Speaker 1: Hey everyone, Hi guys.
Speaker 2: I'm Jackie Goldschneider, I'm Jensler, and we're two Jersey Jays. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we have a really really great episode today. You know
Speaker 2: what I was thinking. You know, first of all, when
Speaker 2: I said that, Evan always jokes whenever a show starts
Speaker 2: and they're like, we have a really great episode today,
Speaker 2: He's like, what are they going to say?
Speaker 1: I suppose we'll be fun you guys, tune out, turn
Speaker 1: turn your radio.
Speaker 2: No, But it actually is a great one today because
Speaker 2: I was thinking, like you know, when you have like
Speaker 2: you you wake up and you have this idea and
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, I really want to do this, and
Speaker 2: then like an hour later you're like, nah, too much effort. Yes,
Speaker 2: our guest today wakes up and oh my god, every
Speaker 2: single thing you can imagine doing she has done. I
Speaker 2: absolutely agree, and I'm I definitely forget the Oh my god,
Speaker 2: I should do this, And three minutes in on my
Speaker 2: a You're like, no, because that'll take a lot of
Speaker 2: aff Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, she is especially acquire shower exactly. But this woman,
Speaker 1: as you guys probably know, is a go getter for sure. Right,
Speaker 1: So today we have yes on the pad. Then again, Jack,
Speaker 1: I don't think we gave it enough of a bang.
Speaker 2: Right, Today we have Maria Manuno's yeah, baby, yeah she
Speaker 2: is well, first of all, she's like the most stunning
Speaker 2: woman in the world. I always thought of her as
Speaker 2: just like a celebrity correspondent, right right, Yeah, So when
Speaker 2: I sat down to just like look at her bio,
Speaker 2: oh my god, Like there is nothing that she hasn't done,
Speaker 2: literally because she got.
Speaker 1: When you hear the name, it's like you can't even
Speaker 1: like pinpoint though. One thing, she's just been a present.
Speaker 1: When she's younger, well she's your age, right, she's a
Speaker 1: little younger than me. But like I always picture her
Speaker 1: from and I maybe I mean, you know, I know
Speaker 1: Access Hollywood like all of those et and I know
Speaker 1: she didn't do all those not tamous Knight and whatever.
Speaker 1: I just always picture her.
Speaker 2: I picture her also as the panteine girl, yes, like
Speaker 2: I know that with that unbelievable hair.
Speaker 1: Yes, But she has been everything.
Speaker 2: So she's been obviously a TV host, she was on
Speaker 2: Access Hollywood, E Extra, she was an actress, she was
Speaker 2: an actress, still an actress. She uh was a wrestler.
Speaker 1: I don't even know, like we have to ask her
Speaker 1: a little bit about that, but like kind of a
Speaker 1: I can't even if you picture her in a ring, No.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know exactly in what capacity she
Speaker 2: has to start as a WWE, but I know.
Speaker 1: That she actually I know that she actually like fought
Speaker 1: Oh really, yeah.
Speaker 2: I hope I'm not off there.
Speaker 1: I don't know that, but I'm pretty right. Yes, I
Speaker 1: am pretty sure she produced a movie.
Speaker 2: I know that. Yeah, I know that she has won
Speaker 2: beauty pageant, right, She's had a radio show, a podcast,
Speaker 2: a reality show chasing Mariam Minuno right right there, like
Speaker 2: literally there's been and she started early, like she started
Speaker 2: in childhood. So I'm really excited to talk to her
Speaker 2: because I only know this like little bit of fame
Speaker 2: as an adult, fully formed result, so I could make
Speaker 2: rational decisions.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine starting so young. Yeah, and she's been
Speaker 1: through it, you guys. I mean, I don't know listeners
Speaker 1: what you know, but she is. She's battled, she had
Speaker 1: she's had several battles with her family having cancer, her
Speaker 1: mom had a brain tumor, her actually her dad had
Speaker 1: had Type one diabetes, which is what.
Speaker 2: My daughter has.
Speaker 1: So I'm excited to kind of talk to her about that.
Speaker 1: And now she's in her own battle with pancreatic cancer,
Speaker 1: so you know she's been through it, and she has
Speaker 1: a baby. She has a baby, and she has a
Speaker 1: new movie. Yes on it's on Lifetime. M Yeah, yes
Speaker 1: it is hill manor yeah, I can't imagine. No, I
Speaker 1: feel very inadequate segment.
Speaker 2: She's very open about her health battle. Yeah, so we'll
Speaker 2: talk about everything. Really excited to have her on. So
Speaker 2: let's welcome Maria Minutos. Hi. Guys, Hi, Maria. You're just
Speaker 2: as beautiful as I was to say.
Speaker 3: It's like, thank you. I was hoping my my crazy
Speaker 3: sunlight was gonna shift just at the right time, because
Speaker 3: see it's like right there.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, you look ethereal it's actually.
Speaker 2: Like an angel.
Speaker 1: Yes, So it's not only what you look like, but
Speaker 1: as we were like, as we were opening here talking
Speaker 1: about the things that you've done, it's a little bit intimidating.
Speaker 2: It's bordering on annoying. But I am.
Speaker 1: Welcoming you with open arms and a warm heart.
Speaker 2: We both are. I am pretty amazed, are you Right now?
Speaker 3: We're in Jersey, I'm in Connecticut.
Speaker 2: Actually you're in Connecticut. Okay, so yeah, so we're neighbors.
Speaker 2: I met. We are in New Jersey. You know that
Speaker 2: came out like where and you grew up in Boston.
Speaker 3: No, I grew up in Boston. Yeah, just outside of Boston, Hedford.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I went to Boston Universe we went to
Speaker 1: after a couple of years. But yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: But anyway, that's for another episode. So Maria, welcome. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much for being with us. We really do
Speaker 1: appreciate it, and thanks for having no we want to
Speaker 1: just start out, you know, when we have started out
Speaker 1: already kind of listing your accomplishments. Your career has been huge.
Speaker 1: I honestly, Jackie just said, like, you know when you like,
Speaker 1: wake up and you think I'm going to do this today,
Speaker 1: and then you know, five minutes in, you're like, eh,
Speaker 1: not so much. Like we're saying that Maria Minuno's is
Speaker 1: the one that actually does it, which is rare. So
Speaker 1: you know, and again we started talking about all the
Speaker 1: things that you've done, but maybe I'm sure that we're
Speaker 1: missing a lot. I was actually saying you started out
Speaker 1: as like miss teen, Were you like miss teen Massachusetts?
Speaker 1: I was, yeah, I can't seriously, Wow, how did you
Speaker 1: get into pageanting?
Speaker 3: Well, I remember I was like thirteen and I got
Speaker 3: a card in the mail for the Miss Perfect Teen pageant,
Speaker 3: And at that time I was like starting, like I
Speaker 3: really wanted a model, I wanted to do stuff. And
Speaker 3: I got the card in the mail and my parents,
Speaker 3: my dad was like no. And then the next year
Speaker 3: I came again. The next year, I enlisted the help
Speaker 3: of my cousin Anthony. I was like, you got to
Speaker 3: convince them to let me do this, and at that
Speaker 3: point I was like fifteen, actually, and so I did
Speaker 3: it and I won Miss Massachusetts perfecteen.
Speaker 2: I can't imagine.
Speaker 1: I imagine it putting that title on a pageant now,
Speaker 1: I would never write no way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I was perfectly.
Speaker 2: Dad happy once he won. He's proud, of course, like
Speaker 2: we went.
Speaker 3: It was the first time we won. And then we
Speaker 3: went to Myrtle Beach, South Carolina for the national competition.
Speaker 3: I think I came in like third or something there.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: And then eventually I did Miss mass Teen USA and
Speaker 3: did that, and so yeah, that was kind of the
Speaker 3: entry point.
Speaker 2: And then in college, that's when your career started really
Speaker 2: taking off in the TV world.
Speaker 3: Right, so I feel like everything is like baby steps, right,
Speaker 3: Like how does a Greek girl from you know, parents
Speaker 3: who are immigrants make it? I don't know. You just
Speaker 3: make one move after another. So the pageants were, you know,
Speaker 3: a great entry point. Started doing some commercial work and
Speaker 3: things like that, and then in college I was really
Speaker 3: studying journalism and film and worked on a movie with
Speaker 3: my now husband Kevin. That really was the launching pad,
Speaker 3: like you know, when my classmates didn't want to work
Speaker 3: for free and I did well. Then somebody I met
Speaker 3: on the movie helped me get my big break in
Speaker 3: LA at Channel one News.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: So I didn't finish my last year of college because
Speaker 3: I ended up getting that job.
Speaker 1: And you and Kevin your husband, now I believe I
Speaker 1: him correct, You started dating in college and your father
Speaker 1: was not pleased. And you already said that your Greek.
Speaker 1: You have a very strong Greek heritage background, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: my dad was.
Speaker 3: I think it was more like he was like freaked
Speaker 3: out that it could be having sex. I don't know,
Speaker 3: like it was just very bad. It was a very
Speaker 3: ugly time. So it was because he was in Greek
Speaker 3: And yes, my dad was, you know, had his dream
Speaker 3: of you know, me marrying a Greek person and that
Speaker 3: whole scam.
Speaker 1: But you love that moving, But do you love my
Speaker 1: big fat Greek wedding? Doesn't love that doesn't but doesn't
Speaker 1: resonate with you?
Speaker 3: Is that, of course? With the whole world?
Speaker 1: Ye, that's true.
Speaker 2: That's true every Jewish, Yes, for sure. With all of
Speaker 2: these jobs and all of these amazing things that you've done,
Speaker 2: is there any one that's been your favorite? You've done,
Speaker 2: commercial work, reality shows, radio work, all of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, listen, I love everything, which is why
Speaker 3: I've done so many different things. I've wrestled, and so
Speaker 3: I love to talking about that.
Speaker 2: Okay, we talk about that. We have to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because jams can kind of understand what you're
Speaker 1: saying right now.
Speaker 2: Were you part of the WWE?
Speaker 3: I am fourno on the WWE? I wrestled at WrestleMania Guys.
Speaker 3: Mark Wahlberg was sitting front row and I watched his
Speaker 3: mouth go, what are we? I'm like, God, why'd you even?
Speaker 2: Who said? Marie? We have an idea? It was you?
Speaker 2: I want to be a wrestling What what are you
Speaker 2: talking about?
Speaker 3: Inside scoop, I watched wrestling my whole life with my dad,
Speaker 3: and so I was a diehard wrestling fan. I met Kevin,
Speaker 3: who's also a diehard wrestling fan. When I first met
Speaker 3: Kevin as a chubby nineteen year old at one point
Speaker 3: when he you know, we were working on his movie.
Speaker 3: He lost, his movie went bankrupt. The whole world caved
Speaker 3: in on him. He was going to go potentially work
Speaker 3: with the WWE, and he was like, you could wrestle,
Speaker 3: all right? It was like great, So he went and
Speaker 3: he met with Shane McMahon and he met with you
Speaker 3: know them over there. I think he even had FaceTime
Speaker 3: Evince at the time. And my job at Channel one
Speaker 3: came in the interim, and so that never even came
Speaker 3: to fruition. So we left and we moved to LA
Speaker 3: But then the dream to wrestle was still there, so
Speaker 3: then let me finish. So then flash forward years later,
Speaker 3: I was telling my publicist because they started having Monday
Speaker 3: Night Raw guest hosts. I said, you got to get
Speaker 3: me in. I have to do this, And so he
Speaker 3: calls me like a month after that meeting. Meanwhile, he
Speaker 3: had not made one call yet, and he's like, you're
Speaker 3: not going to believe this. I didn't even call them.
Speaker 3: They called us. They want you to do it. I said, great,
Speaker 3: on one condition, I want to wrestle. They didn't take
Speaker 3: me seriously. They thought I was you know, and by
Speaker 3: the way, WW is such a machine, they don't have
Speaker 3: time to worry about Maria wrestling or whatever. So I
Speaker 3: went and I hired a coach. I started doing backyard
Speaker 3: wrestling and learning. I showed up for that guest host appearance.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I know how to wrestle, let's go, and
Speaker 3: they created something on the fly, and from there I
Speaker 3: knew how to taunt the audience as a fan, so
Speaker 3: I taunted the audience. I taunted the other wrestlers and
Speaker 3: it became a thing that led to WrestleMania, and it
Speaker 3: was the first time the women got airtime on TV.
Speaker 3: It was a big deal. And I was doing Dancing
Speaker 3: with the Stars at the same time. So I had
Speaker 3: cracked ribs, fractured feet. I was a hot mess. But
Speaker 3: I had to go and I did it, and it
Speaker 3: was one of the highlights of my life for sure.
Speaker 3: And then the other favorite thing I've done was like
Speaker 3: Nightly News for sure.
Speaker 1: Ria, but your face, I would have never if we
Speaker 1: had been friends back then, I would have never allowed
Speaker 1: for such a thing.
Speaker 2: You could really get hurt. No, right hurt. Look at
Speaker 2: her face? Who does that?
Speaker 3: I'm dead? I said, okay, you know I said that
Speaker 3: to Daria Baronatto, who's now Sonya Deville and WWE. When
Speaker 3: she first came to After Buzz as one of our hosts.
Speaker 3: We went to Aronda Rosie the UFC fight and we
Speaker 3: were sitting in the booth and I go, you are
Speaker 3: too pretty to be fighting and having people punch you
Speaker 3: in the face. We out you and then long story short,
Speaker 3: I'm in a meeting with USA Network for tough Enough,
Speaker 3: no for something for general, and they're like, you should
Speaker 3: do tough enough. I'm like, no, but I know who's perfect.
Speaker 3: And then she did that and ended up launching her
Speaker 3: whole career, which is so cool. So she made the shift. Wow.
Speaker 2: So dancing with them? What's easier dancing with the stars
Speaker 2: or WWA or what's harder? I can't imagine. Both of
Speaker 2: them are so out of my realm of what I
Speaker 2: possibly can do.
Speaker 3: They're both really hard wrestlers, really have a hard life.
Speaker 3: I mean they're traveling three hundred and sixty days a
Speaker 3: year by rental car and you know, the whole thing.
Speaker 3: I mean, the what they put their bodies through is
Speaker 3: so intense. I have the utmost respect for them, which
Speaker 3: is why I think I did so well with them,
Speaker 3: because they knew I wasn't just, you know, there for
Speaker 3: any other reason. I really respect them and their craft
Speaker 3: and dancing.
Speaker 2: My god, when I.
Speaker 3: First started had the video, I couldn't put you know,
Speaker 3: two steps together. Derek had, you know, a definite project
Speaker 3: player on his hands. But you know, the cool thing
Speaker 3: in my life is I've I love challenges. I love
Speaker 3: living in that moment of like terror and like am
Speaker 3: I gonna be Okay? Am I gonna be? Okay?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 3: We did all right? All right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm so glad you said that.
Speaker 1: Yeah you said someone like you that you don't get
Speaker 1: scared of. Yeah. Well, I was going to say, like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be this cheesy transition, right, but like,
Speaker 1: clearly you're a fighter, and you know, I'm sure we're
Speaker 1: going to talk about your health challenges. But when I
Speaker 1: was reading what I was reading about you, even going
Speaker 1: back to your childhood, what struck me was that you
Speaker 1: grew up with a father with Type one diabetes, and
Speaker 1: I have a daughter with type one diabetes. So I
Speaker 1: know a lot about how difficult that can be, but
Speaker 1: I'm sure most of our listeners don't know. But type
Speaker 1: one diabetes is way more It's still a bitch, but
Speaker 1: it's way more manageable now. So going back that many years,
Speaker 1: I'm there were no pumps, there were no sensors, right,
Speaker 1: So it was life and very life and death. And
Speaker 1: I was reading about how often your father would have
Speaker 1: low blood sugar and how often he was, you know,
Speaker 1: on the verge of death and you had to be tough.
Speaker 1: How old were you when he first was diagnosed.
Speaker 3: Oh, he was diagnosed when he was like twenty, way
Speaker 3: before I wash, okaved, yeah, so it was my whole
Speaker 3: life with him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay, So I mean I'm I'm thinking you
Speaker 1: know that already. Now you have a different type of
Speaker 1: childhood starting there, and you obviously rose to all of
Speaker 1: these occasions. But yeah, the fighting thing, the wrestling thing. Again,
Speaker 1: I didn't want to sound cheesy, so I'm glad you
Speaker 1: said it, but you clearly enjoy a fight.
Speaker 2: So the one job aspect that we do have in
Speaker 2: common was the reality show. Yeah, yeah, unfortunately, yes, right,
Speaker 2: so your reality show it was called Chasing Briam and
Speaker 2: you know, sorry, did you enjoy it? Do you like
Speaker 2: sharing your did you have to share your whole life?
Speaker 3: You know that was such a tough thing because I
Speaker 3: had no problem sharing. The problem is they were so
Speaker 3: fake about it. They had like their agenda of what
Speaker 3: they wanted, which was marriage and babies, and that was
Speaker 3: my dad's dream. That's all he wanted at the time.
Speaker 3: And I said to them at one point, I go,
Speaker 3: if my dad is sick of this, then that means
Speaker 3: the audience is going to be totally sick of this.
Speaker 3: So instead of allowing for reality to happen, which I
Speaker 3: think is hard with budgetary constraints, I'm like, guys, we
Speaker 3: are definitely full of stuff. And imagine if they had
Speaker 3: been filming these last seven years. There was so much
Speaker 3: stuff that had gone on. But they were the I guess,
Speaker 3: the plan you know, laid out was just very restrictive
Speaker 3: and so it wasn't as fun as I thought. The
Speaker 3: one good thing is is I do I do have
Speaker 3: my family on camera, and it was it was fun
Speaker 3: to be with my parents a little bit more than
Speaker 3: I would have at that time because we had to
Speaker 3: squeeze in filming. But but but I do think that
Speaker 3: Jackie's like, I think about that for you, because you
Speaker 3: have your kids forever, you know, right, I have toes
Speaker 3: that I'll ever be able to watch back, you know,
Speaker 3: for all the good and the bad.
Speaker 2: You don't find the time and the energy. How do
Speaker 2: you find the time for all of for all of it?
Speaker 3: I mean before I was just a human doing. That's
Speaker 3: why I said, I'm like the brain tumor came to
Speaker 3: make me a human being. I was just a human doing.
Speaker 3: I was just a machine NonStop. And I think when
Speaker 3: you grow up the way I did. I just had
Speaker 3: someone on my show on Heel Squad talking about how
Speaker 3: we're high functioning codependence and hfc's are just really good
Speaker 3: in crisis. We're really good at solving everything. And you know,
Speaker 3: I grew up not speaking the language. I had to
Speaker 3: be my parents interpreter. I was first gen had to
Speaker 3: literally revive and save my dad on the regular. We
Speaker 3: were always in fight or flight and you know, we
Speaker 3: you know, had some really rough times financially as well.
Speaker 3: So I think that when I made it in this business,
Speaker 3: I found it to be such a blessing. I was like,
Speaker 3: my God, I'm making more money than my parents ever
Speaker 3: could have dreamed of. How could I say no? And
Speaker 3: how could I not go for every opportunity and do everything?
Speaker 3: And so yeah, that's what I did, and then got
Speaker 3: through a brick at my head and then said, let's recalibrate.
Speaker 1: So you, guys, I just want to make sure that
Speaker 1: our viewers understand a little bit even more about your background.
Speaker 1: But your mom had a brain tumor. I hope it's okay.
Speaker 2: I'm sure.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking it's okay. I know you're very open about
Speaker 1: your struggle. It is okay. So your mom had had
Speaker 1: a malignant brain tumor. And was it a year later
Speaker 1: that you were diagnosed as well with a brain tumor? Month?
Speaker 2: But a nine one months? I mean, wow, it's mind growing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So what was that that whole time period? Were you
Speaker 2: working through it? Were you? Well?
Speaker 3: It was crazy because my mom was diagnosed beginning of
Speaker 3: September twenty sixteen with a malignant brain tumor called glioblastoma
Speaker 3: stage four brain cancer, one of the deadliest cancers you
Speaker 3: can get. Oh gosh, don't ask. I have no freaking clue.
Speaker 3: This was twenty sixteen. Someone do the mau Yeah, thirty
Speaker 3: thirty eight, thirty nine something like that. Anyway, I was
Speaker 3: working at E News at the time, and now I'm
Speaker 3: trying to like and serious X, I'm trying to keep
Speaker 3: all the masters happy while I'm also trying to keep
Speaker 3: my mom alive. And I thought the headaches I was
Speaker 3: getting and the pain I was having and the fatigue
Speaker 3: was all due to the stress of my mom. And
Speaker 3: then I started learning my speech and then I was
Speaker 3: needing second takes and I was like one take, Maria,
Speaker 3: Like what the heck's going on? And then I started
Speaker 3: having really bad ear pain. And so the ear pain
Speaker 3: took me to the doctor because I'm like, do I
Speaker 3: have an ear infection? At thirty something like this is crazy?
Speaker 3: And he was like, you don't have an ear infection?
Speaker 3: What else are you feeling? Well? Once I started rattling
Speaker 3: off all those symptoms, He's like, I go, oh my god,
Speaker 3: and he's like what I go, I think I have
Speaker 3: a brain tumor, Like my mom, isn't that crazy? Just
Speaker 3: saying it right now, I'm reminded of how crazy that was.
Speaker 3: And he's like, I don't think you're crazy. Let's just
Speaker 3: get MRI to rule it out, and then the MRI
Speaker 3: said I had a brain tumor. Now luckily mine appeared
Speaker 3: to be benign, but they were like, we don't know,
Speaker 3: but mine. Also when I talked to her the same neurosurgeon.
Speaker 3: When I call the neurosurgeon, doctor Keith Black's office, I
Speaker 3: was like, I need an appointment. They're like, oh, okay,
Speaker 3: so what time can your mom came? I go, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: it's for me and they were shook. I said, so,
Speaker 3: surely this is going to be an easier surgery than
Speaker 3: my mom's and he was like, nope, this is way
Speaker 3: more complicated. Wow.
Speaker 2: Is that hereditary or coincidental?
Speaker 3: Totally coincidental. I believe it was the IVF that did
Speaker 3: this because when I was doing IVF. First of all,
Speaker 3: at some point we're going to learn how dangerous IVF is.
Speaker 3: I'm not against it obviously because I have a beautiful
Speaker 3: baby because of it, but I do always tell people
Speaker 3: to get a scan before you do anything, to see
Speaker 3: if there's anything that will grow. The reason my neurosurgeon
Speaker 3: wouldn't let me get pregnant is he was afraid when
Speaker 3: you get hormones going, things grows when right, So I
Speaker 3: unknowingly might have had the brain tumor in my head
Speaker 3: all this time, or maybe it came out of nowhere.
Speaker 3: I don't know, But all I know is when I
Speaker 3: was taking those progesterone shots, I called my doctor and
Speaker 3: I said, I want to drive my car through a
Speaker 3: brick wall and I was my head was exploding, and
Speaker 3: she was like, stop the progesterone. And that was I
Speaker 3: think months before I finished, months before I was diagnosed,
Speaker 3: I had finished my last IVF cycle, So I think
Speaker 3: the hormones grew it. So I always tell my girlfriends
Speaker 3: and now all of you, because it's really sketchy to
Speaker 3: like go out in public and say this stuff. I
Speaker 3: feel like people like get really like freaked out and upset.
Speaker 3: But secretly, behind the scenes, I always tell my friends,
Speaker 3: if you are going to do IVF, find a way
Speaker 3: to get a skin and make sure that nothing's going
Speaker 3: to grow, because these hormones have the potential to grow things.
Speaker 1: They say that about right now, So I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: way past the time to get pregnant, but I'm in
Speaker 1: that phase of menopause where you take hormones. You take
Speaker 1: estrogen right to make you feel better with in terms
Speaker 1: of what's going on with your body during menopause. And
Speaker 1: then I think it's sort of the same idea, right,
Speaker 1: Like it's a very it's a balancing act and it's
Speaker 1: a risk versus reward because you know, hormones can if
Speaker 1: I don't know what, they can actually cause cancer, but
Speaker 1: they can grow cancer from what I understand.
Speaker 2: So and doctors don't tell you that I had five
Speaker 2: rounds of IVF myself.
Speaker 3: They don't tell you, and you wouldn't know that metals
Speaker 3: stuff like, you wouldn't know. And then also the other
Speaker 3: thing that's crazy is nobody knows that you can actually
Speaker 3: do natural realms. So it's a much less expensive thing too,
Speaker 3: which they don't want you to really know about. But
Speaker 3: my IVF doctor, doctor Wennie Chang, who is amazing, told
Speaker 3: me that it was possible. So if you have follicle naturally,
Speaker 3: you can just do a trigger shot and go in
Speaker 3: for your your removal. You just have to time everything carefully.
Speaker 3: But there is a way to do natural cycles to
Speaker 3: avoid all of those shots.
Speaker 1: I hope that a lot of women are listening.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope that you know. You know, I always
Speaker 2: say that you have to advocate for yourself at these
Speaker 2: doctors appointments, because they really some doctors do not do
Speaker 2: a great job. But anyway, So, so you you're diagnosed
Speaker 2: with this brain tumor, they find that it's benign, you
Speaker 2: have surgery.
Speaker 3: To reveals whether it's benign or not. So yeah, so
Speaker 3: they removed it as much as they could because there's
Speaker 3: a tumor that's there's still tumor in there that's wrapped
Speaker 3: around my facial nerves. So if he tried to get
Speaker 3: rid of it, I would have been paralyzed. So he
Speaker 3: left it alone, thank god.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and so do you have any remaining Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's stuff that I fee.
Speaker 3: But I manage it. And I've been doing a lot
Speaker 3: of things like lightning my mind talks and load has
Speaker 3: been helpful. Meditation has been helpful. I'm experimenting every day
Speaker 3: with stuff to to heal and get better.
Speaker 1: I am. It occurs to me that I know I
Speaker 1: have known some people with brain tumors and malignant or not.
Speaker 1: Brain surgery is a very very serious kind of surgery.
Speaker 1: I don't think you know, it's not just like Okay,
Speaker 1: we're going to go in and take it out. When
Speaker 1: it comes to the brain, it's and you can if
Speaker 1: I'm not right, but I think it's very very tricky
Speaker 1: and very very risky, and so I just that hits
Speaker 1: me because you've just gone through a lot of stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was an eight hour surgery.
Speaker 2: No, that one.
Speaker 3: Was six and a half I think, And then the
Speaker 3: pancreas surgery was like eight.
Speaker 2: After your brain tumor comes out and you're recovering, then
Speaker 2: you get thrown another health Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, I was feeling something. I was getting really bloated.
Speaker 3: Things weren't right. I was like, something's off somehow predicted
Speaker 3: on my own show. An audience member later was like,
Speaker 3: you predicted this in April before you were diagnosed. I'm
Speaker 3: like what, And I listened and looked. I was like,
Speaker 3: oh my god. But that's not pertinent to the story.
Speaker 3: But the truth is is I knew something was wrong.
Speaker 3: I kept investigating different diagnostic tests. They kept telling me
Speaker 3: it was fine. I went to the doctor's buckled over
Speaker 3: and excruciating pain, like unbelievable, unbearable pain. They told me
Speaker 3: it was fine. And it was only until I got
Speaker 3: this pernuvo scan that they found a tumor, a large
Speaker 3: tumor on the tail of my pancreas. It's called the
Speaker 3: neuroendocrine tumor. That's what Steve Jobs had and it had
Speaker 3: doubled in size within two months of that scan, where
Speaker 3: I went to the doctors and I was like, I'm
Speaker 3: in so much pain?
Speaker 1: And when when was this? This was last year and
Speaker 1: it was you did the pernubo scan. Well you just
Speaker 1: saw our listeners because I hear more and more about
Speaker 1: people doing it. That's a full body.
Speaker 3: It's a full body scan. Yeah, so they listen. It's
Speaker 3: not it's not free, and it's not perfect, but they
Speaker 3: saved my life when you know, traditional hospitals told me
Speaker 3: I was fine and sent me home. This thing doubled
Speaker 3: in size. Now where would I be by June if
Speaker 3: from November to January it doubled And my baby was
Speaker 3: due in June.
Speaker 1: So wow, And now how old is Athena?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 3: She's seventeen months next week?
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 2: Do you call her your miracle baby?
Speaker 1: Right? She is?
Speaker 2: I think I read that as yeah, wow, So your
Speaker 2: your health journey now, are you in the clear? Are
Speaker 2: you still battling?
Speaker 3: You know, I'm in the clear in a lot of ways,
Speaker 3: but like there's still stuff right, Like I was in
Speaker 3: the Dominican Republic earlier this year because they thought they
Speaker 3: found liver cancer, and I was like, I don't think
Speaker 3: it's liver cancer. I think my body's just having a
Speaker 3: hard time processing all these scans. People think scans are nebulous,
Speaker 3: they're not. When you're getting gatolinium and you're getting CT scans,
Speaker 3: these are very powerful, high radiation, highly toxic things. And yeah,
Speaker 3: if you're doing one, that's fine, But I've had to
Speaker 3: do so many and no one's really counting, and no
Speaker 3: one's really paying attention, and so I was like, I
Speaker 3: think my body's just having a hard time detoxing all
Speaker 3: this out while I went to the dr and I
Speaker 3: created this little health proto call of just sun and
Speaker 3: grounding and sweating and sleeping, and they all shrunk in
Speaker 3: two and a half weeks.
Speaker 1: How in the world did you know that it wasn't
Speaker 1: your liver? How would you be that in tune?
Speaker 3: I am super intuitive, but I also I've learned over
Speaker 3: these last seven years of this brain tumor experience and
Speaker 3: stuff to listen. And I just felt I felt like
Speaker 3: it didn't make any sense, and I didn't feel like
Speaker 3: it was true, because yeah, I just didn't. So I
Speaker 3: was like, I'm just going to go experiment, and I
Speaker 3: know the equator is really healing from everything I've studied
Speaker 3: and my natural path that's been on my show a
Speaker 3: lot that's helped me through a lot, and I was
Speaker 3: really pleased, obviously with the results. And so when you
Speaker 3: say are you healed, I mean I still have a
Speaker 3: brain tumor. I still have lesions on my liver, like
Speaker 3: two new ones popped up, we just found, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'm looking at Kevin. I'm like, but I'm not scared.
Speaker 3: I think I'm fine. He goes, I think you're fine too,
Speaker 3: And so I just think, again, these scans that I
Speaker 3: got before now have accumulated. So it's it's a thing,
Speaker 3: and so I'm constantly working on it. I'm using my
Speaker 3: red light and my sauna and my sun and my
Speaker 3: grounding and my fashion release exercises. I'm like, as as
Speaker 3: much as I can devote each day to my healing
Speaker 3: and my health. It's important obviously because I need to
Speaker 3: be around for my baby. But I know I'm vibrant
Speaker 3: and healthy. I know a lot of this doesn't make sense.
Speaker 3: The diabetes actually broke my heart and threw me on
Speaker 3: the floor because I think I have so much trauma
Speaker 3: with that. Like the brain tumor was easy in a sense,
Speaker 3: Like I did have moments where like the mac truck
Speaker 3: rolled over my chest and I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: someone's gonna saw my head open. But I watched my
Speaker 3: mom go in with a smile and I was like, Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm good. I'm in great hands. There's nobody better than
Speaker 3: doctor Black. And the diabetes killed me because I had
Speaker 3: quit sugar two years before, and I it just didn't
Speaker 3: make any sense all this shit.
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just want everybody to understand. I don't understand it
Speaker 1: all everything you're saying. I understand this part of it
Speaker 1: that is type one diabetes. And I want you guys
Speaker 1: to understand that that in itself is an every day
Speaker 1: on your mind.
Speaker 2: I know this.
Speaker 1: I'll cry too, because it's like that in and of
Speaker 1: itself is so hard, and then you have all of
Speaker 1: this other stuff. You are my absolute new hero. You
Speaker 1: have to be my friend, our friend.
Speaker 2: You must. You are so I'm so proud of you.
Speaker 3: Maria.
Speaker 2: What's your energy level like has it affected like.
Speaker 3: It's been so hard at different time times like to
Speaker 3: be honest, but right now it's been it's on the upswing,
Speaker 3: and so that's been really exciting. I mean, doctor Allison
Speaker 3: and I have done so much work that I feel
Speaker 3: like I have more energy than I ever have. So
Speaker 3: that's been really good.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I say, I kind of have to pitch a perfect
Speaker 3: game with my health, like I can't. I don't have
Speaker 3: a lot of wiggle room because I have to. I
Speaker 3: have to really heal from all these things and they
Speaker 3: are healable. Like even when they found the breast lesion.
Speaker 3: I went back to doctor Funk and she goes, it's shrunk.
Speaker 3: I was like, yes, because I focused in my meditations
Speaker 3: on it shrinking. So I keep getting success even though
Speaker 3: there's so much shit that pops up and it's felt
Speaker 3: like whack a mole. I know how to heal, and
Speaker 3: I believe in my healing and Saint Nctarios, our healing saint,
Speaker 3: has been so good to me.
Speaker 2: So I need to write that down.
Speaker 3: Star Saint Niktarios Nectar Nectarios. Okay, he is the healing
Speaker 3: saint in the Greek Orthodox Church, but he will heal
Speaker 3: anyone who believes in him, and I've had so many
Speaker 3: miraculous moments of healing, whether it's me, my mom, my friends.
Speaker 3: I wear my bracelet that I got at his church
Speaker 3: in Aegina, Greece, which is an island just south of Athens,
Speaker 3: and so ever since he's come into my life, like
Speaker 3: so much good has happened, and I know that the
Speaker 3: it looks like so much bad has happened too. And listen,
Speaker 3: it's not been easy, but I do believe that it's
Speaker 3: happened for me, not to me. And I do believe
Speaker 3: that it's happened to me because I can figure it
Speaker 3: out and I can heal and I can show other
Speaker 3: people how to do it, and I do that through
Speaker 3: my show every day.
Speaker 2: So you know what a mindset. It's unbelievable. You know.
Speaker 2: They say that like you could have a million problems
Speaker 2: until something happens with your health and then you have
Speaker 2: one problem. There is just no there's no way around it.
Speaker 2: You are my hero.
Speaker 1: I've had people in my life that have been you know,
Speaker 1: they've been, they've gotten sick, they've had kids. I have
Speaker 1: friends whose kids have gotten sick.
Speaker 2: Nobody.
Speaker 1: I always say this to my daughter, who has Type
Speaker 1: one I'm like, you know, nobody gets away, and I
Speaker 1: just I'm much talking about health issues. No one gets away.
Speaker 1: Everyone has got their stuff, and hopefully we all deal
Speaker 1: with the cards we are dealt with, you know, we
Speaker 1: can actually turn them into something productive. You wanting to
Speaker 1: inspire people, you know and say, what did you just say?
Speaker 2: It happened?
Speaker 3: Happened to me?
Speaker 1: I absolutely absolutely love that. But you know, tell us
Speaker 1: something good, tell us.
Speaker 2: Let's tell us, let's pivot a hard pivot and talk
Speaker 2: about this Christmas movie. Now, I'm a Jewish girl. I
Speaker 2: love Christmas. Me friends all love it too, so I
Speaker 2: just get this feeling. I remember sitting in the movie theater.
Speaker 2: I was single. It was like two thousand and six.
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm never going to meet newbody, and
Speaker 2: I was watching that movie Love Actually yeah, my husband
Speaker 2: a few months later, but I was like, I just
Speaker 2: nothing makes me feel better than a Christmas movie, Christmas
Speaker 2: general issues. Please.
Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you. The Christmas movies came at the
Speaker 3: perfect time because it was on my bucket list to
Speaker 3: do one, and it was because of my mom that
Speaker 3: I got in the first one. Because I had made
Speaker 3: this like little video on YouTube of our journey caretaking
Speaker 3: for her in her last months. And my friend Ryan McPartland,
Speaker 3: who is a Christmas movie star amongst other amazing things
Speaker 3: like chuck and stuff, but he was making one just
Speaker 3: down the street in Connecticut, so he connected with me
Speaker 3: to tell me how moved he was by this peace
Speaker 3: I put together. And then I ended up as his
Speaker 3: sister in this, and then the director of that called
Speaker 3: me to start in the next one, which came out
Speaker 3: two years ago, and then he called me for this
Speaker 3: one that we shot in London. So funny you talk
Speaker 3: about love, Actually we shot ours in London, so you're
Speaker 3: not really used to seeing, you know, these holiday movies
Speaker 3: on Lifetime, et cetera, where they're set in London. There's
Speaker 3: I think only two Christmas movies set there. So you're
Speaker 3: going to get the most amazing British feels, the accents,
Speaker 3: the charm.
Speaker 1: Are you British in it? Do you have to have
Speaker 1: put on the absent?
Speaker 3: No, thank god, because that would take a little bit
Speaker 3: of work because my accent ain't great. But but I've
Speaker 3: worked on it the whole time there. But I play
Speaker 3: an architect, like a New York City architect who, unknownst
Speaker 3: to her had this great aunt that left her a
Speaker 3: manner and she has one week she has to spend
Speaker 3: there before she can make the decision of keeping it
Speaker 3: or getting rid of it. And she's like, you know,
Speaker 3: the super type A, it's all about her career. She
Speaker 3: shows up there, she sees a whole other lifestyle, you know,
Speaker 3: a life where like community and events and you know, Christmas,
Speaker 3: you know, Carol of the Bell, events and stuff are
Speaker 3: the main focus. And she ends up falling in love
Speaker 3: and sees a whole other path for life. And I
Speaker 3: feel like a lot of us need to to kind
Speaker 3: of see it for a few reasons. One like, listen,
Speaker 3: we love holiday movies, and this one I think will
Speaker 3: make you have all the holiday feels. And I know
Speaker 3: for me, with everything that we've gone through, these have
Speaker 3: been great escapes. And there are hard times out there.
Speaker 3: People are really suffering, and that's why we love watching these.
Speaker 3: But the other thing is is like for all of
Speaker 3: us kind of type A high function and independence, some kidding,
Speaker 3: all of us Type A women who kind of sometimes
Speaker 3: forget that there's other things that matter other than just
Speaker 3: business and making it and succeeding and buying more things.
Speaker 2: Like are you listening to us.
Speaker 1: We need us in particular, need to be hearing this. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I know, but it's just it's so true because it's
Speaker 1: so easy, especially in we were in reality television and
Speaker 1: you forget all of a sudden, you're so caught up
Speaker 1: in that world and all you know you need to
Speaker 1: be reminded. But please, I'm sorry, go on.
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, life is about more than that. And the
Speaker 3: problem is is we've been born and bred into like achieved, succeed,
Speaker 3: get good grades, get a huge job, make a lot
Speaker 3: of money, and then maybe marriage and kids. Never health,
Speaker 3: but everything's always an aside to money and success that's
Speaker 3: always first. And so the great gift I think I've
Speaker 3: gotten from all of the health crises is that there's
Speaker 3: so much more to life. And I've been working actively
Speaker 3: in the last seven years on redefining success from myself,
Speaker 3: because we also define success by other people's standards, and
Speaker 3: I caught myself doing that. I was chasing the people
Speaker 3: who were working twenty four to seven and like all
Speaker 3: this stuff, and I'm like, wait, this is so against
Speaker 3: my nature. I don't care. Kevin's been trying to put
Speaker 3: shows together with my name on it. This and that
Speaker 3: I don't care. I just want to be happy. I
Speaker 3: want to live. I want to cook something in my
Speaker 3: kitchen with my family. I want to be present for
Speaker 3: my baby. I want to work as little as possible,
Speaker 3: but maintain as much as I can what I have now.
Speaker 3: I don't need more. Like I remember meeting with a
Speaker 3: friend who was, you know, really successful in business, Murray folio.
Speaker 3: She's a business teacher, and we were talking about kind
Speaker 3: of my next phase in life. This was two years ago,
Speaker 3: and she's like, how much money do you want to
Speaker 3: kind I'm like, I give her a number. It was
Speaker 3: so low, and she goes, what I go, I don't care.
Speaker 3: I just need to be healthy. That's all that matter.
Speaker 3: But we don't ever realize it until shit hits the fans.
Speaker 3: So I'm always I think that now more than ever,
Speaker 3: and the millennials are doing this, the gen zers are
Speaker 3: doing this. They're looking at our generation like we were
Speaker 3: crazy people, workaholics, and they're going the other way. But
Speaker 3: there's a happy medium, right.
Speaker 2: They're getting a lot of slack for that too. They're
Speaker 2: called a very lazy generation, a very like coddles. Well,
Speaker 2: I think there is a happy medium.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Like we don't need to be chasing a
Speaker 3: life that we didn't even want. And I think that
Speaker 3: a lot of us chase a life we don't even want.
Speaker 3: We're not really happy, We're like snappy and short and miserable.
Speaker 3: I know, I remember, and it's not worth it.
Speaker 2: It's just I mean, can you just change that by
Speaker 2: changing your mindset? Because I think I have a little
Speaker 2: of that, Like I want things so that I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm not super in tune to what I want. I
Speaker 2: sometimes I know that I want things that I don't
Speaker 2: really deep down want, but I want other people to
Speaker 2: see me doing them.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And I think that it really comes down
Speaker 3: to you having like some time with yourself to be like,
Speaker 3: what do I really want? What do I not want?
Speaker 3: And how do I now get time with myself to
Speaker 3: be more introspective? Like meditation has changed everything for me.
Speaker 3: I'm not currently meditating the way I was. I'm about
Speaker 3: to get back on track because we've been doing so
Speaker 3: much here. But but I'll tell you like it, it
Speaker 3: really is important to find the things that are going
Speaker 3: to give you joy and happiness that don't cost anything.
Speaker 3: Making that list and then realizing, well, like all these
Speaker 3: things that I'm focusing my energy and attention on are
Speaker 3: taking away from the things I really want. I really
Speaker 3: want time with my family. I don't want to be
Speaker 3: on my phone all the time. I want to be
Speaker 3: able to go, you know, on fun adventures with my
Speaker 3: with my kids, or with my friends. Or I don't
Speaker 3: really care about the stupid new.
Speaker 2: Chanelle bag like Ammen's sister.
Speaker 3: I don't want to be robbed, so I don't buy
Speaker 3: this stuff. I'm like at this point, like you're just
Speaker 3: a target anyway, Like, let's let's put that into just
Speaker 3: not having to work more so, less less of that stuff,
Speaker 3: more peace.
Speaker 2: If you ever want a new job, you could be
Speaker 2: my life coach. Do you write?
Speaker 1: Are you writing a book? I mean, I know you've
Speaker 1: done enough and I shouldn't be pressuring you.
Speaker 2: But you've written a book? You have.
Speaker 3: I've written a few books, but but that was in
Speaker 3: my crazy stage. You know, it's been really hard. I
Speaker 3: had a book deal just before COVID didn't feel right,
Speaker 3: so I passed. I do have a few in me,
Speaker 3: but I really just want to be with Athena, and
Speaker 3: so it's going to take a while before I have
Speaker 3: a documentary. I've been in the middle of I'm like,
Speaker 3: everything's just going to take a backseat to my health
Speaker 3: and my baby, So you don't need.
Speaker 1: To actually give us what we want them, because I've
Speaker 1: got a list of things from.
Speaker 3: You, I will tell you. Funny enough, I was just
Speaker 3: on a meeting with one of my team members and
Speaker 3: I was like, listen, and I finally think I have
Speaker 3: the energy to put some things forward that I've wanted
Speaker 3: to do, and I almost did last year, but then
Speaker 3: the pancreast tumor derailed me. But one of my dreams
Speaker 3: is to put health retreats together and take people on
Speaker 3: this journey so that if you want to be healthier,
Speaker 3: you'll learn the foundational health things that you need to learn.
Speaker 3: But if you need to heal from something, we can
Speaker 3: also teach you how to do that. I've also already
Speaker 3: guinea piged myself. I've proven that the stuff works, and
Speaker 3: doctor Allison, my partner, is the genius of all geniuses.
Speaker 3: And then I want to also put a course together
Speaker 3: for women to be able to do exactly what you
Speaker 3: were just asking, figure out what you really want. I
Speaker 3: got this weird downloading COVID and it was like coming
Speaker 3: through so fast and I'm writing everything down, writing everything down,
Speaker 3: I'm like, I need this and then I go me
Speaker 3: this shit. So I was just on the phone with that.
Speaker 3: I was like, if we can make this easy and
Speaker 3: I can film this and it's a course and people
Speaker 3: can just grab it and use it and do it,
Speaker 3: I'm in. So I'm working on.
Speaker 1: Going to pat those together. Jen and I want to
Speaker 1: be deposit now.
Speaker 2: Just tell us what's your bed And I am so
Speaker 2: excited to see your holiday movie.
Speaker 3: You can go to my Instagram and you'll find it
Speaker 3: Christmas at Plumb Hill Manner. And then my podcast is
Speaker 3: He'll Squad, so you guys can always.
Speaker 2: Listen to them as well be listening.
Speaker 1: And I hope that I don't know, I feel so
Speaker 1: I don't want to put you on this weird pedestal
Speaker 1: and if people do that a lot, and I don't
Speaker 1: know if you would like that or not, but I'm
Speaker 1: just I know, Jackie, we both are just in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, it's like we're all humans, we all struggle.
Speaker 2: Nobody's I feel very much like my priorities get reset
Speaker 2: when I meet someone like you and I listened to
Speaker 2: you and you're very guyased. Yeah, and it's really been
Speaker 2: an honor to speak to you.
Speaker 3: Thank you guys, thank you so much. And if I
Speaker 3: can be helpful with your daughter with Type one. I
Speaker 3: learned to look at the equator, my blood sugar, you're
Speaker 3: going down. It was crazy, really, Oh my god. I
Speaker 3: was like lighting bread without having to take insulin. People
Speaker 3: heal from diabetes at the equator, people heal from MS Parkinson's.
Speaker 3: It's unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know anything about this.
Speaker 3: That's amazing.
Speaker 1: If you wouldn't mind, then off camera we're gonna have
Speaker 1: to have a little discussion because I would love to know.
Speaker 3: Well. Also, if you go to heel squad dot com,
Speaker 3: I took because Apple Podcasts doesn't organize the episodes that also,
Speaker 3: you can't really find what you need easily when you've
Speaker 3: done as many episodes as I have. But there's a
Speaker 3: column called foundational Health. There's one for autoimmune, there's one
Speaker 3: for cancer. Foundational Health. All those episodes will teach you
Speaker 3: everything that I did to heal the liver lesions and
Speaker 3: everything about the equator and how powerful it is. So
Speaker 3: you can deep dive on the episodes that are connected
Speaker 3: to specifically those themes on heel Squad dot com. They're
Speaker 3: called healthy.
Speaker 2: I think amazing. I was working. Yeah, thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Wish know only good things and everything and happy holidays,
Speaker 2: and I can't wait to watch Thanks Maria, Thank you Maria.
Speaker 1: That was unbelievable. I feel like so freaked out and
Speaker 1: not freaked out in the best way.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I like to see this woman who is again, you're
Speaker 1: probably the same age, right, I think she's a little
Speaker 1: bit younger. She looks so young and well.
Speaker 2: Her mindset is fucking amazing. I it makes me feel
Speaker 2: nervous because I don't pay attention to my health nearly
Speaker 2: as much.
Speaker 1: When she said she did that scan, I forget. I
Speaker 1: almost don't want to know. I'm very nervous. I know
Speaker 1: everyone else, but anyway she is and inspiration doesn't seem
Speaker 1: like I know.
Speaker 2: It's amazing. I want to have that guy on. To
Speaker 2: know yourself so well that someone could tell you that
Speaker 2: you might have. If someone ever said the words liver
Speaker 2: cancer to me, I would black out, and then my
Speaker 2: entire life, every focus of every second of every day
Speaker 2: would be about whether or not I.
Speaker 1: Have liver cancer.
Speaker 2: For her to intuitively know that it just doesn't feel
Speaker 2: like I have that is fucking mind blowing into me.
Speaker 2: How do you know yourself so well? I don't know.
Speaker 1: You know, Jack, I'm a reaching hypochondriac, so I always
Speaker 1: think I have everything, but I don't know. This woman
Speaker 1: is amazing. I am definitely gonna watch her and Jackie Jacqueline.
Speaker 1: Who's on Jackie Jackie? I know you got the name
Speaker 1: of the new doctor that we want on the pod,
Speaker 1: doctor Joe Dispensa.
Speaker 2: I would love that game. I need to learn how
Speaker 2: to do the things in life that I really authentically
Speaker 2: want to do, which a lot of them. Listen, some
Speaker 2: of the stuff I'm doing I do want to do,
Speaker 2: and I love every second with my family. Career wise,
Speaker 2: I'm not so sure what I really authentically want.
Speaker 1: It so easy, we both struggle, we both have mental
Speaker 1: health struggles. Yeah, and so yeah, nothing is easy. Everything
Speaker 1: is a journey. But yeah, I mean, I hope a
Speaker 1: ton of people listen to this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too, me too. All right, guys on that note,
Speaker 2: all right, we will see you next time.
Speaker 1: I love you, guys. You jack Let me go you guys. Bye.
Speaker 3: By