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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast.

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Speaker 2: On this Memorial Day, a day when we honor those

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Speaker 2: who lost their lives overseas or in service of some

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Speaker 2: sort for our country, and today we wanted to bring

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Speaker 2: on the mother of Petty Officer second Class Scottie Wortz.

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Speaker 2: He was a US Navy seal and he lost his

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Speaker 2: life when he was serving our country over in Syria.

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Speaker 2: And I wanted to just go through with Sandy a

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Speaker 2: little bit about who Scotty was and then what life

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Speaker 2: is like as someone who goes out and advocates for

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Speaker 2: families and for our country. And so Sandy Wurtz is

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Speaker 2: with me today. Sandy, welcome to the podcast. Thank you,

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Speaker 2: thank you, thank you so much for joining us today.

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of people get confused sometimes about

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Speaker 2: Memorial Day, and they think it's just a day to

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Speaker 2: kind of celebrate the country or celebrate people who have

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Speaker 2: served the country. But it is really a day where

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Speaker 2: we honor those those who made the ultimate sacrifice to

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Speaker 2: defend our country.

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Speaker 3: That's very true.

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Speaker 4: And I recently saw a post on Facebook. It talked

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Speaker 4: about Memorial Day and the barbecues and the parties and

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Speaker 4: they get togethers and this was pointed out the fact

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Speaker 4: that the reason that you are at these barbecues and

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Speaker 4: that you can celebrate is because there are those who

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Speaker 4: are supposed to be remembered on Memorial Day. That made

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Speaker 4: that all possible for you, and I thought it was

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Speaker 4: a wonderful post that would make people think about the

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Speaker 4: real purpose of Memorial Day, which seems to have been

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Speaker 4: lost over the years.

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Speaker 1: It's true.

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Speaker 2: I think it's important for us as parents to sit

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Speaker 2: down with our kids and have that discussion. And I

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Speaker 2: actually said to my girls the other day, Hey, this

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Speaker 2: weekend is coming up. Do you fully understand why we

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Speaker 2: get to have time together as a family, why we

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Speaker 2: get to do this?

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Speaker 1: And so we went through that lesson.

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Speaker 2: I think it's important for all families to really discuss

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Speaker 2: the uniqueness of America. That we are this superpower, but

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Speaker 2: that power only comes from humans who make this choice

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Speaker 2: to serve us in this way, and your son was

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Speaker 2: one of those. Actually, I want to mention that we've

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Speaker 2: had John Turnbull on Major John Turnbull on this program

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Speaker 2: before John introduced us, because Scotty was with him the

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Speaker 2: day that John was injured in the accident and three

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Speaker 2: others lost their lives.

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Speaker 1: You know John very well, don't you.

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Speaker 3: I sure do. John has become my other son.

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Speaker 2: He speaks so highly of you. So Scotty was your

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Speaker 2: only child, correct, Yes, he was. Tell us a little

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Speaker 2: bit about him.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think I was very blessed, which I learned

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Speaker 4: later in life, to have such a good boy. He

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Speaker 4: was never any trouble when he was growing up. He

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Speaker 4: was very adventuresome, he was very happy. He was very

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Speaker 4: eager to take risks, and that led to him coming

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Speaker 4: home one day and saying, I think I'm going to

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Speaker 4: be a Navy seal.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: That hard to hear though.

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Speaker 4: You know, at the time the seals were known, but

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Speaker 4: not as well known.

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Speaker 3: And you know, also as.

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Speaker 4: A mom, you understand you don't want to discourage your

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Speaker 4: you know how many hair brained ideas they come up.

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Speaker 3: With, you know, do that?

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Speaker 4: So and he was still in you know, he was

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Speaker 4: and he talked to the recruiters and he went into

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Speaker 4: the army, and I mean into the excuse me, into

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Speaker 4: the Navy. And even with that, you don't become a

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Speaker 4: Navy seal. And I remember him I'm going to be

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Speaker 4: a Navy seal. I'm going to be a Navy seal.

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Speaker 4: And I remember saying to him, you know, Scott, I

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Speaker 4: just want you to understand that if you don't make

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Speaker 3: Get out of the navy.

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Speaker 4: You know, you better have a backup plan because and

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Speaker 4: he was like, no, Mom, I'm going to be a

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Speaker 4: Navy seal. And I'll never forget that phone call the

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Speaker 4: very early on a Sunday morning when he completed BUDS

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Speaker 4: and he just called and said, Mom.

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Speaker 3: I did it.

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Speaker 1: Oh that was so cool.

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Speaker 4: And I was really proud that he had the confidence

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Speaker 4: grit to get it done and do it.

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Speaker 1: And he actually deployed what over twenty times, didn't he?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was.

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Speaker 4: He was actually in service for over twenty two years.

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Speaker 4: The first eight of those years he was in the

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Speaker 4: Navy as a seal. But as he said to me

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Speaker 4: one day, Mom, I've got skills and I'm not being used.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to get out and I'm going to be

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Speaker 4: a contractor.

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Speaker 3: And at the time, if you.

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Speaker 4: Recall, contractors were known for paying a lot of money

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Speaker 4: and trying to recruit these boys, and I said's guy,

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Speaker 4: please tell me you're not doing this for money. And

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Speaker 4: that's when he said, Mom, I've got skills, and I've

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Speaker 3: To attain those skills, and I want to use them.

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Speaker 3: And so then he pursued the rest of his career.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's something.

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Speaker 2: I mean, even when we spoke with John, and then

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Speaker 2: when I've spoken to John since, it's fascinating to me

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Speaker 2: because I think there's nobody that I've spoken to that

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Speaker 2: has as much passionate about what they do and helping

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Speaker 2: other people than these folks who serve the country, which

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Speaker 2: obviously is a natural expectation for someone who's given of

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Speaker 2: that they would continue. But just that I think that's

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Speaker 2: something that young people today need to hear. Your story

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Speaker 2: is so powerful that he was recruited in high school

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Speaker 2: and then he kept saying, I've got skills that need

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Speaker 2: to be used, and the things that they saw over there,

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Speaker 2: they were not easy. He chose to go over there

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Speaker 2: as a contractor and help to build schools, to get

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Speaker 2: people back to support these missions. So it wasn't like

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he was still a very active part of

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Speaker 4: that intelligence community that is doing their part and identifying

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Speaker 4: care of. And that's how I ended up with John

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Speaker 4: turnbook on that last mission.

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Speaker 2: For those of us who are celebrating with families and

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Speaker 2: weekend and today, how do we talk to them about

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Speaker 2: what it's like when your son was deployed. What for

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Speaker 2: those of us who don't have people that are that

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Speaker 2: of not only the fact that you're excited and you

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Speaker 2: are proud and this is something amazing, but also kind

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Speaker 2: of what are the daily stresses too?

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I heard it compared one time to.

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Speaker 4: Their desire and need to be deployed. It's like training

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Speaker 3: And never getting But I can remember.

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Speaker 4: Scotty being really excited about going and doing his job,

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Speaker 4: and I remember when he was coming home, I would

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Speaker 3: And you've probably heard about about Colonel Jack.

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Speaker 4: Scotty sent me a text and he said, I can't

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Speaker 3: Because Jack's retired.

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Speaker 4: Air Force Vietnam era fighter pilot, so they had that

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Speaker 4: common bound. But it really is a double edged sword

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Speaker 4: because as a parent, there's nothing more of it than

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Speaker 3: And Scotty was happy.

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Speaker 4: He loved what he did, and obviously from the I

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Speaker 4: have skills, I want to use him. He was dedicated

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Speaker 4: to focus on when he left, but every time he left,

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Speaker 4: I just thought, is this the last time? So that

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Speaker 4: you know, I tried to stay positive, and you know,

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Speaker 4: he helped it be positive because he was so happy

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Speaker 4: And of course I never said anything to him about

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Speaker 2: My generation growing up, when we heard about people who

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Speaker 2: my parents' friends who had gone over, and they were

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Speaker 2: What is it like today when you have someone over there?

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Speaker 2: Is the communication more free flowing? Are you able to

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Speaker 3: Well, I have a story I'd like to tell you.

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Speaker 4: On January sixteenth of twenty nineteen, I was driving in

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Speaker 3: I knew Scotty was in Syria, so I stopped.

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Speaker 4: The car and I texted them, and then I went

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Speaker 3: So I got back home and no response. So I

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Speaker 4: You know, we never talked that off von text. So

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Speaker 4: I said, yeah, I just checking in, just like to

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Speaker 3: He's busy. There's been a bombing in Syria. And it's funny.

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Speaker 4: When I look back, how your mind plays these tricks.

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Speaker 3: It was on five o'clock news, no names. Of course,

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Speaker 4: well I always laugh and not laugh, but when people

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Speaker 3: You find out?

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Speaker 4: And I said, I was listening to Brian Kill Me

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Speaker 4: I had that. And one other time, Scotty had a

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Speaker 4: job with the CIA and.

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Speaker 3: He was on a shop and.

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Speaker 4: He had posted some Facebook photos of him fishing and

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Speaker 4: and I was really upset with him. And then he

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Speaker 4: think you were using your head. He said, Mom, what

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Speaker 4: And he said, Mom, that whole ship, the whole bottom

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Speaker 2: That is such an inspiring story on a day where

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Speaker 5: And it is just it's so important to be able

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Speaker 4: Know, there's the Navy Steal Foundation, Carry the Load, another organization,

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Speaker 4: And Carry the Load does a cross country walk and bus,

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Speaker 2: Well, and maybe that's what we need to be talking

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Speaker 4: It's really a wonderful organization and again carry the load.

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Speaker 3: They do wonderful things.

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Speaker 4: There is another organization in Saint Louis called Flags of Valor.

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Speaker 2: And just like all of us who have lost someone

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Speaker 2: After this with Sandywurtz, before I let you go, I

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Speaker 4: And from the time he was a toddler, he was

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Speaker 4: A couple of years later, I'm looking at these videos

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00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 4: and I was like, what kind of a mother was I?

446
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Speaker 3: I mean.

447
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:21,400
Speaker 1: A good mother.

448
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,919
Speaker 3: Slay hurt and I'm going, oh, good job, Scott. And

449
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 3: then we had a final good laugh when.

450
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 4: He called me one time and he said, to watch

451
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 4: the news today. He said, yeah, he said, to see

452
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 4: where Tony haff bought.

453
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,919
Speaker 3: His mom a million dollar house. I said, yeah, I

454
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 3: saw it. That could have been me, Mom, could.

455
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 1: Have been me. It's hilarious.

456
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 3: You're better off.

457
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,479
Speaker 4: But yes, as he as he grew older, another thing

458
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 4: and I thank God for this today.

459
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 3: But Scotty never said ay for money, never had money.

460
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 3: I mean here he is in the Navy and his.

461
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 4: Dad and I had to buy his tickets to come

462
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 4: home for Christmas because he didn't.

463
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 3: Have any money. And of course he didn't say that

464
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 3: until two days before knows what the tickets were twice

465
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 3: as much. But I remember one time he called.

466
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,199
Speaker 4: Me and he said, Mom, You're not going to believe this,

467
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 4: but I am going deep sea fishing in the Canary

468
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 4: Islands and the prime week of the year, August second,

469
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 4: I'm going and he's talking about all this stuff, and again,

470
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 4: as his mother, I'm thinking, I wonder how much this costs.

471
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 4: And then he's talking about the boat or the ship

472
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 4: or whatever.

473
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 3: And I said, so do you sleep on the boat.

474
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 3: Oh no, we got to get a hotel. But boy,

475
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 3: we got this really great place to say. So again

476
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 3: the dollar signs. I'm like, oh my gosh. And he

477
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 3: told me one time and then he finally said, and

478
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 3: it's only three thousand dollars. Got three thousand dollars for

479
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 3: one week.

480
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Speaker 4: And then his jeep, his his jeep. He bought it

481
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 4: when he was in high school. He got a job

482
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Speaker 4: and he bought a nineteen This was in ninety three.

483
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 4: He bought a cheap It was a nineteen eighty five

484
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Speaker 4: Wrangler or something.

485
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:00,439
Speaker 2: Too.

486
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 3: Is everlasting credit because.

487
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 4: His mom or dad neither one have a technical bone

488
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 4: in their body. But he rebuilt this jeep and then

489
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 4: over the years he would have it repainted. Well, I

490
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 4: call me one time and he's like, mom, I sent

491
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 4: my jeep to Colorado. I said, what for a complete

492
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:23,199
Speaker 4: overhaul makeover? And again, you know, he's telling me all

493
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 4: about the great things.

494
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 3: And then I said, so, I'm like colors. Does this cost?

495
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 3: He said, Mom, it's one hundred thousand dollars. I said,

496
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Speaker 3: good grapes, got you. I read that. Not to worry, mom.

497
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Speaker 4: They are always looking for jeeps like this to be

498
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 4: in the movies. One movie and the jeep will be

499
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 4: paid for. Well, of course, never made the movies, but

500
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 4: the jeep still is around today. Sold it to one

501
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 4: of his friends for a dollar to hang on to him,

502
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 4: so that they were going to ship.

503
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Speaker 3: It to Thailand. But it was it was always the money.

504
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 4: And as you can well imagine as I look back

505
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 4: on that now, thank god, he had such a good

506
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Speaker 4: time and good life.

507
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 3: And the final about the money was when he was

508
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 3: in Syria, they found a dog and he.

509
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 4: They just knew him and his buddy. They just knew

510
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,959
Speaker 4: this was a special dog. And so they were going

511
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 4: to and of course it was starting and everything, so

512
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 4: it ranged hard to go to the ASPCA in Iraq

513
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,919
Speaker 4: and he's telling me the story, and you know, the

514
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,959
Speaker 4: dog came back. They weren't happy with it, so they

515
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 4: sent it back and they said, this dog has got

516
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 4: to be good. We're sending it back to America. And

517
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 4: the whole time, I'm like, oh my gosh, how much

518
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:37,880
Speaker 4: is this costing?

519
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 3: Because they had to.

520
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 4: Arrange for it to be on the helicopter, their helicopter

521
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 4: to go. And I remember that the commander had told

522
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Speaker 4: them get rid of the dog, and they were hiding

523
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 4: the dog. The only time the dog would bark is

524
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Speaker 4: when the commander walked in. So he finally, you know,

525
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 4: they got the doc and the commander said, if you

526
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 4: don't get rid of the dog, we're gonna shoot it,

527
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 4: you know. So they're arranging descended away and then the

528
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 4: final note was the commander comes in and says, can

529
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 4: you please tell me why this dog's name is on

530
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 4: the flight manifest to go to the So they had

531
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 4: finally gotten caught, and they.

532
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 3: All admitted to it.

533
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 4: But all the time I didn't know how much it costs,

534
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 4: and I couldn't believe it. The DA wrote that story

535
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 4: about Stewie the dog in their monthly little booklet newsletter,

536
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 4: and I'm reading this story and it said and work

537
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,679
Speaker 4: spent thirty eight hundred dollars on that dog, And I thought, oh,

538
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 4: I knew someday.

539
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 3: I was going to find out that costs.

540
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: So eventually he got caught by you as well.

541
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, yes, but you know, just other things. He

542
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 3: was well, and this relates to me.

543
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 4: But I was in San Diego and I was an

544
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 4: event planner and I was running this event. In the

545
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 4: weight staff at the hotel all had their name tags

546
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 4: and their countries on it, and they were all from Brazil.

547
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 4: So I said to this group of young kids, I said,

548
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 4: any of you ever heard of Anderson Silva And they're like, oh,

549
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 4: Anderson Silva. Do you know Anderson Silva? And I said, no,

550
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 4: I don't. Anyway, Anderson silver it was the top MMA

551
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 4: wrestler in the world for many many years.

552
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,959
Speaker 3: Well, good old Scotty. He figures out a way to

553
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 3: get to Brazil and train with him, and he's going

554
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 3: to do and that was his MMA fight that he won.

555
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 3: You don't have to broadcast this, but it was the

556
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 3: only fight he ever did. So that's really that's why

557
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 3: you don't have to stay that part. I like the

558
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 3: other part.

559
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 4: But anyway, these kids were like totally excited that they

560
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 4: kept thinking I knew Anderson Silva and I explained it

561
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 4: to you. I said, no, my son wrestled with him. Well,

562
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 4: the next day I go down to the meeting and

563
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 4: there must have been ten or twelve of these young

564
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Speaker 4: kids there and I walk into the area and they go,

565
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 4: we heard you know Anderson Silva And I said no, no,

566
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 4: I said.

567
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Speaker 2: I do not.

568
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 3: But I used to laugh and I said's got it.

569
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Speaker 3: You made me famous.

570
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 4: You know, these kids left me and one other story,

571
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 4: and I'm probably taking too much time. I was in

572
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 4: the business aviation industry for like thirty thirty five years,

573
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 4: so I knew a lot of people and it's a

574
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 4: big industry. We were having an event at the Sheridan

575
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 4: Hotel in San Diego, which is right next to the airport,

576
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 4: right across from the base where they keep the ships

577
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 4: and stuff. Well, it was baseball season and the Seal

578
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 4: parachute team we're going to parachute into the baseball stadium

579
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 4: in downtown San Diego, and so we had lunch outside

580
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 4: that day and here goes the Navy Seal parachuters and

581
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 4: they're all going and they're practicing. It was so funny

582
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 4: because after it was over, some of the guys came

583
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 4: up to me and they said, Sandy, did you arrange them?

584
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 4: And I was like, no, I would certainly like to

585
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 4: take credit for it, but no, I did not arrange.

586
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 3: That but Scotty and I had so many laughs over things.

587
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 4: I mean, because at the time, Navy seals weren't as

588
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 4: televised or promoted, or you didn't know about him.

589
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, no, I didn't.

590
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 2: You're right about that, because you didn't hear about him until, like,

591
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 2: I don't know, Issama Bin Lauden or something.

592
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty much. So yeah.

593
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,959
Speaker 2: So anyway, well, we are so glad that you shared

594
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 2: Scotty's life with us today. Honestly, that is what today

595
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 2: is all about, for us to look back at these

596
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 2: amazing people. I think that based on some of the

597
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 2: stories you told, I think that Scotty and I would

598
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 2: probably today be the very close in age because I

599
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 2: recognized a lot of that stuff from my childhood. He

600
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 2: sounds like he was an incredibly fun guy.

601
00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 4: He you know, in retrospect, I can only say that

602
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 4: I can look, I can thank God for my blessing

603
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 4: because Scott is he was healthy, He lived a great life.

604
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 4: And there are so many others out there whose children

605
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 4: whose boys.

606
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 3: Were killed in training. They were in their journals, they

607
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 3: were never.

608
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 4: Able to even be a Navy seal and do the

609
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 4: job that Scotty got to do.

610
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 3: You know, Scotty was forty two years old, so he

611
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 3: was able to live life.

612
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 4: I was able to raise a child into adulthood.

613
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 3: So you kind of have to look back and.

614
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 4: Count your blessings and realize that there are so many

615
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 4: that weren't, so many mobs that didn't get to.

616
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 3: Have what I had.

617
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 2: Oh, you are so blessed with these beautiful stories and

618
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 2: these beautiful memories. But just so you are aware, you

619
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Speaker 2: are a blessing to us, and I think you are

620
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 2: a blessing to the entire United States of America. And

621
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Speaker 2: that's today. What today is all about is for us

622
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 2: to say to you, thank you, thank you for what

623
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 2: you've given to us. You are a blessing.

624
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 4: Well, and thank you, and thank you for teaching your

625
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 4: kids the meaning of this day and for setting an

626
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 4: example for other parents.

627
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 3: To teach their kids about what today.

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Speaker 2: Is all about. Absolutely, Sandy Wurtz, thank you and thank

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Speaker 2: you all for listening to us here on the Tutor

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Speaker 2: Dixon podcast. You heard all those places that she mentioned. Honestly, today,

631
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Speaker 2: take a moment, step aside, look up some places that

632
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 2: you can help, you can give to, that you can

633
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 2: support for these folks who have given so much to

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Speaker 2: make sure that they have all the support that they

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Speaker 2: need on this Memorial Day. Thank you so much for listening.

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Speaker 2: Make sure you check out Tutor disonpodcast dot com. You

637
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Speaker 2: can subscribe right there, or head over to the iHeartRadio app,

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Speaker 2: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts, and have

639
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Speaker 2: a blessed Memorial Day.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, m