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Speaker 3: It's snowing out here. We got. We got a good one.

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Speaker 3: My brother.

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Speaker 1: First of all, before we even shout him out, he's

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the show, Tim Thomas, appreciate you t ninety

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Speaker 3: six in this motherfuckers six. Yeah, nigga, that was just that?

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Speaker 3: Is that? Is that the double shot? I'm just yeah,

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Speaker 3: it kicked in instantly.

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Speaker 4: You mean.

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Speaker 3: Ninety six is bit.

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Speaker 1: Jack ninety six All jokes aside, ninety six is arguably

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Speaker 1: one of the best classes you know, the league has seen.

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Speaker 1: When did you first hear about Tim Thomas and see

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Speaker 2: Good question, man. I first heard about Tim Thomas in

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Speaker 2: the tenth grade.

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Speaker 3: I was just the first time.

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Speaker 1: You're in the tenth grader, second time, first this, first time,

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Speaker 1: the first time, first time, you always I love it

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Speaker 1: the first time, and I was doing a lot of

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Speaker 1: Nike accounts, but I was getting the chance. I got

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to go play at the DDAs and well

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Speaker 1: to go, not even play, just to go. And that's

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Speaker 1: why I've seen all the players that was ahead of me,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I seen, I knew Jermaine,

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Speaker 1: but I got Chancey, Tim, I got Chaancy, Tracy, I

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Speaker 2: You know what I said before I actually played against him,

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Speaker 2: and I went home with my confidence shot. I can't

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I'm working on my back and getting my handle together

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Speaker 2: at sixth eight, So you know they was he was

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Speaker 2: just he was just one of those guys that him

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Speaker 2: and Jermaine o'nill and Kobe like those guys were guaranteed

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Speaker 2: went out the eleventh grade.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Tim, obviously your versatility, I feel like it was ahead

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Speaker 1: But before we even get to that, was you getting

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Speaker 4: either some type of deal shoe brands, right, So it

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Speaker 4: was either I was Adidas baby, so it was either

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Speaker 4: My high school was sponsored by Adidas, So when you

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Speaker 4: look at it in hindsight, it was you know, but.

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Speaker 1: Outside of that was you because I mean, I know,

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Speaker 3: Nah?

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Speaker 4: So I went to a Nike school. Okay, So I

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Speaker 4: But that was one of the reasons why I also

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Speaker 4: it was nothing tricky about it, you know what I'm say,

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Speaker 4: So it was the last six eleven three guard six

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Speaker 3: You're talking about small four maybe.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Kevin, I'm trying to think who whoever played three now?

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Speaker 3: But back then? Who was mellow?

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Speaker 3: Mellow six? That's my height.

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Speaker 1: That's normal to be the wing though, But you're normally

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Speaker 3: Where? Did I mean talk to us about your upbringing?

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Speaker 3: It about your game? And I know you you grew fast.

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Speaker 1: Like you was a big motherfucker early talked us about

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Speaker 4: Yeah. So I grew up in Passed, some New Jersey.

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Speaker 4: We had guys like Roy Sparrow, DW. White, Wilbur James Scott,

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Speaker 4: I had a chance to watch them, right and then

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Speaker 4: I was trying to find those guys. They was at

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Speaker 3: How were you with this age? Like I was?

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Speaker 4: I was eleven twelve, and you know, yeah I was.

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Speaker 4: I was a short. I had a growth spurt like

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Speaker 3: You don't want to so you didn't want to be telling.

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Speaker 4: Cause I had it. I had everything.

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Speaker 4: I got a family full of people that drink coffee,

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Speaker 3: About it growing. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: So I started drinking coffee. Man, try to stop my

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Speaker 1: With me, right yeah, right, speak to us about Sunny Vicarro.

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Speaker 1: Was that your Adida's guy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Sonny was Sonny. Sonny was that guy. So I

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Speaker 4: Matt Cole, Uh, I'm gonna blak. Jermaine was first there.

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Speaker 4: It was a bunch of us Man, Antoine Walker and

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Speaker 1: Sonny's a great dude. I mean Sonny early on, and

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Speaker 1: that meant everything stamped.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So he can tell, you know, a college coach, he

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Speaker 3: We had a relationship with all of us.

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Speaker 2: Like I'm gonna go tell you how great crazy relationship

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Speaker 2: was I come out of We graduated ninety six. They

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Speaker 2: But I bounced around a little bit when I first

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Speaker 2: giving you a six year Adidas deal. You know what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying. I fell off the map for a minute,

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. But he don't forget his people. Now, Sonny,

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Speaker 2: don't forget his people. Have you guys had Sonny up here? No,

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Speaker 2: We got to ask the question. Say we have a

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Speaker 4: That's gonna be. Look being a businessman, I am. I

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Speaker 3: You know, they gotta hear a story.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, espefter seeing air and then everyone everyone. I've

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Speaker 3: Son of a Carrol, not Sonny Hill. Whoa nah? He

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Speaker 3: the reason why I lost the All Star Championship.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember McDonald's.

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Speaker 3: Philly.

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Speaker 4: Got to get to know o g is good. People

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Speaker 4: did wrong Philly. Philly is like my second home. That

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Speaker 3: And he screwed. He took the m v P from Yeah,

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Speaker 4: That is doll.

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Speaker 3: That's his baby that was in the house. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 4: I can't be by his you know, SHOs you know

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Speaker 4: doing this thing. That's my brother in Jersey. You know,

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Speaker 4: have a good game. You know what's funny? Was you

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Speaker 4: know we talked about it. Yeah, we asked.

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Speaker 3: We asked Cold Coke thought Jack on the m v P.

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Speaker 4: He should have He should have.

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Speaker 2: Cold was second person. I was right and and but

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Speaker 2: That said that, though not thirteen to fifteen, it's the

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Speaker 4: I didn't go Cod went thirteen. Charlotte made the trade

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Speaker 2: And I'm just gonna say this, just my opinion. You

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Speaker 1: How you say the school name, Paramus Catholic. Paramus Catholic

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Speaker 4: I've been doing it for twenty seven years, you program.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Tim Thomas players, that's something you've been you said

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Speaker 4: I had the Adidas deal and then you know in

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Speaker 3: So any pros come through there, twenty eight.

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Speaker 4: Of them go on to Instagram, Tim Thomas players, twenty

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Speaker 4: That for sure, That's been blessed and blessed.

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Speaker 1: Every year, millions of people fill out a bracket for

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Speaker 2: This one thing that people don't know about the McDonald's game.

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Speaker 2: We had a practice and saying you remember this, and

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Speaker 2: We're supposed to be going through a walkthrough, walk a

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Speaker 4: I'm like, Bro, it's a walk through. I'm flying, like,

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Speaker 2: but the scrimmage is crazy, Yeah.

441
00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:33,360
Speaker 3: It was.

442
00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:34,040
Speaker 4: It was tough.

443
00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,040
Speaker 2: We knew we was gonna beat the West. I'm sorry

444
00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:38,000
Speaker 2: just going to say that.

445
00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,240
Speaker 3: Bro. We had the top three players on our team.

446
00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:43,600
Speaker 3: How could we lose?

447
00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:44,400
Speaker 4: Yeah?

448
00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,600
Speaker 2: We had Kobe, Jermaine and Tim bro. It was no

449
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,400
Speaker 2: way we was losing that game. We end up winning

450
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,920
Speaker 2: by twenty. Clo wasn't even close. I let the game

451
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,120
Speaker 2: of scoring because they was watching them three right around

452
00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,760
Speaker 2: team on the West. He was hitting him with the

453
00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:01,280
Speaker 2: in and out every time. He Mike, Mike, don't want

454
00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,320
Speaker 2: to talk about that, but it's on film. He came

455
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:08,680
Speaker 2: down every play in my line and was the ship

456
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 2: out of Mic every play, every play. And that's why

457
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 2: it looked like he won every because he was fucking

458
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:14,440
Speaker 2: Mic up.

459
00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 4: Shot was difficult. Shot was difficult. I had to play

460
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,880
Speaker 4: against him in high school, you know, where he had

461
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,480
Speaker 4: just free reign. Like actually we just played his high

462
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 4: school last night. Lost to his high school last night.

463
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 4: Saint Pat shout out to them. But he was vicious man.

464
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 4: He was a dog. And that's why all of his

465
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,480
Speaker 4: his college teams played just like him. They have that

466
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 4: that personality, and that's what I'm trying to you know,

467
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:38,119
Speaker 4: still in two kids.

468
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:44,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely was what exactly is the greatest team ever assembled,

469
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,320
Speaker 2: Tim Kobe Vincent ripped a team a.

470
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:53,439
Speaker 4: You oh yeah, by far? I mean, listen, I was,

471
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:58,880
Speaker 4: you know, just trying to establish myself, right. I had

472
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,239
Speaker 4: no chance. I had know, like real thought that you know,

473
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,720
Speaker 4: Rip would come up from Philly to play with me,

474
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 4: a guy from Florida and e Vince Carter will come

475
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,160
Speaker 4: up to Jersey to play with me. A guy by

476
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 4: the name of Kobe Bryant would come to Jersey and play.

477
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 3: With him and rivals.

478
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, a guy by the name of Kevin Freeman, you know,

479
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:24,159
Speaker 4: would come by, right, you know and play with me.

480
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,680
Speaker 4: We had Edmund Saunders. We had Anthony Perry that went

481
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,679
Speaker 4: to he went to GEORGIAWN but he went to he

482
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 4: played at St. Anthony's. So we had a we had

483
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 4: a bunch of studs, right and you know, there's a

484
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,399
Speaker 4: clip I got to send it to you guys. But Kobe,

485
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 4: you know, he mentioned it were beating people bout fifty

486
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 4: sixty points. Weird. The reason why, like now, when you

487
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 4: go to like some of these AU events or some

488
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 4: of these high school events that they're playing in college

489
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,439
Speaker 4: you know, gyms and stuff like that. We won. We

490
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,159
Speaker 4: won back to back AU national championships and we was

491
00:22:55,200 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 4: playing at you know, universities Florida, so down. Yeah. Church

492
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 4: real was that there was nobody on the East Coast

493
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 4: that could do anything that was good. It was good,

494
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 4: don't they was good. I'm not gonna say.

495
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 3: Those names right there.

496
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 2: You want to tell them what was on the church,

497
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 2: the him, But I'm just the greatest team though. Yeah,

498
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 2: but that on the same time, same years. There's the document, you.

499
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 4: Can look it up. It's still there. We're still on

500
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:27,120
Speaker 4: the list.

501
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 3: It's number one. There was number one. But that Church

502
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 3: team was scary too.

503
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 4: That there was a lot of great teams like that

504
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 4: that you know, salute to all of them. But you

505
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,479
Speaker 4: got just think of the times, like think about what

506
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 4: you've seen with Vince. Vince was I was. I was

507
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:47,640
Speaker 4: witnessing Vince doing that early. Yeah, the world calling on later? Yeah,

508
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 4: yeah like that. We was like, how when he came

509
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 4: up to play with us?

510
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 1: How can you see the stuff you see like all

511
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 1: the little mixtapes that have now if there was a

512
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 1: social media era back when.

513
00:23:58,119 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 3: That team was together.

514
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:00,399
Speaker 4: Crazy.

515
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I'm still seeing his old old mixtapes, Like

516
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 1: can you imagine this in high school? Rount see nothing

517
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 1: like this in high school right now? No, I don't

518
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 1: even see it like in college and barely in the pros.

519
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 2: Parent told the story about Kobe wanted to kill you

520
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 2: doing a game when you were sixteen. You know, we

521
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 2: all know Kobe had to kill this and you definitely

522
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 2: was on there. Jay A was on there, Rip was

523
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 2: on there.

524
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 4: Did he ever talk to you about that now, I mean,

525
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,919
Speaker 4: I know the game that that Rip was talking about.

526
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 4: So that was our junior year. I went back because

527
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 4: baseball was my first love before I started growing. So

528
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 4: my junior year I went back and played baseball. I

529
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 4: did the Michael Jordans went back and played baseball cole

530
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,679
Speaker 4: that year. Cob and Rip went back to play with

531
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 4: the Philly team. And right, so obviously you meet in

532
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,120
Speaker 4: all these different circuits. So I told the guys, I said,

533
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 4: we're both us in in this, in this one circuit together.

534
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 4: So I said, listen, if you guys make it to

535
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,199
Speaker 4: the championship game, I'll dry down now and play. But

536
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 4: I'm still in baseball season. So they made it to

537
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 4: the championship game, and it's just so happened to be

538
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 4: Cob and Rip. And that's the game that Cod I

539
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 4: mean that Rip is talling about. So the game was

540
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,640
Speaker 4: in Maryland at the University of Maryland. I just told

541
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,120
Speaker 4: you we was playing at these these colleges. The game

542
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 4: was there, So I drove from Jersey to Maryland. I

543
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 4: got there the end of the first Cob already had

544
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,120
Speaker 4: like fifteen right, so now I'm behind the eight ball

545
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 4: with an assassthing like that, what are you gonna do? Right?

546
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 4: So I'm already behind the eight ball, right so I

547
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 4: walk in like Sheppard, like, I'm just right out the car,

548
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 4: Like I walk right in right from the car. Right there,

549
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 4: I'm right on the court. So I'm playing ketchup. So

550
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 4: Cole probably finished the game with forty something. I probably

551
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 4: finished the game with thirty something. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

552
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 4: that's how the game went. They won the game. That's

553
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 4: how it went.

554
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 3: You know.

555
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,679
Speaker 4: So we don't play the same position, right, so the

556
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,120
Speaker 4: matchups were probably never going to match up against each other.

557
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 4: And then our senior year in high school, because we

558
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 4: was both number one, number two in the country, two

559
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 4: hours away from each other, everyone was trying to make

560
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 4: a game, you know, that high school game and asg

561
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,959
Speaker 4: wanted it at the time, the Meadowlands where you played,

562
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 4: they wanted it. In the university would have took it.

563
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 4: You know, we just couldn't make the game. You know,

564
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 4: Cole played, he played Saint Anthony's in Jersey more than

565
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 4: he would. I never played against him my high school,

566
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 4: but he played Saint Anthony's I think twice or three times,

567
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 4: you know, from.

568
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 2: And you see how these high school games being televised.

569
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,919
Speaker 2: These they just had Thomas Kobe Bryant.

570
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 4: So you know, mellow, mellow and Lebron was the first ones.

571
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 4: I would have been probably me and Cole ok Okill.

572
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 3: Yeah.

573
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 2: I had the same type of feeling when I saw

574
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,679
Speaker 2: you and I saw you playing like he in high school,

575
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 2: the same age and he doing that. E Jail even

576
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 2: has said that when he saw you, who was it

577
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 2: anybody that when you first seen him being most people

578
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 2: being all when they see you at your size, and

579
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 2: have you ever seen somebody like damn, I ain't like

580
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 2: playing when you first got an NBA Like, Damn, I ain't.

581
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 4: I thought I was tall first in the NBA.

582
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, when she first got in the league.

583
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 4: Hey, listen, my my my first game, my first preseason

584
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 4: game was against MJ at at Carolina. So that was

585
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 4: like that was a thrill for me, you know because

586
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 4: Scotti was my og so high school, Scottie would they

587
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 4: would come to town, Scotty, would you know, send for me

588
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 4: and stuff like that. So I was around all of

589
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 4: those Knicks Bulls rivalries, you know that the Bulls nets games,

590
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 4: all of that kind of stuff with Kenny A and

591
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 4: Derreck Coleman and all those guys. Yeah, so I was.

592
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 4: I was around that as a youngster, seeing all of that,

593
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 4: you know. So when I first got to the league,

594
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 4: it was like, obviously you're around all your your your

595
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 4: role models, right, you know, guys you look up to,

596
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 4: and now you you you in it. So it's like, yo,

597
00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 4: I'm I feel like I'm a part of this. I'm here.

598
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 4: I've been blessed with the talent, so you know, now

599
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 4: signed to you know, get after it, you know what

600
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 4: I mean. So yeah, I mean you was in all

601
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 4: my first game against those guys, you know, seeing my

602
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 4: idol on the court and stuff like that, like with

603
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 4: MJ and you know, obviously playing against Pip that meant

604
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 4: the world to me. And then my second game was

605
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 4: against my New York Knicks. You know, I grew up

606
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 4: a Knicks fan. So now I'm in NASA all playing

607
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 4: against Pat Ewing and and Alan Houston and Spree, you

608
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 4: know what I mean. So it's like, hey, I'm in now.

609
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 1: New Jersey. Basketball has never been anything to slop chat.

610
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: Maybe overlooked at times, but the greats of you know

611
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: yourself shocked Kyrie Irving, kat j R. Smith talk about

612
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: just the pedigree. You mentioned the Ogs before you, but

613
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: since then, you know the talent that's come out in

614
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: New Jersey.

615
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 2: Oh, let me get my two Earl Clark, Isaiah Brisco. Yeah,

616
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 2: I can't forget to back to back champs. To go

617
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 2: to Jersey too, Jersey boy too.

618
00:28:55,160 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 4: Now yeah, now, man, I mean we just listen, We're

619
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 4: we're top ten in the country in states right that

620
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 4: produced the most NBA you know, pro I would go

621
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 4: put higher and yeah, right, Texas up there, Cali is

622
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 4: up there. You know, we're right next to New York.

623
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 4: So a lot of times we don't get the proper respect.

624
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 4: You know that's due because obviously you know your city. Yeah,

625
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. It's the you know, the media,

626
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 4: you know, capital or whatever. So but overall, man, we

627
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 4: have some talent. Man, And obviously I'm gonna be biased.

628
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 4: I mean, I think Jersey basketball players are better, right,

629
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 4: shoot the ball. Do you know some of the same

630
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 4: things that they can.

631
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 3: Do, but they shoot. That's the difference. You have to shoot.

632
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 3: That's what all due respect.

633
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 4: But I mean it's just like, listen, we we have

634
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 4: to get out of just do as Jersey they can't

635
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 4: keep just talking about New York. We're right here, fifteen

636
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 4: minutes apart from each other, Show Us Love not for real,

637
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 4: Show some.

638
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: Love Everybody one and done at Villanova. The number seven pick,

639
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: So you wanted to be top ten, you got that.

640
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: You're drafted to the Sixers. That's a team with Stackhouse,

641
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: a young AI, Larry Brown's first year coaching. What was

642
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: your welcome to the just the league? You know, obviously

643
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: being the top dog in high school one? Did you

644
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: think in college now you're playing with the likes of

645
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: Alan Iverson and Jerry Stackhouse who was a dog, and

646
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: then you know, a legendary coach and Larry Brown.

647
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I was playing for a real, real

648
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 4: old school coach, Yarry. He just was on the rookies

649
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 4: all day, all night, you know. So it was more

650
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 4: of the mental part of it. I had to get

651
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 4: through with him. Talent wise, obviously, I was blessed with

652
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,719
Speaker 4: that right, So I wasn't really concerned with that. Playing

653
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 4: with Ai, obviously I was able to run the floor

654
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 4: and do those things. I was able to keep up.

655
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 4: Stack House was a monster as well. I was comfortable

656
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 4: because we also have Derek Coleman on that team, who's

657
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 4: the power forward? But I was small forward. Was guys

658
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 4: that I figured I can I can leat it out.

659
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 4: Who was came later? At that time you had Horace Grant,

660
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,959
Speaker 4: brother Harvey Grant. You know, guys was a little older.

661
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 4: So you felt like, you know, at some point it's

662
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 4: gonna be mine.

663
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

664
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, So he was comfortable with being the power forward.

665
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 4: Then I was comfortable going in at the four and

666
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 4: and the and the three, you know, so because of

667
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 4: the skill set, right. So, but the the the mental

668
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 4: games was was the stuff that you know when you

669
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 4: play for an old school coach that's basically trying to

670
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 4: run you through a wall, and you're not gonna give up.

671
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 4: You know, they just keep going and going and going.

672
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 4: So it was more the mental stuff. Me and a

673
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 4: I always talk about that every time we talk. It's like, man,

674
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 4: I hate what hell he did to you, but you

675
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 4: know you're coming from the city, You're coming from the

676
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 4: hood that that.

677
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: I mean, you spoke to the mental side, and I

678
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: feel like once you get to leave them mental side,

679
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: is it period? How long do you feel like you

680
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: had a grasp Was it through your first year, first

681
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: two or three years? Like when do you feel like

682
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: you got a hold of the mental side of the game.

683
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 4: I would say I would say probably like twenty games

684
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 4: into the season. Okay, so it came quick, yeah, because

685
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 4: for me, obviously, what LB like I was, I was

686
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 4: working out forty minutes before practice practice to two and

687
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 4: a half hours. That was back when real practice. Yeah

688
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, I'm ready to go. Yeah,

689
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 4: you practice, you know too, two and a half or whatever.

690
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 4: And then when practice over, guys are shooting around working

691
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 4: on different stuff they want to work on. They got

692
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 4: me still doing drills, you know. So my days was

693
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 4: like I was just draining basketball. So once I got

694
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 4: like in tip top shape, you know what I mean,

695
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 4: which is really after your third day, because we was

696
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 4: going real two of days, and so after that third day,

697
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 4: it's like you see vets like, yo, I'm taking it easy.

698
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 4: I'm not scrimminging today, blase bla, and I'm just going

699
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 4: through this scene cycle where this guys trying to you know,

700
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 4: run you through a wall. I'm like, all right, you know,

701
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 4: after that that first taste of you know, getting in

702
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 4: the game and feeling you know, how strong other guys are,

703
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 4: how fast they are you know their skill set because

704
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 4: you're still trying to, you know, figure all that stuff out,

705
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 4: probably twenty games in.

706
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 3: I was I was.

707
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: Cool trade the Milwaukee in the middle of your second year.

708
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: Your initial reaction to the trade hated it.

709
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 3: Thank you.

710
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 2: I'm not the only one that died and came back

711
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 2: to life when I left Milwaukee.

712
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 4: I'm not. I'm not staying about the city. I mean,

713
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 4: they love you out there. By the way, I was

714
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 4: out there. I gave him the name Trilwaukee. It wasn't

715
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 4: a city, it's the team that was Scott Scott. It

716
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 4: wasn't the city. The city is, but you Thatt was

717
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 4: Scott Scot. I dealt with him in Chicago. I understand that. Yeah,

718
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 4: I understand that.

719
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 3: Definitely not tri Milwaukee.

720
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I understand that. Okay, okay, yeah, But for me,

721
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 4: I hated the trade because I was I was seeing

722
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,959
Speaker 4: my pairs and situations where they was able to go

723
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 4: establish themselves, you know what I mean. So like I'm

724
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 4: seeing Vince, I'm seeing t Matt, I'm seeing Jamaine, you know,

725
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:15,439
Speaker 4: come out of his situation. So I'm like, you know, yes,

726
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 4: this is a good team. Everyone wants to win a Championship.

727
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 4: So when when you're young, you ain't thinking of them,

728
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 4: you ain't thinking like that, right. So I'm like, man,

729
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 4: I'm seeing these guys doing they thing, and I'm like,

730
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 4: I don't want to play behind big Dog who's the

731
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 4: All Star. I don't want to play behind Ray Allen

732
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 4: who's trying to establish hisself. I don't want to be

733
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 4: with a two time NBA champion in Sam causel you know,

734
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 4: not thinking you young. So I actually I actually try

735
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 4: to get traded to Indiana just during the same period, right,

736
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 4: because you know, they gave you that twenty four hours

737
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,720
Speaker 4: and you get traded to get to the next city.

738
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 4: I was actually trying to get traded to Indiana, but

739
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 4: they loved our young boy, Alan Hamilton. They was like,

740
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 4: now we got Alan Jonathan Mender, so we don't want

741
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 4: to make the trade. But I just looked at it

742
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 4: as that like I was just being young, you know, immature,

743
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 4: and was like, I want my own thing or be

744
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 4: a part of something. And I thought the Philly thing

745
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 4: was perfect because you got to remember they traded Stackhouse

746
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 4: mid season. So now I'm looking at it like I'm

747
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 4: a score chuck the score. You know, we don't play

748
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 4: the same position, so we're not gonna clash, you know

749
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,439
Speaker 4: what I mean. So the Milwaukee thing, I was kind

750
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 4: of set back a little bit. But once I realized

751
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 4: like what George was trying to do and the team

752
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 4: that we had and the possibility of winning, I was

753
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 4: locked in. At that point.

754
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 3: It said that you guys, you and Big Dog win

755
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 3: at it.

756
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 4: Yeah a few times. That's my guy. I love Big Dog.

757
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,240
Speaker 3: I know that matchup in practice.

758
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah. So again, me being young, I want my

759
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 4: own situation whatever whatever as a start or whatever. Obviously,

760
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 4: you know how it goes in the league. The money

761
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 4: guys is gonna play before the talent, even if the

762
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 4: talent is you know better, whatever, whatever. I just felt

763
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 4: like that right, obviously Big Dog was I got right.

764
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 4: We had to lean on him for twenty some points

765
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 4: again whatever he was averaging. But that was just the

766
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 4: youngin in me just bringing it out, like, yo, I

767
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 4: gotta show these guys that I belong right. So everybody

768
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 4: had big threes and all that, Nah, this ain't a

769
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 4: Big three situation. It's Big four. Who got clue to

770
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 4: you got he got it? He got a clue tt

771
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 4: on this one. Yeah, That's what it was. They respected

772
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 4: me and the reason why we was clashing because we

773
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 4: was competitive the same position, competitive, you know, and I

774
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 4: wanted that time.

775
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I.

776
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: Talk about that team though, I mean, again, that's a

777
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: younger Ray Allen. People forget who was cold as the motherfucker,

778
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 1: no matter what Jack says, a young you a young

779
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,280
Speaker 1: or no not a young, but big Dog who's obviously

780
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: the vet on that team. And then Sam, I am,

781
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a hell of a team right there.

782
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: And then George Carl's braining around there a team you

783
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: guys obviously found your mark, hit your chemistry and made

784
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 1: it to the conference finals. And Big Dog missed that

785
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: shot at the buzzer.

786
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 2: It's okay to tell our audience I cooked a lot

787
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 2: of them niggas, definitely, okay. I want you to tell them,

788
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 2: like I'm passing myself on the back all the time.

789
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 2: Why won't you tell her, I'll I bust a lot

790
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 2: of your niggas.

791
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: That's okay, tell talk that ship, but talk about that

792
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: whack old jacko some things.

793
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 4: Never since forever, my dog.

794
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 1: That conference final is a no one though. You know,

795
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: Big Dog misses a shot at the buzzer, that's your

796
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: guys opportunity against Philly against Chuck. How tough was that

797
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: for you?

798
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 4: It was? It was tough because you know, anytime you

799
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 4: get traded from a team, and obviously you want you

800
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 4: go back. You want to showcase, you know, your talent,

801
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 4: and you know, it's like breaking up with a girl.

802
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 4: You want to show them what you got, you know,

803
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,439
Speaker 4: what you had, what you're missing, all that kind of stuff. Right,

804
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 4: But it was tough, man, because that's when I obviously

805
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 4: had Newchuk. I know it's talent and everything, but that's

806
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 4: when I really like had an opportunity to like soak

807
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 4: it all in on how great that dude was, you

808
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:15,720
Speaker 4: know what I mean, because.

809
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 3: That team wasn't very talented that he had.

810
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 4: It wasn't a talented team. It was not a town.

811
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 4: And with George right, you know, when George was in Seattle,

812
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 4: he was a defensive minded coach. In Milwaukee, we changed

813
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:30,760
Speaker 4: him into an offensive mining coach.

814
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 3: Because the weapons.

815
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, so what killed us was the fact that we

816
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 4: had an older saying that couldn't keep up with Ai.

817
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 4: We had a bigger ray that you know, it took

818
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 4: a lot out of him to play both ends right,

819
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,479
Speaker 4: you know, so you want them to score. You can't

820
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 4: have him chasing, you know, big dogs. Just wasn't quick enough, right,

821
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 4: So there's pictures that I was sending that guess who had.

822
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 3: To go to AI six eleven, six eleven.

823
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 4: Ten times?

824
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:06,240
Speaker 3: Good luck with that, right, So he came.

825
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 4: Down to that and then, like just to talk about

826
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 4: his greatness, it's like he was scoring and you know,

827
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 4: now they say all three levels. He was scoring all

828
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 4: three levels. He was getting to the basket. He was

829
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 4: shooting short, little faded ways that was almost like post ups,

830
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 4: like he'll drive the one spot and just pull up,

831
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So that was almost like

832
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 4: a post up, like a Kobe fade or MJ fade right,

833
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 4: and then he was hitting the three ball right and

834
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 4: then and then the other thing was he was always

835
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 4: going to the basket, so he was getting to the

836
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,439
Speaker 4: flow line. So a lot of people they talk about

837
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 4: that series and say, you guys should have won, but

838
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 4: the NBA cheated y'all because they got to the free

839
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 4: throw line as many times as they did. But when

840
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 4: you go back and look at it, it's like, Yo,

841
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 4: that guy was going wherever you wanted to go. And

842
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 4: get a shot off. You're gonna follo him what you're

843
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 4: gonna score.

844
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 3: I think there was a better matchup. That was a

845
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 3: better matchup for the finals foot Lakers too. Yes, that

846
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 3: year I would have gave him up his problems. Who

847
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 3: was your center? Yeah, girl, John's e J right ever

848
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 3: John Scott Williams.

849
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were solid Bason, but there was definitely that

850
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: whisper that that that the league wanted iverson first shock

851
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: and Kobe.

852
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you gotta think about it. That year

853
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 4: a I was m v P, Aaron Mcki was six

854
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 4: man a year, uh, like Brown's Coach of the Year,

855
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 4: and but Tumbo was defensive.

856
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 3: A lot of accolades. So that stage, it's already set,

857
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 3: and Milwaukee's.

858
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: A smaller media market. Yeah it was, so it was

859
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 1: like not to take nothing away from Philly. But I

860
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 1: definitely remember that, and it's funny he even said it

861
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: before I even asked it.

862
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 4: So yeah, and then that year, to go back to

863
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 4: what you was saying, Jack, like that year, we swept

864
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 4: the Lakers. That year, really we swept the Lakers. So

865
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 4: that that was because we George knew how to double shot,

866
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 4: so we you know, most most people double on the

867
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 4: catch was double when it was in there. Yeah, when

868
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 4: it was in there, go get them.

869
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 3: You might catch your elbow, but go Yeah.

870
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 2: But but then again, you gotta think though, when they

871
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 2: switching out of rotation. They got a six nine and

872
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 2: big dog a six elevens bro, you know what I'm saying.

873
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 2: They got big motherfuckers rotated. That's what I'm saying. Young,

874
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

875
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know, playing you know on the East

876
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 4: coast in the city, you know how to kind of

877
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 4: close out because everybody's attacking the basket. So that's like

878
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 4: second nature to you know, all of us up this way.

879
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 2: Nicks, the Knicks, can you dive into the fat Joe

880
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 2: visit fifty cent Beef? I know you, you know you

881
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 2: real cool with fifty I'm really cool. I'm really cool

882
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 2: with Joe. But men fifty and had men fifty and

883
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,479
Speaker 2: had some conversations not bumping to one on the plane.

884
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 2: He's somebody me and Matt look up to, somebody we

885
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 2: want to have on the show because you got the

886
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,479
Speaker 2: contact on him too. Yeah, but talk about talk about

887
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 2: getting caught up in it.

888
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: Go ahead, was I mean obviously again with you know

889
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 1: alliances amongst the team with the beef that's in the

890
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: streets of New York, Like, did that draw?

891
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 3: Did that divide the team or was there any kind of.

892
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 2: Funk before you start though, and me and you both know,

893
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 2: this was real beef. This wasn't no beef for y'all

894
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 2: get on songs to talk about each other. Na these

895
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 2: This was real beef. Dog, This is real beef. Where

896
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 2: you was hoping that day didn't bump into each other? Yeah,

897
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 2: me let me take a swig first.

898
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, let me get some of my some of yourn drinks. Yeah,

899
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 4: let me get some of my vodka.

900
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 3: Our X go get it sometimes on water or drink

901
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 3: or X. Yeah, drink or X. You know what I'm saying.

902
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, So so that that was that was real.

903
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 3: Man.

904
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 4: It was like for me, right, I played for Fat

905
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 4: Joe and the Rutger squad, Right, Me and stuff grew

906
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 4: up together and all of that. So I was I

907
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 4: was already had a relationship with most of everybody from

908
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 4: Terror squad, you know, because obviously you see him in

909
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 4: the park and stuff like that, right, and shout out

910
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 4: to everybody you know the team. But you know, back then,

911
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 4: like fifth was my guys. I was rocking with Fifth

912
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 4: So they had the office directly across the street from

913
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 4: the garden. Yeah, so instead of some nights, instead of

914
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 4: going out to eat, I would just he would have

915
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 4: food already go over there and eat, you know, just

916
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 4: chill out whatever whatever. So those was my guys which

917
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 4: just clicked right. So not knowing like you know, how

918
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 4: the ship you know, start and how you get.

919
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 3: Involved or whatever. Politics.

920
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you know, in the rap world is what

921
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 4: it is, right, So when it hit man, it was

922
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 4: it was kind of weird because you don't really know

923
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 4: the ins and outs of it all, but you could

924
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 4: just start feeling like different vibes around people that you

925
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 4: grew up with, like me and Steph, like we you know,

926
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 4: were cool and talking of late, but we're on the

927
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 4: team together and I'm rocking with you in it and

928
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 4: he's rocking with Terrist Spots. So you know, it wasn't

929
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 4: things like me and him trying to like get that

930
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 4: each other on a daily basis.

931
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 3: It wasn't that the.

932
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 4: Energy was off, like these are two guys that grew up,

933
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 4: we went to five Star together, all these different camps

934
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 4: and stuff, like I know, as brothers, you know all

935
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 4: of that. I even played with Gauchos. A lot of

936
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 4: peoplen't even know that, Like me and Felipe and Sham

937
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 4: we all rocked out one time, you know, in the circuit,

938
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 4: so like there's genuine love dick, you know what I mean.

939
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 4: So but on the court it showed. You know, it'll

940
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 4: be you know, low passed, I'm six, low pass, late past,

941
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 4: you know, stuff like that, and then you know what happens.

942
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 4: Sometimes you gotta take it on your answer. You'll get

943
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 4: a rebound, bring it up, go do your own things.

944
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 4: So it showed on the court. So it definitely showed

945
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 4: on the court with them two with fifth and in

946
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 4: fact Joe going at it. I mean, it just took

947
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 4: you know, a spind here in the city. It was

948
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 4: just everyone knew what.

949
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 3: It was you saying you had to pick a side.

950
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it took. It took a crazy spind you

951
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 4: know in the city, and it was like, you know,

952
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:04,760
Speaker 4: you had certain rappers, you know, trying to pick size

953
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 4: with you know, with people and stuff just so they

954
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 4: can kind of stay out of the clayer what they

955
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 4: was doing at whatever particular time whatever. So yeah, it

956
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 4: took the spind man definitely took a spind I.

957
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 3: Mean outside of that, what was it like to be

958
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 3: you know, although you're from Jersey, what was it like

959
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 3: to be a Nick?

960
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 4: It was everything, man, two time Nick, that was everything. Man.

961
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 4: I remember, like yesterday, shout out to my my brother

962
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:30,919
Speaker 4: Coatino Mobi you know, Cat my dog. So the first one,

963
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 4: the first trade I was, I was we was with

964
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,280
Speaker 4: the Clippers and we you know, we had a pretty

965
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 4: decent team. I had signed with them after playing with

966
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 4: them with the with the Phoenix. But Cat came out

967
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 4: with me with that trade. So when we got to

968
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 4: New York, you know, you go through your your physical

969
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 4: and stuff, and they found out he had the heart

970
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 4: murmer and stuff. So he was his career was done.

971
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 4: So I'm excited on being home. We get traded in

972
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 4: and he's done. So that was like, you know, that

973
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,919
Speaker 4: was a dull moment right there. But you know, once

974
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 4: once you get to you know, suiting it up and

975
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 4: being in that locker room and playing in the in

976
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 4: in that garden, it's not like it. Man, It's not

977
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 4: like it, especially for kid.

978
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 3: You know, in this area.

979
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 2: Landing with the signs in two in two thousand and six.

980
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 2: Give us some Steve Nash, Steve.

981
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 3: One of that that was both he want VP those

982
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 3: two years, right, you were there, Yes, I was there.

983
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 4: I was there the second one.

984
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 3: Second year, he's the one. He's one post to win.

985
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 4: Well, opinion based? How have you put it?

986
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:38,760
Speaker 3: Kobe based?

987
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:40,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm saying opinion based.

988
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 3: Now you was on this team to hease stop it.

989
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 4: How you want to put it?

990
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 3: Man?

991
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 4: I love my brother Kobe. I'm just saying, how do

992
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 4: you want to put it?

993
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 3: Man?

994
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:49,479
Speaker 4: It's opinion based?

995
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, So just let me ask you this. I

996
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 2: mean to cut your question off. So you think he

997
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 2: deserved winning the back to back Kobe had the better year.

998
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 2: We know that, But who's and me and you hell

999
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 2: do know at.

1000
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 3: We ain't. We ain't vote for.

1001
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 4: But hey, it is what it is.

1002
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 3: Man.

1003
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 4: Some people like numbers, you know, his percentage or whatever.

1004
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 3: He was my vet.

1005
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 2: I love Steve that he was my vet when I

1006
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 2: got drafted. I think he did a lie for me

1007
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 2: as far as because I was getting cut. They drafted

1008
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 2: me and told me I was getting cut. But he

1009
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 2: made me feel like I was a part of the

1010
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,879
Speaker 2: team the little short time I was there, and gave

1011
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 2: me a lot of game. But talk give me some

1012
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 2: Steve Nash stories because you had a chance to see

1013
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 2: him at his best.

1014
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 4: One of the funniest stories with Steve. We went back

1015
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 4: to Canada, you know, Steve from Canada, went back to Canada,

1016
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 4: and I think we was there like two days. Normally,

1017
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 4: you know, you in and out, so we had to

1018
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 4: stay over whatever.

1019
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 3: Was this still to this Vancouver Toronto.

1020
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 4: This is Toronto, Toronto, Toronto. So we over there and

1021
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 4: Steve had like I think it was his birthday or something,

1022
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 4: but he had just non stop events or whatever. So

1023
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 4: we're going from restaurants, restaurant, bar to bar, club, the club, whatever, whatever.

1024
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 4: And in the midst of us traveling, we get stuck

1025
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 4: in the elevator. It's like half the team. We get

1026
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 4: stuck in the elevator for like forty five minutes. So

1027
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 4: you know, start getting high, guys start getting you know,

1028
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 4: start feeling it. And Steve was just cool as a fan, right,

1029
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden, you know, it's cold,

1030
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 4: so everybody got coats on and stuff, so all the stuff.

1031
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 4: He just started coming out of all this stuff like

1032
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 4: and everybody's like, what's going on. He said, Man, I

1033
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 4: can't take it. I can't take it. So you know

1034
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 4: the hair you got right there, crazy, So that that

1035
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 4: was one of the funniest moments when because I always

1036
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 4: seen him on the court just being cool, you know,

1037
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 4: all the time. But nah, Man such a such a

1038
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 4: competitor man he was. You know, I played with some

1039
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 4: great guards, staff Ai sam Be with Steve Man. He

1040
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:51,879
Speaker 4: was a guy that you like, outside of the shock,

1041
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 4: you had to double them. You had the double because

1042
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:55,919
Speaker 4: he was gonna make something happen or he was gonna

1043
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 4: knock it down.

1044
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's my goya. He loved the past.

1045
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 2: Super cool off the court though, if you had a

1046
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 2: chance to hang with him off the court, you got

1047
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:06,720
Speaker 2: a whole different outlook.

1048
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 4: He's a brother. Yeah, he was a brother. That's my brother.

1049
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 2: Brother down three two in Games six visits Lakers, you

1050
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 2: had a clutch three and yeah there winning the series

1051
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 2: walking through that.

1052
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 4: Man. That was contract really well that series though it

1053
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 4: was it was contract year. That was my first and

1054
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 4: only time competing again.

1055
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 3: Show made some money too, motherfucker. He made some bread boy,

1056
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 3: you know, I like that.

1057
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 4: But yeah, that was a contract year for me. And

1058
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 4: then obviously playing against my brother Cole, right so I

1059
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 4: never got a chance to play against him in the playoffs,

1060
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 4: and I just knew the mental warfare that was gonna

1061
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 4: be there. Like Cole loved to play those games with

1062
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 4: those he loved, you know, Yes, you know they'll say

1063
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 4: of you or do something stupid before the game, or

1064
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 4: not even speak to you, you know, just to you know,

1065
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 4: let you know what type of day it was gonna be.

1066
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 4: But uh, that that was, that was that was a

1067
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 4: thrill to be, you know, part of that series, the

1068
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 4: way it was with us being down and fighting back.

1069
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 4: But that that player that you're talking about, it was

1070
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 4: scramble Mold right. So our best shooter, Steve missed the

1071
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,240
Speaker 4: first three, right, we was able to get that rebound.

1072
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 2: Uh.

1073
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,479
Speaker 4: I think Boris d how you guys are just talking about,

1074
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 4: had all that game. I think he took the second

1075
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 4: three and missed that one, and then Sean Marryon got

1076
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 4: the rebound and kicked it to me. So you know,

1077
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 4: we all know tendencies in the game. So as the

1078
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 4: ball was coming towards me, I seen Kwame Brown running

1079
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 4: towards me, so we know he's going for every pump

1080
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 4: fake possible. So and then I was knocking it down

1081
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 4: so well that series. It was just a small pump.

1082
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 4: Fake was wide open. You know, scramble mold. You gotta

1083
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 4: shoot it, you know you can, and you know, try

1084
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 4: to hold it and look for somebody else. Time's going down,

1085
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,399
Speaker 4: so you gotta let it go. So I just shot

1086
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 4: the ball with confidence. Man, I was shooting. Well, that's itious.

1087
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 3: What would he do in today's game? Him, I'll be different,

1088
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 3: he can play one through five.

1089
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 4: I just see myself when I watch today's game. You know,

1090
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 4: it's just guys six ten, whatever skill set.

1091
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: You know, obviously a ton of expectations coming to lead

1092
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: you have a you know, a great thirteen year career.

1093
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 1: When you get a chance to kind of sit back

1094
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: and look at the friendships, the games, the money, the experience,

1095
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: the fun, what do you what do you how do

1096
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: you bother your career up?

1097
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 3: What do you think about?

1098
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 4: I think I had a great one, Man, I had

1099
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 4: a great one. You know, first of all, to be

1100
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 4: blessed to be in that situation, not to me, of

1101
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 4: us that you know, get a chance to make it

1102
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 4: to that, to that uh, that situation and playing at

1103
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 4: the highest level. So I was I was, you know,

1104
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 4: I was blessed to be, you know, a part of it.

1105
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 4: I had some great experiences with, you know, some great

1106
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 4: group of guys. You know how life is, man, You're

1107
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 4: flying all over the world, flying in the worst weather,

1108
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 4: all that kind of stuff. So you know, you have

1109
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 4: those experiences of you know, being around different guys, different

1110
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 4: teammates six months and all that stuff, competing. You know,

1111
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 4: I wouldn't take it back.

1112
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 3: You have a favorite stop or a favorite team that

1113
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 3: you played on.

1114
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 4: I probably would say, obviously, any time you get a

1115
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 4: chance to play home, man, that's everything. I do wish

1116
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 4: that the Phoenix thing would have would have worked out.

1117
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 4: Thought you were great, Yeah, I do wish that would

1118
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 4: have worked out. But hey man, you know for us, man,

1119
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 4: we played this game to you know, get compensated well,

1120
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 4: and that was the biggest check on the table the business.

1121
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 2: How would that would look you going into the nets? Well,

1122
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 2: that's I mean, what was it like when they when

1123
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 2: you came.

1124
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 4: Out, that came out?

1125
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 3: They had.

1126
00:52:54,200 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 4: No Sam was there? Sam Pacell was there, Sherman, Douglas up, Kendall, Gill,

1127
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 4: Kerry Kittle, Johnny Newman, They.

1128
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 3: Always there, wasn't there yet. He wasn't there yet. He

1129
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 3: wasn't there yet, No, so I was.

1130
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was sick, but I really wanted to play

1131
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 4: for the home team. I was excited about that drive.

1132
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: Something you hope that that that young Hoopers take from this.

1133
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 1: Obviously you had a ton of accolades that the were

1134
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: earned because it was different back then. You had to

1135
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: earn the ship. It wasn't given away on social media

1136
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: and with highlight tapes like you earned that had a

1137
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 1: very successful career. Uh, you transitioned into a successful AU

1138
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 1: program who sent a ton of kids to college, the

1139
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: McDonald's game in the league, coaching high school basketball. Now,

1140
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: what will you hope someone takes from this interview?

1141
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 4: I mean, just you know, obviously, if you're a basketball player,

1142
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:51,720
Speaker 4: follow your dreams, work work hard towards your goals. Obviously,

1143
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 4: you know, get those academics in order as well, and

1144
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 4: just be you know, solid people overall. Clean up your

1145
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 4: social media athletes because they watching, trust me, they watching,

1146
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 4: And get with the guys like us, you know, or

1147
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 4: guys that's not like us that may have played D

1148
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 4: one basketball, any collin college basketball, and go ask those

1149
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 4: guys for some advice we share. We share, you know,

1150
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 4: stop running to the bad trainers, you know, and all

1151
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 4: that kind of stuff because right now we're behind the

1152
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 4: eight ball, you know, to the international game absolutely. You know,

1153
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 4: AU is a rapid thing. You know, we got to

1154
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 4: practice and train more. Kobe was trying to get at

1155
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 4: that a few years back. But we do have to

1156
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 4: practice and train more and play less games. That's what

1157
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 4: they're doing overseas. That's the way we got to get

1158
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 4: our kids better. All right, salute everybody that's doing it

1159
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 4: and keep doing it because our youth need us.

1160
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 2: Let me ask you one question, what would you tell

1161
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 2: because you've been through this, what did you tell the

1162
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 2: player that went that's going through injury and trying to

1163
00:54:58,400 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 2: get back as you've been through that.

1164
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, listen, injuries is a part of sports. If

1165
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 4: you don't if you don't want to get injured, don't

1166
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 4: play sports, you know what I mean. So, I mean,

1167
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 4: it's just what it is. So when it happens, hey, listen,

1168
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 4: to setback happens for a reason. You know, you work

1169
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 4: your way to come back and get back into the

1170
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 4: groove and do your thing. And that's in any sport,

1171
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 4: in any sport, because it's going to happen, it's going

1172
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 4: to happen.

1173
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 1: Before we hit quick hitters. Favorite Kobe story. You've known

1174
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: them for a long time.

1175
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 4: Man, It's crazy.

1176
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 3: Uh.

1177
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,439
Speaker 4: You know, when I got in the league, I bought

1178
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 4: a house in brnmar right, which is five minutes from

1179
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 4: from Villanova. So Lord Marion is right there. I used

1180
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 4: to see his moms and stuff at the grocery store

1181
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 4: and stuff like that. Obviously, we you know, we played

1182
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:57,760
Speaker 4: au basketball together. We had you know, our fun times

1183
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 4: with that. Got a chance competing against each other, you know,

1184
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 4: in the league, in the playoff series, all of that.

1185
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 4: Obviously I lived in Calabasas. The accident happened, you know,

1186
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 4: right there. So I just felt like our connection it's

1187
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 4: always been there, you know what I mean, ninety six

1188
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 4: class all of that. But we had you know, in California,

1189
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 4: it get those spires all the time. So it was

1190
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 4: one of those real bad ones. So we go down

1191
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 4: to New Point Beach with the family, you know, to

1192
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 4: get out of the house, might lose the house whatever.

1193
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:44,359
Speaker 4: That's cold neck of the was. So we pull up

1194
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 4: first night, We're thinking about our house. The whole shebang.

1195
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 4: Full up, go to a restaurant, you know, get some dinner,

1196
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 4: Cob knows the owner. He calls, take care of my guy,

1197
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 4: Bill probably six D seven hundred dollars. I'm getting ready

1198
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 4: to pull a card out. I was taking. Yeah, who

1199
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 4: took care of it? Oh, mister Bryant. Mister Bryant, like, ye, man,

1200
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 4: I don't know, I'm here, how do you know what

1201
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 4: I mean? He was somewhere doing something. And then the

1202
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 4: rest of the time we had to be there, which

1203
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 4: is probably two weeks or so, everywhere I went to

1204
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 4: city and had to pay for nothing.

1205
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 3: Really, he took everything.

1206
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 4: It was.

1207
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 2: It was.

1208
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 4: It was so crazy to the point where like you know,

1209
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 4: you got you got a bunch of homes and so

1210
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 4: he was like, yo, just go stay at the My

1211
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 4: wife wanted to stay at the beach. You know, we

1212
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 4: had a beach front of it. So she's like, let's

1213
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 4: just stay here, but he was like, just go to

1214
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 4: the house. So yeah, I mean, it's stuff like that.

1215
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 3: We do.

1216
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 4: You know, I remember that situation like crazy, because it's

1217
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 4: like it's right there saying you try to drive away

1218
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 4: there and go see what's going on. But it's crazy.

1219
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 4: But yeah, man, it's as you can see, it's tough

1220
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 4: for me. I know, your relationship.

1221
00:57:55,440 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 3: So quick hitters. First thing to come to mind. Five

1222
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 3: new Jersey Hoopers of all time? Put you on the spot. Yeah,

1223
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 3: come on, man, top five of all times.

1224
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 4: You got so many, man, I mean Shock Shack's not

1225
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 4: born here.

1226
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 3: So you, I mean you ain't even gotta be in order.

1227
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 3: Just give me five of them.

1228
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with. I'm gonna go myself. You get

1229
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:29,439
Speaker 4: born in Texas. Mm hmm.

1230
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 3: Shack was born in Texas.

1231
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 4: Shack was born in Texas.

1232
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 3: He grew up in Jersey.

1233
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 4: He grew up in Jersey. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

1234
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go myself. Uh d

1235
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 4: J Wagner, I'm gonna go. You gotta put Kyrie in there.

1236
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm. Uh, I'm gonna go.

1237
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 3: J R.

1238
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 1: It's gonna get that last oh Man, spot Herring ting Cat.

1239
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 1: There's some names out there still.

1240
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna get no calls. I'm soprano in this state.

1241
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 4: I didn't I didn't bring the road, but they know

1242
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 4: I'm soprano in the state.

1243
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 1: They know that.

1244
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 4: Oh man, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go. Isaiah Briscoll

1245
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go.

1246
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say say the truth. I'm trying to tell niggas.

1247
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 3: Ba I did it. I know it. That's one of

1248
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 3: them right there. Thanks, thanks, appreciate you, earl. Earl, you

1249
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 3: Arnor mentioned New Jersey childhood.

1250
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 4: Crush, childhood crush. Man. I got in trouble for this too,

1251
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 4: because my wife went to Georgetown and I had got

1252
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 4: asked this while I was in high school and about

1253
00:59:57,840 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 4: the prom, like who would I want to go to

1254
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 4: the prome with? Because was going with friend? And I

1255
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 4: said no, I said, uh, I forget her name. I

1256
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 4: don't want to mess her name up. From from the

1257
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 4: Will Smith Show, from Fresh Prince, from Fresh Prince, the Sister.

1258
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 3: Ali Tai.

1259
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah that was yeah.

1260
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 4: So I mean I just I just said it because

1261
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 4: obviously you know you're watching the sitcom shows. I'm like,

1262
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 4: she's pretty.

1263
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 3: I got in trouble for that, and you got grounded

1264
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 3: for it.

1265
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1266
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 3: Craziest thing ever offered you in high school?

1267
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 1: Uh.

1268
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 4: University offered me three million dollars uh, a two million

1269
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 4: dollar home, four different vehicles, and they knew I was

1270
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 4: only going to be there for six months, and I said.

1271
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 3: Couldn't do it. God damn can you can you give

1272
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 3: it in my NBA deal? Could you give us a

1273
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 3: school or the cost? What coast was it on east coast?

1274
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 3: West coast?

1275
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 4: It was on the east coasts.

1276
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 3: It was on the east coast.

1277
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 4: I'll give you this hand. I just told you I'm

1278
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 4: soprying on New Jersey.

1279
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 3: So okay, I'll leave it. Keep it there. Dig that

1280
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 3: one thing you wish you was better at.

1281
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 4: One thing I wish I was better at, probably being

1282
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 4: handy man. I'm not. I'm not handed. I don't know

1283
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 4: what us not handy. My wife get on me about.

1284
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 3: That all the time. Had building ship like Christmas.

1285
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 4: Come, I'm like, I'm trying to run away from toys.

1286
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:40,440
Speaker 4: My wife gets on me about that.

1287
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 3: Rick my handy man? H song album or artist to

1288
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 3: play over your career highlights?

1289
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 4: Anything naughty by nature you know those my brother my

1290
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 4: brother so anything anything noughty by nature, anything Jersey you know,

1291
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 4: food Giez, anything Jersey Base.

1292
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 3: One guess on all the smoke. I think you already

1293
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 3: answered it, but we're gonna ask you again because he

1294
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 3: brought up someone else he was close with you.

1295
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, real one guess that you would like to see

1296
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 2: on all the Smoke, but you have to help us

1297
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 2: get your answer on the show.

1298
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 4: I got to got too, so I'm gonna go. I'm

1299
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 4: gonna go fifty. Yeah. You gotta get up here. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and I'm gonna go Sonny Carol for the basketball.

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Speaker 1: To male your calls, but for your call, real Tim.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you, man. We want to make sure you

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Speaker 1: know that you were always respected.

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Speaker 3: By your peers and we got a lot of love

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Speaker 3: for you.

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Speaker 1: And and it really hats off to your AU program

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Speaker 1: and what you've been able to do and the blessing

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Speaker 1: you've been for so many young men out here, just

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Speaker 1: to give them hope and to see it.

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Speaker 3: Man. So continue to carry on. Make sure you guys

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Speaker 3: get your purified business. Yeah, r X handing your business

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Speaker 3: and man, God blessed man.

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Speaker 4: Thank you brother, my real brother.

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Speaker 3: You can catch this on All the Smoke Productions YouTube.

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Speaker 3: We'll see y'all next week.

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Speaker 4: I