WEBVTT - Two Ts Presents: Two Jersey Js: Going Golden 0:00:02.200 --> 0:00:06.000 Hi you guys, Welcome back to to Jersey Jays. There 0:00:06.040 --> 0:00:09.440 actually aren't two of us today. It's just me and 0:00:09.920 --> 0:00:14.440 Jackie is whooping it up in Italy Rome where she 0:00:14.520 --> 0:00:18.200 now Naples POMPEII. So I can't feel too badly about 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:21.520 the fact that she's not here today because we have really, 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:27.160 really good guests. And I will tell you that I 0:00:27.200 --> 0:00:33.640 am so excited. I started watching The Golden Bachelor when 0:00:33.680 --> 0:00:36.400 I knew that we were having these ladies on. So 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:40.520 full disclosure, I did not watch it in real time, 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:44.559 and I am so psyched that I watched it. Anybody 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:48.440 who hasn't, I beg of you. I was getting bored 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:51.599 of The Bachelor. The Golden Bachelor is so great, and 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:55.880 so much of it was because of these two women, 0:00:57.000 --> 0:00:59.840 and not only their relationships with the Golden Bachelor, but 0:00:59.880 --> 0:01:04.399 the relationships that they formed with each other. So having 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:08.959 said that, I would like to introduce you to Susan 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:14.559 Knowles and Kathy Swartz. Hi you guys. I cannot even 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:16.520 tell you how thrilled I am to have you on. 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:18.880 Thank you. We're thrilled to be here. 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:24.200 Thank you, Thank you. So full disclosure. I was told 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:28.000 that I was having I thought I was having Gary 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:31.640 and Teresa on at the beginning when they first told 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:33.520 me I was going to get and honestly, I have 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:37.040 to be honest with you, I was like, and then 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:40.640 they were like, no, you're wrong, and I was like, yeah, baby, 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:43.840 only because I felt like I both of you. Honestly, 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:46.560 if there were two women that I felt like I 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:51.280 related to and could be friends with, it was absolutely 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:53.480 the two of you. It really really was. 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:54.840 And talk a lot. 0:01:55.680 --> 0:02:00.200 Yeah, I do, I am exactly, and I just there 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:04.400 was something about the way that you all held yourself, 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:07.760 the way maybe the two of you connected, that I 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:11.720 just enjoyed. You were so funny and just so fabulous, 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:12.320 were so real. 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:13.200 I think that's what. 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:17.520 Yes, that's exactly right. There is so much that I 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:22.680 want to talk to you about. I honestly, I didn't 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:26.440 watch The Bachelor. I didn't watch The Golden Bachelor in 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:31.440 real time. I watched it now, of course I have, 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:36.600 so of course I have, And I think I didn't 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:39.480 watch it in real time because I was getting a 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:44.160 little tired of the Bachelor. Of course, when I heard 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:49.320 about the Golden Bachelor, I was like, finally, right, Yeah, 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:52.959 I was really actually kind of frustrated by the fact 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:58.040 that the Golden Bachelor took so long to come to us. 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:03.440 And I have a single sister and she's now she's 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:08.040 fifty three, but she was like, you know, so annoyed. 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:09.720 She want She's like, I want to be on it. 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:12.480 You know, it would have been I don't know, the 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:15.040 Platinum Bachelor. I don't know what the age range was. 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:18.720 That age was supposed to originally be sixty five and 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:22.840 up and they and they couldn't find enough I guess, 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:25.720 act of whatever reason, so they lowered it to sixty. 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:28.120 So I didn't know that going in. 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:30.560 I thought everybody was sixty five and up and I 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:33.280 was sixty six going on the show. And the first 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:36.640 time we actually saw each other, I was looking around 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:38.800 the hotel getting ready to get in a limbo, and I. 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:40.520 Thought, okay, I feel good. I feel good. 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:42.840 And then I left this way, I go, oh, yeah, 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:44.480 I find out she's sixty. 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:47.880 So what I say, the very great sixty? I thought, 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:50.920 I'm seventy, and I thought, oh, I can run the bulls. 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:54.280 I can handle this, right. I saw sixty here, I went, Okay, 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:56.320 I can still run with them. But you know, I'm 0:03:56.320 --> 0:03:57.640 ten years older than they are. 0:03:57.560 --> 0:04:00.680 So okay, well, let's get real. Okay, you could run 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:03.160 with every single one of those women, and in my 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:07.840 humble opinion, you can outrun them. I was just I. 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:10.400 Will say I did win the pick a ball contest 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:11.440 and I, oh. 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:16.640 My god, unbelievable, unbelievable. So you guys, I felt like 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:20.839 watching this, the real love story was the female friendships. 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:24.839 That to me was the best part. And I will 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:27.760 tell you that the difference between The Bachelor and the 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:31.760 Golden Bachelor was for me, the idea that you guys 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:35.440 connected so differently. You know, these young women. I'm sure 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:38.679 you all felt competitive. I know that you did. Having 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:41.440 said that, there was a whole you did it. There 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:44.200 you go, there's a whole other aspect. You're falling in 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:44.960 love with each other. 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:50.200 Well, here's the thing. We've said this. We met each 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:54.080 other when we got to the mansion, and soon after, 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:57.480 when we met Gary, many of us knew within you know, 0:04:57.520 --> 0:05:00.359 three or four days, that he was really going to 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:02.880 be our guy. Nice guy, but not for us. So 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:06.880 you know, I can't speak for Susan, but the friendships 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:10.880 became very important. Having fun became important, and I think 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:13.240 that's what people related to us. 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:17.120 Being Yeah, the whole thing was we were not having 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:20.120 any contact with the outside world. The only thing we 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:22.640 could do is get to know one another in the mansion, 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:23.440 right right. 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:27.760 One of the differences is we are of a certain 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:30.960 age and we have been married. I lost my husband 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:35.440 by to suicide, Susan's divorce. We all have children and grandchildren, 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:39.479 so our rich lives. There's a lot of stories and 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:42.960 a lot of heartache and happiness, and so I think 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:44.120 people can relate to that. 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:49.800 Guys, I related to that. I feel like there was 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:53.280 just so much more to talk about. That was so 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:56.760 for at least for me, so much more interesting. You're 0:05:56.800 --> 0:06:00.800 bringing into this, you know, your joys, your heartache, the 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:04.760 life that you lived again. I I can sort. 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:08.480 Of say we did not cry or get upset because 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:10.800 we didn't have a one on one, Like, there's bigger 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:12.160 things in life to talk about. 0:06:12.279 --> 0:06:14.200 Amen, sisters. 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:18.760 That did get a one on one. We were genuinely happy. 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:21.000 I was jealous I didn't get the diamond eariuons if 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:24.080 we're being honest, elans romantic. 0:06:23.640 --> 0:06:25.680 Fair and that would have been the thing that got 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:27.560 me fair, very fair. 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:32.279 And it makes people laugh and Gary, I mean I 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:35.840 was sympathetic. Like every Rose ceremony, he cried a lot. 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:38.960 So he's going around the room and I'd go, it's okay, babe, 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:40.760 I got you. Or I'd be like this and he'd 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:42.600 start laughing, and he would always come up to me 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:44.920 later and say, thank you so much. 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:46.599 That means the world to me. 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:51.480 Yeah, you actually do a good that's pretty good impression. Honestly, 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:55.040 I have to be also, I keep prefacing what I'm 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:57.120 saying with I have to be honest because I don't always. 0:06:57.400 --> 0:06:59.520 I try to be real and I'm hoping that it 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:03.480 comes off as kind. This may not, but it will. 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:07.400 Let you guys, he is a gorgeous, gorgeous sweet man, 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:12.040 but he is a goofy mother like I'm sorry. 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:16.720 He had no game. So let me just say we 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:18.880 we shared a room. There were four of us in 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:22.880 our room. After the first after start down to four 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:26.200 and we literally looked at each other that after I 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:28.480 said two or three days and we said, okay, what 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:30.400 do y'all think? And we kind of all away to 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:31.800 your laugh and start laughing. 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:35.680 Growth he has no game, no way we would run 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:37.000 circles around them. 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:38.960 We love him dearly, don't get us wrong. 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:42.800 Yeah, he listened, I felt the same way. I was like, 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:45.000 this is the sweetest man. 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:47.760 And I don't want to wander around cornfields. That is 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:49.200 not how I'm going to spend this last. 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:52.680 Chapter a month exactly. So you guys, you did know 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:55.560 that because it did seem like you were into him. 0:07:55.760 --> 0:08:00.000 Well it seemed like everyone was into him. But you know, yeah, 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:02.560 I mean again, gorgeous man. 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:07.160 Really truly his eyes and his smile. 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:09.840 To die for the first one. 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:12.960 On what first meeting that we had a few minutes together, 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:15.800 he really paid attention to what you were saying. 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:16.840 He was very genuine. 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:20.720 He was trying his hard as to learn one. And 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:22.840 I looked up and said, well, maybe I could give 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:25.080 this guy a shot. Let me see, you know. So 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:26.560 it was a process. 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:31.880 Okay, So for me right off the bat it was Teresa, 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:34.400 Teresa Teresa. People would say, what did you talk about, 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:37.600 and I'd rolled my eyes and say, I mean that 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:40.840 I left that show. He knew no more about me 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:45.400 when I got there than when I left. Everyone deserves 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:50.880 love everyone everyone, And I will tell you honestly, I 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:55.880 am envious of that Jeey just ended. I am envious 0:08:56.000 --> 0:09:00.839 of the process when it works, and and you find 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:03.400 that love. Susan and I we make jokes about it, 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:07.400 but we both are looking for love. And if anyone's listening, 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:08.880 I'll move back to New England. 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:14.600 Yeah, I have a list for you, guys, so we'll 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:18.679 talk about that off air. But I honestly, I just 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:20.800 I don't really feel bad for either one of you. 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:23.320 Why don't you like, get on one of these dumb 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:27.479 ass online dating really. 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:30.960 Dating apps? You know what I get? I get thirty 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:33.480 five and forty year olds and I write back and 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:35.760 tell them I have children older than you. Move on. 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:39.280 But look at that, getting thirty five and forty year olds. 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:43.960 I mean, you're both gorgeous and you're charismatic everything. And listen, 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:48.400 there've got to be divorced guys, guys, widows looking for you. 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:49.800 They're looking for fifty year old. 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:54.760 Kathy doesn't believe anybody would look at her because of 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:55.600 the number. 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:57.040 I don't believe. 0:09:57.480 --> 0:09:59.680 I don't either. I don't agree. 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:02.360 I didn't say I don't believe. I said. It hasn't 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:03.120 happened yet. 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:06.280 It hasn't happened yet. This was interesting to me because 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:08.720 there was a lot of talk of sex on the show. 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:11.839 Now I am again I'm fifty five years old. I'm 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:14.280 a little younger than you, guys, but it is not 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:16.680 that freaking important to me. I mean maybe it is 0:10:16.720 --> 0:10:19.200 to you guys. What is enough already? 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:21.960 Because we've learned how to take care of ourselves, so 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:22.800 it is exactly. 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:27.600 I'm married again twenty five years. I'm taking care of myself, right. 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:29.560 I mean, wait a minute, wait a minute. 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:32.559 I got something special for Kathy's birthday next month. 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:34.319 Just say, does it buzz? 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:36.480 Yeah? Yeah? 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:38.240 I mean nice. 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:41.760 I'll take the cake with the icing, please, thank you, exactly, 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:45.560 get me one of those. Here's what I say, Fina, honest, 0:10:45.880 --> 0:10:48.559 as we get older, for me, I can't speak for 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:51.240 the world that i'd like to. She does, though, it 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:55.880 is exactly different as you get older, absolutely, and I 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:57.680 want to find the guy that I want to wake 0:10:57.760 --> 0:10:59.640 up next to unless he snorts and then he's out 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:01.679 of there. We can have our own rus at this point, 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:04.800 you know, yes, But I'm just saying I want the 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:09.080 guy those things Matt passionate, sex, great, I'd love it, 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:12.400 But I want to find the guy who wants to 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:15.360 travel and have fun and cook with me, really cook 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:17.200 for me. No, Kathy does not cook. 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:21.280 I said that I don't either. I don't either. Well 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:23.040 you'll need to now you're Susan. 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:25.480 And you batted for the other team. I don't either, 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:27.480 but if we did, we'd be a matchman. 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:31.400 Oh my god, one hundred percent seriously, because what I 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:34.280 want now? And again, I mean, we have a nice 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:37.920 sex life, but it's not it's certainly not the priority. 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:39.480 It does not what holds us together. 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:42.400 You know what I missed the most makeout session, Like 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:43.840 there's nothing better than. 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:46.760 Oh god, really, i've gotten older. I don't wan anyone's 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:47.480 tied in my mouth? 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:51.040 You now still need Okay, you go do that. I'm good. 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:52.040 I want to watch. 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:54.520 I mean, I'm sure you are. I have no doubt 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:57.240 about that with either one of you. You're probably wonderful kissers. 0:11:57.280 --> 0:12:00.040 But I don't know it's yes, I mean. 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:02.280 That because you're married. Is that why? 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:06.360 I don't know? I mean, I'm just over it. You know, 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:09.559 I've kissed enough. It's like I love kissing my husband, 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:11.800 but I don't need to open my mouth. Let's not 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:12.520 get crazy. 0:12:13.400 --> 0:12:18.240 Well, you know that freedom and if he wants, you 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:20.880 know what you tell him, honey, I would, but COVID 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:21.560 is still a thing. 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:27.080 He doesn't want me to. He doesn't want my tongue 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:30.720 in his mouth either anymore. We're over it. But like 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:33.280 you know, I heard you guys listen to mel Robbins. 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:36.520 Ever have you heard of her? She's like the sage. 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:39.480 She's all over Instagram and she's one of the sort 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:41.400 of like a life coach. But anyway, she said something 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:44.199 on Valentine's Today. She said, you know, I don't want 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:47.280 to be madly in love anymore. I want to be 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:50.560 peacefully in love. I don't need to be you know, 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:53.480 I used to crave the spark. My husband and I 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:55.680 were separated for about a year and a half, and 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:57.560 I won't bore you with the details of that, but 0:12:57.600 --> 0:12:59.320 I think I at the time I was looking for 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:03.240 a spark. Now it sparks me. Is this peaceful, kind, 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:06.920 fabulous man who treats me. 0:13:07.000 --> 0:13:12.080 Well, that's what I want to find, the guy who 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:16.319 really wants to be with me and enjoy a walk 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:18.880 on the beach and holding hands and sitting you know, 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:24.960 sunsets have fun and travel and it's not about that. 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:28.000 I think you fall in love, you fall in lust, 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:31.160 But I'll be the long term love guilty. 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:33.840 Many times, you're still there. Yeah, and I. 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:35.920 Used to think that was love. I really did. 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:37.679 Now, yeah, so did. 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:39.880 I took me a long time to figure it out. 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:44.959 It was twenty so you know my experience is very different. 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:48.959 Yes, of course. And I want for my daughter. My 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:53.200 daughter is twenty one, and I'm constantly saying to her, 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:55.440 you know, she's always in love, she's in love with 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:58.719 the new guy every month, but I want her when 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:01.480 she makes her final choice. So important to not only 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:07.760 feel it in your heart, but you're conscious of it. Yes, right. 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:09.800 Every day. 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:13.600 About the red flags, don't think they're yellow. They're red 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:15.920 for a reason and nothing. 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:18.880 Susan always says, Oh, but they're all yellow flags and 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:21.680 are like, no, Susan, A red flag is a red fight. 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:23.600 You're not going to make it a white flag. And 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:27.520 here's my advice I got I all often give. When 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:30.280 a man shows you who he is the first. 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:35.480 Time, believe him. Amen. But now we're old enough right 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:38.720 to understand that. Right, we don't have to make the 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:39.880 same stupid. 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:43.120 We will not settle. We've talked about this. 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:46.080 I'm not I mean, nobody's going to be perfect at 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:49.760 this age, look wise or you know certain this or that, 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:53.760 But we know what we need right and what we're 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:55.920 looking for, what's going to make us happy and what 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:56.680 we have the all. 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:59.440 And it's very different from when I was young, when 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:02.840 we rea, you know, some that would make a good father, 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:07.320 you know, build a life with, buy homes with, and 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:13.400 raise kids with. Now that's just not it. It's about last. 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:18.160 Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I would want to And 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:22.280 you know the Bachelor watching these young women and it 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:24.800 is so much about the lust and about looking for 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:28.680 the good father and so boring. I'm so bored with it. 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:31.000 That's why I stop watching it, you know. 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:34.360 And Joey season that was spectacular. 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:37.080 I don't even I don't think I watched Joey's season. 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:40.920 Jennifer. If you don't watch any event watching the last, 0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:44.160 watch the final rows because it will spoil it for you. 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:48.320 The two women who are left at the end, they 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:51.560 come together for the last roast ceremony and when the 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:54.880 one leaves self eliminates, she takes her to the car. 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:56.280 It's women in fact. 0:15:56.960 --> 0:15:58.480 Oh oh my god, I'm writing it down. This is 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:01.560 Joey season. Yeah, just all right, okay. 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:06.840 That's ending. Ever, It's okay. It's been there for women 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:07.800 and that's. 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:08.240 Right, I love. 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:10.280 That was priceless. 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:15.120 Okay, you know it's interesting for me. I I'd done 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:18.280 two seasons of the Real Housewives, so but I was 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:21.560 fifty three years old when some two years ago whatever, 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:26.160 I'm fifty five now when I started filming for them, 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:28.840 and I was a fan. You know, I've watched The 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:31.640 Housewives for years and years and years, and you guys 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:35.040 obviously watched The Bachelor. I mean that must have been 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:41.040 so surreal to be going into that experience, and you know, 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:45.479 I for me, I would picture myself as a housewife. 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:49.320 Did you picture yourselves? You know, even watching these young people, 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:50.680 did you picture yourselves doing it? 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:56.040 I was like the mansion. Oh, I remember the first 0:16:56.160 --> 0:17:00.200 roast ceremony and there saying this is surreal. I am 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:02.880 standing with so many have come before me, and a 0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:06.800 lot younger. But it was fun to stand up. Now. 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:10.640 I remember that grows ceremonies, still standing on those heels 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:13.879 and it was seven point thirty in the morning, and 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:17.640 I'm like, they need chairs. I want to take my shoes. 0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:19.040 All love takes Kyle. 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:22.399 It takes Kyle, honestly, I thought though, and those are 0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:23.960 the comments. I want to take my shoes with that 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:26.320 one woman at the first in the first ceremony that 0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:29.680 was sleeping. I thought I would die. Oh my god, 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:40.960 the best, the best, the best. I want to share 0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:43.200 something with you, guys. There was a lot of talk 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:47.600 of hope and of inspiration. So I'm probably the only 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:50.359 person that felt this way because I'm a cynic. But 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:52.959 it annoyed me a little. And I'm going to tell 0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:53.320 you why. 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:55.160 What I love. 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:57.600 I'm going to tell you I I it did, and 0:17:57.640 --> 0:18:00.919 I'll tell you why because it was pat to me. 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:03.720 It was like a little bit like, oh now, all 0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:06.879 of a sudden, I can have hope. And for me, 0:18:07.000 --> 0:18:12.159 it was like sort of assumption that women of a 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:14.560 certain age shouldn't have hope. 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:18.680 And it is exactly It is exactly the opposite people 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:22.840 tell me. In my opinion, it's exactly the opposite. You're 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:26.919 not quite old enough yet. As people get older, we 0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:29.840 feel and women out there that have written into us, 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:33.520 that stop us in airports say things like this, I'd 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:36.959 given up hope. I thought my life was over. So 0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:41.520 I get the cynicism, but I really do believe that 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:47.480 this show has brought people, women, men hope because they 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:49.440 don't feel like their life is over and I think 0:18:49.480 --> 0:18:50.359 that's a great message. 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:52.199 I think one of the things are they give up 0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:55.520 on themselves. They don't feel special anymore, they don't feel important. 0:18:55.520 --> 0:18:56.760 They're done raising kids. 0:18:56.800 --> 0:18:59.159 They're MEM's or my moms or whatever you want to 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:01.120 They don't take care of them, and they don't they 0:19:01.240 --> 0:19:06.560 stop doing for themselves. That message is, yes, you're still important, right, 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:09.000 you still you got to make yourself. 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:11.920 Happy, right, and you are value, You have something to say, 0:19:12.040 --> 0:19:15.280 you have a life to live. We're all in. We 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:17.920 keep saying the last chapter, it's going to be the 0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:20.440 best last chapter, but we have to make it that way. 0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:22.520 No one's coming to the door to do a perfect point. 0:19:22.640 --> 0:19:24.439 It's what you make that's right. 0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:26.320 Right, you know what it is. I have a lot 0:19:26.320 --> 0:19:30.240 of friends that are around my age and younger, and 0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:32.600 I see them after divorce. 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:36.600 Say it again, any single men out there. 0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:38.719 I'm going yes, but I'm talking about my female friends, 0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:40.919 and I'm talking about the fact that after you know, 0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:44.640 they're not in their seventies necessarily, they're in their sixties, 0:19:44.680 --> 0:19:47.400 they're in their fifties, and they've also given up hope. 0:19:47.440 --> 0:19:49.480 So for me, it was like, I don't know, it 0:19:49.600 --> 0:19:52.960 just felt to me like the message was come back 0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:55.920 to life. And I hope that women of your age, 0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:59.280 like you had a life before you had a romance 0:19:59.400 --> 0:20:01.879 with Gary, you know what I mean, and probably more 0:20:01.920 --> 0:20:04.160 of one, I hope than maybe some of my friends 0:20:04.160 --> 0:20:06.040 who have also given up. I don't know. I just 0:20:06.040 --> 0:20:08.639 think there's that we get labeled as we get older, 0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:16.240 we'll get them going okay, okay, honestly me too. You guys, 0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:18.280 you don't understand. I'm starstruck. 0:20:18.800 --> 0:20:19.560 I want tequila. 0:20:20.480 --> 0:20:23.760 I am, yes, tequila, please, Absolutely, I'm starstruck by the 0:20:23.800 --> 0:20:26.840 both of you. I am. But you know, part of 0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:31.800 that for me is that there's this agism and I 0:20:31.800 --> 0:20:34.679 think that I keep saying it, but it was getting 0:20:34.720 --> 0:20:36.640 to me with The Bachelor, but it's everywhere. It's not 0:20:36.680 --> 0:20:41.000 just the Bachelor, right, So even on my show on 0:20:41.040 --> 0:20:45.679 the Housewives, they keep getting they kind of refresh the 0:20:45.720 --> 0:20:50.320 franchises with younger women. And that's okay, listen, they know 0:20:50.400 --> 0:20:54.159 their audience certainly better than I do. But I feel 0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:57.160 like it's women of a certain age are just more 0:20:57.200 --> 0:20:59.520 interesting and. 0:21:00.160 --> 0:21:03.760 Ask you just real quickly, when when you talk to 0:21:03.800 --> 0:21:06.880 a twenty or thirty year old, the first thing out 0:21:06.920 --> 0:21:09.280 of your mouth is not Wow, you look good for 0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:12.000