard part sometimes interesting. 49 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: So, as you just heard jd Vance, there are the 50 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 1: administrations making the argument all the time that they've done 51 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: a hell of a lot more to arm Ukraine than 52 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: Joe Biden ever did. 53 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 2: And Joe Biden was hardcore. 54 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: Ukraine was not able to fire across the border into Russia, 55 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: and Trump has loosened those restrictions. In fact, Trump has 56 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: made a number of noises about Ukraine is allowed to 57 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 1: use some of the weapons that we have given them 58 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:05,959 Speaker 1: or that they purchased that came from US. 59 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 2: To attack Russia. 60 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: Well, there was a story in the Wall Street Journal 61 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: over the weekend that the Pentagon doesn't like that and 62 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: doesn't want us to be doing that, and they're kind 63 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: of maybe going against the president wishes. First of all, 64 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: would that be a good idea for Ukraine to be 65 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: firing into Russia or not? 66 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 4: Well? I think so, First of all, maximum military pressure 67 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 4: by Ukraine is what's going to take Russia to possibly 68 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 4: come to the negotiation table. I went up the Post 69 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 4: this morning, for example, on the inside articles is Lavrov 70 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 4: saying We're not going to negotiate. So I never thought 71 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 4: there was enough pressure on Russia to negotiate anyway. Right now, 72 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 4: they still feel that they can win on the battlefield. 73 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 4: Whether that's true or not remains to be seen. But 74 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 4: from what I've seen projections and what I've also seen 75 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 4: Intel reports that have come out, I'm surprised I saw 76 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 4: that report because the Biden administration got off to a 77 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 4: very slow start, did not turn up the thermostat at all, 78 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 4: but did create a logistical support eye chain in order 79 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 4: to make things happen. And then the last year, the 80 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 4: last six months or so with a Biden administration, they 81 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 4: did allow those cross border attacks to military targets. And 82 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 4: then Trump takes over and it was shut down. And 83 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 4: I am surprised by that, but I think it has 84 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 4: a lot to do with probably a dysfunctional NSC in 85 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 4: some level, the fact that if we had better national 86 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 4: security advisors with the president making sure that the Pentagon 87 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 4: did what the president wanted, because it's likely just a 88 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 4: couple of personalities in the Pentagon that doesn't think that 89 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 4: we should be doing this, and that's that's why it 90 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 4: got shut down. So it's passive aggressive behavior. They just 91 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 4: have to approve the strike. It just takes them too 92 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 4: long because a lot of these strikes are targets of opportunity. 93 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting those of us who just casually follow 94 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: the world, we assume that if the president and his 95 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: crew decide something, that that's what happens. But the bureaucracy 96 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 1: is big enough, there are people to constin me. 97 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 4: That sometimes it is and I think it's gotten worse, 98 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 4: not just this administration, but go back to you know, 99 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 4: we just haven't add a really well connected, you know, 100 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 4: national security advisory and council with the president that's overseeing 101 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 4: all the different levers of American national security. We used 102 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 4: to say that, you know, the for there would be 103 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 4: very bike Potterson support for national security interests, and they 104 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 4: would that that you know, on our shores is where 105 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 4: it ends, and we're all together. But you've seen this 106 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 4: president travel and Democrats mock that travel when he goes 107 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 4: to farm ways. We had the Russia hoax that that 108 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 4: that really stymied the last the first Trump administration. It's 109 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 4: been a while. I'd like to get us back to 110 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 4: the eighties and nineties again, I know, returned. You know, 111 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 4: maybe we never get there, but of really making sure 112 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 4: that the National Security Advisor is you know, telling the 113 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 4: Pentagon what the president intent is and then can monitor that. 114 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 4: Because it's also taken now four or five months for 115 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 4: that report to come out. It took the media to 116 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 4: figure that out. Now the Trump administration, I think is 117 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 4: scrambling and making sure that doesn't look like we're supporting 118 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 4: Ukraine like we say we are. 119 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: Well, it obviously gives the Russians a tremendous advantage if 120 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: they know that Ukraine can actually did fight any offense. 121 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: So if you were in charge, how much time would 122 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 1: you spend worried about kicking off a nuclear war? 123 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 2: I mean that was Biden's big concern. 124 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: I guess according to a couple of different books are out, 125 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: he didn't want Ukraine, you know, using our weapons. 126 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 2: It would start a nuclear war. 127 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, so I had this argument this morning 128 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 4: with somebody about that. And Russia really hasn't flexed its 129 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 4: true military power because if it wanted to, it could 130 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 4: launch a nuclear weapon, and the account argument to that was, well, 131 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 4: what good would that do? Well? I guarantee it when 132 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 4: we did it in the Second World War, where the 133 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 4: Japanese got the message and they decided to stop and 134 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 4: negotiate quickly. At that point in time, knew the war 135 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 4: was going to be over if Russia fires. Let's just 136 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 4: put all these scenarios on the table, that Harkiev or 137 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 4: La Viv, that that eastern or that western city in Ukraine, 138 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 4: if they threatened and were able to drop a nuclear 139 00:06:55,839 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 4: weapon there killed ten thousand civilians. That would be incredible escalation, 140 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 4: that would still be fundamentally within theater. What would the 141 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 4: world do? 142 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 5: Then? 143 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,559 Speaker 4: Again, all of these sanctions and economic things and levers 144 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 4: that they're trying to pull, Russia knows that will take 145 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 4: eight to ten to twelve months in order to take effect. 146 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 4: They still have India, China on their side, and Germany 147 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 4: is the biggest wild you know, outlier because they still 148 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 4: buy a lot of oil and gas from Russia. So 149 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 4: Russia still has not used all its military might yet, 150 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 4: which is why I believe they feel that they can 151 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 4: still do what they're doing, because I do think that's 152 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 4: an option I do think a short, a smaller tactical 153 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 4: nuke like that, they they can deliver it, and they 154 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 4: have it. 155 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 2: How do you think the world would react to that? 156 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 4: Well, I think the world would be you know, not happy. 157 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 4: Obviously there would be you know, United Nations, you know 158 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 4: the issues there. But I but again, what could the 159 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 4: world do. Is the world willing to deploy a NATO 160 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 4: army as well? Is the world willing now? So, I 161 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 4: mean that's the thing. I mean, Russia, you know, can 162 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 4: can play this thing to that to that point if 163 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 4: it chooses to. I just don't believe that there's any 164 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 4: appetite within the European community to actually go on the 165 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 4: offense because that's what it would take. It would take, 166 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 4: it would take doing that. Now, Russia has already said 167 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 4: now that they're not going to allow Western troops inside 168 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 4: of Ukraine as part of the security agreement that they 169 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,559 Speaker 4: that would have. So so again that's off the table. 170 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 4: There's no there's no negotiation that's going to take place 171 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 4: anytime soon. 172 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: Wow, that's really interesting. I hope it doesn't come to 173 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 1: that point, but I could imagine it. And no, I 174 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,599 Speaker 1: don't think the world there would be your usual condemnation 175 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 1: from the un WI. Right, we condemned this in the 176 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: strongest terms. Of course Putin doesn't get a crap about that. 177 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, it would be you know, like a letter 178 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 4: of admonishment or something. Right. I mean he understands one 179 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 4: thing and that's that's power. And I believe that. You know, 180 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 4: if you look, there was an interesting chart offso in 181 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 4: the journal or as it might have been, the post 182 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 4: about the land masks that you know, they really haven't 183 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 4: gotten anywhere in three years down the Domebass region, and 184 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 4: Russia wants those complete oblifs. They want all of the area. 185 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 4: They want area that they haven't even taken over yet. 186 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 4: And again that this is what their maximist position is 187 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 4: and it and it can remain that way as long 188 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 4: as they feel like it win the battle on the ground. 189 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: Switching gears to the other war that where semi involved in. 190 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: Certainly the president is Yahoo deciding to try to finish 191 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: off Hamas and I guess occupy Gaza. 192 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 2: How difficult a military operation is? That going to be 193 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 2: very tough. 194 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 4: I think that's going to be tunnel warfare, that's going 195 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 4: to be that fourth dimension underground. Israel won't be able 196 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 4: to use a lot of its technology and advantages there. 197 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 4: That's going to be the last remnants of Hamas. Likely 198 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,719 Speaker 4: the if those hostages are there, they're going to be 199 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 4: collateral damage. Unfortunately I had to use that term like 200 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 4: that so one personally. But those tunnels are going to 201 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 4: get destroyed, They're going to be flooded, they'll be blown up. 202 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 4: That that that tunnel structure that Hamas has still is 203 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 4: there is their shield and their sword. It's their last 204 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 4: remaining power base that the Mosque has. You know, you 205 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 4: look in history and sometimes to win wars you have 206 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 4: to attack center of gravities of places, or in our 207 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 4: civil war, you have to attack an army. The Lincoln 208 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 4: knew that he had to find a general that was 209 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 4: going to attack the Confederate army and chase them. In 210 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 4: this case, their strength is their infrastructure. So Natanya who 211 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 4: knows he has to attack and destroy this infrastructure, this 212 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 4: tunnel system. That's what's coming in Gaza City. It's going 213 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 4: to be a lot long. It's going to be twice 214 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 4: as long as whatever they think it's going to take. 215 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 4: And I think you'll see tunnels destroyed, but you'll also 216 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 4: see unfortunately high Israeli casualties because it's going to be 217 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 4: close in it's going to be bloody wow. 218 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: And it'll be interesting to see what public opinion is 219 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: on that in Israel. Final question, my brother was in 220 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 1: the National Guard for a while. I'm trying to picture 221 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 1: him if he got deployed to Washington, DC or Chicago 222 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: with a crime fighting mission with a gun at your side, 223 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: we are you Are you concerned about that for some 224 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: of our troops that aren't exactly that's you know, and 225 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: then you know a lot of people ended up in 226 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: the National Guard didn't think they'd ever be going to 227 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: a racker Afghanistan either. 228 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm absolutely concerned about it. We're definitely over We're 229 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 4: doing too much of our military right now. And I 230 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 4: think that it was the same problem we had in 231 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 4: Iraq anyway. I mean, we deployed active duty troops and 232 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 4: we made them peacekeepers on one block, and then the 233 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 4: next block they were war fighters. And I got into 234 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 4: an argument with a four star about this, and he 235 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 4: thought it was fine because of the discipline of our 236 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 4: troops over our weapon system on because it's got nothing 237 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 4: to do with that. It's just human nature. It's just 238 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 4: too hard to flip that switch. Well, now you bring 239 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 4: in National Guard troops that don't really have law enforcement training. 240 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 4: Now if they're going to help in the back, or 241 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 4: they're going to help logistically or provide just the presence. Oh, 242 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 4: look at New York City. Every day there's National Guard 243 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 4: troops in the subway system at Grand Central Station. You 244 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 4: see them there. They're not carrying loaded magazines. They're just 245 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:45,959 Speaker 4: more of a presence. But if we're going to arm 246 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 4: them and expect them to go out on police raids, 247 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 4: that's a bridge too far. So I'd I'd like to 248 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 4: see less of it. And I think that this is 249 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 4: the President probably using too much for the military. Someone 250 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 4: needs to be countering this argument with regard to the 251 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 4: National Guard in the room, and I hope someone's doing that. 252 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: Thank you as always for your time, Mike Lines. You 253 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 1: can follow him at at Maj. Major Mike Lyons on 254 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: Twitter or read him a real clear defense or look 255 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: for him where every pops up. 256 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 2: Thanks Mike, Thanks Checklimmy. Yeah, I just I. 257 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: Think it's always easier to picture military stuff if you 258 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 1: picture one of your own relatives. Would you want your dad, 259 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: brother whoever going to iraqar Afghanistan or in Chicago carrying 260 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: a gun and uh, I. 261 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 2: Don't know that I would. I'm all for cracking down 262 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 2: on the crime. Maybe more on that later. 263 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: Speaking of crime, I don't worry about it much in 264 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: my own home because I've got simply Safe, which is 265 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 1: really really handy. Simply Safe with their new Active Guard 266 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: outdoor protection to help stop break ins before they happen. 267 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: AI powered cameras, live monitoring agents that will detect suspicious 268 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: activity around your property. 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That's simply safe 278 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: dot com slash armstrong. There's no safe like simply Safe. 279 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: The US Open tennis tournament started over the weekend I 280 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: just watched some guy. 281 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 2: I don't follow tennis that closely. I don't know who. 282 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 2: This guy was. 283 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: Losing his ass on the court. Did you see the 284 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: video of the guy sitting there? He loses a point 285 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: or something, loses his mind and he can't stop smashing 286 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: his racket on his bag and stuff. 287 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 2: You saw that, Katie? 288 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 5: Oh? 289 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, Well what happened was a photographer delayed the game 290 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 6: and he lost one of the points, and so that 291 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 6: photographer came out onto the I don't know what it's 292 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 6: called the court. Yeah, and so the guy starts yelling 293 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 6: at him and then that was the end of his racket. 294 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: I turned to smithereens I heard about the photographer thing, 295 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: but man, he lost his mind there. 296 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 2: For that's exciting stuff. 297 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 1: We got a lot more to talk about on the 298 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: way as an AI problem that's a real problem, among 299 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: other things coming up. Stay here, hey, So coming up, 300 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: we're going to talk to Republican Congressman Tom mcclin talk 301 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: about a couple of things about immigration and maybe redistricting. 302 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: He's a California congressman, so obviously he's interested in what 303 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom wants to do in California to try to 304 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: fight the evil Republicans who are redistricting Texas. That's according 305 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: to Gavin Newsom. So I took my sailing lessons over 306 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: the weekend, a phrase I never thought I would ever 307 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: say in my life. Not exactly come from sailing folk 308 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: from western Kansas, but I always wanted to try to 309 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: learn how to do that. And this neighborhood I live 310 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: in has got this little private, man made lake in 311 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: it and it's big enough that people sail little boats 312 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: around on it and everything like that. Was over working 313 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: out at the club and had a sign up and 314 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: said adult sailing lessons, and you sign up for it, 315 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: and it's two hours on a Saturday, two hours on 316 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: a Sunday for a total of four hours, and then 317 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: you get some sort of certificate. 318 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what that certificate entitles 319 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 2: me to do. 320 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: So I did that and I had the sailing lessons 321 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: over the weekend, and the main thing I learned is 322 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: it's way more complicated than I know. I don't know 323 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: how many of you ever been on a sail boat, 324 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: but it's super compliment complicated, and you're constantly doing things 325 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: and making decisions. It's not like you just get to 326 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: only if you've been out of motor boats, you mostly 327 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: chill right you drive out there, you're either driving and 328 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: anybody can drive a boat. You can even have done 329 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: it before. You can give the eight year old kid 330 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: to let him drive the boat around, and anybody can 331 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: do it. Not everybody can. Say you got to know 332 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: what the hell you're doing. And so the first thing 333 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: we did was sit down with the instructor and he 334 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: had a couple of visual aids, like big charts with 335 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: all parts on there and everything like that, and go 336 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: through the various parts of the boat. And I thought, 337 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: I'm never gonna remember all this. And so we'd get 338 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: out into the water and he'd say, grab the Halliard. No, 339 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: that's the that's the Forestay, not the forestay. 340 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 2: Get the backstay. That's not the right, Get that, Jim Halliard. 341 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: That's the main sale howyard that I couldn't remember what 342 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: all the parts were. 343 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 2: I just couldn't. 344 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 7: It didn't even sound like English, I know. 345 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 2: And and. 346 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: As trying to explain this to my son, when you 347 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: get older, learning is so much harder than when you're younger. God, 348 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: cause your brain is in the when you're young, your 349 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: brain every single day. When you go to school, you're 350 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: learning new stuff. And then after you get out of school, 351 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: out of college, if you go to college, you know 352 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: you might not learn another thing again the rest of 353 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: your life. So my brain is out of practice for 354 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: getting hit with thirty new terms and immediately being able 355 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: to memorize them and everything like that. I found that 356 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: quite funny. Is that's not the main stay. I don't 357 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: even remember what that is. I'm just grabbing random things 358 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: hoping you'll say, yes, that's what's happening. 359 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 6: Process of elimination. I'm gonna grab everything until I get 360 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 6: it right. 361 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 362 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: And the instructor was super super awesome, really chill. He's 363 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: a high school kid, and what a background he had. 364 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: He lived on a boat with his dad from age 365 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: like six to nine when he was a kid, running 366 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: stuff on a sail boat from Cape Cod to Florida, 367 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: back and forth. And he did that for three years 368 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: of his life, doing like homeschool on the ship. Then 369 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: he went to New Zealand and competed in sailing and 370 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: finished third in the nation for speed sailing. And now 371 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: he's anyway, he's in my town and giving sailing lessons 372 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: among other things. As a sixteen year old, but he 373 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: really knew what he was doing. But all of us, 374 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 1: there were other six of us, these other six adults, 375 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 1: we had no idea what we're doing. 376 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 2: And it was quite hilarious. 377 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: But I got to tell the story a little bit 378 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 1: later about me getting into the argument with the old 379 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: man who kept telling me what to do that turned 380 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: very ugly for a while. 381 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 2: I should have pushed him into the sea. That's what 382 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 2: I should have done. 383 00:17:56,200 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: Yes, well, he goes, yes, sorry, blub blub nice knowing 384 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: y'all tell nice, I'll tell your wife that you died. Valiately, 385 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk to Congressman Tom McClintock coming up in 386 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: just a second of you miss a segment? Orn, howur 387 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand? 388 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Geddy. 389 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 5: Well. 390 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: Currently, Tom McClintock is represents the fifth District of California. 391 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: Will that remain the same after Gavin Newsom gets If 392 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom gets his way about redistricting in California to 393 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 1: try to take on the evil Texans? Any who Welcome 394 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: to the Armstrong and Getty Show. Old friend Tom McClintock again, 395 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: Republican Congressman fifth District of California. 396 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 2: How are you this morning, Tom? 397 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 5: I'm fine, Jack. 398 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 2: How you doing great? You've been in California politics forever. 399 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: What is the back and forth over the years, as 400 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: you know it of like drawing up districts and whether 401 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 1: it was fair or not and all that sort of 402 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: stuff in California? 403 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 5: Well, guys, you know California, all state's reapportion every ten 404 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 5: years because of population shifts. The populations of the districts 405 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 5: have to be as equal as we could make them. That, 406 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 5: of course, then opens the door to Gary mandering, which 407 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 5: has a long history. It goes back to Elbridge Gary, 408 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 5: governor of Massachusetts, signer of the Declaration of Independence, you know, 409 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 5: who first began a joggling line so that his party 410 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 5: would benefit. He drew one district that looked like a salamander. 411 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 5: A newspaper editor said, no, let's call it a Gary mander, 412 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 5: and the name stuck. But the problem is, over the 413 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 5: years has gone from artwork to to science and it 414 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 5: can now be used to badly distort the partisan choices 415 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 5: that the voters make in every election. 416 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 1: And is there any way to do away with this? 417 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it's been going on since the very very beginning. 418 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: Lots of demo deocratic states are all jerrymandered to hack. 419 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: As we all should know by now, Texas isn't inventing 420 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: something new. 421 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, California did get sick and tired of it, 422 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 5: and they adopted constitutional provision calling for it independent commission. 423 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 5: That's what News was trying to bypass. The California Commission 424 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 5: this year in order to do the reapportionment, held one 425 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 5: hundred and ninety six public meetings, They received more than 426 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:31,199 Speaker 5: thirty thousand written communications over nine months. They listened to 427 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 5: every constituency and community in the state, and they drafted 428 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 5: a consensus plan in public. This I guess you could 429 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 5: call it a Gavin mander was drafted behind closed doors 430 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,199 Speaker 5: in a matter of days. And if they succeed, I 431 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 5: think we'd expect this to happen after every election that 432 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 5: the Democrats don't like the way a particular district voted. 433 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 1: Well, so Republicans account for about thirty eight percent of 434 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: the vote last election around, and if Gavin gets his way, 435 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: would have seven percent of the House members in the state. 436 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 2: So that's obviously out of proportion. 437 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 5: And that's with the Independent Commission it's still a stack 438 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 5: deck against California Republicans, mainly because illegal aliens are counted 439 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 5: for districting, which increases the proportional influence in democratic regions. So, 440 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 5: as you point out, it's not only stacked against California 441 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 5: Fornia Republicans. You look at them vote nationally. In twenty 442 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 5: twenty four, Democrats got forty seven percent of the congressional vote, 443 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 5: they got forty nine percent of the congressional seats. That 444 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 5: that's eight seats more than their vote would entitle them. 445 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 5: And that's because in the democratic seat states, the gerrymanders 446 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 5: are absolutely brutal. You know, in Illinois, California's got Republicans 447 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 5: got forty seven percent of the vote, seventeen percent of 448 00:21:56,080 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 5: the seats. Massachusetts, California's Republicans got thirty five center of 449 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 5: the vote and zero seats. 450 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: That is really interesting stuff. I wish mainstream media was 451 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: better at presenting that. And then the jerry mandering, gary 452 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: mandering as you call it, polls very low, like six 453 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: percent of Americans liked the idea, but it happens all 454 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: across the country. 455 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 5: Well, right, and again, Californians got rid of that. The Democrats, 456 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 5: by the way, tried to abolish the Independent Commission once before. 457 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 5: That was in twenty ten with Proposition twenty seven. Voters 458 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 5: rejected at sixty forty. So, you know, and I think 459 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 5: most Americans, you know, whatever their politics, having in it 460 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 5: night an innate sense of fairness. And I think that's 461 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 5: going to be decisive when this comes up to a vote. 462 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: So, talking with Republican California Congressman Tom McClintock of California, 463 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: the most recent piece I'm reading here about immigrations, I 464 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: wish that somehow, someway quickly it would get to the 465 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: Supreme Court. This whole notion of a sanctuary city, sanctuary county, 466 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: sanctuary state, which seems obviously crazy. The whole thing with 467 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: illegal immigration, the way Joe and I have been presenting 468 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: it for quite some time, is if you're going to 469 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: ignore the federal law, what other federal laws can we 470 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: ignore if we don't like them? 471 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 2: In states across the country. Can we just pick and choose. 472 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: Federal laws that we want to ignore, in which ones 473 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: we want to go with? What's your take on it? 474 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 2: Currently? 475 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 5: All right? And if you're going to tolerate illegal immigration, 476 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 5: it makes legal immigration pointless. Start with some simple truths. 477 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 5: If we don't enforce our immigration laws, we have no 478 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 5: immigration laws. If we have no immigration laws, we have 479 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 5: no border. If we have no border, we have no country. 480 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 5: It's not complicated. Our immigration laws weren't written to keep 481 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,479 Speaker 5: people out. They were written to assure that when someone 482 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 5: comes to this country, they come with a sincere desire 483 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 5: to become an American, to obey our laws and contribute 484 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 5: to our nation. Illegal immigration undermines that whole process. And 485 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 5: that's why our current law requires any adult who is 486 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 5: illegal in this country to be detained. That's the exact 487 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 5: wording of the law. Shall be detained. It's not voluntary, 488 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 5: it is required under the law. That's the law that 489 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 5: Biden and the Democrats ignored over the last four years, 490 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,959 Speaker 5: producing the biggest illegal migration in American history. And now 491 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 5: they're shocked that the biggest illegal migration in American history 492 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 5: that they unleashed now has to be followed by the 493 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 5: biggest deportation. 494 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 1: So Republicans control Congress right now and the Senate. Is 495 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: there anything Congress can do to strengthen immigration laws so 496 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 1: that it's the law of the land and not just 497 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: something that one administration does. So that if the Democrats 498 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: win next time around, they can go the other direction. 499 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 5: Right, Well, it is already the law of the land. 500 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 5: And remember the Democrats saying, oh, there's nothing we could 501 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 5: do about this without granting amnesty. And as Trump pointed out, 502 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 5: we didn't need new laws, we needed a new president. 503 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 5: We got one, and within thirty days the borders were secured. 504 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 5: And I think the last number is we're getting close 505 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 5: to two million illegal migrants have now departed the country, 506 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 5: either voluntarily or been for simply removed. But we also, 507 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 5: and this is where Congress comes in, We've got to 508 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 5: enact laws so that a future Democratic president can't once 509 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 5: again simply throw our borders wide open. So we've got 510 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 5: to reform our asylum laws to ensure that only legitimate 511 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 5: claims will be honored and those who are making such 512 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,479 Speaker 5: claims are detained until they're adjudicated. We've got to close 513 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 5: the loopholes, and that means, you know, making the loopholes 514 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 5: that allowed Biden to abuse the limited parole authority that 515 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 5: Congress gave him. We've got to revamp our unaccompany a 516 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 5: minor laws to prevent human trafficking that ran rampant under Biden, 517 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 5: and we've got to rescue the hundreds of thousands of 518 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 5: children that Biden simply lost track of. And we've got 519 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 5: to restore integrity to our temporary and permanent visa programs 520 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 5: so that only those who are in an asset to 521 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 5: America can take advantage of them. The Office to Inspect 522 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 5: Your General is about to come out with a report. 523 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,719 Speaker 5: I think that they documented that during the Biden administration 524 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 5: there were thirteen million visas granted that were completely unvetted. Now, 525 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 5: when you apply for a visa, you go to the 526 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 5: American consulate in your country and there's an interview. They 527 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 5: interview you, they check your background to be sure that 528 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 5: as you come in with the visa, you're not going 529 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 5: to do any harm and you know that you're going 530 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 5: to buy by the terms of the visa. Thirteen million 531 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 5: such visas were issued under Biden without any betting whatsoever, 532 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 5: and that's what the administration's re viewing. 533 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: Now another topic before we let you go, Congressome mcqua. 534 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: One of the big news stories of today, Trump talking 535 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,679 Speaker 1: about sending National Guard troops to Chicago to deal with 536 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: their crime. Now, I think we're all up to speed 537 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 1: on the fact that the president. The federal government has 538 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: the constitutional right to do that in Washington, d C. 539 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: How do you feel about National Guard troops in Chicago. 540 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 5: Well, I'm a federalist, and the federal government is absolutely 541 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 5: supreme in the federal District of Columbia, as you pointed out, 542 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 5: and they are also supreme in the enforcement of federal 543 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 5: laws like our immigration laws, and the President has been 544 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 5: brilliant at both. But local laws are subject to local jurisdiction. 545 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 5: I think we want to be careful if a city 546 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 5: is not actually asking for assistance. I think we want 547 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 5: to be careful about how we insert federal authority into 548 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 5: the enforcement of strictly local laws. And that's going to 549 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,360 Speaker 5: play out obviously, I'm not entirely clear what the President's 550 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 5: proposing for Chicago, but in a local law enforcement theys 551 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 5: to remain in local hands, no matter how badly those 552 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 5: local hands are are handling it. 553 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,239 Speaker 2: I would agree with that. Interesting. Tom McClintock, appreciate your 554 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 2: time today, Tom, Thank. 555 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 5: You very much, my pleasure. Jack good talking to you. 556 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 2: I would agree with that. 557 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: I am not only skeptical of his legal power to 558 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 1: send National Guard troops to Chicago, but I don't know 559 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 1: how I feel about that as a president, and as 560 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: Joe and I always talking about Joe's in England on vacation. 561 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 2: He's going to call in later. 562 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: But as Joe and I are always talking about the 563 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: problem with giving your guy the power to do something 564 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: or looking the other way if he does something that. 565 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 2: Like maybe send troops Chicago. 566 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: Is the other guy the other side's going to be 567 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: in charge at some point? 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I 602 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: thought on the Sunday talk shows yesterday, we can play 603 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: some clips of that later and talk about exactly what 604 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: Gavin's trying to do in California, which would make it 605 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: just unbelievably jerrymandered. Oh, I thought it was interesting. It 606 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: doesn't surprise me Tom McClintock, being the kind of guy 607 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: he is, that he goes ahead and says Gary Mandard 608 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: because that strictly the right word, as you heard from 609 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: the original guy named Gary who the name comes from. 610 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 2: But everybody says Jerry Mander. 611 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: But Tom McClintock is the sort of guy that is 612 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: going to go with Gary Mandard because that's the correct thing, in. 613 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 2: Spite of that's what everybody else says. I'm the other. 614 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: If everybody's saying Jerry Mander, I'm gonna say Jerry manderd 615 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: So that's the way it goes. So how I almost 616 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: pushed an old man into the sea at sailing lessons 617 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: among other things on the way. 618 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 5: Army Strong and. 619 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 2: Geddy, the US Open is officially kicking off. 620 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 8: The record breaking crowds pouring into New York from all 621 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 8: over the world. All eyes are on Tennis Royalty and 622 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 8: Venus Williams set to return to Grand Slam tennis Monday 623 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 8: after two years. 624 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, super thrilling to be back. 625 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 7: It does not get old, It just gets more exciting. 626 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 8: The forty five year old getting a wild card invitation 627 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 8: to play. It's the first time in forty four years 628 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 8: someone her age has competed in women's singles at the USA. 629 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: So that's one interesting story around the US Open tennis tournament. 630 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: If you follow tennis at all, or you might start 631 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: following tennis more often if what is happening at the 632 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: US Open becomes more of the norm. So the headline 633 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: in the New York Times, I don't follow tennis. I 634 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: just became aware of this. At the US Open. Tennis 635 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,479 Speaker 1: etiquette no longer rules, and some players want that to 636 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: be the norm, so they kind of encourage a more 637 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: rambunctious atmosphere at the US Open tennis tournament there in 638 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: New York, music blasting in between points, that sort of 639 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: thing like happens at other big sporting events. Right, didn't 640 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: used to have that at Major League Baseball games or 641 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: NFL games when I was a kid, but now you 642 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: do constantly, uh to just provide a little more buzz, 643 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: a little more entertainment all the time. And trash talking 644 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: your opponent, like pointing at them, saying things to them. 645 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: Stuff like that is starting to catch on and a 646 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: lot of players think cool. 647 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 2: I think it would be better for. 648 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 4: The sport. 649 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 2: To find interesting because the. 650 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: I don't know which side of me what would be 651 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: the right term, the law and order side of me, 652 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: I guess likes decorum, connetiquette and all that sort of 653 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: stuff in all manner of life. But the am I 654 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: ever gonna watch this sport as a TV show? Part 655 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: of me life loves pointing in people's faces and trash 656 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: talking and music in between points. 657 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 7: It definitely makes it more entertaining, no doubt. 658 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: And as Joe is always pointing out, these are TV shows. 659 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: These are just like every other TV show on television. 660 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: The NFL, the US Open, the Bachelorette or Law and Order. 661 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: They're all the same. It's just how many people can 662 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: we get to watch so we can charge as much 663 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: as possible for the commercials in between. 664 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, by the whole point, and. 665 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 6: By allowing that behavior, I mean think over the last 666 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 6: couple of years, how many more tennis headlines we've seen 667 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,959 Speaker 6: because of the behavior and people are paying attention to it. 668 00:33:54,840 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 1: Culturally, I don't like it as I've seen it move 669 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: into youth sports. I talked about this last year when 670 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: my son was playing football. It was amazing to me 671 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: on how this was two years ago. I guess eleven 672 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: year olds after every mundane play, they're popping their jerseys 673 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: and doing the stances and stuff like that. It's just 674 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 1: for eleven year olds play for just every play, and 675 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: the and the and the coaches just I mean no coach. 676 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: When I was a kid, the coach would have benched 677 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: you immediately for doing that. But the coaches didn't say 678 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: anything about it. It's just it's just part of the culture. 679 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: And is that good or bad? 680 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 2: I don't know. 681 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: We don't need to make eleven year old football more 682 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,399 Speaker 1: entertaining for advertisements. 683 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 7: I think, I think leave the kids out of it. 684 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,240 Speaker 6: If the adults want to go out there and smash 685 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 6: their tennis rackets and call each other efforts, that's. 686 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: Cool, but you can't have one without the other though 687 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 1: the kids. The kids watch their heroes and whatever sport 688 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: they're in, and they're going to emulate them, and it's 689 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 1: just that's just the way it is. There's no getting 690 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: around that. So that's the part that bothers me. Uh, 691 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: because guaranteed it will sift down to you know, high 692 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: school tennis. You'll have have somebody score an ace on 693 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: the other player. That's when you hit the ball and 694 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,839 Speaker 1: it lands in the little square and it's so fast 695 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 1: that the other guy can't even get their racket on it. 696 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:12,760 Speaker 1: Usually you're like, yo, you know that sort of stuff, 697 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: and eh, it'll just happen for better or worse. Yeah. 698 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 2: Uh. 699 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 1: For instance, in the WNBA, you throw marital aids under 700 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,800 Speaker 1: the court. If I'm more likely to watch part probably 701 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 1: if there's a chance that sexy toys are going to 702 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 1: be thrown onto the court, and I can, you know. 703 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 7: Watch ever laugh I'm in can't get a good laugh. 704 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 2: Exactly how much time I got, Michael, depends on how 705 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,840 Speaker 2: you keep eating. Yeah no, they've got about two minutes. 706 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 6: And the guy who threw the shmildo is in quite 707 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 6: the oh hot water. 708 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 1: So he's charged with ten different things. I had you 709 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,919 Speaker 1: look that up. So that shmildough that's a good word. 710 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 1: So the guy that threw the shmildo on the court 711 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: being charged with ten different things. 712 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 2: You looked it up. What are they? 713 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,800 Speaker 6: The top charge is second degree attempted assault, a felony 714 00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 6: that carries a maximum of seven years in prison. 715 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 2: Second, what's the assault? I g if it hits somebody 716 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 2: in the head. 717 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,760 Speaker 6: Well, it did hit one of the players, Oh okay. 718 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,720 Speaker 6: Among the other charges are interference with a professional sporting event, 719 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 6: reckless engagement, harassment, and obscenity. 720 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: Not guilty, doll, Yeah, Uh, interruption of a professional sporting event? 721 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 2: Is it crime? 722 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:20,879 Speaker 7: I didn't know that. 723 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: I didn't know that either, for throwing a shmildo on 724 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 1: the court. Bright launching a bright green mildow. Wait, I 725 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: didn't realize it hits somebody in the noggin. 726 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 6: I don't know that it hit her in the nog 727 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:33,879 Speaker 6: It hit one of the players, I want to say, 728 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 6: in the shoulder or something, and she screeched and jumped back. 729 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 7: And then you know, I started as this lime green. 730 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: You know, if I'm if I'm standing around and something 731 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:43,919 Speaker 1: hits me in the head, I think, WHOA, what was that? 732 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 1: And then I looked down and see that it's a 733 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 1: bright green shmildough. I would think it not a good day. 734 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 2: Hmm, who threw that? And what are they? 735 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 7: What is why it was not on my fingo card? 736 00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 1: What message are they sending me right this moment? I 737 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:00,800 Speaker 1: would very confused? 738 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 7: They attracted to me? 739 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 1: How am now? How am I supposed to react to 740 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 1: this with anger? Am I supposed to be turned on? 741 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 1: I'm not exactly sure it's supposed to happen there. We 742 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 1: do a lot of hours, a lot of segments, and 743 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 1: if you miss when, you can get our podcast, Armstrong and. 744 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 2: Getty on demand. 745 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 1: We got Joe Getty calling into the show on the 746 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 1: fourth hour to kick it off, so you're gonna want 747 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 1: to catch that. 748 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 2: Lots of stuff on the way for the Armstrong and 749 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 2: Getty Show. Thanks for joining us Armstrong and Getty.