1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Thank you for being with us. 2 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 2: Straight out to the courthouse, Standing by Lauren Knlin, investigative 3 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 2: reporter and host of Pop Crime TV. Lauren, thank you 4 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 2: for being with us. You've been in the courtroom all day. 5 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: What happened? Start at the beginning, Nancy. 6 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 3: We heard testimony from Capricorn Clark and she was Ditty's 7 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 3: personal assistant at one point. She was a global marketing manager, 8 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 3: a brand ambassador and also was Cassi Evan TURA's brand 9 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 3: marketing manager. And she worked on and off for Diddy 10 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 3: from two thousand and four up until twenty eighteen. And 11 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 3: her testimony, Nancy was very powerful. She has witnessed a 12 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 3: lot of different incidents and she was the assistant that 13 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 3: Diddy kidnapped at gunpoint to allegedly go and quote kill 14 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 3: kid Cuddy. And these are words from Capricorn Clark herself 15 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 3: on the stand. She was awoken at five or six 16 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 3: am and it was Diddy at her door. She said 17 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 3: he had a gun. He came into her house and 18 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 3: he told her that they were going to go and 19 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 3: kill kid Cuddy. Not only that, Nancy, she talked about 20 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 3: how one of her friends had a baby with Shooge 21 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 3: night and on her first day did he brought her 22 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 3: into Central Park after nine pm with a bodyguard and 23 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 3: basically said that he would have to kill her if 24 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 3: anything happened when it came to Shug. She also testified 25 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 3: that she witnessed him talking to fifty Cents manager in 26 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 3: an elevator. And this is someone named Chris Lady, who 27 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 3: was also his manager at the time. They were doing 28 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 3: some kind of MTV press thing and in the elevator 29 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 3: he had a problem with fifty Cent and he told 30 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 3: his manager, I don't like this back and forth. I 31 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 3: prefer guns. She testified that she got alopecia from stress 32 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 3: from working from eight am to four am, and at 33 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 3: one point she testified that she went to HR about 34 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 3: overtime and the HR person calculated about eighty thousand dollars 35 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 3: that she was owed in overtime, and Capricorn Clark testified 36 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 3: that he ripped it up. Now. Some of the most 37 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 3: heart wrenching testimony that she gave today was after the 38 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 3: Kid Cutty incident, when she was at Sean Colmes's house 39 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 3: with Cassie Ventura. She testified that he kicked Cassie over 40 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 3: and over and over again until she was on the 41 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 3: ground in a fetal position, and she said that each 42 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 3: time he would kick her, Cassie would take a few 43 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 3: steps back, and they started this. He started his meat 44 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 3: down in the house and they ended up on the street. 45 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 3: And she testified that she, you know, she called different 46 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 3: bodyguards when the bodyguard on duty wasn't doing anything, and 47 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 3: she said, you know, help her, help her. And then 48 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 3: when Diddy finally kicked her out of the house that day, 49 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 3: she called Regina Ventura and she was very tearful on 50 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 3: the stand when she said this. She said, he is 51 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 3: beating the living crap out of your daughter. And I'm paraphrasing, 52 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 3: and she said, I can't do anything. I am in 53 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 3: over my head. You need to do something. And it was, 54 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 3: I mean, the jury was I could tell they were 55 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 3: writing things down. They were on the edge of their seat. 56 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 3: It was very very dramatic. 57 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: Nancy Lauren Collin joining us at the courthouse. 58 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 2: So, first of all, Capricorn says that working for Diddy 59 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 2: was making her go bald. 60 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: She was losing her hair. 61 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 3: Yes, she said that she developed a condition called alopecia, 62 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 3: and the doctor basically said, you need less stress in 63 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 3: your life to try to manage this. 64 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 2: Is it true, Lauren that, according to her sworn testimony, 65 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 2: that Shawn Combs fired her for not ritting out Cassie 66 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 2: dating kid Cuddy. 67 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 3: Yes, she describes being terminated multiple times. At one point 68 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 3: in two thousand and four, she said she was briefly 69 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 3: terminated over a girlfriend Diddy had, and then in twenty 70 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 3: twelve she was terminated over Cassie. But she said that 71 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 3: the what the the excuse they used was that she 72 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 3: didn't get a vacation authorized or something like that, but 73 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 3: really she she knew it was because of Cassie. 74 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: Capricorn. 75 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 2: Clark says on the stand, quote, I lost everything, And 76 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 2: she is talking about all of her employment benefits, like 77 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 2: her four oh one K, her health insurance all down 78 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 2: the crapper, And isn't it true that comes according to 79 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: her using infamous words, you'll never work. 80 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: In this town again. 81 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 2: All these people aren't your friends, and that he would 82 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 2: make her kill herself. 83 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 3: He said that she'd never work in this town again. 84 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 3: And she actually testified that she was able to land 85 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 3: a job and then that job fell through. And yes, 86 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 3: at another point he when he was making threats to her, 87 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 3: she said there was something like fifty threats between the 88 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 3: incident with kid Cutty up until she was fired, which 89 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 3: is a few months later. She said, there was about 90 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 3: fifty different threats, and yes, one of them was you know, 91 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 3: I hope you kill yourself or something along those lines. 92 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 2: According to to the testimonies we are as we were 93 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 2: hearing it from the witness stand, he said Shancombe said 94 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 2: that he would make her kill her self, and then 95 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 2: in a later conversation, he says he's quizzing her capricorn 96 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: claw about what she knew regarding Venture's relationship with Kid Cuddy, 97 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 2: questioning exactly what she knew when she knew it. He 98 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 2: gets angry, of course and says, quote, I should kill 99 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 2: you bitches. 100 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 3: Yes, and she also described something that to me it 101 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 3: was out of a horror movie. But when she was 102 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 3: in the car and Diddy was inside Kid Cutty's house 103 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 3: with a security guard or an associate, she said that 104 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 3: she made a call to Cathy's burner phone, and after 105 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 3: she called Cassie on this burner number, she quickly changed 106 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 3: it to her friend's name, And when Diddy got back 107 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 3: in the car and she hung up, he said, who 108 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 3: are you on the phone? With and she said, my friend. 109 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 3: He took her phone and he called the number back 110 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 3: and he realized it was Cassie, and she said that 111 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 3: he was angrier than he was even showing up to 112 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 3: her house that night, and she was terrified. 113 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 2: Another thing that we learned from Capricorn Clark on the 114 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 2: Stand a long time Diddy protege, is that these are. 115 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: Her words, not mine. 116 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 2: After the kid cutting incident, following the break in, when 117 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 2: Shawn comes goes in to his Love Rivals apartment and 118 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 2: starts opening up Chanelle gift bags. 119 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: From under the Christmas tree to see what he was 120 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: going to give Cassie. 121 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 2: For Christmas, Capricorn Clark tells the court that after that 122 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 2: comes quote, came at Cassie one hundred percent full force, 123 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 2: one hundred percent full force, kicking her while she crouched, 124 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 2: getting more and more in a fetal position, Cassie crying 125 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 2: and comes kicking her over and over and over. 126 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: Is that right? 127 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 3: Yes? That was so difficult to hear in the court room. 128 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 3: Let me tell you that was that was tough. And 129 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 3: that was when she testified that Cassie would be crying, 130 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 3: taking a few steps back as he would kick her, 131 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 3: and they wound up in the street starting from the 132 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 3: house now Capricorn Clark, by the way. She also testified 133 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 3: about an incident where she was at one of his homes. 134 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 3: I believe it was his Miami home, and she made 135 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 3: a comment she was exhausted, something like in front of 136 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 3: the chef, you know, she said, I hate it here, 137 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 3: and the chef told this to Diddy, and Ditty freaked out, 138 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 3: and she described him using seventy percent of his force 139 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 3: to shove her in the shoulders all the way back 140 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 3: out of his house. She described herself being shoved about 141 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 3: thirty yards back through the butler door from the kitchen, 142 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 3: and he just said, you know, get the f out, 143 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 3: Get the f out now. 144 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 2: She also stated that she did not personally intervene when 145 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 2: Ventura was taking these beatings because she was convinced comes 146 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 2: with in turn on her and beat her the same way. 147 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 3: He actually said that, he said something like, you know, 148 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 3: don't even think about it, or I'm going to open 149 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 3: this up on you. 150 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: How is the courtroom reacting to Capricorn Clark's testimony. 151 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 3: I mean it was intense. You could hear a pin drop. 152 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 3: I saw the jury's faces going back to the lawyer 153 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 3: back to Capricorn Clark and then just writing things down. 154 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 3: I mean, I have to say that this testimony, in 155 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 3: my opinion, was one of the strongest that we've heard 156 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 3: thus far. 157 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 4: She was so. 158 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 3: Credible and so disturbed, and you know, but she also 159 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 3: had this this thing about her where she would say, 160 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 3: you know, it's complicated, and it was. It was very genuine. 161 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 3: She was genuinely scared. She felt genuinely trapped, and these 162 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 3: are her words, but you could also see it coming 163 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 3: out in her emotions and everything she said about the 164 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 3: knife that she she got kidnapped, You kind of could 165 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 3: imagine yourself being in her position because she was just 166 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 3: very detailed in her her her storytelling, and nothing seemed 167 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 3: to waiver. She was very confident, she remembered everything, and 168 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 3: if she didn't, you know, she would be upfront about 169 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 3: it and forthright. She was very cooperative and again just 170 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 3: I mean, it was emotional, It was emotional, and it 171 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 3: was scary. 172 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 2: Didn't She also testify Lauren Conlin that Shawn Colbs actually 173 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 2: hailed her Capricorn Clark hostage until Cassie Venturra would come 174 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 2: over after the kid Cutty incident. 175 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 3: So she described after they left Kid Cutty's house, they 176 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 3: stopped at this club and he Shawn Holmes got out 177 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 3: of the car. She stayed in the car, and he 178 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 3: instructed her to call Cassie and tell Cassie that if 179 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 3: she doesn't come to Seawan Colmes's house, that he would 180 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 3: not let Capricorn Clark go. And so Clark said that 181 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 3: Cassie appeared very very calm and demeanor on the phone, 182 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 3: and she said, I'll be right there joining us. 183 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 2: In addition to Lauren Colin from Pop Crime TV standing 184 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 2: by at the courthouse, full panel of experts straight out 185 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 2: to Greg Morse, veteran criminal defense attorney at Morse Legal, 186 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 2: author of the Untested on Amazon. You know, Morse, you 187 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 2: keep saying, over and over, it's like the chorus of 188 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 2: a hymn at a Methodist charge. We're singing it again 189 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 2: and again. You keep saying, yes, they've proven he's a horrible, vile, 190 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 2: despicable person, but have they proven sex trafficking or criminal enterprise? 191 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 2: Can you actually say with a straight face that all 192 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 2: of these employees doing his bidding for criminal reasons does 193 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 2: not equal a criminal enterprise. 194 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 5: Yeah, it doesn't equal a criminal enterprise. As to how 195 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 5: he's charged. He's charged with a running a criminal enterprise 196 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 5: to commit sex trafficking by forcer coercion. These people testified again, yeah, 197 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 5: to acts that are horrible. Okay, so they had to 198 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 5: undergo a lie detector. What does that have to do 199 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 5: with a criminal enterprise. The main part of the government's 200 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:06,959 Speaker 5: case that's missing. 201 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 2: Is the first baking into his house, beating someone, if 202 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,199 Speaker 2: they won't do a freak off, all those are crimes. 203 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 5: Well, there's no evidence that Cassie was beaten, so she 204 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 5: would do a freak off. She actually said the opposite. 205 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 6: That's all. 206 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 5: My point is that all of these facts, the explosion 207 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 5: of the car, none of that has been linked to 208 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 5: force broader coersion, to force Cassie Ventura into sex trafficking. 209 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 6: She actually said the opposite. 210 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 5: What makes it difficult and why the defense is probably 211 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 5: not going to win, is they have to defend so 212 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 5: many horrible acts. 213 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 6: They have to defend an. 214 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 5: Arson, a car bomb, even though he was in charged 215 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 5: and no matter what you say about that, it takes 216 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 5: its toll on the jury against the defendant. But in 217 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 5: this particular case, there's been no evidence still that this 218 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 5: is all done to sex traffic. What it sounds like 219 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 5: to me is Sean Holmes music. He wanted to live 220 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 5: the lifestyle that he and his artist wrapped about, but 221 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 5: he's just not that type of guy. So he pretended 222 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 5: to be a tough guy. And that's all he is, 223 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 5: is a pretend tough guy. And that's what this evidence shows. 224 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 2: I'm so tempted to cut your mic, but I want 225 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 2: to see your face when I read what is in 226 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 2: the five count indictment. Prosecutors state that comes quote relied 227 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 2: on employees, resources, and influence of a multifaceted business, creating 228 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 2: an enterprise whose members and associates engaged in, among other things, sex, trafficking, 229 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 2: forced labor, kidnapping, arson, bribery, and obstruction. We have the 230 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 2: arson of kid cutties car. He had someone create a 231 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 2: Molotov cocktail and throw it. Obstruction, bribery occurred, and that 232 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 2: guy's caught on video. The guy that answered the call 233 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 2: at the Intercontinental Hotel, he tried to bribe him with 234 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 2: a big stack of money. We've heard that testimony on 235 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 2: the stand. Forced labor. You've just heard of what Capricorn 236 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 2: Clark testified to along with other assistants. The state is 237 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 2: making out the reco case right there. Well, when you 238 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 2: have employees and you use your business resources like your 239 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 2: credit card or your employees or your accountant to send 240 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,439 Speaker 2: an extortion threat to Cassie's mother we heard about last week. 241 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 2: The accountant did that and gave instructions on how to 242 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 2: wire the blackmail money. 243 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: For Pete's sake. 244 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 2: He's using his business, his business employees, his business resources 245 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 2: to affect crimes. 246 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 1: That's what a criminal enterprise is. 247 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 6: But it's not just any crime. 248 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 5: They charged it as sex trafficking. You can't just have 249 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 5: maybe it's okay. 250 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 6: His purpose was to sell drugs. 251 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 5: His purpose was to steal identity that. 252 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: Is mine, Lynn Shaw. I still hear him. Why is 253 00:13:58,720 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 1: that happening? 254 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 2: I saw joining me founder director Lann's Warriors dedicated to 255 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 2: ending sex trafficking. Could you take Greg Morris to school 256 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 2: now on sex trafficking? 257 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 7: Let me tell you something, Greg, this is the prime 258 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 7: example of how many lawyers and the justice system do 259 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 7: not understand what victims, survivors of this exploitation and years 260 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 7: of it go through. This is the biggest problem we 261 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 7: have when we're in the courts. Nobody understands vulnerable people. 262 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 7: I don't care what they said in text messages, what 263 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 7: they say out loud. They're not understanding the psychological damage 264 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 7: and how people play out these victims of all of this. 265 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 7: This is being laid out for a criminal enterprise. Triple 266 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 7: D because I'm naming him now, Dirty Diddy Degenerate as 267 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 7: of today is part of a whole crime syndicate. I 268 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 7: don't know, forced labor. I mean that's part of human trafficking. 269 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 7: This is going to be a reco case, Okay, laying 270 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 7: out all of this. I am tired of everybody not 271 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 7: understand danding about the victims and survivors. I'm tired of 272 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 7: everybody defending these these criminals or I guess I'm supposed 273 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 7: to say alleged criminals, but everybody, and Greg included, come 274 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 7: on now, come to the Warriors School and let me 275 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 7: teach you about victims and survivors because we have to change. 276 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 7: We have to change this all up right now. 277 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 2: It was Memorial Day this past weekend, and I don't 278 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 2: know what you did, but I know what Diddy did. 279 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: Shawn comes behind bars. Listen. 280 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 8: Diddy rings in his first Memorial Day behind bars, a 281 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 8: far cry from his days at throwing Sarrock sponsored yacht parties. 282 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 8: Sean Combs may have celebrated the long weekend with some 283 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 8: friendly cell block competition and mate's allowed to play three 284 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 8: on three basketball, board games, spades or dominoes. Comes enjoyed 285 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 8: fruit and cereal for breakfast, barbecue chicken with mac and cheese, 286 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 8: and a holiday deserve for lunch, and chicken and rice 287 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 8: with whole wheat bread for dinner. 288 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 2: Barbecue chicken, board games, friendly cell block competition, three on 289 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 2: three mac and cheese, holiday dessert, Lynn Shaw, while he. 290 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: Is living the life in his dorm style unit. 291 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 2: How do you think those women that were allegedly drugged 292 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 2: and their drinks stripped, raped and sodomized on video, and 293 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 2: then later that video was held over their heads for 294 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 2: extortion according to the prosecution, how do you think they 295 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 2: feel about Diddy King Shawn Comes, King of the cell block, 296 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 2: getting served barbecue chicken and playing three on three and 297 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 2: having a special holiday dessert. 298 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 7: You know what, Nancy, I am so embarrassed that all 299 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 7: of these victims, you know, all of these survivors have 300 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 7: to hear about this. What happened to the good old 301 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 7: days where you had to scrub out the cells and 302 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 7: clean the toilets and things like that, you know, wash 303 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 7: the floors with a toothbrush. This is what this guy 304 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 7: deserves because all of these victims, and I'm going to 305 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 7: remind everybody a lot of them have never come forward. 306 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 7: They'd rather just disappear, forget about it. They're too scared. 307 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 7: So you know what, I don't care. Give them bad 308 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 7: tuna fish. Let him get you know, some food poisoning. 309 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 7: We can't focus on this. Let us keep our focus 310 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 7: again on victims and survivors. 311 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 3: I don't care. 312 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 7: He should get nothing, nothing, nothing. He should be doing 313 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 7: some sort of community service within the jail or something. 314 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 7: I don't want to hear about his macaroni and cheese 315 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 7: and his Barbaca chicken. 316 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 1: That's a lot with Are you kidding, Lynn Shaw? 317 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 2: Yes, because tonight we're learning exactly how badly he trusted 318 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 2: his hotel rooms. 319 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: Listen. 320 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 9: Former assistant George Kaplan testifies no one specifically instructed him 321 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 9: to clean up Frank Black's hotel rooms, but Kaplan did 322 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,479 Speaker 9: not trust hotel staff with Comb's privacy and felt it 323 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 9: was his responsibility to protect his boss's public image. Kaplan says, 324 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 9: you would pick up empty bottles of baby oil liquor 325 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 9: and read and occasionally get rid of drugs ahead of 326 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 9: cleaning staff arriving. To make sure no one learned anything 327 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 9: about the mogul. He didn't want them to know. 328 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 2: And that is why to renounce Psychoanalyst joining us out 329 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 2: of LA Doctor Bethany Marshall. This weekend, I invested in 330 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:25,959 Speaker 2: a hotel ditty stick. Why because Shawn Colmbs would have 331 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 2: his employees, his assistants go wade through all that baby oil, 332 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 2: bodily fluids, sperm, sweat and more. Think about it, rape, sodomy, 333 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 2: people drinking, people doing drugs, Shawn Combs sitting back, talking 334 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 2: on the phone and masturbating during all of this. 335 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 1: Directing the whole thing. 336 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 2: Then he would, after all of that and everybody goes home, 337 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 2: the assistance would have to come in and clean up 338 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 2: because they did not want Shawn Combs's image tarnished. So 339 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 2: what does that mean to me, Doctor Bethany Marshall. That 340 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 2: means that before I go to the Hermitage or I 341 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 2: go to the Intercontinental, I'm taking my hotel diddy wand 342 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 2: my ditty stick can pick up all of those germs 343 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 2: and clean it with ultraviolet rays. I didn't put any 344 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 2: stock into this until I started investigating this case, and 345 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 2: so then they would go Dtor Bethany and make the 346 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 2: assistance go and like fluff the pillows and arrange them 347 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 2: so the future guests and the hotel employees would come 348 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 2: in and. 349 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: Not know what had just happened. 350 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 2: You think I'm going to go sit on a sofa 351 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 2: in that hotel room, No, HBLN. Neither me or the 352 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 2: twins are sitting on that sofa after Dinny's had a. 353 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: Freak off in there. They kept me flump the pillows 354 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: all they want to. 355 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 4: I'm never gonna look at a hotel room in the 356 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 4: same way again. I'm never gonna lie on a comforter cover. 357 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 4: I will never go say it the Four Seasons or 358 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 4: the Intercontinental, which by the way, is just down the 359 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 4: road from my my Beverly Hills office. You know, Nancy, 360 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 4: he abused everybody on every level. Even the making people 361 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 4: go in and clean up all these bodily fluids is 362 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 4: yet another form of abuse he abused. 363 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 2: In every I mean, you're an LA psycho analyst. Certainly 364 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:33,959 Speaker 2: you've had to say the word sperm urine faces. 365 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: These ways, you know what. Listen. 366 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 10: Friedrich Zimour, the manager of Le Air Mettage Hotel in 367 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 10: Beverly Hills discussed Sean Combs's history of reservations. Combs opened 368 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 10: an account in two thousand and six, but three years 369 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 10: later the name was changed to Jackie Starr, then Frank White, 370 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 10: then Frank Black, and Ryan Lopez. The notes stayed the same. 371 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 10: Number one monitor outside the room to spray air freshener. 372 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 10: Number two place the room out of order upon departure 373 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 10: for deep cleaning, always spills candlewax on everything and uses 374 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:12,479 Speaker 10: excessive amounts of oil. And number three please authorize an 375 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 10: extra one thousand dollars at check in to cover room damages. 376 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 2: Crime stories with Nancy Grace, Robert Crispin joining me, former 377 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 2: vice former homicide, former Federal Task Force officer, US Department 378 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 2: of Justice, blah blah blah blah. Now Crispin special Investigations. Crispin, 379 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 2: you know what. I go right up to that jury 380 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 2: and I. 381 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: Would show them the hotel notes. 382 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 2: Diss wait a minute, it says it all and then 383 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 2: case closed monitor outside the room to spray air freshen 384 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 2: These are in the notes when Shawn comes would check 385 00:21:54,280 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 2: into the Lamtage place room out of order. A one 386 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 2: comes departure for deep deep cleaning, always in caps. 387 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: Always, Yeah, let's look at him. 388 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 2: Always spills candle wax on everything and uses excessive amounts 389 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 2: of oil. And please authorize an extra one thousand dollars 390 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:23,479 Speaker 2: at check in to cover room damages. Okay, you need 391 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 2: to go out and get one of these. Okay, I'm 392 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 2: telling you, because this thing lights up and it catches 393 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 2: all of Sean comes his bodily fluids that he left 394 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 2: on the sofas before he made his assistant fluff the pillows. 395 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,959 Speaker 2: I mean that State's exhibit number one right there. That's disgusting. 396 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 11: Yeah, so that's some pretty damning evidence when you have 397 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:48,199 Speaker 11: handwritten notes about certain things to do. And I'm sure 398 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 11: back here at his house here on Star Island in 399 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 11: Miami Beach, this was a plethor of that activity year. 400 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 11: And I can only imagine the cleanup for this size 401 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 11: of house versus is. 402 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 6: A hotel room. Quite the difference. 403 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 2: And so, Greg Morse, you're telling me, I can't even 404 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 2: imagine the Pandora's box of germs behind Robert Crispin and 405 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 2: that Miami. 406 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 1: Mansion which was also subject to a raid. 407 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 2: Greg Moore, so you're telling me that Sean Combs employees 408 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 2: willingly cleaned up his bodily fluids as like putting perfume 409 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 2: on the pig, his sperm, his sweat, victims bodily fluids. 410 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: After rape and sodomy. 411 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 6: What it was their job. 412 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 12: They were. 413 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 2: Paid by the company to clean up after the freak offs, 414 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 2: which is using the company's resources to enterprise and of itself. 415 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 5: This is all the senses it adds for using a 416 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 5: motel six instead of a high end hotel. This is 417 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 5: not illegal in and of itself, as long as Cassie 418 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 5: and the other people keep saying I did this consensually, 419 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 5: maybe I didn't like it. 420 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 6: She literally said that. 421 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 5: In fact, one of the sex workers even said Cassie 422 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 5: paid me and she seemed fine. So you're taking information that, frankly, 423 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 5: a lot f fine. 424 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 2: She's saying dying Benny Marshall, because she would be beaten 425 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 2: out of regard if she didn't. 426 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 4: She seemed fine, Nancy, because she was dissociated and he 427 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 4: was keeping her addicted. She tried to go to rehab 428 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 4: five different times and he kept bringing her back. Nancy. 429 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 4: This was a reign of terror. This is so far, 430 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 4: so much more than a criminal enterprise. This is like 431 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 4: a sex cult. And Nancy, there's a drug that has 432 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 4: not been mentioned at all that I can hear, and 433 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 4: that is steroids, if we can think of that as 434 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 4: a drug. He puts so much energy into terrorizing, kidnapping, 435 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 4: spilling bodily fluids all over the place, and it puts 436 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,919 Speaker 4: a lot all that energy at all, that rage seems 437 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 4: to me like he's rooted out most of the time. 438 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 9: Cassie says Colmes wanted her glistening at all times and 439 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 9: had her reapply heated baby oil as often as every 440 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 9: five minutes, and during one performance, even made her get 441 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 9: into a. 442 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 1: Kiddie pool of baby oil. 443 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 9: Afterwards, staff members were charged with cleaning up but with 444 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 9: baby oil and bodily fluids all over the floors, walls, 445 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 9: and door handles. Combs was frequently charged for damages to 446 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 9: hotel rooms. Negotiations handled by Comb's assistants dirty Ditty disciples. 447 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 4: Diddy was menacing, threatening, intimidating. 448 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 11: And its influence and it's his power that controlled them. 449 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 4: They are terrified of him. 450 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 2: Is Diddy's world and we're all just living in it, 451 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 2: not joining us. Tonight, a very special guest known by 452 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 2: Minnie as quote the pun assured that's a moniker. 453 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 1: His real name Sharray Hayes. Mister Hayes, thank you for 454 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: being with us. 455 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 6: Oh my pleasure. Thanks for having me. 456 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 1: Mister Hayes. 457 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 2: When did you first learn that your former client, Shaun 458 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 2: Comes had been indicted in the multi count federal indictment 459 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 2: for sex trafficking. 460 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,199 Speaker 13: Yeah, I was contacted probably about me and four months 461 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 13: prior to. 462 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 6: The charge is actually coming about. Believe it or not. 463 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 13: I had a lighthearted conversation initially with the federal investigators. 464 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 2: That I find that very hard to believe the fans 465 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 2: had a lighthearted conversation. 466 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 1: What do you mean by that? 467 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 13: Well, I was told that I was one of hundreds 468 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 13: of people that would being an interviewed. They were just 469 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 13: doing their due diligence, and you know, it was a 470 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 13: brief of They just wanted a brief summary of what 471 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 13: my interactions was. Me personally, I never thought my involvement 472 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 13: was significant, so I kind of just said, hey, guys, 473 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 13: I don't really have much for you. 474 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 6: I was in state. I understood trafficking had to be 475 00:26:58,440 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 6: out of state scenario. 476 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 13: And I also told him I didn't see any aggression, 477 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 13: any physical abuse, anything to that degree, so I was 478 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 13: kind of unaware of my involvement. So the conversation was brief, 479 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 13: about twenty minutes at my apartment, and I never even 480 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 13: thought I would hear from anybody again. 481 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: Well, I've got a question. 482 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 2: If everything was normal, and your job with Sean Combs, 483 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 2: your sex job with him, was just like every other job, 484 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 2: then why did you lose your erection and couldn't perform well. 485 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 6: Like every other job? Is out of context. 486 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 13: I was a maleshipper, so sex work wasn't something that 487 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,360 Speaker 13: I did for a living, So it was completely out 488 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 13: of my zone to be in a scenario with a 489 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 13: woman who at the time I thought it was her 490 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 13: husband being in a room being a part. 491 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 6: Of a sexual activity. 492 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 13: Especially in the scenario that I described, he had on 493 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 13: a burke a veil over his face. 494 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 2: He'sid, okay, I want to see his face place poo woa, whoa, whoa, whoa. 495 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 2: Do you prefer to be called Chera, mister Hayes, or 496 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 2: the punisher? 497 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 13: Believe it or not, I'm called to all three on 498 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 13: a daily basis, so I'm fine with any evil one. 499 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with mister Hayes, mister Hayes, could you 500 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 2: repeat what you just said about the burka, And I'm 501 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 2: going to get back to your lack of erection in 502 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 2: a moment. 503 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: I'm not letting that go. I gotta nail that down 504 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: because you say, oh, it was just business as usual. 505 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 2: But I bet you don't lose your erection every time 506 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 2: you perform, right, Is that like a hazard of the job. 507 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: But first, back to the burka. 508 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 13: Yeah, so it's it's obviously seeing an adult male in 509 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 13: a in a burka is not something that is normal. 510 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 13: It was surprising when he first came out, and we remember, 511 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 13: I have no idea who they are at this point, 512 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 13: and when it's framed to me, Miss Materia told me 513 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 13: we're gonna set the scene, we're gonna do oil, and 514 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 13: my husband's eventually gonna walk out. 515 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 6: So when he comes out with do you. 516 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: Mean by that we're gonna do oil? 517 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 6: Yeah? If I'm not sure, if you're remember my testimony, but. 518 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: The will I've never been to a freak off. 519 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 13: No, not the freak off. My testimony, my testimony and 520 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 13: my testimony. 521 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: What does it mean to oil? 522 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 6: It's like a mutual massage. 523 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 13: So freak Off started off the same way where we 524 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 13: did a mutual individual massage. We put oil on ourselves 525 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 13: and then oil on each other, which led to sexual activity. 526 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: Okay, so you did oil. 527 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 2: Can we get back to the burker, because a traditional 528 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 2: burka involves a conservative, musclem Muslim female being covered in 529 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 2: a dark material from head to risk to toe. But 530 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 2: isn't it true, mister Combs only were a burka from 531 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 2: the neck up, from the neck down, he was butt naked. 532 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 13: That is correct, That is correct. That is the situation 533 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 13: I found myself in. 534 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 6: It was, it. 535 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 13: Was very odd. It made it difficult to concentrate and 536 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 13: to focus. So I'm sure you can see how that 537 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 13: leads to and I guess. 538 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: A direction. 539 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm told stealing that an erection malfunction. 540 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: Okay, direction back to the burker. 541 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 2: So at that time, you had no idea it was 542 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 2: come sitting over there with a burker from here up right. 543 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 6: No idea. 544 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 13: I thought it was just a beautiful woman's husband, that 545 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 13: they were into some sort of fetish, and I was 546 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 13: not expecting them to walk out and that attire, not 547 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 13: at all. 548 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: What was Burkerman doing during that session? 549 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 13: Well, well, he was set up in a table across 550 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 13: the room where he would pace back and forth to 551 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 13: kind of get a I guess, an angle of however 552 00:30:58,320 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 13: he wanted to view. 553 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 2: He would give, repeat, repeat, repeat what I'm making a 554 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 2: note here? 555 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: What did you just say about an angle? 556 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 13: He was positioned to cost the room and he would 557 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 13: kind of peace back and forth to look at us 558 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 13: on the couches from different angles, and based on those angles, 559 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 13: he would get You. 560 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 2: Know why that's important, mister Hayes. That's important because that 561 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 2: echoes I've been very lighthearted up until this point point, 562 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 2: but you know, I'm a crime victim. And many of 563 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 2: the crime victims in this case have stated that they 564 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 2: would be drugged in their drinks or some other way, 565 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 2: and they would wake up the next morning and their 566 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 2: vaginas and their rear ends would be hurting right, and 567 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 2: then they would be shown a video of the free 568 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 2: cough and threatened that if they ever went public about it, 569 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 2: that that video would be released. Now, we've also heard 570 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 2: reports that comes would go to different angles to get 571 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 2: the best angle, positioning the woman's limbs to get the 572 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 2: best angle. 573 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: For the rape. And now what you're saying echoes that. 574 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 2: And I bet you had no idea that other women 575 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 2: have said that, and now you, mister Hayes, aka the punisher, 576 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 2: you are corroborating what these other witnesses and or victims 577 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 2: are saying. That's very critical in my mind because you 578 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 2: may know this. A lot of times, defense attorneys like 579 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 2: Greg Moore Soy make a very very good living of 580 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 2: discrediting sex attack victims. But a way to bolster a 581 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 2: sex attack victims testimony is through testimony like what you 582 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 2: just said. Because see when we take a home video 583 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 2: my husband David, he doesn't go from angle to angle 584 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 2: trying to get the best angle. I mean, I'm like, 585 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 2: if you'll turned the phone on correctly. So that's very 586 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 2: interesting that that mirror's behavior. Other victims have said. Now 587 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 2: let me get back to Okay, the burka. So you're 588 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 2: in there and during that session, let me put it euphemistically, 589 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 2: Sean Combs is going from angle to angle trying to 590 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 2: get the best angle. What else, if anything, did he do? 591 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 6: He's he's also pleasure in itself. 592 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 13: There's a he's holding a bottle of astro glide, he's masturbating, 593 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 13: and he's giving again subtle instructions to miss Ventura in 594 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 13: terms of what candles like just mostly based on the 595 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 13: lighting the candles in the room and the position of 596 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 13: her body. Uh and mind and conjuncting to our touching 597 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 13: each other and the oil. 598 00:33:49,760 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: Plan crime stories with Nancy Grace. Mister Hay, thank you 599 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: for being with us. 600 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 2: You know what, if you could, could you be specific? 601 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 2: You stated that Sean Comes directed Cassie Ventura to move 602 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 2: her body. 603 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 1: Those were your words. What exactly did he ask her 604 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: to do? 605 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 13: And this occasion there was nothing overtly sexual. It was 606 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:28,800 Speaker 13: all based on angles to see lighting and just. 607 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 6: Just a massage. You know. 608 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 13: My testimony is about the first interaction. There was no 609 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 13: actual sex in terms of oral or penetrative. It was 610 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 13: just kind of like a mutual massage and it wrapped 611 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 13: up at that. 612 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 2: Okay, so you got paid a lot of money to 613 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 2: give somebody a massage. Did you ever actually have sex 614 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,800 Speaker 2: or as you said, penetration of Cassie Ventura? 615 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 6: Yes, yes, in a leaders did. 616 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 2: Seawan Comes direct her regarding any movement of her limbs 617 00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 2: as you first said, No. 618 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 6: There was no old direction in regards to sex itself. 619 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 2: Just moving candles to get a better angle, Is that 620 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 2: what you said? 621 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 6: Yeah? 622 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 13: Candles candles for lighting on our bodies and then sometimes 623 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 13: the position and of her in conjunction to me. 624 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 6: He never said a word to me. 625 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 13: Everything was directed at miss Ventura based on like I said, 626 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 13: these sol cues or directions. 627 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: Were you dressed up in any particular outfit, I was not. 628 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:32,280 Speaker 13: I was instructed to just come out in a towel, nude, 629 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 13: with just a towel. 630 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 6: I would always begin in a towel. 631 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 2: Later, you stated it became difficult for you to maintain 632 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 2: focus under Combs's stare. 633 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:41,800 Speaker 1: Is that true? 634 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 13: Yes, Like like I said earlier, it was always a 635 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 13: discomfort having a woman's partner in a room once I 636 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 13: did realize who they were. 637 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 2: Please, are you telling me you've never done a threesome before? 638 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 6: Now with not? 639 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 13: Now with two guys? Two guys and the girls considered a. 640 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 2: Train so you got comes direct to you and staring 641 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 2: at you. 642 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: And last question, did you ever see one of these? 643 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 6: No, I. 644 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 2: Let me. 645 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: Anything anything like that. 646 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 13: There was a conscious effort for my peripherial vision to 647 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 13: stay above the neckline, so I have no how long So. 648 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 2: You know I'm talking about coms is Penis. 649 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 6: Oh, I'm I've I've seen the clips. 650 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 13: Yeah, I'm quite sure what you're referring to, and I 651 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 13: cannot coroborate those facts. 652 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 6: Unfortunately, your even just just a midge, I cannot coroborate. 653 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 1: Nice to meet you, You got. 654 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 10: It, Sean Diddy. Combs has quite the extensive beauty routine. 655 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 10: Moguls Favor products are very high end, including the new 656 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 10: Face Trinity facial trainer that uses microcurrents and red light 657 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,479 Speaker 10: therapy for anti aging treatments, on sale for a cool 658 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 10: five hundred and ninety five dollars. Comb Squares by Naturra 659 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,840 Speaker 10: Bisa products. They're one hundred and fifty five dollars C 660 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 10: plus C vitamin cream in his bathroom counter in raid photos. 661 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 10: The Nars Optimal Brightening Cream also in Combs's arsenal, retailing 662 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:28,240 Speaker 10: at eighty dollars. 663 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 14: Luxury choices including Shawn John Cologne. Shawn Comb's skincare essentials 664 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:37,720 Speaker 14: are Lines, Radiancy Cream, Way Scalp Scrub, Mario Bodescu's Line 665 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 14: and Quality Sheet Mask, which Hazel Hemp's Lotion, Exotics, after 666 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 14: shave cream, mel hair oil, and Shay Moisture body scrub. 667 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: Good luck getting your mits on that. 668 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 2: In the pen, Shawn Combs and we have obtained some 669 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 2: video of the many, many beauty treatments that oh okay, 670 00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 2: that Shawn Combs enjoys. This is from Dinny's official instat. 671 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:01,839 Speaker 1: What about It? Lynn Shaw? 672 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,760 Speaker 2: Did you see that facial? And we see actually getting 673 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,280 Speaker 2: a facial on his feet? 674 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 7: To Lynnshaw, I was so focused on that big foot. 675 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 7: I'm disgusted. You know, Doctor Bethany, please book me a 676 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 7: session when we're done here so I can come to 677 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 7: you for a cleansing of triple D because I feel sick. 678 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 7: And you know why I feel sick, everybody, because I 679 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 7: keep thinking about all of the victims of Dirty Ditty, 680 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 7: what they must be thinking while they're seeing all this. 681 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 7: And on top of it, let me tell you, I 682 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,720 Speaker 7: had to throw out my Way shampoo and conditioner today 683 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 7: because I saw it was on his list and I 684 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 7: want nothing to do with him. And I wasted a 685 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 7: lot of money doing that. But when all is said 686 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 7: and done, let us I'm going to go back like 687 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:41,840 Speaker 7: a broken record. 688 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:42,359 Speaker 12: We've got to. 689 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 7: Remain focused on victims and survivors and listening to them 690 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 7: and empowering them at the same time. Because this, I 691 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 7: can't look at him anymore. 692 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,720 Speaker 2: Doctor Marshall, what about you, guys, you're saying Diddy's official 693 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 2: Instagram pages, Bethany. 694 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,799 Speaker 4: Nancy, He's just getting himself ready for sex, that's what 695 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 4: he's doing. And a sex addict like him to have 696 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 4: greater and greater stimulation to achieve sexual arousals. 697 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 3: So what is he going to do. 698 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,440 Speaker 4: He's going to have women, I don't know, massaging him 699 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 4: all the time, the baby oil, everything that we heard 700 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,840 Speaker 4: from the punisher, it's like p Diddy was, he was 701 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 4: like pushing the envelope. So if this is the testimony 702 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,799 Speaker 4: we've heard in court thus far, I am a little 703 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 4: frightened to hear what else might have been going on 704 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,319 Speaker 4: behind the scenes because all of that moving bodies, and you're. 705 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 2: Right, you're right, doctor Bethany Sidney Sumner with me Crime 706 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:35,360 Speaker 2: Stories Investigative Reporter Sidney. It's, you know, almost laughable to 707 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 2: watch him getting his facial and his pedicure and all 708 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 2: of that getting manscaped. 709 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,720 Speaker 1: But we're talking about sex trafficking. 710 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 2: And we had Capricorn Clark on the stand throughout the 711 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:51,800 Speaker 2: day to day describing losing her hair, crying, being beaten, 712 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 2: being held hostage and more. 713 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 1: That's what we don't want to forget. 714 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 12: No, and it's hard to Nancy that simony was scary. 715 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:06,319 Speaker 12: I mean, I cannot imagine starting a job and on 716 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 12: my first day being taken to the secluded park, sat 717 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 12: down by my boss and saying, you know, you didn't 718 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 12: tell her you used to work for Suge Night, So 719 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 12: if that becomes a problem, we're gonna have to kill you. 720 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 12: I mean, can you imagine within hours of being hired 721 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,319 Speaker 12: to start this job, you receive a death threat? And 722 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 12: this continued for most of her employment. She suffered physical 723 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 12: arm from Colmes when he shoved her out of his 724 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 12: house for making an off handed comment about I hate 725 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,840 Speaker 12: it here. Colms had yelled at her for leaving the 726 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 12: property after telling her to leave the property, and she 727 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 12: was upset, so she made an off handed comment to 728 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 12: another employee who turned around and told Colmbs what she said, 729 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 12: and he shoved her out of his house physically. Not 730 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 12: to mention that he held her hostage for five days 731 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 12: wait until she passed a polygraph that she had not 732 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 12: stolen jewelry from him. And that's not the first time 733 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,319 Speaker 12: he had held her hostage. That's three separate occasions that 734 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 12: we've heard about just on the stand today. 735 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 1: You know, Sydney summer. 736 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,279 Speaker 2: You and Lauren Collin are getting totally stressed out by 737 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 2: reporting on all the abuse that's been heaped on others 738 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 2: by Shawn Comes allegedly. I think you need to go 739 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:27,880 Speaker 2: book yourself a state at the Ermitage or the Inner Continental. 740 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 2: But you're going to need one of these. I'm pretty 741 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,840 Speaker 2: sure in case you get around that Diddy's been in. 742 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 2: We wait as justice Unfole's and as Evans poors from 743 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 2: the witness stand, and we remember an American hero police officer, 744 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 2: David Lee, Saint Louis Metropolitan Police hit and killed in 745 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 2: the line of duty. Served eighteen years and Lee's behind 746 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 2: a wife termed widow Tanya, their twenty three year old 747 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,240 Speaker 2: son and an eighteen year old daughter. 748 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 1: American hero police 749 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 2: Officer David Lee, Nancy Grace signing off he's a boyfriend,