WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Is Zeke Getting A Fair Shake? 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:07.560 This He is Talking Cowboys screaming live on Dallas Cowboys 0:00:07.600 --> 0:00:17.439 dot Com and the officials Dallas Cowboys. No. Your hosts, 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:24.640 Mickey's Fagnola, Brian brought us, Taylor Stern and Rob Phillips. Hello, everyone, 0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:28.639 and welcome into Talking Cowboys. We are live from the 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:32.879 SUBC Mortgage studio and we're getting ready to talk some 0:00:33.000 --> 0:00:37.040 more Dallas Cowboys football. But before then, how's everyone doing? 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:42.400 Mickey you joining us? I am he's here, pages of 0:00:42.600 --> 0:00:44.959 legal brief here. Push that, Mike just a little bit 0:00:45.000 --> 0:00:47.120 to your right. This is how are you? Brian? I'm 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:50.360 doing great, tam dy with her. May appreciate you not 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:54.880 a long range Mike, Yeah, nope, like a boom boom. 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:58.279 Put these onto a boom. I'm good, Tay, thank you. 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:01.880 I like that shirt right, thank you, very fashionable. Appreciate that. 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:04.800 And Mickey your color matching today because you guys usually 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:08.080 do that, but today you guys call ahead. Yeah, I said, Mick, 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:11.600 where the team are your vines? Jobs right there? I'm 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:13.880 not sure the brand actually got a preppy guy when 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:16.280 it comes. I'm kind of a preppy kind of a man. Yes, yes, 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:18.199 a preppy kind of man. And you know, this team's 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:21.319 getting a little preppy for the forty nine ers. What 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:25.880 a second, you know, I work on my transitions day. Yeah. 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:29.760 But of course yesterday everyone was highly alarmed when they 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:32.640 heard that. You know, Tyrn Smith not going to do 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:35.800 anything in practice. Of course he was DMP. But now 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:37.839 he's going to be back out there today, as coach 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:40.240 Garrett said, But the one that was still out with 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:42.959 his hamstring, which is really nice to see because we're 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:45.119 here in week seven and knock on wood, the Dallas 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:48.920 Cowboys only had four players on the practice report yesterday. 0:01:48.960 --> 0:01:53.320 Of course Cheeto was DMP with the hamstring, Lyle Collins 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:58.960 ankle full and Sean Lee there you go, back in action? Yeah, boy, 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:02.040 they missed him. Yig excite about I'm very excited about 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:04.400 that because somebody else's back in action for the forty 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:06.920 nine ers, and his name's Carlos Hide. Yeah. Yeah, like 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:09.920 Carlos Carlos Hide will be a difficult matchup to have 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:11.480 to do it. But you know, this would be the 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:15.200 first time that Hitchens and Lee have played together this season? 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:18.079 Am I correct about? That? Is correctly? Yeah, And that's 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:20.400 something that coming out of training camp. I feel like 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:22.680 that maybe there was not everything we were right about 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:25.560 coming out of training camp we talked about. But you 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:28.040 know this, this is the one combination that we did 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:30.560 like on defense that you know, Anthony Hitchins was playing 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:34.040 very well. Sean Lee. You knows Sean Lee. So hopefully 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:36.720 that can make a difference. It can't hurt, Yeah, it 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:40.280 surely can't hurt, especially with the way they've had to 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:44.000 deal with running games, the inability to tackle well. We 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:47.160 talked about that in great length yesterday. It's not just 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:50.680 one or two guys. It's a host of guys that 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:52.920 are having their issues and we'll see if it can 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:56.359 It can play out with Lee and Hitchins doing well 0:02:56.400 --> 0:02:58.040 for them in that running game. I think we spoke 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:00.840 to that yesterday. Just having Sean and then especially Hitchens too. 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:03.800 They play well off of each other. The communication, the experience, 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:06.760 keys and things of that nature. Thinks big in the 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:08.760 run defense part. But we talked about it too during 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:12.000 the bye week. You can't let those linemen get to 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:14.440 the second level. Yeah, So that's that's part of it too. 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:16.280 The d linemen have to hold up on their end too, 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:19.480 to give the linebackers some space to operate. Absolutely, Now, 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:21.800 Cheeto we know about his injury and he left the 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:25.880 Packers game or was it the Rams games Packers game? Yes, yeah, 0:03:25.880 --> 0:03:29.400 because he had returned to the Packers game from injuring 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:32.839 himself in the Broncos game. Right, I was winning, Left, 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:35.240 I'm trying to It's like every dB got hurt in that. 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:37.440 Was it Arizona? Or was it? It was? It was 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:40.160 it was Brons, it was Broncos, it was Parkers traps. 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:41.960 You're right, you are right about that Tech. Yeah, And 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:45.120 so you know, Cheeto still dealing with his hamstring and Mickey, 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:47.240 we've talked about it. These rookies that are dealing with 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:50.800 hamstring injuries obviously soft tissue. You have to be very 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:54.720 careful with it. How many more weeks are we expecting Cheeto? 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:57.200 He had the bye week last week. He's obviously not 0:03:57.280 --> 0:04:00.760 practicing this week. What are we looking for his future here, 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:03.880 at least for his rookie season. Did you did somebody 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:07.000 compare him to let me look into the future, Into 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:11.480 the future, Matt Johnson, you know those tweets? Remember him? No, 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:14.600 I haven't seen that yet. Matt didn't last very long. No, 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:18.039 Matt played like four years. He never played. Yeah, I 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:22.160 think he for four years, I want to say, or 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:24.640 three years at least. But yeah, you know, I don't 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:27.880 think it's that severe. God, I hope it's not that severe. Matt. 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:31.640 You would know, you know, you know the Cowboys. Yeah, yeah, 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:33.640 that's what I'm saying. Though. Matt Johnson was a guy 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:36.160 that was you know, was a was a player, yeah, 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:39.640 safety exactly right, that you know, he just could never 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:42.920 get healthy enough to play. And I don't think it 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:45.520 is this way with Cheetah. Gosh, I hope not well 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:48.440 that the word during the bye week was tight it got. 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:51.440 It wasn't like a severe reinjury. I don't think they 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:54.560 felt that. But again, when it's a soft tissue thing 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:58.040 and you reaggravate it, you got to be more careful 0:04:58.080 --> 0:05:01.560 with it the next time. So I don't know, it's 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:04.360 hard to put timetables on those things. I'm not I'm 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:06.400 not sure, Mick. I mean, I would think they give 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:09.200 it a couple of weeks. So even though he had 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:11.640 to buy that's right, a week. This is a week 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:14.760 and a half now, right, so maybe next week if 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:17.200 it if it wasn't that severe and it's the same 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:19.600 one that keeps crash up, it was at some point 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:22.520 you got it, just say it. That's what I was told. 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:26.240 It was keg, not a pole. So obviously the strength 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:28.680 that it is not where they need it to. I mean, 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:31.400 they're those these guys, Britt Brownie's guys. They work hard 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:33.120 on trying to get these guys when they when they 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:35.520 have these problems, to get them right. Yeah, definitely. And 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:38.640 so that's where you know, if you say, oh, it's 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:41.920 a full blown poll again, Okay, now that's yeah, you're 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:44.599 you're that's a that's a big time play. But when 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:48.160 you're when you're talking about it's fatigued, Well, okay, let's 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:49.839 figure out what we need to do and then and 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:52.320 they are that that's you know, but I think Mickey's right. 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:55.200 You know, you're talking about a bye week. You're talking 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:57.880 about maybe this week, you know, can you get him 0:05:57.920 --> 0:06:01.080 back for Washington, you know, maybe another week past that. 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:04.640 But it's unfortunate because there they are committed to playing 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:07.200 these young guys are they want to put him out there. 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:09.000 They put him out there against Green Bay. You like 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:10.719 what you saw from him at stage. I didn't have 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:12.839 a problem with that. I really really didn't. I know, 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:15.960 one time the ball was going to his right all 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:18.640 the way right sideline. He was playing left hash and 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:22.840 he went, you know, he outran, he outran several of 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:25.360 his teammates to get to the ball to make sure 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:27.760 that the that the ball Currey got knocked out of 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:30.400 bounce before they got to the sticks. Yeah, so you 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:32.000 know you're kind of like thinking, well, oh, that gives 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:34.359 you gives you a little encouragement that you know, and 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:36.440 there was things that he was doing even when Jordan 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:38.839 Lewis was out. We were like, oh, hey made another play. 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:42.159 Always playing the slot. Always he's doing this, always playing 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:44.760 for Byron Jones, because now Byron Jones could play back. 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:47.039 Did you ask that question? Who asked the questions about 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:50.680 playing Byron Jones up and back in the press conference 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:53.960 that Garrett was asked that question, Clarence asked about getting 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:56.480 him more involved in center field. Okay, I didn't know 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:58.119 if it was. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to compare 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:01.080 it to Clarence Hill there, I can see. Yeah, no, 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:05.240 but somebody asked the question. Somebody asked the question, though, 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:08.120 is the fact that Cheeto's not in the games or 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:12.880 not playing, is that taken away from your ability to say, Okay, 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:14.800 we were going to use him as a down player 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:17.640 and OTA's Mini Camps training camp and we were going 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:20.560 to play Byron Jones deep and now you're having to 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:24.280 play Byron Jones up and play Jeff Heath deep. Ye, 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:26.880 so is it? Is it? And Garrett says, you know, 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:28.440 you gotta play with who you gotta play with kind 0:07:28.480 --> 0:07:32.000 of thing. But yeah, if you're planning on you know, 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:35.080 you've you've got this nice plan where you're playing, uh, 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:36.560 you know. And and hey, by the way, keep an 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:39.240 eye on this too. As far as you know, we've 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:42.680 talked about Anthony Brown. You know, I'm talking to some 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:45.520 people about Lewis's gaining a lot of traction. You know, 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:48.400 if Anthony Brown's that doesn't play a little bit better 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:52.480 than we might see Jordan Lewis get more snaps with 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:55.560 you know, with Scandric. And then also maybe Lewis would 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:58.560 be your starter. And Mickey likes to talk about the 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:00.800 nickel stuff, which you know they play a ton of. 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:03.200 He's absolutely right, that's kind of considered your starter. But 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:05.720 in a base package, maybe we'll see more of Jordan 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:09.400 Lewis than that. In a bass Woozier was moving pretty 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:12.559 well when he was rehabbing the end of the bye week, 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:19.440 so it's not like he's an invalid right now. And 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:21.520 it wasn't just on the chords, you know, I was 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:25.640 doing a lot of straight ahead stuff too, So I 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:28.440 saw him doing the stuff he needed to do along 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:31.360 with Sean Lee, and he seemed to be moving better. 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:34.840 But again, I think they're just hesitant to push the 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:38.760 envelope on it when it keeps reoccurring. So yeah, I 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:41.520 think we'll maybe have to wait a while on him. 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:44.440 That's a shame. But hey, I just told you guys, 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:48.120 four guys on the Dallas Cowboys practice report, knock on wood, 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:50.480 knock on wood. Not the same for the San Francisco 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:53.319 forty nine ers. They had, they had a good handful. 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:56.959 And of course Ray Armstrong, their linebackers, seen news came 0:08:56.960 --> 0:08:59.520 out about him and Ruben Foster earlier this week. I 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:02.720 don't think that's gonna affect anything this week. It's something 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:05.560 to do where they were getting away, but Reuben Foster 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:08.439 didn't practice or he was limited. Both of them were 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:12.319 limited yesterday. And well, Foster has been out right, he's 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:14.160 been out. He's just trying to get back. He's trying 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:16.160 to get back. Yeah, they were kind of circling this 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:18.520 week as his return. Yeah, I had a high ankle 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:20.840 in the opener, So he's been out for about five 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:24.280 weeks now, and he's the guy that made him feel 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:26.800 comfortable letting Bowman go. Really, yeah, he's the guy that's 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:28.760 going to fill that spot. They're really high on him. 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:31.120 And although it isn't he an outside guy, he is 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:33.560 an outside he's a will linebacker, but they play him 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:35.400 in some of their nickel stuff and all. They were 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:37.840 playing him inside, so they were trying to do some 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:41.160 things with him. I think that that's a it's going 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:43.040 to be a struggle for them at linebacker, to be 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:45.360 honest with really, I mean yeah, I think I think 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:47.960 it is because I look at I look at who's replaced. 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:51.040 You know, you brock Korl was a guy you just 0:09:51.080 --> 0:09:54.920 kind of jokingly mentioned his name yesterday. He took he 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:59.440 took Bowman's spot, and he's clearly not even the same guy. 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:03.000 I mean it's talk about physical point of attack type player, 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:06.440 not even close to Bowman in that regard. So yeah, 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:10.080 we'll see Armstrong. I thought watching tape number fifty four 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:14.000 was their best linebacker as far as when Bowman wasn't 0:10:14.160 --> 0:10:17.200 wasn't in They were taking him out on exactly anyway, right, Yeah, 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:20.280 they sure were. But as far as going to the 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:24.520 football making things happen, I thought Anderson Armstrong was the 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:27.640 best one. We'll see what happens with Foster. Foster's a 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:32.319 run hit linebacker from Alabama, rookie. You know, you you 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:34.840 look at him at number ten. When you watch the tape, 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:36.880 you're like, oh, you never had to say, oh, where's Foster? 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:38.920 Because he was always going to be in the tackle. 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:41.080 He was always going to make a big hit. He 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:43.960 was sidelined the sideline player. He's a very physical player, 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:46.000 and you know, there's a lot of people that felt 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:49.400 like that San Francisco got a steel where they picked him, 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:52.199 but he had some shoulder he had any does Alabama 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:54.840 linebackers tend to come in the league a little bit 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:57.880 banged up and that might have cost him. And you know, 0:10:57.920 --> 0:11:01.199 we had what happened, you know with him, with with 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:04.120 some of the things that you know, with the injuries 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:06.199 and stuff like that, and people kind of dinged him 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:08.360 for that and then he went dropping down that board. 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:10.760 Did they trade back into the first to get him 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:13.840 or Solomon? Time they traded back in y have Foster 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:16.640 get Foster. Solomon Thomas was a top ten pick. Yeah, 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:19.760 that's right, third, third, third overall, I believe. Yeah, and 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:23.040 he was the guy who went to uh, I'm sorry, 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:26.440 he went to Stanford. So John Lynch had been looking 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:28.840 at him for quite a while. Local guy too, from 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:32.440 Capelle down the road. Yeah, you put those two together. 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:36.120 I think they're they like the direction of their young defense. Um, 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:38.559 but you mentioned the linebacker spot. If you feel like 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:41.720 that's their weakness. This is a pretty good run defense team. Yeah. 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:44.040 There their middle of the pack in the stats, but 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:46.959 they're they're only averaging three point four a carry on 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:50.520 for opponents. Yeah, what is it? Armstead and but those 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:53.800 big yeah seven, Yeah, they've they've got. You know, with Buttner, 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:56.120 there's a lot of folks that thought Buttner was drafted. 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:59.080 They were they were three four defensive team, you know, 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:01.360 with Chip Kelly and all that, and you know, so 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:04.400 they were they were playing that front. They draft the 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:07.640 Buck Armstead, those kinds of guys to play, and then 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:09.920 all of a sudden they switched to the four to three, 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:11.880 and there's a lot of folks that thought, oh, Buck, 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:14.199 there's no way that he could play that tall and 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:16.400 be a defensive tackle, a little bit like what you 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:19.480 get with David Irvy, a tall guy playing as a 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:22.400 defensive tackle. But he's been good. Armstead I think has 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:24.880 been the best of their defensive lineman even and that 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:27.960 includes even Solomon Thomas, and I think he's been pretty good. 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:31.000 Not going to be available this week, right or potentially? Yeah, 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:33.880 he's got the hand Armstead and broken hand put him 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:36.880 on IR. Yeah he was moving to IR Yeah, okay, Yeah, 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:39.360 so that that worry about him. That hurts them. I 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:41.199 mean that hurts him because they you know, they've had 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:44.760 some injury problems as well. I mean Aaron Lynch I 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:47.600 believe has also had some problems there as well. So 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:51.880 Duberville they just don't have that now. The depth is 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:54.400 going to be tested, but getting Armstead out of that 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:57.120 lineup will be huge for the Cowboys in my opinion. 0:12:57.160 --> 0:12:59.240 And I don't think they look at Dumerville as an 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:01.800 every down play, no, not at all, not at all. 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:05.720 He hasn't he didn't have any starts. He's their leader 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:07.880 in sacks, I believe, But yeah, he's kind of a 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:10.040 rotational guy. He's more of a pass rusher than he 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:12.800 is anything else, that's what you gotta deal with with him. Yeah, 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:14.880 but they are struggling, you're right, brand a lot of 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:18.080 guys on their defense, ye are just out. Yeah, and 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:21.640 that's not necessarily out, but they're they're recovering from these 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:24.160 injuries or they're dealing. They need to buy two. Yeah, 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:26.720 and they definitely need to buy I mean O and six. 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:29.120 They've had three road games. This will be their first 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:32.280 home game back. It's rare that you get the three 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:35.200 road game in a row, bit, you know, that's hard. Yeah, 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:39.559 and it's it's I think it's been where Indie, Washington? 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:42.280 And where was my third one? Who's my third road 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:46.840 game that they had? Washington, Washington Rams? They play the 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:51.360 Rams at home, I can't remember. Yeah, but anyway, Arizona, Arizona, 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:55.280 So that's not a terrible trip. But the Washington and Indie, 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:57.240 that's that's going across the country. And those are both 0:13:57.240 --> 0:13:59.600 early games. Yeah, that's a good bit. And they had 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:04.320 to play overtime, yeah twice. Let's hope that doesn't happen 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:07.000 this weekend now. Yeah. Now, because everyone keeps talking about 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:09.440 how close their games, their losses have come down to. 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:12.800 I get that. You just named, you know, the Colts. 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:14.800 That was a big one that came in down to that, 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:18.880 and I think that the uncertainty of Dallas's offense. I'm 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:21.200 interested to see what Mickey has to say for point 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:23.360 total this week for the Cowboys to have to maybe 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:25.360 win this game. Yeah, you've been saying it's got to 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:28.200 be forty. But but to me, you know, this is 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:30.320 one of those things with the uncertainty that you have 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:32.920 on the Cowboys defense, and hopefully Sean Lee makes a 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:36.000 difference in this defense, and hopefully the rest makes a 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:39.160 difference in this defense. But you know this is what 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:41.320 that This is why the uncertainty this is you know 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:44.840 your own six team, you know their rookie quarterback, all 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:48.080 these things that you think would be against them. But 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:51.240 with so many uncertainty with the Cowboys defense, it's it's 0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:53.640 probably gonna be pretty even game. It could go one 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:55.400 or two ways for a team it's own six and 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:58.600 has lost five games in a row by thirteen total points. 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:00.800 I mean, you can either let down or you can 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:03.200 kind of rally because, as Tay said, you're back home 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:05.800 and maybe there's some new juice with a young quarterback 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:07.760 that you think can rally you a little bit, so 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:10.160 I'm interested to see. I mean, I wouldn't call this 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:11.920 a trap game because the Cowboys need to get back 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:14.240 to five hundred. I mean, this is not an undefeated 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:15.800 Cowboys team either. They need to get back on the 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:19.360 right track. But Mickey always says the more you lose, 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:21.080 the closer ye are of winning. It'd be a trap 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:24.960 game for San Francisco. It's like they're thinking, oh, we're 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:27.520 gonna win one. They look who's coming to town, A 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:29.840 two and three team. Well, they have to feel like 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:32.080 though I've written about this before, I feel like that 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:34.240 Kyle Shanahan has to feel like that they could run 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:37.240 the football and an offensive balance is going to be 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:39.480 key for them. It really will. Look at what's happened 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:41.440 in the last two weeks, one hundred and sixty four 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:44.160 yards rushing in both those games. You know that that 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:47.440 is one of the difference why the Rams had success 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:50.400 the Packers had success because you couldn't the strength you 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:52.880 have is pass rush. You could never get it to 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:54.520 where you could pass rush where you could just pin 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:56.840 your ears back like they did in the Arizona game. 0:15:56.920 --> 0:15:58.760 You know, they pin their ears back and look what happened. 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:02.640 You know this game. You hope you control the running game. 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:04.480 You find a way to get them in some not 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:07.720 manageable third down situations. Now you can pin your ears 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:09.800 back and go and play to your strength. But that's 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:13.240 going to be their priority. Try to protect the young quarterback, 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:15.600 run the ball, don't don't get them in a lot 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:18.800 of tough situations. So if they can run and protect 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:21.040 him and not ask them to do a heck of 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:23.080 a lot, you know, that's got to be what their 0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:26.560 game plan, especially when you look at the Cowboys run defense. Yeah, 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:29.360 you know, I'm I'm looking at the stats here the tackles. 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:32.440 You got to go all the way down to the 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:36.640 ninth person in total tackles to find a defensive lineman. 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:40.240 Nine eight guys got more? How many tackles than any 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:42.400 defensive line? How many are in the secondary at the 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:45.640 top of the list, it's all it's all secondary in 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:50.560 linebackers and and and at nine and ten? Or is 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:54.920 your first two defensive linemen in total tackles? And guess 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:59.520 what it's twelve and eleven? Can that be right? Is 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:03.400 that not? And updated? What what Marcus Lawrence? They got 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:08.720 him down for twelve tackles. That can't be right. He's 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:11.360 does a sack count as a tackle? No, because he's 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:12.920 had a bunch of those, Yeah, eight and a half 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:16.120 of those. That's the thing. I think that's there's think 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:18.400 that might not have got updated. No, I think that's 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:20.960 kind of where they are at. Really, yeah, i'd really do. 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:24.040 And MALIEK. Collins only has eleven total tackles. See that's 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:26.560 what we're talking about, though, Mickey. I mean you you 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:28.640 you've said it. You you even said it. You called out. 0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:31.720 I don't mean to call out. You said, hey, offensive line, 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:35.199 defensive line played better, MALIEK. Collins. You know, Rob just 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:38.760 mentioned second level blocks, stuff like that. Guys getting off site. 0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:41.480 You know, hey, you've you've got to we haven't seen 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:45.919 we haven't seen MALIEK. Collins make those those plays, you know, 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:48.480 down after down after down that we saw him battling 0:17:48.680 --> 0:17:51.480 Zach Martin. I'm thinking, okay, I get ready, rest of 0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:54.639 the National Football League. You know, here's here's here's what 0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:58.359 you're gonna get. And it just hasn't materialized like I 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:00.840 thought it would with with him play in the inside. 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:04.040 So we'll see. Maybe this will be Taco's breakout game. 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:07.399 Maybe this will be that because you know he knows CJ. 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:10.120 Beth Third from Iowa. Yeah, there you go. They kind 0:18:10.119 --> 0:18:12.040 of beat them last year on a salty end of 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:14.000 the game. That was a salty end of the game. 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:16.840 Jordan Lewis too, Jordan Lewis, but maybe hopefully you know, 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:19.280 you're talking about increasing the past rush. Would you guys 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:22.720 like to see Taco finally have that breakout play well 0:18:23.160 --> 0:18:27.439 just doing here's the defensive line. Yeah, he's holding up 0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:30.600 a pen. It's listing right. It's like, yeah, the guy 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:33.280 over here is doing really well, and the teeter totter 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:38.359 over here goes up in the air. Saw, yes, teeter Totter. 0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:40.600 I'd like to see Taco do well just so the 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:43.240 coaches put him out there more. I don't think he's 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:45.520 given the coach play. I don't think he's given the 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:48.320 coaches really much reason to say, Okay, we're gonna you know, 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:51.040 that's what we've seen with Jordan Lewis. Uh, you know, 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:55.239 Xavier Woods, these young guys, Uh, Bryce Butler, you know, 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:59.320 get you get more plays when you do things positively 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:01.240 in the game. Don't be a guy that we put 0:19:01.280 --> 0:19:03.600 in there and then it's the same old, same old, 0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:06.160 for three or four plays in a row, and then well, okay, 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:09.000 we'll give you another run twenty five plays from now, 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:10.680 where it's three or four more plays and you're doing 0:19:10.720 --> 0:19:13.440 the same thing. Give the coaches a reason to put 0:19:13.480 --> 0:19:16.399 you in there and take somebody else out. That's what 0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:18.879 it's That's really what this is all about. And the 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:22.600 lack of doing that I think has affected the way 0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:25.560 he's played. It's not the coaches, Yankee. He's got to 0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:28.639 prove of the coaches that he can help and make plays. 0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:31.440 Absolutely well, let's get to more of that and talk 0:19:31.480 --> 0:19:34.960 about Ezekiel Elliott finally spoke yesterday in the locker room, 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:37.720 had some very interesting things to say. We'll get into 0:19:37.760 --> 0:19:40.240 that and much more after this first break Here in 0:19:40.280 --> 0:19:44.000 the s WBC Mortgage Studio, we the entertainment loving people, 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:46.680