WEBVTT - DONALD TRUMP: THAT'S "DONALD" WITH 47 L's - 12.15.25

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<v Speaker 1>Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. Trump's

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<v Speaker 1>losing streak has hit twenty seven days, his latest losing streak.

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<v Speaker 1>MAGA knows it. The head of the Republican National Committee

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<v Speaker 1>knows it. The Wall Street Journal knows it. The Indiana

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<v Speaker 1>GOP knows it. The Ukrainians know it. Anybody who saw

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<v Speaker 1>his pathetic, credit grabbing, disinformational tweet Saturday night after the

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<v Speaker 1>Brown shooting knows it. His own economists know it, the

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<v Speaker 1>terrorists know it. Even Trump knows it. Since the House

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<v Speaker 1>passed the Epstein Files Transparency Act on November nineteenth, Trump

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<v Speaker 1>has been sinking in quicksand sinking, and not more than

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<v Speaker 1>one or two of his more insane, more desperate colleagues

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<v Speaker 1>have even gotten close enough to hand him a rope

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<v Speaker 1>for fear of being pulled down with him. His losing

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<v Speaker 1>streak is today twenty seven days long, his latest losing streak,

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<v Speaker 1>and they are beginning to blame him. We are facing

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<v Speaker 1>almost certain defeats, says the purulent face of the RNC

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Gruders about the midterms. Then, quote, this is an

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<v Speaker 1>absolute disaster. Then if that wasn't clear enough, quote there's

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<v Speaker 1>no sugarcoating it. This is a pending, looming disaster headed

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<v Speaker 1>our way. And then I think, quoting me, quoting the

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<v Speaker 1>late football owner Al Davis Gruters, says, the chances are

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans will go down, and will go down. Hod just lose, baby,

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<v Speaker 1>and boy has Trump been losing. He called affordability a hoax,

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<v Speaker 1>got his arm twisted by his economists who know the

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<v Speaker 1>last thing it is is a hoax. Tried to give

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<v Speaker 1>a speech saying he will fix affordability rather than being

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<v Speaker 1>crush under its weight politically, and still could not stop himself.

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<v Speaker 1>Could not not mock those advisors, and not mock America,

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<v Speaker 1>and not mock his own speech, and not mock affordability again,

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<v Speaker 1>and even not mock the charts they gave him, and

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<v Speaker 1>not mock Christmas presents. Quote you don't need thirty seven

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<v Speaker 1>dollars for your daughter two or three? Is nice, she thinks,

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<v Speaker 1>santi the results the next day, the Democrat Eileen Higgins

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<v Speaker 1>swamped the MAGA loser in the election for mayor of Miami,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Republicans coughed up what was thought to be

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<v Speaker 1>a permanently red seat in the state House in Georgia,

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<v Speaker 1>and Trump still kept mocking affordability, and Trump even mocked

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<v Speaker 1>Trump twenty eighteen, twenty eighteen when he was caught saying

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<v Speaker 1>shithole countries, and he denied he said shithole countries, and

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<v Speaker 1>he lied and said he didn't say it, and his

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<v Speaker 1>people who there and heard him say it, they lied

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<v Speaker 1>and said he didn't say it. And now he says

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<v Speaker 1>he did say it, and he said it again, and

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<v Speaker 1>he said it about Somalia. And I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>it is, but somehow this group he has attacked seems

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<v Speaker 1>to have been respected in this country, even by Republicans.

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<v Speaker 1>And the shithole in question looks like Trump's mouth. And

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<v Speaker 1>then there's nearby Indiana. Indiana is not a hot prospect

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<v Speaker 1>to join the new Left, and it never has been.

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<v Speaker 1>And yet Mike Pence was from there. And the Indiana

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans who stared Trump down when he threatened to cut

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<v Speaker 1>off all federal funding if they didn't readdistrict the way

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<v Speaker 1>he wanted him to there from there, and they told

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<v Speaker 1>him to go f himself. And then the Maga lieutenant governor,

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<v Speaker 1>whose name is Micah Beckwith and is exactly as dumb

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<v Speaker 1>as that sounds, first posted that threat online then deleted

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<v Speaker 1>the post, and then, when confronted by reporters, repeated the

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<v Speaker 1>threat almost word for word. Quote, Yes, these conversations happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Beckwith said this to Politico. But it's not a threat,

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<v Speaker 1>it's an honest conversation about who does the White House

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<v Speaker 1>want to partner with. There are forty nine other states

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<v Speaker 1>competing for all kinds of projects. Indianatol the White House today.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't want to be a good partner to the

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<v Speaker 1>Trump administration. And I suspect the White House will look

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<v Speaker 1>to partner with other states before US. But did they

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<v Speaker 1>actually say, here are projects you could lose out on

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<v Speaker 1>if you do not deliver for us. Political Politico asked

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<v Speaker 1>them that question, and mister Beckwith answered, quote, yes, unbelievable. Hey, Becky, One,

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<v Speaker 1>don't blackmail. Two, don't blackmail people who aren't going to

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<v Speaker 1>give in to blackmail. Three, when your blackmail fails, don't

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<v Speaker 1>advertise that it's failed. And four, when you realize the

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<v Speaker 1>validity of point three and you try to bury your advertisement,

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<v Speaker 1>don't go back and advertise it again. Indiana thus becomes

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<v Speaker 1>multiple Trump losses. He loses there like three times, and

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<v Speaker 1>he also loses wherever he decides the next Indiana is

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<v Speaker 1>and he looks, well, what's the opposite of impregnable? He

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<v Speaker 1>looks pregnable. And there are multiple, multiple l's, not just Indiana,

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<v Speaker 1>these beauty pageant also rans. He's tried to dress up

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<v Speaker 1>as US attorneys Julianne Murray in Delaware Gone, the slimy

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<v Speaker 1>Elina Haba Gone, Miss Uncongeniality, Lindsay Halligan going seven of them,

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<v Speaker 1>by Trump's own admission going. And Trump's replacement evil plan

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<v Speaker 1>is to eliminate blue slips in the Senate the way

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<v Speaker 1>home state senators keep unqualified nominees from being qualified by

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<v Speaker 1>the whores still working for the would be dictator. And

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<v Speaker 1>John has responded to this by saying no, and Chuck

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<v Speaker 1>Grassley has responded to this by saying, no, that's two

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<v Speaker 1>more els in one game. No three l's in one game.

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<v Speaker 1>He'd already tried to get them to eliminate the filibuster too,

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<v Speaker 1>els el's els marching into the White House just in

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<v Speaker 1>time for the construction permits to be denied for the

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<v Speaker 1>new combination ballroom and Trump egos storage Hangar, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what's going to happen to Obamacare, but He's not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna gut it or replace it with the latest lame

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<v Speaker 1>brained idea for a new scheme. Ran Paul's brilliant plan

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<v Speaker 1>for you to buy your insurance on Amazon or at

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<v Speaker 1>Sam's Club or at Costco. He Randy, maybe I can

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<v Speaker 1>buy my insurance from your neighbor. He seemed to come

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<v Speaker 1>out of his problems. Okay, Trump's healthcare plan fell in

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<v Speaker 1>the Senate. Maybe he can find a new one on Amazon.

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<v Speaker 1>Rdreie Taylor Green remains under the influence of a possibly

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<v Speaker 1>transient but definitely tertiary stage case of conscience in open rebellion,

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<v Speaker 1>planning one final bid to unseat Speaker Johnson before she

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<v Speaker 1>leaves the House. The two thousand dollars tariff checks are gone,

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<v Speaker 1>The Doge checks never happened. Buy your own insurance checks

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<v Speaker 1>have apparently been replaced by Domino's new avoid thenoid insurance.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's approval numbers are frozen Pizza economy approvals down to

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<v Speaker 1>thirty one percent, and if the Obamacare subsidies expire, that

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<v Speaker 1>approval will drop below thirty and maybe take his overall

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<v Speaker 1>approval with it. Because even his people realize he is

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<v Speaker 1>turning this place into a shithole country. The Trump ells

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<v Speaker 1>are everywhere. You can't spell kilmar Abrego, Garcia without a

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<v Speaker 1>Trump l. The courts have ordered him to let go

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<v Speaker 1>of the LA National Guard troops. He's losing in wars.

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<v Speaker 1>He said he'd already settled, or would settle in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four hours or twenty four days or twenty four weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Ukraine is further from peace than ever. The Thailand Cambodia war,

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<v Speaker 1>Trump said he ended on Friday, resumed on Saturday. His

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<v Speaker 1>peace in the Middle East saw the Israelis kill a

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<v Speaker 1>top Hamas commander over the weekend. An attack in Syria

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<v Speaker 1>three Americans dead, including two service members, and he promised

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<v Speaker 1>serious retaliation. And he would have sounded tougher if he'd said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to hit you real hard, like I said

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<v Speaker 1>at the top. There are so many els, And for

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven days at least, there have been nothing but

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<v Speaker 1>els that even Trump has begun to notice. So add

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<v Speaker 1>that to the list of els. His ability to believe

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<v Speaker 1>his own bullshit is showing holes. He still clings to

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<v Speaker 1>this financial imbecility that tariffs will turn the economy into

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<v Speaker 1>a money printing machine, even for people not named Trump

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<v Speaker 1>or Musk or Bezos. But even he has now told

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<v Speaker 1>the Wall Street Journal, Yeah, he doesn't know when that

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<v Speaker 1>money printing machine will actually turn on. The Journal interviewed

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<v Speaker 1>him Friday in the Oval, and he must have stepped

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<v Speaker 1>in some reality and couldn't get it off his shoes,

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<v Speaker 1>quoting them. Quoting him, he acknowledged that he couldn't predict

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<v Speaker 1>if that would translate into political gains for Republicans next fall.

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<v Speaker 1>Asked whether Republicans would lose the House in November, Trump

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<v Speaker 1>said quote, I can't tell you. I don't know when

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<v Speaker 1>all of this money is going to kick in narrator,

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't kick in. Wait, there's more. Quote. I've created

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest economy in history, but it may take people

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<v Speaker 1>a while to figure all these things out. Oh they've

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<v Speaker 1>figured it out, Donald, They figured it out. Saturday night,

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<v Speaker 1>when rushing, stumbling, waddling to grab at it, almost literally

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<v Speaker 1>climbing over the bodies of dead students to claim he

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<v Speaker 1>had found their killer, Trump posted this quote, I have

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<v Speaker 1>been briefed on the shooting that took place at Brown

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<v Speaker 1>University in Rhode Island. The FBI is on the scene,

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<v Speaker 1>the suspect is in custody. God bless the victims and

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<v Speaker 1>the families of the victim's exclamation point, F you, buddy,

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<v Speaker 1>you've stepped on your dick again. You've stepped on your

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<v Speaker 1>tiny dick again. While millions mourned and questioned, what is

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<v Speaker 1>wrong with this goddamn country that we throw school kids,

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<v Speaker 1>whether toddlers or teenagers, into the volcano like we were

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<v Speaker 1>practicing the human sacrifice madness of the Aztecs, just to

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<v Speaker 1>protect your right to walk around with a gun. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>what's another bunch of human hearts? What's another bunch of kids?

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<v Speaker 1>As long as people know that Trump alone has found

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<v Speaker 1>the real killer. Way, what's that you're saying? They haven't

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<v Speaker 1>found the real killer. Hadn't found the real killer when

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<v Speaker 1>he posted that. So now in just three months, Trump's

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<v Speaker 1>bubbleheaded FBI director who didn't know the job meant work.

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<v Speaker 1>He thought it only met a free jet. He wrongly

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<v Speaker 1>said they'd caught the Charlie Kirk assassin. And now Trump

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<v Speaker 1>has made the same mistake and tried to blame his

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<v Speaker 1>mistake on others. And when you do that, and when

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<v Speaker 1>you post that, you open yourself up to attacks from

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<v Speaker 1>the other side, like Chris Murphy attacked on State of

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<v Speaker 1>the Union yesterday. He said it opaquely, he said it

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<v Speaker 1>with nuance. But make no mistake, this is a US

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<v Speaker 1>senator blaming the President of the United States for this

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<v Speaker 1>gun attack and the next gun attack quote. Right now,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have the leadership in Washington to do anything

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<v Speaker 1>anything to respond to the shooting this weekend. Trump has

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<v Speaker 1>been engaged in a pretty deliberate campaign to try to

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<v Speaker 1>make violence more likely in this country, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>you're unfortunately going to see the results of that on

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<v Speaker 1>the streets of America. He's knowingly restoring gun rights to

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<v Speaker 1>dangerous people. He is cutting off grants that have bipartisan

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<v Speaker 1>support to try to interrupt violence in our cities or

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<v Speaker 1>to try to get necessary mental health resources to families

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<v Speaker 1>and children in need unquote. As I said earlier, this

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<v Speaker 1>has been going on all of these els since at

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<v Speaker 1>least the nineteenth of November, when enough MAGA congressmen realized

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<v Speaker 1>that only one of these things could happen. They could

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<v Speaker 1>continue to help Trump hide the Epstein files, or they

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<v Speaker 1>could get re elected. That's why, of all these els,

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest Trump loss in the last twenty seven days

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<v Speaker 1>may have been the release of those four pictures of

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<v Speaker 1>him with Jeffrey Epstein. The photos show nothing. The photos

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<v Speaker 1>would therefore normally mean nothing, but they serve as a

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<v Speaker 1>reminder that Trump tried to stop you from seeing photos

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<v Speaker 1>of him with Epstein, that those photos that were released

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<v Speaker 1>weren't part of that tranch in the files. That doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>It only raises a kind of instinctive speculation about how

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<v Speaker 1>much worse those other Epstein Trump photos might be. It

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<v Speaker 1>keeps the Epstein story alive when Trump could have killed

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<v Speaker 1>it weeks ago, months ago, even if there was stuff

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<v Speaker 1>more incriminating about him than say, a drawn of the

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<v Speaker 1>naked woman made out to Epstein that he may or

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<v Speaker 1>may not have drawn. But he's sure as shit signed

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<v Speaker 1>right over the naughty bits. Instead of moving Epstein off

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<v Speaker 1>the table and out of the picture, he's letting it

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<v Speaker 1>drip drip drip on him. The photos mean nothing, yet

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<v Speaker 1>here they are just another element that says this is

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's scandal. The way the constant coverage of Clinton Lewinsky,

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<v Speaker 1>even when there was no actual news for days, for weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>kept that front of mind for all of the year

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety eight. I'll tell you something at MSNBC in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety eight the promo. But used to ask our

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<v Speaker 1>staffers every day to give them something, anything, a news

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<v Speaker 1>morsel that could turn into a thirty second promo for

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow's show. And on Thursday they used to have to

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<v Speaker 1>turn something into a promo for Monday's show. Monday on

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<v Speaker 1>the White House in crisis, we were locking in the

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<v Speaker 1>crisis four days in advance. We were programming the crisis.

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<v Speaker 1>And when we hit Friday, and those files are by

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<v Speaker 1>law required to be released, whatever is released will be

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<v Speaker 1>another Trump L. And whatever isn't released will be another

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<v Speaker 1>Trump L. And lord knows how many l's there will

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<v Speaker 1>be if there's something actually startling in the files. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's the point. It doesn't have to be a good

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<v Speaker 1>scandal to be a gripping scandal. It just has to

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<v Speaker 1>have new stories every day. That's what Clinton Lewinsky's true

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<v Speaker 1>meaning was. And as Philip Bump pointed out, Trump basically

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<v Speaker 1>got elected by knowing this. There wasn't crap actually in

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<v Speaker 1>wiki leaks or her emails, except that there was only

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<v Speaker 1>something new in them. So in some more losses than

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen sixty two New York mets, or if you

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<v Speaker 1>are a current New York Mets fan more losses than

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty twenty five twenty six offseason New York Mets.

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe it's only one hour a week, but even

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<v Speaker 1>Trump knows it. During that hour, and way more than

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<v Speaker 1>one hour a week, the Trump media industrial complex knows it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not my habit to quote the insufferable, inexhaustible phony

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<v Speaker 1>Peggy Noonan. But when there's a column in the goddamned

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<v Speaker 1>Rupert Murdoch goddamned Wall Street Journal titled quote Trump may

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<v Speaker 1>be losing his touch, Yeah, I'm quoting it. One hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and thirty six words. I swear that's it for this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Just one hundred and thirty six words. And don't be

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<v Speaker 1>thrown by the imaginary world in which Peggy Noonan lives.

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<v Speaker 1>She still thinks Ronald Reagan isn't in hell, and now

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<v Speaker 1>she thinks Charlie Kirk was a mediating force inside the

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<v Speaker 1>Trump cult. Okay, just go with that, But the other

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<v Speaker 1>points she makes are salient and deadly. Quote outside Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>mister Trump's base is fighting with itself. America first is

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<v Speaker 1>saying I'm not maga conspiracies all over Israel killed Charlie

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<v Speaker 1>the assassination of Charlie Kirk, she writes, looks increasingly like

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<v Speaker 1>an epical event. Did he understand how much he was

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<v Speaker 1>holding together the Trumpian right Without the force of his

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<v Speaker 1>mediating presence, they are cracking up percolating below unseen is

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<v Speaker 1>the price you pay in time for success? The President's

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<v Speaker 1>border triumph, sorry what? The president's border triumph will likely

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<v Speaker 1>weaken his and maga's political position. He shut down illegal

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<v Speaker 1>immigration on the southern border, which had been more less

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<v Speaker 1>open for decades. But it was anger at illegal immigration

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<v Speaker 1>noonan rights that kept his base cleaved to him and

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<v Speaker 1>allied with each other. Remove the issue that made you,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can no longer use it to gain votes

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<v Speaker 1>or maintain unity. Unquote Oh no, oh, dear Trump's lost

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<v Speaker 1>his touch. God damn shame not going to affect those

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<v Speaker 1>midterms and give us enough Democratic congressman to impeach him

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<v Speaker 1>and enough Democratic senators to remove him. Is it? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Really you think so wow? That'll be fun? Let me

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<v Speaker 1>quote this RNC blob gruters again, quoting me again, quoting

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<v Speaker 1>al Davis again. Republicans will go down and will go

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<v Speaker 1>down hobb okay. Two quick media notes The CBS evening

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<v Speaker 1>news about Barry Weiss, edited by Barry Weiss, anchored by

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<v Speaker 1>Barry Weiss, starring Barry Weiss, is not going so well.

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<v Speaker 1>If she had not been put there to do something

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<v Speaker 1>bad like this, her stay on this job might be

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<v Speaker 1>as long as RONA. Romney's glorious hour and a half

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<v Speaker 1>as an MSNBC commentator. It was Brian Steinberg and Variety

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<v Speaker 1>who noticed this, and to whom all credit goes, And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just going to quote him and read his story from

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<v Speaker 1>Variety that Barry Weiss town hall with Erica Kirk, the

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<v Speaker 1>merry widow, the woman who used all the eyeliner left

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<v Speaker 1>over after jd Vance got done. No real advertiser was

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<v Speaker 1>willing to buy time on it. No real advertiser was

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<v Speaker 1>willing to buy time on the CBS television network. Mister

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<v Speaker 1>Steinberg writes headline, Big advertisers appear wary of CBS News's

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<v Speaker 1>Barryweiss town Hall format during a Saturday night town hall

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<v Speaker 1>led by Barry Weiss, the recently named editor in chief

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<v Speaker 1>of CBS News, and I believe she liked the article

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<v Speaker 1>so far most of Madison Avenue sought an off ramp.

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<v Speaker 1>Steinberg writes the News special aired at eight pm on Saturday,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the least watch hours in broadcast TV, and

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<v Speaker 1>that may have contributed to a relative dearth of top

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<v Speaker 1>advertisers appearing to support the show during the hour. Commercial

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<v Speaker 1>breaks were largely filled with spots from direct response advertisers,

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<v Speaker 1>including the taietary supplement super Beats, the home repair service

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<v Speaker 1>HomeServe dot com, and Carfax, a supplier of auto ownership data.

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<v Speaker 1>Viewers of the telecast on WCBS, CBS's flagship station in

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<v Speaker 1>New York even saw a commercial for Giampet, the terra

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<v Speaker 1>cotta figure that sprouts plant life after a few weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if CBS will still sprout plant life after

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<v Speaker 1>a two weeks, continuing the article quote. A more moneyed

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<v Speaker 1>class of sponsors was evident during the first commercial break,

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<v Speaker 1>appearing in the nine pm hour on CBS a rebroadcast

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<v Speaker 1>of a twenty twenty four episode of forty eight Hours.

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<v Speaker 1>Marketers appearing included Amazon, Ferrero Group, and Procter and Gamble. Unquote,

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<v Speaker 1>uh oh, Congratsbery Weiss and the Ellisons. You've turned CBS

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<v Speaker 1>News into overnights. On superstation WTBS in nineteen seventy six,

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<v Speaker 1>got a Ginsu knife collection for sale Airberry. But wait,

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<v Speaker 1>what was that again about chiapets? Viewers of the telecast

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<v Speaker 1>on WCBS. CBS was flagship station in New York even

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<v Speaker 1>saw commercial for Chiapet the terracotta figure that sprout's plant

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<v Speaker 1>life after a few weeks. Oh my god, Chia Pet Company,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give you one thousand dollars if you make a

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<v Speaker 1>Barry Weiss chia pet. Please, oh please, please, please please please. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>something that a week ago would have outdrawn the Barry

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<v Speaker 1>Weiss town Hall with Tammy fay Baker Kirk may now

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<v Speaker 1>belong to the Ages as well as Vivid as parts

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<v Speaker 1>of the latest Ryan Lizzer response to Olivia Newsy may

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<v Speaker 1>have been the whole thing has collapsed under the realization

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<v Speaker 1>that actually the only guaranteed audience for Lizz's segments have

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<v Speaker 1>been Olivia's other exes. Hey her book first week out,

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<v Speaker 1>first publication week, maximum visibility. As you probably have not heard,

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<v Speaker 1>her book, the first week sold. With all that publicity,

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<v Speaker 1>including the most thorough job of The New York Times

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<v Speaker 1>ever missing the lead and the next twenty off leads

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<v Speaker 1>in its history, that book sold and sixty five copies

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<v Speaker 1>a book that sold five thousand copies the same week,

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<v Speaker 1>placed fiftieth among nonfiction sellers. Not great, Bob. So, barring

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<v Speaker 1>anything else that might come up later on in this

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<v Speaker 1>to which I could add something that is either relevant

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<v Speaker 1>or true, I'll bow out here. But I do want

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<v Speaker 1>to read one last paragraph, because this is the easiest

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<v Speaker 1>way for me to get mister lendsa an answer he

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<v Speaker 1>apparently needs. Let me quote him. Quote Olivia, this person

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<v Speaker 1>said was starting to tell people that I might kill her.

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<v Speaker 1>I tried to explain that Olivia watched a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>Law and Order growing up and has an active imagination,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when it comes to being killed. She feared that

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<v Speaker 1>her mother would kill her. She had told me that

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<v Speaker 1>she thought Keith might kill her, and now I have

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<v Speaker 1>to assume she told Keith the same thing about me.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, she repeatedly told me that she feared Bobby

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<v Speaker 1>would kill her. Now she was saying that I might

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<v Speaker 1>kill her. I never heard her say one way or

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<v Speaker 1>the other about Mark Sandford's level of interest in killing her.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good line. So many people were out to

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<v Speaker 1>kill her, and yet here she was, at thirty one,

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<v Speaker 1>somehow very much alive. End quote. Okay, Ryan. I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>talked to her since twenty fifteen, and by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>every contact I've had with her since twenty fifteen was

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<v Speaker 1>about what to do with her clothes or about the

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<v Speaker 1>health of what had been our dogs, about which she

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<v Speaker 1>had no interest, for which I will never forgive her,

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<v Speaker 1>and which I think summarizes her. Once I did post

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<v Speaker 1>on Facebook twenty eighteen, maybe that the place in Central

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<v Speaker 1>Park that you two guys like to hang out at

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<v Speaker 1>was my utter coincidence, right on the path I walked

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<v Speaker 1>the dogs every day, and way too near my home,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was a miracle we hadn't run into each

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<v Speaker 1>other already. So maybe we should all make that our DMZ.

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<v Speaker 1>But about the killing her question, exhale Ryan, she never

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<v Speaker 1>told me she thought you might kill her. She only

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<v Speaker 1>told me she thought you were stalking her. Also of interest,

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<v Speaker 1>here a top governor tries to insist Democrats have a

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<v Speaker 1>hand in political violence in this country. And this would

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<v Speaker 1>just be stupid if this governor weren't a Democrat, and

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<v Speaker 1>if he weren't the democratic governor whose fascist haters tried

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<v Speaker 1>to burn him and his family alive in their own

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<v Speaker 1>home during passover. Worst Persons is next This is Countdown.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Countdown with Keith Oberman still ahead on this

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<v Speaker 1>edition of Countdown. Sixty five years ago this month, a

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<v Speaker 1>little boy named Theo Dall was hit by a New

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<v Speaker 1>York City cab while being pushed across the street in

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<v Speaker 1>his baby carriage. He was never the same, nor was

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<v Speaker 1>his father, who, in part to entertain his stricken son,

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<v Speaker 1>wrote a book called Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. And

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<v Speaker 1>although the next development was not quite on that level

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<v Speaker 1>of importance, the writing of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory

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<v Speaker 1>led me to write to Theo's dad, who was the

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<v Speaker 1>legendary both good and bad legendary Roal Doll, to write

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<v Speaker 1>him a fan letter, and he wrote back, and he

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<v Speaker 1>wrote back again, And these letters are referenced somehow in

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<v Speaker 1>Roald Dahl's official biography. This very strange story ahead in

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<v Speaker 1>things I promised not to tell first of believe it

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<v Speaker 1>or not, there's still more new idiots to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>The roundup of the disagreants, morons and Dunning Kruger effects

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<v Speaker 1>specimens who constitute today's other worst persons in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>The runner up to the runner up Bronze, Anna Paulina

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<v Speaker 1>Luna the congresswoman from Smolensk. I know, I'm sorry, I

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<v Speaker 1>got that wrong from Florida. Problem is she might as

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<v Speaker 1>well be and it might as well be Smolensk. The

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<v Speaker 1>Russian Embassy in the US social media account has posted

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<v Speaker 1>her photo and quote at the invitation by at Rep. Luna,

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<v Speaker 1>Ambassador Dartkiev visited her Christmas reception on Capitol Hill. Wonderful

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<v Speaker 1>event with warm atmosphere and exceptional hospitality. Continue working to

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<v Speaker 1>make Russian American relations great again. Yeah. Sorry, anybody who

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<v Speaker 1>thinks we should have great relations with Russia before the

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<v Speaker 1>Russians overthrow the Putent dictatorship is to totally loyal to

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<v Speaker 1>this country, but really dumb. Not loyal and dumb. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>Russia is our enemy, but there are degrees of how

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<v Speaker 1>truly not you can be. And from the Twitter ex

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<v Speaker 1>account of the gadfly Jay in Kiev comes this addendum

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<v Speaker 1>to that photo of Luna to whom the Russians gave

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<v Speaker 1>their JFK quote files unquote, because why would they ever

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<v Speaker 1>give America fake historical records or disinformation? Jay in Kiev

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<v Speaker 1>notes and quoting him since August when her and Steve

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<v Speaker 1>Whitcoff met some of Putin's representatives at a Miami hotel

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<v Speaker 1>owned by Russian business partner of Witcoff. US Congresswoman Anna

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<v Speaker 1>Paulina Luna has been a prolific member of the Russian

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<v Speaker 1>government's Paid Influencers program, turning her ex timeline into display

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<v Speaker 1>case of NonStop Kremlin talking points. Jay in Kiev writes

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<v Speaker 1>and continues, what she does isn't illegal. Today she gleefully

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<v Speaker 1>met her handler unquote yikes. I don't know if she's

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<v Speaker 1>a paid influencer or a paid Influencer's program member. That's

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<v Speaker 1>Jay's assertion. I do know she operates under an adopted name.

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<v Speaker 1>She was born Anna Paulina Meyerhoffer. Right, your arm is Meyerhoffer,

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<v Speaker 1>and she has the IQ of a goldfish on a

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<v Speaker 1>good day to goldfish. The runner up worser, Governor Josh

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<v Speaker 1>Shapiro of Pennsylvania. Now, look, I get what he's trying

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<v Speaker 1>to do here, but it's Pollyanna to the point of ridiculousness. Worse,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Pollyanna to the point of John fetterman esque. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>that they tried to burn the governor and his family

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<v Speaker 1>alive and burn them to death in his home in

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<v Speaker 1>the Governor's residence just last April during the holidays, and

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<v Speaker 1>he is still both sides political violence in America. Governor

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<v Speaker 1>Shapiro writes, quote, it shouldn't be hard to mourn the

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<v Speaker 1>loss of the Minnesota Speaker of the House, Melissa Hortman,

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<v Speaker 1>after she was gunned down in her bed. It shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be hard to follow Erica Kirk's eulogy with an amen

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<v Speaker 1>and a prayer for her and her family. We have

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<v Speaker 1>a crisis of political violence in this country and it

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<v Speaker 1>requires all of us to do better every time. No,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't. We have a crisis of conservative, fascist, maga

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<v Speaker 1>republican political violence in this country. And I will say

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<v Speaker 1>this again, the assassination of Charlie Kirk was and is indefensible,

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<v Speaker 1>But so was Charlie Kirk. He was a terrible destructive force.

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<v Speaker 1>And the sane washing of him calls for the execution

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<v Speaker 1>of President Biden. Things like that that he did forcing

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<v Speaker 1>kids to watch public hangings, that he called for putting

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<v Speaker 1>public hangings on TV. Charlie Kirk called for that Saine washing.

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<v Speaker 1>All that is appalling, And I get what Josh Shapiro

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<v Speaker 1>is trying to do, but my god, man, the right

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<v Speaker 1>wingers tried to burn you to death, and you are

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<v Speaker 1>acting like this guy was Saint Charlie of Kirk and

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<v Speaker 1>his rage filled wife is Jackie Kennedy. Preach all the

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<v Speaker 1>condemn all political violence sermons you want, Governor, but the

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<v Speaker 1>right is going to continue to attack physically Democrats and

0:30:18.155 --> 0:30:21.955
<v Speaker 1>liberals and you know, our form of government, and as

0:30:21.995 --> 0:30:25.235
<v Speaker 1>it turns out, any Republican who disagrees with them, like

0:30:25.275 --> 0:30:28.115
<v Speaker 1>the ones in Indiana, and then they will insist that

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<v Speaker 1>it's only the liberals who do all the political violence. Governor,

0:30:32.515 --> 0:30:35.475
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna do that as they have now for twenty years.

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<v Speaker 1>You should not help them. They are doing fine on

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<v Speaker 1>this by themselves. Do not join the both sides in parade, Governor,

0:30:45.315 --> 0:30:47.875
<v Speaker 1>especially since these are the people who tried to kill you.

0:30:48.635 --> 0:30:53.075
<v Speaker 1>But our winner is Howard Lutnik, chief bullshit advisor to Trump.

0:30:53.395 --> 0:30:55.235
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there are lots of toadies and there are

0:30:55.275 --> 0:30:58.195
<v Speaker 1>lots of liars around Trump, but this guy may be

0:30:58.355 --> 0:31:02.075
<v Speaker 1>the champion. I am indebted to my former NBC colleague

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<v Speaker 1>Carl Kintenia on this one. It's priceless. As Carl noted

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<v Speaker 1>on Face the Nation on April sixth of this year,

0:31:09.395 --> 0:31:13.635
<v Speaker 1>Lutnik said, quote, the army of millions and millions of

0:31:13.715 --> 0:31:18.075
<v Speaker 1>human beings screwing in little screws to make iPhones, That

0:31:18.195 --> 0:31:20.875
<v Speaker 1>kind of thing is going to come to America. The

0:31:21.155 --> 0:31:24.435
<v Speaker 1>army of millions and millions of human beings screwing in

0:31:24.435 --> 0:31:27.435
<v Speaker 1>little screws to make iPhones, That kind of thing is

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<v Speaker 1>going to come to America. Then Lutnick, same guy, same topic,

0:31:35.355 --> 0:31:39.315
<v Speaker 1>goes on CNBC last Thursday, and he says, quote, Remember

0:31:39.475 --> 0:31:42.995
<v Speaker 1>Americans don't have millions of people to screw in little

0:31:43.035 --> 0:31:47.275
<v Speaker 1>screws in iPhones, but we do have capacity to run robotics.

0:31:48.195 --> 0:31:51.395
<v Speaker 1>Remember Americans don't have millions of people to screw in

0:31:51.435 --> 0:31:54.715
<v Speaker 1>little screws in iPhones, but we do have capacity to

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<v Speaker 1>run robot So Trump's ass kissing bullshit artist is bullshitting

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<v Speaker 1>us in both directions. In April, Howard Lutnik promised that

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's America would be where millions of us would be

0:32:07.395 --> 0:32:11.515
<v Speaker 1>screwing in the little screws to make iPhones. By December,

0:32:11.595 --> 0:32:14.715
<v Speaker 1>he is promising that Trump's America will be where millions

0:32:14.755 --> 0:32:17.475
<v Speaker 1>of us will not be screwing in the little screws

0:32:17.515 --> 0:32:21.435
<v Speaker 1>to make iPhones. The arrogance and the degree to which

0:32:21.475 --> 0:32:24.755
<v Speaker 1>this man will say anything to try to make it

0:32:24.835 --> 0:32:29.355
<v Speaker 1>seem like Trump isn't screwing this economy into the ground

0:32:30.035 --> 0:32:34.275
<v Speaker 1>is seriously astonishing, even in the context of the world

0:32:34.355 --> 0:32:38.555
<v Speaker 1>in which we live today. Howard, may I suggest you

0:32:38.715 --> 0:32:44.475
<v Speaker 1>screw your little screws in yourself, Lutnik Today's other worst

0:32:45.275 --> 0:33:15.955
<v Speaker 1>person in the world. If the name Royal Dahl does

0:33:15.995 --> 0:33:18.155
<v Speaker 1>not immediately ring a bell for you. He was the

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<v Speaker 1>author of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, and thus the

0:33:21.315 --> 0:33:24.315
<v Speaker 1>creator of Willy Wonka, and he wrote James and the

0:33:24.355 --> 0:33:27.995
<v Speaker 1>Giant Peach, and all of his kids books combined have

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<v Speaker 1>sold about a quarter of a billion copies Dead since

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety. Two years ago, Forbes placed Dall first on

0:33:36.355 --> 0:33:39.395
<v Speaker 1>its list of the top earning dead celebrities, ahead of

0:33:39.475 --> 0:33:43.915
<v Speaker 1>Prince and Michael Jackson. Royal Dahl made about five hundred

0:33:43.915 --> 0:33:47.515
<v Speaker 1>and thirteen million dollars in twenty twenty one, compared to

0:33:47.795 --> 0:33:51.795
<v Speaker 1>thirteen million by the late John Lennon. And that is

0:33:51.835 --> 0:33:54.395
<v Speaker 1>where the problems began. And if you have not heard

0:33:54.395 --> 0:33:57.315
<v Speaker 1>about the problems, the first is Royal Dahl was often,

0:33:57.355 --> 0:34:00.235
<v Speaker 1>as somebody on Twitter put it succinctly, he was often

0:34:00.275 --> 0:34:05.955
<v Speaker 1>the C word. He was at times anti Semitic, racist, misogynistic,

0:34:06.035 --> 0:34:11.355
<v Speaker 1>and cruel, and his writing was at times anti Semitic, racist, misogynistic,

0:34:11.395 --> 0:34:14.955
<v Speaker 1>and cruel. None of that has ever really slowed down

0:34:14.955 --> 0:34:18.075
<v Speaker 1>his book sales, though, largely because first, kids who read

0:34:18.115 --> 0:34:21.515
<v Speaker 1>books are actually smarter than nearly every adult thinks they are.

0:34:21.955 --> 0:34:25.675
<v Speaker 1>And second, it seemed then and now that the more

0:34:25.795 --> 0:34:29.875
<v Speaker 1>problematic a lot of Doll's characters were, the smarter he

0:34:29.955 --> 0:34:34.875
<v Speaker 1>made them. The Umphilumpas of Willy Wonka are not Doll's

0:34:34.955 --> 0:34:38.355
<v Speaker 1>finest moments. On the other hand, they do run everything

0:34:38.435 --> 0:34:41.715
<v Speaker 1>in the chocolate factory. They know everything about the ticket

0:34:41.755 --> 0:34:45.195
<v Speaker 1>winning kids and their foibles. And when Violet turns into

0:34:45.235 --> 0:34:49.515
<v Speaker 1>a giant blueberry, and when Veruka gets devoured by squirrels,

0:34:50.115 --> 0:34:53.075
<v Speaker 1>it is the Umphilumpas who know how to save them.

0:34:53.515 --> 0:34:59.555
<v Speaker 1>So apparently the Umphluopas are doctors, or at least paramedics. Anyway,

0:34:59.595 --> 0:35:02.435
<v Speaker 1>the reason Royal Dahl made five hundred and thirteen million

0:35:02.515 --> 0:35:05.355
<v Speaker 1>dollars thirty one years after he died was that his

0:35:05.515 --> 0:35:09.075
<v Speaker 1>estate sold the rights to the books to Netflix. By then,

0:35:09.115 --> 0:35:11.315
<v Speaker 1>the book publishers had already brought in a company of

0:35:11.355 --> 0:35:16.275
<v Speaker 1>so called sensitivity readers to rewrite the more troublesome parts

0:35:16.315 --> 0:35:19.515
<v Speaker 1>of Dol's work. We're seeing the first results of this now,

0:35:19.555 --> 0:35:22.675
<v Speaker 1>and it is literally what George Orwell described in his

0:35:22.835 --> 0:35:26.995
<v Speaker 1>novel nineteen eighty four, erasing the past, replacing it with

0:35:27.035 --> 0:35:30.635
<v Speaker 1>a new past, and leaving no indication that any editing

0:35:30.755 --> 0:35:34.475
<v Speaker 1>or changing was done. While I'm assuming it still says

0:35:34.475 --> 0:35:36.835
<v Speaker 1>that in nineteen eighty four, presumably all of that could

0:35:36.875 --> 0:35:39.275
<v Speaker 1>be edited out of Orwell and we'd never know, right.

0:35:40.995 --> 0:35:43.355
<v Speaker 1>But it's even worse than that, because the edits are

0:35:43.395 --> 0:35:47.515
<v Speaker 1>being made not because of some pure if misguided desire

0:35:47.555 --> 0:35:50.715
<v Speaker 1>to make changes reflecting the changes in morays and respect

0:35:50.835 --> 0:35:54.115
<v Speaker 1>changes even the author might want to make. They're being

0:35:54.195 --> 0:35:56.555
<v Speaker 1>done so that the books, according to the publisher, can

0:35:56.595 --> 0:36:00.675
<v Speaker 1>continue to be enjoyed by all today, meaning they did

0:36:00.675 --> 0:36:04.115
<v Speaker 1>this to literally sell more books. This is not even

0:36:04.155 --> 0:36:09.035
<v Speaker 1>about why intentioned censorship. It's about profit. And if all

0:36:09.115 --> 0:36:11.835
<v Speaker 1>that were not bad enough, the rewriting of ro al

0:36:11.995 --> 0:36:15.075
<v Speaker 1>Dahl has from a quality viewpoint, gone about as well

0:36:15.075 --> 0:36:18.755
<v Speaker 1>as the so called restoration of the painting of Jesus

0:36:18.835 --> 0:36:22.275
<v Speaker 1>in Spain in twenty twelve. The painting is now known

0:36:22.355 --> 0:36:27.635
<v Speaker 1>as monkey Christ or potato Jesus. Apart from the wholesale

0:36:27.675 --> 0:36:30.755
<v Speaker 1>elimination of words like fat and ugly, the publishers have

0:36:30.795 --> 0:36:35.275
<v Speaker 1>decided to take out references that no kid would ever notice.

0:36:35.355 --> 0:36:39.875
<v Speaker 1>She went to India with Rudyard Kipling becomes she went

0:36:39.915 --> 0:36:47.955
<v Speaker 1>to California with John Steinbeck. Why. In his story The Witches,

0:36:48.155 --> 0:36:51.035
<v Speaker 1>Roul Dahl has the hero believe that all witches are

0:36:51.235 --> 0:36:54.075
<v Speaker 1>bald and wear wigs and gloves, and that's a way

0:36:54.115 --> 0:36:58.075
<v Speaker 1>to check. Don't be foolish, my grandmother said. You can't

0:36:58.075 --> 0:37:00.315
<v Speaker 1>go around pulling the hair of every lady you meet,

0:37:00.355 --> 0:37:02.995
<v Speaker 1>even if she is wearing gloves. Just you try it

0:37:03.035 --> 0:37:06.395
<v Speaker 1>and see what happens. That would be an admonition not

0:37:06.515 --> 0:37:09.195
<v Speaker 1>to believe that everybody with a wig is a witch.

0:37:09.835 --> 0:37:12.635
<v Speaker 1>It has now been changed to don't be foolish, my

0:37:12.715 --> 0:37:16.115
<v Speaker 1>grandmother said. Besides, there are plenty of other reasons why

0:37:16.155 --> 0:37:19.315
<v Speaker 1>women might wear wigs, and there's certainly nothing wrong with that.

0:37:22.515 --> 0:37:25.795
<v Speaker 1>It's like Shakespeare. Now. Look, it is one thing if

0:37:25.835 --> 0:37:28.315
<v Speaker 1>you are giving a public reading of Tom Sawyer, and

0:37:28.355 --> 0:37:30.595
<v Speaker 1>you may want to drop a couple of words here

0:37:30.675 --> 0:37:35.595
<v Speaker 1>and there. I have performed James Thurber's stories since twenty

0:37:35.715 --> 0:37:40.155
<v Speaker 1>ten on TV on radio on this podcast in Person,

0:37:40.715 --> 0:37:43.995
<v Speaker 1>his epic story by the way, forecasting Trump the greatest

0:37:44.035 --> 0:37:47.315
<v Speaker 1>man in the World, is coming up shortly. Thurber's daughter

0:37:47.435 --> 0:37:50.835
<v Speaker 1>Rosie offered me the right to edit anything I felt

0:37:50.915 --> 0:37:54.235
<v Speaker 1>I needed to edit for time or for taste, and

0:37:54.315 --> 0:37:56.355
<v Speaker 1>said there was plenty in there. Her dad would be

0:37:56.395 --> 0:38:00.675
<v Speaker 1>mortified by today that he wrote. Letting me edit it, though,

0:38:00.835 --> 0:38:03.675
<v Speaker 1>is like saying, hey, you have a heart, so that

0:38:03.715 --> 0:38:07.195
<v Speaker 1>means you can perform heart surgery. But the goal in

0:38:07.275 --> 0:38:10.515
<v Speaker 1>doing that is to change as little as possible. There

0:38:10.555 --> 0:38:14.395
<v Speaker 1>are adjectives that were once perfectly normal and seemingly liberal,

0:38:14.395 --> 0:38:17.355
<v Speaker 1>and once thought even to be complimentary that you really

0:38:17.395 --> 0:38:20.795
<v Speaker 1>need to just skip, So when you're reading them aloud,

0:38:20.955 --> 0:38:26.475
<v Speaker 1>just skip them, but erase them permanently forever from Thurber's books,

0:38:26.915 --> 0:38:31.715
<v Speaker 1>when maybe a note to new readers would be sufficient warning. Plus,

0:38:31.795 --> 0:38:35.475
<v Speaker 1>if I'm changing anything about Thurber while transforming his work

0:38:35.515 --> 0:38:39.675
<v Speaker 1>into a different medium like podcasts, I am necessarily going

0:38:39.715 --> 0:38:44.235
<v Speaker 1>to edit things. A movie might leave out nine tenths

0:38:44.235 --> 0:38:47.635
<v Speaker 1>of any novel, but just reading a novel aloud might

0:38:47.795 --> 0:38:51.075
<v Speaker 1>change something as important as the emphasis on the way

0:38:51.195 --> 0:38:55.435
<v Speaker 1>certain words were said from the way the author intended

0:38:55.435 --> 0:38:58.835
<v Speaker 1>that emphasis to be. Besides which, all those changes are temporary.

0:38:59.235 --> 0:39:04.035
<v Speaker 1>I'm not altering Thurber's text. I'm altering my reading of

0:39:04.115 --> 0:39:07.675
<v Speaker 1>his text next. And the same goes for Royal Dahl.

0:39:08.315 --> 0:39:09.955
<v Speaker 1>And a lot of people saying this are people who

0:39:09.955 --> 0:39:13.515
<v Speaker 1>do not like Royal Dall. Sir Solomon rushed. He wrote,

0:39:13.675 --> 0:39:17.635
<v Speaker 1>he was a self confessed anti Semite with pronounced racist leanings,

0:39:17.835 --> 0:39:19.955
<v Speaker 1>and he joined in the attack on me back in

0:39:20.035 --> 0:39:23.995
<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty nine. Royal Dahl was no angel. But this

0:39:24.195 --> 0:39:28.915
<v Speaker 1>is absurd censorship, puffin books and the doll estate should

0:39:28.915 --> 0:39:32.835
<v Speaker 1>be ashamed, because that's the point. If we're going to

0:39:32.995 --> 0:39:37.395
<v Speaker 1>edit or otherwise circumscribe every book or author, or film

0:39:37.595 --> 0:39:40.315
<v Speaker 1>or producer with a significant problem, we're going to wind

0:39:40.395 --> 0:39:42.875
<v Speaker 1>up with a world library of about fifty books and

0:39:42.955 --> 0:39:47.595
<v Speaker 1>ten films. I mean, this isn't Florida. And artists, like people,

0:39:47.675 --> 0:39:50.875
<v Speaker 1>are rarely all good or all bad, and often they

0:39:50.915 --> 0:39:55.715
<v Speaker 1>have huge disturbing flaws which can, in their own way,

0:39:55.835 --> 0:40:00.115
<v Speaker 1>teach you what not to do or be in life.

0:40:00.235 --> 0:40:02.915
<v Speaker 1>The publishers defended doing this on the premise that Roald

0:40:02.955 --> 0:40:06.595
<v Speaker 1>Dahl's works have always been edited and modified, that he

0:40:07.435 --> 0:40:11.235
<v Speaker 1>permanently changed the description of those umpah lumpas several times

0:40:11.395 --> 0:40:14.475
<v Speaker 1>to make it less offensive. And again that misses the

0:40:14.515 --> 0:40:18.875
<v Speaker 1>point he made those changes, not his publishers, not his

0:40:18.955 --> 0:40:23.035
<v Speaker 1>literary estate, not you, not me, him. And if you're

0:40:23.035 --> 0:40:25.595
<v Speaker 1>wondering why I'm going on so long about this, it's

0:40:25.595 --> 0:40:28.955
<v Speaker 1>because this is personal for me. I think I learned

0:40:28.995 --> 0:40:31.755
<v Speaker 1>that truth that almost everybody is a mix of good

0:40:31.755 --> 0:40:35.075
<v Speaker 1>and bad, often in big, bright, ugly letters, often with

0:40:35.195 --> 0:40:40.675
<v Speaker 1>extraordinary self contradictions. I learned all that from Royal Dahl.

0:40:42.035 --> 0:40:45.035
<v Speaker 1>Sometime in the second half of March nineteen sixty six,

0:40:45.155 --> 0:40:48.395
<v Speaker 1>a letter unlike any other I had seen before arrived

0:40:48.435 --> 0:40:50.955
<v Speaker 1>at our little house in the suburbs of New York City,

0:40:51.595 --> 0:40:53.955
<v Speaker 1>where my parents packed me off each morning to the

0:40:53.995 --> 0:40:58.995
<v Speaker 1>third grade. The words par Avian were printed in the

0:40:59.075 --> 0:41:03.195
<v Speaker 1>upper left, and the postmark was from somewhere called Great Missenden,

0:41:04.035 --> 0:41:08.115
<v Speaker 1>and the address see was me. It was a letter

0:41:08.275 --> 0:41:12.835
<v Speaker 1>from Royal Dahl. I had a number of very special

0:41:12.875 --> 0:41:15.275
<v Speaker 1>teachers in my life, but the first of them was

0:41:15.315 --> 0:41:19.835
<v Speaker 1>Missus Marjorie Plant, who survived an entire school year of me.

0:41:20.035 --> 0:41:24.275
<v Speaker 1>In nineteen sixty five and nineteen sixty six, we sidled

0:41:24.275 --> 0:41:26.555
<v Speaker 1>down the hallway to miss Ritz for an hour or

0:41:26.635 --> 0:41:28.475
<v Speaker 1>so of math every day, but the rest of the

0:41:28.515 --> 0:41:32.035
<v Speaker 1>time we were Missus Plant's class. And when she was

0:41:32.035 --> 0:41:34.795
<v Speaker 1>not leading us out to the glorious natural meadow in

0:41:34.835 --> 0:41:37.955
<v Speaker 1>the pond just behind the elementary school and teaching us

0:41:37.955 --> 0:41:41.035
<v Speaker 1>the name of every plant and every tree and every bird,

0:41:41.435 --> 0:41:43.835
<v Speaker 1>she was reading to us, or getting us to read

0:41:43.875 --> 0:41:46.395
<v Speaker 1>to her, or one day asking each of us to

0:41:46.515 --> 0:41:50.235
<v Speaker 1>name our favorite author. Well, I didn't hesitate. My dad

0:41:50.275 --> 0:41:53.115
<v Speaker 1>read to me each night, and it's probable somebody else's

0:41:53.195 --> 0:41:55.475
<v Speaker 1>book was first. And I know he later read me

0:41:55.595 --> 0:41:58.675
<v Speaker 1>Chitty Chitty Bang Bang by Ian Fleming, But the first

0:41:58.915 --> 0:42:02.755
<v Speaker 1>books for me were Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and

0:42:02.875 --> 0:42:05.235
<v Speaker 1>James and the Giant Peach by Royl Doll. And I

0:42:05.275 --> 0:42:08.275
<v Speaker 1>don't know how many times Dad read each of them

0:42:08.315 --> 0:42:11.075
<v Speaker 1>to me, but I now do know that somehow those

0:42:11.115 --> 0:42:14.715
<v Speaker 1>books conveyed to me that books didn't just happen, That

0:42:14.835 --> 0:42:18.475
<v Speaker 1>a grown up like my dad had written them deliberately

0:42:18.875 --> 0:42:23.155
<v Speaker 1>for kids to read and to listen to. And this

0:42:23.275 --> 0:42:27.035
<v Speaker 1>man had clearly included jokes that the kids would get,

0:42:27.555 --> 0:42:31.835
<v Speaker 1>but the grown ups didn't seem to notice, and This

0:42:32.075 --> 0:42:35.835
<v Speaker 1>was this man's job, the way being a draftsman and

0:42:35.915 --> 0:42:39.755
<v Speaker 1>later an architect was my dad's job. That you could

0:42:39.995 --> 0:42:43.275
<v Speaker 1>do this and people would pay you. This is how

0:42:43.315 --> 0:42:47.275
<v Speaker 1>I understood about this. A thousand other writers and broadcasters

0:42:47.315 --> 0:42:49.955
<v Speaker 1>flashed out the details and the specifics for me. But

0:42:49.995 --> 0:42:52.955
<v Speaker 1>the man who opened the first door into the world

0:42:52.955 --> 0:42:56.195
<v Speaker 1>in which perhaps I could write for a living was

0:42:56.275 --> 0:43:00.355
<v Speaker 1>ro Al Dahl. So, Keith, who's your favorite author, Missus Plant,

0:43:00.355 --> 0:43:04.155
<v Speaker 1>asked ro Al Dahl. Missus Plant, knowing her and knowing me,

0:43:04.195 --> 0:43:07.595
<v Speaker 1>she probably said I knew it, and soon after she

0:43:07.675 --> 0:43:09.795
<v Speaker 1>explained that we had an assignment that day. We were

0:43:09.835 --> 0:43:13.595
<v Speaker 1>all going to write. Great. I thought, I'll write another book.

0:43:14.235 --> 0:43:16.635
<v Speaker 1>I had already written something like forty books in Missus

0:43:16.715 --> 0:43:22.195
<v Speaker 1>Plant's class, two or three pages with illustrations, with construction paper, covers,

0:43:22.195 --> 0:43:25.275
<v Speaker 1>with staples, with titles. I wasn't just going to be

0:43:25.315 --> 0:43:29.475
<v Speaker 1>a writer like Royal Dahl. I already was one. Not

0:43:29.555 --> 0:43:32.035
<v Speaker 1>a book today, Keith, she said, I want you all

0:43:32.115 --> 0:43:34.795
<v Speaker 1>to write a letter to your favorite author. I know

0:43:34.875 --> 0:43:37.195
<v Speaker 1>how to get your letters to your author, so you

0:43:37.235 --> 0:43:39.595
<v Speaker 1>don't have to worry about that part. You can ask

0:43:39.635 --> 0:43:41.675
<v Speaker 1>them anything you want in the letter you can tell

0:43:41.675 --> 0:43:44.395
<v Speaker 1>them anything about yourself, but I especially want you to

0:43:44.435 --> 0:43:47.235
<v Speaker 1>tell them why you like their books, and who you

0:43:47.315 --> 0:43:51.355
<v Speaker 1>are and how old you are. And on that day

0:43:51.435 --> 0:43:55.595
<v Speaker 1>in March nineteen sixty six, my favorite author had written

0:43:55.715 --> 0:43:59.795
<v Speaker 1>me back. I had a sense immediately of it being

0:43:59.835 --> 0:44:04.595
<v Speaker 1>a special occasion. I believe only one author besides Royal Dahl,

0:44:04.755 --> 0:44:07.435
<v Speaker 1>replied to anybody in our class. I do know the

0:44:07.475 --> 0:44:09.595
<v Speaker 1>school thought it was a big enough deal to call

0:44:09.675 --> 0:44:13.395
<v Speaker 1>the town newspaper to do a story on it. It's

0:44:13.435 --> 0:44:15.555
<v Speaker 1>not as if I forgot the story, or the letter

0:44:15.675 --> 0:44:18.275
<v Speaker 1>or the sense of wonder at its arrival, either. But

0:44:18.395 --> 0:44:22.075
<v Speaker 1>despite the coverage in the weekly Hastings News, it still

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<v Speaker 1>seemed like a very private family kind of thing. And

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<v Speaker 1>then in twenty ten, somebody told me, maybe it was

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<v Speaker 1>the publisher, that the private family thing had made it

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<v Speaker 1>into the authorized biography of roy Al Dahl, a book

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<v Speaker 1>called Storyteller by Donald Sturrock. He wrote this next part,

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<v Speaker 1>I did not. I think it's okay for me to

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<v Speaker 1>bother it here, quoting mister Sturrock, his stories were encouraging

0:44:47.635 --> 0:44:50.195
<v Speaker 1>children the world over to read books, and that many

0:44:50.235 --> 0:44:52.795
<v Speaker 1>of them loved his stories so much that they felt

0:44:52.795 --> 0:44:56.475
<v Speaker 1>impelled to write and tell him so. The current rate

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<v Speaker 1>of letters from children in the US is between fifty

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<v Speaker 1>and sixty a week. He had written to Mike Watkins

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen sixty six. I try to answer them all

0:45:04.955 --> 0:45:09.595
<v Speaker 1>with a postcard. Roald was always a diligent and engaging correspondent,

0:45:09.635 --> 0:45:11.595
<v Speaker 1>and if he was in the right mood and thought

0:45:11.595 --> 0:45:15.595
<v Speaker 1>a child's letter particularly imaginative, he or she would receive

0:45:15.635 --> 0:45:19.475
<v Speaker 1>a fuller and more memorable response. When the sports journalist

0:45:19.555 --> 0:45:23.075
<v Speaker 1>and television anchorman Keith Olberman was seven years old and

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<v Speaker 1>head of maps in his class at school, he wrote

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<v Speaker 1>to Dahl from Hastings on Hudson in New York and

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<v Speaker 1>told him at some length about his own writing ambitions

0:45:31.875 --> 0:45:36.475
<v Speaker 1>and successes. Roald's reply was thoughtful, generous, and full of

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<v Speaker 1>gentle ironic humor. My dear Keith, he began, It was

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful to receive a letter from a fellow author. It

0:45:45.835 --> 0:45:48.955
<v Speaker 1>meant so much more than the usual ordinary message from

0:45:48.995 --> 0:45:51.955
<v Speaker 1>a mere reader. As head of maps, you will be

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<v Speaker 1>able to calculate very easily what a long way your

0:45:55.075 --> 0:45:57.035
<v Speaker 1>letter had to travel in order to reach me in

0:45:57.075 --> 0:46:01.675
<v Speaker 1>this little village, thousands of miles The postman, an elderly

0:46:01.715 --> 0:46:04.475
<v Speaker 1>fellow who comes on foot, knocked on the door this morning,

0:46:04.835 --> 0:46:08.315
<v Speaker 1>said I have a letter from you, from Kay Ulderman

0:46:08.395 --> 0:46:12.355
<v Speaker 1>of Hastings, USA. I said, how do you know? He said,

0:46:12.675 --> 0:46:15.595
<v Speaker 1>it says so on the envelope. He is a very

0:46:15.635 --> 0:46:18.475
<v Speaker 1>inquisitive postman, and he likes to know who is writing

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<v Speaker 1>to me. Who is Ulberman, asked the postman. I opened

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<v Speaker 1>the letter and read it. He is a writer, I said,

0:46:26.435 --> 0:46:30.995
<v Speaker 1>he has written more books than me. Oldraman's parents later

0:46:31.075 --> 0:46:33.755
<v Speaker 1>told the local newspaper that the letter had given the

0:46:33.795 --> 0:46:37.755
<v Speaker 1>boy the kick of his young life. Missus Ulriman added

0:46:37.755 --> 0:46:39.875
<v Speaker 1>that it just about proves that there are still some

0:46:40.035 --> 0:46:42.275
<v Speaker 1>very nice people left in this old, beat up world.

0:46:42.595 --> 0:46:45.595
<v Speaker 1>If all adults acted with such loving attention to children,

0:46:45.795 --> 0:46:49.675
<v Speaker 1>would it not be wonderful? Dahl was quite sincere when

0:46:49.715 --> 0:46:52.595
<v Speaker 1>he argued that he thought children alone were decent judges

0:46:52.595 --> 0:46:55.075
<v Speaker 1>of whether a book written for them was any good

0:46:55.195 --> 0:46:57.595
<v Speaker 1>or not. In nineteen sixty two, he had written to

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<v Speaker 1>a child critic of James and the Giant Peach to

0:47:00.115 --> 0:47:02.315
<v Speaker 1>tell him that up to now, a whole lot of

0:47:02.355 --> 0:47:04.795
<v Speaker 1>grown ups have written reviews, but none of them have

0:47:04.915 --> 0:47:07.435
<v Speaker 1>really known what they were talking about, because a grown

0:47:07.515 --> 0:47:10.155
<v Speaker 1>up talking about a children's book is like a man

0:47:10.715 --> 0:47:16.435
<v Speaker 1>talking about a woman's hat. The author, mister Sterrock not

0:47:16.475 --> 0:47:19.435
<v Speaker 1>only put me in the authorized biography of Royal Dall,

0:47:19.475 --> 0:47:22.195
<v Speaker 1>he also put me in the index there. I am

0:47:22.675 --> 0:47:27.795
<v Speaker 1>right between David Ogilvie, the advertising legend, and Sir Laurence Olivier.

0:47:29.915 --> 0:47:32.275
<v Speaker 1>Left out of Sterrock's account and the quotes from my

0:47:32.395 --> 0:47:34.355
<v Speaker 1>mother was the fact that mom was a fan of

0:47:34.395 --> 0:47:38.555
<v Speaker 1>the actress Patricia Neil, Royal Dahl's wife, and she had

0:47:38.595 --> 0:47:42.795
<v Speaker 1>read horror stories about their marriage and about Neil's stroke

0:47:42.915 --> 0:47:46.835
<v Speaker 1>and Dol's tough love during her recovery. As I began

0:47:46.915 --> 0:47:49.555
<v Speaker 1>to appreciate her point of view and Dall's books at

0:47:49.555 --> 0:47:51.995
<v Speaker 1>the same time and his letter to me, I began

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<v Speaker 1>to formulate a theory that not everybody was just one thing,

0:47:56.275 --> 0:47:58.835
<v Speaker 1>that you could be good and bad and shouldn't be

0:47:58.915 --> 0:48:03.195
<v Speaker 1>judged on just half of yourself. Naturally, I wrote my

0:48:03.275 --> 0:48:06.035
<v Speaker 1>new pen pal back he had mentioned having a son

0:48:06.075 --> 0:48:09.475
<v Speaker 1>about my age. In fact, Theo Dahl had been born

0:48:09.595 --> 0:48:11.875
<v Speaker 1>in New York just like I was, but at the

0:48:11.915 --> 0:48:15.355
<v Speaker 1>age of four months in his baby carriage, Theo was

0:48:15.435 --> 0:48:18.915
<v Speaker 1>hit by a cab, and his injuries were so profound

0:48:19.355 --> 0:48:22.595
<v Speaker 1>that for a while he was blind and Royal Dahl

0:48:22.715 --> 0:48:26.395
<v Speaker 1>himself had helped to develop a shunt used to drain

0:48:26.595 --> 0:48:30.355
<v Speaker 1>swelling in Theo's brain to make his life better and

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<v Speaker 1>more worthwhile I did not know any of this when

0:48:33.395 --> 0:48:36.115
<v Speaker 1>I mentioned, among other mundating details, that a seven year

0:48:36.155 --> 0:48:38.435
<v Speaker 1>old was likely to tell an adult in a letter

0:48:38.635 --> 0:48:42.715
<v Speaker 1>that my middle name was Theodore. I also apparently included

0:48:42.715 --> 0:48:45.875
<v Speaker 1>some poems I had written. And I know this because

0:48:45.915 --> 0:48:50.875
<v Speaker 1>sure enough Rol Dahl wrote back again. This next letter

0:48:50.915 --> 0:48:53.675
<v Speaker 1>did not come for nearly a year. My dear Keith.

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<v Speaker 1>It begins dated February second, nineteen sixty seven. Your last

0:48:58.075 --> 0:49:01.715
<v Speaker 1>letter was a very good one, So were the poems.

0:49:03.115 --> 0:49:08.395
<v Speaker 1>Imagine the impact of that from your favorite writer right

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<v Speaker 1>after your eighth birthday. But Doll went on, I hope

0:49:12.555 --> 0:49:14.635
<v Speaker 1>you will not become a poet when you grow up,

0:49:14.795 --> 0:49:17.795
<v Speaker 1>because poets have a terribly hard time earning a living.

0:49:19.075 --> 0:49:21.715
<v Speaker 1>I am writing a musical film, he went on, for

0:49:21.795 --> 0:49:24.875
<v Speaker 1>Dick van Dyke, based roughly on Chitty Chitty Bang Bang

0:49:25.075 --> 0:49:29.275
<v Speaker 1>the Flying Motor Car. Could I have mentioned liking this

0:49:29.315 --> 0:49:31.675
<v Speaker 1>book by a different author in my letter to him

0:49:31.795 --> 0:49:33.995
<v Speaker 1>or did he just decide to announce it to me.

0:49:35.035 --> 0:49:37.235
<v Speaker 1>We'll be making it here in England next summer, and

0:49:37.275 --> 0:49:39.235
<v Speaker 1>you can go and see it in nineteen sixty eight,

0:49:39.235 --> 0:49:41.875
<v Speaker 1>when you are nine years old. You will be impressed

0:49:41.915 --> 0:49:44.435
<v Speaker 1>at the things this car is going to do. With

0:49:44.635 --> 0:49:50.115
<v Speaker 1>love from Roal Dahl, I'm sure I wrote again. I

0:49:50.115 --> 0:49:54.355
<v Speaker 1>can almost remember he did not write back. I do

0:49:54.435 --> 0:49:57.675
<v Speaker 1>not recall holding it against him, nor do I now.

0:49:58.075 --> 0:50:00.355
<v Speaker 1>I do recall that when I followed his instructions and

0:50:00.355 --> 0:50:02.555
<v Speaker 1>went to see his movie. I think, in fact it

0:50:02.635 --> 0:50:05.395
<v Speaker 1>was my tenth birthday party in early nineteen sixty nine.

0:50:05.595 --> 0:50:10.075
<v Speaker 1>I was disappointed. Too much girl chasing, not enough car flying.

0:50:11.235 --> 0:50:14.635
<v Speaker 1>Still almost no one is all good or all bad,

0:50:14.675 --> 0:50:17.795
<v Speaker 1>And every new reissue of every Royal Doll book could

0:50:17.795 --> 0:50:20.995
<v Speaker 1>include a twenty page treatise about what was bad about

0:50:21.035 --> 0:50:24.195
<v Speaker 1>him and the negativities in that book and his other writings,

0:50:24.755 --> 0:50:29.795
<v Speaker 1>just so long as it is included instead of rather

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<v Speaker 1>than in addition to the nonsensical rewrites that Puffin publishing

0:50:34.795 --> 0:50:38.155
<v Speaker 1>is produced. Also, I think it might be appropriate to

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<v Speaker 1>mention that though the letters from kids just in the

0:50:41.075 --> 0:50:46.555
<v Speaker 1>US just in nineteen sixty six totaled around what twenty

0:50:46.595 --> 0:50:50.755
<v Speaker 1>five hundred, he tried to answer them all with a postcard,

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<v Speaker 1>or if you were very lucky, a letter, or if

0:50:56.995 --> 0:51:01.395
<v Speaker 1>you were very very lucky, two letters, and to mention

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<v Speaker 1>forty three years later in his official biography, I've done

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<v Speaker 1>all the damage I can do here. Thank you for listening.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of our countdown music was arranged, produced, and performed

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<v Speaker 1>friend Dennis Leary. Everything else was, as always my fault.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's countdown for today. Day three hundred and thirty

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<v Speaker 1>of America held hostage again about just one and thirty

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<v Speaker 1>three days until the scheduled end of his lame duck

0:52:09.435 --> 0:52:12.955
<v Speaker 1>and lame brain term unless he is removed sooner by

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<v Speaker 1>Maga and Epstein or Indiana or Anosagnosia or Taile and

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<v Speaker 1>All or affordability or the second Strike video. The next

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<v Speaker 1>scheduled edition of Countdown is Thursday. Until then, I'm Keith Olberman.

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