1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: We welcome in Josh Cobbs at the CEO of Restaurant 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: Brands International, to talk a little bit about what's going 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: on under the hood. And you look across the brands 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: here and there are some very striking moments here, for example, 5 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: with Burger King coming in less than expected at same 6 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: source sales comps. What do you think here, Josh, this 7 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: really means is this a matter of price pressures that 8 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 1: consumers are still feeling, or is this a matter of 9 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 1: some change in consumer preference that's layered on top of 10 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: this as well? 11 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 2: Hi Sinelli, Matt, thanks so much for having me. Good morning, 12 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,279 Speaker 2: and it's a pleasure to be on the show. So 13 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: we are seeing some softness in the consumer, especially in 14 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 2: some of our home markets, and you see that play 15 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 2: through in some of the data across the industry. That said, 16 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: we're really focused on having amazing value offerings for our 17 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 2: guests in each of the businesses, and I think we're 18 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 2: doing a pretty good job at that. At Burger Think King. 19 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 2: For the quarter, we had some incredible value offerings. We 20 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 2: had our five dollars year away meal, and we did 21 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: manage to outperform some of the largest players and the sector. 22 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 2: So I think we've got the right value for the customer, 23 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 2: and clearly they're looking for it. We're seeing a great 24 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 2: response to what we have out there, and one of 25 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 2: the things that we just shared this morning is we're 26 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 2: going to extend some of those value offerings, specifically our five. 27 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 3: Dollars year away meal now into October. 28 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 2: So we have the right value offerings, we think they're 29 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 2: working for the consumer, and we're going to keep those 30 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 2: going through later in the year. 31 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 4: But the key here, Josh, is that the consumer needs 32 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 4: cheaper products. Right. I've seen five dollars value offerings pop 33 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 4: up at a number of competing chains. Is this consumer 34 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 4: really under pressure? Can you see that in your sales? 35 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 2: So I think what the consumer wants is they want 36 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 2: all the basics of the industry. They want the quality products, 37 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 2: great service, and convenient modern locations. 38 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 3: Add a good value. 39 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 2: And what we always have to keep our eyes on 40 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 2: is doing all those things together. So we're focusing on 41 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: having the fundamentals right and in this environment, making sure 42 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 2: that we have the right value offerings, and we are 43 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 2: seeing a reaction to those value offerings. So some of 44 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,279 Speaker 2: the things we've had out there, like the five dollars 45 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 2: walk Virginior duos or our five dollars year wave meal. 46 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 2: They're getting a lot of traction for caper customers. So 47 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 2: we do see that guests are looking for things that 48 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 2: they can do to get great. 49 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 3: Value out of our sector. 50 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 2: They're reacting to what we have out there, and we 51 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 2: feel like we have the right offerings out there for 52 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 2: that right. 53 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 4: I understand you know that you are doing a good 54 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 4: job of giving the consumer what he or he wants. 55 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 4: But what I'm asking you is, from your vantage point 56 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 4: as the CEO of these brands that are so widely 57 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 4: accessed by the consumer, how does the consumer's financial health 58 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 4: look to you? 59 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 2: So we do see some pressure on the consumers. On 60 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 2: consumers overall financials, I think there are some things that 61 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 2: are putting pressure. So there are some things that are 62 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 2: going up in their budget, things like rents or insurance 63 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 2: payments are putting some pressure and that's causing consumers to 64 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 2: be more choiceful. And so how we see that is 65 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 2: we see consumers are choosing some of those value offerings 66 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 2: and in some cases they're attaching less sides. So those 67 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 2: are the behaviors that we see. We think that environment 68 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 2: is likely to continue through the rest of the year 69 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 2: and across each of our businesses, we're trying to make 70 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 2: sure that we have the right value offerings that cater 71 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 2: to the customer in that environmentetitive. 72 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: How competitive is it out there now, particularly in this 73 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: kind of value sector of food right now? If you 74 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: think about it, five dollars seems to be the sticking point. 75 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: You know, Taco Bell also had a five dollars deal 76 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: as well. Wendy's had a three dollar breakfast deal. When 77 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: you think about this five dollars BurgerKing deal that you 78 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: now are extending as you announced this morning, how important 79 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: is that price point right now and how competitive is 80 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: it among other brands. 81 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 2: So I do think that five dollars price point is 82 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 2: relevant to the consumers, and we see that in the 83 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 2: reaction that we're getting to it. And now you're seeing 84 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 2: more of our competitors bring that price point as well. 85 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: In fact, we've had great offerings at the five dollar 86 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 2: price point for a long time. 87 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 3: Now you've seen more of our competitors getting into the game. 88 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: Some of the other big competitors launched five dollars meals recently. 89 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 2: What's really interesting that we're seeing is that we think 90 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: that might actually be helpful to the sector overall as 91 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 2: you have more players bringing great value back to the consumers. 92 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 2: I think as a sector overall, we're starting to improve 93 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 2: the value impression of the restaurant sector with consumers. 94 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 3: And it's been really interesting. 95 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 2: Even as we've gone through the last month or two 96 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 2: and you've seen more of our competitors start to bring 97 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 2: into market and promote some of some more five dollars offerings, 98 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: we actually haven't seen any impact to our business. So 99 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 2: we've actually seen increasing adoption of those meals in our 100 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 2: business doing pretty well with them. So I think there 101 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 2: are some positive aspects of the amount of competition and 102 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 2: the amount of value that the sectors bring to the guests, 103 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 2: which they really seem to like you have. 104 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 3: A great vantage point. 105 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 4: Also to comment on the labor market, Josh, how do 106 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 4: you see the labor market right now in terms of supply. 107 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 4: We've seen the unemployment rate rise and economists are telling 108 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 4: us that's because there are more people in the labor 109 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 4: market at least that's part of the reason. Do you 110 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 4: see that or do your franchise e see that as well? 111 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 2: So I would say we've seen labor market condistionions be 112 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 2: a little bit warm benign today versus where we were 113 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 2: two years ago, and when we were in the height 114 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 2: of COVID, things were a little bit more challenging, and 115 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 2: that's eased a bit. So we've had more interest in 116 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 2: jobs in our sector, so that's made life a little 117 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 2: bit easier for our franchise ease. It's allowing us to 118 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 2: staff the restaurants better and to provide better service to 119 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 2: our guests, and I think those are all things that 120 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 2: help us a lot. 121 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 3: And that's mostly in the US. 122 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 2: Up in Canada, there has been a little bit more 123 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 2: pressure on unemployment, so the unemployment rates ticked up in 124 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,239 Speaker 2: a little bit bigger way up up here in Canada. 125 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 2: But our business up here has been doing great. I'm 126 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 2: here in Toronto today in our Tim Horton's test kitchen, 127 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 2: and we just reported almost five percent same store sales 128 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 2: in our Tim Wharton's business, which is tremendous even in 129 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 2: a challenging environment. 130 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 3: So Canada's a little bit different. 131 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 2: But in the US, less change and unemployment recently, Josh. 132 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 1: You know, my colleague here, Matt Miller, really wants to 133 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: start using wagabi or ozambag and he talks about it daily. Actually, 134 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: these days. You know, when you look at these weight 135 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: loss drugs that are entering the market at more and 136 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: more scale, how do you think that's going to impact 137 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: your brands moving forward? 138 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, we haven't seen any impact so far. I know 139 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 2: there's been a lot of talk about it in the 140 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 2: press and the investor world, but we really haven't seen 141 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 2: any impact from any. 142 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 3: Of the weight lift laws drugs so far. 143 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 2: I'd say we're much more focused on getting the basics 144 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 2: right and bringing the right value to our customers, even 145 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 2: in terms of the offerings. 146 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 4: Because we had a great big take story today on 147 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 4: you know, the weight loss drug use in Bowling Green, 148 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 4: and one of the protagonists in the story was saying, 149 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 4: I just want more chicken because you need to get 150 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 4: more protein. Right. So do you not see people choosing 151 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 4: the higher protein items on your menu as a result 152 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 4: of using these drugs. 153 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 2: I think just because of where the adoption rates are, 154 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,799 Speaker 2: and I think there's still low in the overall population 155 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 2: so far, we don't see it playing out in our 156 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 2: aggregate data in the way that we. 157 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 3: Can see yet. 158 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 4: All Right, Josh, thanks so much for joining us. Josh 159 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 4: cobbsa there of Restaurant Brands International,