WEBVTT - The Golden Age of Radio

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<v Speaker 1>Get in touch with technology. It was tex Stuff from

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Strickland and I am joined by a special guest,

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<v Speaker 1>my buddy Christian, who is here. Hey Jonathan, Hey Christian,

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<v Speaker 1>how you doing. I am good? Windy outside it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a little windy, a little rainy outside in Atlanta today.

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<v Speaker 1>It's terrible because this morning it was it was, it

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<v Speaker 1>was raining, but the temperature was about twenty degrees warmer. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it dropped significantly. I'm regretting my choice of jackets well,

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<v Speaker 1>especially because it was in the seventies yesterday. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And now this is this is Atlanta people complaining about

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<v Speaker 1>whether right. Yeah. Sorry for all of you who are

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<v Speaker 1>in Montreal or New York or you know, any place

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<v Speaker 1>where the temperature drops below, say zero, on a regular basis.

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<v Speaker 1>Here we're like, it's a little chilly, that's raining. Uh. Today,

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<v Speaker 1>Christian and I are going to talk about a subject

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<v Speaker 1>that was suggested by a listener, And first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>I must apologize to said listener because despite my heroic

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<v Speaker 1>efforts of researching where this suggestion came from, I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>find it. So I'm guessing this was actually an older one,

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<v Speaker 1>but said the forward thinking, bad prediction story about Hugo

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<v Speaker 1>Gernsback got me thinking about how crazy it must have

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<v Speaker 1>been to have lived through the debut of public radio,

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<v Speaker 1>all the excitement and so little understanding, fireside chats, fearmongering

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<v Speaker 1>about radio death rays. A history episode about the promises

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<v Speaker 1>in popular notions surrounding radio could be fun and uh

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<v Speaker 1>so we wanted to talk about the dawn of broadcast

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<v Speaker 1>radio before we get into that. I should mention that

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<v Speaker 1>way back in April two thousand eleven, Chris Pallette and

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<v Speaker 1>I sat down and recorded an episode titled Who Invented

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<v Speaker 1>the Radio, which was mostly about the inventors who discovered

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<v Speaker 1>radio waves and found ways to generate radio waves, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>including the two big names Tesla and Marconi. Anyone who

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<v Speaker 1>knows anything about the patent wars knows about there was

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<v Speaker 1>a big kerfuffle between the two of those guys. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>little peek behind the curtain. That is the first time,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think the only time I have recorded an

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<v Speaker 1>entire episode and immediately said we can't use that, let's

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<v Speaker 1>do it again, or recorded it all over because the

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<v Speaker 1>ghost of Marconi was haunting you there was that, and

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<v Speaker 1>we had in the old studio we had a portrait

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<v Speaker 1>of Nicola Tesla on the wall. We felt judged, but

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<v Speaker 1>mainly Chris and I both felt that we gave such

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<v Speaker 1>a disjointed story that we were jumping around so much

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<v Speaker 1>that it made no sense. And so we we after

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<v Speaker 1>talking it through once we went back re recorded, so

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<v Speaker 1>that first episode that we recorded it's lost to time.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have it anymore, at least I hope will

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<v Speaker 1>be more organized today. But I'll tell you just from

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<v Speaker 1>going through all this research that this is such a

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<v Speaker 1>vast amount of information for this period of time, and

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's in you can you can get

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<v Speaker 1>a PhD in radio communication in the history of radio

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<v Speaker 1>and understanding these things, and it's yeah, we will probably

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<v Speaker 1>only scratch the surface today. Ig Yeah, there there and

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<v Speaker 1>there's so many crazy dramatic stories of the trail of

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<v Speaker 1>of con men, of big media. It's like this pirate

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<v Speaker 1>industry of people just messing with each other. It's it's fascinating.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, there there's probably two or three podcast worth

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<v Speaker 1>of information that we could cover, but we're gonna try

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<v Speaker 1>and get this in one if we can. So first

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<v Speaker 1>thing I got to mention is that radio and broadcast

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<v Speaker 1>radio are two different things. You know, radio in the

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<v Speaker 1>sense of what Tesla and Marconi were looking at, they

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<v Speaker 1>were looking at ways of transmitting short signals across distances

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<v Speaker 1>without using wires, so that was it. They were looking

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<v Speaker 1>largely at using Morse code. So they might use a

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<v Speaker 1>spark gap technology where they would create sparks and send

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<v Speaker 1>messages that way. But you couldn't really do a sustained

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<v Speaker 1>message that way without creating a lot of static and noise,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was a real problem. So we need to

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<v Speaker 1>look at another person for broadcast radio. That would be

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<v Speaker 1>a Canadian by the name of Reginald Fessenden, who essentially

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<v Speaker 1>invented a M radio that would be uh, the amplitude

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<v Speaker 1>modulated radio. And so from your notes here your notes,

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<v Speaker 1>it says he worked with Edison for Edison. Actually he

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<v Speaker 1>actually worked for both Westinghouse and Edison at different points

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<v Speaker 1>in his career. So yeah, he just like Tesla, Tesla

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<v Speaker 1>also worked for both, although you know, again working for

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<v Speaker 1>like it's like me saying that, you know, I worked

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<v Speaker 1>for the head of our parent company. Technically I do,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't have any contact with them. So uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he had dropped out of school as a young man.

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<v Speaker 1>He actually did not complete his school work, but he

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<v Speaker 1>was mainly interested in electricity and this potential to transmit

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<v Speaker 1>messages wirelessly, and he was using that spark gap technology.

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<v Speaker 1>But that was the problem, was that it was creating

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<v Speaker 1>so much static and noise that it was very difficult

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<v Speaker 1>to get any intelligible message across. Yeah. So actually I

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<v Speaker 1>want to interject here for a second. So, um, in

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<v Speaker 1>like the model of human communication, when scholars are looking

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<v Speaker 1>at how human beings communicate with each other regardless of media,

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<v Speaker 1>they actually use uh this Fessenden Marconi uh model of

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<v Speaker 1>transmissions as like the baseline for it. And it's all

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<v Speaker 1>about like sending and receiving with feedback and feed forward

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<v Speaker 1>and then there's a signal to noise ratio. That's how

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<v Speaker 1>it's all understood, whether you and I are sitting here

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<v Speaker 1>talking in the same room, or it's mass media or

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<v Speaker 1>it's uh like like in the early days of radio,

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<v Speaker 1>that the way they literally thought of it was two

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<v Speaker 1>ships that were thousands of yards away from one another

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<v Speaker 1>trying to contact each other using this old radio technology,

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<v Speaker 1>and they would have so much static they would have

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<v Speaker 1>to constantly give each other feedback and feed forward to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure the message was understood. It makes perfect sense,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, especially when you see the brilliance of Fessenden.

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<v Speaker 1>He thought, well, they I can. I can create these

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<v Speaker 1>sparks of electricity, create these electromagnetic fields and thus creating

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<v Speaker 1>radio waves, but it isn't giving me the fidelity I

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<v Speaker 1>need in order to communicate properly. He then thought, what

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<v Speaker 1>if I used a continuous wave. So I create a

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<v Speaker 1>sign wave and oscillating wave with the same amplitude, same frequency,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's just steady. Now that's not carrying any information

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<v Speaker 1>by itself. It's if you could if you could hear it,

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<v Speaker 1>it would just be a steady tone. But it's actually

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<v Speaker 1>talking about using frequencies above the limit of human hearing.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's say you create this wave, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>were too introduce a second wave, one that was created

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<v Speaker 1>by your voice. So you speak into a microphone, it

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<v Speaker 1>gets converted into electric waves. You add that on top

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<v Speaker 1>of the uh the existing wave you've already created, and

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<v Speaker 1>you allow it to change the amplitude of that wave.

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<v Speaker 1>As the two waves are overlaid on top of one another. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>it's genius. It is genius. It's absolutely genius. Uh. So

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<v Speaker 1>this was a M radio. This was the idea that

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<v Speaker 1>what that became a M radio because it does modulate

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<v Speaker 1>the amplitude of that wave. So the amplitude, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>is the the peak to peak uh difference, Right, it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not how many oscillations. This is just the the

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<v Speaker 1>amplitude of the wave itself, how tall the peaks are,

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<v Speaker 1>how low the troughs are, if you were looking at

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<v Speaker 1>the wave across a line the way. It's assuming that

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<v Speaker 1>this innovation of his significantly reduced the noise and static.

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<v Speaker 1>It did, it did. It did still have issues and

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<v Speaker 1>that you could have interference with other waves that were

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<v Speaker 1>created at that same frequency. It also meant that you

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<v Speaker 1>could get interference with other electromagnetic phenomenons, like like a

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<v Speaker 1>lightning strike. So also if you pass below, like if

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<v Speaker 1>you go under a bridge, you would hear, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the disruption of the signal. So it wasn't perfect, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was an incredible step forward. And this was a

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<v Speaker 1>revolutionary I mean he tested it successfully. He did a

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<v Speaker 1>short distance test between two towers and it worked fine.

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<v Speaker 1>And then in nineteen o six he had his infamous

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas concert for sailors. See this is yeah, this is

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<v Speaker 1>where I think that that boat to boat idea comes from,

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<v Speaker 1>right yeah, Because it turns out the disaster of the

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<v Speaker 1>Titanic would end up really making this uh clear that

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<v Speaker 1>needed to be some radio communication for ships at sea.

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<v Speaker 1>But what he wanted to do was he wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>send out a message to essentially telegraph operators aboard ships.

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<v Speaker 1>That was his plan. So he proceeded the concert with

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<v Speaker 1>an actual telegraph message that essentially translates into hey, pay attention.

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<v Speaker 1>And then once he did that, he started it was

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<v Speaker 1>coming right. They were not, most of them. They just

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<v Speaker 1>knew to pay attention because I got yeah there. They

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<v Speaker 1>were like, well, here's the message. Whatever is going to happen,

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<v Speaker 1>We need to really focus. And so what they were

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<v Speaker 1>expecting to hear were just the noises they would hear

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<v Speaker 1>for the dots and dashes of Morse code. So then

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<v Speaker 1>he he gives a short speech, he plays a violin

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<v Speaker 1>uh and plays a Holy Night. There were supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be other people who talked into the microphone too, but

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<v Speaker 1>most of them chickened out because they they got like

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<v Speaker 1>terrible stage fright because they realized all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 1>that they were speaking to like hundreds of people, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And so anyway, it ended up being a big hit.

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<v Speaker 1>Sailors up and down the Atlantic coast we're we're able

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<v Speaker 1>to hear him and reported back to it. So it

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<v Speaker 1>was known to be a success, and that's how AM

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<v Speaker 1>radio got started. Yeah, yeah, I like that. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>that's a nice start to it ends up being. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so so he he demonstrates this capability, and immediately other

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<v Speaker 1>physicists and engineers start to experiment with it because some

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<v Speaker 1>of them had been independently working on the same kind

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<v Speaker 1>of idea. Fessendon ended up being the first to make

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<v Speaker 1>it really work in a public demonstration. So you had

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of other people who were who either adopted

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<v Speaker 1>his ideas or continued to develop their own ideas, and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of amateurs were starting to experiment with radio transmissions,

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<v Speaker 1>including transmitting out to telegraph operators, who often were very

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<v Speaker 1>much entertained by this because it was different from just

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<v Speaker 1>listening to clicks on the headphones. This is the part

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<v Speaker 1>that's the most fascinating about the evolution of radio to

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<v Speaker 1>me is that even though the technology is ultimately made

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<v Speaker 1>for mass communication. People originally started using it as one

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<v Speaker 1>to one communication across long distances, replacing a telegraph. And

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<v Speaker 1>then uh, these amateur operators, these like d I y

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<v Speaker 1>uh people in their in their garage, is just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>tinkering around with the technology that they could get a

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<v Speaker 1>hold of. We're able to turn it into this mass

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<v Speaker 1>communication then yeah, And it's funny because when you look

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<v Speaker 1>at the early ones, obviously they were using very low

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<v Speaker 1>wattage transmitters, so that meant that they couldn't transmit very far,

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<v Speaker 1>most of them. I mean, if you were a big name,

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<v Speaker 1>you might be able to work with someone like General

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<v Speaker 1>Electric to get a really big transmitter and be able

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<v Speaker 1>to send a signal far away, because the signals reach

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<v Speaker 1>is largely dependent upon the power of the transmitter. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>The further way you get, the weaker the signal is,

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<v Speaker 1>and the less you'll be likely you are able to

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<v Speaker 1>pick it up with a receiver. So in the early days,

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<v Speaker 1>people were happy to experiment with this, and there was

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<v Speaker 1>really no regulation because there there hadn't been a demonstrable

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<v Speaker 1>need to regulate yet, because no one had the power

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<v Speaker 1>to interfere that much with anything that was important. Seven

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<v Speaker 1>Festan would invent a high frequency electric generator to create

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<v Speaker 1>radio waves in the Hurts frequency, which was really important,

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<v Speaker 1>and in night. Dr Charles Aaron Culver, who was newly

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<v Speaker 1>hired as a professor of physics at Beloit College or

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<v Speaker 1>bell Watt if you prefer um. It's it's in a

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<v Speaker 1>town called bell Watt actually um, but set up a

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<v Speaker 1>radio telegraph assembly which became the foundation for the college

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<v Speaker 1>is radio station, though voice in music transmission wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>part of it until the ninth twenties. But this this

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<v Speaker 1>became like again, it was someone a physics professor, in

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<v Speaker 1>this case, a physics professor who was already interested in

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<v Speaker 1>radio and had been working on it independently, setting up

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<v Speaker 1>a thing that would eventually evolve into an early early

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<v Speaker 1>radio station. Yeah, and that's kind of another interesting aspect

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<v Speaker 1>of this too, is that these early amateur radio stations

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<v Speaker 1>weren't just uh d I y kind of hobbyists doing

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<v Speaker 1>it on their own. A lot of it was educational institutions,

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<v Speaker 1>not just colleges but also high schools that were just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, trying to use it for educational purposes. And

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<v Speaker 1>that it's interesting later on what happens when amateur radio

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<v Speaker 1>sort of gets more regulated. It really reminds me of

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<v Speaker 1>the early days of personal computers and how how it

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<v Speaker 1>first started off as a hobbyist thing, and then you know,

0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:56.720
<v Speaker 1>you had bleeding edge adopters who might not build a computer,

0:13:56.840 --> 0:13:59.240
<v Speaker 1>but they're curious about how they might use it. And

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<v Speaker 1>then later who had people who were uh you know

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<v Speaker 1>more it became more and more mainstream as time went on.

0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:09.840
<v Speaker 1>So we've seen other emerging technologies that have followed a

0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:14.559
<v Speaker 1>similar pathway to radio. Uh. Not always with the dramatics.

0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:16.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there were some definite dramatics and early personal

0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:20.880
<v Speaker 1>computers too. But we got some crazy stories to tell.

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<v Speaker 1>But first we have another big name in radio that

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<v Speaker 1>we have to mention. Yeah, so in nineteen ten, this

0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:30.360
<v Speaker 1>guy lead to Forest uh really broadcasted like the first

0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:36.120
<v Speaker 1>sort of broad meant for mass communication radio broadcast uh,

0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:40.800
<v Speaker 1>specifically of a guy named Enrico Caruso singing. I believe

0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:44.160
<v Speaker 1>it was opera singing from what I understood, UM, and

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<v Speaker 1>that he he ushered in this area era of radio communications.

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<v Speaker 1>And unfortunately, though even though he was broadcasting probably on

0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:56.000
<v Speaker 1>Fessenden's new system, for the most part it was static

0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:59.320
<v Speaker 1>and radio interference, so the audience barely heard anything. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for a decade afterwards, radio fans were both

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<v Speaker 1>using uh, these amateur radio units to broadcast and receive. Yeah,

0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:11.360
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't just them receiving. Yeah, it wasn't like they

0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:14.960
<v Speaker 1>were a passive audience. They were creating as well. And again,

0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:19.360
<v Speaker 1>depending upon the power of their radio transmitters. It maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that they were only transmitting to people in their general

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<v Speaker 1>neighborhood or even small town, but you wouldn't be able

0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:28.520
<v Speaker 1>to necessarily pick up that signal for much further. It

0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:30.640
<v Speaker 1>also depends on the quality of the receiver as well.

0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:34.720
<v Speaker 1>Like you could build a very simple a radio receiver

0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:37.480
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't even require a battery and as a crystal,

0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:41.600
<v Speaker 1>a very long antenna and some headphones and uh, you

0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:44.200
<v Speaker 1>can pick up radio signals if you're close enough to

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<v Speaker 1>a transmitter. Uh. And in fact, that's a fun project

0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:48.960
<v Speaker 1>to do. You can look up how to do that online.

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<v Speaker 1>So also in nineteen ten, the same time Leada Forest

0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:54.240
<v Speaker 1>was was experimenting with us, you had a guy named

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<v Speaker 1>Charles David Harold who opened a school that he called

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<v Speaker 1>the Herald College of Engineering and Wireless and he was

0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:04.320
<v Speaker 1>experimenting with wireless voice transmissions as early as nineteen o

0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:08.240
<v Speaker 1>nine and providing a thrill to telegraph operators who suddenly

0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:10.720
<v Speaker 1>were able to hear voices over the telegraph lines. Now

0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:14.840
<v Speaker 1>this is out in California, so he's surprising people out

0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:18.040
<v Speaker 1>there who normally they weren't expecting it at all, but

0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:21.080
<v Speaker 1>they loved it because he would imagine, this job is

0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:25.360
<v Speaker 1>a little probably very tedious. Yeah. So he actually started

0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:29.720
<v Speaker 1>setting up a regular broadcast time, like the first radio

0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:32.920
<v Speaker 1>programming in a way, And by nineteen ten he had

0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:36.200
<v Speaker 1>created this, uh, this program that would include reading out

0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:40.640
<v Speaker 1>news to telegraph operators. And his wife Sybil, got involved

0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:43.880
<v Speaker 1>and she started playing records that the description I said

0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:46.200
<v Speaker 1>was the kind of records young people like to listen

0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:52.000
<v Speaker 1>to back in nineteen Yeah, so playing records, So playing

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<v Speaker 1>music for these telegraph operators and holding the first radio contests.

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<v Speaker 1>And here's how already contest work. Back then, she would

0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:06.159
<v Speaker 1>instruct people listening to come by their house sign a

0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:08.280
<v Speaker 1>guest book with their name and where they were from,

0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:11.600
<v Speaker 1>and then they might win a little prize. Number seven. No,

0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:15.560
<v Speaker 1>wasn't calling number seven. Uh. And here's the coolest part.

0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:19.280
<v Speaker 1>I think this little amateur station. Eventually, over time in

0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:25.080
<v Speaker 1>ninety one would become kq W, and in nineteen it

0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:30.760
<v Speaker 1>would evolve into k CBS as then the CBS. Yeah,

0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:33.240
<v Speaker 1>I thought that was really interesting, especially like we'll talk

0:17:33.320 --> 0:17:36.800
<v Speaker 1>later about, CBS is sort of importance in the big

0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:40.440
<v Speaker 1>game of radio development. Yeah. So nineteen ten is also

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<v Speaker 1>when the US passed the Wireless Ship Act, which required

0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:45.920
<v Speaker 1>all ships of the US traveling more than two miles

0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:48.679
<v Speaker 1>off the coast and carrying more than fifty passengers to

0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:52.359
<v Speaker 1>have a wireless radio equipment on board with a with

0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:55.720
<v Speaker 1>an operator, and the transmission range had to be at

0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:59.000
<v Speaker 1>least a hundred miles. And that meant that it created

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more our radio transmissions broadcast without any regulation.

0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:06.760
<v Speaker 1>This is where the United States government starts to say,

0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:09.560
<v Speaker 1>this is going to become a problem because now we

0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:11.560
<v Speaker 1>we already have a lot of radio traffic going on

0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:15.240
<v Speaker 1>just through amateurs as well as ship to land land

0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:17.880
<v Speaker 1>to ship communication. Uh, it's starting to get a little

0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:20.080
<v Speaker 1>crowded and we're starting to get interference. We need to

0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:22.760
<v Speaker 1>figure out how to handle this. So in nineteen twelve

0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:25.280
<v Speaker 1>they passed the Radio Act of nineteen twelve, which is

0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:26.879
<v Speaker 1>good because if they had passed the Radio Act of

0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:30.440
<v Speaker 1>nineteen twelve, and like nineteen eleven, everyone would have been confused. Uh.

0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:32.480
<v Speaker 1>And it marked the first time the US government required

0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:36.240
<v Speaker 1>radio stations to be licensed. So the licensing was really

0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:39.560
<v Speaker 1>just to create order in chaos. Uh. And it was

0:18:39.600 --> 0:18:43.080
<v Speaker 1>really kind of like, you know, we want to make

0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:46.359
<v Speaker 1>sure that we're keeping certain frequencies free so that we

0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:50.840
<v Speaker 1>can have these these very important transmissions go uninterrupted because

0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:55.240
<v Speaker 1>am transmissions, if you transmit two things on the same frequency,

0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:58.480
<v Speaker 1>you get lots of interference, which is different from there

0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:01.639
<v Speaker 1>was a military on it too. This as well because

0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:04.600
<v Speaker 1>World War One was on the horizon, was happening, and

0:19:06.000 --> 0:19:11.720
<v Speaker 1>they the government banned amateur radio broadcasting during the war

0:19:12.040 --> 0:19:14.399
<v Speaker 1>for you know, the reason that they were trying to

0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:18.400
<v Speaker 1>transmit signals to one another of important nature. If somebody

0:19:18.520 --> 0:19:22.400
<v Speaker 1>was talking in their garage about uh, you know, their

0:19:22.440 --> 0:19:25.840
<v Speaker 1>favorite records or something or young people. Yeah, the ones

0:19:25.880 --> 0:19:28.240
<v Speaker 1>that the young people listened to, they would overlap and

0:19:28.280 --> 0:19:30.520
<v Speaker 1>they wouldn't get these important messages. So they shut it

0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:34.600
<v Speaker 1>all down. And also just radio detection to the the

0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:39.359
<v Speaker 1>remote possibility that they might detect radio transmissions from either

0:19:39.440 --> 0:19:45.000
<v Speaker 1>allies or enemies. It would mean that before they had Yeah, yeah,

0:19:45.080 --> 0:19:47.760
<v Speaker 1>this is this is before the whole Bletchley park On

0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:50.440
<v Speaker 1>Dygma thing, which is I've talked about that in the

0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:53.719
<v Speaker 1>previous episode of tex stuff. But fascinating story. So nineteen

0:19:53.800 --> 0:19:58.159
<v Speaker 1>fourteen Edwin Armstrong, who's going to be important throughout this conversation,

0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:01.600
<v Speaker 1>and his story is a ma using and tragic. Uh.

0:20:01.720 --> 0:20:05.800
<v Speaker 1>He patents a radio receiver circuit that increases the selectivity

0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:08.600
<v Speaker 1>which allows you to tune into specific frequencies and the

0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:11.960
<v Speaker 1>sensitivity of radio receivers. That means it was able to

0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:16.160
<v Speaker 1>pick up weaker radio signals than previous receivers. So selectivity

0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:18.359
<v Speaker 1>obviously very important. You want to be able to say

0:20:18.520 --> 0:20:21.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at this particular band of frequencies and I

0:20:22.000 --> 0:20:25.600
<v Speaker 1>don't want anything outside of that um and we would

0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:28.000
<v Speaker 1>see that get better and better. In en he would

0:20:28.080 --> 0:20:34.480
<v Speaker 1>invent the super heterodyne radio receiver or superhead. So this

0:20:34.600 --> 0:20:37.399
<v Speaker 1>principle is actually really fascinating, and I gotta admit to you,

0:20:37.440 --> 0:20:41.320
<v Speaker 1>a Christian, I had to really sit down and read

0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:43.200
<v Speaker 1>this a few times to kind of get what was

0:20:43.240 --> 0:20:47.399
<v Speaker 1>going on. Yeah, because I mean this is radio electromagnetic

0:20:47.440 --> 0:20:51.679
<v Speaker 1>and radio broadcast I have a basic understanding of it,

0:20:51.680 --> 0:20:54.160
<v Speaker 1>but it does go well beyond what I studied in school.

0:20:54.640 --> 0:20:56.400
<v Speaker 1>And it took a while, but now I think I've

0:20:56.440 --> 0:20:58.400
<v Speaker 1>got to explain it to me, because yeah, I'm more

0:20:58.440 --> 0:21:01.560
<v Speaker 1>of the on the side of the leg cultural examination

0:21:01.600 --> 0:21:06.040
<v Speaker 1>of radio, whereas like the technology of it escapes me sometimes,

0:21:06.040 --> 0:21:09.680
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, hit me. All right. Let's say, let's say

0:21:09.720 --> 0:21:14.160
<v Speaker 1>I want to transmit a radio signal at a high frequency,

0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:16.720
<v Speaker 1>so it's not going to interfere with anything else, but

0:21:16.920 --> 0:21:21.399
<v Speaker 1>that processing high frequencies is a little tricky, So you

0:21:21.480 --> 0:21:25.040
<v Speaker 1>might have a receiver that can process frequencies up to

0:21:25.880 --> 0:21:30.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna take an arbitrary number hurts. But I

0:21:30.359 --> 0:21:34.840
<v Speaker 1>want to transmit at five hundred killer hurts. If I

0:21:34.880 --> 0:21:38.919
<v Speaker 1>were to introduce that frequency to an oscillator tuned to

0:21:39.040 --> 0:21:44.640
<v Speaker 1>a different frequency, suddenly I would be able to receive that. Uh,

0:21:44.680 --> 0:21:47.240
<v Speaker 1>not just at the original frequency I transmit at, but

0:21:47.320 --> 0:21:51.679
<v Speaker 1>the difference between that and the oscillating one. So another

0:21:51.800 --> 0:21:55.200
<v Speaker 1>easy example, let's say they have an oscillating frequency at

0:21:55.240 --> 0:21:59.320
<v Speaker 1>a thousand killer hurts. Okay, that would mean that if

0:21:59.359 --> 0:22:05.000
<v Speaker 1>you use a receiver tuned to five killer hurts, killer hurts,

0:22:05.160 --> 0:22:08.120
<v Speaker 1>or two thousand five Killer Hurts. You would pick up

0:22:08.320 --> 0:22:11.280
<v Speaker 1>that signal and could process it. Okay, So and I'm

0:22:11.320 --> 0:22:14.639
<v Speaker 1>imagining that this is a process that's still used today. Yeah.

0:22:14.720 --> 0:22:18.639
<v Speaker 1>This is the principle of transmitting and and receiving with

0:22:18.760 --> 0:22:20.959
<v Speaker 1>a radios so that your radio doesn't have to have

0:22:21.359 --> 0:22:25.159
<v Speaker 1>as wide a spectrum. It's called interminute frequency. And it

0:22:25.200 --> 0:22:27.159
<v Speaker 1>took me a long time to figure out what was

0:22:27.200 --> 0:22:29.440
<v Speaker 1>going on. Is the oscillator that was throwing me off?

0:22:29.480 --> 0:22:31.480
<v Speaker 1>And then I realized, oh, the oscillators tuned to a

0:22:31.480 --> 0:22:34.800
<v Speaker 1>different frequency, and that's what gives you the broader range

0:22:34.920 --> 0:22:38.600
<v Speaker 1>that you can pick up. It's pretty fascinating. And again

0:22:38.720 --> 0:22:42.239
<v Speaker 1>Armstrong was absolutely brilliant coming up with this. Uh. And

0:22:42.280 --> 0:22:45.119
<v Speaker 1>then we move up to the nineteen twenties. Yeah, and

0:22:45.200 --> 0:22:47.639
<v Speaker 1>the twenties is when this educational stuff that I was

0:22:47.680 --> 0:22:49.760
<v Speaker 1>talking about earlier it really hits a boom. There was

0:22:49.800 --> 0:22:53.720
<v Speaker 1>like more than two hundred educational organizations across the United

0:22:53.720 --> 0:22:57.919
<v Speaker 1>States of America that, uh, we're requesting broadcasting licenses so

0:22:57.960 --> 0:23:01.879
<v Speaker 1>that they could transmit, and whether they were using it

0:23:01.920 --> 0:23:04.920
<v Speaker 1>as a an opportunity for their students to learn about

0:23:04.960 --> 0:23:09.200
<v Speaker 1>the technology or to broadcast educational information, it didn't really matter.

0:23:09.560 --> 0:23:12.640
<v Speaker 1>The unfortunate thing is that thirteen years later, by nine

0:23:13.240 --> 0:23:18.920
<v Speaker 1>three or more of these educational institutions had folded and

0:23:18.920 --> 0:23:21.120
<v Speaker 1>and basically it was because of and this is going

0:23:21.119 --> 0:23:23.320
<v Speaker 1>to be a huge theme of this episode, because of

0:23:24.080 --> 0:23:28.120
<v Speaker 1>ad based programming and stronger stations, commercial stations that were

0:23:28.119 --> 0:23:32.960
<v Speaker 1>able to overlap their signal. Yeah, you essentially had not

0:23:33.080 --> 0:23:37.120
<v Speaker 1>just the fact that the companies had more technological behind them,

0:23:37.240 --> 0:23:41.199
<v Speaker 1>but that the government was favoring those over the educational ones.

0:23:41.840 --> 0:23:45.120
<v Speaker 1>When we get into a little bit more about the politics,

0:23:45.320 --> 0:23:48.000
<v Speaker 1>you're going to hear that repeated a few times, and

0:23:48.040 --> 0:23:51.600
<v Speaker 1>it's it's a little upsetting, honestly. And I also i'd

0:23:51.640 --> 0:23:54.679
<v Speaker 1>like to say, like, it's interesting because, despite whatever my

0:23:54.720 --> 0:23:58.239
<v Speaker 1>political beliefs are reading. One of the articles that we

0:23:58.400 --> 0:24:01.360
<v Speaker 1>used as as research for this was written in nineteen

0:24:02.440 --> 0:24:06.280
<v Speaker 1>from the perspective of somebody at Harvard University looking back

0:24:06.320 --> 0:24:10.880
<v Speaker 1>at the Federal Radio Radio Commission before it turned into

0:24:10.880 --> 0:24:13.520
<v Speaker 1>the FCC that we have now and kind of just

0:24:13.600 --> 0:24:15.960
<v Speaker 1>doing a broad review of the last like ten years

0:24:16.000 --> 0:24:20.399
<v Speaker 1>of this. And it's very very similar and reminiscent of

0:24:20.480 --> 0:24:23.000
<v Speaker 1>arguments that we've seen with media throughout the last hundred

0:24:23.080 --> 0:24:26.240
<v Speaker 1>years and that we're seeing right now in arguments about

0:24:26.240 --> 0:24:30.000
<v Speaker 1>net neutrality. Yeah, it's really similar to net neutrality, the

0:24:30.040 --> 0:24:33.600
<v Speaker 1>idea being that everyone should be free to use the

0:24:33.600 --> 0:24:38.639
<v Speaker 1>Internet to send and receive whatever information they want. In radio,

0:24:38.920 --> 0:24:41.520
<v Speaker 1>we saw the same argument, except in that case radio,

0:24:41.600 --> 0:24:44.600
<v Speaker 1>it was it ended up being that those folks were

0:24:44.680 --> 0:24:48.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of pushed away and that the the the corporations,

0:24:48.840 --> 0:24:51.439
<v Speaker 1>the companies that had the money were the ones that

0:24:51.560 --> 0:24:54.600
<v Speaker 1>had the voice. Yeah, and and so like you know,

0:24:54.640 --> 0:24:57.440
<v Speaker 1>as we're talking earlier, there's these amateur radio stations, right,

0:24:57.440 --> 0:24:59.840
<v Speaker 1>and they here's the kind of content you might find

0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:03.199
<v Speaker 1>an amateur radio stations. Maybe somebody's giving a sermon, or

0:25:03.240 --> 0:25:05.720
<v Speaker 1>they're they're they're just reading out of their Bible, or

0:25:05.760 --> 0:25:10.640
<v Speaker 1>they're talking about sports out of today's newspaper, updating their

0:25:10.640 --> 0:25:13.640
<v Speaker 1>neighborhood on what happened in sports around the country that day.

0:25:14.359 --> 0:25:16.880
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they're reading a poem, maybe they're giving a speech

0:25:16.920 --> 0:25:21.000
<v Speaker 1>about something political at the time, perhaps the usage of radio,

0:25:21.960 --> 0:25:26.199
<v Speaker 1>or like we were talking earlier, just playing records and

0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:29.080
<v Speaker 1>at the time, there was no you know, licensing or

0:25:29.080 --> 0:25:33.240
<v Speaker 1>copyright and effect for for how music was broadcasted. So

0:25:33.560 --> 0:25:35.399
<v Speaker 1>they could just throw any record on and kind of

0:25:35.600 --> 0:25:38.480
<v Speaker 1>entertain the neighborhood. Right in a way, you can think

0:25:38.480 --> 0:25:41.280
<v Speaker 1>of it as like the predecessor of blogs. Yeah, you

0:25:41.280 --> 0:25:43.919
<v Speaker 1>know it really in a in a real way it was.

0:25:44.760 --> 0:25:48.840
<v Speaker 1>And uh, this was amazing. This was an ability for

0:25:48.920 --> 0:25:51.560
<v Speaker 1>someone to have a platform to have their voice heard.

0:25:51.960 --> 0:25:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Some people made very good use of that. Some people

0:25:55.119 --> 0:25:58.800
<v Speaker 1>may you may think, made frivolous use of it, just

0:25:59.080 --> 0:26:03.960
<v Speaker 1>like well, sure, yeah, exactly. And that's just like blogging,

0:26:04.640 --> 0:26:07.159
<v Speaker 1>except for for people like us, I suppose who do

0:26:07.200 --> 0:26:10.440
<v Speaker 1>get paid to do it. Uh, A lot of these

0:26:10.840 --> 0:26:13.800
<v Speaker 1>these amateur radioists that they weren't getting paid for this.

0:26:13.840 --> 0:26:15.520
<v Speaker 1>They had day jobs. In fact, Like one of the

0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:18.040
<v Speaker 1>stories I read was about how there's this guy who

0:26:18.119 --> 0:26:20.639
<v Speaker 1>ran a gas station, but he also had a radio

0:26:20.640 --> 0:26:22.720
<v Speaker 1>station running out of his gas station, and so he'd

0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:24.720
<v Speaker 1>be on air and then he'd say, hold on a minute,

0:26:24.720 --> 0:26:28.080
<v Speaker 1>I have to go, uh sell some gas, and he'd go.

0:26:28.200 --> 0:26:31.120
<v Speaker 1>He'd disappeared for five minutes, and they'd come back and

0:26:31.160 --> 0:26:34.000
<v Speaker 1>just pick up again. And that was just how it is.

0:26:34.040 --> 0:26:37.720
<v Speaker 1>They didn't really worry about dead air or anything like that. Yeah. Um.

0:26:37.840 --> 0:26:40.040
<v Speaker 1>And and at the same time, there's also this other,

0:26:40.119 --> 0:26:43.000
<v Speaker 1>like broader, more important thing, which I think is why

0:26:43.960 --> 0:26:46.280
<v Speaker 1>the government started to become more involved in it, which

0:26:46.320 --> 0:26:50.560
<v Speaker 1>is that radio allowed the listeners to sample other cultures

0:26:51.000 --> 0:26:54.880
<v Speaker 1>from far away states, that and and and learn more

0:26:54.920 --> 0:26:57.959
<v Speaker 1>about what this kind of idea of America as a

0:26:58.119 --> 0:27:00.840
<v Speaker 1>nation meant. You know, even though they may have never

0:27:00.960 --> 0:27:05.080
<v Speaker 1>visited Nebraska, they would be hearing what these amateur radioists

0:27:05.119 --> 0:27:08.320
<v Speaker 1>in Nebraska were talking about. They were giving them sort

0:27:08.320 --> 0:27:11.719
<v Speaker 1>of a peek into what the culture in those towns were. Like,

0:27:11.840 --> 0:27:16.520
<v Speaker 1>it's really cool. Yeah, yeah, absolutely yeah. Moving over to

0:27:16.520 --> 0:27:19.000
<v Speaker 1>to nineteen twenty, that's when we get the first commercial

0:27:19.080 --> 0:27:22.680
<v Speaker 1>radio station launching. That's k d K A. Now, amateur

0:27:22.760 --> 0:27:25.160
<v Speaker 1>radio stations, like Christian was saying, had already been around,

0:27:25.320 --> 0:27:28.240
<v Speaker 1>and a guy named Henry P. Davis was inspired by

0:27:28.280 --> 0:27:31.480
<v Speaker 1>an amateur named Frank Conrad and saw the potential to

0:27:31.480 --> 0:27:34.480
<v Speaker 1>actually make some money off this whole radio thing, and

0:27:34.520 --> 0:27:36.879
<v Speaker 1>not just not just broadcast out for free, but to

0:27:36.960 --> 0:27:40.680
<v Speaker 1>actually make it a commercial enterprise. So the radio station

0:27:40.720 --> 0:27:44.040
<v Speaker 1>went live on November two, nineteen twenty. Henry P. Davis

0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:46.760
<v Speaker 1>himself read out the results of the presidential elections on

0:27:46.800 --> 0:27:52.320
<v Speaker 1>the air, and he would become heavily involved in broadcast radio,

0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:56.199
<v Speaker 1>in fact becoming the first chairman of the National Broadcasting

0:27:56.320 --> 0:28:03.920
<v Speaker 1>Company also known as NBC. So yeah, exactly. Yeah. Then

0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:07.080
<v Speaker 1>the opening of thirty Rock in NINETI kt k A

0:28:07.280 --> 0:28:11.440
<v Speaker 1>was owned and operated by Westinghouse Electric and Manufacturing Company,

0:28:11.560 --> 0:28:14.320
<v Speaker 1>and you might not be surprised to hear that Westinghouse

0:28:14.440 --> 0:28:17.440
<v Speaker 1>used the radio station as a means of convincing people

0:28:17.480 --> 0:28:20.639
<v Speaker 1>to go out and buy radios, because up to this point,

0:28:20.920 --> 0:28:23.200
<v Speaker 1>again it was very much an amateur thing. People who

0:28:23.240 --> 0:28:26.360
<v Speaker 1>were interested in the science would go out and get

0:28:26.440 --> 0:28:29.600
<v Speaker 1>the equipment or build the equipment from from whatever they could,

0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:32.800
<v Speaker 1>and that's how they participated. But now we're talking about

0:28:32.840 --> 0:28:35.480
<v Speaker 1>actually making commercial radio sets for people to go out

0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:37.840
<v Speaker 1>and buy. And this is also the beginning of things

0:28:37.880 --> 0:28:40.600
<v Speaker 1>starting to get a little dodgy on the corporate side

0:28:40.600 --> 0:28:45.440
<v Speaker 1>of things, because previously the patents for radios were all

0:28:45.440 --> 0:28:48.640
<v Speaker 1>over the place. But what happened was the big companies

0:28:48.800 --> 0:28:51.840
<v Speaker 1>G E, A, T and T. Weird, they're such a

0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:55.840
<v Speaker 1>familiar it is, G, A, T and T. International Radio

0:28:55.840 --> 0:28:58.680
<v Speaker 1>and Telegraph and Westinghouse all got together and said, let's

0:28:58.720 --> 0:29:03.080
<v Speaker 1>pull together our patent and they created r C A

0:29:03.120 --> 0:29:06.480
<v Speaker 1>the Radio Corporation of America for the express purpose of

0:29:06.480 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 1>allowing them to build and sell radio equipment like transmitters

0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:14.600
<v Speaker 1>and receivers that were designed not for broadcast broadcast but

0:29:14.680 --> 0:29:19.560
<v Speaker 1>for for telegraphing, but also to keep these amateur radio

0:29:21.440 --> 0:29:24.000
<v Speaker 1>out of business physically, so that they couldn't just go

0:29:24.120 --> 0:29:27.120
<v Speaker 1>and buy an out of the box kit anymore. They

0:29:27.120 --> 0:29:29.400
<v Speaker 1>would have to they would have to really build it themselves.

0:29:29.800 --> 0:29:33.680
<v Speaker 1>R c A flexed its muscles in ways that I

0:29:33.720 --> 0:29:38.000
<v Speaker 1>think just about anyone would describe as odious and uh

0:29:38.000 --> 0:29:41.280
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of the stories we're gonna cover, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:44.280
<v Speaker 1>um and and what's kind of interesting is just that,

0:29:44.440 --> 0:29:46.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, there's there's this other article that I read

0:29:46.960 --> 0:29:50.360
<v Speaker 1>for this that was called The Design of Symbiosis that

0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:53.800
<v Speaker 1>was all about, you know, the the longevity of radio

0:29:53.880 --> 0:29:56.560
<v Speaker 1>and then these corporations interacting. And there's a quote from

0:29:56.560 --> 0:29:59.200
<v Speaker 1>it that I want to read, which is about this

0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:01.960
<v Speaker 1>specific thing. It says it was no accident that the

0:30:02.040 --> 0:30:06.720
<v Speaker 1>General Electric Corporation g after acquiring rights to the Marconi

0:30:06.800 --> 0:30:10.479
<v Speaker 1>wireless patents in the United States, spearheaded the formation of

0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:14.000
<v Speaker 1>the r c A, which in turn launched the National

0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:19.080
<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting corporation NBC one of GS many subsidiaries. It still is,

0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:23.880
<v Speaker 1>I believe right, Well again he got Universal Yeah great, Yeah,

0:30:24.000 --> 0:30:26.720
<v Speaker 1>it's even larger than that and a leading content company.

0:30:26.960 --> 0:30:29.600
<v Speaker 1>So it's like one thing led to another, from one

0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:32.040
<v Speaker 1>corporation to the next. Is they kind of built out

0:30:32.080 --> 0:30:35.360
<v Speaker 1>their their subsidiaries and spread their spread out kind of

0:30:35.400 --> 0:30:38.280
<v Speaker 1>like an umbrella and it and it. Don't get me wrong,

0:30:38.280 --> 0:30:42.200
<v Speaker 1>this wasn't all negative. They were very positive effects at

0:30:42.240 --> 0:30:49.240
<v Speaker 1>the time as well. From this, I love that you

0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:52.400
<v Speaker 1>have this bit about a T and T and their

0:30:52.840 --> 0:30:55.520
<v Speaker 1>their business strategy. This is one of the so apparently

0:30:55.560 --> 0:31:01.600
<v Speaker 1>they like repeatedly, we're trying to charge people for commercial

0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:04.520
<v Speaker 1>broadcasting over their sets, and they wanted to charge tolls

0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:06.440
<v Speaker 1>in the same way that they were charging people for

0:31:06.520 --> 0:31:09.120
<v Speaker 1>phone calls, which I think is amazing when you when

0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:11.680
<v Speaker 1>you think about it, you know, there's just these these

0:31:11.760 --> 0:31:16.360
<v Speaker 1>negotiations between the public and the large corporations. When these

0:31:16.400 --> 0:31:20.480
<v Speaker 1>new media hit the scene and we're in we're experiencing

0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:22.680
<v Speaker 1>it right now, we'll probably always be experiencing it. Yeah,

0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:25.680
<v Speaker 1>I imagine so, And it's interesting to you. You make

0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:30.320
<v Speaker 1>a delineation in our notes about how how the radio

0:31:30.360 --> 0:31:35.440
<v Speaker 1>system is treated in America versus in other nations, right, Yeah,

0:31:35.560 --> 0:31:39.320
<v Speaker 1>So the thing that's unique about the American radio system.

0:31:39.360 --> 0:31:42.760
<v Speaker 1>This isn't to say that that no other countries did this,

0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:46.320
<v Speaker 1>but the American radio system specifically evolved as a unique

0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:49.840
<v Speaker 1>combination between private enterprises like these ones that we were

0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:53.440
<v Speaker 1>just talking about, in government regulation, whereas in other countries,

0:31:53.880 --> 0:31:56.840
<v Speaker 1>for the most part, it went for public ownership. So

0:31:56.920 --> 0:32:01.920
<v Speaker 1>places like Iceland, the United Kingdom obviously with the BBC, Italy, Turkey,

0:32:01.960 --> 0:32:07.160
<v Speaker 1>and the USS are it was all public. Um. And

0:32:07.560 --> 0:32:10.840
<v Speaker 1>so the problem that radio had that was unique in

0:32:10.880 --> 0:32:14.719
<v Speaker 1>America was that all of these consumers could receive any

0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:18.800
<v Speaker 1>signal at equal equality, very much like again blogging right

0:32:20.080 --> 0:32:24.600
<v Speaker 1>in theory, and that any broadcaster, however, whether it's NBC

0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:27.760
<v Speaker 1>or a guy operating out of his garage, would be

0:32:27.760 --> 0:32:32.080
<v Speaker 1>able to overwhelm multiple frequencies and overwrite what was being

0:32:32.120 --> 0:32:36.680
<v Speaker 1>played by somebody else's broadcast. Yeah, the very least you

0:32:36.680 --> 0:32:40.440
<v Speaker 1>could interfere with the signal. Um. We'll talk about FM

0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:42.720
<v Speaker 1>and a little bit. The interesting difference, one of the

0:32:42.760 --> 0:32:45.680
<v Speaker 1>many interesting differences between a M and FM is that

0:32:45.720 --> 0:32:49.240
<v Speaker 1>if you have two AM broadcasts that are coming out

0:32:49.280 --> 0:32:51.680
<v Speaker 1>at the same signal. They interfere with one another the

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:55.040
<v Speaker 1>same frequency, should say, they interfere with one other FM.

0:32:55.080 --> 0:32:57.920
<v Speaker 1>If you have two of the same frequency, it's whichever

0:32:58.080 --> 0:33:01.280
<v Speaker 1>frequency is the most powerful is the one you will receive.

0:33:01.880 --> 0:33:07.080
<v Speaker 1>So you could have a little station that is broadcasting

0:33:07.080 --> 0:33:09.600
<v Speaker 1>in a very small amount of power that if you

0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:11.640
<v Speaker 1>are close to it, you would be able to pick

0:33:11.680 --> 0:33:14.520
<v Speaker 1>it up on an FM band that would normally be

0:33:14.800 --> 0:33:17.640
<v Speaker 1>for a radio station that mean miles away. That could

0:33:17.640 --> 0:33:20.360
<v Speaker 1>be a giant corporations one. So there's a lot of

0:33:20.400 --> 0:33:22.920
<v Speaker 1>back and forth with this too, which is today we

0:33:22.960 --> 0:33:24.600
<v Speaker 1>think of this. You and I were talking about this

0:33:24.640 --> 0:33:26.800
<v Speaker 1>the other day when we proposed this idea. We think

0:33:26.840 --> 0:33:29.360
<v Speaker 1>of it as pirate radio, right, and I think I

0:33:29.360 --> 0:33:32.800
<v Speaker 1>always think of pup up the volume. Yeah, and Christians

0:33:32.880 --> 0:33:35.880
<v Speaker 1>later driving around his neighborhood with his his pirate radio

0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:38.560
<v Speaker 1>station at the back of his car. Yeah, it's also similar.

0:33:38.600 --> 0:33:42.000
<v Speaker 1>I did a story with Chuck Bryant about it was

0:33:42.080 --> 0:33:45.360
<v Speaker 1>television not radio, but the same same principle, uh the

0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:50.040
<v Speaker 1>Max Headroom incident where in Chicago that was also the

0:33:50.120 --> 0:33:52.600
<v Speaker 1>same principle as FM radio, and that if you were

0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:55.360
<v Speaker 1>able to send a signal along the same frequency but

0:33:55.400 --> 0:33:58.400
<v Speaker 1>at a higher power rate. Then you could overpower that

0:33:58.520 --> 0:34:02.680
<v Speaker 1>and people would receive yours, no, not someone else's. Yeah.

0:34:02.760 --> 0:34:06.080
<v Speaker 1>But and so as these these conflicts are going on,

0:34:06.120 --> 0:34:10.480
<v Speaker 1>these like weird ven diagrams of stations playing up against

0:34:10.480 --> 0:34:14.120
<v Speaker 1>one another, the government starts to become interested, as we

0:34:14.280 --> 0:34:17.960
<v Speaker 1>as we've talked about, and especially because of military reasons.

0:34:17.960 --> 0:34:20.239
<v Speaker 1>So the Navy says, you know what, we should really

0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:22.720
<v Speaker 1>take control of this as a means of national defense.

0:34:22.880 --> 0:34:24.359
<v Speaker 1>And the way that they thought it should be run

0:34:24.400 --> 0:34:27.319
<v Speaker 1>was basically like the post office, that the you know,

0:34:27.440 --> 0:34:32.239
<v Speaker 1>the federal government should own and control what is broadcast

0:34:32.360 --> 0:34:35.440
<v Speaker 1>on radio signals. Obviously that that didn't end up happening,

0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:39.359
<v Speaker 1>But then you get this huge boom because of the

0:34:39.400 --> 0:34:43.440
<v Speaker 1>amateur radio movement. From nineteen to nineteen twenty three, the

0:34:43.520 --> 0:34:46.440
<v Speaker 1>number of radio sets in America increased from sixty thousand

0:34:46.480 --> 0:34:52.279
<v Speaker 1>to one point five millions. That's a huge, massive and

0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:55.799
<v Speaker 1>uh in in nineteen twenty two there were twenty eight

0:34:56.000 --> 0:34:58.719
<v Speaker 1>stations in operation, but I think it like exploded to

0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:04.279
<v Speaker 1>hundreds very quickly. Um and then enter the scene a

0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:07.800
<v Speaker 1>little guy named Herbert Hoover, who was at the time

0:35:07.840 --> 0:35:10.680
<v Speaker 1>the Secretary of Commerce, right, and the and the Department

0:35:10.680 --> 0:35:14.680
<v Speaker 1>of Commerce oversaw radio at this time. Yeah, yeah, And

0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:17.759
<v Speaker 1>he was really the initiative of that idea. He was

0:35:17.800 --> 0:35:22.920
<v Speaker 1>the one who said, uh, you know, uh, he really

0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:25.799
<v Speaker 1>wanted the Department of Commerce to control it first of all.

0:35:25.960 --> 0:35:29.080
<v Speaker 1>But he also said, and this is another quote, he said,

0:35:29.120 --> 0:35:32.600
<v Speaker 1>at first, the idea of making money off radio seem profane.

0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:36.040
<v Speaker 1>It is inconceivable that we should allow so great a

0:35:36.080 --> 0:35:39.759
<v Speaker 1>possibility for service, for news, for entertainment, and for vital

0:35:39.800 --> 0:35:44.080
<v Speaker 1>commercial purposes to be drowned in advertising chatter. This is

0:35:44.120 --> 0:35:47.840
<v Speaker 1>Herbert Hoover who subsequently ends up using the government to

0:35:47.920 --> 0:35:53.720
<v Speaker 1>support the businesses uh in terms of businesses over amateur

0:35:53.840 --> 0:35:58.160
<v Speaker 1>radio stations, uh in terms of their licensing. And his

0:35:58.200 --> 0:36:00.360
<v Speaker 1>other analogy for radio was that he thought of it

0:36:00.400 --> 0:36:03.640
<v Speaker 1>as transportation, rather than the the post office analogy that

0:36:03.680 --> 0:36:05.480
<v Speaker 1>the Navy was using. He thought it was like, we

0:36:05.480 --> 0:36:07.960
<v Speaker 1>should think of them as like water ways, and that

0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:11.160
<v Speaker 1>the public should be be able to ride these waterways,

0:36:11.200 --> 0:36:13.560
<v Speaker 1>but that the government would regulate how they did. So.

0:36:15.000 --> 0:36:18.040
<v Speaker 1>I like this this message here too, of the We're

0:36:18.120 --> 0:36:22.520
<v Speaker 1>one of the world's first radio ads aired on August two,

0:36:23.360 --> 0:36:27.359
<v Speaker 1>UH for a housing development in Queens. Yeah. Yeah, this

0:36:27.440 --> 0:36:31.440
<v Speaker 1>is the They were basically like, um, advocating what we

0:36:31.440 --> 0:36:35.000
<v Speaker 1>would now call gentrification or like get this is a

0:36:35.040 --> 0:36:37.800
<v Speaker 1>quote from that ad get away from the solid masses

0:36:37.840 --> 0:36:40.520
<v Speaker 1>of brick, where children grow up starved for a run

0:36:40.560 --> 0:36:44.560
<v Speaker 1>over a patch of grass. But my child's never seen

0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:48.319
<v Speaker 1>what a tree looks like. A queen. This is the

0:36:48.360 --> 0:36:51.919
<v Speaker 1>first thing that we we sold on radio. That's hilarious. Yeah.

0:36:52.800 --> 0:36:56.600
<v Speaker 1>But so Hoover goes on in two he calls together

0:36:56.640 --> 0:36:59.560
<v Speaker 1>the first American Radio Conference, which is he brings together

0:36:59.640 --> 0:37:02.680
<v Speaker 1>represent otives from and I put this in quote radio

0:37:02.800 --> 0:37:05.799
<v Speaker 1>industry because it really wasn't an industry, you know, it's

0:37:05.920 --> 0:37:09.239
<v Speaker 1>just kind of and and this included not only you know,

0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:12.600
<v Speaker 1>the businesses that had interests in mind, but also the

0:37:12.640 --> 0:37:17.080
<v Speaker 1>amateur radio operators. And no action was taken. Uh, there

0:37:17.080 --> 0:37:20.040
<v Speaker 1>were calls for legislation they introduced to build a congress.

0:37:20.080 --> 0:37:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Congress is like, no, we don't want to have anything

0:37:21.920 --> 0:37:24.640
<v Speaker 1>to do with this. And there's political reasons behind that

0:37:24.640 --> 0:37:27.799
<v Speaker 1>that I'll get into later. Um. But then by nine

0:37:29.080 --> 0:37:33.239
<v Speaker 1>we've got fourteen hundred radio stations, not just what did

0:37:33.280 --> 0:37:38.280
<v Speaker 1>I say? Yeah, And so you've got these big commercial

0:37:38.320 --> 0:37:42.439
<v Speaker 1>broadcasters that are forming networks like NBC and CBS, both

0:37:42.440 --> 0:37:47.759
<v Speaker 1>of them they formed in seven respectively. Uh, and it's

0:37:48.040 --> 0:37:51.960
<v Speaker 1>very similar today to the same that NBC and CBS

0:37:52.000 --> 0:37:55.560
<v Speaker 1>that we understand as being television. Right now, now I've

0:37:55.600 --> 0:37:58.960
<v Speaker 1>got the beginning of one of the weirdest stories I've

0:37:58.960 --> 0:38:02.120
<v Speaker 1>ever heard. This guy is my favorite. I think you

0:38:02.120 --> 0:38:04.440
<v Speaker 1>should do a whole episode about this. I could easily

0:38:04.480 --> 0:38:06.600
<v Speaker 1>do a whole episode about this guy. And and he's

0:38:06.640 --> 0:38:11.840
<v Speaker 1>going to pepper through parts of the rest of this episode.

0:38:11.840 --> 0:38:14.520
<v Speaker 1>So Ninete is what we're talking about here. We're going

0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:16.760
<v Speaker 1>back just a little bit too to set the stage.

0:38:17.080 --> 0:38:21.680
<v Speaker 1>That's when doctor using in quotes, John R. Brinkley starts

0:38:21.760 --> 0:38:24.520
<v Speaker 1>up a radio station called kf KB in Kansas. So

0:38:26.120 --> 0:38:29.440
<v Speaker 1>let me tell you about doctor Brinkley. First of all,

0:38:29.440 --> 0:38:31.840
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't a real doctor. He's like the original snake

0:38:31.840 --> 0:38:35.000
<v Speaker 1>oil salesman. He he at least perfected it to an

0:38:35.080 --> 0:38:38.640
<v Speaker 1>art form. Right. He went to medical school by never graduated,

0:38:39.040 --> 0:38:41.799
<v Speaker 1>but he bought a diploma from a diploma mill for

0:38:41.920 --> 0:38:46.600
<v Speaker 1>five hundred dollars, not an insignificant amount of money. Uh,

0:38:46.600 --> 0:38:48.880
<v Speaker 1>and it gave him the right to practice medicine in

0:38:48.920 --> 0:38:54.359
<v Speaker 1>some states, including Kansas. He purchased diploma, not not an

0:38:54.400 --> 0:38:58.120
<v Speaker 1>actual like proof that he had the training that would

0:38:58.120 --> 0:39:01.560
<v Speaker 1>allow him to do this. So anyway, he starts practicing medicine.

0:39:02.000 --> 0:39:05.240
<v Speaker 1>He had previously been involved in some scams and cons,

0:39:05.360 --> 0:39:08.759
<v Speaker 1>including things like selling tinted water as if it were

0:39:08.760 --> 0:39:13.919
<v Speaker 1>an actual medicinal cure and injecting it into people. But

0:39:14.719 --> 0:39:16.839
<v Speaker 1>I want to see a movie about this guy's life.

0:39:16.880 --> 0:39:18.640
<v Speaker 1>I want to I want to see a movie. I

0:39:18.640 --> 0:39:20.239
<v Speaker 1>want to see a movie about this guy. I want

0:39:20.280 --> 0:39:23.000
<v Speaker 1>to see him cast. I want I want Simon Peg

0:39:23.080 --> 0:39:28.160
<v Speaker 1>to play him. He's just like deviously injecting things into

0:39:28.200 --> 0:39:30.520
<v Speaker 1>people and cutting open their necks. I think I think

0:39:30.560 --> 0:39:33.399
<v Speaker 1>either Simon Peg or Neil Patrick Harris that would be Yeah,

0:39:33.440 --> 0:39:36.040
<v Speaker 1>he would be good. It's like evil Dookie Houser. Yeah.

0:39:36.520 --> 0:39:38.959
<v Speaker 1>So he had he had been hired as a house

0:39:39.000 --> 0:39:41.400
<v Speaker 1>doctor for a meat packing company, and he observed the

0:39:41.560 --> 0:39:46.160
<v Speaker 1>rigorous mating habits of goats. Uh yeah, So let's slow

0:39:46.200 --> 0:39:49.080
<v Speaker 1>down for a second. People, This means that he watched

0:39:49.200 --> 0:39:54.480
<v Speaker 1>goats have sex for a long time and and enthusiastically

0:39:54.640 --> 0:39:56.520
<v Speaker 1>the goats. At least I don't know about him, but

0:39:56.560 --> 0:39:59.680
<v Speaker 1>the goats were certainly enthusiastics. So he was talking to

0:39:59.760 --> 0:40:02.879
<v Speaker 1>him mail patient once about the fact that the mail

0:40:02.880 --> 0:40:05.680
<v Speaker 1>patient was having problems in the bedroom. He was having

0:40:05.680 --> 0:40:10.040
<v Speaker 1>a failing libido, a rectile dysfunction. Perhaps the the actual

0:40:10.960 --> 0:40:15.080
<v Speaker 1>nature of the problem was not what explained in all

0:40:15.080 --> 0:40:17.600
<v Speaker 1>the sources I looked at, but had something to do

0:40:17.640 --> 0:40:21.920
<v Speaker 1>with failing libido or or um, you know, virility. And

0:40:22.000 --> 0:40:26.200
<v Speaker 1>so supposedly what Dr Brinkley did was jokingly suggest that

0:40:26.239 --> 0:40:30.120
<v Speaker 1>perhaps they should transplate plant some goat quote unquote glands

0:40:30.360 --> 0:40:34.160
<v Speaker 1>as in gonads into the mail patient. And he said,

0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:38.320
<v Speaker 1>let's let's do it. Let's firow up like the original

0:40:38.400 --> 0:40:41.120
<v Speaker 1>body modification. Give me some give me some of them

0:40:41.160 --> 0:40:45.320
<v Speaker 1>goat glands. So he does he actually did start performing this,

0:40:45.440 --> 0:40:48.640
<v Speaker 1>and then he started to suggest like he began to

0:40:48.840 --> 0:40:52.440
<v Speaker 1>essentially advertise, saying, this is a way to restore virility

0:40:52.880 --> 0:40:57.520
<v Speaker 1>for men. Uh, let me do this this medical procedure

0:40:57.600 --> 0:41:01.439
<v Speaker 1>for a not insignificant amount of money. So flash forward

0:41:01.480 --> 0:41:04.720
<v Speaker 1>to when he gets the radio station and he starts

0:41:04.800 --> 0:41:08.560
<v Speaker 1>to fill his broadcast time with music and medical lectures,

0:41:09.200 --> 0:41:12.520
<v Speaker 1>and he would end up advocating for this kind of

0:41:12.560 --> 0:41:17.239
<v Speaker 1>treatment and other treatments that were equally bogus in advertising too. Yeah,

0:41:17.440 --> 0:41:20.880
<v Speaker 1>and he was he was essentially throwing business to surgeons

0:41:20.960 --> 0:41:26.200
<v Speaker 1>into pharmacists and getting kickbacks every single time and making

0:41:27.120 --> 0:41:31.440
<v Speaker 1>a mint off it. So he's in full operation and

0:41:31.560 --> 0:41:36.040
<v Speaker 1>will end up, believe it or not, defining in part

0:41:36.480 --> 0:41:38.960
<v Speaker 1>why radio has regulated the way it is. But we'll

0:41:39.000 --> 0:41:40.680
<v Speaker 1>get to that in a little Yeah, I know, he's

0:41:40.680 --> 0:41:43.320
<v Speaker 1>important to the history of it. Um. In the meantime,

0:41:43.400 --> 0:41:47.720
<v Speaker 1>Hoover is continuing to negotiate with stations and the government

0:41:47.800 --> 0:41:52.040
<v Speaker 1>on how it should be regulated. And you know, basically,

0:41:52.200 --> 0:41:54.880
<v Speaker 1>as the Secretary of Commerce, his work is to let

0:41:54.960 --> 0:41:58.520
<v Speaker 1>the stations work out amongst themselves which frequency is going

0:41:58.600 --> 0:42:01.080
<v Speaker 1>to be used when and how they overlaping. It wasn't

0:42:01.120 --> 0:42:05.279
<v Speaker 1>really you know, handing it out. He wouldn't occasionally make decisions.

0:42:05.920 --> 0:42:09.960
<v Speaker 1>And what happened was in the federal court was like whoa, whoa,

0:42:10.680 --> 0:42:14.360
<v Speaker 1>you don't have this power. And specifically the Attorney General

0:42:14.360 --> 0:42:17.360
<v Speaker 1>of the United States, who you know, was from the

0:42:17.520 --> 0:42:21.239
<v Speaker 1>same administration that the Secretary of Commerce was, decided that

0:42:21.280 --> 0:42:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Hoover didn't have this power, he could not grant permits

0:42:23.840 --> 0:42:26.480
<v Speaker 1>at request, and that all of a sudden, these air

0:42:26.560 --> 0:42:29.720
<v Speaker 1>waves turned into even more of this like wild wild

0:42:29.880 --> 0:42:34.160
<v Speaker 1>West of broadcasting than they already were. Uh. And so

0:42:34.520 --> 0:42:39.040
<v Speaker 1>obviously more regulation is even is necessary. And Coolidge is

0:42:39.080 --> 0:42:41.719
<v Speaker 1>the president of the time. He favors the control by

0:42:41.760 --> 0:42:45.560
<v Speaker 1>the Department of Commerce obviously because it's under his branch,

0:42:46.120 --> 0:42:50.400
<v Speaker 1>and he opposes any kind of commission being formed. The Senate, however,

0:42:50.960 --> 0:42:53.800
<v Speaker 1>didn't like the idea of one man being in control.

0:42:53.880 --> 0:42:55.799
<v Speaker 1>And this is where the political angle comes in, because

0:42:55.800 --> 0:42:58.160
<v Speaker 1>they knew that Herbert Hoover had his eye on the

0:42:58.239 --> 0:43:02.160
<v Speaker 1>presidency and didn't want to give him any political prestige

0:43:02.760 --> 0:43:06.800
<v Speaker 1>for taking care of the radio problem. Interesting and also

0:43:07.000 --> 0:43:11.120
<v Speaker 1>this will probably seem familiar to people following the net

0:43:11.160 --> 0:43:14.239
<v Speaker 1>neutrality arguments, where one of the big problems was the

0:43:14.320 --> 0:43:18.560
<v Speaker 1>FCC had brought a case against Comcast for blocking bit

0:43:18.640 --> 0:43:23.000
<v Speaker 1>torrent traffic. And then the response was you don't have

0:43:23.200 --> 0:43:26.239
<v Speaker 1>authority to tell Comcast what it can and can't do

0:43:26.440 --> 0:43:31.440
<v Speaker 1>because Internet transmissions were a title one classification, not titled

0:43:31.480 --> 0:43:34.640
<v Speaker 1>too uh. And if you want to know more about that,

0:43:34.680 --> 0:43:36.960
<v Speaker 1>you can listen to the title to podcast I did

0:43:37.440 --> 0:43:39.839
<v Speaker 1>and Common Carrier podcast I did from a while back

0:43:39.920 --> 0:43:42.480
<v Speaker 1>to to learn more about it, but just suffice it

0:43:42.560 --> 0:43:45.520
<v Speaker 1>to say that this is something that we've seen before

0:43:45.600 --> 0:43:48.440
<v Speaker 1>and we'll likely see again. I just I think it's

0:43:48.480 --> 0:43:53.960
<v Speaker 1>fascinating that, like the future of this major media uh,

0:43:54.640 --> 0:43:58.400
<v Speaker 1>was decided by people who wanted to screw over a

0:43:58.440 --> 0:44:02.799
<v Speaker 1>political candidate potentially yeah, yeah, and sometimes just people who

0:44:02.840 --> 0:44:07.120
<v Speaker 1>were wanted to screw over inventors. Uh, it's crazy. We'll

0:44:07.160 --> 0:44:10.720
<v Speaker 1>talk more about those two in Congress creates the Federal

0:44:10.880 --> 0:44:15.319
<v Speaker 1>Radio Commission and passes the Radioact of nineteen twenty seven. Now,

0:44:15.400 --> 0:44:17.880
<v Speaker 1>before that time, it was all the Department of Commerce,

0:44:17.960 --> 0:44:20.360
<v Speaker 1>like Christian was saying. So the Commission's job was to

0:44:20.400 --> 0:44:24.239
<v Speaker 1>get radio into shape, and they wanted to have a

0:44:24.320 --> 0:44:26.839
<v Speaker 1>little more power than Department of Commerce, which could grant

0:44:26.880 --> 0:44:30.719
<v Speaker 1>broadcast licenses but couldn't deny a broadcast license. So if

0:44:30.800 --> 0:44:32.800
<v Speaker 1>you requested it, if you did all the things you

0:44:32.840 --> 0:44:34.800
<v Speaker 1>were supposed to do, you would get one. You couldn't

0:44:34.800 --> 0:44:38.880
<v Speaker 1>be told no. So the Federal Radio Commission was supposed

0:44:38.880 --> 0:44:42.399
<v Speaker 1>to be able to say no if it was warranted. Um,

0:44:42.880 --> 0:44:45.160
<v Speaker 1>the question of how they determined how it was warranted

0:44:45.320 --> 0:44:48.839
<v Speaker 1>was something of a problem. And UH. The Act also

0:44:48.920 --> 0:44:52.320
<v Speaker 1>laid out rules for content programming could not have obscene,

0:44:52.560 --> 0:44:55.560
<v Speaker 1>in decent or profane language, and the Commission could and

0:44:55.719 --> 0:44:59.040
<v Speaker 1>did use content as a factor when deciding whether or

0:44:59.080 --> 0:45:03.200
<v Speaker 1>not to renew a broadcast license. So if you were

0:45:04.120 --> 0:45:07.880
<v Speaker 1>broadcasting and not paying a whole attention to those content rules,

0:45:08.640 --> 0:45:11.320
<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't necessarily have your license revoked, but when you

0:45:11.400 --> 0:45:15.200
<v Speaker 1>went back to get your license renewed, you might be denied, right,

0:45:15.280 --> 0:45:18.080
<v Speaker 1>And this makes sense in light of other arguments that

0:45:18.120 --> 0:45:20.440
<v Speaker 1>were going on with media over the you know, the

0:45:20.600 --> 0:45:25.120
<v Speaker 1>twenty years probably surrounding this, both with the cinema and

0:45:25.680 --> 0:45:29.640
<v Speaker 1>I would assume newspapers and comic books as well. Yeah,

0:45:29.719 --> 0:45:35.160
<v Speaker 1>all looking at the government, the government trying to deem

0:45:35.600 --> 0:45:40.080
<v Speaker 1>what was profane or wasn't, but also trying to leave

0:45:40.120 --> 0:45:42.560
<v Speaker 1>it in the public's hands to decide. Yeah, there was

0:45:42.600 --> 0:45:46.319
<v Speaker 1>also a real worry about how far can you rule

0:45:46.400 --> 0:45:50.120
<v Speaker 1>on these things before it becomes censorship, So that, I mean,

0:45:50.160 --> 0:45:52.200
<v Speaker 1>that's a real worry, right, because they didn't want to

0:45:52.239 --> 0:45:58.400
<v Speaker 1>be accused of taking away somebody's right to free speech. Sure, yeah, um,

0:45:58.560 --> 0:46:04.359
<v Speaker 1>And so the FARC Federal Radio Commission, it was really

0:46:04.400 --> 0:46:07.040
<v Speaker 1>just like this compromise, this political compromise, and so the

0:46:07.120 --> 0:46:11.640
<v Speaker 1>idea was like really like they just assumed, they being Congress,

0:46:12.120 --> 0:46:13.879
<v Speaker 1>that it was going to go away after a year

0:46:14.200 --> 0:46:16.479
<v Speaker 1>as part of a political deal basically to keep Hoover

0:46:16.600 --> 0:46:20.800
<v Speaker 1>out of office, and especially because of the commercial radio interests.

0:46:21.000 --> 0:46:24.720
<v Speaker 1>These guys who were lobbying their politicians. Uh, they wanted

0:46:24.760 --> 0:46:27.320
<v Speaker 1>the regulation to go back to the Secretary of Commerce.

0:46:27.360 --> 0:46:30.200
<v Speaker 1>They just didn't want it to be Hoover. Uh. And

0:46:30.480 --> 0:46:33.719
<v Speaker 1>so they and their supporters in Congress would belittle the

0:46:33.840 --> 0:46:37.960
<v Speaker 1>FARC's accomplishments even as they had they had subsequently argued

0:46:38.000 --> 0:46:40.840
<v Speaker 1>that it should exist, and then as it was going along,

0:46:40.880 --> 0:46:43.200
<v Speaker 1>they would say, oh, this is terrible, you're not doing

0:46:43.280 --> 0:46:46.840
<v Speaker 1>a good job. And Uh. The FARC was handicapped by

0:46:46.840 --> 0:46:49.960
<v Speaker 1>a number of things. At the limited financial resources, had

0:46:50.000 --> 0:46:54.239
<v Speaker 1>an inadequate staff. Uh, and as we're talking about here,

0:46:54.280 --> 0:46:57.080
<v Speaker 1>it really didn't have any power authority, and its existence

0:46:57.160 --> 0:46:59.400
<v Speaker 1>was in question from the very day that it was

0:47:00.040 --> 0:47:05.120
<v Speaker 1>it was created. It was like they were constantly on probation. Yeah.

0:47:05.360 --> 0:47:07.919
<v Speaker 1>It was one of those things where, um, they're also

0:47:07.960 --> 0:47:12.879
<v Speaker 1>they're very organization ended up being a problem. So one

0:47:12.920 --> 0:47:15.279
<v Speaker 1>of the things about the FARC was that they were

0:47:15.400 --> 0:47:18.839
<v Speaker 1>organized so that the entire United States was divided into

0:47:19.320 --> 0:47:23.000
<v Speaker 1>two zones. Yeah. They called this sectionalism, and each zone

0:47:23.200 --> 0:47:27.400
<v Speaker 1>was giving given the same number of broadcast licenses essentially

0:47:27.480 --> 0:47:31.520
<v Speaker 1>as every other zone, which you know, from one perspective,

0:47:31.600 --> 0:47:33.920
<v Speaker 1>sounds like it would be fair, like everybody gets the

0:47:33.960 --> 0:47:36.920
<v Speaker 1>same amount, But then you think where's the population distribution.

0:47:37.600 --> 0:47:41.080
<v Speaker 1>The Northeast is very heavily populated and the Southwest is

0:47:41.239 --> 0:47:45.040
<v Speaker 1>very lightly populated, and so you don't have enough broadcast

0:47:45.160 --> 0:47:47.520
<v Speaker 1>licenses for the Northeast and you have too many for

0:47:47.600 --> 0:47:50.719
<v Speaker 1>the Southwest. So these were so simple things, like just

0:47:50.920 --> 0:47:55.480
<v Speaker 1>the way things were set up kind of set the

0:47:55.640 --> 0:47:58.440
<v Speaker 1>fr C up for failure. It did, yeah, especially because

0:47:58.920 --> 0:48:02.279
<v Speaker 1>when that happened and Southerners in particular felt like they

0:48:02.320 --> 0:48:06.560
<v Speaker 1>weren't being treated fairly. Uh, And it led to the

0:48:06.760 --> 0:48:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Davis Amendment in March. The idea was that there had

0:48:12.000 --> 0:48:15.400
<v Speaker 1>to be an equal allocation of licenses, band frequencies, periods

0:48:15.440 --> 0:48:18.239
<v Speaker 1>of time for operation station power for each of these

0:48:18.320 --> 0:48:22.600
<v Speaker 1>five zones. And that so you know, obviously sexualism was

0:48:22.600 --> 0:48:25.600
<v Speaker 1>a huge problem for the FARC. And this is even

0:48:25.680 --> 0:48:28.880
<v Speaker 1>before we get into the business interest to angle right, right,

0:48:28.960 --> 0:48:31.719
<v Speaker 1>this is just in the operation part of the f

0:48:31.760 --> 0:48:35.000
<v Speaker 1>FRC not even getting into the business section, but these

0:48:35.040 --> 0:48:37.800
<v Speaker 1>are definitely important things to to consider. The idea of

0:48:37.880 --> 0:48:40.840
<v Speaker 1>being able to say, here's the frequency you are allowed

0:48:40.880 --> 0:48:43.200
<v Speaker 1>to use, here's the amount of power your transmitter is

0:48:43.239 --> 0:48:45.680
<v Speaker 1>allowed to have, so that way we can make sure

0:48:45.760 --> 0:48:49.160
<v Speaker 1>that we don't have these battling frequencies interfering with one another,

0:48:49.520 --> 0:48:51.400
<v Speaker 1>because that's not gonna be good for anybody. It's not

0:48:51.520 --> 0:48:54.040
<v Speaker 1>good for the transmitter, it's not good for the consumer

0:48:54.040 --> 0:48:57.200
<v Speaker 1>who's trying to receive these. All of that made sense,

0:48:57.640 --> 0:49:00.400
<v Speaker 1>but they were hampered so much. And also, I mean,

0:49:00.440 --> 0:49:04.120
<v Speaker 1>there were a lot of shady political goings on along

0:49:04.160 --> 0:49:06.640
<v Speaker 1>with corporate goings on at the same time. Right, they

0:49:06.680 --> 0:49:11.120
<v Speaker 1>were essentially trying to fulfill this mission of favoring big

0:49:11.239 --> 0:49:15.880
<v Speaker 1>business over amateur radios. And they actually there's an actual

0:49:15.960 --> 0:49:19.680
<v Speaker 1>FRC memo that says, quote, there is not room in

0:49:19.760 --> 0:49:25.000
<v Speaker 1>the broadcast band for every school of thought, whether it's religious, political, social, social,

0:49:25.160 --> 0:49:29.880
<v Speaker 1>or economic. Each can't have its own separate broadcasting station

0:49:30.200 --> 0:49:34.080
<v Speaker 1>or a mouthpiece in the ether. Uh So they, you know,

0:49:34.160 --> 0:49:37.040
<v Speaker 1>they were coming down pretty hard on these these amateur

0:49:37.160 --> 0:49:41.040
<v Speaker 1>stations that were given providing you know, a pulpit essentially

0:49:41.440 --> 0:49:44.640
<v Speaker 1>to anybody who had the means to to operate a

0:49:44.719 --> 0:49:50.200
<v Speaker 1>broadcast um in favor of the businesses that were, you know,

0:49:50.600 --> 0:49:55.120
<v Speaker 1>lobbying to have them created in the first place. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, So,

0:49:56.360 --> 0:50:01.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, very complicated issue. The technology oddly enough, less

0:50:01.080 --> 0:50:04.560
<v Speaker 1>complicated than the politics and culture surrounding it. In this case,

0:50:05.280 --> 0:50:09.440
<v Speaker 1>like the stories end up getting um like it's the

0:50:09.480 --> 0:50:12.920
<v Speaker 1>human element that really throws the monkey wrench in here. Yeah. So,

0:50:13.040 --> 0:50:17.040
<v Speaker 1>for instance, like you've got this happens, the FARC says,

0:50:17.160 --> 0:50:18.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, this isn't a this isn't a pulpit for

0:50:18.960 --> 0:50:21.680
<v Speaker 1>your beliefs. And then the labor movement, which is very

0:50:21.760 --> 0:50:24.399
<v Speaker 1>powerful at the time, says, wait a minute, we should

0:50:24.440 --> 0:50:26.919
<v Speaker 1>have a clear channel that we can broadcast over these

0:50:26.960 --> 0:50:30.120
<v Speaker 1>five zones so we can talk to people about labor interests.

0:50:30.320 --> 0:50:33.719
<v Speaker 1>And then educators said, yeah, so should we. Uh, And

0:50:33.880 --> 0:50:36.560
<v Speaker 1>so there's all this pressure from the public, and then

0:50:36.640 --> 0:50:40.840
<v Speaker 1>subsequently Congress uses that and just keeps pushing on the FARC,

0:50:41.040 --> 0:50:44.759
<v Speaker 1>saying you're really blowing it here. Yeah. So you've got

0:50:45.239 --> 0:50:48.040
<v Speaker 1>a great bullet list here of the working principles of

0:50:48.120 --> 0:50:50.759
<v Speaker 1>the FARC. Let's go through those. Yeah. So this is

0:50:50.840 --> 0:50:54.719
<v Speaker 1>how they would ostensibly decide things. The first is that

0:50:54.840 --> 0:50:58.560
<v Speaker 1>the station with the longest record of continuous service had

0:50:58.600 --> 0:51:02.719
<v Speaker 1>the superior right for broadcasting on a particular channel, right,

0:51:03.480 --> 0:51:07.239
<v Speaker 1>but they had a stipulation. There were other conditions as well.

0:51:07.760 --> 0:51:10.640
<v Speaker 1>So in order to fulfill the fair and equitable distribution

0:51:10.920 --> 0:51:14.680
<v Speaker 1>that was required by them, an applicant who wanted to

0:51:14.719 --> 0:51:20.920
<v Speaker 1>broadcast needed firm financial standing and efficient equipment. That's pretty vague, right,

0:51:21.280 --> 0:51:23.560
<v Speaker 1>So it's up to this f r C, not f

0:51:23.680 --> 0:51:25.680
<v Speaker 1>c C f r C commissioner at the time to

0:51:25.800 --> 0:51:30.759
<v Speaker 1>determine what firm financial standing means and what efficient equipment means,

0:51:30.880 --> 0:51:35.239
<v Speaker 1>especially as this equipment is evolving at a rapid pace. UM.

0:51:35.920 --> 0:51:38.400
<v Speaker 1>And then you also had to obey the rules of

0:51:38.440 --> 0:51:41.239
<v Speaker 1>the obscene of not broadcasting obscene and content like we

0:51:41.320 --> 0:51:45.440
<v Speaker 1>talked about earlier UH and basically keeping it so that

0:51:45.719 --> 0:51:51.600
<v Speaker 1>this dissemination of propaganda wasn't controlled by a single group

0:51:52.040 --> 0:51:55.279
<v Speaker 1>and that creeds were supposed to find that this is

0:51:55.320 --> 0:51:57.600
<v Speaker 1>another quote that I loved. Find their way into the

0:51:57.680 --> 0:51:59.880
<v Speaker 1>market of ideas to be on the air. There was

0:52:00.000 --> 0:52:03.200
<v Speaker 1>this idea that UM, there was a there would be

0:52:03.280 --> 0:52:08.920
<v Speaker 1>a natural kind of UH process throughout the radio operators

0:52:08.960 --> 0:52:13.320
<v Speaker 1>in the public that would decide which political agendas should

0:52:13.400 --> 0:52:15.839
<v Speaker 1>get to be broadcast on the radio or not, rather

0:52:15.960 --> 0:52:18.560
<v Speaker 1>than just giving everyone the opportunity to Yeah, and that

0:52:18.600 --> 0:52:21.800
<v Speaker 1>would actually change too. There would there would eventually become

0:52:21.880 --> 0:52:24.000
<v Speaker 1>a decision where people would say, you know what, we

0:52:24.080 --> 0:52:28.440
<v Speaker 1>need to make sure that everyone has equal opportunity to

0:52:28.640 --> 0:52:31.919
<v Speaker 1>voice there, to to put their political voice out there.

0:52:32.600 --> 0:52:35.160
<v Speaker 1>But that would be an idea that would come around

0:52:35.200 --> 0:52:40.880
<v Speaker 1>a little later. Yeah, So you know, saying let's just

0:52:41.239 --> 0:52:43.360
<v Speaker 1>put this out there and see what happens, and and

0:52:43.920 --> 0:52:46.800
<v Speaker 1>I trust that whatever outcome there is, it will be

0:52:46.960 --> 0:52:50.160
<v Speaker 1>for the best didn't always work out. It's like it's

0:52:50.160 --> 0:52:53.360
<v Speaker 1>like saying, the laws of nature will decide who the

0:52:53.440 --> 0:52:55.880
<v Speaker 1>best person for president of the United States would be.

0:52:56.280 --> 0:52:59.000
<v Speaker 1>So what sort of stuff did we get as a

0:52:59.080 --> 0:53:03.480
<v Speaker 1>result of this. Well, Subsequently, the FARC didn't want to

0:53:03.560 --> 0:53:09.719
<v Speaker 1>regulate advertising. Uh, not only because you know, the advertiser's

0:53:09.800 --> 0:53:13.080
<v Speaker 1>interests were also their interests, but also because the Commission

0:53:13.200 --> 0:53:16.080
<v Speaker 1>chose to further the ends of the commercial broadcasters as

0:53:16.160 --> 0:53:19.239
<v Speaker 1>part of what they called the public interest. So the

0:53:19.320 --> 0:53:22.400
<v Speaker 1>FARC had this ability to claim that it didn't have

0:53:22.480 --> 0:53:25.719
<v Speaker 1>powers of censorship, and it couldn't be held responsible for

0:53:25.880 --> 0:53:30.280
<v Speaker 1>questionable advertising such as cigarettes. You know, those like old

0:53:30.400 --> 0:53:33.720
<v Speaker 1>corny cigarette ads that you to hear on um radio

0:53:34.320 --> 0:53:36.080
<v Speaker 1>if you listen, if you ever listen to old timey

0:53:36.200 --> 0:53:38.759
<v Speaker 1>radio that has the commercial still in it, you will

0:53:38.840 --> 0:53:41.840
<v Speaker 1>hear tons of these. So they didn't want to censor those.

0:53:42.520 --> 0:53:44.960
<v Speaker 1>But at the same time they would rule that public

0:53:45.040 --> 0:53:47.360
<v Speaker 1>stations that were on the air could or could not

0:53:47.480 --> 0:53:49.480
<v Speaker 1>be on the air because of their quality of character,

0:53:50.840 --> 0:53:52.640
<v Speaker 1>which I think is kind of fascinating that you know

0:53:53.040 --> 0:53:55.239
<v Speaker 1>it was. I would assume at the time that it

0:53:55.400 --> 0:53:59.120
<v Speaker 1>was maybe arguments of political beliefs, right, um, yeah, very

0:53:59.200 --> 0:54:04.400
<v Speaker 1>likely religious. This actually makes me think of how it's unrelated.

0:54:04.440 --> 0:54:09.000
<v Speaker 1>It's tangential. But how if I'm watching a streaming content

0:54:10.200 --> 0:54:13.960
<v Speaker 1>on my one of my devices, whenever it gets to

0:54:14.080 --> 0:54:16.960
<v Speaker 1>the content part, like whatever I'm actually trying to see,

0:54:17.080 --> 0:54:20.000
<v Speaker 1>I might encounter buffering three or four times, depending upon

0:54:20.040 --> 0:54:24.280
<v Speaker 1>the connection. But commercials always seemed to play with perfect

0:54:24.440 --> 0:54:28.600
<v Speaker 1>clarity and no buffering whatsoever. Isn't that interesting, especially especially

0:54:29.120 --> 0:54:31.080
<v Speaker 1>when you're when you're on YouTube, and YouTube has got

0:54:31.160 --> 0:54:34.480
<v Speaker 1>that new sort of passive aggressive alert that comes up

0:54:34.520 --> 0:54:36.200
<v Speaker 1>at the bottom that says, hey, just so you know,

0:54:36.360 --> 0:54:39.440
<v Speaker 1>this isn't US, it's the limits of your bandwidth provider,

0:54:39.680 --> 0:54:45.880
<v Speaker 1>right commercial. So it's interesting to me also that the public,

0:54:46.320 --> 0:54:48.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, you would think like, oh, the public, were

0:54:48.120 --> 0:54:50.719
<v Speaker 1>they crying out on behalf of the little guy, And

0:54:50.760 --> 0:54:53.200
<v Speaker 1>it turns out they weren't. In large part, they were

0:54:53.239 --> 0:54:56.880
<v Speaker 1>actually citing with the big networks. Yeah they were. And

0:54:57.000 --> 0:54:59.480
<v Speaker 1>what's kind of interesting about this is, yeah, they were

0:54:59.520 --> 0:55:01.680
<v Speaker 1>more interest did in the content that NBC, r c

0:55:01.880 --> 0:55:04.960
<v Speaker 1>A and CBS was we're putting out um. And even

0:55:05.040 --> 0:55:06.960
<v Speaker 1>though some people argued, you know, our c has a

0:55:07.040 --> 0:55:11.040
<v Speaker 1>monopoly on this industry. Uh, it's interesting, Like there was

0:55:11.160 --> 0:55:14.120
<v Speaker 1>another argument that was essentially that look, the mass public

0:55:14.239 --> 0:55:17.560
<v Speaker 1>just wants entertainment from these radio channels. They don't want

0:55:17.600 --> 0:55:19.640
<v Speaker 1>to be educated, they don't want to listen to your

0:55:19.680 --> 0:55:24.480
<v Speaker 1>political screeds, and so subsequently they're complacent about the whole

0:55:24.560 --> 0:55:27.000
<v Speaker 1>thing and they don't really care whether or not these

0:55:27.000 --> 0:55:31.920
<v Speaker 1>amateur radio stations are getting edged out um. And so again,

0:55:32.000 --> 0:55:34.680
<v Speaker 1>like I turned back to this article by this guy

0:55:34.800 --> 0:55:39.480
<v Speaker 1>Herring out of the Harvard Review, and he proposed that

0:55:39.560 --> 0:55:41.919
<v Speaker 1>there are two potential solutions which I think are really

0:55:42.000 --> 0:55:44.560
<v Speaker 1>interesting now that we have the the advantage of being

0:55:44.640 --> 0:55:46.440
<v Speaker 1>so far ahead and time and looking back on this,

0:55:46.600 --> 0:55:49.920
<v Speaker 1>and he said, the only possible solutions are that we

0:55:50.040 --> 0:55:53.560
<v Speaker 1>go for full government ownership. His example was the BBC

0:55:53.719 --> 0:55:57.120
<v Speaker 1>at the time. UH. And he said, yeah, there's criticisms

0:55:57.160 --> 0:55:59.360
<v Speaker 1>that come in the form of minority is not not

0:55:59.480 --> 0:56:03.080
<v Speaker 1>ethnic mind parities, but like minorities of voice, claiming that

0:56:03.160 --> 0:56:05.680
<v Speaker 1>they aren't given equal opportunity to access to stations. So

0:56:05.760 --> 0:56:07.680
<v Speaker 1>that's the one negative drawback to that. And he said,

0:56:08.000 --> 0:56:11.320
<v Speaker 1>or we could a lot of fixed percentage of radio

0:56:11.440 --> 0:56:16.560
<v Speaker 1>facilities just for nonprofit programs. UH. And then whatever it is,

0:56:16.680 --> 0:56:20.480
<v Speaker 1>whether it's uh, they allocate a certain number of frequencies

0:56:20.920 --> 0:56:23.239
<v Speaker 1>or maybe they say, you know, the commercial stations can

0:56:23.320 --> 0:56:26.520
<v Speaker 1>broadcast for these twelve hours a day, and then another

0:56:26.600 --> 0:56:29.880
<v Speaker 1>twelve hours a day, it's our nonprofit stations. UM. But

0:56:30.160 --> 0:56:32.840
<v Speaker 1>even if they did that, there were so much demand

0:56:33.560 --> 0:56:38.640
<v Speaker 1>for nonprofit amateur radio that they didn't have enough enough

0:56:38.680 --> 0:56:43.040
<v Speaker 1>to accommodate everybody. There wasn't literally in this case, there

0:56:43.120 --> 0:56:46.520
<v Speaker 1>wasn't There weren't enough frequencies to facilitate it. Yeah. Yeah,

0:56:47.200 --> 0:56:52.120
<v Speaker 1>So this is really between where we see the beginning

0:56:52.719 --> 0:56:58.280
<v Speaker 1>of the radio industry an actual radio industry that is commercialized,

0:56:58.840 --> 0:57:02.200
<v Speaker 1>and they're questions that we're going around about, well, how

0:57:02.239 --> 0:57:05.759
<v Speaker 1>should broadcasting be financed, how should we produce our programs?

0:57:06.160 --> 0:57:09.920
<v Speaker 1>How should we distribute all of this stuff? And amateur

0:57:10.000 --> 0:57:13.480
<v Speaker 1>broadcasting moved away as much as it was, like kind

0:57:13.760 --> 0:57:15.880
<v Speaker 1>I think of it as being like the fandom of today,

0:57:15.960 --> 0:57:19.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, like I keep thinking that's amateur radios like

0:57:19.200 --> 0:57:23.840
<v Speaker 1>the Tumbler of the twenties, um, and that there were

0:57:23.880 --> 0:57:30.000
<v Speaker 1>so many fandoms expressed there. But ultimately other stations that

0:57:30.200 --> 0:57:35.240
<v Speaker 1>had commercial enterprises behind them, or even commercial enterprises themselves,

0:57:35.320 --> 0:57:40.080
<v Speaker 1>like department stores or music stores, or doctors or Mr

0:57:40.200 --> 0:57:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Brinkley sorry Dr brink Yes, Uh, he didn't spend three

0:57:45.120 --> 0:57:48.520
<v Speaker 1>years not graduating medical school to be called Mr exactly. Yeah,

0:57:48.920 --> 0:57:53.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean that five was well spent. Uh. They ultimately

0:57:53.560 --> 0:57:56.640
<v Speaker 1>were able to, you know, put push out these interests

0:57:56.760 --> 0:58:03.680
<v Speaker 1>of the sort of amateur broadcasters. So like our C A, G. E.

0:58:04.000 --> 0:58:07.800
<v Speaker 1>And Westinghouse, they form NBC because they want to keep

0:58:07.840 --> 0:58:10.960
<v Speaker 1>their interests from diverging, even though their competitors they're also

0:58:11.280 --> 0:58:14.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, united against amateur radio. This leads to the

0:58:14.680 --> 0:58:17.840
<v Speaker 1>rise of advertising sponsorships, which were well familiar with in

0:58:17.920 --> 0:58:21.040
<v Speaker 1>the podcasting world and with ad agents. This is really

0:58:21.080 --> 0:58:23.840
<v Speaker 1>like the first time that they had like whole ad

0:58:23.920 --> 0:58:27.400
<v Speaker 1>agencies that were working together with these companies kind of

0:58:28.040 --> 0:58:29.600
<v Speaker 1>coming up with how this stuff is going to be

0:58:29.640 --> 0:58:32.360
<v Speaker 1>broadcasting and how is the best way to convince the

0:58:32.480 --> 0:58:38.480
<v Speaker 1>audience to to move from queens or to buy a cigarette. So,

0:58:39.680 --> 0:58:42.080
<v Speaker 1>looking back to our friend that we referred to a

0:58:42.160 --> 0:58:46.960
<v Speaker 1>second ago, Dr John R. Brinkley, Uh, the f RC

0:58:47.160 --> 0:58:50.720
<v Speaker 1>denied his broadcast renewal license in nineteen thirty. So Dr

0:58:50.840 --> 0:58:52.720
<v Speaker 1>Brinkley comes up to the f r C s as

0:58:52.800 --> 0:58:55.600
<v Speaker 1>a time for me to get a little stamp on

0:58:55.680 --> 0:58:58.360
<v Speaker 1>here so I can continue my my good deeds of

0:58:59.440 --> 0:59:04.840
<v Speaker 1>posting are broadcasting fraudulent medical practices and getting kickbacks. And

0:59:04.920 --> 0:59:08.080
<v Speaker 1>they said nope. They actually cited the fraudulent claims and

0:59:08.200 --> 0:59:11.200
<v Speaker 1>the content as the reason, saying it was against their

0:59:11.280 --> 0:59:14.000
<v Speaker 1>content rules and that's why they were not renewing his license.

0:59:14.520 --> 0:59:17.920
<v Speaker 1>So actually an instance where they did that and it

0:59:18.120 --> 0:59:20.800
<v Speaker 1>was for the good for the yeah, great for the

0:59:20.840 --> 0:59:23.640
<v Speaker 1>greater good in this case, although Brinkley, Brinkley said that

0:59:23.880 --> 0:59:29.200
<v Speaker 1>what was happening was effectively censorship um and so he protests,

0:59:29.240 --> 0:59:31.240
<v Speaker 1>and what he does. He buys a radio station in

0:59:31.360 --> 0:59:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Mexico that broadcasts had a much higher power than almost

0:59:34.560 --> 0:59:36.840
<v Speaker 1>any station in the US. It was at a hundred

0:59:36.880 --> 0:59:40.160
<v Speaker 1>thousand watts, uh eventually went up to a half million

0:59:40.280 --> 0:59:44.160
<v Speaker 1>watts and so very powerful radio station compared to the

0:59:44.200 --> 0:59:46.840
<v Speaker 1>other ones that were active at the time. He directs

0:59:46.880 --> 0:59:51.200
<v Speaker 1>the antenna northward into the United States. It's amazing. So

0:59:51.520 --> 0:59:53.480
<v Speaker 1>here's here's the deal. This is this is what's going

0:59:53.560 --> 0:59:56.720
<v Speaker 1>to come back and haunt him. The way this worked

0:59:56.840 --> 1:00:00.960
<v Speaker 1>was that he would, uh, he would actually his studio

1:00:01.160 --> 1:00:04.440
<v Speaker 1>was in the United States. The the stuff he was

1:00:04.840 --> 1:00:09.080
<v Speaker 1>broadcasting would go to Mexico to be transmitted by radio,

1:00:10.200 --> 1:00:12.640
<v Speaker 1>and that's what would eventually come back to get him,

1:00:12.680 --> 1:00:15.880
<v Speaker 1>but that would be another couple of years. He's I'm

1:00:15.960 --> 1:00:25.000
<v Speaker 1>fascinated by this guy. He's the brass, the moxie. Yeah. Um. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>As a side note, one of the things that was

1:00:27.360 --> 1:00:31.400
<v Speaker 1>mentioned at the top from that listener message was FDRs

1:00:31.440 --> 1:00:35.040
<v Speaker 1>fireside chats, and those began in nineteen thirty three. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is really when I mean fireside chats don't happen anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm fairly certain that the president of the United

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<v Speaker 1>States still records a weekly message that goes out on radio,

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<v Speaker 1>and it becomes an institution. The Presidency recognizes the importance

1:00:51.440 --> 1:00:55.760
<v Speaker 1>of this media, the communicating to the mass public. Also

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen three, that's when Edwin Howard Edwin Howard Armstrong,

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<v Speaker 1>remember we talked about them earlier, created frequency modulation radio

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<v Speaker 1>or FM radio. So AM Remember we mentioned changes the

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<v Speaker 1>peak to peak voltage changes the amplitude of that wavelength.

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<v Speaker 1>Frequency modulation doesn't change the amplitude, it changes the number

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<v Speaker 1>of oscillations per second, the actual frequency of the wave

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<v Speaker 1>within a fairly narrow band because obviously you have to

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<v Speaker 1>tune to a band of frequencies in order to pick

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<v Speaker 1>things up. Then if it went outside of that, you

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't get anymore, which is why you can overlap stations

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<v Speaker 1>instead of causing interference. Yeah, as long as you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, if you're if you're going in an

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<v Speaker 1>area where the power levels are almost the same for

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<v Speaker 1>the frequencies, that's when you start getting that weird thing

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<v Speaker 1>where you'll hear one station and then the other station.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you'll hear both the same time, but it's pretty rare.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh So it's also not as prone to static, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have the same problems that you did with AM

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<v Speaker 1>with electromagnetic interference. But before it could get widespread adoption,

1:01:58.240 --> 1:02:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Armstrong was essentially backstabbed by his former friend David Starnoff,

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<v Speaker 1>who was head of guess what r c A and

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<v Speaker 1>now our c A obviously had a big vested interest

1:02:07.520 --> 1:02:10.960
<v Speaker 1>in AM radio. FM was rising as a competing technology.

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<v Speaker 1>Starnoff went nuclear. He he had wanted Armstrong to go

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<v Speaker 1>and create technology to make AM radio broadcast more clear,

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<v Speaker 1>more free of static, and instead Armstrong comes up with

1:02:23.720 --> 1:02:26.440
<v Speaker 1>this alternative to AM radio. But our c A is

1:02:27.040 --> 1:02:32.280
<v Speaker 1>heavily invested in AM, so rather than say, let's adopt

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<v Speaker 1>this new technology and build on it, he went nuclear

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<v Speaker 1>and he started lobbying the FCC to deny an experimental

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<v Speaker 1>license for UH testing FM radio. Essentially, every time Armstrong

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<v Speaker 1>tried to make a move to push FM radio forward,

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<v Speaker 1>r c A blocked it or tried to block it,

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<v Speaker 1>or complicated litigation ensued. It got very expensive, and here's

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<v Speaker 1>where things get really tragic. UH in the by the

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<v Speaker 1>time you get to the nineteen forties, Armstrong was effectively

1:03:04.600 --> 1:03:09.080
<v Speaker 1>bankrupted by the litigation. He was still trying to pursue this,

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<v Speaker 1>He goes to his wife to ask her for some

1:03:14.240 --> 1:03:17.080
<v Speaker 1>of the money he had given her in their earlier

1:03:17.160 --> 1:03:19.120
<v Speaker 1>part of their relationship that she had put aside for

1:03:19.280 --> 1:03:25.080
<v Speaker 1>their retirement. She denies him this. He he has been

1:03:25.120 --> 1:03:28.600
<v Speaker 1>beaten down totally, and he gets enraged and does a

1:03:28.680 --> 1:03:32.040
<v Speaker 1>horrible act. He grabs a fire poker, hits his wife

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<v Speaker 1>in the arm uh injuring her arm. She leaves, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>she leaves him that evening. He sits down, writes an

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<v Speaker 1>apologetic letter, and jumps out the window of his thirteenth

1:03:45.080 --> 1:03:51.320
<v Speaker 1>floor building and kills himself. Tragic, tragic story. So there

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<v Speaker 1>are some amazing and powerful stories here. Brinkley, Armstrong Tesla Marconi.

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<v Speaker 1>Is I mean there's a movie? There are many movies

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<v Speaker 1>to be made from this. Moving on the nineteen thirty

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<v Speaker 1>four Communications Act, huge, huge piece of legislation. This is

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<v Speaker 1>the formation of the fcc UM. The one section of

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<v Speaker 1>that Act is actually referred to as the Brinkley Act.

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<v Speaker 1>This is within the overall nineteen Communications Act. And of

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<v Speaker 1>course the Brinkley Act is in fact named after our

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<v Speaker 1>good buddy, doctor John R. Brinkley. So this was the

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<v Speaker 1>US government's attempt to finally shut down Brinkley and his

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<v Speaker 1>attempts to continue broadcasting. And they said that if you

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<v Speaker 1>are transmitting information from the United States to another country

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<v Speaker 1>to be broadcast, that is a type of international commerce

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<v Speaker 1>and thus can be regulated. And they laid down rules

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<v Speaker 1>and they said, you cannot do this, it is against

1:04:53.000 --> 1:04:55.880
<v Speaker 1>the law. Now we have put that into law. It

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<v Speaker 1>put a stop to his transmitting and he ended up

1:05:00.400 --> 1:05:02.640
<v Speaker 1>trying to do other things. He also, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>really got the government's attention, not just by transmitting messages

1:05:06.920 --> 1:05:13.720
<v Speaker 1>about quackery and terrible medicinal cures for things. He sided

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<v Speaker 1>with the Nazis before the before the United States entered

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<v Speaker 1>the war exactly is before the United States was in

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<v Speaker 1>in World War Two. But he started with the Nazis.

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<v Speaker 1>Did not go over well. Uh. He eventually would die

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<v Speaker 1>of a heart attack in nine. Yeah, and insane with

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<v Speaker 1>Dr Brinkley. But but Brinkley, I mean, his his actions

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<v Speaker 1>are what in fact there was not. There was a

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<v Speaker 1>case back in the nineteen nineties that related to shutting

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<v Speaker 1>down a uh AN organization that was using a similar

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<v Speaker 1>means of transmitting from the United States to a radio

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<v Speaker 1>antenna in Mexico because they had the facility that they

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<v Speaker 1>could use, and it was largely unregulated. Even as late

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<v Speaker 1>we've had cases that fall under this part of the

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<v Speaker 1>air for some reason, I'm thinking about d d O

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<v Speaker 1>S attacks, But it's it's like the their version of yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all about stepping around the yeah yeah. Well um. Congress,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, had abolished the f r C, which

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<v Speaker 1>they were hoping to do to begin with, but instead

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<v Speaker 1>of just turning it back over to the Department of Commerce,

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<v Speaker 1>they established the FCC. The mandate of the SEC is

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<v Speaker 1>Interstate and Foreign Commerce in Communication, which is where the

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<v Speaker 1>Brinkley thing comes in. And this is these are the

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<v Speaker 1>three claims that they maintainer. The reason for the FCC.

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<v Speaker 1>Make sure that radio is available to all for reasonable

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<v Speaker 1>charges and with adequate facilities, so that you're not necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>listening to No longer would you be listening to an

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<v Speaker 1>amateur out of their garage, out of their gas station,

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<v Speaker 1>would walk away for five minutes to go pump some

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<v Speaker 1>gas and then come back. You want reliable radio service, America,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're going to give it to you. And so

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<v Speaker 1>this is also when we start seeing the allocation of

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<v Speaker 1>large frequency bands for AM radio and FM radio. There's

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<v Speaker 1>still is amateur radio. You can get a license to

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<v Speaker 1>operate an amateur radio, but there are very specific band

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<v Speaker 1>of frequencies you are allowed to use and you can't

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<v Speaker 1>use anything outside of that. Yeah, it's kind of it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of what Herring was arguing back in the nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>thirties that that there, but it's far more limited than that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think what he was envisioning with that there there

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<v Speaker 1>would be a spectrum for nonprofit radio um and, and

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<v Speaker 1>he also argued that the FEC at the time had

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<v Speaker 1>to decide whether they were going to support commercial broadcasters

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<v Speaker 1>at the expense of nonprofit ones. And ultimately, as we know,

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<v Speaker 1>they decided to do that. Um and even though they

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<v Speaker 1>were hearings going on and reports were being pulled together

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<v Speaker 1>and the f CC was looking at all these things,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, ultimately what we know of as the Golden

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<v Speaker 1>Age of radio saw the growth of these he's a

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<v Speaker 1>multi uh corporate networks across the country, right and by

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<v Speaker 1>this time we're talking about World War two. Radio now

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<v Speaker 1>was adopted by a huge percentage of the population. Nine

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<v Speaker 1>and ten families owned a radio and listened to an

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<v Speaker 1>average of three to four hours of programming a day

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<v Speaker 1>picture of that, like family gathered right time my place

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<v Speaker 1>is going and they're all gathered around the radio, a

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<v Speaker 1>little orphan Annie and and lone Ranger and green hornet

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<v Speaker 1>and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, this is this

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<v Speaker 1>is where we're going to kind of draw and end

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<v Speaker 1>to this because while we're right here at the dawn

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<v Speaker 1>of the Golden Age, I think that you know, what's

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<v Speaker 1>the cool story that we've been able to tell is

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<v Speaker 1>the rocky journey it took to get there, and clearly, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it was one that had a lot of drama in it.

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe if you guys are really interested in this topic,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to hear more about it, you should let

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<v Speaker 1>us know. Will be happy to explore it further, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it means, you know, concentrating on a much smaller segment

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<v Speaker 1>to really get to the stories. Armstrong's fascinating person. Brinkley

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<v Speaker 1>is a fascinating person. A lot of people that we

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<v Speaker 1>could talk about. Fessendon very fascinating guy, So lots of

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<v Speaker 1>things we can chat about. Just let us know. You

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<v Speaker 1>odds are good that Christian was at least in some

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