1 00:00:04,795 --> 00:00:21,155 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. Trump's 2 00:00:21,195 --> 00:00:26,115 Speaker 1: losing streak has hit twenty seven days, his latest losing streak. 3 00:00:26,435 --> 00:00:28,875 Speaker 1: MAGA knows it. The head of the Republican National Committee 4 00:00:28,915 --> 00:00:31,555 Speaker 1: knows it. The Wall Street Journal knows it. The Indiana 5 00:00:31,635 --> 00:00:35,395 Speaker 1: GOP knows it. The Ukrainians know it. Anybody who saw 6 00:00:35,395 --> 00:00:40,035 Speaker 1: his pathetic, credit grabbing, disinformational tweet Saturday night after the 7 00:00:40,075 --> 00:00:43,315 Speaker 1: Brown shooting knows it. His own economists know it, the 8 00:00:43,475 --> 00:00:47,395 Speaker 1: terrorists know it. Even Trump knows it. Since the House 9 00:00:47,555 --> 00:00:52,555 Speaker 1: passed the Epstein Files Transparency Act on November nineteenth, Trump 10 00:00:52,595 --> 00:00:57,515 Speaker 1: has been sinking in quicksand sinking, and not more than 11 00:00:57,595 --> 00:01:01,595 Speaker 1: one or two of his more insane, more desperate colleagues 12 00:01:01,875 --> 00:01:04,355 Speaker 1: have even gotten close enough to hand him a rope 13 00:01:04,435 --> 00:01:07,675 Speaker 1: for fear of being pulled down with him. His losing 14 00:01:07,715 --> 00:01:13,635 Speaker 1: streak is today twenty seven days long, his latest losing streak, 15 00:01:14,315 --> 00:01:19,035 Speaker 1: and they are beginning to blame him. We are facing 16 00:01:19,195 --> 00:01:23,115 Speaker 1: almost certain defeats, says the purulent face of the RNC 17 00:01:23,435 --> 00:01:27,675 Speaker 1: Joe Gruders about the midterms. Then, quote, this is an 18 00:01:27,715 --> 00:01:31,955 Speaker 1: absolute disaster. Then if that wasn't clear enough, quote there's 19 00:01:31,955 --> 00:01:35,955 Speaker 1: no sugarcoating it. This is a pending, looming disaster headed 20 00:01:36,035 --> 00:01:40,475 Speaker 1: our way. And then I think, quoting me, quoting the 21 00:01:40,555 --> 00:01:44,835 Speaker 1: late football owner Al Davis Gruters, says, the chances are 22 00:01:44,875 --> 00:01:50,355 Speaker 1: Republicans will go down, and will go down. Hod just lose, baby, 23 00:01:51,275 --> 00:01:55,395 Speaker 1: and boy has Trump been losing. He called affordability a hoax, 24 00:01:55,475 --> 00:01:57,995 Speaker 1: got his arm twisted by his economists who know the 25 00:01:58,075 --> 00:02:00,435 Speaker 1: last thing it is is a hoax. Tried to give 26 00:02:00,475 --> 00:02:04,315 Speaker 1: a speech saying he will fix affordability rather than being 27 00:02:04,435 --> 00:02:09,155 Speaker 1: crush under its weight politically, and still could not stop himself. 28 00:02:09,235 --> 00:02:14,115 Speaker 1: Could not not mock those advisors, and not mock America, 29 00:02:14,235 --> 00:02:18,075 Speaker 1: and not mock his own speech, and not mock affordability again, 30 00:02:18,435 --> 00:02:22,435 Speaker 1: and even not mock the charts they gave him, and 31 00:02:23,315 --> 00:02:28,035 Speaker 1: not mock Christmas presents. Quote you don't need thirty seven 32 00:02:28,155 --> 00:02:34,035 Speaker 1: dollars for your daughter two or three? Is nice, she thinks, 33 00:02:34,155 --> 00:02:38,595 Speaker 1: santi the results the next day, the Democrat Eileen Higgins 34 00:02:38,635 --> 00:02:41,915 Speaker 1: swamped the MAGA loser in the election for mayor of Miami, 35 00:02:42,235 --> 00:02:44,715 Speaker 1: and the Republicans coughed up what was thought to be 36 00:02:44,755 --> 00:02:47,675 Speaker 1: a permanently red seat in the state House in Georgia, 37 00:02:47,955 --> 00:02:52,475 Speaker 1: and Trump still kept mocking affordability, and Trump even mocked 38 00:02:52,915 --> 00:02:57,115 Speaker 1: Trump twenty eighteen, twenty eighteen when he was caught saying 39 00:02:57,195 --> 00:03:01,715 Speaker 1: shithole countries, and he denied he said shithole countries, and 40 00:03:01,755 --> 00:03:04,115 Speaker 1: he lied and said he didn't say it, and his 41 00:03:04,155 --> 00:03:06,955 Speaker 1: people who there and heard him say it, they lied 42 00:03:07,035 --> 00:03:08,595 Speaker 1: and said he didn't say it. And now he says 43 00:03:08,675 --> 00:03:10,475 Speaker 1: he did say it, and he said it again, and 44 00:03:10,515 --> 00:03:13,035 Speaker 1: he said it about Somalia. And I don't know what 45 00:03:13,155 --> 00:03:17,915 Speaker 1: it is, but somehow this group he has attacked seems 46 00:03:17,915 --> 00:03:21,115 Speaker 1: to have been respected in this country, even by Republicans. 47 00:03:21,395 --> 00:03:26,115 Speaker 1: And the shithole in question looks like Trump's mouth. And 48 00:03:26,155 --> 00:03:30,755 Speaker 1: then there's nearby Indiana. Indiana is not a hot prospect 49 00:03:31,235 --> 00:03:34,475 Speaker 1: to join the new Left, and it never has been. 50 00:03:34,515 --> 00:03:37,995 Speaker 1: And yet Mike Pence was from there. And the Indiana 51 00:03:38,035 --> 00:03:40,955 Speaker 1: Republicans who stared Trump down when he threatened to cut 52 00:03:40,995 --> 00:03:44,355 Speaker 1: off all federal funding if they didn't readdistrict the way 53 00:03:44,395 --> 00:03:48,075 Speaker 1: he wanted him to there from there, and they told 54 00:03:48,155 --> 00:03:51,755 Speaker 1: him to go f himself. And then the Maga lieutenant governor, 55 00:03:51,755 --> 00:03:55,635 Speaker 1: whose name is Micah Beckwith and is exactly as dumb 56 00:03:55,635 --> 00:04:00,515 Speaker 1: as that sounds, first posted that threat online then deleted 57 00:04:00,515 --> 00:04:03,835 Speaker 1: the post, and then, when confronted by reporters, repeated the 58 00:04:03,875 --> 00:04:09,515 Speaker 1: threat almost word for word. Quote, Yes, these conversations happened. 59 00:04:09,915 --> 00:04:13,155 Speaker 1: Beckwith said this to Politico. But it's not a threat, 60 00:04:13,275 --> 00:04:16,155 Speaker 1: it's an honest conversation about who does the White House 61 00:04:16,235 --> 00:04:19,435 Speaker 1: want to partner with. There are forty nine other states 62 00:04:19,435 --> 00:04:23,475 Speaker 1: competing for all kinds of projects. Indianatol the White House today. 63 00:04:23,515 --> 00:04:26,155 Speaker 1: They don't want to be a good partner to the 64 00:04:26,235 --> 00:04:29,515 Speaker 1: Trump administration. And I suspect the White House will look 65 00:04:29,515 --> 00:04:33,595 Speaker 1: to partner with other states before US. But did they 66 00:04:33,635 --> 00:04:37,635 Speaker 1: actually say, here are projects you could lose out on 67 00:04:38,275 --> 00:04:42,355 Speaker 1: if you do not deliver for us. Political Politico asked 68 00:04:42,355 --> 00:04:51,315 Speaker 1: them that question, and mister Beckwith answered, quote, yes, unbelievable. Hey, Becky, One, 69 00:04:51,555 --> 00:04:55,235 Speaker 1: don't blackmail. Two, don't blackmail people who aren't going to 70 00:04:55,275 --> 00:04:59,395 Speaker 1: give in to blackmail. Three, when your blackmail fails, don't 71 00:04:59,435 --> 00:05:03,835 Speaker 1: advertise that it's failed. And four, when you realize the 72 00:05:03,915 --> 00:05:07,475 Speaker 1: validity of point three and you try to bury your advertisement, 73 00:05:07,675 --> 00:05:12,595 Speaker 1: don't go back and advertise it again. Indiana thus becomes 74 00:05:12,715 --> 00:05:17,915 Speaker 1: multiple Trump losses. He loses there like three times, and 75 00:05:18,035 --> 00:05:21,155 Speaker 1: he also loses wherever he decides the next Indiana is 76 00:05:22,075 --> 00:05:26,595 Speaker 1: and he looks, well, what's the opposite of impregnable? He 77 00:05:26,675 --> 00:05:32,235 Speaker 1: looks pregnable. And there are multiple, multiple l's, not just Indiana, 78 00:05:32,355 --> 00:05:35,635 Speaker 1: these beauty pageant also rans. He's tried to dress up 79 00:05:35,675 --> 00:05:41,675 Speaker 1: as US attorneys Julianne Murray in Delaware Gone, the slimy 80 00:05:41,795 --> 00:05:49,075 Speaker 1: Elina Haba Gone, Miss Uncongeniality, Lindsay Halligan going seven of them, 81 00:05:49,155 --> 00:05:54,115 Speaker 1: by Trump's own admission going. And Trump's replacement evil plan 82 00:05:54,795 --> 00:05:57,035 Speaker 1: is to eliminate blue slips in the Senate the way 83 00:05:57,075 --> 00:06:00,995 Speaker 1: home state senators keep unqualified nominees from being qualified by 84 00:06:01,035 --> 00:06:04,275 Speaker 1: the whores still working for the would be dictator. And 85 00:06:04,395 --> 00:06:07,515 Speaker 1: John has responded to this by saying no, and Chuck 86 00:06:07,555 --> 00:06:10,715 Speaker 1: Grassley has responded to this by saying, no, that's two 87 00:06:10,755 --> 00:06:14,675 Speaker 1: more els in one game. No three l's in one game. 88 00:06:14,715 --> 00:06:19,115 Speaker 1: He'd already tried to get them to eliminate the filibuster too, 89 00:06:19,395 --> 00:06:23,795 Speaker 1: els el's els marching into the White House just in 90 00:06:23,875 --> 00:06:26,835 Speaker 1: time for the construction permits to be denied for the 91 00:06:26,915 --> 00:06:32,635 Speaker 1: new combination ballroom and Trump egos storage Hangar, I don't 92 00:06:32,675 --> 00:06:35,075 Speaker 1: know what's going to happen to Obamacare, but He's not 93 00:06:35,115 --> 00:06:38,235 Speaker 1: gonna gut it or replace it with the latest lame 94 00:06:38,355 --> 00:06:42,315 Speaker 1: brained idea for a new scheme. Ran Paul's brilliant plan 95 00:06:42,515 --> 00:06:47,075 Speaker 1: for you to buy your insurance on Amazon or at 96 00:06:47,235 --> 00:06:52,115 Speaker 1: Sam's Club or at Costco. He Randy, maybe I can 97 00:06:52,155 --> 00:06:54,915 Speaker 1: buy my insurance from your neighbor. He seemed to come 98 00:06:54,955 --> 00:07:00,315 Speaker 1: out of his problems. Okay, Trump's healthcare plan fell in 99 00:07:00,435 --> 00:07:03,755 Speaker 1: the Senate. Maybe he can find a new one on Amazon. 100 00:07:04,715 --> 00:07:07,555 Speaker 1: Rdreie Taylor Green remains under the influence of a possibly 101 00:07:07,635 --> 00:07:13,115 Speaker 1: transient but definitely tertiary stage case of conscience in open rebellion, 102 00:07:13,475 --> 00:07:17,195 Speaker 1: planning one final bid to unseat Speaker Johnson before she 103 00:07:17,355 --> 00:07:21,235 Speaker 1: leaves the House. The two thousand dollars tariff checks are gone, 104 00:07:21,355 --> 00:07:25,195 Speaker 1: The Doge checks never happened. Buy your own insurance checks 105 00:07:25,195 --> 00:07:29,875 Speaker 1: have apparently been replaced by Domino's new avoid thenoid insurance. 106 00:07:30,515 --> 00:07:34,875 Speaker 1: Trump's approval numbers are frozen Pizza economy approvals down to 107 00:07:34,915 --> 00:07:38,955 Speaker 1: thirty one percent, and if the Obamacare subsidies expire, that 108 00:07:39,035 --> 00:07:42,635 Speaker 1: approval will drop below thirty and maybe take his overall 109 00:07:42,675 --> 00:07:46,395 Speaker 1: approval with it. Because even his people realize he is 110 00:07:46,435 --> 00:07:51,915 Speaker 1: turning this place into a shithole country. The Trump ells 111 00:07:52,755 --> 00:07:58,115 Speaker 1: are everywhere. You can't spell kilmar Abrego, Garcia without a 112 00:07:58,155 --> 00:08:02,115 Speaker 1: Trump l. The courts have ordered him to let go 113 00:08:02,235 --> 00:08:07,555 Speaker 1: of the LA National Guard troops. He's losing in wars. 114 00:08:07,595 --> 00:08:10,755 Speaker 1: He said he'd already settled, or would settle in twenty 115 00:08:10,755 --> 00:08:13,395 Speaker 1: four hours or twenty four days or twenty four weeks. 116 00:08:14,195 --> 00:08:18,675 Speaker 1: Ukraine is further from peace than ever. The Thailand Cambodia war, 117 00:08:18,755 --> 00:08:22,435 Speaker 1: Trump said he ended on Friday, resumed on Saturday. His 118 00:08:22,555 --> 00:08:25,515 Speaker 1: peace in the Middle East saw the Israelis kill a 119 00:08:25,595 --> 00:08:29,395 Speaker 1: top Hamas commander over the weekend. An attack in Syria 120 00:08:29,515 --> 00:08:33,195 Speaker 1: three Americans dead, including two service members, and he promised 121 00:08:33,955 --> 00:08:37,555 Speaker 1: serious retaliation. And he would have sounded tougher if he'd said, 122 00:08:37,795 --> 00:08:40,755 Speaker 1: I'm going to hit you real hard, like I said 123 00:08:40,755 --> 00:08:45,115 Speaker 1: at the top. There are so many els, And for 124 00:08:45,155 --> 00:08:47,635 Speaker 1: twenty seven days at least, there have been nothing but 125 00:08:47,915 --> 00:08:53,355 Speaker 1: els that even Trump has begun to notice. So add 126 00:08:53,355 --> 00:08:56,275 Speaker 1: that to the list of els. His ability to believe 127 00:08:56,275 --> 00:08:59,955 Speaker 1: his own bullshit is showing holes. He still clings to 128 00:08:59,995 --> 00:09:03,595 Speaker 1: this financial imbecility that tariffs will turn the economy into 129 00:09:03,595 --> 00:09:06,835 Speaker 1: a money printing machine, even for people not named Trump 130 00:09:06,995 --> 00:09:10,195 Speaker 1: or Musk or Bezos. But even he has now told 131 00:09:10,235 --> 00:09:14,155 Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal, Yeah, he doesn't know when that 132 00:09:14,475 --> 00:09:19,315 Speaker 1: money printing machine will actually turn on. The Journal interviewed 133 00:09:19,355 --> 00:09:22,675 Speaker 1: him Friday in the Oval, and he must have stepped 134 00:09:22,675 --> 00:09:25,115 Speaker 1: in some reality and couldn't get it off his shoes, 135 00:09:25,875 --> 00:09:29,795 Speaker 1: quoting them. Quoting him, he acknowledged that he couldn't predict 136 00:09:29,955 --> 00:09:34,075 Speaker 1: if that would translate into political gains for Republicans next fall. 137 00:09:34,475 --> 00:09:38,435 Speaker 1: Asked whether Republicans would lose the House in November, Trump 138 00:09:38,475 --> 00:09:42,235 Speaker 1: said quote, I can't tell you. I don't know when 139 00:09:42,315 --> 00:09:46,155 Speaker 1: all of this money is going to kick in narrator, 140 00:09:46,875 --> 00:09:50,755 Speaker 1: It didn't kick in. Wait, there's more. Quote. I've created 141 00:09:50,795 --> 00:09:53,235 Speaker 1: the greatest economy in history, but it may take people 142 00:09:53,275 --> 00:09:57,435 Speaker 1: a while to figure all these things out. Oh they've 143 00:09:57,515 --> 00:10:01,395 Speaker 1: figured it out, Donald, They figured it out. Saturday night, 144 00:10:01,995 --> 00:10:05,755 Speaker 1: when rushing, stumbling, waddling to grab at it, almost literally 145 00:10:06,035 --> 00:10:08,955 Speaker 1: climbing over the bodies of dead students to claim he 146 00:10:09,075 --> 00:10:12,995 Speaker 1: had found their killer, Trump posted this quote, I have 147 00:10:13,115 --> 00:10:15,475 Speaker 1: been briefed on the shooting that took place at Brown 148 00:10:15,555 --> 00:10:18,635 Speaker 1: University in Rhode Island. The FBI is on the scene, 149 00:10:19,635 --> 00:10:23,115 Speaker 1: the suspect is in custody. God bless the victims and 150 00:10:23,155 --> 00:10:29,875 Speaker 1: the families of the victim's exclamation point, F you, buddy, 151 00:10:30,315 --> 00:10:33,275 Speaker 1: you've stepped on your dick again. You've stepped on your 152 00:10:33,355 --> 00:10:37,955 Speaker 1: tiny dick again. While millions mourned and questioned, what is 153 00:10:37,955 --> 00:10:40,875 Speaker 1: wrong with this goddamn country that we throw school kids, 154 00:10:41,195 --> 00:10:45,435 Speaker 1: whether toddlers or teenagers, into the volcano like we were 155 00:10:45,475 --> 00:10:49,315 Speaker 1: practicing the human sacrifice madness of the Aztecs, just to 156 00:10:49,355 --> 00:10:51,915 Speaker 1: protect your right to walk around with a gun. Sure, 157 00:10:51,915 --> 00:10:55,235 Speaker 1: what's another bunch of human hearts? What's another bunch of kids? 158 00:10:55,235 --> 00:10:58,155 Speaker 1: As long as people know that Trump alone has found 159 00:10:58,195 --> 00:11:03,155 Speaker 1: the real killer. Way, what's that you're saying? They haven't 160 00:11:03,155 --> 00:11:06,395 Speaker 1: found the real killer. Hadn't found the real killer when 161 00:11:06,395 --> 00:11:10,195 Speaker 1: he posted that. So now in just three months, Trump's 162 00:11:10,235 --> 00:11:13,155 Speaker 1: bubbleheaded FBI director who didn't know the job meant work. 163 00:11:13,195 --> 00:11:15,635 Speaker 1: He thought it only met a free jet. He wrongly 164 00:11:15,675 --> 00:11:18,715 Speaker 1: said they'd caught the Charlie Kirk assassin. And now Trump 165 00:11:18,715 --> 00:11:21,675 Speaker 1: has made the same mistake and tried to blame his 166 00:11:21,715 --> 00:11:25,475 Speaker 1: mistake on others. And when you do that, and when 167 00:11:25,475 --> 00:11:28,235 Speaker 1: you post that, you open yourself up to attacks from 168 00:11:28,235 --> 00:11:31,115 Speaker 1: the other side, like Chris Murphy attacked on State of 169 00:11:31,115 --> 00:11:34,555 Speaker 1: the Union yesterday. He said it opaquely, he said it 170 00:11:34,555 --> 00:11:37,715 Speaker 1: with nuance. But make no mistake, this is a US 171 00:11:37,835 --> 00:11:40,795 Speaker 1: senator blaming the President of the United States for this 172 00:11:41,515 --> 00:11:48,075 Speaker 1: gun attack and the next gun attack quote. Right now, 173 00:11:48,475 --> 00:11:51,435 Speaker 1: we don't have the leadership in Washington to do anything 174 00:11:51,715 --> 00:11:54,875 Speaker 1: anything to respond to the shooting this weekend. Trump has 175 00:11:54,875 --> 00:11:58,715 Speaker 1: been engaged in a pretty deliberate campaign to try to 176 00:11:58,715 --> 00:12:03,035 Speaker 1: make violence more likely in this country, and I think 177 00:12:03,075 --> 00:12:05,755 Speaker 1: you're unfortunately going to see the results of that on 178 00:12:05,835 --> 00:12:09,395 Speaker 1: the streets of America. He's knowingly restoring gun rights to 179 00:12:09,475 --> 00:12:12,995 Speaker 1: dangerous people. He is cutting off grants that have bipartisan 180 00:12:13,075 --> 00:12:16,035 Speaker 1: support to try to interrupt violence in our cities or 181 00:12:16,075 --> 00:12:19,555 Speaker 1: to try to get necessary mental health resources to families 182 00:12:19,595 --> 00:12:26,635 Speaker 1: and children in need unquote. As I said earlier, this 183 00:12:26,715 --> 00:12:30,075 Speaker 1: has been going on all of these els since at 184 00:12:30,155 --> 00:12:34,075 Speaker 1: least the nineteenth of November, when enough MAGA congressmen realized 185 00:12:34,075 --> 00:12:36,955 Speaker 1: that only one of these things could happen. They could 186 00:12:36,995 --> 00:12:40,355 Speaker 1: continue to help Trump hide the Epstein files, or they 187 00:12:40,355 --> 00:12:44,955 Speaker 1: could get re elected. That's why, of all these els, 188 00:12:45,155 --> 00:12:47,995 Speaker 1: the biggest Trump loss in the last twenty seven days 189 00:12:47,995 --> 00:12:50,475 Speaker 1: may have been the release of those four pictures of 190 00:12:50,555 --> 00:12:55,715 Speaker 1: him with Jeffrey Epstein. The photos show nothing. The photos 191 00:12:55,715 --> 00:12:58,955 Speaker 1: would therefore normally mean nothing, but they serve as a 192 00:12:58,955 --> 00:13:02,275 Speaker 1: reminder that Trump tried to stop you from seeing photos 193 00:13:02,315 --> 00:13:05,875 Speaker 1: of him with Epstein, that those photos that were released 194 00:13:05,915 --> 00:13:09,075 Speaker 1: weren't part of that tranch in the files. That doesn't matter. 195 00:13:09,115 --> 00:13:12,395 Speaker 1: It only raises a kind of instinctive speculation about how 196 00:13:12,515 --> 00:13:16,755 Speaker 1: much worse those other Epstein Trump photos might be. It 197 00:13:16,875 --> 00:13:20,075 Speaker 1: keeps the Epstein story alive when Trump could have killed 198 00:13:20,075 --> 00:13:23,715 Speaker 1: it weeks ago, months ago, even if there was stuff 199 00:13:23,755 --> 00:13:27,595 Speaker 1: more incriminating about him than say, a drawn of the 200 00:13:27,715 --> 00:13:30,715 Speaker 1: naked woman made out to Epstein that he may or 201 00:13:30,755 --> 00:13:33,275 Speaker 1: may not have drawn. But he's sure as shit signed 202 00:13:33,355 --> 00:13:38,875 Speaker 1: right over the naughty bits. Instead of moving Epstein off 203 00:13:38,915 --> 00:13:40,995 Speaker 1: the table and out of the picture, he's letting it 204 00:13:41,115 --> 00:13:45,235 Speaker 1: drip drip drip on him. The photos mean nothing, yet 205 00:13:45,275 --> 00:13:48,395 Speaker 1: here they are just another element that says this is 206 00:13:48,515 --> 00:13:52,235 Speaker 1: Trump's scandal. The way the constant coverage of Clinton Lewinsky, 207 00:13:52,755 --> 00:13:55,995 Speaker 1: even when there was no actual news for days, for weeks, 208 00:13:56,355 --> 00:13:59,435 Speaker 1: kept that front of mind for all of the year 209 00:13:59,555 --> 00:14:03,155 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight. I'll tell you something at MSNBC in 210 00:14:03,235 --> 00:14:05,995 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight the promo. But used to ask our 211 00:14:06,115 --> 00:14:10,795 Speaker 1: staffers every day to give them something, anything, a news 212 00:14:10,995 --> 00:14:14,195 Speaker 1: morsel that could turn into a thirty second promo for 213 00:14:14,315 --> 00:14:17,635 Speaker 1: tomorrow's show. And on Thursday they used to have to 214 00:14:17,635 --> 00:14:22,715 Speaker 1: turn something into a promo for Monday's show. Monday on 215 00:14:22,755 --> 00:14:26,235 Speaker 1: the White House in crisis, we were locking in the 216 00:14:26,315 --> 00:14:30,875 Speaker 1: crisis four days in advance. We were programming the crisis. 217 00:14:31,435 --> 00:14:34,315 Speaker 1: And when we hit Friday, and those files are by 218 00:14:34,395 --> 00:14:37,075 Speaker 1: law required to be released, whatever is released will be 219 00:14:37,075 --> 00:14:41,315 Speaker 1: another Trump L. And whatever isn't released will be another 220 00:14:41,435 --> 00:14:44,635 Speaker 1: Trump L. And lord knows how many l's there will 221 00:14:44,635 --> 00:14:47,515 Speaker 1: be if there's something actually startling in the files. And 222 00:14:47,595 --> 00:14:50,395 Speaker 1: that's the point. It doesn't have to be a good 223 00:14:50,435 --> 00:14:53,795 Speaker 1: scandal to be a gripping scandal. It just has to 224 00:14:53,835 --> 00:14:58,595 Speaker 1: have new stories every day. That's what Clinton Lewinsky's true 225 00:14:58,635 --> 00:15:02,755 Speaker 1: meaning was. And as Philip Bump pointed out, Trump basically 226 00:15:02,755 --> 00:15:07,195 Speaker 1: got elected by knowing this. There wasn't crap actually in 227 00:15:07,235 --> 00:15:10,195 Speaker 1: wiki leaks or her emails, except that there was only 228 00:15:10,235 --> 00:15:16,755 Speaker 1: something new in them. So in some more losses than 229 00:15:16,795 --> 00:15:20,115 Speaker 1: the nineteen sixty two New York mets, or if you 230 00:15:20,155 --> 00:15:22,435 Speaker 1: are a current New York Mets fan more losses than 231 00:15:22,435 --> 00:15:25,915 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five twenty six offseason New York Mets. 232 00:15:26,395 --> 00:15:28,995 Speaker 1: And maybe it's only one hour a week, but even 233 00:15:29,075 --> 00:15:32,715 Speaker 1: Trump knows it. During that hour, and way more than 234 00:15:32,755 --> 00:15:36,555 Speaker 1: one hour a week, the Trump media industrial complex knows it. 235 00:15:36,555 --> 00:15:40,475 Speaker 1: It's not my habit to quote the insufferable, inexhaustible phony 236 00:15:40,555 --> 00:15:43,555 Speaker 1: Peggy Noonan. But when there's a column in the goddamned 237 00:15:43,595 --> 00:15:47,795 Speaker 1: Rupert Murdoch goddamned Wall Street Journal titled quote Trump may 238 00:15:47,835 --> 00:15:51,635 Speaker 1: be losing his touch, Yeah, I'm quoting it. One hundred 239 00:15:51,675 --> 00:15:54,515 Speaker 1: and thirty six words. I swear that's it for this year. 240 00:15:54,675 --> 00:15:56,435 Speaker 1: Just one hundred and thirty six words. And don't be 241 00:15:56,555 --> 00:16:00,315 Speaker 1: thrown by the imaginary world in which Peggy Noonan lives. 242 00:16:00,955 --> 00:16:05,115 Speaker 1: She still thinks Ronald Reagan isn't in hell, and now 243 00:16:05,155 --> 00:16:09,835 Speaker 1: she thinks Charlie Kirk was a mediating force inside the 244 00:16:09,915 --> 00:16:14,235 Speaker 1: Trump cult. Okay, just go with that, But the other 245 00:16:14,315 --> 00:16:20,915 Speaker 1: points she makes are salient and deadly. Quote outside Washington, 246 00:16:20,995 --> 00:16:24,835 Speaker 1: mister Trump's base is fighting with itself. America first is 247 00:16:24,875 --> 00:16:31,035 Speaker 1: saying I'm not maga conspiracies all over Israel killed Charlie 248 00:16:31,635 --> 00:16:35,435 Speaker 1: the assassination of Charlie Kirk, she writes, looks increasingly like 249 00:16:35,675 --> 00:16:39,395 Speaker 1: an epical event. Did he understand how much he was 250 00:16:39,435 --> 00:16:42,995 Speaker 1: holding together the Trumpian right Without the force of his 251 00:16:43,275 --> 00:16:48,795 Speaker 1: mediating presence, they are cracking up percolating below unseen is 252 00:16:48,835 --> 00:16:52,315 Speaker 1: the price you pay in time for success? The President's 253 00:16:52,355 --> 00:16:58,395 Speaker 1: border triumph, sorry what? The president's border triumph will likely 254 00:16:58,435 --> 00:17:02,115 Speaker 1: weaken his and maga's political position. He shut down illegal 255 00:17:02,115 --> 00:17:05,035 Speaker 1: immigration on the southern border, which had been more less 256 00:17:05,035 --> 00:17:08,915 Speaker 1: open for decades. But it was anger at illegal immigration 257 00:17:09,155 --> 00:17:12,635 Speaker 1: noonan rights that kept his base cleaved to him and 258 00:17:12,755 --> 00:17:16,075 Speaker 1: allied with each other. Remove the issue that made you, 259 00:17:16,515 --> 00:17:18,875 Speaker 1: and you can no longer use it to gain votes 260 00:17:18,995 --> 00:17:25,555 Speaker 1: or maintain unity. Unquote Oh no, oh, dear Trump's lost 261 00:17:25,595 --> 00:17:29,715 Speaker 1: his touch. God damn shame not going to affect those 262 00:17:29,835 --> 00:17:33,515 Speaker 1: midterms and give us enough Democratic congressman to impeach him 263 00:17:33,555 --> 00:17:37,435 Speaker 1: and enough Democratic senators to remove him. Is it? Oh? 264 00:17:37,515 --> 00:17:41,115 Speaker 1: Really you think so wow? That'll be fun? Let me 265 00:17:41,195 --> 00:17:46,155 Speaker 1: quote this RNC blob gruters again, quoting me again, quoting 266 00:17:46,195 --> 00:17:50,915 Speaker 1: al Davis again. Republicans will go down and will go 267 00:17:51,035 --> 00:18:12,355 Speaker 1: down hobb okay. Two quick media notes The CBS evening 268 00:18:12,395 --> 00:18:15,755 Speaker 1: news about Barry Weiss, edited by Barry Weiss, anchored by 269 00:18:15,795 --> 00:18:19,555 Speaker 1: Barry Weiss, starring Barry Weiss, is not going so well. 270 00:18:20,155 --> 00:18:22,235 Speaker 1: If she had not been put there to do something 271 00:18:22,355 --> 00:18:25,155 Speaker 1: bad like this, her stay on this job might be 272 00:18:25,395 --> 00:18:30,675 Speaker 1: as long as RONA. Romney's glorious hour and a half 273 00:18:30,955 --> 00:18:35,395 Speaker 1: as an MSNBC commentator. It was Brian Steinberg and Variety 274 00:18:35,435 --> 00:18:38,915 Speaker 1: who noticed this, and to whom all credit goes, And I'm 275 00:18:38,955 --> 00:18:41,115 Speaker 1: just going to quote him and read his story from 276 00:18:41,195 --> 00:18:45,395 Speaker 1: Variety that Barry Weiss town hall with Erica Kirk, the 277 00:18:45,515 --> 00:18:48,955 Speaker 1: merry widow, the woman who used all the eyeliner left 278 00:18:48,995 --> 00:18:53,915 Speaker 1: over after jd Vance got done. No real advertiser was 279 00:18:53,955 --> 00:18:57,875 Speaker 1: willing to buy time on it. No real advertiser was 280 00:18:57,915 --> 00:19:02,595 Speaker 1: willing to buy time on the CBS television network. Mister 281 00:19:02,675 --> 00:19:08,035 Speaker 1: Steinberg writes headline, Big advertisers appear wary of CBS News's 282 00:19:08,075 --> 00:19:12,875 Speaker 1: Barryweiss town Hall format during a Saturday night town hall 283 00:19:12,995 --> 00:19:15,675 Speaker 1: led by Barry Weiss, the recently named editor in chief 284 00:19:15,755 --> 00:19:19,275 Speaker 1: of CBS News, and I believe she liked the article 285 00:19:19,395 --> 00:19:23,395 Speaker 1: so far most of Madison Avenue sought an off ramp. 286 00:19:23,515 --> 00:19:27,555 Speaker 1: Steinberg writes the News special aired at eight pm on Saturday, 287 00:19:27,675 --> 00:19:31,355 Speaker 1: one of the least watch hours in broadcast TV, and 288 00:19:31,395 --> 00:19:35,075 Speaker 1: that may have contributed to a relative dearth of top 289 00:19:35,115 --> 00:19:39,435 Speaker 1: advertisers appearing to support the show during the hour. Commercial 290 00:19:39,435 --> 00:19:44,275 Speaker 1: breaks were largely filled with spots from direct response advertisers, 291 00:19:44,275 --> 00:19:50,115 Speaker 1: including the taietary supplement super Beats, the home repair service 292 00:19:50,235 --> 00:19:56,115 Speaker 1: HomeServe dot com, and Carfax, a supplier of auto ownership data. 293 00:19:56,715 --> 00:20:00,955 Speaker 1: Viewers of the telecast on WCBS, CBS's flagship station in 294 00:20:00,995 --> 00:20:05,355 Speaker 1: New York even saw a commercial for Giampet, the terra 295 00:20:05,435 --> 00:20:09,235 Speaker 1: cotta figure that sprouts plant life after a few weeks. 296 00:20:10,555 --> 00:20:14,395 Speaker 1: I wonder if CBS will still sprout plant life after 297 00:20:14,435 --> 00:20:18,595 Speaker 1: a two weeks, continuing the article quote. A more moneyed 298 00:20:18,635 --> 00:20:21,795 Speaker 1: class of sponsors was evident during the first commercial break, 299 00:20:21,795 --> 00:20:25,755 Speaker 1: appearing in the nine pm hour on CBS a rebroadcast 300 00:20:25,755 --> 00:20:28,275 Speaker 1: of a twenty twenty four episode of forty eight Hours. 301 00:20:28,635 --> 00:20:34,355 Speaker 1: Marketers appearing included Amazon, Ferrero Group, and Procter and Gamble. Unquote, 302 00:20:35,915 --> 00:20:39,995 Speaker 1: uh oh, Congratsbery Weiss and the Ellisons. You've turned CBS 303 00:20:39,995 --> 00:20:45,635 Speaker 1: News into overnights. On superstation WTBS in nineteen seventy six, 304 00:20:46,835 --> 00:20:51,235 Speaker 1: got a Ginsu knife collection for sale Airberry. But wait, 305 00:20:51,275 --> 00:20:54,675 Speaker 1: what was that again about chiapets? Viewers of the telecast 306 00:20:54,715 --> 00:20:57,955 Speaker 1: on WCBS. CBS was flagship station in New York even 307 00:20:57,995 --> 00:21:01,475 Speaker 1: saw commercial for Chiapet the terracotta figure that sprout's plant 308 00:21:01,515 --> 00:21:05,155 Speaker 1: life after a few weeks. Oh my god, Chia Pet Company, 309 00:21:05,275 --> 00:21:07,955 Speaker 1: I'll give you one thousand dollars if you make a 310 00:21:08,035 --> 00:21:14,475 Speaker 1: Barry Weiss chia pet. Please, oh please, please, please please please. Meanwhile, 311 00:21:14,515 --> 00:21:17,515 Speaker 1: something that a week ago would have outdrawn the Barry 312 00:21:17,515 --> 00:21:21,235 Speaker 1: Weiss town Hall with Tammy fay Baker Kirk may now 313 00:21:21,315 --> 00:21:25,715 Speaker 1: belong to the Ages as well as Vivid as parts 314 00:21:25,795 --> 00:21:29,035 Speaker 1: of the latest Ryan Lizzer response to Olivia Newsy may 315 00:21:29,075 --> 00:21:32,475 Speaker 1: have been the whole thing has collapsed under the realization 316 00:21:32,555 --> 00:21:37,195 Speaker 1: that actually the only guaranteed audience for Lizz's segments have 317 00:21:37,315 --> 00:21:46,955 Speaker 1: been Olivia's other exes. Hey her book first week out, 318 00:21:47,715 --> 00:21:53,315 Speaker 1: first publication week, maximum visibility. As you probably have not heard, 319 00:21:53,675 --> 00:21:57,155 Speaker 1: her book, the first week sold. With all that publicity, 320 00:21:57,195 --> 00:21:59,475 Speaker 1: including the most thorough job of The New York Times 321 00:21:59,475 --> 00:22:03,155 Speaker 1: ever missing the lead and the next twenty off leads 322 00:22:03,195 --> 00:22:08,235 Speaker 1: in its history, that book sold and sixty five copies 323 00:22:09,075 --> 00:22:12,475 Speaker 1: a book that sold five thousand copies the same week, 324 00:22:12,595 --> 00:22:20,075 Speaker 1: placed fiftieth among nonfiction sellers. Not great, Bob. So, barring 325 00:22:20,155 --> 00:22:22,555 Speaker 1: anything else that might come up later on in this 326 00:22:22,635 --> 00:22:25,755 Speaker 1: to which I could add something that is either relevant 327 00:22:25,915 --> 00:22:28,955 Speaker 1: or true, I'll bow out here. But I do want 328 00:22:28,995 --> 00:22:32,515 Speaker 1: to read one last paragraph, because this is the easiest 329 00:22:32,555 --> 00:22:35,555 Speaker 1: way for me to get mister lendsa an answer he 330 00:22:35,595 --> 00:22:39,995 Speaker 1: apparently needs. Let me quote him. Quote Olivia, this person 331 00:22:40,075 --> 00:22:43,035 Speaker 1: said was starting to tell people that I might kill her. 332 00:22:43,675 --> 00:22:45,955 Speaker 1: I tried to explain that Olivia watched a lot of 333 00:22:46,075 --> 00:22:48,915 Speaker 1: Law and Order growing up and has an active imagination, 334 00:22:49,355 --> 00:22:52,435 Speaker 1: especially when it comes to being killed. She feared that 335 00:22:52,475 --> 00:22:54,995 Speaker 1: her mother would kill her. She had told me that 336 00:22:55,075 --> 00:22:57,955 Speaker 1: she thought Keith might kill her, and now I have 337 00:22:58,075 --> 00:23:00,515 Speaker 1: to assume she told Keith the same thing about me. 338 00:23:01,155 --> 00:23:03,595 Speaker 1: Of course, she repeatedly told me that she feared Bobby 339 00:23:03,635 --> 00:23:06,195 Speaker 1: would kill her. Now she was saying that I might 340 00:23:06,315 --> 00:23:08,675 Speaker 1: kill her. I never heard her say one way or 341 00:23:08,715 --> 00:23:11,835 Speaker 1: the other about Mark Sandford's level of interest in killing her. 342 00:23:12,755 --> 00:23:15,675 Speaker 1: That's a good line. So many people were out to 343 00:23:15,755 --> 00:23:17,915 Speaker 1: kill her, and yet here she was, at thirty one, 344 00:23:18,435 --> 00:23:24,115 Speaker 1: somehow very much alive. End quote. Okay, Ryan. I haven't 345 00:23:24,155 --> 00:23:27,435 Speaker 1: talked to her since twenty fifteen, and by the way, 346 00:23:27,515 --> 00:23:30,835 Speaker 1: every contact I've had with her since twenty fifteen was 347 00:23:30,875 --> 00:23:34,075 Speaker 1: about what to do with her clothes or about the 348 00:23:34,115 --> 00:23:36,795 Speaker 1: health of what had been our dogs, about which she 349 00:23:36,915 --> 00:23:40,075 Speaker 1: had no interest, for which I will never forgive her, 350 00:23:40,315 --> 00:23:44,475 Speaker 1: and which I think summarizes her. Once I did post 351 00:23:44,555 --> 00:23:49,355 Speaker 1: on Facebook twenty eighteen, maybe that the place in Central 352 00:23:49,395 --> 00:23:52,115 Speaker 1: Park that you two guys like to hang out at 353 00:23:52,675 --> 00:23:56,195 Speaker 1: was my utter coincidence, right on the path I walked 354 00:23:56,275 --> 00:23:59,475 Speaker 1: the dogs every day, and way too near my home, 355 00:23:59,675 --> 00:24:02,355 Speaker 1: and it was a miracle we hadn't run into each 356 00:24:02,395 --> 00:24:06,755 Speaker 1: other already. So maybe we should all make that our DMZ. 357 00:24:08,195 --> 00:24:12,635 Speaker 1: But about the killing her question, exhale Ryan, she never 358 00:24:12,675 --> 00:24:15,595 Speaker 1: told me she thought you might kill her. She only 359 00:24:15,675 --> 00:24:23,075 Speaker 1: told me she thought you were stalking her. Also of interest, 360 00:24:23,115 --> 00:24:25,755 Speaker 1: here a top governor tries to insist Democrats have a 361 00:24:25,795 --> 00:24:28,355 Speaker 1: hand in political violence in this country. And this would 362 00:24:28,395 --> 00:24:31,715 Speaker 1: just be stupid if this governor weren't a Democrat, and 363 00:24:31,755 --> 00:24:35,355 Speaker 1: if he weren't the democratic governor whose fascist haters tried 364 00:24:35,395 --> 00:24:39,115 Speaker 1: to burn him and his family alive in their own 365 00:24:39,195 --> 00:24:44,235 Speaker 1: home during passover. Worst Persons is next This is Countdown. 366 00:24:46,515 --> 00:25:11,315 Speaker 1: This is Countdown with Keith Oberman still ahead on this 367 00:25:11,475 --> 00:25:14,435 Speaker 1: edition of Countdown. Sixty five years ago this month, a 368 00:25:14,475 --> 00:25:17,395 Speaker 1: little boy named Theo Dall was hit by a New 369 00:25:17,475 --> 00:25:20,275 Speaker 1: York City cab while being pushed across the street in 370 00:25:20,355 --> 00:25:23,955 Speaker 1: his baby carriage. He was never the same, nor was 371 00:25:23,995 --> 00:25:26,915 Speaker 1: his father, who, in part to entertain his stricken son, 372 00:25:27,555 --> 00:25:30,395 Speaker 1: wrote a book called Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. And 373 00:25:30,435 --> 00:25:33,035 Speaker 1: although the next development was not quite on that level 374 00:25:33,075 --> 00:25:36,755 Speaker 1: of importance, the writing of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory 375 00:25:36,875 --> 00:25:40,835 Speaker 1: led me to write to Theo's dad, who was the 376 00:25:40,915 --> 00:25:45,555 Speaker 1: legendary both good and bad legendary Roal Doll, to write 377 00:25:45,635 --> 00:25:48,475 Speaker 1: him a fan letter, and he wrote back, and he 378 00:25:48,515 --> 00:25:52,795 Speaker 1: wrote back again, And these letters are referenced somehow in 379 00:25:52,995 --> 00:25:58,595 Speaker 1: Roald Dahl's official biography. This very strange story ahead in 380 00:25:58,675 --> 00:26:01,435 Speaker 1: things I promised not to tell first of believe it 381 00:26:01,515 --> 00:26:03,875 Speaker 1: or not, there's still more new idiots to talk about. 382 00:26:03,915 --> 00:26:06,915 Speaker 1: The roundup of the disagreants, morons and Dunning Kruger effects 383 00:26:06,915 --> 00:26:12,955 Speaker 1: specimens who constitute today's other worst persons in the world. 384 00:26:13,755 --> 00:26:18,675 Speaker 1: The runner up to the runner up Bronze, Anna Paulina 385 00:26:18,835 --> 00:26:22,755 Speaker 1: Luna the congresswoman from Smolensk. I know, I'm sorry, I 386 00:26:22,755 --> 00:26:26,315 Speaker 1: got that wrong from Florida. Problem is she might as 387 00:26:26,355 --> 00:26:29,555 Speaker 1: well be and it might as well be Smolensk. The 388 00:26:29,635 --> 00:26:33,555 Speaker 1: Russian Embassy in the US social media account has posted 389 00:26:33,595 --> 00:26:38,715 Speaker 1: her photo and quote at the invitation by at Rep. Luna, 390 00:26:38,875 --> 00:26:45,115 Speaker 1: Ambassador Dartkiev visited her Christmas reception on Capitol Hill. Wonderful 391 00:26:45,155 --> 00:26:50,035 Speaker 1: event with warm atmosphere and exceptional hospitality. Continue working to 392 00:26:50,075 --> 00:26:55,355 Speaker 1: make Russian American relations great again. Yeah. Sorry, anybody who 393 00:26:55,435 --> 00:26:58,115 Speaker 1: thinks we should have great relations with Russia before the 394 00:26:58,195 --> 00:27:02,635 Speaker 1: Russians overthrow the Putent dictatorship is to totally loyal to 395 00:27:02,675 --> 00:27:08,595 Speaker 1: this country, but really dumb. Not loyal and dumb. Sorry, 396 00:27:08,915 --> 00:27:12,435 Speaker 1: Russia is our enemy, but there are degrees of how 397 00:27:12,515 --> 00:27:14,995 Speaker 1: truly not you can be. And from the Twitter ex 398 00:27:15,035 --> 00:27:19,275 Speaker 1: account of the gadfly Jay in Kiev comes this addendum 399 00:27:19,315 --> 00:27:22,515 Speaker 1: to that photo of Luna to whom the Russians gave 400 00:27:22,595 --> 00:27:26,835 Speaker 1: their JFK quote files unquote, because why would they ever 401 00:27:26,915 --> 00:27:31,795 Speaker 1: give America fake historical records or disinformation? Jay in Kiev 402 00:27:31,995 --> 00:27:35,795 Speaker 1: notes and quoting him since August when her and Steve 403 00:27:35,835 --> 00:27:39,515 Speaker 1: Whitcoff met some of Putin's representatives at a Miami hotel 404 00:27:39,915 --> 00:27:44,475 Speaker 1: owned by Russian business partner of Witcoff. US Congresswoman Anna 405 00:27:44,515 --> 00:27:48,035 Speaker 1: Paulina Luna has been a prolific member of the Russian 406 00:27:48,115 --> 00:27:53,555 Speaker 1: government's Paid Influencers program, turning her ex timeline into display 407 00:27:53,635 --> 00:27:58,675 Speaker 1: case of NonStop Kremlin talking points. Jay in Kiev writes 408 00:27:58,755 --> 00:28:03,555 Speaker 1: and continues, what she does isn't illegal. Today she gleefully 409 00:28:03,595 --> 00:28:07,915 Speaker 1: met her handler unquote yikes. I don't know if she's 410 00:28:07,915 --> 00:28:12,115 Speaker 1: a paid influencer or a paid Influencer's program member. That's 411 00:28:12,235 --> 00:28:15,995 Speaker 1: Jay's assertion. I do know she operates under an adopted name. 412 00:28:16,195 --> 00:28:20,715 Speaker 1: She was born Anna Paulina Meyerhoffer. Right, your arm is Meyerhoffer, 413 00:28:21,155 --> 00:28:24,795 Speaker 1: and she has the IQ of a goldfish on a 414 00:28:24,795 --> 00:28:28,475 Speaker 1: good day to goldfish. The runner up worser, Governor Josh 415 00:28:28,515 --> 00:28:31,875 Speaker 1: Shapiro of Pennsylvania. Now, look, I get what he's trying 416 00:28:31,915 --> 00:28:35,595 Speaker 1: to do here, but it's Pollyanna to the point of ridiculousness. Worse, 417 00:28:35,635 --> 00:28:39,435 Speaker 1: it's Pollyanna to the point of John fetterman esque. Remember 418 00:28:39,475 --> 00:28:42,475 Speaker 1: that they tried to burn the governor and his family 419 00:28:42,635 --> 00:28:46,555 Speaker 1: alive and burn them to death in his home in 420 00:28:46,595 --> 00:28:51,275 Speaker 1: the Governor's residence just last April during the holidays, and 421 00:28:51,355 --> 00:28:56,355 Speaker 1: he is still both sides political violence in America. Governor 422 00:28:56,395 --> 00:28:59,795 Speaker 1: Shapiro writes, quote, it shouldn't be hard to mourn the 423 00:28:59,835 --> 00:29:02,595 Speaker 1: loss of the Minnesota Speaker of the House, Melissa Hortman, 424 00:29:02,835 --> 00:29:05,875 Speaker 1: after she was gunned down in her bed. It shouldn't 425 00:29:05,915 --> 00:29:09,555 Speaker 1: be hard to follow Erica Kirk's eulogy with an amen 426 00:29:09,955 --> 00:29:12,355 Speaker 1: and a prayer for her and her family. We have 427 00:29:12,395 --> 00:29:15,315 Speaker 1: a crisis of political violence in this country and it 428 00:29:15,395 --> 00:29:19,915 Speaker 1: requires all of us to do better every time. No, 429 00:29:19,995 --> 00:29:24,315 Speaker 1: we don't. We have a crisis of conservative, fascist, maga 430 00:29:24,355 --> 00:29:27,395 Speaker 1: republican political violence in this country. And I will say 431 00:29:27,435 --> 00:29:31,875 Speaker 1: this again, the assassination of Charlie Kirk was and is indefensible, 432 00:29:32,715 --> 00:29:36,835 Speaker 1: But so was Charlie Kirk. He was a terrible destructive force. 433 00:29:37,235 --> 00:29:40,995 Speaker 1: And the sane washing of him calls for the execution 434 00:29:41,115 --> 00:29:44,875 Speaker 1: of President Biden. Things like that that he did forcing 435 00:29:44,995 --> 00:29:48,155 Speaker 1: kids to watch public hangings, that he called for putting 436 00:29:48,235 --> 00:29:52,675 Speaker 1: public hangings on TV. Charlie Kirk called for that Saine washing. 437 00:29:52,795 --> 00:29:56,515 Speaker 1: All that is appalling, And I get what Josh Shapiro 438 00:29:56,675 --> 00:29:59,075 Speaker 1: is trying to do, but my god, man, the right 439 00:29:59,115 --> 00:30:02,035 Speaker 1: wingers tried to burn you to death, and you are 440 00:30:02,075 --> 00:30:05,235 Speaker 1: acting like this guy was Saint Charlie of Kirk and 441 00:30:05,275 --> 00:30:09,835 Speaker 1: his rage filled wife is Jackie Kennedy. Preach all the 442 00:30:09,955 --> 00:30:13,715 Speaker 1: condemn all political violence sermons you want, Governor, but the 443 00:30:13,835 --> 00:30:18,035 Speaker 1: right is going to continue to attack physically Democrats and 444 00:30:18,155 --> 00:30:21,955 Speaker 1: liberals and you know, our form of government, and as 445 00:30:21,995 --> 00:30:25,235 Speaker 1: it turns out, any Republican who disagrees with them, like 446 00:30:25,275 --> 00:30:28,115 Speaker 1: the ones in Indiana, and then they will insist that 447 00:30:28,155 --> 00:30:32,075 Speaker 1: it's only the liberals who do all the political violence. Governor, 448 00:30:32,515 --> 00:30:35,475 Speaker 1: They're gonna do that as they have now for twenty years. 449 00:30:35,955 --> 00:30:39,395 Speaker 1: You should not help them. They are doing fine on 450 00:30:39,435 --> 00:30:44,555 Speaker 1: this by themselves. Do not join the both sides in parade, Governor, 451 00:30:45,315 --> 00:30:47,875 Speaker 1: especially since these are the people who tried to kill you. 452 00:30:48,635 --> 00:30:53,075 Speaker 1: But our winner is Howard Lutnik, chief bullshit advisor to Trump. 453 00:30:53,395 --> 00:30:55,235 Speaker 1: I mean, there are lots of toadies and there are 454 00:30:55,275 --> 00:30:58,195 Speaker 1: lots of liars around Trump, but this guy may be 455 00:30:58,355 --> 00:31:02,075 Speaker 1: the champion. I am indebted to my former NBC colleague 456 00:31:02,115 --> 00:31:06,275 Speaker 1: Carl Kintenia on this one. It's priceless. As Carl noted 457 00:31:06,355 --> 00:31:08,915 Speaker 1: on Face the Nation on April sixth of this year, 458 00:31:09,395 --> 00:31:13,635 Speaker 1: Lutnik said, quote, the army of millions and millions of 459 00:31:13,715 --> 00:31:18,075 Speaker 1: human beings screwing in little screws to make iPhones, That 460 00:31:18,195 --> 00:31:20,875 Speaker 1: kind of thing is going to come to America. The 461 00:31:21,155 --> 00:31:24,435 Speaker 1: army of millions and millions of human beings screwing in 462 00:31:24,435 --> 00:31:27,435 Speaker 1: little screws to make iPhones, That kind of thing is 463 00:31:27,635 --> 00:31:34,875 Speaker 1: going to come to America. Then Lutnick, same guy, same topic, 464 00:31:35,355 --> 00:31:39,315 Speaker 1: goes on CNBC last Thursday, and he says, quote, Remember 465 00:31:39,475 --> 00:31:42,995 Speaker 1: Americans don't have millions of people to screw in little 466 00:31:43,035 --> 00:31:47,275 Speaker 1: screws in iPhones, but we do have capacity to run robotics. 467 00:31:48,195 --> 00:31:51,395 Speaker 1: Remember Americans don't have millions of people to screw in 468 00:31:51,435 --> 00:31:54,715 Speaker 1: little screws in iPhones, but we do have capacity to 469 00:31:54,755 --> 00:31:59,355 Speaker 1: run robot So Trump's ass kissing bullshit artist is bullshitting 470 00:31:59,475 --> 00:32:03,995 Speaker 1: us in both directions. In April, Howard Lutnik promised that 471 00:32:04,035 --> 00:32:07,195 Speaker 1: Trump's America would be where millions of us would be 472 00:32:07,395 --> 00:32:11,515 Speaker 1: screwing in the little screws to make iPhones. By December, 473 00:32:11,595 --> 00:32:14,715 Speaker 1: he is promising that Trump's America will be where millions 474 00:32:14,755 --> 00:32:17,475 Speaker 1: of us will not be screwing in the little screws 475 00:32:17,515 --> 00:32:21,435 Speaker 1: to make iPhones. The arrogance and the degree to which 476 00:32:21,475 --> 00:32:24,755 Speaker 1: this man will say anything to try to make it 477 00:32:24,835 --> 00:32:29,355 Speaker 1: seem like Trump isn't screwing this economy into the ground 478 00:32:30,035 --> 00:32:34,275 Speaker 1: is seriously astonishing, even in the context of the world 479 00:32:34,355 --> 00:32:38,555 Speaker 1: in which we live today. Howard, may I suggest you 480 00:32:38,715 --> 00:32:44,475 Speaker 1: screw your little screws in yourself, Lutnik Today's other worst 481 00:32:45,275 --> 00:33:15,955 Speaker 1: person in the world. If the name Royal Dahl does 482 00:33:15,995 --> 00:33:18,155 Speaker 1: not immediately ring a bell for you. He was the 483 00:33:18,195 --> 00:33:21,235 Speaker 1: author of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, and thus the 484 00:33:21,315 --> 00:33:24,315 Speaker 1: creator of Willy Wonka, and he wrote James and the 485 00:33:24,355 --> 00:33:27,995 Speaker 1: Giant Peach, and all of his kids books combined have 486 00:33:28,155 --> 00:33:32,555 Speaker 1: sold about a quarter of a billion copies Dead since 487 00:33:32,635 --> 00:33:36,275 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety. Two years ago, Forbes placed Dall first on 488 00:33:36,355 --> 00:33:39,395 Speaker 1: its list of the top earning dead celebrities, ahead of 489 00:33:39,475 --> 00:33:43,915 Speaker 1: Prince and Michael Jackson. Royal Dahl made about five hundred 490 00:33:43,915 --> 00:33:47,515 Speaker 1: and thirteen million dollars in twenty twenty one, compared to 491 00:33:47,795 --> 00:33:51,795 Speaker 1: thirteen million by the late John Lennon. And that is 492 00:33:51,835 --> 00:33:54,395 Speaker 1: where the problems began. And if you have not heard 493 00:33:54,395 --> 00:33:57,315 Speaker 1: about the problems, the first is Royal Dahl was often, 494 00:33:57,355 --> 00:34:00,235 Speaker 1: as somebody on Twitter put it succinctly, he was often 495 00:34:00,275 --> 00:34:05,955 Speaker 1: the C word. He was at times anti Semitic, racist, misogynistic, 496 00:34:06,035 --> 00:34:11,355 Speaker 1: and cruel, and his writing was at times anti Semitic, racist, misogynistic, 497 00:34:11,395 --> 00:34:14,955 Speaker 1: and cruel. None of that has ever really slowed down 498 00:34:14,955 --> 00:34:18,075 Speaker 1: his book sales, though, largely because first, kids who read 499 00:34:18,115 --> 00:34:21,515 Speaker 1: books are actually smarter than nearly every adult thinks they are. 500 00:34:21,955 --> 00:34:25,675 Speaker 1: And second, it seemed then and now that the more 501 00:34:25,795 --> 00:34:29,875 Speaker 1: problematic a lot of Doll's characters were, the smarter he 502 00:34:29,955 --> 00:34:34,875 Speaker 1: made them. The Umphilumpas of Willy Wonka are not Doll's 503 00:34:34,955 --> 00:34:38,355 Speaker 1: finest moments. On the other hand, they do run everything 504 00:34:38,435 --> 00:34:41,715 Speaker 1: in the chocolate factory. They know everything about the ticket 505 00:34:41,755 --> 00:34:45,195 Speaker 1: winning kids and their foibles. And when Violet turns into 506 00:34:45,235 --> 00:34:49,515 Speaker 1: a giant blueberry, and when Veruka gets devoured by squirrels, 507 00:34:50,115 --> 00:34:53,075 Speaker 1: it is the Umphilumpas who know how to save them. 508 00:34:53,515 --> 00:34:59,555 Speaker 1: So apparently the Umphluopas are doctors, or at least paramedics. Anyway, 509 00:34:59,595 --> 00:35:02,435 Speaker 1: the reason Royal Dahl made five hundred and thirteen million 510 00:35:02,515 --> 00:35:05,355 Speaker 1: dollars thirty one years after he died was that his 511 00:35:05,515 --> 00:35:09,075 Speaker 1: estate sold the rights to the books to Netflix. By then, 512 00:35:09,115 --> 00:35:11,315 Speaker 1: the book publishers had already brought in a company of 513 00:35:11,355 --> 00:35:16,275 Speaker 1: so called sensitivity readers to rewrite the more troublesome parts 514 00:35:16,315 --> 00:35:19,515 Speaker 1: of Dol's work. We're seeing the first results of this now, 515 00:35:19,555 --> 00:35:22,675 Speaker 1: and it is literally what George Orwell described in his 516 00:35:22,835 --> 00:35:26,995 Speaker 1: novel nineteen eighty four, erasing the past, replacing it with 517 00:35:27,035 --> 00:35:30,635 Speaker 1: a new past, and leaving no indication that any editing 518 00:35:30,755 --> 00:35:34,475 Speaker 1: or changing was done. While I'm assuming it still says 519 00:35:34,475 --> 00:35:36,835 Speaker 1: that in nineteen eighty four, presumably all of that could 520 00:35:36,875 --> 00:35:39,275 Speaker 1: be edited out of Orwell and we'd never know, right. 521 00:35:40,995 --> 00:35:43,355 Speaker 1: But it's even worse than that, because the edits are 522 00:35:43,395 --> 00:35:47,515 Speaker 1: being made not because of some pure if misguided desire 523 00:35:47,555 --> 00:35:50,715 Speaker 1: to make changes reflecting the changes in morays and respect 524 00:35:50,835 --> 00:35:54,115 Speaker 1: changes even the author might want to make. They're being 525 00:35:54,195 --> 00:35:56,555 Speaker 1: done so that the books, according to the publisher, can 526 00:35:56,595 --> 00:36:00,675 Speaker 1: continue to be enjoyed by all today, meaning they did 527 00:36:00,675 --> 00:36:04,115 Speaker 1: this to literally sell more books. This is not even 528 00:36:04,155 --> 00:36:09,035 Speaker 1: about why intentioned censorship. It's about profit. And if all 529 00:36:09,115 --> 00:36:11,835 Speaker 1: that were not bad enough, the rewriting of ro al 530 00:36:11,995 --> 00:36:15,075 Speaker 1: Dahl has from a quality viewpoint, gone about as well 531 00:36:15,075 --> 00:36:18,755 Speaker 1: as the so called restoration of the painting of Jesus 532 00:36:18,835 --> 00:36:22,275 Speaker 1: in Spain in twenty twelve. The painting is now known 533 00:36:22,355 --> 00:36:27,635 Speaker 1: as monkey Christ or potato Jesus. Apart from the wholesale 534 00:36:27,675 --> 00:36:30,755 Speaker 1: elimination of words like fat and ugly, the publishers have 535 00:36:30,795 --> 00:36:35,275 Speaker 1: decided to take out references that no kid would ever notice. 536 00:36:35,355 --> 00:36:39,875 Speaker 1: She went to India with Rudyard Kipling becomes she went 537 00:36:39,915 --> 00:36:47,955 Speaker 1: to California with John Steinbeck. Why. In his story The Witches, 538 00:36:48,155 --> 00:36:51,035 Speaker 1: Roul Dahl has the hero believe that all witches are 539 00:36:51,235 --> 00:36:54,075 Speaker 1: bald and wear wigs and gloves, and that's a way 540 00:36:54,115 --> 00:36:58,075 Speaker 1: to check. Don't be foolish, my grandmother said. You can't 541 00:36:58,075 --> 00:37:00,315 Speaker 1: go around pulling the hair of every lady you meet, 542 00:37:00,355 --> 00:37:02,995 Speaker 1: even if she is wearing gloves. Just you try it 543 00:37:03,035 --> 00:37:06,395 Speaker 1: and see what happens. That would be an admonition not 544 00:37:06,515 --> 00:37:09,195 Speaker 1: to believe that everybody with a wig is a witch. 545 00:37:09,835 --> 00:37:12,635 Speaker 1: It has now been changed to don't be foolish, my 546 00:37:12,715 --> 00:37:16,115 Speaker 1: grandmother said. Besides, there are plenty of other reasons why 547 00:37:16,155 --> 00:37:19,315 Speaker 1: women might wear wigs, and there's certainly nothing wrong with that. 548 00:37:22,515 --> 00:37:25,795 Speaker 1: It's like Shakespeare. Now. Look, it is one thing if 549 00:37:25,835 --> 00:37:28,315 Speaker 1: you are giving a public reading of Tom Sawyer, and 550 00:37:28,355 --> 00:37:30,595 Speaker 1: you may want to drop a couple of words here 551 00:37:30,675 --> 00:37:35,595 Speaker 1: and there. I have performed James Thurber's stories since twenty 552 00:37:35,715 --> 00:37:40,155 Speaker 1: ten on TV on radio on this podcast in Person, 553 00:37:40,715 --> 00:37:43,995 Speaker 1: his epic story by the way, forecasting Trump the greatest 554 00:37:44,035 --> 00:37:47,315 Speaker 1: man in the World, is coming up shortly. Thurber's daughter 555 00:37:47,435 --> 00:37:50,835 Speaker 1: Rosie offered me the right to edit anything I felt 556 00:37:50,915 --> 00:37:54,235 Speaker 1: I needed to edit for time or for taste, and 557 00:37:54,315 --> 00:37:56,355 Speaker 1: said there was plenty in there. Her dad would be 558 00:37:56,395 --> 00:38:00,675 Speaker 1: mortified by today that he wrote. Letting me edit it, though, 559 00:38:00,835 --> 00:38:03,675 Speaker 1: is like saying, hey, you have a heart, so that 560 00:38:03,715 --> 00:38:07,195 Speaker 1: means you can perform heart surgery. But the goal in 561 00:38:07,275 --> 00:38:10,515 Speaker 1: doing that is to change as little as possible. There 562 00:38:10,555 --> 00:38:14,395 Speaker 1: are adjectives that were once perfectly normal and seemingly liberal, 563 00:38:14,395 --> 00:38:17,355 Speaker 1: and once thought even to be complimentary that you really 564 00:38:17,395 --> 00:38:20,795 Speaker 1: need to just skip, So when you're reading them aloud, 565 00:38:20,955 --> 00:38:26,475 Speaker 1: just skip them, but erase them permanently forever from Thurber's books, 566 00:38:26,915 --> 00:38:31,715 Speaker 1: when maybe a note to new readers would be sufficient warning. Plus, 567 00:38:31,795 --> 00:38:35,475 Speaker 1: if I'm changing anything about Thurber while transforming his work 568 00:38:35,515 --> 00:38:39,675 Speaker 1: into a different medium like podcasts, I am necessarily going 569 00:38:39,715 --> 00:38:44,235 Speaker 1: to edit things. A movie might leave out nine tenths 570 00:38:44,235 --> 00:38:47,635 Speaker 1: of any novel, but just reading a novel aloud might 571 00:38:47,795 --> 00:38:51,075 Speaker 1: change something as important as the emphasis on the way 572 00:38:51,195 --> 00:38:55,435 Speaker 1: certain words were said from the way the author intended 573 00:38:55,435 --> 00:38:58,835 Speaker 1: that emphasis to be. Besides which, all those changes are temporary. 574 00:38:59,235 --> 00:39:04,035 Speaker 1: I'm not altering Thurber's text. I'm altering my reading of 575 00:39:04,115 --> 00:39:07,675 Speaker 1: his text next. And the same goes for Royal Dahl. 576 00:39:08,315 --> 00:39:09,955 Speaker 1: And a lot of people saying this are people who 577 00:39:09,955 --> 00:39:13,515 Speaker 1: do not like Royal Dall. Sir Solomon rushed. He wrote, 578 00:39:13,675 --> 00:39:17,635 Speaker 1: he was a self confessed anti Semite with pronounced racist leanings, 579 00:39:17,835 --> 00:39:19,955 Speaker 1: and he joined in the attack on me back in 580 00:39:20,035 --> 00:39:23,995 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine. Royal Dahl was no angel. But this 581 00:39:24,195 --> 00:39:28,915 Speaker 1: is absurd censorship, puffin books and the doll estate should 582 00:39:28,915 --> 00:39:32,835 Speaker 1: be ashamed, because that's the point. If we're going to 583 00:39:32,995 --> 00:39:37,395 Speaker 1: edit or otherwise circumscribe every book or author, or film 584 00:39:37,595 --> 00:39:40,315 Speaker 1: or producer with a significant problem, we're going to wind 585 00:39:40,395 --> 00:39:42,875 Speaker 1: up with a world library of about fifty books and 586 00:39:42,955 --> 00:39:47,595 Speaker 1: ten films. I mean, this isn't Florida. And artists, like people, 587 00:39:47,675 --> 00:39:50,875 Speaker 1: are rarely all good or all bad, and often they 588 00:39:50,915 --> 00:39:55,715 Speaker 1: have huge disturbing flaws which can, in their own way, 589 00:39:55,835 --> 00:40:00,115 Speaker 1: teach you what not to do or be in life. 590 00:40:00,235 --> 00:40:02,915 Speaker 1: The publishers defended doing this on the premise that Roald 591 00:40:02,955 --> 00:40:06,595 Speaker 1: Dahl's works have always been edited and modified, that he 592 00:40:07,435 --> 00:40:11,235 Speaker 1: permanently changed the description of those umpah lumpas several times 593 00:40:11,395 --> 00:40:14,475 Speaker 1: to make it less offensive. And again that misses the 594 00:40:14,515 --> 00:40:18,875 Speaker 1: point he made those changes, not his publishers, not his 595 00:40:18,955 --> 00:40:23,035 Speaker 1: literary estate, not you, not me, him. And if you're 596 00:40:23,035 --> 00:40:25,595 Speaker 1: wondering why I'm going on so long about this, it's 597 00:40:25,595 --> 00:40:28,955 Speaker 1: because this is personal for me. I think I learned 598 00:40:28,995 --> 00:40:31,755 Speaker 1: that truth that almost everybody is a mix of good 599 00:40:31,755 --> 00:40:35,075 Speaker 1: and bad, often in big, bright, ugly letters, often with 600 00:40:35,195 --> 00:40:40,675 Speaker 1: extraordinary self contradictions. I learned all that from Royal Dahl. 601 00:40:42,035 --> 00:40:45,035 Speaker 1: Sometime in the second half of March nineteen sixty six, 602 00:40:45,155 --> 00:40:48,395 Speaker 1: a letter unlike any other I had seen before arrived 603 00:40:48,435 --> 00:40:50,955 Speaker 1: at our little house in the suburbs of New York City, 604 00:40:51,595 --> 00:40:53,955 Speaker 1: where my parents packed me off each morning to the 605 00:40:53,995 --> 00:40:58,995 Speaker 1: third grade. The words par Avian were printed in the 606 00:40:59,075 --> 00:41:03,195 Speaker 1: upper left, and the postmark was from somewhere called Great Missenden, 607 00:41:04,035 --> 00:41:08,115 Speaker 1: and the address see was me. It was a letter 608 00:41:08,275 --> 00:41:12,835 Speaker 1: from Royal Dahl. I had a number of very special 609 00:41:12,875 --> 00:41:15,275 Speaker 1: teachers in my life, but the first of them was 610 00:41:15,315 --> 00:41:19,835 Speaker 1: Missus Marjorie Plant, who survived an entire school year of me. 611 00:41:20,035 --> 00:41:24,275 Speaker 1: In nineteen sixty five and nineteen sixty six, we sidled 612 00:41:24,275 --> 00:41:26,555 Speaker 1: down the hallway to miss Ritz for an hour or 613 00:41:26,635 --> 00:41:28,475 Speaker 1: so of math every day, but the rest of the 614 00:41:28,515 --> 00:41:32,035 Speaker 1: time we were Missus Plant's class. And when she was 615 00:41:32,035 --> 00:41:34,795 Speaker 1: not leading us out to the glorious natural meadow in 616 00:41:34,835 --> 00:41:37,955 Speaker 1: the pond just behind the elementary school and teaching us 617 00:41:37,955 --> 00:41:41,035 Speaker 1: the name of every plant and every tree and every bird, 618 00:41:41,435 --> 00:41:43,835 Speaker 1: she was reading to us, or getting us to read 619 00:41:43,875 --> 00:41:46,395 Speaker 1: to her, or one day asking each of us to 620 00:41:46,515 --> 00:41:50,235 Speaker 1: name our favorite author. Well, I didn't hesitate. My dad 621 00:41:50,275 --> 00:41:53,115 Speaker 1: read to me each night, and it's probable somebody else's 622 00:41:53,195 --> 00:41:55,475 Speaker 1: book was first. And I know he later read me 623 00:41:55,595 --> 00:41:58,675 Speaker 1: Chitty Chitty Bang Bang by Ian Fleming, But the first 624 00:41:58,915 --> 00:42:02,755 Speaker 1: books for me were Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and 625 00:42:02,875 --> 00:42:05,235 Speaker 1: James and the Giant Peach by Royl Doll. And I 626 00:42:05,275 --> 00:42:08,275 Speaker 1: don't know how many times Dad read each of them 627 00:42:08,315 --> 00:42:11,075 Speaker 1: to me, but I now do know that somehow those 628 00:42:11,115 --> 00:42:14,715 Speaker 1: books conveyed to me that books didn't just happen, That 629 00:42:14,835 --> 00:42:18,475 Speaker 1: a grown up like my dad had written them deliberately 630 00:42:18,875 --> 00:42:23,155 Speaker 1: for kids to read and to listen to. And this 631 00:42:23,275 --> 00:42:27,035 Speaker 1: man had clearly included jokes that the kids would get, 632 00:42:27,555 --> 00:42:31,835 Speaker 1: but the grown ups didn't seem to notice, and This 633 00:42:32,075 --> 00:42:35,835 Speaker 1: was this man's job, the way being a draftsman and 634 00:42:35,915 --> 00:42:39,755 Speaker 1: later an architect was my dad's job. That you could 635 00:42:39,995 --> 00:42:43,275 Speaker 1: do this and people would pay you. This is how 636 00:42:43,315 --> 00:42:47,275 Speaker 1: I understood about this. A thousand other writers and broadcasters 637 00:42:47,315 --> 00:42:49,955 Speaker 1: flashed out the details and the specifics for me. But 638 00:42:49,995 --> 00:42:52,955 Speaker 1: the man who opened the first door into the world 639 00:42:52,955 --> 00:42:56,195 Speaker 1: in which perhaps I could write for a living was 640 00:42:56,275 --> 00:43:00,355 Speaker 1: ro Al Dahl. So, Keith, who's your favorite author, Missus Plant, 641 00:43:00,355 --> 00:43:04,155 Speaker 1: asked ro Al Dahl. Missus Plant, knowing her and knowing me, 642 00:43:04,195 --> 00:43:07,595 Speaker 1: she probably said I knew it, and soon after she 643 00:43:07,675 --> 00:43:09,795 Speaker 1: explained that we had an assignment that day. We were 644 00:43:09,835 --> 00:43:13,595 Speaker 1: all going to write. Great. I thought, I'll write another book. 645 00:43:14,235 --> 00:43:16,635 Speaker 1: I had already written something like forty books in Missus 646 00:43:16,715 --> 00:43:22,195 Speaker 1: Plant's class, two or three pages with illustrations, with construction paper, covers, 647 00:43:22,195 --> 00:43:25,275 Speaker 1: with staples, with titles. I wasn't just going to be 648 00:43:25,315 --> 00:43:29,475 Speaker 1: a writer like Royal Dahl. I already was one. Not 649 00:43:29,555 --> 00:43:32,035 Speaker 1: a book today, Keith, she said, I want you all 650 00:43:32,115 --> 00:43:34,795 Speaker 1: to write a letter to your favorite author. I know 651 00:43:34,875 --> 00:43:37,195 Speaker 1: how to get your letters to your author, so you 652 00:43:37,235 --> 00:43:39,595 Speaker 1: don't have to worry about that part. You can ask 653 00:43:39,635 --> 00:43:41,675 Speaker 1: them anything you want in the letter you can tell 654 00:43:41,675 --> 00:43:44,395 Speaker 1: them anything about yourself, but I especially want you to 655 00:43:44,435 --> 00:43:47,235 Speaker 1: tell them why you like their books, and who you 656 00:43:47,315 --> 00:43:51,355 Speaker 1: are and how old you are. And on that day 657 00:43:51,435 --> 00:43:55,595 Speaker 1: in March nineteen sixty six, my favorite author had written 658 00:43:55,715 --> 00:43:59,795 Speaker 1: me back. I had a sense immediately of it being 659 00:43:59,835 --> 00:44:04,595 Speaker 1: a special occasion. I believe only one author besides Royal Dahl, 660 00:44:04,755 --> 00:44:07,435 Speaker 1: replied to anybody in our class. I do know the 661 00:44:07,475 --> 00:44:09,595 Speaker 1: school thought it was a big enough deal to call 662 00:44:09,675 --> 00:44:13,395 Speaker 1: the town newspaper to do a story on it. It's 663 00:44:13,435 --> 00:44:15,555 Speaker 1: not as if I forgot the story, or the letter 664 00:44:15,675 --> 00:44:18,275 Speaker 1: or the sense of wonder at its arrival, either. But 665 00:44:18,395 --> 00:44:22,075 Speaker 1: despite the coverage in the weekly Hastings News, it still 666 00:44:22,115 --> 00:44:24,755 Speaker 1: seemed like a very private family kind of thing. And 667 00:44:24,795 --> 00:44:28,115 Speaker 1: then in twenty ten, somebody told me, maybe it was 668 00:44:28,155 --> 00:44:32,355 Speaker 1: the publisher, that the private family thing had made it 669 00:44:32,395 --> 00:44:36,435 Speaker 1: into the authorized biography of roy Al Dahl, a book 670 00:44:36,475 --> 00:44:41,235 Speaker 1: called Storyteller by Donald Sturrock. He wrote this next part, 671 00:44:41,315 --> 00:44:43,075 Speaker 1: I did not. I think it's okay for me to 672 00:44:43,155 --> 00:44:47,555 Speaker 1: bother it here, quoting mister Sturrock, his stories were encouraging 673 00:44:47,635 --> 00:44:50,195 Speaker 1: children the world over to read books, and that many 674 00:44:50,235 --> 00:44:52,795 Speaker 1: of them loved his stories so much that they felt 675 00:44:52,795 --> 00:44:56,475 Speaker 1: impelled to write and tell him so. The current rate 676 00:44:56,555 --> 00:44:59,155 Speaker 1: of letters from children in the US is between fifty 677 00:44:59,195 --> 00:45:01,875 Speaker 1: and sixty a week. He had written to Mike Watkins 678 00:45:01,915 --> 00:45:04,915 Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty six. I try to answer them all 679 00:45:04,955 --> 00:45:09,595 Speaker 1: with a postcard. Roald was always a diligent and engaging correspondent, 680 00:45:09,635 --> 00:45:11,595 Speaker 1: and if he was in the right mood and thought 681 00:45:11,595 --> 00:45:15,595 Speaker 1: a child's letter particularly imaginative, he or she would receive 682 00:45:15,635 --> 00:45:19,475 Speaker 1: a fuller and more memorable response. When the sports journalist 683 00:45:19,555 --> 00:45:23,075 Speaker 1: and television anchorman Keith Olberman was seven years old and 684 00:45:23,435 --> 00:45:26,715 Speaker 1: head of maps in his class at school, he wrote 685 00:45:26,755 --> 00:45:29,275 Speaker 1: to Dahl from Hastings on Hudson in New York and 686 00:45:29,355 --> 00:45:31,875 Speaker 1: told him at some length about his own writing ambitions 687 00:45:31,875 --> 00:45:36,475 Speaker 1: and successes. Roald's reply was thoughtful, generous, and full of 688 00:45:36,595 --> 00:45:41,875 Speaker 1: gentle ironic humor. My dear Keith, he began, It was 689 00:45:41,955 --> 00:45:45,715 Speaker 1: wonderful to receive a letter from a fellow author. It 690 00:45:45,835 --> 00:45:48,955 Speaker 1: meant so much more than the usual ordinary message from 691 00:45:48,995 --> 00:45:51,955 Speaker 1: a mere reader. As head of maps, you will be 692 00:45:51,995 --> 00:45:54,995 Speaker 1: able to calculate very easily what a long way your 693 00:45:55,075 --> 00:45:57,035 Speaker 1: letter had to travel in order to reach me in 694 00:45:57,075 --> 00:46:01,675 Speaker 1: this little village, thousands of miles The postman, an elderly 695 00:46:01,715 --> 00:46:04,475 Speaker 1: fellow who comes on foot, knocked on the door this morning, 696 00:46:04,835 --> 00:46:08,315 Speaker 1: said I have a letter from you, from Kay Ulderman 697 00:46:08,395 --> 00:46:12,355 Speaker 1: of Hastings, USA. I said, how do you know? He said, 698 00:46:12,675 --> 00:46:15,595 Speaker 1: it says so on the envelope. He is a very 699 00:46:15,635 --> 00:46:18,475 Speaker 1: inquisitive postman, and he likes to know who is writing 700 00:46:18,515 --> 00:46:22,875 Speaker 1: to me. Who is Ulberman, asked the postman. I opened 701 00:46:22,875 --> 00:46:25,915 Speaker 1: the letter and read it. He is a writer, I said, 702 00:46:26,435 --> 00:46:30,995 Speaker 1: he has written more books than me. Oldraman's parents later 703 00:46:31,075 --> 00:46:33,755 Speaker 1: told the local newspaper that the letter had given the 704 00:46:33,795 --> 00:46:37,755 Speaker 1: boy the kick of his young life. Missus Ulriman added 705 00:46:37,755 --> 00:46:39,875 Speaker 1: that it just about proves that there are still some 706 00:46:40,035 --> 00:46:42,275 Speaker 1: very nice people left in this old, beat up world. 707 00:46:42,595 --> 00:46:45,595 Speaker 1: If all adults acted with such loving attention to children, 708 00:46:45,795 --> 00:46:49,675 Speaker 1: would it not be wonderful? Dahl was quite sincere when 709 00:46:49,715 --> 00:46:52,595 Speaker 1: he argued that he thought children alone were decent judges 710 00:46:52,595 --> 00:46:55,075 Speaker 1: of whether a book written for them was any good 711 00:46:55,195 --> 00:46:57,595 Speaker 1: or not. In nineteen sixty two, he had written to 712 00:46:57,635 --> 00:46:59,995 Speaker 1: a child critic of James and the Giant Peach to 713 00:47:00,115 --> 00:47:02,315 Speaker 1: tell him that up to now, a whole lot of 714 00:47:02,355 --> 00:47:04,795 Speaker 1: grown ups have written reviews, but none of them have 715 00:47:04,915 --> 00:47:07,435 Speaker 1: really known what they were talking about, because a grown 716 00:47:07,515 --> 00:47:10,155 Speaker 1: up talking about a children's book is like a man 717 00:47:10,715 --> 00:47:16,435 Speaker 1: talking about a woman's hat. The author, mister Sterrock not 718 00:47:16,475 --> 00:47:19,435 Speaker 1: only put me in the authorized biography of Royal Dall, 719 00:47:19,475 --> 00:47:22,195 Speaker 1: he also put me in the index there. I am 720 00:47:22,675 --> 00:47:27,795 Speaker 1: right between David Ogilvie, the advertising legend, and Sir Laurence Olivier. 721 00:47:29,915 --> 00:47:32,275 Speaker 1: Left out of Sterrock's account and the quotes from my 722 00:47:32,395 --> 00:47:34,355 Speaker 1: mother was the fact that mom was a fan of 723 00:47:34,395 --> 00:47:38,555 Speaker 1: the actress Patricia Neil, Royal Dahl's wife, and she had 724 00:47:38,595 --> 00:47:42,795 Speaker 1: read horror stories about their marriage and about Neil's stroke 725 00:47:42,915 --> 00:47:46,835 Speaker 1: and Dol's tough love during her recovery. As I began 726 00:47:46,915 --> 00:47:49,555 Speaker 1: to appreciate her point of view and Dall's books at 727 00:47:49,555 --> 00:47:51,995 Speaker 1: the same time and his letter to me, I began 728 00:47:52,075 --> 00:47:56,075 Speaker 1: to formulate a theory that not everybody was just one thing, 729 00:47:56,275 --> 00:47:58,835 Speaker 1: that you could be good and bad and shouldn't be 730 00:47:58,915 --> 00:48:03,195 Speaker 1: judged on just half of yourself. Naturally, I wrote my 731 00:48:03,275 --> 00:48:06,035 Speaker 1: new pen pal back he had mentioned having a son 732 00:48:06,075 --> 00:48:09,475 Speaker 1: about my age. In fact, Theo Dahl had been born 733 00:48:09,595 --> 00:48:11,875 Speaker 1: in New York just like I was, but at the 734 00:48:11,915 --> 00:48:15,355 Speaker 1: age of four months in his baby carriage, Theo was 735 00:48:15,435 --> 00:48:18,915 Speaker 1: hit by a cab, and his injuries were so profound 736 00:48:19,355 --> 00:48:22,595 Speaker 1: that for a while he was blind and Royal Dahl 737 00:48:22,715 --> 00:48:26,395 Speaker 1: himself had helped to develop a shunt used to drain 738 00:48:26,595 --> 00:48:30,355 Speaker 1: swelling in Theo's brain to make his life better and 739 00:48:30,435 --> 00:48:33,395 Speaker 1: more worthwhile I did not know any of this when 740 00:48:33,395 --> 00:48:36,115 Speaker 1: I mentioned, among other mundating details, that a seven year 741 00:48:36,155 --> 00:48:38,435 Speaker 1: old was likely to tell an adult in a letter 742 00:48:38,635 --> 00:48:42,715 Speaker 1: that my middle name was Theodore. I also apparently included 743 00:48:42,715 --> 00:48:45,875 Speaker 1: some poems I had written. And I know this because 744 00:48:45,915 --> 00:48:50,875 Speaker 1: sure enough Rol Dahl wrote back again. This next letter 745 00:48:50,915 --> 00:48:53,675 Speaker 1: did not come for nearly a year. My dear Keith. 746 00:48:53,755 --> 00:48:57,995 Speaker 1: It begins dated February second, nineteen sixty seven. Your last 747 00:48:58,075 --> 00:49:01,715 Speaker 1: letter was a very good one, So were the poems. 748 00:49:03,115 --> 00:49:08,395 Speaker 1: Imagine the impact of that from your favorite writer right 749 00:49:08,435 --> 00:49:12,555 Speaker 1: after your eighth birthday. But Doll went on, I hope 750 00:49:12,555 --> 00:49:14,635 Speaker 1: you will not become a poet when you grow up, 751 00:49:14,795 --> 00:49:17,795 Speaker 1: because poets have a terribly hard time earning a living. 752 00:49:19,075 --> 00:49:21,715 Speaker 1: I am writing a musical film, he went on, for 753 00:49:21,795 --> 00:49:24,875 Speaker 1: Dick van Dyke, based roughly on Chitty Chitty Bang Bang 754 00:49:25,075 --> 00:49:29,275 Speaker 1: the Flying Motor Car. Could I have mentioned liking this 755 00:49:29,315 --> 00:49:31,675 Speaker 1: book by a different author in my letter to him 756 00:49:31,795 --> 00:49:33,995 Speaker 1: or did he just decide to announce it to me. 757 00:49:35,035 --> 00:49:37,235 Speaker 1: We'll be making it here in England next summer, and 758 00:49:37,275 --> 00:49:39,235 Speaker 1: you can go and see it in nineteen sixty eight, 759 00:49:39,235 --> 00:49:41,875 Speaker 1: when you are nine years old. You will be impressed 760 00:49:41,915 --> 00:49:44,435 Speaker 1: at the things this car is going to do. With 761 00:49:44,635 --> 00:49:50,115 Speaker 1: love from Roal Dahl, I'm sure I wrote again. I 762 00:49:50,115 --> 00:49:54,355 Speaker 1: can almost remember he did not write back. I do 763 00:49:54,435 --> 00:49:57,675 Speaker 1: not recall holding it against him, nor do I now. 764 00:49:58,075 --> 00:50:00,355 Speaker 1: I do recall that when I followed his instructions and 765 00:50:00,355 --> 00:50:02,555 Speaker 1: went to see his movie. I think, in fact it 766 00:50:02,635 --> 00:50:05,395 Speaker 1: was my tenth birthday party in early nineteen sixty nine. 767 00:50:05,595 --> 00:50:10,075 Speaker 1: I was disappointed. Too much girl chasing, not enough car flying. 768 00:50:11,235 --> 00:50:14,635 Speaker 1: Still almost no one is all good or all bad, 769 00:50:14,675 --> 00:50:17,795 Speaker 1: And every new reissue of every Royal Doll book could 770 00:50:17,795 --> 00:50:20,995 Speaker 1: include a twenty page treatise about what was bad about 771 00:50:21,035 --> 00:50:24,195 Speaker 1: him and the negativities in that book and his other writings, 772 00:50:24,755 --> 00:50:29,795 Speaker 1: just so long as it is included instead of rather 773 00:50:29,875 --> 00:50:34,715 Speaker 1: than in addition to the nonsensical rewrites that Puffin publishing 774 00:50:34,795 --> 00:50:38,155 Speaker 1: is produced. Also, I think it might be appropriate to 775 00:50:38,235 --> 00:50:40,995 Speaker 1: mention that though the letters from kids just in the 776 00:50:41,075 --> 00:50:46,555 Speaker 1: US just in nineteen sixty six totaled around what twenty 777 00:50:46,595 --> 00:50:50,755 Speaker 1: five hundred, he tried to answer them all with a postcard, 778 00:50:51,795 --> 00:50:56,995 Speaker 1: or if you were very lucky, a letter, or if 779 00:50:56,995 --> 00:51:01,395 Speaker 1: you were very very lucky, two letters, and to mention 780 00:51:01,755 --> 00:51:19,475 Speaker 1: forty three years later in his official biography, I've done 781 00:51:19,515 --> 00:51:21,675 Speaker 1: all the damage I can do here. Thank you for listening. 782 00:51:21,715 --> 00:51:24,755 Speaker 1: Most of our countdown music was arranged, produced, and performed 783 00:51:24,755 --> 00:51:28,155 Speaker 1: by Brian Ray and John Phillips Chanel, our musical directors 784 00:51:28,115 --> 00:51:31,475 Speaker 1: who Countdown, and it was produced by TKO Brothers. Mister 785 00:51:31,595 --> 00:51:33,755 Speaker 1: Ray was on the guitars, the bass, and the drums. 786 00:51:33,795 --> 00:51:37,795 Speaker 1: Mister Shanelle handled orchestration and keyboards. Our satirical and pithy 787 00:51:37,875 --> 00:51:40,795 Speaker 1: musical comments are by the best baseball stadium organist ever, 788 00:51:40,875 --> 00:51:44,955 Speaker 1: Nancy Faust. The Olderman theme from ESPN two by Mitch 789 00:51:44,995 --> 00:51:48,835 Speaker 1: Warren Davis appears courtesy of ESPN, Inc. And is our 790 00:51:48,995 --> 00:51:52,675 Speaker 1: sports music. And some other music arranged and performed by 791 00:51:52,715 --> 00:51:55,715 Speaker 1: the group No Horns Allowed. My announcer today is my 792 00:51:55,755 --> 00:51:59,795 Speaker 1: friend Dennis Leary. Everything else was, as always my fault. 793 00:52:00,475 --> 00:52:03,155 Speaker 1: So that's countdown for today. Day three hundred and thirty 794 00:52:03,195 --> 00:52:07,075 Speaker 1: of America held hostage again about just one and thirty 795 00:52:07,115 --> 00:52:09,395 Speaker 1: three days until the scheduled end of his lame duck 796 00:52:09,435 --> 00:52:12,955 Speaker 1: and lame brain term unless he is removed sooner by 797 00:52:13,075 --> 00:52:18,235 Speaker 1: Maga and Epstein or Indiana or Anosagnosia or Taile and 798 00:52:18,355 --> 00:52:23,475 Speaker 1: All or affordability or the second Strike video. The next 799 00:52:23,515 --> 00:52:27,235 Speaker 1: scheduled edition of Countdown is Thursday. Until then, I'm Keith Olberman. 800 00:52:27,315 --> 00:52:36,235 Speaker 1: Good morning, good afternoon, goodnight, and good luck. Countdown with 801 00:52:36,355 --> 00:52:40,675 Speaker 1: Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts 802 00:52:40,675 --> 00:52:45,435 Speaker 1: from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever 803 00:52:45,475 --> 00:52:46,835 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts