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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Oh, it's our two on this Tuesday, Dan

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Speaker 1: and the Dants Dan Patrick Show. The Calvin Ridley story,

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Speaker 1: the fallout to the NFL hipocritically harsh in their punishment

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Speaker 1: with Calvin Ridley. More on this story coming up. Our

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Speaker 1: good buddy Ross Tucker, former NFL lineman nowly a broadcaster

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Speaker 1: for CBS Watchwood one. Ross will join us a little bit.

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Speaker 1: We'll also check in with Nick Wright Fox Sports. He'll

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Speaker 1: join us in the final hour of the program. Seatan

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Speaker 1: give us the poll question and the results from the

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Speaker 1: first hour, first hour, Dan Calvin Ridley's punishment was right now,

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Speaker 1: fifty three percent of the audience say fair, thirty six

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Speaker 1: percent saying it's too harsh. What you have to understand,

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Speaker 1: there's a few things that we have to understand, and

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Speaker 1: you may already understand this. When the NFL announced that

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Speaker 1: they were going to raise the salary cap, they raised

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Speaker 1: the salary cap I think twenty five million dollars per team.

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Speaker 1: That's based off new revenue, that's based off gambling revenue.

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Speaker 1: Players have to be aware of that that you're getting

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Speaker 1: your cut of gambling and you're being asked not to gamble.

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Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley. I know, it's only fifteen hundred dollars. He

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Speaker 1: wasn't even playing. I understand all of those things, but

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Speaker 1: or not. And he did sit out. I think he

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Speaker 1: checked out of the Falcons at Halloween. Said he had

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Speaker 1: to kind of get his life in order. But you

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Speaker 1: know the risk and the reward. He was bored. He

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Speaker 1: said that he couldn't even watch these games unless he

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Speaker 1: had some money on it. But the NFL doesn't want

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Speaker 1: these stories. You know, are there are sports crimes. There

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Speaker 1: are real crimes. There are sports crimes, and I know

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Speaker 1: we're trying to combine those two and go, well, he

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Speaker 1: got a full season, but Adrian Peterson only got this.

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Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson, that's a real crime. The NFL is looking

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Speaker 1: at Calvin Ridley. That's a football crime. He was gambling legally,

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Speaker 1: but publicly legally, not NFL legally. Players got more revenue streams.

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Speaker 1: The NFL looking for more revenue streams. You're asked not

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Speaker 1: to gamble. And is it harsh? Is it over punishing? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Probably so, But the NFL has to do it. It's

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Speaker 1: like Charles Barkley told me one time. I said, how

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Speaker 1: do you deal with boyfriends coming over? And he said, well,

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Speaker 1: I figure if I shoot the first one, then word

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Speaker 1: will get around to all the rest of them. That's

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Speaker 1: what the NFL is trying to do. Hey, message sent

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Speaker 1: at least you would think. So now, is that going

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Speaker 1: to stop players from gambling? No, it's not. Do I

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Speaker 1: think other players gamble? Yes, I do, They're not that naive.

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Speaker 1: But Calvin Ridley is probably thinking, Look, we're in business,

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Speaker 1: I should be able to gamble. I'm not playing. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what's in his mind. We did reach out

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Speaker 1: to tell us his side of the story. Here, but

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Speaker 1: it's going to cost you eleven million dollars. He bet

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Speaker 1: fifteen hundred is going to cost him eleven million in salary.

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Speaker 1: And he probably thought this isn't a big deal and

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Speaker 1: it isn't in our minds. But the NFL that's who

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Speaker 1: if he's good. I don't know if he's any good.

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Speaker 1: He has to be entertaining. He doesn't have to be

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Speaker 1: I guess you know. When we started the offseason the Packers,

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Speaker 1: what was going to happen in his future. Now there's

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Speaker 1: but Rogers is doing exactly what he said he wouldn't do. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that hasn't stopped the Packers from trying to keep him.

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Speaker 1: It was reported yesterday Green Bay has made a significant

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Speaker 1: least fifty million dollars per year. Is it three years

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Speaker 1: maybe he's you know, there's gonna be something that tips

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Speaker 1: and we may go oh okay, didn't figure that. But

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Speaker 1: tough to you know, to handicap this. You got Davante Adams,

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Speaker 1: But look at that that division bears why Vikings. Oh my,

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Speaker 1: no problems there. You're gonna win at least five of

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Speaker 1: Now granted, he hasn't done well in the playoffs, hasn't

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Speaker 1: Davante Adams, and it feels like I can add to

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Speaker 1: my legacy more so in Green Bay than any other place. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I like your theory about we don't know the reason.

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Speaker 1: But what if what if Rogers stays at the Packers

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Speaker 1: But it just we're getting to the point where what

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Speaker 1: to what the Packers I think it felt like, release

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Speaker 1: that would change the entire NFL. He didn't want to stay. Yeah. See,

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Speaker 1: then if they're already doing some kind of like preemptive

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Speaker 1: Todd did, all right, Broncos Okay, boys, wish you'd watching

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Speaker 1: Denver Bronco. No, you were, Todd, you were you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm very fair minded here. You know, three hour show.

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Speaker 1: You can change your mind. An I mean, if I

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Speaker 1: it's never a simple question with you things all the time.

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Speaker 1: It's just where do you think Aaron Rodgers is going

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Speaker 1: to be next year? I had to just say, was bronchos.

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Speaker 1: There's one word that's it. Two syllables that would have

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Speaker 1: I know you started bringing pastries into it. I guy panicked.

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Speaker 1: I apologize. Broncos. Okay, pastries like the pie thing, that's

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Speaker 1: twenty years. How committal am I to pretty much anything?

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Speaker 1: I said, Hey, Todd, would you like a breakfast sandwich.

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Speaker 1: second week of games? Deadline is today? Lebron rasped. Lakers

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Speaker 1: But they lost to San Antonio. You know, the bigger story.

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Speaker 1: poll results, Sarah Seaton, Dan, Right, now, we have fifty

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Speaker 1: three percent of the audience thinks Calvin Ridley's punishment was fair.

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Speaker 1: Ross Tucker Football Podcast. What options do you think the

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Speaker 1: I'm not doing that. I will say this though, Dan,

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Speaker 1: watching a football game where you have eighteen thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: riding on it, having beers with your buddies, I have

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Speaker 1: never been more into a football game in my whole life.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was unbelievable. Washington one. We made the playoffs.

427
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Speaker 1: I knew I was getting the eighteen grand I paid

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Speaker 1: for everything that night for New Year's Eve. It was epic.

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Speaker 1: We're talking to Ross Chucker, the mead head James Vanderbeek.

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Speaker 1: By the way, James Vanderbeek turns forty five today. The

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Speaker 1: act James Vanderbeek, you turned forty three last Wednesday. So

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever crossed pass with the

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Speaker 1: actor James Vanderbeek. You could play his little brother in

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Speaker 1: a movie. Well little but bigger brother. No, we haven't

435
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Speaker 1: crossed pass. One time when I was filling in for you,

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Speaker 1: Fritzie got him booked and then he canceled it. And

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Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's because of what I

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Speaker 1: said about him on the show. I think on the show,

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Speaker 1: we were talking about Dawson's Creek and I just thought

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Speaker 1: he was a little bit of I thought he was

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Speaker 1: a little bit too soft on Dawson's Creek, okay, or

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Speaker 1: even to be honest with you, I thought his priorities

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Speaker 1: were all screwed up on in that movie. Wait, Mark,

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Speaker 1: what's softer acting in Dawson's Creek or watching Dawson's Creek. Oh?

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Speaker 1: I watched Dawson's Creek. Every episode I would get to

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Speaker 1: deal with the girls in college. It was me and

447
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Speaker 1: like twelve girls watching Dawson's Creek. It was amazing. But

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Speaker 1: in Dawson's Creek, he was always like, oh, Joey, why

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Speaker 1: don't you love me? So I didn't like that. And

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Speaker 1: then Varsity Blues. He's starting high school football in West

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Speaker 1: Texas and he's caring about academics and trying to get

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Speaker 1: into Brown. He needs to focus on what matters and

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Speaker 1: what Oh, and the girl with the whipped cream comes

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Speaker 1: in and he does nothing with it. She's got whipped Oh,

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Speaker 1: she's only wear whipped cream. He does nothing. I am

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Speaker 1: convinced Vanderbeek heard me talking craft on his characters on

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Speaker 1: your show and canceled on Fritzie as a result. And

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Speaker 1: those are all fair points, was it? Ali? Larterer. I

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Speaker 1: like how you say it, like you don't know. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the cream girl. All right, we have a Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: bet where Aaron is going to end up? You got

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Speaker 1: to decide today, where does Aaron Rodgers stay go? Broncos, Steelers, Titans,

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Speaker 1: retirement other Yeah, man, and I'm gonna go. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: ultimately say green Bay. I think my hesitation is because

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Speaker 1: if it was Green Bay, you would think that he

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Speaker 1: would have already said that by now. But there's been

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Speaker 1: enough talk I've seen of Laflour meeting with Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: agent and David Donne, his agent, talking with Russ Ball

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Speaker 1: from the Packers. I guess I don't understand why your

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Speaker 1: agent would be spending that much time talking contract with

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Speaker 1: the team if you were planning to leave. That doesn't

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Speaker 1: make a whole lot of sense to me. And I

473
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Speaker 1: think all these reports about him being torn or whatever

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Speaker 1: are just a way to get more favorable contract terms

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Speaker 1: or more money or more leverage whatever he's looking for.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm gonna say he stays in Green Bay. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It feels like they're giving him everything that he wants.

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Speaker 1: They're bringing back his old quarterback coach Tom Clements. It

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Speaker 1: felt like Green Bay is going to release this information

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Speaker 1: of hey, this is sources, this is going to change

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacking market salary wise. That doesn't get out unless

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Speaker 1: you feel like, maybe Aaron is not going to come

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Speaker 1: back and we did everything we could to keep him.

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Speaker 1: It's a fair point. It feels like most of the

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Speaker 1: reports that have come out have been from the packers side.

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Speaker 1: It's not like Aaron Rodgers camp would be leaking that,

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Speaker 1: you know, he's been offered fifty million, or they're gonna

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Speaker 1: make him the highest paid guy. You know. That doesn't

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Speaker 1: really help Aaron's image if the belief is that this

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Speaker 1: is about money. I think most people want to believe

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Speaker 1: at least that this is not about money. It's about

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Speaker 1: him going where he has the best chance to win

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, which, by the way, I don't know

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Speaker 1: how you argue that that's Denver over Green Bay. I

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00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 1: think that's a tough argument to make, especially in the

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Speaker 1: AFC over the NFC. I just think he's having a

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Speaker 1: tough time realizing what brave he did last year, what

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Speaker 1: Stafford did this year, and not thinking that maybe he

499
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Speaker 1: also needs that change of scenery to get another one,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's a fair point as well. We

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Speaker 1: have a draft bet, quarterback draft bet, and we haven't

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Speaker 1: talked to you since we made it. PAULI has a

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Speaker 1: bet that he thinks a quarterback goes in the first

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Speaker 1: thirteen picks this year, and the over unders said at

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Speaker 1: thirteen and a half, are you with Paulie first thirteen

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Speaker 1: picks we have a quarterback selected, or are you gonna

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Speaker 1: take the over? I'm with Paulie. I'm gonna go the

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Speaker 1: under on that. I think you know, it's tough obviously

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Speaker 1: because we haven't gotten a free agency yet or seeing

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Speaker 1: what happened with any type of trade market. But I

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Speaker 1: think Washington ends up taking a quarterback at eleven and

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Speaker 1: if they don't get a guy, and I don't know

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Speaker 1: that they're gonna get somebody else. I mean, there's just

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00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 1: not that many guys available, and Washington has evidently called

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Speaker 1: everybody ready. Literally they called the chiefs about Mahomes, which

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Speaker 1: is amazing. That would be great content, by the way,

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Speaker 1: to have that conversation be videoed when they ask if

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Speaker 1: Mahomes is available for trade. Yeah, I just don't know

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Speaker 1: Washington's gonna be able to get a veteran that they're

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Speaker 1: happy with, and I think at eleven they'll probably end

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Speaker 1: up taking one of these kids. So I'll go with

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Speaker 1: Paul on the under You were joking about Kenny Pickett's

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Speaker 1: small hands and the fact that you know he played outdoors,

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Speaker 1: played in Pittsburgh. How did that go over on Twitter? Darren?

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Speaker 1: It is remarkable how much people cannot sense sarcasm on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: I mean, but can we come out well, Ross, how

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00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: about sarcasm? Funt? Like you know that if you write

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00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 1: it this way in cursive or whatever, that you mean

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00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: to be sarcastic. Yeah, but that kind of ruins the fun,

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Speaker 1: you know. For a while, I was I literally for

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Speaker 1: people who didn't see it. My Twitter is at Rosstucker NFL,

532
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: and I said, Kenny Pickett's hands are way too small

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Speaker 1: for him to be able to play in a cold

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Speaker 1: weather NFL city like Pittsburgh. Knowing, by the way, I

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Speaker 1: live in Pennsylvania, I'm from Pennsylvania. I know Kenny Pickett

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Speaker 1: was just it picked the last five years. It's a joke. No,

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Speaker 1: I've gone full spectrum on this. Dan. For a while,

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Speaker 1: I thought it was funny that people were just this

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Speaker 1: dense and that, like they didn't get the joke. But

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Speaker 1: now it's actually a poor reflection on me. Like these

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Speaker 1: people either don't know who I am or they think

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Speaker 1: I'm that stupid. It's not funny, anyone, don't laugh. I'm

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Speaker 1: not funny. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Oh we actually had

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Speaker 1: a hand measurement size here on the show. I heard.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe Marvin has the smallest hands. Yeah, Marvin.

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Speaker 1: Marvin's like six two, probably two twenty, and he has

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Speaker 1: very very small, delicate hands. I'm shocked. Guess what this

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00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: is gonna surprise you. I don't have very big hands either.

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Speaker 1: I think I used to wear like an Excel glove

550
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: because when you're wearing gloves as a lineman or really

551
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Speaker 1: any player, you want it to be as tight as possible,

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Speaker 1: like you almost want to be painted on. You don't

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Speaker 1: want there to be any extra fabric at all, because

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Speaker 1: you want to feel like you're not wearing gloves even

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Speaker 1: though you are. I actually have short arms and small hands.

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Speaker 1: Those are my two worst qualities. But I have a

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Speaker 1: huge head and a crazy torso I'm basically like a

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Speaker 1: real life mister potato Head. Like it just doesn't make

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Speaker 1: sense watch. Look how big my head is now, I

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00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: can't put it like a watch. My head is way

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Speaker 1: bigger than my hand. Look at that, way bigger than

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Speaker 1: my face. Yes it is, Yes it is. I don't

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00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: have very And there was an issue like if the

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Speaker 1: way I will say this, if the weather wasn't good

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Speaker 1: and I was playing center like in Buffalo or New England,

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Speaker 1: it's not easy. It's not easy to grip the ball.

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Speaker 1: Like there is something to that. Yeah, we don't make

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Speaker 1: a big deal out of wide receiver's hands or the

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Speaker 1: center's hands, but we do make a big deal out

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Speaker 1: of the quarterback's hands. It's an issue for centers, not

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Speaker 1: as much of one as quarterbacks, obvious. So you're not

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Speaker 1: controlling the ball. You're not throwing the ball people, I

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Speaker 1: mean Dan, by the way, you should see that tweet.

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Speaker 1: People hit me back with the exact temperature of every

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Speaker 1: game he played for in Pittsburgh. People were telling me

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Speaker 1: that there was four games the Steelers played after Pitt's

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Speaker 1: last game in December and January where the temperatures fell

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Speaker 1: below I mean, people take this stuff. We realize this

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Speaker 1: is football, right, Like this is fun. He's a good quarterback,

580
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Speaker 1: Like people take some of this stuff way way too seriously.

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Speaker 1: That's why we love having you on Ross. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: joining us as always, of course, see you guys. That's

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Speaker 1: at Ross Tucker NFL. Because when I first read it,

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Speaker 1: Twitter because he is thinking Kenny Pickett can't play outside

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Speaker 1: because he has small hands, and I go, oh, okay,

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Speaker 1: he got me. And because I was gonna, I was

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Speaker 1: gonna say to paula, reach out to Ross. You know

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Speaker 1: he's gonna get roughed up. Yeah, all right, we'll take

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Speaker 1: what's on your mind today? Thanks? Good morning, Dan. I

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Speaker 1: just wanted to let Marvin though and put him in

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Speaker 1: a better mood that I have way smaller hands than

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Speaker 1: he has. I actually measured him yesterday, alive on a

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Speaker 1: call in, but I got six and a half in chance,

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Speaker 1: so didn't help Marvin out. I just want to let

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Speaker 1: him know he had bigger hands than me, so he

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Speaker 1: shouldn't feel that bad about him. So, okay, well there

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Speaker 1: Chris trying to cheer up Marvin. Do you feel better

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Speaker 1: because Chris has smaller hands than you? I feel way

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Speaker 1: better now. I cancel my therapy. Yeah, okay, some guy

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Speaker 1: you've never met has smaller hands than you. I hope

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Speaker 1: you feel better, Yes, you can. You imagine Marvin walking

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Speaker 1: to a therapist's office with his hands in his jacket

635
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: for the entire fifty minutes, in his pockets. Yeah. Yeah,

636
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: So why are you here, mister prince? Ah, I've got

637
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: small hands. Excuse what? Yes, I I have small hands.

638
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 1: I have big hands. Envy, and I can't fix it. Okay,

639
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: let me see your hands. Promised not to laugh. Oh

640
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 1: my god, they are small. Oh my god, Marvin. It's

641
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: not the size of your hands, it's what you do

642
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: with your hands that matters. PAULI sent this to me

643
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: that there was a survey done in England and it

644
00:35:55,280 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: was two thousand adults. We're voting on the sad his

645
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: song of all time. Some of the finalist rims. Everybody hurts.

646
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Shonad O'Connor's Nothing Compares to You, Clapton's Tears

647
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: in Heaven, which was written about his son, Whitney Houston's

648
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: I Will Always Love You Yesterday by the Beatles. Uh,

649
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: it's interesting. A bunch of those are covers. Well, Shonad O'Connor,

650
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: that was Prince's song, right, Whitney Houston is that's Dolly Parton? Yeah,

651
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 1: you know that. Dolly Parton wrote I Will Always Love

652
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: You and Joelene in the same day, Oh same day.

653
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: You got. You gotta pace yourself, you gotta spread it out.

654
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: That's true, one big afternoon. But they always talk about

655
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: how these songs come to you, and then you'll hear

656
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: somebody say I wrote it in fifteen minutes. I don't

657
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: know what that feeling it's like and when does it stop?

658
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 1: Because they're there are certain groups where you go they

659
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: just ran out of hits, and then you have other bands,

660
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: and you go, how do they keep doing it? Like

661
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: the Stones have this catalog where you go, how do

662
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: they do that? The Beatles, how do you do that?

663
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, Prince and you know, posthumously,

664
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 1: we're gonna be playing music that has never been released

665
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: by him. All right, let's pick out the saddest song ever, Todd.

666
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 1: I'll start with you. Cat's in the Cradle by Harry Chapin.

667
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: All right, my child, all right, just the other day

668
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 1: he came to the world, and you you will anybody

669
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: who has a son knows this fills the pain. He

670
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: learned to walk a while I was away, and he

671
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 1: was talking form anew with me, and as he grew

672
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: he'd say, I'm gonna be like you. Then you know what,

673
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be like you? All right, So that's a

674
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: good song. Cat. So is this like the uh, the

675
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: kid's gonna become like the dad and never not have

676
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: time for yes and his son? Right, yes, history repeats itself,

677
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 1: right right right, all right? See No Connor, saddest song

678
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: to you is the saddest one that always gets me.

679
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: There's a by Radiohead called Fake Plastic Trees that is

680
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 1: really a good one. Green plastic for a fiction. There's

681
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 1: this well it's it's fake plastic trees. Oh yeah, I

682
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: can't help but laugh though that he's singing about fake

683
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: plastic trees. But yeah, well it's about like human connection

684
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: in a you know, materialistic world kind of thing. You know,

685
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:39,959
Speaker 1: you might you might have to go a little differ.

686
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: I don't try to have to go that deep on

687
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: my set. There's this moment though, like two and a

688
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: half minutes into the song, say though, where it really

689
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 1: like crescendos and it's really powerful. It's a great song, Okay,

690
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,320
Speaker 1: Marv sat a song I got one by Stevie Wonder

691
00:38:54,400 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: I never dreamed, Believe in summer dream and some then

692
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: come back. Who's this about to you? Marvin? Actually they

693
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: played it at my entre funeral, he gets me, coach. Yeah,

694
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 1: she died in July, like not this, Pattrick, but in

695
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: and played it and it was just good luck topping

696
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: that one, Paul, unless you have a song about your

697
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: bed dad. You weren't laughing at that one there. Damn

698
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: you didn't ask me who my dead person is that's

699
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 1: tied to my song while you were laughing, who's the

700
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: fake planistic tree. Who is that person? Yeah, that's okay.

701
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: It's a crushing moment in my life. But I'm glad

702
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: you're laughing at it. Uh, Paully. One of my favorite

703
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: artists is a guy named warren Zevon. I think he's

704
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 1: a little old school, but people still know him. We're

705
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: Wolf in London, We're Wolf London. Warren Zevon. Warren Zevon

706
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: was great. He was on Letterman and when he was sick.

707
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: Warren Zevon got mess with leoma lung cancer. In uh

708
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 1: summer of two thousand and three, he wrote this song

709
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: after he found out he had terminal illness. It's called

710
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: keep Me in your Heart for a While. Shadows are

711
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: fun and I'm run ahead of keep Me in your

712
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: Heart for Wow. If I believe you, it doesn't mean

713
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:29,720
Speaker 1: of you and he miss keep Me in your Heart

714
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: for a While. Yeah, Paul. If you remember the movie

715
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: Funny People with Adam Sandler, Adam Sandler's character thinks he

716
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: has a terminal illness and Seth Rogan makes a mixtape

717
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,760
Speaker 1: for him and he plays this song and Sandler gets

718
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: Sandler's character gets emotional. The great use of the song.

719
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 1: I kind of liked The Long and Winding Road because

720
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: it was the end of the Beatles. It was. I

721
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: think Paul wrote it originally for Ray Charles and but

722
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 1: it was. It was the last single by the Beatles. Yes, yeah,

723
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: mar Did they play it at your funeral? Oh no,

724
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: No they didn't. They didn't. They played it at my

725
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: dead dad's funeral? Topper, Yeah, yeah, you always got that one. Yeah, yes,

726
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: mar you had a dad though. All right, you got

727
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 1: Long the Winding Road there for me? Okay, all right,

728
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: you know it's a good one. You ever listened to

729
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: Towns van z Aunt Waiting Around to Die? No, that's

730
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 1: a banger. That's a real good one. What's the cold

731
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:43,760
Speaker 1: Play one? That's kind of sad? I'll fix You? Yeah,

732
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 1: and I'll fix You. That's a good one. Yeah, there's

733
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 1: a lot of sad songs. You ever heard Glenn Campbell,

734
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 1: I'm not Gonna miss You? There's what? There's a one

735
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: it's sort of like along the lines of Paul's Warren's

736
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: Evon one. He had just been diagnosed with Alzheimer's and

737
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: I think that might be one of the last songs

738
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: he ever wrote. So who won the contest here? Marvin?

739
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: What Paul's is pretty good. No. One other one that

740
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: I used to always get very emotional is Billy, don't

741
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: be a hero. If you remember that song. He goes

742
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 1: off to war, and then she finds out that he died.

743
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: She kept telling him, don't be a hero, come back

744
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 1: and make me your wife, and Marvin just laughed at you.

745
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: He did. Yeah, yeah, you didn't mean to, but you did. Billy,

746
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: don't be hero, come back to me. That's making me sad. Yeah.

747
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,439
Speaker 1: Then she got a letter that told how Billy died

748
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: that day. The letter said he was a hero. She

749
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: should be proud he died that way. She threw the

750
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: letter away. Can anybody taught that everybody hurts from marm

751
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: sometimes a pretty good one, Yeah, pretty good. Final hour

752
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: coming up, More phone calls, less singing. Nick Nick Wright

753
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,640
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