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Speaker 1: Mickey's Fagnola, Brian brought us, Taylor Stern and Rob Phillips. Hello, everyone,
Speaker 1: and welcome into Talking Cowboys. We are live from the
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Speaker 1: more Dallas Cowboys football. But before then, how's everyone doing?
Speaker 1: Mickey you joining us? I am he's here, pages of
Speaker 1: legal brief here. Push that, Mike just a little bit
Speaker 1: to your right. This is how are you? Brian? I'm
Speaker 1: doing great, tam dy with her. May appreciate you not
Speaker 1: a long range Mike, Yeah, nope, like a boom boom.
Speaker 1: Put these onto a boom. I'm good, Tay, thank you.
Speaker 1: I like that shirt right, thank you, very fashionable. Appreciate that.
Speaker 1: And Mickey your color matching today because you guys usually
Speaker 1: do that, but today you guys call ahead. Yeah, I said, Mick,
Speaker 1: where the team are your vines? Jobs right there? I'm
Speaker 1: not sure the brand actually got a preppy guy when
Speaker 1: it comes. I'm kind of a preppy kind of a man. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: a preppy kind of man. And you know, this team's
Speaker 1: getting a little preppy for the forty nine ers. What
Speaker 1: a second, you know, I work on my transitions day. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But of course yesterday everyone was highly alarmed when they
Speaker 1: heard that. You know, Tyrn Smith not going to do
Speaker 1: anything in practice. Of course he was DMP. But now
Speaker 1: he's going to be back out there today, as coach
Speaker 1: Garrett said, But the one that was still out with
Speaker 1: his hamstring, which is really nice to see because we're
Speaker 1: here in week seven and knock on wood, the Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys only had four players on the practice report yesterday.
Speaker 1: Of course Cheeto was DMP with the hamstring, Lyle Collins
Speaker 1: ankle full and Sean Lee there you go, back in action? Yeah, boy,
Speaker 1: they missed him. Yig excite about I'm very excited about
Speaker 1: that because somebody else's back in action for the forty
Speaker 1: nine ers, and his name's Carlos Hide. Yeah. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: Carlos Carlos Hide will be a difficult matchup to have
Speaker 1: to do it. But you know, this would be the
Speaker 1: first time that Hitchens and Lee have played together this season?
Speaker 1: Am I correct about? That? Is correctly? Yeah, And that's
Speaker 1: something that coming out of training camp. I feel like
Speaker 1: that maybe there was not everything we were right about
Speaker 1: coming out of training camp we talked about. But you
Speaker 1: know this, this is the one combination that we did
Speaker 1: like on defense that you know, Anthony Hitchins was playing
Speaker 1: very well. Sean Lee. You knows Sean Lee. So hopefully
Speaker 1: that can make a difference. It can't hurt, Yeah, it
Speaker 1: surely can't hurt, especially with the way they've had to
Speaker 1: deal with running games, the inability to tackle well. We
Speaker 1: talked about that in great length yesterday. It's not just
Speaker 1: one or two guys. It's a host of guys that
Speaker 1: are having their issues and we'll see if it can
Speaker 1: It can play out with Lee and Hitchins doing well
Speaker 1: for them in that running game. I think we spoke
Speaker 1: to that yesterday. Just having Sean and then especially Hitchens too.
Speaker 1: They play well off of each other. The communication, the experience,
Speaker 1: keys and things of that nature. Thinks big in the
Speaker 1: run defense part. But we talked about it too during
Speaker 1: the bye week. You can't let those linemen get to
Speaker 1: the second level. Yeah, So that's that's part of it too.
Speaker 1: The d linemen have to hold up on their end too,
Speaker 1: to give the linebackers some space to operate. Absolutely, Now,
Speaker 1: Cheeto we know about his injury and he left the
Speaker 1: Packers game or was it the Rams games Packers game? Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: because he had returned to the Packers game from injuring
Speaker 1: himself in the Broncos game. Right, I was winning, Left,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to It's like every dB got hurt in that.
Speaker 1: Was it Arizona? Or was it? It was? It was
Speaker 1: it was Brons, it was Broncos, it was Parkers traps.
Speaker 1: You're right, you are right about that Tech. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: so you know, Cheeto still dealing with his hamstring and Mickey,
Speaker 1: we've talked about it. These rookies that are dealing with
Speaker 1: hamstring injuries obviously soft tissue. You have to be very
Speaker 1: careful with it. How many more weeks are we expecting Cheeto?
Speaker 1: He had the bye week last week. He's obviously not
Speaker 1: practicing this week. What are we looking for his future here,
Speaker 1: at least for his rookie season. Did you did somebody
Speaker 1: compare him to let me look into the future, Into
Speaker 1: the future, Matt Johnson, you know those tweets? Remember him? No,
Speaker 1: I haven't seen that yet. Matt didn't last very long. No,
Speaker 1: Matt played like four years. He never played. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think he for four years, I want to say, or
Speaker 1: three years at least. But yeah, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: think it's that severe. God, I hope it's not that severe. Matt.
Speaker 1: You would know, you know, you know the Cowboys. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Though. Matt Johnson was a guy
Speaker 1: that was you know, was a was a player, yeah,
Speaker 1: safety exactly right, that you know, he just could never
Speaker 1: get healthy enough to play. And I don't think it
Speaker 1: is this way with Cheetah. Gosh, I hope not well
Speaker 1: that the word during the bye week was tight it got.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like a severe reinjury. I don't think they
Speaker 1: felt that. But again, when it's a soft tissue thing
Speaker 1: and you reaggravate it, you got to be more careful
Speaker 1: with it the next time. So I don't know, it's
Speaker 1: hard to put timetables on those things. I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: not sure, Mick. I mean, I would think they give
Speaker 1: it a couple of weeks. So even though he had
Speaker 1: to buy that's right, a week. This is a week
Speaker 1: and a half now, right, so maybe next week if
Speaker 1: it if it wasn't that severe and it's the same
Speaker 1: one that keeps crash up, it was at some point
Speaker 1: you got it, just say it. That's what I was told.
Speaker 1: It was keg, not a pole. So obviously the strength
Speaker 1: that it is not where they need it to. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're those these guys, Britt Brownie's guys. They work hard
Speaker 1: on trying to get these guys when they when they
Speaker 1: have these problems, to get them right. Yeah, definitely. And
Speaker 1: so that's where you know, if you say, oh, it's
Speaker 1: a full blown poll again, Okay, now that's yeah, you're
Speaker 1: you're that's a that's a big time play. But when
Speaker 1: you're when you're talking about it's fatigued, Well, okay, let's
Speaker 1: figure out what we need to do and then and
Speaker 1: they are that that's you know, but I think Mickey's right.
Speaker 1: You know, you're talking about a bye week. You're talking
Speaker 1: about maybe this week, you know, can you get him
Speaker 1: back for Washington, you know, maybe another week past that.
Speaker 1: But it's unfortunate because there they are committed to playing
Speaker 1: these young guys are they want to put him out there.
Speaker 1: They put him out there against Green Bay. You like
Speaker 1: what you saw from him at stage. I didn't have
Speaker 1: a problem with that. I really really didn't. I know,
Speaker 1: one time the ball was going to his right all
Speaker 1: the way right sideline. He was playing left hash and
Speaker 1: he went, you know, he outran, he outran several of
Speaker 1: his teammates to get to the ball to make sure
Speaker 1: that the that the ball Currey got knocked out of
Speaker 1: bounce before they got to the sticks. Yeah, so you
Speaker 1: know you're kind of like thinking, well, oh, that gives
Speaker 1: you gives you a little encouragement that you know, and
Speaker 1: there was things that he was doing even when Jordan
Speaker 1: Lewis was out. We were like, oh, hey made another play.
Speaker 1: Always playing the slot. Always he's doing this, always playing
Speaker 1: for Byron Jones, because now Byron Jones could play back.
Speaker 1: Did you ask that question? Who asked the questions about
Speaker 1: playing Byron Jones up and back in the press conference
Speaker 1: that Garrett was asked that question, Clarence asked about getting
Speaker 1: him more involved in center field. Okay, I didn't know
Speaker 1: if it was. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to compare
Speaker 1: it to Clarence Hill there, I can see. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: but somebody asked the question. Somebody asked the question, though,
Speaker 1: is the fact that Cheeto's not in the games or
Speaker 1: not playing, is that taken away from your ability to say, Okay,
Speaker 1: we were going to use him as a down player
Speaker 1: and OTA's Mini Camps training camp and we were going
Speaker 1: to play Byron Jones deep and now you're having to
Speaker 1: play Byron Jones up and play Jeff Heath deep. Ye,
Speaker 1: so is it? Is it? And Garrett says, you know,
Speaker 1: you gotta play with who you gotta play with kind
Speaker 1: of thing. But yeah, if you're planning on you know,
Speaker 1: you've you've got this nice plan where you're playing, uh,
Speaker 1: you know. And and hey, by the way, keep an
Speaker 1: eye on this too. As far as you know, we've
Speaker 1: talked about Anthony Brown. You know, I'm talking to some
Speaker 1: people about Lewis's gaining a lot of traction. You know,
Speaker 1: if Anthony Brown's that doesn't play a little bit better
Speaker 1: than we might see Jordan Lewis get more snaps with
Speaker 1: you know, with Scandric. And then also maybe Lewis would
Speaker 1: be your starter. And Mickey likes to talk about the
Speaker 1: nickel stuff, which you know they play a ton of.
Speaker 1: He's absolutely right, that's kind of considered your starter. But
Speaker 1: in a base package, maybe we'll see more of Jordan
Speaker 1: Lewis than that. In a bass Woozier was moving pretty
Speaker 1: well when he was rehabbing the end of the bye week,
Speaker 1: so it's not like he's an invalid right now. And
Speaker 1: it wasn't just on the chords, you know, I was
Speaker 1: doing a lot of straight ahead stuff too, So I
Speaker 1: saw him doing the stuff he needed to do along
Speaker 1: with Sean Lee, and he seemed to be moving better.
Speaker 1: But again, I think they're just hesitant to push the
Speaker 1: envelope on it when it keeps reoccurring. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: think we'll maybe have to wait a while on him.
Speaker 1: That's a shame. But hey, I just told you guys,
Speaker 1: four guys on the Dallas Cowboys practice report, knock on wood,
Speaker 1: knock on wood. Not the same for the San Francisco
Speaker 1: forty nine ers. They had, they had a good handful.
Speaker 1: And of course Ray Armstrong, their linebackers, seen news came
Speaker 1: out about him and Ruben Foster earlier this week. I
Speaker 1: don't think that's gonna affect anything this week. It's something
Speaker 1: to do where they were getting away, but Reuben Foster
Speaker 1: didn't practice or he was limited. Both of them were
Speaker 1: limited yesterday. And well, Foster has been out right, he's
Speaker 1: been out. He's just trying to get back. He's trying
Speaker 1: to get back. Yeah, they were kind of circling this
Speaker 1: week as his return. Yeah, I had a high ankle
Speaker 1: in the opener, So he's been out for about five
Speaker 1: weeks now, and he's the guy that made him feel
Speaker 1: comfortable letting Bowman go. Really, yeah, he's the guy that's
Speaker 1: going to fill that spot. They're really high on him.
Speaker 1: And although it isn't he an outside guy, he is
Speaker 1: an outside he's a will linebacker, but they play him
Speaker 1: in some of their nickel stuff and all. They were
Speaker 1: playing him inside, so they were trying to do some
Speaker 1: things with him. I think that that's a it's going
Speaker 1: to be a struggle for them at linebacker, to be
Speaker 1: honest with really, I mean yeah, I think I think
Speaker 1: it is because I look at I look at who's replaced.
Speaker 1: You know, you brock Korl was a guy you just
Speaker 1: kind of jokingly mentioned his name yesterday. He took he
Speaker 1: took Bowman's spot, and he's clearly not even the same guy.
Speaker 1: I mean it's talk about physical point of attack type player,
Speaker 1: not even close to Bowman in that regard. So yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll see Armstrong. I thought watching tape number fifty four
Speaker 1: was their best linebacker as far as when Bowman wasn't
Speaker 1: wasn't in They were taking him out on exactly anyway, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they sure were. But as far as going to the
Speaker 1: football making things happen, I thought Anderson Armstrong was the
Speaker 1: best one. We'll see what happens with Foster. Foster's a
Speaker 1: run hit linebacker from Alabama, rookie. You know, you you
Speaker 1: look at him at number ten. When you watch the tape,
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, you never had to say, oh, where's Foster?
Speaker 1: Because he was always going to be in the tackle.
Speaker 1: He was always going to make a big hit. He
Speaker 1: was sidelined the sideline player. He's a very physical player,
Speaker 1: and you know, there's a lot of people that felt
Speaker 1: like that San Francisco got a steel where they picked him,
Speaker 1: but he had some shoulder he had any does Alabama
Speaker 1: linebackers tend to come in the league a little bit
Speaker 1: banged up and that might have cost him. And you know,
Speaker 1: we had what happened, you know with him, with with
Speaker 1: some of the things that you know, with the injuries
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, and people kind of dinged him
Speaker 1: for that and then he went dropping down that board.
Speaker 1: Did they trade back into the first to get him
Speaker 1: or Solomon? Time they traded back in y have Foster
Speaker 1: get Foster. Solomon Thomas was a top ten pick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right, third, third, third overall, I believe. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: he was the guy who went to uh, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: he went to Stanford. So John Lynch had been looking
Speaker 1: at him for quite a while. Local guy too, from
Speaker 1: Capelle down the road. Yeah, you put those two together.
Speaker 1: I think they're they like the direction of their young defense. Um,
Speaker 1: but you mentioned the linebacker spot. If you feel like
Speaker 1: that's their weakness. This is a pretty good run defense team. Yeah.
Speaker 1: There their middle of the pack in the stats, but
Speaker 1: they're they're only averaging three point four a carry on
Speaker 1: for opponents. Yeah, what is it? Armstead and but those
Speaker 1: big yeah seven, Yeah, they've they've got. You know, with Buttner,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of folks that thought Buttner was drafted.
Speaker 1: They were they were three four defensive team, you know,
Speaker 1: with Chip Kelly and all that, and you know, so
Speaker 1: they were they were playing that front. They draft the
Speaker 1: Buck Armstead, those kinds of guys to play, and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden they switched to the four to three,
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of folks that thought, oh, Buck,
Speaker 1: there's no way that he could play that tall and
Speaker 1: be a defensive tackle, a little bit like what you
Speaker 1: get with David Irvy, a tall guy playing as a
Speaker 1: defensive tackle. But he's been good. Armstead I think has
Speaker 1: been the best of their defensive lineman even and that
Speaker 1: includes even Solomon Thomas, and I think he's been pretty good.
Speaker 1: Not going to be available this week, right or potentially? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's got the hand Armstead and broken hand put him
Speaker 1: on IR. Yeah he was moving to IR Yeah, okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that that worry about him. That hurts them. I
Speaker 1: mean that hurts him because they you know, they've had
Speaker 1: some injury problems as well. I mean Aaron Lynch I
Speaker 1: believe has also had some problems there as well. So
Speaker 1: Duberville they just don't have that now. The depth is
Speaker 1: going to be tested, but getting Armstead out of that
Speaker 1: lineup will be huge for the Cowboys in my opinion.
Speaker 1: And I don't think they look at Dumerville as an
Speaker 1: every down play, no, not at all, not at all.
Speaker 1: He hasn't he didn't have any starts. He's their leader
Speaker 1: in sacks, I believe, But yeah, he's kind of a
Speaker 1: rotational guy. He's more of a pass rusher than he
Speaker 1: is anything else, that's what you gotta deal with with him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they are struggling, you're right, brand a lot of
Speaker 1: guys on their defense, ye are just out. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: that's not necessarily out, but they're they're recovering from these
Speaker 1: injuries or they're dealing. They need to buy two. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they definitely need to buy I mean O and six.
Speaker 1: They've had three road games. This will be their first
Speaker 1: home game back. It's rare that you get the three
Speaker 1: road game in a row, bit, you know, that's hard. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's it's I think it's been where Indie, Washington?
Speaker 1: And where was my third one? Who's my third road
Speaker 1: game that they had? Washington, Washington Rams? They play the
Speaker 1: Rams at home, I can't remember. Yeah, but anyway, Arizona, Arizona,
Speaker 1: So that's not a terrible trip. But the Washington and Indie,
Speaker 1: that's that's going across the country. And those are both
Speaker 1: early games. Yeah, that's a good bit. And they had
Speaker 1: to play overtime, yeah twice. Let's hope that doesn't happen
Speaker 1: this weekend now. Yeah. Now, because everyone keeps talking about
Speaker 1: how close their games, their losses have come down to.
Speaker 1: I get that. You just named, you know, the Colts.
Speaker 1: That was a big one that came in down to that,
Speaker 1: and I think that the uncertainty of Dallas's offense. I'm
Speaker 1: interested to see what Mickey has to say for point
Speaker 1: total this week for the Cowboys to have to maybe
Speaker 1: win this game. Yeah, you've been saying it's got to
Speaker 1: be forty. But but to me, you know, this is
Speaker 1: one of those things with the uncertainty that you have
Speaker 1: on the Cowboys defense, and hopefully Sean Lee makes a
Speaker 1: difference in this defense, and hopefully the rest makes a
Speaker 1: difference in this defense. But you know this is what
Speaker 1: that This is why the uncertainty this is you know
Speaker 1: your own six team, you know their rookie quarterback, all
Speaker 1: these things that you think would be against them. But
Speaker 1: with so many uncertainty with the Cowboys defense, it's it's
Speaker 1: probably gonna be pretty even game. It could go one
Speaker 1: or two ways for a team it's own six and
Speaker 1: has lost five games in a row by thirteen total points.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can either let down or you can
Speaker 1: kind of rally because, as Tay said, you're back home
Speaker 1: and maybe there's some new juice with a young quarterback
Speaker 1: that you think can rally you a little bit, so
Speaker 1: I'm interested to see. I mean, I wouldn't call this
Speaker 1: a trap game because the Cowboys need to get back
Speaker 1: to five hundred. I mean, this is not an undefeated
Speaker 1: Cowboys team either. They need to get back on the
Speaker 1: right track. But Mickey always says the more you lose,
Speaker 1: the closer ye are of winning. It'd be a trap
Speaker 1: game for San Francisco. It's like they're thinking, oh, we're
Speaker 1: gonna win one. They look who's coming to town, A
Speaker 1: two and three team. Well, they have to feel like
Speaker 1: though I've written about this before, I feel like that
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan has to feel like that they could run
Speaker 1: the football and an offensive balance is going to be
Speaker 1: key for them. It really will. Look at what's happened
Speaker 1: in the last two weeks, one hundred and sixty four
Speaker 1: yards rushing in both those games. You know that that
Speaker 1: is one of the difference why the Rams had success
Speaker 1: the Packers had success because you couldn't the strength you
Speaker 1: have is pass rush. You could never get it to
Speaker 1: where you could pass rush where you could just pin
Speaker 1: your ears back like they did in the Arizona game.
Speaker 1: You know, they pin their ears back and look what happened.
Speaker 1: You know this game. You hope you control the running game.
Speaker 1: You find a way to get them in some not
Speaker 1: manageable third down situations. Now you can pin your ears
Speaker 1: back and go and play to your strength. But that's
Speaker 1: going to be their priority. Try to protect the young quarterback,
Speaker 1: run the ball, don't don't get them in a lot
Speaker 1: of tough situations. So if they can run and protect
Speaker 1: him and not ask them to do a heck of
Speaker 1: a lot, you know, that's got to be what their
Speaker 1: game plan, especially when you look at the Cowboys run defense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm looking at the stats here the tackles.
Speaker 1: You got to go all the way down to the
Speaker 1: ninth person in total tackles to find a defensive lineman.
Speaker 1: Nine eight guys got more? How many tackles than any
Speaker 1: defensive line? How many are in the secondary at the
Speaker 1: top of the list, it's all it's all secondary in
Speaker 1: linebackers and and and at nine and ten? Or is
Speaker 1: your first two defensive linemen in total tackles? And guess
Speaker 1: what it's twelve and eleven? Can that be right? Is
Speaker 1: that not? And updated? What what Marcus Lawrence? They got
Speaker 1: him down for twelve tackles. That can't be right. He's
Speaker 1: does a sack count as a tackle? No, because he's
Speaker 1: had a bunch of those, Yeah, eight and a half
Speaker 1: of those. That's the thing. I think that's there's think
Speaker 1: that might not have got updated. No, I think that's
Speaker 1: kind of where they are at. Really, yeah, i'd really do.
Speaker 1: And MALIEK. Collins only has eleven total tackles. See that's
Speaker 1: what we're talking about, though, Mickey. I mean you you
Speaker 1: you've said it. You you even said it. You called out.
Speaker 1: I don't mean to call out. You said, hey, offensive line,
Speaker 1: defensive line played better, MALIEK. Collins. You know, Rob just
Speaker 1: mentioned second level blocks, stuff like that. Guys getting off site.
Speaker 1: You know, hey, you've you've got to we haven't seen
Speaker 1: we haven't seen MALIEK. Collins make those those plays, you know,
Speaker 1: down after down after down that we saw him battling
Speaker 1: Zach Martin. I'm thinking, okay, I get ready, rest of
Speaker 1: the National Football League. You know, here's here's here's what
Speaker 1: you're gonna get. And it just hasn't materialized like I
Speaker 1: thought it would with with him play in the inside.
Speaker 1: So we'll see. Maybe this will be Taco's breakout game.
Speaker 1: Maybe this will be that because you know he knows CJ.
Speaker 1: Beth Third from Iowa. Yeah, there you go. They kind
Speaker 1: of beat them last year on a salty end of
Speaker 1: the game. That was a salty end of the game.
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis too, Jordan Lewis, but maybe hopefully you know,
Speaker 1: you're talking about increasing the past rush. Would you guys
Speaker 1: like to see Taco finally have that breakout play well
Speaker 1: just doing here's the defensive line. Yeah, he's holding up
Speaker 1: a pen. It's listing right. It's like, yeah, the guy
Speaker 1: over here is doing really well, and the teeter totter
Speaker 1: over here goes up in the air. Saw, yes, teeter Totter.
Speaker 1: I'd like to see Taco do well just so the
Speaker 1: coaches put him out there more. I don't think he's
Speaker 1: given the coach play. I don't think he's given the
Speaker 1: coaches really much reason to say, Okay, we're gonna you know,
Speaker 1: that's what we've seen with Jordan Lewis. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: Xavier Woods, these young guys, Uh, Bryce Butler, you know,
Speaker 1: get you get more plays when you do things positively
Speaker 1: in the game. Don't be a guy that we put
Speaker 1: in there and then it's the same old, same old,
Speaker 1: for three or four plays in a row, and then well, okay,
Speaker 1: we'll give you another run twenty five plays from now,
Speaker 1: where it's three or four more plays and you're doing
Speaker 1: the same thing. Give the coaches a reason to put
Speaker 1: you in there and take somebody else out. That's what
Speaker 1: it's That's really what this is all about. And the
Speaker 1: lack of doing that I think has affected the way
Speaker 1: he's played. It's not the coaches, Yankee. He's got to
Speaker 1: prove of the coaches that he can help and make plays.
Speaker 1: Absolutely well, let's get to more of that and talk
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Speaker 1: threw that in there, did you? Yeah, back to you day.
Speaker 1: I caught it. Oh, you know, Rob, you just can't
Speaker 1: win on that one. I know. I'm trying to kind
Speaker 1: of personalize a little bit. I appreciate it because thanks
Speaker 1: because we're back here, guys, and we got to talk.
Speaker 1: Ezek Elliott talked yesterday and he was actually very candid
Speaker 1: about everything, talking of course about his ongoing court case
Speaker 1: and and Ken Garrison. Our producer is going to go
Speaker 1: ahead and play a quick clip of what he was
Speaker 1: discussing about the reasons to clear his name. That's all
Speaker 1: it comes down to I mean, when when you get
Speaker 1: a queue of sometime of that magnitude and kind of
Speaker 1: get labeled as an abuser, and that's it's not that's
Speaker 1: not me, that's not how I want to be saying.
Speaker 1: That's not what I want to represent my family, and
Speaker 1: so I mean, it's just important for me to just
Speaker 1: to fight. Okay, Well there you go. I mean, he
Speaker 1: really has not spoken about this at all. He didn't
Speaker 1: speak at all during training camp. He really didn't talk
Speaker 1: that much about this. When he got back here and
Speaker 1: he was playing, he was very focused on just talking
Speaker 1: about football. Of course, now you know he's saying, I
Speaker 1: have to clear my name and this is not what
Speaker 1: I want to be represented. I thought that was open
Speaker 1: and honest from him, and you know he kind of
Speaker 1: did say, yeah, it's taken a toll a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I said, it's been a little tiring, which is what
Speaker 1: you've mentioned yesterday. That was Yeah, that was the most
Speaker 1: candid I've I've heard him be about the situation. And
Speaker 1: it's got to wear on him a little bit. I
Speaker 1: think I think it's got to help Tuesday to have
Speaker 1: that victory. It's temporary victory. Will see what happens next.
Speaker 1: There's been reports that Okay, maybe they're going to talk
Speaker 1: settlement between the two sides. I don't know if that's
Speaker 1: going to happen. But which side do you think is
Speaker 1: proposing that in light of what he just said? He is,
Speaker 1: he just said he wants to clear his name. Why
Speaker 1: didn't you take a oh you said settlement? I would
Speaker 1: he take a settlement? So you say in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Maybe the NFL is sitting there looking at this and going, now,
Speaker 1: that's the third judge that didn't agree with Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think there were all though they just put out a
Speaker 1: twenty eight page I knew you would run that off
Speaker 1: for I saw it on Twitter for the guy at
Speaker 1: the lady to be able to when they when they
Speaker 1: challenge judge. Yeah, the judge Katherine, Judge Katherine, you know,
Speaker 1: clear your name, you know? And this this is the
Speaker 1: this is the thing I've always thought about about him,
Speaker 1: clear your name, clearer name. But with the NFL, because
Speaker 1: it's not the courts haven't I mean, the court didn't
Speaker 1: say that he was a domestic violence person. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's the problem I have. He's being labeled something
Speaker 1: that he doesn't He believes he's not by the NFL.
Speaker 1: The NFL is about entertainment. It's not about judge and jury.
Speaker 1: And that's what we become. That three hours a day
Speaker 1: that we really enjoyed on Thursdays and Saturdays sometimes and
Speaker 1: Sundays and Mondays. They've taken that away from us with
Speaker 1: all this they really have and the fact that they're
Speaker 1: able to make. You know, we have very capable men
Speaker 1: and women in the legal system that are outstanding judges, lawyers, clerks,
Speaker 1: whatever you want to say, people that are far smarter
Speaker 1: than me. But now we've we've made it, We've brought
Speaker 1: them into the game. And you know what, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't think they necessarily want to be in part
Speaker 1: of our game. I really don't. It's a lot to
Speaker 1: take on. I think they want to be, you know.
Speaker 1: I think they want to handle the real case of
Speaker 1: the United States and the fact that the league has
Speaker 1: taken on this, you know, and they've took thirteen months
Speaker 1: to label him a domestic violence abuser. And I think that,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm the guy that says, why do you
Speaker 1: have to clear your name when the court of law?
Speaker 1: United States? Nobody filed Nobody filed against him. No, I
Speaker 1: mean he Jordan Lewis had to go clear his name.
Speaker 1: Mickey did a heck of a job during training camp
Speaker 1: keeping us abreast of what was going on with Jordan Lewis.
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis took an opportunity to go before a judge
Speaker 1: of his peers and to clear his name, and he did.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if Ezekiel Elliott will ever
Speaker 1: get to fully clear his name, you know. And he
Speaker 1: could keep fighting, he could keep fighting, he could keep fighting,
Speaker 1: but he won't have his day in court like like
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis did. It's the court of the NFL, which
Speaker 1: is absolutely wrong. That's the problem I have because to me,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, well, why are you trying to clear your name?
Speaker 1: You you weren't criminally charged with anything, but the NFL
Speaker 1: says he was. The NFL it's almost as potent. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And to me, the legal system charging you to me, yes,
Speaker 1: your money, Yeah. I just I have this huge problem
Speaker 1: with the NFL stepping in and taking my three hours
Speaker 1: a week and making it something about a court case.
Speaker 1: I just can't. I can't get over the fact I
Speaker 1: don't think he's ever going to get clear his name.
Speaker 1: I really don't. Well, he's certainly never going to get
Speaker 1: this season back. I mean, this season's been so up
Speaker 1: and down for him. Am I wrong about this? The
Speaker 1: only way it'll get cleared is if this case, the
Speaker 1: lawsuit they filed, goes all the way to be heard,
Speaker 1: right and they say how high does that go? Well,
Speaker 1: it to whoever's it would be this court that it's
Speaker 1: in right now, because that's where they filed the lawsuit in.
Speaker 1: But what the NFL's doing is trying to prevent that
Speaker 1: lawsuit from being heard. The fairness, It's like, what did
Speaker 1: I tell the guys this morning? It's like the you
Speaker 1: know the road spikes they throw down stop a speeding
Speaker 1: car that's chasing. Yeah, well that's what the NFL's doing
Speaker 1: right now. They're throwing down legal road spikes. Yeah. A
Speaker 1: lot of this has had to do with jurisdiction and right,
Speaker 1: not the fairness, this whole fundamental fairness. And they're trying
Speaker 1: to protect the Commissioner's office and what they can do.
Speaker 1: But I just don't believe in my heart that Ezekiel
Speaker 1: Elliot will ever have his name cleared. I really don't,
Speaker 1: not as long as the NFL's involved. Well, and it's
Speaker 1: a shame. That's shame they've tagged him. The state of Ohio,
Speaker 1: the Great State of Ohio has not tagged him that,
Speaker 1: you know, and not to say that, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's the it's Ohio, it's Texas, it's whoever. You know,
Speaker 1: we're not hearing about his the bestic violence stuff. We're
Speaker 1: hearing about trying to you know, what's right, fundamentally right,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, all that stuff. That's that's the issue.
Speaker 1: But he is not going to clear his name, not
Speaker 1: as long as the NFL is involved. Well, this has
Speaker 1: affected this team, whether people want to think it or not.
Speaker 1: Not necessarily in meetings, not the xs and os, but
Speaker 1: this team carried four backs going into this season due
Speaker 1: to the fact that they knew this could possibly come
Speaker 1: down throughout the season. It has. You know, it came
Speaker 1: down the first week when we were sitting there Friday
Speaker 1: afternoon and the first tr was granted. And so now
Speaker 1: you're you're affected because is it Darren McFadden out this week?
Speaker 1: You know Mickey's theory of fresh legs and having to
Speaker 1: keep him that took someone else's spot. Sure, there's guys
Speaker 1: you know, by keeping, as you said, as many backs
Speaker 1: as you have, a guy like Mark Nazacha just for example.
Speaker 1: I mean, that could have been a guy that could
Speaker 1: help you on special teams at a different spot that
Speaker 1: they're going heavy, just for insurance purposes. What your running back?
Speaker 1: Would you have cut? That's a great question, Mickey. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, no, you're right. If you if you talked
Speaker 1: about the one that outplayed the other one, it would
Speaker 1: have been worse outplayed Mcwill. They weren't going to cut MC.
Speaker 1: But you asked me the question. Yeah, I know, I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to give you an answer. Yeah, Rod
Speaker 1: Smith made this team. Yeah, like not just as a runner. Yeah,
Speaker 1: team guy might have been a situation you might have
Speaker 1: to cut the fullback, Jabe Smith. You know, Keith Smith
Speaker 1: might have been the guy. What is his role? What
Speaker 1: do you guys think he's been proved? I would get
Speaker 1: ready for I'd get ready for a more role of
Speaker 1: Keith Smith. You would I think, I think I think
Speaker 1: they're I think they're gonna try. We saw a little
Speaker 1: bit in the Green Bay game. What happened in the
Speaker 1: second half, the fourth quarter of that game. They inserted
Speaker 1: Keith Smith. They ran a crack toss. The thing went
Speaker 1: for twenty five yards. Now all of a sudden, it's like,
Speaker 1: WHOA got a little traction here? Boom, run again, keep moving,
Speaker 1: keep moving. I think you're gonna see more Keith Smith,
Speaker 1: I really really do. Wouldn't you rather see the fullback
Speaker 1: end there than two tight ends? Is the two tight
Speaker 1: end thing? Hasn't if? If the two if, if James
Speaker 1: Hannah doesn't block as well as he needs to block,
Speaker 1: put Keith Smith in there and let it go. And
Speaker 1: you know Jason Witt and Golden Jacket Wit, he does
Speaker 1: the best he can too. I mean he's had his
Speaker 1: issues there as well. I mean he's it's a shame
Speaker 1: because you know, we know Witton catching the football being
Speaker 1: down the field. He's become a good blocker late in
Speaker 1: his career. Usually guys go the other way. They'd be said, well,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna block him. Yeah, but Witten says, you
Speaker 1: know what if I'm not gonna catch passes. But there's
Speaker 1: been some tough assignments they've asked him to do. And
Speaker 1: like I say, there's been some balls that should have
Speaker 1: been maybe outside that he had the blocker pin to
Speaker 1: the inside and all of a sudden, he goes inside.
Speaker 1: Now he's looking bad that way. Yeah, so it's not told.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Mickey's right. If you're gonna play twelve personnel
Speaker 1: and not be effective at it, give me the twenty
Speaker 1: one personnel and let me go to battle that way.
Speaker 1: Because they're not fooling anybody. You know, when he used
Speaker 1: two tight ends, it's not like, Okay, we're saddling it
Speaker 1: up and run right. You got to slip one of
Speaker 1: those guys out there and throw a pass to him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that doesn't seem to be happening. Well, they need
Speaker 1: to get they need to get Smith involved. Throwing him
Speaker 1: in the football too. And we saw that what happened
Speaker 1: on the third down play. They threw him the ball
Speaker 1: in the flat. So if you're gonna put him in
Speaker 1: the game, and he's a good little receiver, not little,
Speaker 1: but he's a good receiver. That's a lot of trust
Speaker 1: and former linebacker, you know, and they have trust in him.
Speaker 1: They trust a great hand. They trust a lot of
Speaker 1: players here. Yeah, they trust a lot. They trust a
Speaker 1: lot of these guys are gonna make plays. They trust,
Speaker 1: you know, the Kyle Wilber's and the Damien Wilsons, and
Speaker 1: they trust a lot of guys. You know, it's until
Speaker 1: you start not making plays. And that's why I was
Speaker 1: talking about a Woozier or actually Taco Hey, you keep
Speaker 1: making plays, give them reasons to play you if you're
Speaker 1: going to keep making plays. And that's what these guys
Speaker 1: are trying to do. Yeah. Absolutely, Yeah, can actually one
Speaker 1: final thing please do if Mickey Elemily ask you this question,
Speaker 1: because and Rob you, everybody can ask an answer this question.
Speaker 1: If they offer him a settlement and the NFL comes
Speaker 1: out to say we will drop the domestic violence uh tag,
Speaker 1: apologize for that, drop that tag and say you suspend
Speaker 1: him a game or two would if you were Ezekiel Elliott,
Speaker 1: would you settle that to get that behind you? Depends
Speaker 1: on how they phrase it, if they if they fall
Speaker 1: an apology from the commissioner of the National Football League.
Speaker 1: But he shouldn't be then in that situation, I don't
Speaker 1: think he should be suspended at all because everything, all
Speaker 1: their findings and what you know, you're in August eleven,
Speaker 1: everything had to center back to those allegations. Right, Am
Speaker 1: I wrong about that? Or was there anything else cumulative?
Speaker 1: They didn't talk about the Saint Patty's Day thing, right,
Speaker 1: It was all about allegations that he's denied the three
Speaker 1: incidents that they kept bringing up. Yeah, yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's ever gonna get it. Is it worth
Speaker 1: it to you, Mickey to get your name cleared from
Speaker 1: the league because you, like we just talked about, does
Speaker 1: the one game suspension still get rid of my base
Speaker 1: salary guarantees for the next two years because suspension? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's a good point. That's good that you were
Speaker 1: talking about money earlier. That's a lot of money. See,
Speaker 1: but you do get your name cleared, you do get
Speaker 1: what you what you're you're you're already spending. Then why
Speaker 1: are you suspending If I'm the PA, I'm saying, well,
Speaker 1: why are you suspending him at all? Then? If I'm
Speaker 1: not suspending for that because it just general Prince, I
Speaker 1: just yeah, I don't like the way you act, but
Speaker 1: it's just a lot of guys that get suspended for that.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this question. I say this, I
Speaker 1: think I think it's in the union's mind. It's like,
Speaker 1: I'm not speaking for the union. What I'm saying. It's
Speaker 1: got to be all or nothing. Right, clear your name
Speaker 1: means I did nothing wrong. This suspension is invalid. It
Speaker 1: shouldn't happen period. Not middle ground does. And what they're
Speaker 1: trying to say is they're suspending them for personal conduct.
Speaker 1: Yes there, but it's veiled. Well okay, what if okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: what if it does turn into Saint Patty's Day and
Speaker 1: various other things that we found out. I don't go
Speaker 1: ahead and look at everybody. I don't think that. I
Speaker 1: think yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just it's frustrating. Then that's
Speaker 1: how it is. It's that the only way you're gonna
Speaker 1: get your name cleared. Though, Mickey, I think if this
Speaker 1: thing goes to the lawsuit and you win the lawsuit,
Speaker 1: I think you will get your name cleared because you
Speaker 1: can always say I didn't get victed as was charged,
Speaker 1: was charge, wasn't charged in the LEAs And this was
Speaker 1: a unfair process that I went through in the NFL.
Speaker 1: And I think no one sits there and goes well,
Speaker 1: some people will because I'll give you an example. Had
Speaker 1: a good friend ran a restaurant. One of the writers
Speaker 1: accused him of rape. Three inch headline front page of
Speaker 1: our newspaper. He's in there he owns a restaurant. A
Speaker 1: week later found out that she was jealous that he
Speaker 1: was dating somebody else and kind of made it up.
Speaker 1: Metro section, third page about a twelve inch headline, Oh
Speaker 1: no charges being filed? You think everybody's which headline? Do
Speaker 1: you think everybody saw? And in people's mind, you did it?
Speaker 1: You did it? Yeah, you can't. You can't put that
Speaker 1: thing back in the in the bag, you know. And
Speaker 1: so you know, I think this will follow him some.
Speaker 1: There'll be people out there. I mean you see the tweets, right,
Speaker 1: there's people that you know, oh, you know, what are
Speaker 1: you sticking up for this guy for? Yeah? You know
Speaker 1: if he went on though and it had let's just say, okay,
Speaker 1: So he plays eleven more games and he has a
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl season again and he is back to rookie
Speaker 1: Zeke and he's lightening it up and he's carrying this team.
Speaker 1: Him and Dak are back doing the two one four?
Speaker 1: Does that help in fans eyes? Some people will never change.
Speaker 1: People don't change their minds. There. Yeah, they're they're they're
Speaker 1: walking away from this game because of some social issues.
Speaker 1: People that love the NFL are no longer watching the NFL. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, as far as zeke, people will have
Speaker 1: their right. You win, and people suddenly things get a
Speaker 1: little bit forgotten. Yeah. Yeah, And the no no charge
Speaker 1: has ever filed helps. I think, Brian, you alluded to
Speaker 1: Kobe as a as an example a while back, and
Speaker 1: those are those are different sets of charges off the
Speaker 1: field type stuff that Kobe was acquitted or wasn't charged
Speaker 1: infidelity yet. Yeah, but it's still I'm sure there's a
Speaker 1: segment of the population that still associates that with him,
Speaker 1: allegedly or whatever. Uh, Like Mickey said, I don't I
Speaker 1: don't know if it ever ever, he goes away one
Speaker 1: hundred percent go away from him, and that's unfortunate, you know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is unfortunate. And he will be playing this week.
Speaker 1: He you know, he talked about Okay, I'm here to
Speaker 1: play this week. Yeah, I'm here to play next week,
Speaker 1: and then from then on we'll see, we'll see, we'll see.
Speaker 1: But this week, I think, you know, it's a good
Speaker 1: it's a good opportunity for him. You know, you guys
Speaker 1: are talking about how the defense, defensive line for the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers is one of their struggling points. So
Speaker 1: ezek Elliett can go up there and have himself a day.
Speaker 1: He was outstanding in the game last year. I hope
Speaker 1: you guys are sitting in the press box he plays
Speaker 1: the same way he played last year in that football game.
Speaker 1: If he does, Dallas will win this. He average like
Speaker 1: six something yards, Like I told you first and twenty,
Speaker 1: they flip him a screen and he and he just
Speaker 1: by balance and desire gets nineteen yards. You know, that's
Speaker 1: what you need. That's what you need from ezekiel La.
Speaker 1: You know you said it. If he could play to
Speaker 1: a point where all of a sudden, it's he's able
Speaker 1: to put some of these things. Rob said it though, too.
Speaker 1: He's got to be exhausted. He's got to be exhausted
Speaker 1: about what's going on every single day. Oh we all
Speaker 1: are we all? Yeah? If we are, can you imagine?
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying play. The sanctuary they used to
Speaker 1: have was that football field. Yeah, that's and that's where
Speaker 1: they need to get back to, the need to get
Speaker 1: back to winning football games. They got eleven straight weeks
Speaker 1: now to figure this out. You had your bye week,
Speaker 1: you know last year was everything was just right on path. Roses,
Speaker 1: Here we go now you're now, you got your now,
Speaker 1: you got your back against the wall. You got a
Speaker 1: team in Philadelphia that's playing pretty well. You know, you
Speaker 1: got to figure it out. You got the Giants or not.
Speaker 1: I mean it's the Redskins aren't a bad team. You
Speaker 1: better figure things out real quick or the season is
Speaker 1: going to be more, or the season is gonna be
Speaker 1: more than Ezekiel Eliot's off the field. And there is
Speaker 1: opportunity because you look around the NFC and and there's
Speaker 1: nobody running away with this thing. Philly's got a two
Speaker 1: game lead on the division. That's they're off to a
Speaker 1: great start. There's still a lot of division games left,
Speaker 1: but a Green Bay team that loses Rogers, we'll see
Speaker 1: what happens there. But there's opportunity to go get a
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Speaker 1: of those times and you guys come back off one
Speaker 1: of those road trips you get in at four in
Speaker 1: the morning next week, is it Washington Sunday? No, you
Speaker 1: will get back at Ford. And then where are you
Speaker 1: back at midnight? Don't you this trip? I don't know.
Speaker 1: Better be a little deeper into the night than that one.
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Speaker 1: It won't finish till six thirty two hours of you
Speaker 1: hammering on the Smith typewriter. The time we leave the stadium,
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Speaker 1: had to send your story in? Yeah, like on that
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Speaker 1: I couldn't send it in they had no email, but
Speaker 1: have to plug in? Didn't yet we had a it
Speaker 1: was a called a teleram. Yeah, it was the forerunner
Speaker 1: to a fax machine. There you go. So there was
Speaker 1: a teleram where you were right, there was a telegram
Speaker 1: in the office and you had to put your page
Speaker 1: in there and the thing spun over the phone line.
Speaker 1: There you go, and they it coordinated with the page
Speaker 1: back in the office been up at the same time
Speaker 1: and awful. Oh you've never seen the thing bust and
Speaker 1: you had to do it over my over Did you
Speaker 1: just want to fight people at that time, Mickey? Did
Speaker 1: you just get mad? They used a lot. No, because
Speaker 1: what they did in the press box, they would have
Speaker 1: service that would do this for you, so you'd pay
Speaker 1: twenty bucks and say, here's my copy, send it, send it.
Speaker 1: But well sometimes you had to carry those things with you,
Speaker 1: your your own Yes, before they figured hey we could
Speaker 1: make money doing this. Yeah, that's sending stuff. You said,
Speaker 1: projectors over there. Hey today, thank you. I kept looking
Speaker 1: for the poll and I couldn't find it. Well, but
Speaker 1: it's not that far. When did you put it? What
Speaker 1: did you put it up? Is eighteen hours ago. That's
Speaker 1: why then I didn't go down that far. We'll appreciate that. Mick,
Speaker 1: appreciate your tweets on the old target was all about
Speaker 1: it was all about Zeke Yeah, who's that? Yeah? Who's that?
Speaker 1: Eel Elliott? All Right, we're gonna talk forty nine ers
Speaker 1: with this pole. Biggest concern in Sunday's matchup. We mentioned
Speaker 1: a few of these guys already. Carlos Hide, Yeah, Solomon Thomas,
Speaker 1: Pierre Garson, Jared goof or starting quarterback, new starting quarterback,
Speaker 1: Ceja Bethard. Who concerns you most in this man? I
Speaker 1: think recent history would tell me car Carlos Hide. By
Speaker 1: recent history, you mean the horrifying image. Visit Aaron Jones
Speaker 1: just having a day setting, would you would? I think
Speaker 1: people would recognize that Garson from his days in Washington
Speaker 1: would be a guy that like, oh my god, they
Speaker 1: throw them the ball. He runs for twenty eight years.
Speaker 1: He was out yesterday. Not injury related. Maybe veteran rest.
Speaker 1: When old man, the old man, old man rest, They've
Speaker 1: rested all their veterans. I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go.
Speaker 1: You went with Hide, I'm with Hide. I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: with I would say Hide too, Although you know a
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback who's got some momentum. You don't have any
Speaker 1: film on him really that you know, short week, not
Speaker 1: a short week, but still you haven't seen a whole
Speaker 1: lot of him. We had a lot. The fans say,
Speaker 1: Carlos hide fifty eight percent, and that's directly correlated, I
Speaker 1: think to the run defense the last couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: as you said, days horrifying the voice of the fans here.
Speaker 1: That is so far not true. I am you, You
Speaker 1: are Mickey, and I are not. So Okay, where was
Speaker 1: my guy? Where was Where was Pierre? Uh? He was?
Speaker 1: He was last? He didn't show up? Okay, come on,
Speaker 1: they have no percent? Second place, twenty percent? Okay, Hey,
Speaker 1: you guys were talking about Mark Zach You know he's
Speaker 1: on the forty nine, yes this week? Yeah, giving him
Speaker 1: all there and giving him all those secrets. Yeah, haven't
Speaker 1: have you got that Twitter question yet? I don't think
Speaker 1: people even know he was there. I don't think so.
Speaker 1: They probably they do it now. Well, it happened like
Speaker 1: the dead of the night. It was. I think you
Speaker 1: guys are on the plane coming back from Denver. It
Speaker 1: was it was. It happened dead period. Yeah, you guys,
Speaker 1: was like a Friday or Saturday. You know what it was.
Speaker 1: It was Arizona. Yeah, you guys are Sunday Sunday. Yeah, there,
Speaker 1: that's right. A lot of it happened Saturday. Yes, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: he got buried. Yeah, I was the only one here, Mark,
Speaker 1: don't go stop. Is he playing? I probably? I haven't
Speaker 1: seen him. I haven't seen him. One hasn't been active yet.
Speaker 1: I haven't know he Maybe he might be, but I
Speaker 1: haven't seen him jump in there. I need to watch
Speaker 1: a little specially to where he's on the depth chart. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he's back to the back, to the back,
Speaker 1: So stop that Carlos hide guy, he's behind stop him.
Speaker 1: He's behind Foster Ray Ray. And then it's yeah yeah man.
Speaker 1: Pr Garson though, do you worry you a little bit? Though? Okay,
Speaker 1: good player in Washington. Let's talk about rookie quarterbacks. Though.
Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about rookie quarterbacks. There kind
Speaker 1: of the unknown, Tay, I don't know because I'm looking
Speaker 1: at Deshaun Watson and uh yeah, I know what you're saying.
Speaker 1: For this particular, this guy had a lot of jack
Speaker 1: last year. He had a lot of snaps at Iowa.
Speaker 1: He had a dack. What stands out to me about him,
Speaker 1: and I think his coach said moment wasn't too big
Speaker 1: for him last week, and it reminded me of Dak
Speaker 1: because Dak had like thirty three something starts in college.
Speaker 1: This kid, twenty eight starts at Iowa for basically a
Speaker 1: four year starter. So yep, he played a lot of football,
Speaker 1: and he wasn't intimidated by the situation last week. You know,
Speaker 1: when I and I was watching the game kind of
Speaker 1: with one eye. I was watching I guess two at
Speaker 1: the same time, or baseball, But I didn't see him.
Speaker 1: You know how rookie quarterbacks get back there and you
Speaker 1: see him, they get happy feet panic, and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden they're running out the back. And I didn't
Speaker 1: see that. No, No, I saw a little bit from
Speaker 1: Turbisky the first time, right. Oh yeah. But but this
Speaker 1: guy seemed like he was in the pocket, like he
Speaker 1: was in control. If you watch Iowa football, he took
Speaker 1: a ton of hits. I mean he'd stand there and
Speaker 1: get hit and get hit and then get back up.
Speaker 1: It's awful. No, I mean he but he's a tough guy.
Speaker 1: You know his grandfather. I knew his grandfather well, But
Speaker 1: Bobby Bethor general manager Chargers Redskins. I mean he was
Speaker 1: great and really brother was yea. His uncle is a scout.
Speaker 1: Guess what you guys know that song Boys of Fall
Speaker 1: by Kenny Chesney. His dad wrote that song No Way
Speaker 1: So where? Yeah? Interesting? Yeah. So to me, this is
Speaker 1: one of those things where you have to I think
Speaker 1: you'd have to be a little nervous, especially if you
Speaker 1: if you guys are right about running the football, Yeah
Speaker 1: they run it. Yeah, if it's not all on his shoulders. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you get ready for everybody standing up in the press
Speaker 1: box and like hang onto your rear bit you know
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff that's fun. Yeah, Hey, we've been
Speaker 1: there though, we have hang on. It happens in the
Speaker 1: in the studio all the time. Nake gets so mad
Speaker 1: at me. I just yell at the screen, what do
Speaker 1: we know? What are we doing? You know? One of
Speaker 1: those things. Who do you think is more excited about
Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback DeMarcus Lawrence or Shun Lee. That's a
Speaker 1: good question because you know, I think especially one that
Speaker 1: doesn't move like Mickey was talking about. That's what I'm
Speaker 1: trying to think here, like right now, like where could
Speaker 1: you kind of like let me take advantage of the
Speaker 1: fact that he is. Yeah, let me see this though,
Speaker 1: try to Marinelli. Yeah, Trent Brown, who's the tackle, the
Speaker 1: right tackle for the forty nine ers. Yeah, this is
Speaker 1: a slow footed guy. I mean this could be but
Speaker 1: run the football. You protect him. But if it turns
Speaker 1: into you have to throw to throw to throw, get
Speaker 1: ready for Trent Brown, seventy seven. Maybe getting some holding
Speaker 1: calls against that guy. I'll have three sacks. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: gotta get him in third and eight, third nine, law,
Speaker 1: that's right. I think still leading the league. Yes, still
Speaker 1: got the belt. Throw a by too. He's gonna go
Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl. Somebody's got to do something to
Speaker 1: get the belt from because no one else has earned
Speaker 1: a belt. That's a good point. Sean Lee might get
Speaker 1: the belt this week. Let's hope Anthony Hitchins. Go get
Speaker 1: you that belt. No, you're you're not wrong about that.
Speaker 1: The belt only on the defensive side. It's player of
Speaker 1: the week I think for the entire team. So get
Speaker 1: you that. Yeah, go get you that belt. Des Bryant
Speaker 1: is a is the guy that I think might have
Speaker 1: a big game this week. I didn't play a matchup,
Speaker 1: got an interesting matchup with Rashad Robertson from I know
Speaker 1: LSU cornerback. You no, no, this guy, this guy was
Speaker 1: off the field problem guy. He should have been drafted.
Speaker 1: He should have been much higher than where he was picked. Like,
Speaker 1: he's a beast. He could play. You'd like to have
Speaker 1: him on your team even with all the off the
Speaker 1: field problems that he had. He can. I mean, he
Speaker 1: can play. And that's the thing, is the length to
Speaker 1: reach and all that. I mean, he's gonna match up
Speaker 1: with Dez. It's gonna be difficult because he'll make Dez
Speaker 1: have to deal with some fifty fifty balls. You know,
Speaker 1: I gus with safeties, Eric Reed, gi me, I'll you
Speaker 1: guys like Central DBU. I will see Amo claimed that
Speaker 1: didn't he Well, they had a lot for Bill's white. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they've got they got other ones. They've got some guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so Iron Matthew, Yeah, a for Peterson Aderson want us
Speaker 1: to keep going, Guys, you know, I was just realizing
Speaker 1: it has had the best Missouri doesn't and that North
Speaker 1: that I can't even get your school out here. You
Speaker 1: go ahead. I'm sorry, New Mexico. Yeah, I was trying
Speaker 1: to say New Mexico and I just fumbled it badly
Speaker 1: about seven. Hey, we got er lacker in the conversation.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Byron Bell. We might be on the starting offense.
Speaker 1: He swing tackle as a street named after. I want
Speaker 1: you to get an interview pregame with Byron Bell. I
Speaker 1: want you to go out there and get a pregame
Speaker 1: interview gladly like he's the coolest guy, great guy and
Speaker 1: a new Mexico US so miss Missouri guys are on
Speaker 1: the team anymore. Actually, gash Car, you know he got
Speaker 1: signed by this week. Who do you get signed by
Speaker 1: the Panthers? Really? Yeah? And I'm assuming it's because Keithley.
Speaker 1: You know that you're uncertain of his status. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: been banged up a lot too. Yeah, but Gascar back
Speaker 1: fighting Tiger. He's out there still doing it. Yep, he's
Speaker 1: doing it. You know. He's having the best season so
Speaker 1: far though, and for different reasons. I mean, Adrian Peterson
Speaker 1: got traded last week, but now he gets two free
Speaker 1: trips to London because he obviously went there with the Saints.
Speaker 1: He's there. Oh wow, with the cardinal that is a
Speaker 1: good point. At least, you know he's got a passport. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I love the London folks. Is that nice? I wish
Speaker 1: you could have gone on that trip of the Stack.
Speaker 1: I do too. You know the one year that they
Speaker 1: were like, okay, the maybe we get a beat falls
Speaker 1: in the NFC East at third right or where where
Speaker 1: the Rams fell right, and it was the Giants one game.
Speaker 1: I think that's how it works. They did that a
Speaker 1: few years because Jacksonville's going every year. They're going every year,
Speaker 1: so we gotta get jackson See. What's surprising is they
Speaker 1: took a divisional game over there. They took the Arizona
Speaker 1: Cardinal ram game over there that they usually don't take
Speaker 1: a division I hope I'm stupid about that, but it's
Speaker 1: unusual for them to take a Who did the Lions play?
Speaker 1: They played out there? The Dolphins? Yes, no, well the
Speaker 1: Saints played the Saint who played somebody says played Jack's Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: I don't catch a kiddingy. My apologies. My apologies all
Speaker 1: are UK fans Ravens, because that day I started the
Speaker 1: Ravens defense on my fantasy team. Negative four points. That's right,
Speaker 1: the Ravens were. That's what Blake Bortles just lit them up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: bb Man Blake portals. Yeah, talk about that. We're gonna
Speaker 1: see some Blake Bortles draft. Did it here at and
Speaker 1: T Stadium? Yeah, come in April. So it's pretty funny.
Speaker 1: Drew Pearson just took to Twitter and now everyone's rallying
Speaker 1: for him to do all the Cowboys picks. Oh to
Speaker 1: announce him. Yeah, he needs a strong presence at the
Speaker 1: draft next year. No question. If you were the Eagles
Speaker 1: right now and you saw what Drew Pearson was able
Speaker 1: to do to rally up your guys and get it
Speaker 1: so crazy, who would you choose? Is there one player
Speaker 1: to get out there and make some picks and get
Speaker 1: the Cowboys fans all riled up? The Eagles they would
Speaker 1: need to continue doing what they're doing because they would
Speaker 1: have nothing to brag about. I'm trying to think, what
Speaker 1: don't they going to brag about? That vision old champion
Speaker 1: who is probably one of the more hated like Ron Jaworski,
Speaker 1: would he make you mad? Old school cornabt McNabb. Don
Speaker 1: McNabb might be one boy. He had great success against
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. He's a nice guy. Though. Can't we still
Speaker 1: have Gene from Philadelphia on the line because he might
Speaker 1: be able to tell us. She Yeah, Jean is here, Geane.
Speaker 1: Who do you think the Eagles player would be that
Speaker 1: would get Cowboys fans all riled up at the draft? Oh? Boy,
Speaker 1: do they really have anybody? And you live in Philly,
Speaker 1: that's yeah. So I live in the Eagles country and
Speaker 1: my dad and my brothers a Giant season ticket holders. Wow.
Speaker 1: So um, I'm obviously a Cowboys fan and so you know,
Speaker 1: it's kind of tough living around here. Yeah. I did
Speaker 1: want to weigh in on the Zeke thing because they
Speaker 1: keep telling me, you know, Zeke is a domestic abuser,
Speaker 1: you know, every time I talk about him. So I
Speaker 1: say that if Zeke is innocent, taking an nfd NFL
Speaker 1: deal will have his detractors, especially opponent fans, convinced that
Speaker 1: he was guilty and he took a deal because he
Speaker 1: was guilty, and it won't clear his name. And I
Speaker 1: also believe that if he does go through the process
Speaker 1: and he does clear his name, that perhaps he should
Speaker 1: think about suing good Dell in civil court for defamation
Speaker 1: a character to keep Dell in check for ruining a
Speaker 1: man's reputation without due process. Well, cre we go, James
Speaker 1: Drop of the heat. I like it. I think he
Speaker 1: was going to sue the Tiffany Thompson, you know, that's
Speaker 1: who I thought he would see sue. Excuse me, because
Speaker 1: she's gonna file for a civil suit. Yeah, if if
Speaker 1: this thing sticks. See I just again, guys, I just
Speaker 1: and I appreciate the call, I really really do. And
Speaker 1: she makes good points. I just feel like that he's
Speaker 1: never going to get to fully clear his name. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I really don't. That's what I worry about. You know,
Speaker 1: whether you want to say he's he did this, that
Speaker 1: or the other. I just don't think the fact that
Speaker 1: the NFL is the judge and jury here, I just don't. See.
Speaker 1: They've bought so many of these these hearings cases whatever
Speaker 1: you want to. Every time that they've played, every time
Speaker 1: that they've played legal system people, they've failed. Okay, question
Speaker 1: and this might be a stretch to just bear with me.
Speaker 1: When you think of Adrian Peterson, do you think of
Speaker 1: it and child abuser? I still think that I personally don't.
Speaker 1: I don't either. Michael Vick see now see see but
Speaker 1: see Michael convict he now the court of law. Adrian
Speaker 1: Peterson he served time. Michael Vick served time. Now Adrian Peterson,
Speaker 1: you know that's that's something different, because well, I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's different, because again you've got you had photographs,
Speaker 1: you know, and then in Zeke you know, but were
Speaker 1: his photographs when would it? You know, there's all these
Speaker 1: questions that and I'm not trying to defend Zeke. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying though that you know, when you think of
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson, I tend to don't feel that way. I don't,
Speaker 1: you know. But again, it's it's about court. It is
Speaker 1: it's about it's about the United States court system and
Speaker 1: when the United States court system tries you. That's why
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis I keep saying his name, he Jordan Lewis,
Speaker 1: cleared his name, he Jordan Lewis. If anybody ever says
Speaker 1: to Jordan Lewis, oh you're a domestic violence no I'm not. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I went to court in front of my peers and
Speaker 1: got my name clear. So don't you call me that,
Speaker 1: you know. And And and I don't think that Zeke
Speaker 1: Mickey's talking about another case. I don't think Zeke will
Speaker 1: ever have that opportunity. I don't think he'll ever get
Speaker 1: never get there. I don't think you'll ever be like
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis and get the clearest name fully. I got
Speaker 1: the eagle guy for you. Wilbert Montgomery, how about Dick
Speaker 1: for meal? Like that? What year is that? You make
Speaker 1: you mad? Dick for me? Okay? He was the running
Speaker 1: back then. Oh yeah, he is probably the most divisive guy.
Speaker 1: But he's also a cowboy. So how about Bill Burgee linebacker?
Speaker 1: How about Mark Sanchez, John Spagnola, John tight End, Yeah,
Speaker 1: not your dad. Funny story. You only got one minute.
Speaker 1: I can do it in a minute. He was having
Speaker 1: a big first half against the Cowboys in the sports
Speaker 1: edator from the Times Herald was at the game and
Speaker 1: he goes, Okay, here's what we're gonna do. You do
Speaker 1: a side buyer on him. We're gonna get your name
Speaker 1: in the buyeline and in the headline. And then the
Speaker 1: Cowboys came back and won and it didn't didn't matter.
Speaker 1: I didn't get to write it. I would have been
Speaker 1: in the headline. Oh that would have been beautiful. It
Speaker 1: would have been synergy, it would have been great. Well, guys,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a lot to talk about with inactives
Speaker 1: tomorrow when we guess them and pick some predictions for
Speaker 1: the game. So join us then tomorrow at eleven thirty.
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