1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: Hi you guys, Welcome back to to Jersey Jays. There 2 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: actually aren't two of us today. It's just me and 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: Jackie is whooping it up in Italy Rome where she 4 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: now Naples POMPEII. So I can't feel too badly about 5 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: the fact that she's not here today because we have really, 6 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: really good guests. And I will tell you that I 7 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: am so excited. I started watching The Golden Bachelor when 8 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: I knew that we were having these ladies on. So 9 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 1: full disclosure, I did not watch it in real time, 10 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: and I am so psyched that I watched it. Anybody 11 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: who hasn't, I beg of you. I was getting bored 12 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,599 Speaker 1: of The Bachelor. The Golden Bachelor is so great, and 13 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: so much of it was because of these two women, 14 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: and not only their relationships with the Golden Bachelor, but 15 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: the relationships that they formed with each other. So having 16 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: said that, I would like to introduce you to Susan 17 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:14,559 Speaker 1: Knowles and Kathy Swartz. Hi you guys. I cannot even 18 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: tell you how thrilled I am to have you on. 19 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 2: Thank you. We're thrilled to be here. 20 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you. So full disclosure. I was told 21 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: that I was having I thought I was having Gary 22 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: and Teresa on at the beginning when they first told 23 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: me I was going to get and honestly, I have 24 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, I was like, and then 25 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: they were like, no, you're wrong, and I was like, yeah, baby, 26 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: only because I felt like I both of you. Honestly, 27 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: if there were two women that I felt like I 28 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: related to and could be friends with, it was absolutely 29 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: the two of you. It really really was. 30 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 2: And talk a lot. 31 00:01:55,680 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do, I am exactly, and I just there 32 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: was something about the way that you all held yourself, 33 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: the way maybe the two of you connected, that I 34 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: just enjoyed. You were so funny and just so fabulous, 35 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: were so real. 36 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 2: I think that's what. 37 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: Yes, that's exactly right. There is so much that I 38 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: want to talk to you about. I honestly, I didn't 39 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: watch The Bachelor. I didn't watch The Golden Bachelor in 40 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: real time. I watched it now, of course I have, 41 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: so of course I have, And I think I didn't 42 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: watch it in real time because I was getting a 43 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: little tired of the Bachelor. Of course, when I heard 44 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: about the Golden Bachelor, I was like, finally, right, Yeah, 45 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,959 Speaker 1: I was really actually kind of frustrated by the fact 46 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: that the Golden Bachelor took so long to come to us. 47 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: And I have a single sister and she's now she's 48 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: fifty three, but she was like, you know, so annoyed. 49 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: She want She's like, I want to be on it. 50 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: You know, it would have been I don't know, the 51 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: Platinum Bachelor. I don't know what the age range was. 52 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 2: That age was supposed to originally be sixty five and 53 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 2: up and they and they couldn't find enough I guess, 54 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: act of whatever reason, so they lowered it to sixty. 55 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 2: So I didn't know that going in. 56 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 3: I thought everybody was sixty five and up and I 57 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 3: was sixty six going on the show. And the first 58 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 3: time we actually saw each other, I was looking around 59 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 3: the hotel getting ready to get in a limbo, and I. 60 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: Thought, okay, I feel good. I feel good. 61 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 3: And then I left this way, I go, oh, yeah, 62 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 3: I find out she's sixty. 63 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: So what I say, the very great sixty? I thought, 64 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 2: I'm seventy, and I thought, oh, I can run the bulls. 65 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 2: I can handle this, right. I saw sixty here, I went, Okay, 66 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 2: I can still run with them. But you know, I'm 67 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 2: ten years older than they are. 68 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: So okay, well, let's get real. Okay, you could run 69 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: with every single one of those women, and in my 70 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: humble opinion, you can outrun them. I was just I. 71 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 2: Will say I did win the pick a ball contest 72 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 2: and I, oh. 73 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: My god, unbelievable, unbelievable. So you guys, I felt like 74 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: watching this, the real love story was the female friendships. 75 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: That to me was the best part. And I will 76 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: tell you that the difference between The Bachelor and the 77 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: Golden Bachelor was for me, the idea that you guys 78 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: connected so differently. You know, these young women. I'm sure 79 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,679 Speaker 1: you all felt competitive. I know that you did. Having 80 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: said that, there was a whole you did it. There 81 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: you go, there's a whole other aspect. You're falling in 82 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: love with each other. 83 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. We've said this. We met each 84 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 2: other when we got to the mansion, and soon after, 85 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 2: when we met Gary, many of us knew within you know, 86 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 2: three or four days, that he was really going to 87 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 2: be our guy. Nice guy, but not for us. So 88 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 2: you know, I can't speak for Susan, but the friendships 89 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 2: became very important. Having fun became important, and I think 90 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 2: that's what people related to us. 91 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 3: Being Yeah, the whole thing was we were not having 92 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 3: any contact with the outside world. The only thing we 93 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 3: could do is get to know one another in the mansion, 94 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 3: right right. 95 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 2: One of the differences is we are of a certain 96 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 2: age and we have been married. I lost my husband 97 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 2: by to suicide, Susan's divorce. We all have children and grandchildren, 98 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 2: so our rich lives. There's a lot of stories and 99 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: a lot of heartache and happiness, and so I think 100 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 2: people can relate to that. 101 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: Guys, I related to that. I feel like there was 102 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 1: just so much more to talk about. That was so 103 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: for at least for me, so much more interesting. You're 104 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: bringing into this, you know, your joys, your heartache, the 105 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: life that you lived again. I I can sort. 106 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 2: Of say we did not cry or get upset because 107 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 2: we didn't have a one on one, Like, there's bigger 108 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 2: things in life to talk about. 109 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: Amen, sisters. 110 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 3: That did get a one on one. We were genuinely happy. 111 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 2: I was jealous I didn't get the diamond eariuons if 112 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 2: we're being honest, elans romantic. 113 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: Fair and that would have been the thing that got 114 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: me fair, very fair. 115 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 3: And it makes people laugh and Gary, I mean I 116 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 3: was sympathetic. Like every Rose ceremony, he cried a lot. 117 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 3: So he's going around the room and I'd go, it's okay, babe, 118 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 3: I got you. Or I'd be like this and he'd 119 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 3: start laughing, and he would always come up to me 120 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 3: later and say, thank you so much. 121 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 2: That means the world to me. 122 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, you actually do a good that's pretty good impression. Honestly, 123 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: I have to be also, I keep prefacing what I'm 124 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: saying with I have to be honest because I don't always. 125 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: I try to be real and I'm hoping that it 126 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: comes off as kind. This may not, but it will. 127 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: Let you guys, he is a gorgeous, gorgeous sweet man, 128 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: but he is a goofy mother like I'm sorry. 129 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 2: He had no game. So let me just say we 130 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 2: we shared a room. There were four of us in 131 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 2: our room. After the first after start down to four 132 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 2: and we literally looked at each other that after I 133 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 2: said two or three days and we said, okay, what 134 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 2: do y'all think? And we kind of all away to 135 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 2: your laugh and start laughing. 136 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 3: Growth he has no game, no way we would run 137 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 3: circles around them. 138 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 2: We love him dearly, don't get us wrong. 139 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, he listened, I felt the same way. I was like, 140 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: this is the sweetest man. 141 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 2: And I don't want to wander around cornfields. That is 142 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 2: not how I'm going to spend this last. 143 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: Chapter a month exactly. So you guys, you did know 144 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: that because it did seem like you were into him. 145 00:07:55,760 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: Well it seemed like everyone was into him. But you know, yeah, 146 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: I mean again, gorgeous man. 147 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 2: Really truly his eyes and his smile. 148 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: To die for the first one. 149 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 3: On what first meeting that we had a few minutes together, 150 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 3: he really paid attention to what you were saying. 151 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 2: He was very genuine. 152 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 3: He was trying his hard as to learn one. And 153 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 3: I looked up and said, well, maybe I could give 154 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 3: this guy a shot. Let me see, you know. So 155 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 3: it was a process. 156 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 2: Okay, So for me right off the bat it was Teresa, 157 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 2: Teresa Teresa. People would say, what did you talk about, 158 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 2: and I'd rolled my eyes and say, I mean that 159 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 2: I left that show. He knew no more about me 160 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 2: when I got there than when I left. Everyone deserves 161 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 2: love everyone everyone, And I will tell you honestly, I 162 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 2: am envious of that Jeey just ended. I am envious 163 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 2: of the process when it works, and and you find 164 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 2: that love. Susan and I we make jokes about it, 165 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 2: but we both are looking for love. And if anyone's listening, 166 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 2: I'll move back to New England. 167 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a list for you, guys, so we'll 168 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 1: talk about that off air. But I honestly, I just 169 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: I don't really feel bad for either one of you. 170 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: Why don't you like, get on one of these dumb 171 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:27,479 Speaker 1: ass online dating really. 172 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 2: Dating apps? You know what I get? I get thirty 173 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 2: five and forty year olds and I write back and 174 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 2: tell them I have children older than you. Move on. 175 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: But look at that, getting thirty five and forty year olds. 176 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you're both gorgeous and you're charismatic everything. And listen, 177 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: there've got to be divorced guys, guys, widows looking for you. 178 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 2: They're looking for fifty year old. 179 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 3: Kathy doesn't believe anybody would look at her because of 180 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 3: the number. 181 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 2: I don't believe. 182 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: I don't either. I don't agree. 183 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 2: I didn't say I don't believe. I said. It hasn't 184 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 2: happened yet. 185 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: It hasn't happened yet. This was interesting to me because 186 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: there was a lot of talk of sex on the show. 187 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 1: Now I am again I'm fifty five years old. I'm 188 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: a little younger than you, guys, but it is not 189 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 1: that freaking important to me. I mean maybe it is 190 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: to you guys. What is enough already? 191 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 3: Because we've learned how to take care of ourselves, so 192 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 3: it is exactly. 193 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: I'm married again twenty five years. I'm taking care of myself, right. 194 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 2: I mean, wait a minute, wait a minute. 195 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 3: I got something special for Kathy's birthday next month. 196 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 1: Just say, does it buzz? 197 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah? 198 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: I mean nice. 199 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 2: I'll take the cake with the icing, please, thank you, exactly, 200 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 2: get me one of those. Here's what I say, Fina, honest, 201 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 2: as we get older, for me, I can't speak for 202 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 2: the world that i'd like to. She does, though, it 203 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 2: is exactly different as you get older, absolutely, and I 204 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 2: want to find the guy that I want to wake 205 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 2: up next to unless he snorts and then he's out 206 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 2: of there. We can have our own rus at this point, 207 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 2: you know, yes, But I'm just saying I want the 208 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 2: guy those things Matt passionate, sex, great, I'd love it, 209 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 2: But I want to find the guy who wants to 210 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 2: travel and have fun and cook with me, really cook 211 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 2: for me. No, Kathy does not cook. 212 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: I said that I don't either. I don't either. Well 213 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: you'll need to now you're Susan. 214 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 2: And you batted for the other team. I don't either, 215 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 2: but if we did, we'd be a matchman. 216 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: Oh my god, one hundred percent seriously, because what I 217 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: want now? And again, I mean, we have a nice 218 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: sex life, but it's not it's certainly not the priority. 219 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: It does not what holds us together. 220 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 3: You know what I missed the most makeout session, Like 221 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 3: there's nothing better than. 222 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: Oh god, really, i've gotten older. I don't wan anyone's 223 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: tied in my mouth? 224 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 2: You now still need Okay, you go do that. I'm good. 225 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 2: I want to watch. 226 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure you are. I have no doubt 227 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: about that with either one of you. You're probably wonderful kissers. 228 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 1: But I don't know it's yes, I mean. 229 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 2: That because you're married. Is that why? 230 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: I don't know? I mean, I'm just over it. You know, 231 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 1: I've kissed enough. It's like I love kissing my husband, 232 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: but I don't need to open my mouth. Let's not 233 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: get crazy. 234 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 2: Well, you know that freedom and if he wants, you 235 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 2: know what you tell him, honey, I would, but COVID 236 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 2: is still a thing. 237 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: He doesn't want me to. He doesn't want my tongue 238 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: in his mouth either anymore. We're over it. But like 239 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: you know, I heard you guys listen to mel Robbins. 240 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: Ever have you heard of her? She's like the sage. 241 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: She's all over Instagram and she's one of the sort 242 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: of like a life coach. But anyway, she said something 243 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 1: on Valentine's Today. She said, you know, I don't want 244 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: to be madly in love anymore. I want to be 245 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 1: peacefully in love. I don't need to be you know, 246 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: I used to crave the spark. My husband and I 247 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: were separated for about a year and a half, and 248 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: I won't bore you with the details of that, but 249 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: I think I at the time I was looking for 250 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: a spark. Now it sparks me. Is this peaceful, kind, 251 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: fabulous man who treats me. 252 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 2: Well, that's what I want to find, the guy who 253 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 2: really wants to be with me and enjoy a walk 254 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 2: on the beach and holding hands and sitting you know, 255 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 2: sunsets have fun and travel and it's not about that. 256 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 2: I think you fall in love, you fall in lust, 257 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 2: But I'll be the long term love guilty. 258 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: Many times, you're still there. Yeah, and I. 259 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 2: Used to think that was love. I really did. 260 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 1: Now, yeah, so did. 261 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 2: I took me a long time to figure it out. 262 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 2: It was twenty so you know my experience is very different. 263 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 1: Yes, of course. And I want for my daughter. My 264 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: daughter is twenty one, and I'm constantly saying to her, 265 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: you know, she's always in love, she's in love with 266 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,719 Speaker 1: the new guy every month, but I want her when 267 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: she makes her final choice. So important to not only 268 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: feel it in your heart, but you're conscious of it. Yes, right. 269 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 2: Every day. 270 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 3: About the red flags, don't think they're yellow. They're red 271 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 3: for a reason and nothing. 272 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 2: Susan always says, Oh, but they're all yellow flags and 273 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 2: are like, no, Susan, A red flag is a red fight. 274 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 2: You're not going to make it a white flag. And 275 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 2: here's my advice I got I all often give. When 276 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 2: a man shows you who he is the first. 277 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: Time, believe him. Amen. But now we're old enough right 278 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: to understand that. Right, we don't have to make the 279 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: same stupid. 280 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 2: We will not settle. We've talked about this. 281 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 3: I'm not I mean, nobody's going to be perfect at 282 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 3: this age, look wise or you know certain this or that, 283 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 3: But we know what we need right and what we're 284 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 3: looking for, what's going to make us happy and what 285 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 3: we have the all. 286 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 2: And it's very different from when I was young, when 287 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 2: we rea, you know, some that would make a good father, 288 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 2: you know, build a life with, buy homes with, and 289 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 2: raise kids with. Now that's just not it. It's about last. 290 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I would want to And 291 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: you know the Bachelor watching these young women and it 292 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: is so much about the lust and about looking for 293 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: the good father and so boring. I'm so bored with it. 294 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: That's why I stop watching it, you know. 295 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 2: And Joey season that was spectacular. 296 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: I don't even I don't think I watched Joey's season. 297 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 2: Jennifer. If you don't watch any event watching the last, 298 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 2: watch the final rows because it will spoil it for you. 299 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 2: The two women who are left at the end, they 300 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 2: come together for the last roast ceremony and when the 301 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 2: one leaves self eliminates, she takes her to the car. 302 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 2: It's women in fact. 303 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: Oh oh my god, I'm writing it down. This is 304 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: Joey season. Yeah, just all right, okay. 305 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 2: That's ending. Ever, It's okay. It's been there for women 306 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 2: and that's. 307 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: Right, I love. 308 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 2: That was priceless. 309 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: Okay, you know it's interesting for me. I I'd done 310 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: two seasons of the Real Housewives, so but I was 311 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: fifty three years old when some two years ago whatever, 312 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: I'm fifty five now when I started filming for them, 313 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: and I was a fan. You know, I've watched The 314 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: Housewives for years and years and years, and you guys 315 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: obviously watched The Bachelor. I mean that must have been 316 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: so surreal to be going into that experience, and you know, 317 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:45,479 Speaker 1: I for me, I would picture myself as a housewife. 318 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: Did you picture yourselves? You know, even watching these young people, 319 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: did you picture yourselves doing it? 320 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 2: I was like the mansion. Oh, I remember the first 321 00:16:56,160 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 2: roast ceremony and there saying this is surreal. I am 322 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 2: standing with so many have come before me, and a 323 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 2: lot younger. But it was fun to stand up. Now. 324 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 3: I remember that grows ceremonies, still standing on those heels 325 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 3: and it was seven point thirty in the morning, and 326 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 3: I'm like, they need chairs. I want to take my shoes. 327 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 2: All love takes Kyle. 328 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 1: It takes Kyle, honestly, I thought though, and those are 329 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: the comments. I want to take my shoes with that 330 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: one woman at the first in the first ceremony that 331 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: was sleeping. I thought I would die. Oh my god, 332 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: the best, the best, the best. I want to share 333 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: something with you, guys. There was a lot of talk 334 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: of hope and of inspiration. So I'm probably the only 335 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: person that felt this way because I'm a cynic. But 336 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,959 Speaker 1: it annoyed me a little. And I'm going to tell 337 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: you why. 338 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 2: What I love. 339 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you I I it did, and 340 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,919 Speaker 1: I'll tell you why because it was pat to me. 341 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: It was like a little bit like, oh now, all 342 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: of a sudden, I can have hope. And for me, 343 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 1: it was like sort of assumption that women of a 344 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: certain age shouldn't have hope. 345 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 2: And it is exactly It is exactly the opposite people 346 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 2: tell me. In my opinion, it's exactly the opposite. You're 347 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 2: not quite old enough yet. As people get older, we 348 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 2: feel and women out there that have written into us, 349 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 2: that stop us in airports say things like this, I'd 350 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,959 Speaker 2: given up hope. I thought my life was over. So 351 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 2: I get the cynicism, but I really do believe that 352 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 2: this show has brought people, women, men hope because they 353 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 2: don't feel like their life is over and I think 354 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 2: that's a great message. 355 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 3: I think one of the things are they give up 356 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 3: on themselves. They don't feel special anymore, they don't feel important. 357 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 2: They're done raising kids. 358 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 3: They're MEM's or my moms or whatever you want to 359 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 3: They don't take care of them, and they don't they 360 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 3: stop doing for themselves. That message is, yes, you're still important, right, 361 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 3: you still you got to make yourself. 362 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 2: Happy, right, and you are value, You have something to say, 363 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 2: you have a life to live. We're all in. We 364 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 2: keep saying the last chapter, it's going to be the 365 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 2: best last chapter, but we have to make it that way. 366 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 2: No one's coming to the door to do a perfect point. 367 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 2: It's what you make that's right. 368 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: Right, you know what it is. I have a lot 369 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: of friends that are around my age and younger, and 370 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: I see them after divorce. 371 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 2: Say it again, any single men out there. 372 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,719 Speaker 1: I'm going yes, but I'm talking about my female friends, 373 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 1: and I'm talking about the fact that after you know, 374 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 1: they're not in their seventies necessarily, they're in their sixties, 375 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 1: they're in their fifties, and they've also given up hope. 376 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: So for me, it was like, I don't know, it 377 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: just felt to me like the message was come back 378 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: to life. And I hope that women of your age, 379 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: like you had a life before you had a romance 380 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: with Gary, you know what I mean, and probably more 381 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 1: of one, I hope than maybe some of my friends 382 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: who have also given up. I don't know. I just 383 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: think there's that we get labeled as we get older, 384 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: we'll get them going okay, okay, honestly me too. You guys, 385 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: you don't understand. I'm starstruck. 386 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 2: I want tequila. 387 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: I am, yes, tequila, please, Absolutely, I'm starstruck by the 388 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: both of you. I am. But you know, part of 389 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: that for me is that there's this agism and I 390 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 1: think that I keep saying it, but it was getting 391 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 1: to me with The Bachelor, but it's everywhere. It's not 392 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: just the Bachelor, right, So even on my show on 393 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 1: the Housewives, they keep getting they kind of refresh the 394 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: franchises with younger women. And that's okay, listen, they know 395 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 1: their audience certainly better than I do. But I feel 396 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 1: like it's women of a certain age are just more 397 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: interesting and. 398 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 2: Ask you just real quickly, when when you talk to 399 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 2: a twenty or thirty year old, the first thing out 400 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 2: of your mouth is not Wow, you look good for 401 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 2: your age. But with Susan and me, how many people 402 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 2: say to us, wow, you're seventy or sixty seven, you 403 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 2: look so great. Fear age. That is what we're trying 404 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 2: to get dismissed. That philosophy, that that theory, that you 405 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 2: stating yourself right, I mean, that's not even so. I 406 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 2: think that's that's it's a bigger issue, I think than 407 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 2: people are really willing to to admit. 408 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 3: I think we're more entertaining because we're raw, because of 409 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:36,360 Speaker 3: our species. 410 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 2: We say it like it is, and I think people 411 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 2: enjoy that. 412 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, Wow, you don't give a shit anymore. That's the 413 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: beauty of aging. You don't care, you're over it. What 414 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: people think? 415 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 2: Really, what did either you or I ever give a 416 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 2: shit with the thought? 417 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah when I was younger, almost definitely yes. 418 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 1: Okay, well guess what now you don't And I know 419 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: that because well I don't know this about well, I 420 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: know I believe you both, And again, that is for me, 421 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,239 Speaker 1: been the beauty of aging. The first thing is that 422 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 1: I stopped giving a ship. But let me say this, Kathy, 423 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: when you told Teresa to zip it, I was like, please, 424 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: thank you finally this she needs to zip it. I'm sorry. 425 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 1: I hope this never gets back to her because she's 426 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: a wonderful sweet woman. You'll never tell and I hope 427 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: she never listens. And if you do, Teresa, I'm sorry again. 428 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: Adorable sweet, but you needed to zip it. It was obnoxious, right, 429 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: she did need. 430 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 2: To zip it. But I'm from Boston, and you know 431 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 2: I grew up in a big family. When you save 432 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 2: zipper or I'm from it's it's like, come on, zip it, 433 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 2: move along, get it. 434 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 1: There are a lot worse things you could say. 435 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 2: In the Midwest, which I think is what Gary was 436 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 2: called that. I told her to zip it and I. 437 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: Was like, what no, But it was so obnoxious. It 438 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: was like she was it was. I was shocked. 439 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 2: I was like, we see you. Yeah. 440 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 1: I watched it, honey. The last scene in the what 441 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 1: is it called, the Fantasy Suite, the lipstick of it all? 442 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 1: I couldn't what was that? Why didn't the producer stop it? 443 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: I couldn't even watch. It was like all over him 444 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: and it was all over her. 445 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 3: Can we go back for one second and please full 446 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 3: honors for this? Teresa wore this bright red lipstick? 447 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I didn't miss that. 448 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 3: Did you notice it turned softer pink? You're welcome, Teresa? Really, 449 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 3: what the hell lose the lipstick? Tersa, It was so bad. 450 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 2: But that's I know that we did for each other, 451 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 2: you know, I did. 452 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 1: I love that. So let's get. 453 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 2: Susan said to her, sweetie, you need to change your 454 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 2: lipstick color, and not Teresa. 455 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, so, but I appreciate that. Listen if someone told 456 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: me to change my lipstick color, or you're being obnoxious 457 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: as opposed to when I was a young, insecure idiot, 458 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: but now I feel God, thank you, thank you, thank 459 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: you for telling me you had. 460 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 2: Heart today compared to the show. 461 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: Honestly, honestly, that is the thing. I agree. I agree, well, 462 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,479 Speaker 1: she has a hairdresser best friend. 463 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 2: But to be fair on the show, I mean we 464 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 2: were lucky to her hair washed and any makeup on you. 465 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: So fair. 466 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 2: But people do in that vein, people do stop us 467 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 2: all the time and say, wow, you're so pretty in 468 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 2: person in person, like what was like chopped liver on 469 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 2: the show. 470 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 1: Apparently, no, you were not. You were both gorgeous, but yeah, 471 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: like there was a difference, subtle difference and not with 472 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 1: all of the women when you came on the Women 473 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: Tell All, I was like, they look good that you 474 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: really did. 475 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 2: I mean I had more than five hours of sleep, yeah. 476 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 1: And you had more than five hours of sleep. And 477 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: by the way, Teresa too, she came on and for 478 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 1: the fun. I was like, nice hair, nice light lipstick. 479 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: I don't see it running off into your cheeks. Well done, 480 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: very sweet woman, Terresa. I'm sorry, very very sweet, lovely, 481 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 1: lovely pretty. 482 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 3: We do we love, yes, yeah, us, but we do 483 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 3: love every. 484 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: They love you. Believe me. I'm looking at you guys, 485 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: with your own podcast right and with your own celebrity, 486 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: and you are moving in ways that I don't know 487 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: that you ever imagined at this point in your life. 488 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: But to me, that's the best. And by the way, 489 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: who's ever listening Bachelor Happy Hour, Golden Hour? Tune in? 490 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: So that is the ladies new podcast. But to have 491 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: that kind of a turnaround, now, do you feel it up? 492 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 1: Do you feel like this is extraordinary? How my life 493 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: has changed? 494 00:25:55,960 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 3: Were like running with the bulls and ready, yes, love 495 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 3: every minute of it. 496 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 2: But I yes, I never If we're being honest, a 497 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 2: year ago, we didn't think I hadn't even applied for 498 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 2: the Bachelor. But I feel like this is Susan says 499 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 2: it all the time. You put out what you want 500 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 2: in the universe and it comes or a manifestation. It's 501 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 2: a manifestation of what you want. I am happier than 502 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 2: I've ever been in my life. People people ask me, 503 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 2: they said, what would your husband say? I was like, 504 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 2: I wouldn't have done this if my husband were. 505 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 1: This. 506 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 2: Would I have him back in a heartbeat if I could. Yes, 507 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 2: But this is the best life. It's done us today, 508 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 2: and it's about and where we go from here. We're 509 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 2: loving every minute of it and putting ourselves first, you know, 510 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 2: for once. 511 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys, you are the love story, not just 512 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 1: the two of you. I'm sure you made other close friends, but. 513 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 2: A couple not even well, I'm sorry. 514 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: To hear that. I mean, honestly, it would be wouldn't 515 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: that be just the best? That would have been another 516 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: type of love story. But it doesn't matter because you 517 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: found each other. And I think to myself, these two 518 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: can travel together, they can support each other. 519 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 2: But we went to Saint Martin with Nancy from the show. 520 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 2: We had really best vacation ever. We had a blast. 521 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean that's what I would want. We'd 522 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: got older, yes. 523 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 2: And day with some things right right now? 524 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 3: I you know, taught Kathy how to shop what she 525 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 3: used to hate to do. 526 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 2: She will, Malee, if you give me a choice, do 527 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 2: you want to go shopping or do you want to 528 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 2: go hike? Six miles? Oh god, six mile hike? No 529 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 2: question asked anything. Don't make me shop. 530 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: Get the hell out of here. You had no inter 531 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: as a hike. Well, Susan, did you now hike? Are you? 532 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: Did you come? 533 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 2: I can walk? Wait? Listen. She came to Austin. My 534 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 2: son got married two weeks ago, and. 535 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: Susan was thev you officiated it? 536 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 2: I did, and she didn't know what Mozeltov manter living 537 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 2: under you've been living in the Italian spaghetti one Muto. 538 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 2: I took her off for a walk and I videoed 539 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 2: it in my pajama bottoms. She was dying, but she 540 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 2: did it. That's the thing. I'm a big exercise girl, 541 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 2: and I'm going to get her to wait a minute, 542 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 2: but just step back. Now. I'm going to call you 543 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 2: on that I was dying. You were like you better 544 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 2: slow down, Susan. I can't believe O. You love me. 545 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 2: You're doing so good. I was not dying. I did wow, 546 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 2: how did you get? I just got to call you out, Achilles? 547 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 2: So I can't walk as fast, trust me, I'll leave 548 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 2: her in the dust. Well I'm not saying you couldn't, 549 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 2: but don't say I was struggling. I did it. 550 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: Listen you, guys, My mom is eighty one, soon to 551 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: be eighty two. I'm not even making it up to 552 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,719 Speaker 1: the woman runs five miles a day. I promise you 553 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: it's no. She used to swim one hundred and fifty 554 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: laps her whole life, and she literally, not just figuraly 555 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: could run circles around me. Because I don't want to 556 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: go hiking. I don't want to go running. I want 557 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: to sit on my fat ass. 558 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 2: That's it, gross, Mom. I don't know. I just I 559 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 2: can't keep up the strong like a bullet. 560 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: I love that. I mean, I know how important it 561 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: is right as we age, but I just. 562 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 2: All of that balance and strength. It's it's hard. You know, 563 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 2: anyone who's listening. It's never too late to get up 564 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 2: off the sofa and start working out. Do it? 565 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. I keep telling myself that I really 566 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 1: really do. So you guys, what, like, what are the 567 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: plans in terms of like, because I do see you 568 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: as like you've really hit the pinnacle. You have this 569 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: fabulous relationship, you on you're on the show, you have 570 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: a podcast. At this point, is it really important to 571 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: you or is that really your focus finding a guy? 572 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 2: I mean, it's in amongst what we want to do. 573 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 2: But you know what, if it happens, you can't plan that. 574 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 3: That's right right, it would be great, but right now, 575 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 3: in this moment, it would get in the way. 576 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: Right now, I think, oh my god, I love that. 577 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 3: Wait all right, if he's waiting outside for you're going 578 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 3: to leave me, Dad, I. 579 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: Was gonna say, Kathy will dump you like a bad 580 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: habit freaking. 581 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 2: What I'm going to say, thank you all ver much? 582 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 2: Is I'm a really good multitasker. Yeah, I can do it. 583 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 2: We can juggle there. 584 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: I believe it. I believe it. I just want to 585 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: tell you, guys, Unfortunately, and I'm heartbroken, we have to 586 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: wrap up, but I want to tell you that opening 587 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: up for me, opening up about the things things like 588 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: your husband's suicide, about divorce, you know that what you've 589 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: been through your journey, I was so touched by that. 590 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: That's real, right, And I just don't want to hear 591 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: about people's sad stories. But it's so easy to fall 592 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: in love with you guys because you're so honest and 593 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: you're ready to show the world I've been through stuff, right, 594 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: And for me, it's so much more interesting than watching 595 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: these twenty somethings thirty somethings. And I mean, I want 596 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: to end with that, it's not going to. 597 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 2: Be weak to make her prime, but I just want 598 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 2: to say that I love that you're saying that because 599 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 2: having a platform so that these tabloo subjects, that's part 600 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 2: of what it means for me. Part of this whole 601 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 2: process for me is is people feeling better about being 602 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 2: able to talk about those things. Yes, that's important to me, 603 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 2: it really is. 604 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: And me too, guy to travel with, Yeah, me too. 605 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: So lastly, I'm I'm annoyed about a lot. But another 606 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: thing I'm annoyed about is who is about? Why is 607 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: it taking so long for them to find about track? 608 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 1: Because I have a theory that it's because it's harder 609 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: to round up men because they're. 610 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 3: Like, that's what they all thought that, but they don't 611 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 3: let that secret out. They may know at this point 612 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 3: in time who it's going to be, but they don't 613 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 3: share it with you. 614 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: Well it's not I'm sure they do know. I mean, 615 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: it could be so many of you. But I wonder 616 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: if it's a if it's a male thing, and I 617 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: don't know that the man will bond. I doubt it 618 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: like the women did. 619 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, the thing that every time we've done interviews, they 620 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 2: ask us, would you with the Golden Maps? And I 621 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 2: respond every time with the same answer, I would. I 622 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 2: have a great experience. I would do this show again 623 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 2: in a heartbeat. But truly, I don't think they could 624 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 2: find twenty two guys who could keep up with me. 625 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 2: And I mean that I just don't. 626 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: I think you're probably right, and I think would be 627 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: way more awkward. And that's again that's for another show. 628 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: Just the difference between you know, men your age and 629 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: you guys and the women me too actually, And I'm 630 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: wondering are they ever going to do one that's for 631 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: fifty somethings late forties to sety. 632 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 2: Are the writers? Yes, I have right, you know, I 633 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 2: mean I have it all, all of. 634 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: It LGBT, Yes, fabulous. 635 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 2: I think it's a little more complicated you know, when 636 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 2: you've got young kids in that age range. But I 637 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 2: think that is a whole other avenue that I. 638 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: Know, like forties, like not young kids, like even forty 639 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: five to sixty. Yeah, something like that. I don't know. 640 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 2: Like people have careers. You know, Let's face it, when 641 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 2: they say I'm a therapist and they come on the show, 642 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 2: you're not a therapist because you what do you say 643 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 2: to your clients see in the year, I mean, you 644 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 2: can't do that? 645 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: So well, how long was it filling. 646 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 2: Away from your job? So that's hard. 647 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: It's a month, six weeks. 648 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 3: Who can leave their profession for six weeks? Not everybody, 649 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 3: so it would be hard. 650 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: You'll find women, though, I bet you would know the 651 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: men too, right right, All you need is one. I 652 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: don't know. I like it this way. I like it 653 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: with the group of women. I like to see them bond. 654 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: But you, guys, I have to tell you, I love 655 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,479 Speaker 1: and adore you. I want us to be friends. I'm 656 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: almost begging. So we're going to exchange numbers. I hope 657 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: we'll get. 658 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 2: By the first drink. 659 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,719 Speaker 1: I'll do the meal, really, okay, the drink is more 660 00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: important to me personally. But I heard that is. 661 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 2: It a Jewish thing that is a hundred. 662 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: It's a Jewish thing. Maybe the thing is though, I 663 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: do want a meatball. I do want one of your meatballs. 664 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 1: I don't give two ships about the guys. 665 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 2: Going out, Babe, I'm not cooking, but I will come. 666 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,839 Speaker 1: Oh, fair, fair fair, all right, you guys. 667 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 2: Reach out on Instagram and yeah we'll get together. Okay, okay, 668 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 2: Bachelor Nation Happy Hour, find us and then go to 669 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 2: Golden Hour. 670 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: Okay. I will congratulations on your podcast on all of 671 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: the exciting things happening in your life. I wish you 672 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: all good things. You guys, thanks for having right back 673 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:35,439 Speaker 1: at you. Thank you. Be well