1 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we will not be put 2 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: up for sale for maybe more than ten billion dollars 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: this week. I'm Greg Rosenthal. I'm here in the Chris 4 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: Westleying podcast studio. That's a reference in the Seahawks officially 5 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: being announced as up forbidding. 6 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 2: That was on Wednesday. 7 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: And yeah, talk about selling high good timing win a 8 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, not that they would be struggling to sell 9 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: the Seahawks before. 10 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 3: You saying that makes me think of what's the number, Like, 11 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 3: what's the number for Greg Rosenthal? 12 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 4: Do you know? 13 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: No, we're in this for the love of the game. Also, 14 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: we don't own anything. Yeah right, uh so not me. 15 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: It'd have to have it starts with a be like 16 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: like like the Seahawks, you know. 17 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it would take. 18 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: At that point, I think we could, you know, feed 19 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: a lot of families for a long time. We could 20 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: start our old production company, Chris Babona would be doing 21 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: long form series about flag football. It would be absolutely electric. 22 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: We're gonna hit every NFL. Uh we will be doing 23 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: some flag football content. Yes, later in the off season. 24 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: We're gonna have a big show about it. Now that 25 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 1: we set it on the show. 26 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 2: You have to do it. It has to happen, and 27 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 2: it will happen. But that's that's in the future. 28 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: Right now is a beautiful part of the regular season 29 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 1: where we got the coaches in place, but everything is 30 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: on the table in terms of cap space, in terms 31 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: of trades that the Dolphins have already started cutting people, 32 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,919 Speaker 1: but for the most part, we don't even know who's gonna, 33 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,839 Speaker 1: you know, be let go. And it really all starts 34 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: picking up next week in Indianapolis. We will be there 35 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: as a podcast. I'm flying there for shows on Wednesday, Tuesday, 36 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: and Monday. I don't know why I said that backwards, 37 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: but Jordan I. 38 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 5: Will also be there. 39 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: Jordan will also be there for a couple of days. 40 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you're not on the Monday show 41 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: because you're meeting it's the big Athletic pow wow. 42 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:01,279 Speaker 2: But we're going to have some guests. 43 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: A couple of general managers have already signed up and 44 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: I'm excited about that. 45 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: But before that, we're going to give a preview, and 46 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 2: we're going. 47 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: To start with Patrick's Dallas Cowboys. Wait when did that 48 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: have It's not your Dallas Cowboys. But for a minute, 49 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: as a young man. You kind of rooted for the 50 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: Cowboys that stopped a while ago, but like me, you 51 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: do appreciate how Dak Prescott spins the ball, so you 52 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: have it in affection for him. 53 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, more than a significant percentage of Dallas Cowboys fans, 54 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 3: right perhaps. And also, yeah, my college classmate, you know, 55 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 3: having a Hall of Fame career that started with the Cowboys. 56 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 2: That was it, and I always forget that part. 57 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: It's okay, that was DeMarcus Ware and I should set 58 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: up three minutes for every NFC team, and we set 59 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: up the offseason and add some big questions to the mix. 60 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: Let's start in the NFCS with the Cowboys. 61 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. 62 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 3: I think the number one question and the thing that 63 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 3: inspires a lot of discussion revolves around George Pickens. 64 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 4: It was gonna be. 65 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 3: A big part of the regular season where I think 66 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 3: the contract circumstance we just recently solve the way that 67 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 3: things devolve with micro Parsons. 68 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 4: I don't think they devolved. 69 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 3: I don't think George Pickens has these delusions where he 70 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 3: can have a discussion with Jerry Jones, where Jerry Jones 71 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 3: has like he sees, oh yeah, we're equals we're just 72 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 3: men having a chat. I think George Pickens knows where 73 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 3: he stands with Jerry Jones, and perhaps the Joneses will 74 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 3: be less likely to do the shit cannery with regards 75 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 3: to George Pickens, and maybe they will be a decision 76 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 3: at some point. Where the team is negative thirty three 77 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 3: million dollars in cap space at the moment, so there 78 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 3: are some needs to solve some problems. I think maybe 79 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 3: an early extension for Quinn Williams. I know that the 80 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 3: deal just went down to acquire him to kind of 81 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 3: ease some of that pain. But obviously the team needs 82 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 3: help on defense and in significant capacity. I think changing 83 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 3: the organizational structure with regards to the way the defense 84 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 3: is called will go a long way in that. But 85 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 3: they need players and talent as well, and they're having 86 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 3: to do that in a situation where they don't have 87 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 3: the cap space. So congratulations Dallas Coup. 88 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: You said he knows where he is in the pecking 89 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: order in terms of not talking to Jerry. But do 90 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: you think the whole CD and him is like a 91 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: long term idea because there even was a couple moments 92 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: in the season where CD didn't seem totally thrilled. And 93 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: then George Pickens there was that whole hubbub where he 94 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: you know, he got criticized a lot for. 95 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 2: You know, a couple of games. It seemed like he checked. 96 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: I do think there's a greater chance that they trade 97 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: him then really makes sense. But I think it's possible 98 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: because like maybe you build the team a different way. 99 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 3: Oh No, they have a history, right right of having 100 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 3: access to incredible talent and then choosing not to utilize 101 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 3: it in those positions. 102 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 4: And I think they can do I think they could. 103 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 3: No, I don't because like in terms of like the 104 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 3: Pickens experience, we make jokes about it, and a lot 105 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 3: of things happen in terms of the negative impacts on 106 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 3: the field as the George Pickens contributions to the twenty 107 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 3: twenty five Dallas Cowboys. He had he had an injury 108 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 3: in the in the Lions game, and the boof didn't 109 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 3: really like him that much. Yeah, and then our perception 110 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 3: kind of shifted after that. But what did he do? 111 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 2: Like what second game? You can't take that away from him. 112 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 6: Yeah, he's such a difference maker for the passing game. Now, 113 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 6: does that mean that I think they're going to pay 114 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 6: him you know, multi year, big money or any team 115 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 6: right now. No, I think he's going to go somewhere 116 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 6: and be there for a year. If he's gonna if 117 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 6: he's gonna leave the team, or he gets tagged. You know, 118 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 6: it's been reported that he that they're going to start 119 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 6: the process of tagging him. 120 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 2: Now. 121 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 6: I will say, we talked about this on the Monday show, 122 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 6: The Cowboys of It All, something about this will drag 123 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 6: out way longer than it needs to, just so that 124 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 6: there are headlines about it. And really the focus underneath 125 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 6: all of this should be their defense truly and will 126 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 6: be their defense. Defensive coordinator Christian Parker one of the 127 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 6: youngest who's going to be calling a defense in the NFL. 128 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 5: Super talented guy, and I know him well. 129 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 6: I've gone way back with him and studied his scheme 130 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 6: and how he wants to be sort of mold is 131 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 6: vic Fangio defense moving forward. And he could coax a 132 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 6: couple of Eagles free agents to come over with him. 133 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 6: He was known as quite a popular coach with the 134 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 6: players over there in Philadelphia. 135 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, Nikobe Dean is available, Reid Blanketship and just available. 136 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: They also have some key free agents, not maybe Keys 137 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: like players that played a lot of STAPs Jenevian Clowney, 138 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: Sam Williams, Donovan Wilson, Dante Fowler, Kenneth Murray. All of 139 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: them played quite a bit for them this last season 140 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: and might not be on the team this next year. 141 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 2: They are all hitting freeency. You are up with the Giants. 142 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 6: The John Harbaugh era begins as he officially we think 143 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 6: formally officially officially now officially finalized his staff a little 144 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 6: earlier this month and also finalized the we all report 145 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 6: to John Harbaugh ness of that entire staff predictably so 146 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 6: to me, I thought, there's so much with the Giants 147 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 6: that needs to happen moving forward. 148 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 5: They have some really good east Is to start with. 149 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 6: They obviously they think they found their quarterback in Jackson 150 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 6: dark camp Scataboo coming off that major injury. 151 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 5: We'll see how he returns. 152 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 6: They have one of the quietly more underrated offensive lines 153 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 6: I think in the NFL. When Andrew Thomas is healthy, 154 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 6: they have real potential on the defensive line. For me, 155 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 6: big picture for this team as John Harbub begins to 156 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 6: build what he wants this to be is taking the 157 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 6: past history of talent acquisition for the Giants, which is 158 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 6: basically Joe Shane going after good players but not really 159 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 6: knowing how to put them all into the puzzle together 160 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 6: or how they could all compliment and fit each other 161 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 6: in a way that screams cohesiveness and turning that into 162 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 6: an actual identity. To me, that is the thing I'm 163 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 6: most curious about. 164 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 2: With the Giants. 165 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: And to remind the listeners, Dinnard Wilson, who was the 166 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: Titans defensive coordinator last year, is the defensive coordinator here. 167 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: Matt Naggi was who he settled for at offensive coordinator 168 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: and then he said. 169 00:07:58,520 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 4: Well silent. 170 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: He literally was public saying Monkin was his first choice, 171 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: and then he felt so bad about it that you 172 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: did you hear that quote that really stuck out to 173 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: me with it, he said, Matt Naggi could be the 174 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: greatest coordinator of all time. That's what we're hoping for. 175 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: I mean, he settled for him. There's a second choice. 176 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 4: I mean that is two flamethrowers at Matt Naggi. This 177 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 4: week on this. 178 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: Show, they have some good free agentcy. You mentioned the 179 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: offensive line. They have two starters available in free agency, 180 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: maybe the top tackle available, Jermaine Aluminiumer and Greg Van Roten, 181 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: who's started for a couple of years. Wandale is also 182 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: probably likely to leave. I think they could trade Dexter 183 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: Lawrence and or Kevon Tiodaux. Not a ton of cap space. 184 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: So how aggressive is is this? Like changing of the 185 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: guards we'll see. 186 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 3: I think it'll be fairly aggressive in an opportunity where 187 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 3: a lot of people and through other f are trying 188 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 3: to prove themselves. I think they're exceedingly aggressive in at 189 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 3: least the format in which they do it. 190 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: The success the defense, especially you look at cornerback, linebacker, 191 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: defensive tackle. 192 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, and it'll be a really important Again, it goes 193 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 6: back to me. I know it sounds like kind of 194 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 6: a little bit too like space cadet, but it does 195 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 6: go back to me as like, oh, what is your identity? 196 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 6: Because really what that is is basically saying what is 197 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 6: the backbone of what we want to be and how 198 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 6: do we build the ribcage around it kind of a thing. 199 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 6: And that's like what they need to do through the draft. 200 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 6: And I think they could be aggressive in free agency, 201 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 6: but I in my memory, John Harbaugh kind of led 202 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 6: effort is not going to try to go out and 203 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 6: spend big more so, move off of players he doesn't 204 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 6: necessarily want around. Kevon Thibodau might be one of those players. 205 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 1: I think it's fascinating because I think this is truly 206 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: the first John Harbaugh led effort, though I never got 207 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: the field. I mean, of course he had a big 208 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: say in Baltimore. To me, that was always a front office. 209 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: So I think it's very difficult for a coach to 210 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: have as much responsibility as John Harbaugh has because I 211 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 1: think he's gonna have it. But Mike Brable's pulling it 212 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: off right now. It's working for him. I got the Eagles. 213 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: I got two options for my introductory question here. They're 214 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,719 Speaker 1: kind of similar in a way, like number one, is 215 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: this the most fascinating team in the offseason? A bit 216 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: of a leading question because I'm going to present the 217 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: case of why so much is going on? Or are 218 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: the Eagles as we know them done? And by that, 219 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: I mean here's the Eagles as we know them. Jeff 220 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 1: Stoutlin good offensive line play starts at all and Jeff 221 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: Stouton's gone and Lane Dickerson, I mean that was a 222 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: great uh what's the word for that? 223 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 2: When you when you make the mistake port MONTU. Maybe 224 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 2: it is. 225 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: Lane Johnson and Landon Dickerson are both considering retiring. That's 226 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: one story that we didn't hit during Super Bowl Week, 227 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 1: the multiple reports that said Landon Dickerson, at twenty seven 228 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 1: years old, is considering retiring. That's sad because of all 229 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: the injuries, which speaks to maybe he even if he 230 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: does play football, maybe he needs a year off, like 231 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: he's not right. He's young, but he's not right. Lane 232 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: Johnson not right physically. Are they more likely to retire 233 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: because Stouton's not there? And by the way, that was 234 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: the worst season Jeff Stalton's ever coached for an offensive line, 235 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: Not saying it was his fault, but it was the 236 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: lowest performance he ever got out of an Eagles offensive line. 237 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 2: So I do want to. 238 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: Get to the other parts of the roster, but to me, 239 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: that's the Eagles and it's going to be fascinating with 240 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: Sean mannon this new coordinator who brought out along his 241 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: own guy as an offensive line coach replacing that, it's 242 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: a real big change into the guard for who the 243 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: Eagles are. 244 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 3: Well, it's significant at least in terms of perception where 245 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 3: I think that played into a lot of the problems 246 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 3: where it was the idea that, oh, Stout's gonna heal 247 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 3: all these wounds and that's why Makai Beck Beck can 248 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 3: walk and we can just move on. Where it didn't 249 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 3: work out for either party in that and so I 250 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 3: think at least the organization is probably more. 251 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 4: Aware of where its lapses are. 252 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 3: But general question is, you know, with Nick Sirianni, is 253 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 3: the offensive coordinator a head coach caliber offensive coordinator And 254 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 3: if they're able to find that, then it's. 255 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: Great and he could be the next Sean McVay with that, 256 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,719 Speaker 1: like right under our nose. And losing Lane dick I 257 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: mean Lane Dickerson, let's just call them that. Let's both 258 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: Losing Lane Dickerson would be the biggest loss any team 259 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: has this entire off season. 260 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, the. 261 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 2: Number to elite offensive line. 262 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 6: Now, the splits when he was on the field versus 263 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 6: off the fields were insane, run and pass. 264 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: Lane Dickerson uses the pronoun well Lane Johnson. But yes, 265 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: so if we're combining them, yes, yes, But. 266 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 6: To this point, I find it so fascinating that the 267 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 6: Eagles as an organization opted to move to basically allow 268 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 6: a relative unknown come in and usurp someone they do know. 269 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 6: Like to me, that says an in Stoutland, because there 270 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 6: reporting that came out that Jeff Stalton left because in part, okay, 271 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 6: well I'm not gonna be as big of a part 272 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 6: of the puzzle. And you're bringing this new OC who 273 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 6: wants to install his own stuff and all this stuff. 274 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 6: I'm sitting there and I'm like, do the Eagles know 275 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 6: themselves as well? Maybe do they know where they're at 276 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 6: right now? Or are they just trying desperately to patch 277 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 6: at holes and saying okay, come in, do something different. 278 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 5: Maybe hopefully that works. 279 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 1: They could trade aj Brown, they could trade Tanner McKee. 280 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 1: Will they sign one of the top free agents. Jalen Phillips, 281 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: Dallas Goddard, Nikobe Dean are free agents. It's fascinating, and 282 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: they need defensive line depth, which they've always been great at. 283 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: They could be outstanding. They have the highest variants right now, 284 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: I think of any team. It could be like a 285 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: Super Bowl favorite, or it could go quite wrong. The 286 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: Commanders they showed how wrong it went last season. How 287 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: far you can fall Yes one year. 288 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 4: And I'm glad to have a team with a whole 289 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 4: lot of cap space, so I. 290 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 3: Can, you know, play a little football, But I do 291 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 3: think Deebo's gone. Ertz get well soon gone. Von Miller 292 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 3: snap percentage hasn't been outside of it hasn't been north 293 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 3: of forty in four years, so that's probably gone. Marcus 294 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 3: Maroti I think has to be back. Considering the you know, 295 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 3: the lingering issues for Jayden, I think this is the 296 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 3: spot for Isaiah likely, so it wouldn't be a far move, 297 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 3: but he could come there fill that Ertz hole after 298 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 3: the injury. 299 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 4: And also, you know, sorry about the sale of. 300 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 3: The Seahawks, but this is the spot for Rashid Shaheed, 301 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 3: who listen, free agent as well, who can take some 302 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 3: of that flyaway responsibility away from Terry McLaurin to allow 303 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 3: him to operate a little more elsewhere. Would be a 304 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 3: good spot for this team. And yeah, Jayden stays healthy 305 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 3: and they win twelve games to go. 306 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: To the playoff y and they're gonna go after it. 307 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: They're gonna spend so much money. 308 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 6: I really like that Rashid Shaheed fit there because at 309 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 6: a certain point they were throwing go balls to Debo 310 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 6: and you know, not for lack of effort, but it 311 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 6: just you have to infuse speed and youth, especially on defense. 312 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 6: You need to infuse youth, and you need to infuse 313 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 6: speed on the offensive side. Even when they were sort 314 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 6: of like running this very interesting heavy personnel two seasons 315 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 6: ago offense that was a departure from what Cliff Kingsbury 316 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 6: at the time had typically run, they just felt they 317 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 6: felt slow, They felt very very slow, and then it 318 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 6: was like this behemoth that was just going to sort 319 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 6: of overwhelm you versus and then take shots at Terry 320 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 6: McLaurin versus. I think they want to get faster. I 321 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 6: think I know they want to get younger. Those two 322 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 6: things have to be key and critical for them. 323 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: I think they'll cut marsha On Lattimore. And you mentioned 324 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: some of the free agents. It is crazy to think 325 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: about all these names. Almost all of them are towards 326 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: the end of their career. Deebo, Bobby Wagner, Andrew Wiley, 327 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: Noah Igbinoghany Von Miller who's not a free agent, but 328 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: I think they're going to cut him, Jonathan. 329 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 2: Jones, ertz Echeler. 330 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: It was on this team like there's just a lot 331 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: of people that are going and they have needs everywhere 332 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: I looked on the roster, I would say, accept safety. 333 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: They're pretty good at safety and defensive tackle as long 334 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: as they don't trade dron paint. But watch out, they're 335 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: gonna go nuts this offseason. 336 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 3: The thing about Bobby Wagner, though the last time he 337 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 3: played less than ninety four percent of defensive snaps was 338 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 3: in twenty twelve, it was his rookie year. He played 339 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 3: ninety nine percent of defensive snaps. The past two years, 340 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 3: he's still Bobby Wagoner. 341 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: Okay, is it disrespectful? Did we hit the buzzer? Or 342 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: do we have a minute left? I lost track here? 343 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: Let me know, Eric, okay, thirty seconds? Is it disrespectful 344 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: to make Wagner the number one oh one player on 345 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: my list? I consider it an honor that person just 346 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: stays there as an anchor, even as players get cut 347 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: and move up and down below him. 348 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 3: I mission you a challenge to find one hundred better 349 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 3: free agents than Bobby Wagner, who's played ninety nine percent 350 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 3: of snaps. 351 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 2: Last year agents this year? Do you know what? It is? 352 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 5: Interesting? Though I don't. 353 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 6: This is not based on reporting at all. Let me 354 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 6: be clear about that. But usually when a guy wins 355 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 6: Walter Payton Man of the Year in the twilight of 356 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 6: his career. He's thinking about what comes after football too, 357 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 6: and he's obviously Bobby's been involved in so many things 358 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 6: for his entire career that have been for the greater 359 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 6: good of society and everyone in it. 360 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 5: But I was wondering about that a little bit. 361 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: Unless you're Klaiss Campbell, where you pull a fast one. Yeah, 362 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 1: just get better and better every year. 363 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 5: I'm back, bitches. 364 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 2: Jordan, you are up with the Bears. 365 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, really really interesting case study to me because it's 366 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 6: very clear that they're ahead of schedule and a lot 367 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 6: of elements on their with their offense and still you know, 368 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 6: developing that quarterback head coach slash play caller relationship. But 369 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 6: in terms of their run game, their offensive line, the 370 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 6: way they use their tight ends, you know, this is 371 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 6: ahead of schedule for the first year head coach. On 372 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 6: the defensive side, this is where I'm expecting to see 373 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 6: the most change for this Bears group, because even though 374 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 6: the Bears defense played admirably, especially when teams I don't 375 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 6: know absurdly decided they were just canda throw at them 376 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 6: all game through the postseason, they were really they were 377 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 6: really solid. They're a team built to defend the pass. 378 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 6: They have been for a couple of years now, but 379 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 6: they need help up front. They need to get better 380 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 6: at rushing the passer without the blitz, even though they 381 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 6: blitzed very effectively at times. I could see him being 382 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 6: super super aggressive and free agency to address some of 383 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 6: these needs, knowing that they are a suddenly a win 384 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 6: now team, especially with Caleb Williams on that rooky contract. 385 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 6: But they have to clear up some space. First, cap 386 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 6: space first. They're currently five point three million dollars over 387 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 6: the cap. It is a little ironic that DJ Moore, 388 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 6: you know, it could potentially be traded. He would definitely 389 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 6: get them under the cap with a move. But I'm 390 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 6: curious to see if he actually is on the block 391 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 6: and if so, where would he fit best. 392 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 3: My inside source into Greg Rosenthal's brain, which is by 393 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 3: talking to him and chotting him every time DJ Moore 394 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 3: makes a play, saying this is it. They have to 395 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 3: bring him back. Greg firmly believes that that was the 396 00:18:58,320 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 3: last place I. 397 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 5: Could see I could see him going. 398 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 6: No. 399 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: I just think with the construction of their roster and 400 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 1: the time in the money they can save in the 401 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: market that he'd have that he's. 402 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 2: Gone get a third round pick for him or something 403 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 2: like that. 404 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: I think they could cut Comet, they could cut Deandre's Swift. Weirdly, 405 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: they do need to clear up some money because they 406 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: have to spend on defense. Kevin bayerd Jakwan Brisker, Nayshn Wright, 407 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: and Chauncey Gutner Johnson are all free agents. And what 408 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: you said is right on their front. On defense is 409 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: their biggest need. So yeah, but you're losing and Kevin 410 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: Byer's sixty percent of your secondary So that's two big needs. 411 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:40,360 Speaker 2: You got to kind of. 412 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 6: You you hit the nail on the head. Kevin Byard 413 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 6: is probably their most important or like like biggest hinge 414 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 6: point where it could go either way. 415 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 5: Free agent. 416 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 6: He's a team captain seven interceptions last season. But Ryan 417 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 6: Poles kind of came out in the media earlier this 418 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 6: offseason was talking about how like, oh, it's going to 419 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 6: be really difficult to get something done. Well, yeah, they're 420 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 6: over the cap, and if you're going to extend this guy, 421 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 6: you know it's not going to be a small amount 422 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 6: of money. So this is one that's very very going 423 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 6: to be very very interesting because they do need help 424 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 6: in other areas badly. 425 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about the old Dennis Allen guys he could 426 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: he could bring in there, Cam Jordan, he wanted to 427 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: go to a team with maybe a better chance to 428 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl. David on Yamada still playing quite well. 429 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if he got along with Delonte Taylor, 430 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: but that he brought Chauncey Gardner Johnson back in the bold. 431 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 4: If I could find love, then it can work off. 432 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 2: I could actually see that happening. 433 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: All right, we got the Lions, and this is just 434 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: more of a big picture question. 435 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 2: What's their second act? 436 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: I think, you know, Brad Holmes, Dan Campbell, they I 437 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 1: think they're kind of through their first iteration. They're at 438 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: the point almost where the Rams were ready to trade 439 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: Jared Goff. The Lions are obviously not trading Jared Goff. 440 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: I just mean, like at the point of the team 441 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: build where like they got stuck a little. 442 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 2: They need to change things up, And. 443 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 1: Yet you look at their roster, their entire offense could 444 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: be coming back if they don't trade David Montgomery. Like 445 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 1: basically all these guys are under contract. They don't have 446 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: a ton of huge free agents that not an offense, 447 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 1: but DJ Reader, Alex Anzeloni, some cornerbacks on defense you 448 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: can restructure to open up cap space. But they do 449 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: not have much cap space, and they have a new 450 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, so I don't know what they're gonna do. 451 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: I'm really curious because kind of like the Broncos before, 452 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: but in a different way. I think they could go 453 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,239 Speaker 1: in a few different directions, but they don't have a 454 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: ton of screaming needs other than just getting better line play, 455 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 1: which is like everyone's need. 456 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 2: But I think especially just kind of. 457 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 6: Crazy though, thinking about how solid they've been there for 458 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 6: a couple of years now in this Holmes Campbell era, 459 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 6: and then just really you know, looked uncharacteristic a time. 460 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: Decker is Taylor Decker, their left backle is curiously considering retirement. 461 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 1: Would not surprise me at all if he does, and 462 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 1: so that that would open up a big hole at left. 463 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 3: Tack and I think I can make the cap a 464 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 3: number even worse because it makes long term sense to 465 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 3: extend Gibbs and just go ahead and do. 466 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: It now that the way they can play with the 467 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: money that will help the cap ultimately, It never makes 468 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: sense to me but you know, you push it into 469 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 1: the future. I don't know what his number is. I 470 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 1: guess it won't help. But he's such a long term 471 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: at heart. You know, he's such a Saints guy at heart. 472 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: I'm just saying the long term contracts won't kill you. 473 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: That absolutely makes sense. They're so good at extending the 474 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: right players. Early, Brian Brandt normally would have been a 475 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: candidate for one coming off an injury, so that might 476 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: complicate that. 477 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 6: I'm curious about what they'll do in the draft because 478 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 6: they are a pretty complete team now. They could stand 479 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 6: to add some support on defense. They could just stand 480 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 6: to add a boost in a lot of the different 481 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 6: especially sort of like the defensive skill spots. They could 482 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 6: definitely add there nere edge, but they need more pass 483 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 6: rush for sure. And I am really curious about what 484 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 6: they decided to do because Brad Holmes, the team changes 485 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 6: and the error that they're in has kind of changed 486 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 6: as well. They're more settled in, you know, they have 487 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 6: good bones and now they're kind of just like figuring 488 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 6: out like what they want to build around it. But 489 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 6: I feel like this is like Brad Holmes will always 490 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 6: draft the guys they really really want and won't necessarily 491 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 6: look at positional value or charts or anything like that. 492 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 6: They'll just go after the guys that they want. So 493 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 6: this is a team so unpredictable to me in the draft. 494 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 6: But because I don't necessarily think they're going to be 495 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 6: going for need, even though they should go for. 496 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: Need, they could trade David Montgomery drew pet things that 497 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: he really liked them, coordinator, but. 498 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 5: It's not up to by the way, by the way. 499 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 2: Kids started. 500 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: By the way, Patrick, you're up with the green Bay 501 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: Detroit just saying that's that's. 502 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 2: Perfect, that's great. 503 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, the fan base was mad at it. I was like, 504 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 5: you guys, this is awesome. What are we talking about here? 505 00:23:58,720 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 4: Be fun? 506 00:23:59,200 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 5: Who did you want? 507 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 2: Kingsbury? God? 508 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: So the Green Bay Packers that's a drop, by the way, 509 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: who did you want? 510 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 2: Cliff Kingsbury God? 511 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 3: Although a little more direct than the Matt n Aggie 512 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 3: heat that we've had. 513 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, unfortunately, Kingsbury's what is season? 514 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 5: I'm starting to get angry. 515 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: The special assistant to the head coach, so I don't 516 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:19,199 Speaker 1: know when we can really use it. 517 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 2: But he's with the Rams now. All right, let's go 518 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 2: back to the. 519 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 4: Assistant to the regional manager. 520 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 3: I believe the Green Bay Packers should bring back Christian 521 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 3: Watson as well as Jayden Reid on the offense. I 522 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 3: think generally you would like to be able to retain 523 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 3: Malik Willis that that's not going to happen. So perhaps 524 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 3: it's the Packers who are players in the Tanner McKee 525 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 3: sweepstakes as they look to who would get a backup 526 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 3: quarterback in a spot where they've needed a backup quarterback 527 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 3: in the past couple of years. In terms of their 528 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 3: you know, organizational structure, They're they're not necessarily going out 529 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 3: and I think being big splashes in free the splashes 530 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 3: are done for the Green Bay Packers. Do you ultimately, 531 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 3: because I do have a question for this team as 532 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 3: I remember the exercise a little bit better, Greg, just 533 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 3: wait for Micah to be better or is there a 534 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 3: need to acquire an explosive defensive player prior to Micah's return? 535 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 2: An interesting question. I think I think you just wait. 536 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:31,479 Speaker 1: Ultimately, he's gonna be hopefully ready and back to fully 537 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: Micah by the time that you're at the part of 538 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 1: the season that really means something to the Packers these days, 539 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: because the fans are sick of just the seventh. Yeah, 540 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 1: get into the playoffs, so I think you're gonna have 541 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: full Micah. 542 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 3: Hopefully a lot of fan bases will be very comfortable 543 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 3: with that particular dichotomy. 544 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: They it's a tough offseason for Gudakuns their GM because 545 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: they don't have cap space right now they can open 546 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 1: it up, and last year they kind of deviated off 547 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 1: their pat Patrick where they did spend money on Aaron 548 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: Banks and Nate Hobbs specifically in free agency. 549 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 2: Neither one of those worked. 550 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 1: Out, and they have more solid young players available than 551 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: almost any team. Malik Willis, Romeo Dobs, quay Walker. They're 552 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: left tackle Rashid Walker. He's definitely leaving and he's probably 553 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: gonna get paid elsewhere. I think kuay Walker's probably leaving 554 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: to Inigbari, who was a starter for them, like a 555 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: lot of players, and they had their special times. Coach 556 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: Rich Basacia suddenly retired on Tuesday night out of nowhere. 557 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 4: I don't know what. 558 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 2: Something's going something. 559 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I haven't yet listened to him. 560 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 6: My colleague at the Athletic does a great podcast, Matt Schneidman, 561 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 6: and I haven't yet listened to it. 562 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 5: But the way he teased it. 563 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 6: I saw I get notifications for him, and I saw 564 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 6: the share the share post, and the way he teased 565 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 6: it made it seem like there was like something else 566 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 6: going on and he's very connected. 567 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: Changed at this time of the offseason, Yeah, mid February 568 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: for a veteran coach. 569 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 6: And it was like framed as like mutually parted ways. 570 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 6: And obviously there's there's gonna be more to this story. 571 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 6: It is interesting, you know, Matt Lafleur now partnered with 572 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 6: Jonathan Gannon, so two guys who could also be uh 573 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 6: actors playing cops in a movie. In my opinion, would 574 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 6: like it's gonna be fascinating to me because this is 575 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 6: really the first time that Matt Lafleur has had this 576 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 6: sort of like fangio esque but very malleable defense in 577 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 6: his building. And I'm very interested to see how that goes. 578 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: And Yeah, there's some big name players who I'm not 579 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: sure are going to be there with Shaun Gary, I 580 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: think Josh Jacobs will be there. Zach tom underwent surgery. 581 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: I think it's the worst shape the Packers roster has 582 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: been in a minute. I don't think they're quite as 583 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 1: strong as. 584 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 4: I think Kwai Walker needs to be back. 585 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm keeping an eye on. 586 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: I have a feeling I'm not a huge quay Walker guy, 587 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: that he's gonna he's gonna be one of those guys 588 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: that is not overly high on my list that will 589 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: just get a lot of money, which I hate to 590 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: eat that. I'm just like looking at some of these guys, like, 591 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: I know that guy is going to get a big contract, 592 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: but I still have him ranked fifty second, and. 593 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 3: You're gonna put him forty five spots ahead of Pro 594 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 3: Football Hall of Famer future Bobby Wagner because you want 595 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 3: to put him at the disrespectful spot. 596 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,239 Speaker 6: All right, love a Patrick claven callback. It is one 597 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 6: of my most favorite things. 598 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 2: I love it when you hit out and make a 599 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 2: good point against me. 600 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 1: I am very influenced easily, I would say by the 601 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: last thing that I've heard. So now Wagner is going 602 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: to go up like you've done it. I'm very malleable 603 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: with these lists. Wagner is going to move up, by 604 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: the way. I have someone else in mind for one 605 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: oh one, but I was thinking about Wagner's as one 606 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: of the options. All right, you got the Viking, one 607 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: of the teams I could argue might have a better 608 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: roster than the Packers except for that big important position. 609 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 6: Yes, well, I'm so glad you said that, Greg, because 610 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 6: I'd like to start this second size with a question, 611 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 6: first going to you, Patrick, and then to Greg. Who 612 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 6: is going to be the Minnesota Vikings quarterback in twenty 613 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 6: twenty six? 614 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 4: Jj McCarthy, what, Greg? 615 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 2: Who is going to be? 616 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 6: Who is going to be the Minnesota Vikings quarterback in 617 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 6: twenty twenty six? 618 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 2: Greg? He is the betting favorite, Tyler. 619 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, and listen, I'm just gonna I'm gonna be that. 620 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Mac Jones. That was the one I liked, 621 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 2: Mac Jones. 622 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 5: Mac Jones? 623 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 2: Who oh sho? Did I step on your answer? No? 624 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 2: Okay you didn't. No, thank god, let's go. 625 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 6: I'm gonna be that, uh that meme of the guy 626 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 6: who's like slowly trying to open a pot and then 627 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 6: all of a sudden everything bursts into flames. 628 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 5: With my suggestion that I will bring to the table here, 629 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 5: the Colts. 630 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 6: Don't get something done with Daniel Jones, who goes back 631 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 6: to the Minnesota Vikings, where now he is assured that 632 00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 6: he will be their long term star. 633 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 5: Arder and they he gets paid as well. 634 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 6: The only problems here, guys, besides the the basic premise 635 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 6: is also the Vikings are forty three million plus dollars 636 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 6: over the cap. Currently they have very few actual free agents, 637 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 6: just three of them who are set to have expired deals. 638 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 6: Oh and also just the small little note that Kevin 639 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 6: O'Connell needs a general manager. So aside from all of that, 640 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 6: missus Lincoln. 641 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 3: How is the play considering the off season? The statement 642 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 3: out of Minneapolis appears to have been that Kevin O'Connell 643 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 3: doesn't need a general manager, right, so he's got it. 644 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: True, he's got what's his name, Brazinski's been there for 645 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: twenty years. They are they're a very loyal organization. 646 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 4: That's depending on who you are. 647 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 5: Well, I think recent recent, fair recent data. 648 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 2: Might show us like there aren't many. 649 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: Like one of the reasons that didn't work out necessarily 650 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: for QUESI was he inherited so many people from the 651 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: previous staff in the front office that have been there 652 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: a long time. So I think in their mind like, hey, 653 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: we've got entire staff that's that's been around for a while. 654 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, it is really interesting to think about what 655 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: they do they'll do because they're well over the cap. 656 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: They're very lucky they kept Brian Floores because he fits 657 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: the personnel that they have. But they have to make 658 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: decisions on Javon Hargrave and TJ. Hockinson, on Brian O'Neil, 659 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: on Aaron Jones. They have some players retiring, Harrison Smith, CJ. Ham, 660 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: Ryan Kelly. Is he going to play football again because 661 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: he's had these concussions and obviously you have needs. I 662 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: forget I didn't mention Jordan Addison as a potential trade 663 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: when we did that Colum, and that was one where 664 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: the I think the Vikings fans asked me and I 665 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: was like, oh, yeah, I should have said Jordan Addison. 666 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 2: I could see that, yeah. 667 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 5: They I think that. 668 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 6: Small ads that upgrade a couple of key positions could 669 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 6: also mean parting ways with some of those guys that 670 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 6: you specifically said on the offensive side, Like I think 671 00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 6: that looking at upgrading their running backs, I love Aaron Jones, 672 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 6: but I think that they just want just a. 673 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 5: Little bit more juice there. And he has to. Kevin 674 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 5: O'Connell finally has to start running the ball the way 675 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 5: he always says he wants to. 676 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: Every offseason, still waiting works for him for a while 677 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: until it didn't. All right, let's talk about the Cardinals, 678 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: but let's do it after a break. Let's hit the 679 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: most fascinating division in football that's all coached by like 680 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: the same exact coaching tree, the NFC weapon. We are 681 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,479 Speaker 1: back on NFL daily and we try to be an 682 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: organization here that doesn't just draft talent but develops it. 683 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: And Jordan is developing quite a takes woman, throwing that 684 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones to the Vikings thing out knowing that could. 685 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 2: Be a big hit if it scores for the Jordan Brand. 686 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 5: Listen, I yes, they needed more wins the Jordan Brank. 687 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 6: You know what, I have seen enough rom coms to 688 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 6: know that you don't let the one that got away 689 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 6: get away twice. You guys, so they already had the 690 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 6: experience of watching Sam Donald. 691 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,719 Speaker 1: You're in a perfect spot for a take because if 692 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: it doesn't happen, it's no one's gonna blame you. And 693 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: it's I think you're hitting on something that it's more 694 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: likely to happen than most people would realize. 695 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 2: And it's a you're staking that claim. 696 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: You said, Patrick, you had some hot takes to throw out, 697 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: I am really intrigued. 698 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 3: Oh well, it'll be a deep tease, Okay, okay, I 699 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 3: do want to say that, you know, and so if 700 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 3: we're making the romance parallels, if we go to the 701 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 3: lache verse, because there's a lot of discussion about types, 702 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 3: which I think are stupid because you have people with like, oh, 703 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 3: you like this type of person and it's a hair color. 704 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 3: Is the type of person Sam Donald and Dimes. I 705 00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 3: think if you're comparing one to the speaking of hair color, 706 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 3: there's there's significant differences there where I feel like that 707 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 3: would be a mistake. 708 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 2: I also, I don't think this is a crazy island 709 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 2: to be on. 710 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: Signing Daniel Jones to be your long term answer after 711 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: tearing his achilles and an incredibly up and down, an 712 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: injury played career, not not much of a safer bet 713 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: than JJ McCarthy. 714 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 6: Is right, Yeah, well, Daniel Jones to that point, Hello Cully, 715 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 6: to that point, I wouldn't have thought that ideally the 716 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 6: JJ McCarthy draft was a safe bet. 717 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, and they did it anyway. 718 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. 719 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm not saying the take is great. I'm I'm 720 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 2: a little worried for it. 721 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 5: I don't know I feel conscious right now, we feel 722 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 5: is good. 723 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 4: The move by the team to take his good. 724 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 2: I worry. 725 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: I worry a little bit about the Colts and the Vikings, 726 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 1: expecting like MVP candidate Daniel Jones in the next year 727 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 1: or two, wherever Patrick, you are not up next, I'm 728 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 1: up next? 729 00:34:58,440 --> 00:34:58,839 Speaker 2: Is that right? 730 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:05,280 Speaker 1: It's the Arizona Cardinals and Mike Lafleur, who was behind 731 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 1: the eight ball when building out his coaching staff. But 732 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: he's got Nathaniel Hackett and he kept Nick Rollis their 733 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: old defensive coordinator, which I think was a really good 734 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 1: move because they had very specific defensive pieces which now 735 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 1: fit better. They do have something I looked for in 736 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 1: this exercise, a good combination of cap space and a 737 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,320 Speaker 1: lack of meaningful free agents. They do obviously have a 738 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: lot of holes to fill. I don't think their roster 739 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: is in as quite bad a shape as like the 740 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 1: record would have indicated last year, so that's a good thing. 741 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 1: I am concerned, however, by the report from Tony Pauline 742 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: that they're intrigued by Tyson Bagen, the Bears backup quarterback, 743 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: Like does Jacobe fit on this roster? 744 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,359 Speaker 2: I don't know what to say. About this team right now. 745 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: I think they could cut James Connor, Dalvin Tomlinson, maybe 746 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 1: Buddha Baker, which would pain me, but he didn't play 747 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: great last season. But overall kind of yeah, they have 748 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,800 Speaker 1: an open canvas. It's not a new GM, it's mantiospor If. 749 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 6: That is a I'm not questioning reporting. But this time 750 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 6: of year, it's a lot of smoke about that. Agents 751 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 6: are putting out about drafts and my client this and 752 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,720 Speaker 6: my client that, and smoke screens and all this stuff. 753 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 6: But that if they are actually interested in Tyson Bagent, 754 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 6: I think it's they're saying less so that they're interested 755 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 6: in Tyson Bajent and more so that they're committed to 756 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 6: finding like a bridge quarterback. 757 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think take a couple swings at quarterback 758 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,240 Speaker 1: maybe this year. Yeah, really one if you're keeping Jacoby, 759 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,879 Speaker 1: take one swing as a mid level option. I think 760 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 1: they could be a Tanner McKey type of team or 761 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 1: that type of player. There's not really those free agents 762 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 1: out there though, like the backups are the Mariota is 763 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 1: the best version of it, but there's the Trubisky types 764 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: like Tyrod Like there aren't many younger players that are 765 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 1: going to be available unless they just decided to blow 766 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 1: Malik Willis out of the water. 767 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 2: Money wise, they could afford to do it. 768 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, they did that crazy. They took a quarterback number 769 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,760 Speaker 3: one overall of your years ago. Understand the old enterprise 770 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 3: has been to blame Kyler Murton. 771 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 2: My god, but they're the Melik Willis team. I don't 772 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 2: know why. 773 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,399 Speaker 5: It's just now wait, it's just hitting you now. 774 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, I think they're I thought. 775 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 5: You'd already talked about this, because here's the thing. 776 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 6: All Michael Flore has to do is call a big 777 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 6: brother exactly and say, hey, man, you want to send 778 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 6: over that Melik Willis playbook here? 779 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 4: But why why send Malik to these horrible circumstances. 780 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 2: Changing money? 781 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 6: I will just say I don't think that the offense 782 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 6: itself is horrible circumstances. I think there's a lot of 783 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 6: work to do on this roster. But you've got a 784 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 6: volume best in the league tight end. You've got two 785 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 6: really solid receivers. I think they're going to look for 786 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,760 Speaker 6: a third because if I might know anything about this offense, 787 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 6: they're going to try to start with a lot of 788 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 6: eleven personnel and then reapply their thirteen personnel concepts layered 789 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 6: over that eleven. 790 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 2: Person got a good young left tackle and Johnson good. 791 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 6: Young left tackle in Paris Johnson and oh that's it. 792 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 6: And they also and I'm kicking myself for not remembering 793 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 6: the backup running backs name, but coming back from injury, 794 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,800 Speaker 6: and when those guys are healthy, they're they're. 795 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:13,360 Speaker 5: Sort of back in. 796 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 1: I think they might cut James Connor. I'm not a 797 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 1: huge trade Benson fans. I think they might. They might 798 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 1: need more there, but that's it. 799 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 2: And I hear you. I maybe want better for Malik Willis, 800 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 2: but the scheme, the talent. 801 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,800 Speaker 1: Maybe they're not winning a lot of games, but more importantly, 802 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 1: they are the team that I think could say, do 803 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,400 Speaker 1: you want a hundred million guaranteed? 804 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 2: I think we could give that to you. 805 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 6: Also, Patrick, I agree with you and what you're saying, 806 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,759 Speaker 6: I think on a broader scope, which is systemically, I 807 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,840 Speaker 6: don't think that is a great situation for anybody. However, 808 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 6: in terms of the offense itself, there are some promising 809 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 6: players there. 810 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,720 Speaker 4: Because rhyming is important. 811 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 3: Tyson Bagent's agent, he's represented by Milk and Honey Sports 812 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:57,839 Speaker 3: just okay. 813 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 1: Good to know his dad often seemed to be talking 814 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 1: to the media as well on a and off the record, 815 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 1: so you never know who could be a bagent source. 816 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 1: This is how deep we go when we go through 817 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 1: all sixteen NFC teams, with the runner up in the 818 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 1: National Football Conference the Los Angeles r So. 819 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,360 Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys remember years ago Matthew 820 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 3: Stafford was traded to the Los Angeles Rams from the 821 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 3: Detroit Lions. 822 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 4: We had two years demanding on his deal. 823 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,880 Speaker 3: At the end of this season, there is a quarterback 824 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,720 Speaker 3: who has had a lot of success in the NFL, 825 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 3: not a lot of success in the postseason, with a 826 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 3: interesting relationship with his fan base and ownership. I think 827 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 3: rain Dakota Prescott will at some point be the quarterback 828 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:43,239 Speaker 3: of the Los Angeles Rams. Question to you folks in 829 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 3: the post Stafford era, do you utilize the picks because 830 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:51,360 Speaker 3: we know those picks. Do you utilize the picks to 831 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 3: prepare for that circumstance or in a year where there's 832 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 3: not a Jalen Ramsey available in free agency, I don't 833 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 3: know if if anybody's available for a trade like Greek 834 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 3: Wooln may be available as a free agent. If that's 835 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 3: the place you want to be. If you want to 836 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 3: get bigger in the secondary, do you use that capital 837 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 3: to acquire talent, maybe move up a little bit and 838 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,799 Speaker 3: get Caleb Downs get better and bigger and faster than 839 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 3: the secondary, or. 840 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 4: Do you use it to get ready for a post staffer. 841 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 5: Who if you're keeping. 842 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 6: If you think you're going to keep Chris Shula for 843 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 6: at least another two years, I do think that you 844 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:30,240 Speaker 6: look really seriously at adding a special, special multi position 845 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 6: player as Caleb Downs is. 846 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 5: I don't think that works with every defensive coordinator. 847 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 6: I don't think that will work with every defense I 848 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 6: think there will be a lot of hubristic defensive coordinators 849 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 6: and head coaches who think that they have the right system, 850 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,920 Speaker 6: but then you end up seeing the Isaiah Simmons situation 851 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,320 Speaker 6: play out unfortunately. So this is this guy is special 852 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,280 Speaker 6: and he's a difference maker in in a math changer, 853 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,359 Speaker 6: which we know the Rams love. 854 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 2: I I think if Okay, would Dak be this year. 855 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 3: No, it would be after like you make another playoff 856 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,840 Speaker 3: run that the retirement question is there. If Matthew Sefsot's 857 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 3: to step away, you have it all night. 858 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 6: And I love that thought exercise because what you're really 859 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 6: asking is do the Rams actually for once bring in 860 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 6: a rookie quarterback, knowing that Sean McVay has never developed 861 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 6: a rookie quarterback from the ground up, or does he 862 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 6: continue to go through the veteran pool. Dak Prescott would be, 863 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,919 Speaker 6: in my opinion, a solid caring If that were the case, 864 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 6: I think there would be a likelyer. We talked about 865 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 6: through this out there for funzies, there's a bigger chance 866 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 6: that it's Joe Burrow over Dak Prescott. 867 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,399 Speaker 1: I love that we're just given now they're turning into 868 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 1: the Lakers. Let's just give all the best quarterbacks. 869 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:41,440 Speaker 2: To the Rams. 870 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 1: That's what they are, greg, But they're also among the 871 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,319 Speaker 1: biggest win now teams in the league just because they 872 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,240 Speaker 1: have a quarterback playe and you know, the rainy MVP 873 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 1: who's at the end of his career. 874 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 2: They got two picks, They got forty five million dollars 875 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:54,440 Speaker 2: in space. 876 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,400 Speaker 1: This whole you know, Sprint rebuild has all been setting 877 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,319 Speaker 1: up these two years, and man, they have a lot 878 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 1: of money to play with. But they need cornerbacks, they 879 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 1: need a linebacker, they need a third receiver, they need 880 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,319 Speaker 1: to develop some offensive lines. They do have some free 881 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 1: agents in the secondary, so they got to handle the 882 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 1: Stafford contract. 883 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,360 Speaker 2: They have a lot going on, and I knowing sneed, 884 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 2: they'll be aggressive. 885 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, cam Curl, I think it is a back or 886 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 3: a Roger McCree. The trade didn't necessarily work out. It 887 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 3: didn't even play that much when they needed him to. 888 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 3: And other than that, go out and spend in the secondary. 889 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,840 Speaker 3: And maybe if not, and if you don't do that, 890 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,320 Speaker 3: if you don't invest in the draft, prepare for the 891 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,360 Speaker 3: big swing at Joe, at Dackett, whoever it is. 892 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,839 Speaker 1: They need bodies like Kobe Durant is a free agent. 893 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 1: They could cut Darius Williams. Maybe they bring back Cam 894 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 1: Curl that they paid. 895 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,360 Speaker 5: Quentin Lake tells me they're not paying cam Curl, But 896 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:43,320 Speaker 5: that's just my opinion. 897 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 2: No, that makes sense. 898 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, you're up with the defending National Football 899 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 1: Conference and world champion and my. 900 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:53,839 Speaker 5: New favorite head coach of all time. 901 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 2: It's just like Mike McDonald. Yes, let's go see. 902 00:42:58,280 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 5: Okay. 903 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 6: So a wise thing that I heard once from a 904 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,399 Speaker 6: coach was about the concept of reaching the mountain top. 905 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 6: So after you win big time, right, he said, to 906 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,840 Speaker 6: be ready once you get to the top of the 907 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,799 Speaker 6: mountain to only be able to see more mountains right, 908 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 6: And so that being said, I think that what Mike 909 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 6: McDonald has done so far and in the week since 910 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:26,239 Speaker 6: reaching the mountaintop, besides him extremely endearing videos of him 911 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,800 Speaker 6: and his wife taking the scene of the parade in 912 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:33,399 Speaker 6: all around them last week, is adjusting where he knows 913 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 6: he has deficiencies, and one of those was hiring Daniel 914 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 6: stern Over from the Ravens. He's a situational management, game 915 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 6: management and analyst, someone who they're probably gonna put a 916 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,320 Speaker 6: position coach title on just because that comes with a 917 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,280 Speaker 6: pay bump, but will be doing. 918 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 5: Game strategy for this team. 919 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,560 Speaker 6: That is where you could argue they did have some 920 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 6: faults and flaws last season. He also hired Brian Fleury 921 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 6: from San Francisco, the tight ends coach now is his 922 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 6: OC to me that speaks volumes about wanting to continue 923 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 6: to evolve the run game forward, which is going to 924 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 6: be interesting because Kenneth Walker looks like he will be 925 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,400 Speaker 6: posed to be a free agent. There's been some reporting 926 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,719 Speaker 6: that they are not planning to tag him, and they 927 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,800 Speaker 6: have a lot of really solidar I know, like immediately 928 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 6: we did they Also, they have a lot of solid 929 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,400 Speaker 6: free agents available. So Riek Wullen is going to be 930 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 6: a free agent, Boy in Mafe is going to be 931 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,160 Speaker 6: a free agent. Rashichihid you mentioned previously, is going to 932 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,880 Speaker 6: be a free agent. Kobe Bryant the safety is going 933 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 6: to be a free agent, Josh Job is going to 934 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,120 Speaker 6: be a free agent. 935 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:33,759 Speaker 2: Like this, this is. 936 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 6: This is a significant amount of players in their secondary 937 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 6: And like Nicki min worri play seven positions, but he 938 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:41,920 Speaker 6: can't play them all at once. So you really need 939 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 6: to pick and choose who you're going to invest in 940 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 6: this offseason if you're the Seahawks, and I would expect 941 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 6: a couple of these guys are extended internally at the 942 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:50,880 Speaker 6: very least I. 943 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,760 Speaker 1: Had the guests, I think Kobe Bryant and Josh Job 944 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,960 Speaker 1: would be my guess. I guess Kobe Bryant good safety 945 00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,800 Speaker 1: young the safety market doesn't it just always is. 946 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,040 Speaker 2: Then you think, so you can have. 947 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,719 Speaker 1: Some community at Job don't play great for them, and 948 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 1: so he's not going to cost as much as three 949 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,479 Speaker 1: quillan and so I think I think that makes sense. 950 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,440 Speaker 2: But man, that's a that's a lot of. 951 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,880 Speaker 1: Good players that are getting a free agency, but I 952 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,239 Speaker 1: mentioned the Chargers and the AFC as the best team 953 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,720 Speaker 1: with a lot of cap space that was in the AFC. 954 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,400 Speaker 1: The Seahawks have seventy three million dollars in cap space, 955 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 1: and so they're in a great position. 956 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, in a position to run it back, like I 957 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,759 Speaker 3: can make a case just bring them all back, like 958 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 3: you got seventy three million dollars to make it work. 959 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,879 Speaker 1: I think for Reek, I think his market, I could 960 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,960 Speaker 1: be wrong, will be big enough. And I do think 961 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,799 Speaker 1: about like asking Clint Kubiak about how ken Walker never 962 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,719 Speaker 1: ran the plays as as called as like a knowing lad. Yeah, 963 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 1: I hate it for ken Walker in a way, but 964 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,440 Speaker 1: I love that he'll max out his money. I think 965 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 1: they think they'll just get someone that they drafted. I 966 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,440 Speaker 1: know John Schneider drafted him, but like this coaching staff, 967 00:45:58,480 --> 00:45:59,880 Speaker 1: and I think they're going to replace him. 968 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:01,279 Speaker 5: It is interesting to me. 969 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,399 Speaker 2: You gotta pay Sam Darnel Moore money, by the way too. 970 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,360 Speaker 6: Through through either bad reasons or good reasons. In this 971 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 6: case good reasons. This is their third offensive coordinator in 972 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:09,800 Speaker 6: three seasons. 973 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 5: Interesting. 974 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 1: The forty nine Ers is my team, and they're in 975 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 1: a really interesting spot similar to the Rams where they 976 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:25,400 Speaker 1: went through a little short term pain Nick. They're kind 977 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,360 Speaker 1: of out of the woods, and do they want to 978 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,799 Speaker 1: take a little pain right back? Because they got forty 979 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 1: one million dollars in cap space and they do have 980 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 1: these guys with huge contracts Warner and Nick Bosa, who 981 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,480 Speaker 1: would be on my really long list of like would 982 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,160 Speaker 1: they ever think about trading Nick Bosa? 983 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,920 Speaker 6: Every time I suggest it or even like yeah, sideways 984 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 6: suggest it, I get so many mess like anger, pure 985 00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 6: anger for a forty nine ers. 986 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:52,800 Speaker 1: I don't think they would ever trade. Maybe that's not 987 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:57,239 Speaker 1: what they're anger George Kittle or Warner, they they can 988 00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,839 Speaker 1: go be aggressive. They're they're very much in when now. 989 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:01,880 Speaker 1: It's why I don't think they'll trade mac Jones in 990 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,279 Speaker 1: the end unless they get Mac Joes like a second plus, 991 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 1: because it's just like why why bother? We'll get a 992 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 1: compick for him, and and why bother? Juwan Jennings is 993 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,399 Speaker 1: a free agent but not a ton. It's the same 994 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,359 Speaker 1: old stuff I look at every off season with them, 995 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 1: is like their offensive line does not look great on paper, 996 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,520 Speaker 1: and yet they they just kick the can and they 997 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 1: make it work. But if you're the forty nine ers. 998 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 1: I'll throw this to you, Patrick, like, where are you looking? 999 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,759 Speaker 1: Because actually, like don't see a ton of crazy like 1000 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,200 Speaker 1: screaming problems or needs. 1001 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:35,040 Speaker 2: They're in a good spot. 1002 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:35,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1003 00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,560 Speaker 3: I think they can add depth at a few places, 1004 00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:43,000 Speaker 3: especially on defense where you know, we talked about Bobby Wagner, 1005 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,440 Speaker 3: you know, being able to have Bobby and for it 1006 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:46,640 Speaker 3: on the same team. 1007 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,759 Speaker 1: I think, oh wow, trun through Now that I think 1008 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,759 Speaker 1: about it, You're right, Like line, the defensive line other 1009 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:54,719 Speaker 1: than Nick Bosa is a big need. 1010 00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, And so like having that capacity where they can 1011 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,759 Speaker 3: spend with now you know, a new group, you know, 1012 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,440 Speaker 3: organizing the defense, I think they should and take advantage 1013 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,759 Speaker 3: of that where you know it's it's Kyle on the 1014 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:08,319 Speaker 3: other side. 1015 00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, but they bring I could absolutely see Debo coming 1016 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,760 Speaker 1: back on like a two year, twelve million dollar contract 1017 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,360 Speaker 1: because he doesn't have a market elsewhere. 1018 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,359 Speaker 6: It's interesting Raheem Morris is the defensive coordinator over there now. 1019 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 6: So again everything just cycles through in different versions of 1020 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,719 Speaker 6: itself through the throughout the entire NFC West. 1021 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,480 Speaker 2: At this point, kayden ellis maybe from the Falcons. 1022 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,919 Speaker 6: It is interesting because I also think that just knowing 1023 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,480 Speaker 6: Raheem's background a little bit like they are going to 1024 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,279 Speaker 6: want to add some more size at dB, specifically the 1025 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,200 Speaker 6: way that they're going to want to play their safeties, 1026 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,680 Speaker 6: their slot position. It's going to be aggressive, it's going 1027 00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 6: to be versatile. They are definitely going to want to 1028 00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:45,080 Speaker 6: add something. 1029 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 3: Now I'm imagining a situation where multiple aspects of the 1030 00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,880 Speaker 3: tree are interested in Reek now in the division. 1031 00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:53,360 Speaker 4: That's going to drop the price up to where the 1032 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:54,239 Speaker 4: Seahawks won't be right. 1033 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,640 Speaker 1: It really just takes two teams. Like that's why God 1034 00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:01,360 Speaker 1: will say the tree, it's the te It really is 1035 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,600 Speaker 1: a tree at this point. And and Raheem's been in 1036 00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,880 Speaker 1: so many spots I immediately thought about like maybe reconnects 1037 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,000 Speaker 1: on a final like let's go chase another ring. Jalen 1038 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,000 Speaker 1: Ramsey contract which he potentially gets cut is the. 1039 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:14,759 Speaker 5: Jalen Ramsey Whisperer. I will say that. 1040 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:17,799 Speaker 2: I like this forty nine ers team. 1041 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:19,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I think they're going to be a trendy 1042 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,560 Speaker 1: team of like, Okay, this is the year that they 1043 00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:25,800 Speaker 1: break through. Next year just for people like me, Patrick, 1044 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,920 Speaker 1: you are up with the Atlanta Falcons. We are entering 1045 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:33,719 Speaker 1: the Dirty South, the final division that we're going to 1046 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:34,319 Speaker 1: be covering, and. 1047 00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,080 Speaker 3: It starts with an apology I yield with regards to 1048 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,239 Speaker 3: my thoughts about Terry farn But there are a lot 1049 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:41,520 Speaker 3: of talented players on this. 1050 00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,080 Speaker 4: Team where you know they have some, you know, some 1051 00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 4: free agents to sign. 1052 00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,440 Speaker 3: I think one aspect that will alleviate and provide them 1053 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,920 Speaker 3: with more capacity to acquire talent would be a trade. 1054 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,239 Speaker 3: If the Minnesota Vikings are interested in a quarterback coming 1055 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,040 Speaker 3: off of a torn achilles, I can offer you one 1056 00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,319 Speaker 3: that's coming off a couple of years now removed from 1057 00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:05,440 Speaker 3: a torn achilles, where Kirk Cousins could create some opportunity 1058 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,920 Speaker 3: to where there's not that much of a question with 1059 00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:14,319 Speaker 3: regards to Kyle Pitts, you know David Anyamata as well, 1060 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,520 Speaker 3: where you know there's places where you can retain talent 1061 00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,880 Speaker 3: here and have a team that can be successful. But 1062 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,840 Speaker 3: at eight and nine, there's three other teams in this 1063 00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,359 Speaker 3: division that we'll have a chance to talk about where 1064 00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,359 Speaker 3: you're kind of in this middle spot where everybody can 1065 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:35,520 Speaker 3: legitimately be win now, But can they be win now 1066 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:39,279 Speaker 3: with Pinnix coming off the injury or this version of 1067 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:39,960 Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins. 1068 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,040 Speaker 1: I don't Yeah, because Yill to you guys, the reporting 1069 00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:44,920 Speaker 1: his cousins is just going to get cut that they 1070 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,320 Speaker 1: restructured his contract in a way to cut them and 1071 00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,440 Speaker 1: save the most amount of money this season for him. 1072 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,560 Speaker 2: They do have a decent amount of cap space. They're 1073 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:54,080 Speaker 2: in the middle. 1074 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:58,280 Speaker 1: It's president Matt Ryan and you mentioned, yeah, I'm curious 1075 00:50:58,280 --> 00:50:59,319 Speaker 1: if they're going to tag pits. 1076 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,279 Speaker 2: My guess would be they probably will, but. 1077 00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:05,239 Speaker 1: A lot of a team where I think there's a 1078 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,040 Speaker 1: lot of places to upgrade, but they don't have huge 1079 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:12,000 Speaker 1: gaping holes like defensive tackle, wide receiver, offensive line, cornerback. 1080 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:13,440 Speaker 1: I think they can improve in a lot of spots, 1081 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,360 Speaker 1: but I think the roster to defend your guy Terry, 1082 00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,160 Speaker 1: it's in a very eight and nine type of place. 1083 00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,960 Speaker 1: That's where they've been and I don't I think it's 1084 00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:23,960 Speaker 1: not a rebuild they had. 1085 00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,680 Speaker 6: I'm trying to remember how early in the season this was, 1086 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,200 Speaker 6: but they had the multiple injuries at tackle two that 1087 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,879 Speaker 6: I think really affected the way that that offensive line 1088 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:38,040 Speaker 6: ended up playing certainly, and it's interesting to me one 1089 00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,440 Speaker 6: of the biggest things that they did this offseason was 1090 00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,440 Speaker 6: not moving on from somebody, and that's Jeff Ulbrich because 1091 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,680 Speaker 6: I think that that defense is going to pick up 1092 00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:47,520 Speaker 6: be able to pick up right where it left off. 1093 00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,879 Speaker 6: Now what I am interested in seeing Kevin Stefanski talked 1094 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:54,560 Speaker 6: up Michael Pennix a lot in his opening press conference. 1095 00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,200 Speaker 6: I just I really want to see what it is 1096 00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:02,160 Speaker 6: about Kevin Stefanski. I really like I get the theories right, 1097 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,360 Speaker 6: I understand the background and the beer and the lineage 1098 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,279 Speaker 6: is there obviously of the coaching trees that he's been. 1099 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:09,920 Speaker 5: A part of, But like, I would really just like 1100 00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,080 Speaker 5: to see what it is about him. 1101 00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,120 Speaker 1: Would he want Jakobe There's so many teams in this 1102 00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,759 Speaker 1: weird in between for quarterbacks where they kind of don't 1103 00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,439 Speaker 1: have one for a while. The Colts too, they don't 1104 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,279 Speaker 1: have a first round pick. The Vikings are kind of 1105 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,360 Speaker 1: like that, they have one, but not really. 1106 00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:26,200 Speaker 2: Well they go for it. 1107 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:31,520 Speaker 3: If I see Michael Pennix in some version in Kevin 1108 00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,799 Speaker 3: Stefanski's offense utilized in the middle of the field, then 1109 00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,680 Speaker 3: that's it, and I will retract my apology and we'll 1110 00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:40,240 Speaker 3: be a full on revision of history regarding the Atlanta 1111 00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,000 Speaker 3: Falcons the Tampa Bay You just. 1112 00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,440 Speaker 5: Wait till I start using the middle of the field 1113 00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:47,440 Speaker 5: and it's over for you. Oos. 1114 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,000 Speaker 1: It's a tough situation for Penix because he could use 1115 00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,800 Speaker 1: the off season with the fan ski and he's not 1116 00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:54,480 Speaker 1: gonna have that. 1117 00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,000 Speaker 2: Let's do Carolina, George. 1118 00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,520 Speaker 5: Oh, I'm so happy you gave me the Carolina Panthers. 1119 00:52:59,600 --> 00:52:59,799 Speaker 2: Gregg. 1120 00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:01,480 Speaker 5: It's team very near dear to my heart. 1121 00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:05,800 Speaker 6: The biggest news of the week, perhaps the off season overall, 1122 00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,759 Speaker 6: came out of Carolina just a few days ago, and 1123 00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:13,839 Speaker 6: that is long snapper J. J. Janssen signed another one 1124 00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:18,080 Speaker 6: year contract Buck Buddy to play his eighteenth NFL season. 1125 00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,600 Speaker 6: Friend of the Show, he holds us off just a 1126 00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,960 Speaker 6: little bit longer, Greg. My plot to get him on 1127 00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,320 Speaker 6: the desk with us just has to wait for one 1128 00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,440 Speaker 6: more year. But the biggest editions for this team have 1129 00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,319 Speaker 6: to come by drafting really well in my opinion, at 1130 00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:38,720 Speaker 6: pass rusher, specifically infusing talent not just on the outside edges, 1131 00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:42,320 Speaker 6: but also to get that interior moving the line of 1132 00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,440 Speaker 6: scrimmage a little bit more. They have some you know, 1133 00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,520 Speaker 6: Derek Brown's obviously playing at such a high level, but 1134 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,759 Speaker 6: they need to start replacing some of the guys that 1135 00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:51,600 Speaker 6: they went out and. 1136 00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:55,600 Speaker 5: Spent money on. Ashawn Robinson, Bobby Brown the third. 1137 00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,080 Speaker 6: While it is his prerogative, they eventually think about what 1138 00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,840 Speaker 6: draft picks at those positions to supplement and kind of replace. 1139 00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,279 Speaker 6: Long term, those guys are going to look like and 1140 00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,520 Speaker 6: I think that's the biggest thing. They need to upgrade 1141 00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,840 Speaker 6: their inside linebackers as well. They need to upgrade at safety. 1142 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:12,560 Speaker 6: Nick Scott is a free agent. He played well at 1143 00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,600 Speaker 6: the end of the season, but their outside corners kind 1144 00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,600 Speaker 6: of rock, so I say, don't touch anything there. And 1145 00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:20,840 Speaker 6: on the other side of the ball, they need to 1146 00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:24,440 Speaker 6: keep building layers around specifically Ted McMillan and Jalen Coker. 1147 00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:26,600 Speaker 6: I don't think a lot else in this past game 1148 00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:31,680 Speaker 6: is working, so building layers and different problem solving around 1149 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:35,320 Speaker 6: those two key players in your passing game is really important. 1150 00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:36,840 Speaker 6: I'd like to see them get more production out of 1151 00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,239 Speaker 6: the tight end position. And I think their offensive line 1152 00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,400 Speaker 6: is fine. Caid Mays is a free agent. I think 1153 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,680 Speaker 6: you need to extend him, keep him at center. Let 1154 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,120 Speaker 6: Austin Corbett keep playing at guard now that he's healthy, 1155 00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,200 Speaker 6: and that's my off season plan for the Carolina Panthers. 1156 00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:51,520 Speaker 1: I'm a little worried about their team build because the 1157 00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,120 Speaker 1: offensive line is where all the so much money is 1158 00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,920 Speaker 1: and they didn't really play very well and ikey ikwanmu 1159 00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,400 Speaker 1: is coming off a ruptured but Tel attendant Kaid mays, 1160 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,120 Speaker 1: I think it's going to get a big contract, whether 1161 00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,520 Speaker 1: it's from Panthers or another team. 1162 00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:07,960 Speaker 2: It sounds like he's going to have a market. 1163 00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:12,640 Speaker 1: And if the Falcons have an eight to nine roster, 1164 00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,640 Speaker 1: I think the Bucks are better than that, even though 1165 00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,480 Speaker 1: they were eight and nine. And I think the Panthers 1166 00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,920 Speaker 1: are worse than their eight nine record because I think 1167 00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,560 Speaker 1: they need everything except for those outside corners. 1168 00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:25,400 Speaker 2: And that long snapper. 1169 00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:28,320 Speaker 1: Shout out to uh shout out to the Blue Sky user, 1170 00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:31,960 Speaker 1: I think it's Brad Beats And who who said is that? 1171 00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,320 Speaker 2: Was that NFL Daily z own J Yes, I love it. 1172 00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:39,000 Speaker 5: I love it, amazing, amazing friend of the show. 1173 00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,080 Speaker 1: Not many free agents though, Rico Daddo's out there, Austin 1174 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,920 Speaker 1: Corbet's out there, Kid Maze, as I mentioned, they got 1175 00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:46,879 Speaker 1: to pick up Brace's option, but not at least they're 1176 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,520 Speaker 1: they said they're additive right now, but I do think 1177 00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:51,160 Speaker 1: they need a lot. 1178 00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,040 Speaker 2: I think they're early in their builds. 1179 00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,919 Speaker 6: Still rout yeah, and I think I mean we we've 1180 00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,480 Speaker 6: talked about this for a couple of months now, like 1181 00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:04,640 Speaker 6: this is sifting through kind of the like freak happy 1182 00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:06,640 Speaker 6: luck that happens at the end of the season. And 1183 00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,399 Speaker 6: I'm not saying they didn't earn it. They played really well, 1184 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:13,360 Speaker 6: they met their moment incredibly well in the playoffs. But 1185 00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,600 Speaker 6: you also need to sift through, like, Okay, what actually 1186 00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:20,160 Speaker 6: is sustainable out of this? And that very much is 1187 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:21,640 Speaker 6: the process that they're going through right now. 1188 00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:25,400 Speaker 1: All right, it is time now, finally for delivering results. 1189 00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:29,280 Speaker 1: It's presented by Uber Eats. When football makes you hungry, 1190 00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:33,080 Speaker 1: you order some Uber Eats. And who else would be 1191 00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:38,319 Speaker 1: delivering but Mickey Loomis and the New Orleans Saints get 1192 00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:42,400 Speaker 1: ready for a big off season. It's Mickey gone wild. 1193 00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:48,320 Speaker 1: Marty grod just ended. You got Drew Brees throwing beads 1194 00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:51,720 Speaker 1: with his left arm for some reason. Mickey's feeling himself. 1195 00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:55,000 Speaker 1: He's got a quarterback, he's got Jeff Duncan of the Times, 1196 00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:59,080 Speaker 1: Picky un running, Hey, aren't you sorry? Now look at 1197 00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,840 Speaker 1: what Mickey did last year, Colin, which maybe is a 1198 00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,840 Speaker 1: little premature. They feel like they have a lot of 1199 00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:06,960 Speaker 1: cap space just because they're not in cap hell but 1200 00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,120 Speaker 1: they are still twenty seventh in cap space. But they 1201 00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,040 Speaker 1: can create a lot, and I think they have a 1202 00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,160 Speaker 1: lot of problems on their roster. Who is their best 1203 00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:17,600 Speaker 1: defensive lineman under contract? Probably Brian Bressi, who's like a 1204 00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,280 Speaker 1: splash but not a complete player. 1205 00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:22,720 Speaker 2: They have only a couple more of them. 1206 00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,800 Speaker 1: They have fifty one million dollars in dead money into 1207 00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:29,880 Speaker 1: Mario Davis, Taysom Hill, and Cam Jordan, who probably all 1208 00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:31,440 Speaker 1: won't be on the team, but we'll see. Actually to 1209 00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:33,760 Speaker 1: Mario Davis and Cam Jordan could be, I don't know, 1210 00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,800 Speaker 1: but either way, they're gonna have dead money. They maybe 1211 00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,160 Speaker 1: are looking at Olave a contract, but I do get 1212 00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:40,680 Speaker 1: the feeling, don't you, Patrick, that. 1213 00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:43,520 Speaker 2: They're gonna push. 1214 00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,520 Speaker 1: They got their rookie on a contract, and I think 1215 00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:48,800 Speaker 1: Mickey's ready to be like Mickey's back, we can go 1216 00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:49,560 Speaker 1: win this division. 1217 00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:49,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1218 00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:55,120 Speaker 3: They obviously they come close to winning division last year 1219 00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:58,640 Speaker 3: with the late surge. Where you know, are you know 1220 00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,240 Speaker 3: not just in the apology to Mickey specifically. 1221 00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:05,600 Speaker 2: You know, I am not apologizing for what it's worth? 1222 00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:08,480 Speaker 4: All right, Well I will. 1223 00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:11,840 Speaker 5: Jeff Duncan's fine featured in a movie. 1224 00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,720 Speaker 2: Well it was, yeah, yeah, no, it didn't. But I 1225 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:17,400 Speaker 2: also don't have a subscription. 1226 00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:21,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, but in general, you know, evaluating Tyler Shuck uh 1227 00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:25,680 Speaker 3: and being a significant oversight that he was recovering from 1228 00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:26,160 Speaker 3: the injury. 1229 00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:29,880 Speaker 4: Uh, you know, lost sight of how explosive he was 1230 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:33,520 Speaker 4: and he's still he still have that was able to 1231 00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:35,120 Speaker 4: navigate that rookie season healthily. 1232 00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:37,600 Speaker 3: I think a lot of teams probably disappointed in that 1233 00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:41,000 Speaker 3: because the guy's like Alonte Taylor will not be available. 1234 00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,760 Speaker 3: I think you know, the cap sure cannery one minute, 1235 00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:50,000 Speaker 3: you know, have Alante back. There's places, there's places where 1236 00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:50,920 Speaker 3: they can be successful. 1237 00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,840 Speaker 2: I think graduation, I think Alante might max out elsewhere. 1238 00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:55,920 Speaker 2: We'll see. I don't know. 1239 00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,080 Speaker 1: I wouldn't surprise me if he got a pretty good contract. 1240 00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,320 Speaker 1: Luke Fortner, the guy that they like that played center, 1241 00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:05,160 Speaker 1: Eric McCoy's never healthy. A normal team would maybe consider 1242 00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:07,640 Speaker 1: cutting Eric McCoy, who's been a great player for them 1243 00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:09,880 Speaker 1: when he's played, but he just literally hasn't been available 1244 00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:13,240 Speaker 1: for like three years, and they needed some defensive tackles, 1245 00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:14,200 Speaker 1: They need cornerbacks. 1246 00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:15,080 Speaker 2: I think the roster. 1247 00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:17,680 Speaker 1: I keep saying where their record is, what did they 1248 00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,240 Speaker 1: actually how many games did they win last year six 1249 00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:23,880 Speaker 1: in the end or seven. I think that's about right. 1250 00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,520 Speaker 1: They were about a six win roster. They are not there, 1251 00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:29,120 Speaker 1: I think with the Falcons and Bucks roster wise. 1252 00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, they are obviously rebuilding. 1253 00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:35,360 Speaker 6: I think they're they're thanking, you know, they're lucky stars 1254 00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:39,040 Speaker 6: that the quarterback situation looks like it's promising for the future, 1255 00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,440 Speaker 6: because can you imagine if that didn't work out, then 1256 00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:45,640 Speaker 6: rebuild would go from hey, this is a year maybe 1257 00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,320 Speaker 6: two year rebuild to even get to medium. 1258 00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:53,960 Speaker 2: It gives it changes Tyler Shuck's season changes the entire. 1259 00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:57,080 Speaker 6: Organ and did you see him just like just like 1260 00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:01,640 Speaker 6: rocketing Marty Graf favers off of afloat like. 1261 01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:03,800 Speaker 5: Rest the arm. 1262 01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,840 Speaker 2: I do love the how much he's embraced being a 1263 01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:08,640 Speaker 2: New Orleans. 1264 01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:10,960 Speaker 3: Could use that big arm to target one of the 1265 01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:13,240 Speaker 3: best deep threats in the league who also is explosive 1266 01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:15,240 Speaker 3: for the as a punt returner. Fortunately, they have a 1267 01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:20,400 Speaker 3: fourth round and a fifth round pick thanks to the 1268 01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:21,560 Speaker 3: Shah Heat trade, so there's that. 1269 01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:24,600 Speaker 1: Well he yeah, he will be a free agent. You 1270 01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:27,000 Speaker 1: could always, Hey, do the movie you sign him back? 1271 01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:29,919 Speaker 1: That would be that'ld be a great move. I would 1272 01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:31,080 Speaker 1: apologize to Mickey. 1273 01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:32,120 Speaker 2: For that, I would too. 1274 01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:35,080 Speaker 1: If he gets Rashid to heat back, that would be outstanding. 1275 01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:38,200 Speaker 1: That was delivering results presented by Uber Eats. When football 1276 01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:41,480 Speaker 1: makes you hungry, get game day deals on uber eats, 1277 01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:44,440 Speaker 1: the official on demand delivery partner of the NFL. 1278 01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:45,200 Speaker 6: Order. 1279 01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:49,080 Speaker 1: Now we have reached the end of the road with 1280 01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:52,640 Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, a team that I said is 1281 01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:56,920 Speaker 1: a better roster than their eight and nine record indicated 1282 01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:01,720 Speaker 1: a lot of consternation among you are a nation. Do 1283 01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:03,880 Speaker 1: they call themselves in that? I don't think so, but 1284 01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:07,080 Speaker 1: they should the Bucks with Patrick Yes. 1285 01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:10,480 Speaker 3: I think it is very important to bring Mike Evans back. 1286 01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:12,840 Speaker 3: I know that there's only fourteen million dollars in cap space. 1287 01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:15,040 Speaker 3: One way to do that would be to extend one 1288 01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:17,200 Speaker 3: of the highest played players on the team, which would 1289 01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:18,520 Speaker 3: be Baker Mayfield. 1290 01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:20,800 Speaker 4: So that is my question. 1291 01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:22,840 Speaker 3: Can you solve some of the off season problems where 1292 01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:26,440 Speaker 3: Jammel Dean needs to be resigned again in a situation 1293 01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:28,600 Speaker 3: where a lot of people need to have a need 1294 01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:30,440 Speaker 3: at corner Jamel Deane one of the better corners in 1295 01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:31,600 Speaker 3: the league, do you. 1296 01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:32,200 Speaker 4: Solve all that? 1297 01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:35,640 Speaker 3: Would you guys be comfortable extending Baker Mayfield right now, 1298 01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:37,720 Speaker 3: Oh well, oh. 1299 01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:40,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would let me in a bad spot. 1300 01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:41,600 Speaker 5: Well, you hate him, but like. 1301 01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:43,120 Speaker 2: I don't hate him, but I don't think you need 1302 01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:44,960 Speaker 2: to I don't think you need to extend him right now. 1303 01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:47,600 Speaker 6: I think that if it's if it's also you're talking 1304 01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:49,439 Speaker 6: about cap savings and you think you've got a roster 1305 01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:52,040 Speaker 6: that and you're Todd Bowles, who's like, yeah, maybe running 1306 01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:55,440 Speaker 6: out of chances at this point, like another offensive coordinator, 1307 01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:58,880 Speaker 6: new offensive coordinator, you think that you've got an offense, 1308 01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:02,880 Speaker 6: especially with Chris when coming back from a brutal, gruesome injury, 1309 01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:06,080 Speaker 6: probably gonna look a lot more like himself year two, 1310 01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,160 Speaker 6: coming off of that injury than in year one. 1311 01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:10,440 Speaker 5: You got a really really you. 1312 01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:12,520 Speaker 6: Got good pieces every you got a great offensive line 1313 01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:16,360 Speaker 6: when healthy. I mean health really was a huge factor 1314 01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:19,080 Speaker 6: and a lot of their issues this year. And I 1315 01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:21,840 Speaker 6: think too they wanted they just didn't quite get what 1316 01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:26,200 Speaker 6: they needed just cohesively from that offensive system system overall. 1317 01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:28,280 Speaker 6: And I think that this is going to be really 1318 01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:31,520 Speaker 6: interesting to me because you are kind of saying, hey, 1319 01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:34,240 Speaker 6: we want to bring our guys back. Jason light loves 1320 01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:36,920 Speaker 6: to do that, and this could be a way to 1321 01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:39,720 Speaker 6: do it, extending Baker Mayfield, who would have I think, 1322 01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:43,640 Speaker 6: I mean, can you guys imagine this if he if 1323 01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:46,440 Speaker 6: they don't, and like everything goes terrible and all the 1324 01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:50,000 Speaker 6: suitors Baker Mayfield would have this offseason next. 1325 01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:53,280 Speaker 2: Time if he doesn't play, you know, if if he 1326 01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:53,840 Speaker 2: if they. 1327 01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:57,160 Speaker 6: Greg I'm serious, I don't think anyone will care. I 1328 01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,000 Speaker 6: think he is the ultimate. I can fix some guy 1329 01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:00,240 Speaker 6: that all the. 1330 01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:03,160 Speaker 5: Baker you want to talk about, the tree, the tree 1331 01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,040 Speaker 5: would be knocking down their. 1332 01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:06,919 Speaker 1: Door to try to it does feel like a little 1333 01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:10,520 Speaker 1: bit of a last chance saloon for Todd Bowles and 1334 01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,400 Speaker 1: maybe for not for Baker. But I think play it 1335 01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,160 Speaker 1: out because I think the level that he played at 1336 01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:18,360 Speaker 1: last year, you don't need to rush it. But they 1337 01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:21,400 Speaker 1: have you mentioned like Evans Dean Hassan Redick is a 1338 01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:24,040 Speaker 1: free agent, aid Aten is a very good tight end 1339 01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:27,720 Speaker 1: for them, Rashad White is a good player. Levante David 1340 01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:31,880 Speaker 1: might retire. So they also feel great about exactly three 1341 01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:34,320 Speaker 1: offensive line spots. But literally don't have a guard on 1342 01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:36,560 Speaker 1: the roster next year, so that could be a position 1343 01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:40,360 Speaker 1: I could see them spending in free agency. So maybe 1344 01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:42,320 Speaker 1: the roster doesn't look as pristine as it did a 1345 01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:42,680 Speaker 1: year ago. 1346 01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:44,200 Speaker 4: At this time it looks a lot better. 1347 01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:44,360 Speaker 6: Greg. 1348 01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:46,120 Speaker 4: They extend Baker, they get some money. 1349 01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:48,360 Speaker 2: I mean, how much does that really open up? But 1350 01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:48,880 Speaker 2: a little bit. 1351 01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,120 Speaker 4: You could go from fifteen We literally. 1352 01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:56,200 Speaker 6: Just talked podcast about how much money. As Patrick Mahomes 1353 01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:56,960 Speaker 6: has showed. 1354 01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:00,520 Speaker 2: That's what the restructure. You actually could restructure Baker too, 1355 01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:03,440 Speaker 2: but he might and I'm sure. 1356 01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:09,080 Speaker 5: And you know what helps you with restructures extensions more years. 1357 01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:13,919 Speaker 1: He has three void years coming twenty seven through twenty nine. Listen, Yeah, 1358 01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,120 Speaker 1: he is essentially entering a contract year. 1359 01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:18,400 Speaker 5: Very interesting. 1360 01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,280 Speaker 2: The stakes I think they're kicking that can. 1361 01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:23,040 Speaker 6: You know? 1362 01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:24,000 Speaker 5: Very interesting? 1363 01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:26,560 Speaker 2: He might have wandering eyes. We never would Oh this 1364 01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:28,840 Speaker 2: trio did it? 1365 01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:35,240 Speaker 1: We hit all thirty two teams over two shows, AFC, NFC. 1366 01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:38,240 Speaker 2: Most podcasts would take the rest of the week off. 1367 01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:40,080 Speaker 4: Not us, not Dogan. 1368 01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:43,760 Speaker 1: We are cranking some quality content this week, the second 1369 01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:46,320 Speaker 1: week after the end of the Super Bowl with all 1370 01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:50,960 Speaker 1: these teams and then the exclusive reveal for the top 1371 01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:54,000 Speaker 1: one oh one. Olly Connelly would be joining me in 1372 01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:58,800 Speaker 1: his week appearance for that show and then off to Indianapolis. 1373 01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:02,160 Speaker 5: Yes, I'll see you there, Greg, We will. 1374 01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:06,760 Speaker 1: See there a couple of big gms already signed up. 1375 01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,040 Speaker 1: We're gonna try to get some more. We're gonna figure 1376 01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:12,000 Speaker 1: everything out. The off season will be decided. It's regular 1377 01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:12,800 Speaker 1: scene next