1 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: What's that at the bed. It's spooky, joky. I'm pretty 2 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait a minute, help, 3 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: I'm ghosted. I'm nandaz Pllease hey boo, It's me Rose 4 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: and welcome to Ghosted by Raz Hernandez, the podcast where 5 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 1: I talk to people that I like about the paranormal 6 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 1: I have on the pod today Tom Sharpling, who has 7 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: been doing the best show for twenty five years. He's 8 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: like one of these people that's been podcasting before there 9 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: was even the name podcasting. He's great. I can talk 10 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: to him about anything, and such a sweet person and 11 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: so funny. Before we get to that, let me read 12 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:10,919 Speaker 1: you a story. This one comes from Bianca. Bianca writes, 13 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: I live in Toronto, Ontario. Ah quit bragging, Bianca, but 14 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: I grew up in Niagara Falls, which is surprisingly rich 15 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: in paranormal activity. I have a few good encounters. But 16 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: I think you might be interested in my Hopkins Tomb story. 17 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: O good. I'm twenty nine now. But when I was 18 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: in elementary school, my friend and I decided to do 19 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: our Historica Bristol board project on Hopkins's tomb. There are 20 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: many stories that circulated about the haunted tomb, but the 21 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: one in this page under the curse section involved a 22 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: distant family member of mine. Okay, Bianca has given me 23 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: a link about this place called Hopkins's Tomb. It looks 24 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: spooky oooooo. In this it talks about a distant family 25 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: member of Bianca who was cursed. He lost his leg 26 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: in a freak motorcycle accident after sticking it in the tomb. 27 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: He stuck his leg in the tomb, and then he 28 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 1: lost his leg in a motorcycle accident. AnyWho lots of 29 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,119 Speaker 1: eerie deaths and lingering curses from this tomb, okay, I'll 30 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,959 Speaker 1: believe you. In short, the local legend is that if 31 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: you run around the tomb three times, you'll summon the 32 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: supernatural entity. My friend and I went with her mom 33 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: to take some pictures for our project. Her mom was 34 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: in the car. The thick energy surrounding the tomb hangs 35 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: in the air. There's a small fence about knee height 36 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: surrounding the tomb. After taking our photos, we elected to 37 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: run around the tomb twice. After making our second lap, 38 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: we laughed breathlessly and decided to run another halfway around, 39 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: making it almost three times. Very cheeky, but just as 40 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: we kissed that two point five lap finish line, I 41 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: still have chills when I write this. I felt a 42 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: thick gust of wind blow the hair in front of 43 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: my face, and the loudest, deepest inhuman voice yell come 44 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: in side. It felt so low it shook the ground. 45 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: When her mom brought her an eye to my house, 46 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: her mom came in because she was so shaken up. 47 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: She explained to my mom that she was watching us 48 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: do it, and said that she saw the exact moment 49 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: it happened the wind on an otherwise still day, and 50 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: both of our faces went white as we heard the 51 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: exact same thing at the exact same time. We both, 52 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: without consulting one another, ran towards the car, hopping the 53 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: knee height fence, and nearly threw up from fear. We 54 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: naturally grew apart with age as we went through high 55 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: school and beyond, but to this day we will message 56 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: each other every now and then to reflect on this 57 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: experience we had. Yeah, it sounds pretty scary, Bianca, I'm 58 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: glad you didn't get cursed. Ooh, thanks for sending that. 59 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 1: As you're right now, I'm on tour right now, doing 60 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: comedy a gay bars in America. Rosernandez tour dot com 61 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: for all those dates. Okay, here's my conversation with Tom 62 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: Sharpling and with the show. I don't believe it. We've 63 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: got an icon in the world of talking on a microphone, 64 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 1: Tom Sharpling. 65 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 2: Hi, icon. 66 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: But you're not a stand up comedian, no, which you 67 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: should be. You're one of the funniest people that ever exists. 68 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: That's so kind of you to say. But I just 69 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 2: can't do that. I don't have that in me. 70 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: Are you always seated when you're on the microphone? Pretty 71 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: much of sitting and talking on a microphone? Yeah, Now 72 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: that that makes it sound like you're not doing anything 73 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: or something. 74 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 2: Well, I mean I'm not standing. It's not that not 75 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 2: that hard to stand. 76 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: Listen, Tom Sharp. Now I'm talking to the people listening. Okay, 77 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: Just I have to check in to make sure that 78 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 1: they're still listening anyways, because sometimes I just start talking 79 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: and then the numbers go down. 80 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: Numbers never go down. With you, Tom. 81 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: Sharpling, how are you? I'm pretty good. 82 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 2: It is exciting. 83 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: I've been wanting you on here for so long. Yeah, 84 00:05:55,920 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 1: we've had your double threat other half. Yes, what's her 85 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: name again? Klown Julie Kloud's name. 86 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 2: You didn't forget it? 87 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: Of course I love her. She's been on We've wanted 88 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: to have you for forever. It's hard to get you. 89 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 2: Well, now you got me. You tell me what to do. 90 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 2: Now you say jump and I'll say how high. 91 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: We were just talking before we recorded about Liberaci. Yeah, 92 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: did you know that Debbie Gibson got haunted by Liberaci's piano? No, 93 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: these are the kind of things I know. 94 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't know. 95 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: This is what this is what people come to me for. 96 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: So there was an episode of my favorite TV show 97 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: of all time, Celebrity Ghost Stories. Sure, have you ever 98 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: seen that? 99 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 2: I think I've seen it. 100 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: I think it's been on for like ten years. 101 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 2: I think, so, yeah, it's so good. 102 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: Okay, So I can't I can't necessarily remember, but I 103 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: believe she bought Liberaci's like mirrored piano, okay, and like 104 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 1: one time a tile fell off, she was like this, Liberaci. 105 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: I think that's how No, I think I think it 106 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: was a better story than that, but it was basically 107 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: it had something to do with stuff like that. 108 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 2: Okay. I mean I would say, look, I'm not here 109 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 2: to debunk Debbie Gibson's experience. Deborah Gibson, of course, but 110 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 2: if you go by somebody's old piano, eventually things are 111 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 2: gonna start falling off of it. 112 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:20,679 Speaker 1: You're no fun. 113 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 2: No, I am fun. I believe in things like you 114 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: wouldn't even imagine. What do you believe in? 115 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: Ghosts? 116 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 2: Sure? I believe that there's stuff going on. 117 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: You just went to Salem. I did do you do 118 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: anything ghosty? 119 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 2: Oh that's the only thing to do. There's there's literally 120 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 2: nothing there that's not ghosty. 121 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: I have never been there. 122 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 2: You would love it is witches. 123 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: Witches are there. The fact that I have never been 124 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: to Salem does not feel right, but it's true. And 125 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: I am doing this road trip and I'm doing Province 126 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: Sound in Boston. I don't have time, but I wanted 127 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: to try to go to Salem or you are those 128 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: back to back literally back to back. 129 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how you could squeeze that in 130 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 2: not gonna be able to Everybody has said go off season, though, 131 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 2: so when you go to Salem, and it's when not if. 132 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: Don't go in October, that's what they say. 133 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:26,239 Speaker 2: Because that's like going to Times Square on New Year's 134 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 2: Eve where it's just nothing. Everybody's there and it's it's 135 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,239 Speaker 2: like you're living in the movie You'll be Halloween. 136 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: Mm, which one was that again? 137 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 2: I was the Adam Sandler movie filmed in Salem. The 138 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 2: movie hocus Pocus, of course filmed in Salem, and you 139 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 2: think it was Star Wars the way they talk about 140 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 2: it in Salem. They're just like, well, of course this 141 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 2: building you recognize from from hocus Pocus. 142 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: You're not a hocus Pocus. 143 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 2: I could be a fan of the movie hocus Pocus, 144 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 2: but I didn't memorize every location to where I'm gonna 145 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 2: faint if I see it in real life. We did 146 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 2: a tour, a walking tour through, so we did so 147 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 2: many things like that. Fine, there was a kid on 148 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 2: this tour, this teenager, and she was so into hocus 149 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 2: Pocus and could answer any question, and the tour guide 150 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 2: was starting to get a little irked that this kid 151 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,719 Speaker 2: knew so much about hocus Pocus because she was she 152 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 2: would ask a question, she'd be like, so, does anybody 153 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 2: know why hocus Pocus a Halloween movie came out in 154 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 2: the summer and was not released in October, and this 155 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 2: kid started explaining so much about hocus Pocus, and the 156 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 2: tour guide was getting irked and said, that's a great guess. 157 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 2: It was like, well, no, this is not a guess. 158 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 2: This kid was on guessing. This kid knows the facts 159 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 2: about hocus Pocus. And interestingly enough, or not interestingly enough, 160 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 2: the The Nightmare Before Christmas was coming out in October, 161 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 2: and they were both Disney properties. So Disney didn't want 162 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 2: to have two Halloween movies in competition with each other, 163 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 2: and so they moved hocus Pocus to the summer. 164 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,119 Speaker 1: And they both are very memorable. 165 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 2: Yeah. And the other thing that made me a little 166 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 2: sad was they're like, well, then they did hocus Pocus too, 167 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 2: and that did not shoot in Salem. And I have 168 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 2: exciting news. They're making hocus Pocus three and hopefully it'll 169 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 2: shoot in Salem. And it's not gonna shoot scheduling. 170 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: We're hoping. 171 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 2: Man Like they were just like, maybe hocus Pocus is 172 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 2: coming back. I just like they never go back. 173 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: Well, the best scene in hocus Pocus is Gary and 174 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: Penny Marshall. They play husband in life, which is very 175 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: little weird. Yeah, and he's dressed like the devil because 176 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 1: it's Halloween and then for some reason, I guess the Sanders' 177 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: sisters like worship the devil. That's like the one time 178 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 1: we get a glimpse of their devil worship. I guess, 179 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's like we don't we really ever 180 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: talk about it any other time, but it's like he 181 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 1: has devil horns on and they're like master, it's so good. 182 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 2: Though, who has the guts to say, Hey, we were 183 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 2: thinking that you could be married to your brother in 184 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 2: this Like you know your brother, what if you were 185 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 2: married to him in this movie? Like that's the weirdest 186 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 2: thing to ask out loud. Yeah, that would be one. 187 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 2: That's like who's gonna ask exactly? 188 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: What about ghosts? 189 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 2: Though? 190 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: Like for you, is that something like so you say 191 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 1: you think it's possible, have you experienced it? 192 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 2: Not anything that I could really uh dig in on 193 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: and say this proves it to me. I just believe 194 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 2: in energy and there's things swirling around and we don't 195 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 2: have answers for things. 196 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: Aren't you a sleep paralysis person? 197 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, huge, huge sleep paralysis person. 198 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: Do you see things? 199 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 2: I haven't had it happen in a long time, which 200 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:12,839 Speaker 2: I think I'm just jinxing myself now now I'm going. 201 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: To have you know, they say, if you talk about it, 202 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: it makes it happen. 203 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 2: Are you a sleep paralysis person? 204 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: Ross, I've never had sleep paralysis. 205 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 2: Well, the night is young. 206 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: I that is my biggest fear. 207 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:30,239 Speaker 2: It's horrible. 208 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: But you've never seen like an old hag lady crawling 209 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: on top of you or like stuff like that. 210 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 2: Not no, nothing like that. It's you know how people say, oh, 211 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 2: I've had it happen five times to me. I've had 212 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 2: it happen eight times. I've had it happen over a 213 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 2: hundred times to me. Wow, easily it would happen to 214 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 2: me all the time. 215 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: To a point where now when it happens, you're like, Okay, 216 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: I know what this is. It is fine. 217 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it hasn't happened in years of whatever happened in 218 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 2: my life where I made changes, it it stopped, and 219 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 2: I just I don't want it to come back. But 220 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 2: it's the worst thing you take, and like you took 221 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 2: a like if you dozed off in the middle of 222 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 2: the day, then suddenly you're in your body. You know 223 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 2: you're awake, but you're not awake, and you're screaming like 224 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 2: screaming to wake up, like I need to get myself 225 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 2: out of this state. And you're absolutely doing everything you can, 226 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 2: and then the person who just sees you in real 227 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 2: life just you're just going eh. But in your mind 228 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 2: you're screaming at the top of your lungs and shaking 229 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 2: and trying to just wake up. It's the worst. 230 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: That's a nightmare. 231 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 2: That's I mean, literally, it's the worst. 232 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: I did some research, not about sleep paralysis at all. 233 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: I did some research about your home state of New Jersey. Yeah, 234 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: urban legends, a. 235 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 2: Lot of them. 236 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: I love a good urban legends. Do any come to 237 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: mind for you of New Jersey? 238 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 2: Well, I mean the big one is the Jersey Devil. 239 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: That's right, not to be confused with Gary Marshall, who's 240 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: the Salem Devil. Yes, tell me about the Jersey Devil, 241 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: because that's not one that I did research on. But 242 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, she's that girl. 243 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 2: I believe, and I'm not as up to speed as 244 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 2: I probably should be on the Jersey Devil. Jersey Devil's 245 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 2: down in the Pine barrens, which is at the bottom 246 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 2: of the state, just like this giant, huge wooded area 247 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 2: that time. Famously, there's an episode of the Sopranos that 248 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 2: takes place in the pine barrens where they go to. 249 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: It's the Jersey Devil in that. 250 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 2: Kill a guy. Now, the Jersey Devil's not in it, 251 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 2: but the pine barrens are terrifying because it's just vast woods. 252 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: What about Jersey Mike? 253 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 2: Jersey Mike is he's my Jersey devil. He's probably my 254 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 2: Jersey Angel actually. 255 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: But what is it? Jersey Devil is like some kind 256 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: of it's a cryptid. What does it look like? I 257 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: need to look this up. 258 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 2: I think he's like a good old fashioned. 259 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: Oh okay, so like bat wings uh huh, and like 260 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: maybe walks on two legs as well. 261 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 2: I think so, yeah, okay, almost like. 262 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: A mothman, but not quite a mothman. He's like a 263 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: Jersey version of a mothman. Well, what about the pig Lady. 264 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 2: I don't know about the pig Lady. I mean I've 265 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 2: met a few into Jersey. I didn't know there was 266 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 2: just a lady. 267 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: Oh, there's the pig lady. 268 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 2: Well, tell me about the. 269 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: Page's earned the title of the pig Lady. Well, some 270 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: of the research I got is from a website called 271 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: farms dot com. 272 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 2: Okay, farms, yep, is that where we're at on the 273 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 2: show Ron we're hitting up farms dot com for content. 274 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: Yes, this is where we started. Okay, this is what 275 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: we do here. Okay, So it says Roycefield Road, which 276 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:25,359 Speaker 1: is in rural New Jersey, is known to some locals 277 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: as pig Lady Road. The street's unofficial name comes from 278 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: the belief that you can summon a woman with a 279 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: pig's head by chanting pig lady three times during the night. 280 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 2: That would actually scare me. 281 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: It's also how you can summon me on grinder. Okay. 282 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: So Weird New Jersey dot Com or Weird NJ dot 283 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: com is a great website because there is a lot 284 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: of weird stuff in New Jersey. And on their website, 285 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: I mean, it's no farm, but what is and weirdnjay 286 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: dot com there's like testimonials of people that have gone 287 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: to pig Lady Road. 288 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 2: Okay. 289 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: Some of what they say here on this website is 290 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: that she was basically. 291 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 2: Not a looker and her great personality. 292 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: Well, I think that's the problem. She also did not 293 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: live personality, didn't have much going for her, and some 294 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: say that she had the face of a pig put 295 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: on her by her father. Here it says, have you 296 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: ever heard of the pig lady? This is all I know. 297 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: This is from someone named John R. A husband came 298 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: home from work and decapitated his wife. Oh my god. 299 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: When the police got there, they never found her missing head. 300 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: Now you're supposed to go down this road off of 301 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: Royce Field Road in. 302 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 2: Hillsboro, Hillsboro, I know Hillsboro. 303 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: It says Doris Duke's property. 304 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, Doris Duke was the incredibly wealthy heiress who owned 305 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 2: I believe it's the Duke University. 306 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: Is oh really yeah, Well, she's also owns the property 307 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 1: that of pig lady wrote Apparently. 308 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 2: There are acres upon acres of woodland that is like 309 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 2: owned by the Doris Duke in New Jersey that has 310 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 2: been preserved. 311 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: Well, it says if you honk your horn at night, 312 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: her glowing head will appear. That's what people say. Another 313 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 1: person said, this one is from somebody named They're calling 314 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: themselves the Pig Hunter, they said. The story goes that 315 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: in the early nineteen hundreds, when Hillsboro was all farms 316 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: in vast woods, there lived a lady who resembled a 317 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: pig she lived out, so they're just going with the 318 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: story that she was just born looking pig like. She 319 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: lived on a farm, secluded from civilization because as a 320 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: child she was picked on and teased constantly, so she 321 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: vowed never to have to deal with that kind of 322 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: torture ever again. One day, as she was gardening, a 323 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 1: young boy came along with two of his friends and 324 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 1: noticed the pig lady gardening. The boys made jokes about 325 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: her hideous pig face and vowed to go back later 326 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: that night and place a slaughtered pighead on her doorstep. 327 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 1: They went that night and were never heard from again. 328 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: Years later, as Hillsborough grew in population, the missing teenager's 329 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: bones were found where her garden once was. Who legend 330 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: has it that in order for her to come out, 331 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: you must annoy her by flashing your lights, screaming big lady, 332 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: and beeping the horn. Then you must leave someone from 333 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: your group on the street and drive off without looking back. 334 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 1: Absolutely not no way. I know. I would definitely be 335 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: one of the people that stayed in the car. Once 336 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: you get to the end of the road, you turn 337 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: around and go back, and you see what your friend 338 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 1: has witnessed the whole drive from leaving your friend and 339 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: coming back takes ten minutes. Oh my god. 340 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 2: So you leave your friend for ten minutes. 341 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: And then she goes on or whoever this is, the 342 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: pig hunter goes on to say that they did this, 343 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: and they went back to get their friend and they're like, Jen, 344 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: where are you? And she was crying in a bush. 345 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 1: And then when they went to get her and brought 346 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: her back in the car, she was covered with scratches 347 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 1: on her arms, legs and face. No big hoof scratches. 348 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: Oh wait, no, maybe she does human hands, but just 349 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 1: a pig face. I love it. So next time you're 350 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: in Jersey time, Yeah, I got a place for you, 351 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: pig lady road. 352 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 2: Well, I'll say one thing. I'm not the one getting 353 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 2: out of the car. 354 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: No, it's not happening. What's How about the Herbert Appleby House. 355 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: It's haunted by mud slide. 356 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 2: And I don't know about this. I know about Appleby's 357 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 2: in New Jersey. I've been to those, and I think 358 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 2: they probably make mud slides at the bar. 359 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: The Herbert Appleby House. 360 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 2: The bar in Appleby's is its own horror. Have to 361 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 2: hang out there? 362 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: Oh my God, this is one of Middlesex County's most 363 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: haunted pre Civil War homes. 364 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 2: I grew up in Middlesex County. 365 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: You know the Herbert Appleby House. Now, supposedly this is 366 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 1: from tap into dot Net. Supposedly, this nineteenth century residence 367 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: at one six sixty one Main Street, near Spotswood's border, Okay, 368 00:21:56,240 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: converted to the Alice Appleby Devo lib in nineteen forty six. 369 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: Alice Appleby was the daughter of Herbert Appleby. Independent paranormal 370 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: investigator Karen Temper from East Brunswick's New Jersey Ghost Organization. 371 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 2: These towns are all way too close to where I 372 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 2: actually grew up. Ross. I don't like any of this. 373 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 2: I feel lucky I got out alive. The way you're 374 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 2: painting New Jerseys, I was apparently, I was living in 375 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 2: a Everything was haunted around me. 376 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: This person saw a shadow figure who stood up from 377 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: the couch and walked out of the library room. Also, 378 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: a living caretaker claimed he awoke to find the apparition 379 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: of two young girls at his bedside. 380 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 2: I want nothing to do with any of this. 381 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: Okay, I'll give you one more. Here's another New Jersey one, 382 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: the hooker Man. 383 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 2: Well I know those agn pig hunter hooker Man, I 384 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 2: knew about all these are like characters in Bruce Springsteen's side. 385 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: The hooker Man. Oh my god, you ever you know 386 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: Franken Hooker, You've been in your trauma era. I feel like, 387 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: isn't it a trauma movie? 388 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 2: Or I think Franken Hooker is a proper trauma. 389 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 1: It's like it's like it's distributed. Well, this is hooker Man, Okay, 390 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,479 Speaker 1: and hooker Man, it says. This is from Weird New 391 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: Jersey dot com. Again, it says in New Jersey. The 392 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: hooker Man legend is that a railroad worker who lost 393 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: his arm in a train mishap over a century ago. 394 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: Some say that he was a night watchman on the 395 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: Bartley Flanders Spur one night, while signaling the oncoming train 396 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: to stop, he fell and lost consciousness. When he awoke, 397 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: he realized the train had run him over and cut 398 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 1: off his arm. Other stories say that he lost his 399 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 1: arm when he fell off the train. Now I don't 400 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: understand why he's called the hooker Man. Anyway, you have 401 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: a hook, it says, now, fitting with a hook to 402 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: replace his lost hand. The hooker Man's spirit appears on 403 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: the tracks carrying a lantern looking for his lost arm. 404 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 2: Okay, is it a hand or is it an arm? 405 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 2: We got to get this hooker man thing straight. 406 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 1: This is yeah, this is actually, this is This is 407 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: the conversation that needs to be had. There's a person 408 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: on where New Jersey dot Com named Paul tupac Zeuski 409 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: literally spelled like tupac Zeuski. Paul tupac Zuski says, back 410 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: in the nineteen sixties and seventies, the hooker Man's sight 411 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 1: was a big teen attraction. A friend of mine would 412 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: go down to see the lights, and on hot summer 413 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 1: nights there would always be a crowd of fifteen to 414 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 1: thirty teen's. The hooker Man, he said, generally appeared right 415 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,719 Speaker 1: before a train was to pass by. Usually it appeared 416 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: as a yellowish hazy ball that bobbed down the tracks. 417 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: One particular night, however, he became a true believer. As 418 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: a train approached at its ten mile per hour speed 419 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: on this somewhat rickety line, the hooker man light appeared 420 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: about thirty feet down the tracks from where we were standing. 421 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 1: As the train got closer, the light moved down the 422 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: track slowly as well. Just before the train reached the group. 423 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 1: The engineer dimmed his headlight for a second and then 424 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: turned it on again at its highest brightness for about 425 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: a second. In the rays of the bright light, the 426 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:44,199 Speaker 1: group saw a translucent figure of a railroad worker in 427 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: overalls with one arm, and that arm was waving a 428 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: lantern side to side. This man's been holding onto this 429 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 1: story for a long time. Yeah, this is why we 430 00:25:55,760 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: gotta keep baby boomers off the internet. That's pretty much 431 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: the research i'pe done on New Jersey. Can show you 432 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: a haunted eBay doll? Yeah, please, it's time for the 433 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: dolls are living Tom Yeah, I go to eBay dot com, 434 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: I type and haunted doll. This one kind of reminded 435 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: me of you. 436 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 2: Oh, I can't wait to see this. This is I'm 437 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 2: sure this is gonna be so flattering, domb. 438 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: I think the world of you because this one is uh, 439 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: he's into prank phone. 440 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 2: Calls, okay, which I which is throughout my life up. 441 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: And that's the only thing that reminds me of you 442 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: with this one. With this one's name is Charlie. 443 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 2: Okay. 444 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: He's going for twenty one dollars and fifty nine cents. 445 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 1: Very random number. Okay, geeha, show us Charlie, you got it, 446 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: roz boh, well, I can see the resemble. 447 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 2: I can see why that would remind you of me. 448 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 1: Uh, I don't like this. But Charlie comes with a 449 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: tongue hanging out. Yeah. This person staged a photo of 450 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: Charlie playing in the grass with little overalls on. 451 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not crazy about Charles. That tongue looks like 452 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 2: it's trying to escape. 453 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, that hard plastic tongue just hanging out of its mouth. 454 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: And those eyebrows, the eyebrows are nobody actually has eyebrows 455 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 1: like that. Dolls do, Okay, So these all come with bios. Yeah, Charlie, 456 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: he was twenty two when he passed. So just so 457 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: you know, Tom, we're supposed to believe that a real 458 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: living human lived and died and then ended up in 459 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: this doll and now it's for sale on eBay. 460 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 2: Okay. 461 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: Of course. He was full of life, always up to something. 462 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 1: A natural prank stir. He had a knack for making 463 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: everyone around him laugh, often at the most unexpected moments, 464 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: from hiding whoopee cushions in the most inconvenient places to 465 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: pulling elaborate tricks on his friends. Charlie thrived on the 466 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: art of the practical joke. He's one of these trickster types. 467 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, like demons. 468 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: Oh try these uh these peanuts, these peanut. 469 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 2: Brittle un unscrew the capumb peanut. 470 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: Going back to my father being a clown. That's why 471 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: I have not eaten peanut brittle. I don't trust it. 472 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 2: Okay, because of that. 473 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: If somebody says, would you like to try some peanut brittle, 474 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: I run because I know what that means. A snake's 475 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: gonna flash my face and I don't like that. Or 476 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: if somebody says, smell this flower, No, you don't do that. 477 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 2: Who are you hanging out with that? These are even 478 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 2: options all the time, like, hey, you want some peanut 479 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 2: brittle rons? And when's the last time you had peanut brittles? 480 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: Seven years older? Every day? 481 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough. 482 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: People just come up to me, they say, you want 483 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: some peanut. 484 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 2: But if I had a pack of gum and said here, 485 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 2: pull a stick out. 486 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: I've learned my lesson on that one. No matter how stanky, 487 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: my breath is not grabing unless I have control of 488 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: the gum. 489 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 2: I understand that completely. 490 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: Because if you don't know this people, and this is 491 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: a real thing. You have to be careful watch where 492 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: you're getting gum from because there there could be a 493 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: spring on it, and that. 494 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 2: Hurts, especially when you don't expect it. It's like a 495 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 2: stick in your finger in a mouse trap. 496 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: It is like that. Yeah, Okay, So basically that's that's 497 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: who Charlie was. Charlie was that kind of person. So 498 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: it says here these are some of the things you'll 499 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: experience if you buy Charlie. Unpredictable laughter. I'm used to that. 500 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: The sound of laughter, loud, jarring, and often inappropriately timed. 501 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: Oh that, nothing's worse than when some laughs during your punchline, 502 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: a mischievous cackle that's filled with irreverence. Okay, When Charlie 503 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: feels particularly playful, lights in the room will turn on 504 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: and off in rapid succession. Sometimes the lights will blink 505 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: to the beat of a rhythm, almost as if Charlie 506 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: is enjoying a private joke at the expense of his surroundings. 507 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: This guy just never quits, and that's the thing. You 508 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: got to turn it off sometime. 509 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 2: No, Charlie sounds like he would be like an improv 510 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 2: It sounds like Charlie B level three and you see me, 511 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 2: you see. 512 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: Oh you want to suggestion? How about you go in 513 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: a trash and Charlie, Yes, that's a suggestion from the audience. Exactly, 514 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: stay there. 515 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 2: First word, last word? How about we just do last word. 516 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: Charlie, zip zap z more like help me out, Tom, 517 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: more like, uh, we're not improv I don't. This is 518 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: why why you're supposed to damn it. This is what 519 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: you're supposed to take. 520 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 2: Going to be doing level one classes? What would it 521 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 2: take for you to do improv classes with me? 522 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm looking right now. Hang on, you see. 523 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 2: To farm dot com instead of this. 524 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: So farm dot com is offering h improv classes. They 525 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: are offering pig improv. Tom, let's do improv class together. 526 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 2: Who do you have for level one? Oh? Pig, pig 527 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 2: lady was my teacher. Level two is going to be 528 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 2: hooker man. It's all the that should be your improv school. 529 00:31:55,520 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: Oh? Absolutely, okay. Improv one on one starts the twenty third. 530 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: There's openings, if you can believe it, there's opening. 531 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 2: I don't want to even joke about this. 532 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: Now Wednesdays three pm to six. 533 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 2: I'm so busy. 534 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: Oh you're not, No, Tom make time for this. 535 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 2: No, I guess I'm doing him. I guess I'm a 536 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 2: level one improv student. Now. 537 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: I took improv during the pandemic over Zoom because I 538 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: was I was like, I need to do something. I 539 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: took the Groundlings. The hardest thing I've ever done in 540 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: my life. 541 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 2: Really over im over zoom. It would be hard. 542 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:37,719 Speaker 1: It was so hard. They were constantly like doing different 543 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: kind of voice or whatever. And I was like, I'm 544 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: kind like, I like don't to that kind of stuff. 545 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 1: I'm not that kind of like person. I don't do 546 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,479 Speaker 1: like Oh and now I am a lady that works 547 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: out of store, Like, I can't do that anyway. Charlie 548 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: cud You also sometimes hear Train because of Charlie, because 549 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: it seems like in his final moments he was hit 550 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: by a train. The trains the Hooker Man game and 551 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: got him. You know what, I was just thinking about 552 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: how iconic of a Halloween person you are. 553 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a big thing for me and Julia is 554 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 2: uh my wife, is Halloween turned into our thing? 555 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: Your Halloween party. The one time I went had literally 556 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: it was speaking of hocus Pocus. It was like you 557 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: had like a band where the people were dressed up 558 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: like the kid like spooky and they're playing spooky music. 559 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: Like do you only see that in a movie? You 560 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: don't see that in real life. 561 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 2: That was literally the best compliment we ever got was 562 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 2: that people were like, this is like the party that 563 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 2: I didn't think actually happened in real life, but I 564 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 2: only saw in like teen comedies. Everybody's in a costume. 565 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 2: There was a stage in the backyard with a band 566 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 2: with our friend Chockey, and he had all his friends 567 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,959 Speaker 2: in their dress like Frankenstein and doing all this stuff. 568 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 2: And yeah, it was pretty nuts. 569 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: You know who is there that I love? Vanessa Bayer? Yeah, 570 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 1: and I go where you just like, and she goes, 571 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 1: I'm a little lady. 572 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 2: She's so funny. 573 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: She's so funny. Can't play some ghost voices? Sure, it's 574 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: time for EVP or ev plicse EVP electronic voice phenomenon. 575 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: That's what people believe they've captured a ghost speaking. I 576 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: go to YouTube dot com. 577 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 2: Okay, are these the ones that come from the noise 578 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 2: on a cassette? Like that gets lost? Like sometimes people 579 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 2: say there's these little stretches on cassette tapes where you 580 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 2: can hear people trying to communicate. 581 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 1: Are you talking about like the subliminal messages and like 582 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: not that? 583 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 2: So this is more this is like an art bell 584 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 2: kind of thing. Yeah, where it would be like these 585 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 2: would be the sounds that exist like in the frequencies that. 586 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it sometimes can be. Okay, these 587 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 1: are more organic, at least these two that I've chosen. 588 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: We sometimes will have ones that come from like devices 589 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 1: or whatever. Okay, but my favorite is like where someone 590 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: just has a camera running and then all of a 591 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 1: sudden you hear like like that. 592 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 2: This is the stuff that spooks me out. Yeah, audio 593 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,760 Speaker 2: scares me more than than seeing something. Hearing something scares 594 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 2: me more than seeing something. 595 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,399 Speaker 1: Ah, I'm a feeling like feeling something is that I 596 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 1: can't deal with the thought of something like that I 597 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 1: can't see touching me. 598 00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 2: Yeah. When we were in sell and we stayed in 599 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 2: a house that was from it was like built in 600 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 2: sixteen eighty one, and it was horrifying. 601 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: That's so scary. What was the what was it? 602 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:15,240 Speaker 2: It was just a three story house that the group 603 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 2: we went with stayed at. And the other thing that 604 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 2: was I think part of my problem was that the 605 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 2: doorways are so low in houses. Like I banged my 606 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 2: head like hard for five times, Like I mean like 607 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 2: full on walking through a doorway and not realizing that 608 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 2: you're clipping your forehead on the top of it to 609 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 2: where like oh, seeing stars five times. So I might 610 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 2: have just been like concussed, oh the sort. But it 611 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 2: is just a weird feeling. I don't know if it's 612 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 2: that the house is so old and it's kind of crooked, 613 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 2: and it's like it's not it's not a RESTful experience 614 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 2: being in a house. 615 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: Now, not at all, And it's just like I don't know, 616 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 1: like that there's no insulation or I don't know what 617 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: it is like it just I hate that I'm not 618 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,839 Speaker 1: into old houses like that at all. I've really come 619 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 1: to the realization after staying in all of these haunted 620 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,879 Speaker 1: old ass places. I love like mid century Okay, I'm 621 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,239 Speaker 1: okay with that, but when we're talking eighteen hundreds or 622 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 1: before then, I'm not into it. 623 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 2: No, it's even if nothing's going on, they're still creepy. 624 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 2: They're so creepy. 625 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,439 Speaker 1: Oh, they're just so creepy. When I see like a 626 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 1: floral bedspread and like one of these old bed and 627 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 1: breakfast that I'm already spooked. I'm like a ready screaming. Yeah, 628 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 1: I see like one of these like Tiffany lamps or whatever. 629 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:41,319 Speaker 1: Get me out of here. Okay, So these are two EVPs, 630 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 1: this first one. They're both from a channel called Hybrid 631 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: Soulless Paranormal, and they believe this is the voice of 632 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 1: a mature woman, which feels like a porn category. But okay, 633 00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 1: mature woman, what is she saying, Tom sharp Lang, Okay, 634 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 1: wait one more? I love you play it. 635 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,760 Speaker 2: I don't know. Sounds like the NBC. 636 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:22,720 Speaker 1: That's not what they believe. 637 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 2: I didn't think she was saying NBC. 638 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 1: Hybrid Solace paranormal. Did they think it was a you're 639 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 1: a loser, B she moved me, C he lives here? 640 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 1: Or D you booze too much? Okay, it's one of these. 641 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 2: I would say, B she moved me. 642 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:56,839 Speaker 1: Yea, that is what they believe. Tom sharplying one for one. 643 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 2: And now I'm terrified now I hear it. 644 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 1: Here's the next one. I'm not sure if it's the 645 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 1: same location. I don't know, but it's the same channel 646 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 1: posted this one. Was it saying I don't think this 647 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 1: is a mature woman at this time, I don't know 648 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:23,400 Speaker 1: who this is. It might be the same lady, and 649 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 1: he guesses I don't have any guess that's okay. Did 650 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 1: they think it was a you are so boring girl? 651 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 1: B Louis was born to do it? C. I could 652 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:43,840 Speaker 1: have sworn you're dead or D the chicken is warm, 653 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:44,959 Speaker 1: I swear. 654 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 2: I guess I would say C. 655 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 1: They believe it was B. Lewis was born to do it. 656 00:39:55,040 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 2: I want to know Lewis. Well here I hear it, 657 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 2: so once you know, yeah, or if it's Louis c K. 658 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 1: That's what I'm afraid of. 659 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 2: I don't want to know what he was born to do. 660 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 1: Tom One last thing. Yes, I'm just curious some of 661 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:22,240 Speaker 1: your beliefs. UFOs were ye at with them. 662 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 2: I think again, I think something's going on. I don't 663 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 2: know where I stand on the continuum of things, but 664 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 2: I would just say, yeah, I believe something's up. 665 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:38,319 Speaker 1: Okay. What about Ouiji boards? Yeah, one of them. 666 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 2: When we went to Salem, there is a wija board 667 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 2: museum and it was the coolest, one of the coolest 668 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:49,280 Speaker 2: things I've ever seen. The guy who runs it, they're 669 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,440 Speaker 2: his boards he's been collecting them his whole life. And 670 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 2: first you're just seeing this guy, this funny kook, and 671 00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:01,880 Speaker 2: I said, in the best possible intent, and he's living 672 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 2: his dream. He has a museum of wig aboards. It's 673 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,360 Speaker 2: the thing he's interested in more than anything. It was amazing. 674 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 1: That's great. I like seeing that. 675 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 2: Mm hm. But they do they spook me out? 676 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, do you really think that you could like summon 677 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:19,320 Speaker 1: a demon. 678 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 2: I don't think that's the I don't think that happens 679 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 2: all the time. But again, but it just seemed. Look, 680 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 2: they stay just scare me because suddenly if you're if 681 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,439 Speaker 2: the when the mood gets right on certain things. I've 682 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 2: never done a wig aboard thing because I just I 683 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 2: just it just never happened. 684 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:41,400 Speaker 1: But I but if a demon's feeling in the mood. 685 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 2: The scary thing on them is when says goodbye, like 686 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 2: on the board. 687 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 1: Oh that sounds great. 688 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 2: But just like that, which eventually a demon says, I'm 689 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:50,160 Speaker 2: leaving like that. 690 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,879 Speaker 1: To me, this is the worst slumber party I've ever 691 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:53,399 Speaker 1: been through. 692 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 2: You kids are lame. I'm out of here. I'm going 693 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,279 Speaker 2: to go hang out with the hooker man. 694 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,759 Speaker 1: But that's what I what are like, how does that 695 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 1: work when you're like a dead person? Because I feel 696 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,720 Speaker 1: like at slumber parties a lot of times people aren't 697 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 1: trying to speak to specifically someone, so instead they're just 698 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 1: like asking questions will I go on a date with 699 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,280 Speaker 1: Derek or whatever? And then it's like who's the ghost 700 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 1: that's like, Okay, we're getting a call coming in from 701 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:27,879 Speaker 1: like this these twelve year old slumber party Okay, let's 702 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 1: let's do some fun. Let's say like, no, he hates you. Yeah, 703 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 1: that's the kind of job that or the old hag 704 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 1: that crawls on people when they have sleeper listens, those 705 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,719 Speaker 1: are the ones I'm applying for the first day I'm dead. 706 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 2: I guess I would want to do some sort of 707 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 2: wage board thing. 708 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 1: Oh my god, you would be so good at that 709 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 1: as a ghost. 710 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 2: Just say like Derek is dead? 711 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,440 Speaker 1: What he's up here? 712 00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 2: Oh? 713 00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:58,360 Speaker 1: Sorry, wrong, Derek? 714 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. I wonder if that's like you're low on 715 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,719 Speaker 2: the ladder of spirits and you're just like you have 716 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 2: to do like slummer party duty. 717 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 1: To work your way. Yeah, what about synchronosities or you know, 718 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 1: are you into that sort of a thing. Are you 719 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 1: someone that goes it's a sign. It means something. 720 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,719 Speaker 2: I think to a degree, I am. I. I guess 721 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,760 Speaker 2: the biggest thing I would say the idea of deja 722 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 2: vous for me, and the idea of time I just 723 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:35,839 Speaker 2: see as completely. It's not linear at all. And I 724 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:39,000 Speaker 2: feel like sometimes I feel like I've done all of 725 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 2: this already and I remember doing it. 726 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 1: Are you a past lives person? 727 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 2: I do think you. I do. I believe ultimately guess 728 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:51,720 Speaker 2: that just like in energy, and I think you can 729 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 2: come back and do better next time and maybe get 730 00:43:56,239 --> 00:44:00,200 Speaker 2: rewarded for being a good person that maybe you art 731 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:01,880 Speaker 2: at a better place. 732 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 1: Would you guess that you're a young one or an 733 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 1: old one, like you've been here a lot or new 734 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 1: I think this is the last one for me, maybe 735 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 1: one more. 736 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,879 Speaker 2: I think I've been a few rounds already, and we're 737 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,239 Speaker 2: waiting for like finally it's just like, okay, fine, now 738 00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 2: we're gonna now we're going to take care of you 739 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,439 Speaker 2: because you were you did right. 740 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,600 Speaker 1: I think you were a vaudeville starr. 741 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,959 Speaker 2: So you think that's what I was the last time? Sure? 742 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:33,719 Speaker 1: Or like a radio guy or something like early radio voices. 743 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 2: Sure, I could see that. And then now I'm back. 744 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 2: What did I do in that previous life that may 745 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,799 Speaker 2: put me in this one? I'm getting punished a little bit. 746 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 1: Na last one. Bigfoot? Who's that? What's the deal real? 747 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 2: I don't know if Bigfoot's real? I do. I do 748 00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,759 Speaker 2: believe that there's like the idea that Australia is so 749 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,319 Speaker 2: huge and we don't know what's going on in the 750 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 2: middle of it, that they're still they still find species 751 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,480 Speaker 2: and up thing. That's the scariest thing ever when you 752 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,560 Speaker 2: think of Australia so enormous, but everybody just lives on 753 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,319 Speaker 2: the coast in the middle of it is just untamed 754 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 2: and it's just like, that's terrifying to me. 755 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 1: Oh, there's so many scary things. My biggest thing, and 756 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,880 Speaker 1: I think it goes back to the peanut brittle, is snakes. 757 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 1: I don't like them at all. 758 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's one of the creepiest things about I 759 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,400 Speaker 2: would love to go to Australia, but that part of 760 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:37,160 Speaker 2: it freaks me out. Is the seat too, the wild, 761 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 2: the way nature just spills over, like you see a 762 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 2: kangaroo and you're walking down the street. 763 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 1: So you believe in Bigfoot, is what you're saying. 764 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 2: I believe. I think there could definitely be some Bigfoot 765 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:49,080 Speaker 2: out there. 766 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 1: You know, there's one in Jersey called big red Eye. 767 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 1: Big red Eye, Old red Eye are so okay, I 768 00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 1: just just so that I don't misrepresent you're your heritage. 769 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 2: My heritage. Let's please show respect to my New Jersey heritage. 770 00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 1: Big red Eye. I took one of those to get here, 771 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 1: Big red Eye. According to Weird New Jersey dot com, Bigfoot, 772 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,759 Speaker 1: big red Eye. So it's basically so they got a 773 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 1: great picture accurate. So basically this one is Bigfoot but 774 00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 1: with red eyes. 775 00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. Now I'm scared of Bigfoot. I always thought Bigfoot 776 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 2: you could coexist with, Like Bigfoot's not coming to kill you. 777 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 2: This one is left alone. 778 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,480 Speaker 1: Or Here's here's what I'm gonna do. I'm going to 779 00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,960 Speaker 1: pitch this as a commercial to the commercial people, and 780 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:51,240 Speaker 1: I'm going to get ben Stein clear rise. 781 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:56,440 Speaker 2: Sure, that's what bring them back right right? Wheel them in. 782 00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:04,360 Speaker 1: Clear Oh Bigfoot, your eyes? I don't remember. I'm not 783 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,400 Speaker 1: good at pressions. This is the d stuff we're going 784 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:07,960 Speaker 1: to work on at UCPUS. 785 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,759 Speaker 2: This is why say we want to get better at 786 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 2: character work. 787 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:14,840 Speaker 1: It says, over a period of two weeks, back in 788 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:20,960 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy seven, strange moaning sounds and eerie, haunting screams 789 00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:26,160 Speaker 1: filled the night along wolf Pitt Road in Sussex County, Ring. 790 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,799 Speaker 2: About a little north of where I grew up. 791 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,040 Speaker 1: But it always started around two am and went on 792 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:36,240 Speaker 1: until almost dawn. It sounded like some kind of huge 793 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,719 Speaker 1: primeate making these noises, and it woke me out of 794 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 1: my sound sleep. I had the windows open so I 795 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:46,440 Speaker 1: could hear it. Really well, I'm not going to read 796 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,439 Speaker 1: all of this, but it turns out it was Big 797 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:49,000 Speaker 1: Red Eye. 798 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,440 Speaker 2: Okay, New Jersey's a creepy place. There was a a 799 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:56,080 Speaker 2: There was an amusement park and it had had animals 800 00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,560 Speaker 2: in it where you drive through and then that went 801 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:02,360 Speaker 2: under and then they animals were just like supposedly loose 802 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:03,480 Speaker 2: in the state. 803 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 1: Oh that's nice. 804 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:07,360 Speaker 2: The lions. 805 00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:09,680 Speaker 1: That's nice. 806 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:10,719 Speaker 2: All right. 807 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,120 Speaker 1: Well, I guess that's all I got for you. 808 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,440 Speaker 2: Well, I guess i'll see over you said Wednesdays at 809 00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 2: three to six. We're doing well, Okay. 810 00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,439 Speaker 1: I think we're going to do good together. We could 811 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,520 Speaker 1: do a two person team if you want. 812 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, we could go in just maybe in a two 813 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,120 Speaker 2: headed giant sweater. We have. 814 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,040 Speaker 1: Or a horse front back. 815 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,560 Speaker 2: We split it then fifty fifth, like we only pay 816 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,879 Speaker 2: half because we say we're one horse, right, and we'll 817 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 2: do the improv. 818 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,480 Speaker 1: We'll be like the Sclar brothers. 819 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:48,800 Speaker 2: Will be just like the Sclar brothers. 820 00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,399 Speaker 1: Tom Sharply And where do you want people to find 821 00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:55,560 Speaker 1: you besides at UCB every week? Yeah? 822 00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:59,759 Speaker 2: I do the best show every Tuesday, and been doing 823 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,360 Speaker 2: that for a very long time. Now it's a twenty 824 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,040 Speaker 2: fifty year I've been doing it. 825 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,240 Speaker 1: Ross twenty five years. 826 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:10,240 Speaker 2: Unbelievable. Wow, What am I doing with my life? Wow? 827 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:14,040 Speaker 2: And I do Double Threat every week with Julie Clowns there. Yeah. 828 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,439 Speaker 1: Did you ever have a psychic on or anything like that? 829 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, we've I've had people over the We had a 830 00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:21,800 Speaker 2: psychic on Double Threat. 831 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,560 Speaker 1: I remember that that because you did who was it 832 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,120 Speaker 1: Orson Wells or somebody you did a seance? 833 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,959 Speaker 2: I think so, and I think John Daly was there 834 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:36,000 Speaker 2: for it. And then just the psychic was saying all 835 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,799 Speaker 2: these things about John's life, and then off air, John 836 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,480 Speaker 2: was just like, none of that was I was just 837 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,920 Speaker 2: being polite. Oh, I didn't want to like burn the 838 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,560 Speaker 2: person on air, but was like they got everything wrong. 839 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:54,439 Speaker 1: So well, great, Yes, Double Threat, which I'm obsessed with. 840 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:56,799 Speaker 2: You've been on Double Threat, You've been on the best 841 00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:00,960 Speaker 2: show I have. Yes, I've been on Hosted Man. Now 842 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,160 Speaker 2: you can say that the circle is complete. 843 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:08,799 Speaker 1: All right, Well, anyone listening look forward to our new 844 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:12,040 Speaker 1: two person act called Hooker Man and the Pig Lady. 845 00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,520 Speaker 2: Yeah it sounds like a sitcom. 846 00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:19,960 Speaker 1: Or like a radio show. 847 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like an old timey radio. 848 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:27,120 Speaker 1: Hooker Man and the Pig Lady. Thank you so much 849 00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:34,200 Speaker 1: to Tom Sharpling. What a dear. I love you all, 850 00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,440 Speaker 1: both living and dead. But if I didn't ask you 851 00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:48,319 Speaker 1: to haunt me, don't haunt me came back. This has 852 00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:52,080 Speaker 1: been an exactly right production. Want to share your paranormal 853 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:55,600 Speaker 1: experience on the podcast? I read stories out loud and 854 00:50:55,760 --> 00:51:00,560 Speaker 1: sometimes I'll even call you. So email me at Ghostedz 855 00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,719 Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. You can send a DM or 856 00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:07,560 Speaker 1: voice message to the show's Instagram at ghosted by Roz. 857 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,600 Speaker 1: Give us a follow while you're there, and follow me 858 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:15,279 Speaker 1: Roz on Instagram at Roz Hernandez and on TikTok and 859 00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:20,040 Speaker 1: Twitter at It's Roz Hernandez. My senior producer is the 860 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:26,520 Speaker 1: startling Jiha Lee Associate producer is the alarming Christina Chamberlain. 861 00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:30,759 Speaker 1: This episode was mixed and sound designed by the eerie 862 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:36,319 Speaker 1: Edson Choi. My guest booker is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner. 863 00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:41,520 Speaker 1: My theme music is by the spine chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. 864 00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:48,920 Speaker 1: Artwork by the spooky Vanessa Lilac. Photography by the terrifying 865 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:55,080 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced by the chilling Karen Kilgaiff, the 866 00:51:55,239 --> 00:52:02,120 Speaker 1: spooky Georgia hart Stark, and the frightening Danielle Kramer. Listen 867 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:08,600 Speaker 1: to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 868 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,320 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts