1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Ron Anian, I think I wore out my vaultmeter this week. 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever done this the Car Doctor. 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: Do you realize that over an a mission scandal that 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: some people are saying, oh, it's not a big deal, 5 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: they've lost twenty three phones. I gotta tell you, I 6 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: don't think the future looks so bright and rosy for Volkswagen. 7 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of ron and Anian, the 8 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: Car Doctor. Since this is where car owners the world 9 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 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Since guys 33 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: figured out I'm busy, Let's get over and kick the 34 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: garage doors open, Doug and where were going on line? 35 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: Let's go to Doug a new Rochelle on ninety seven 36 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: Chevy K fifteen arted line one and start with the 37 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: line one this hour, and we're going to roll along 38 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: because I understand the calls are backed up, some problems 39 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: with a misfire. Doug. Welcome to the car doctor, sir. 40 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: How can I help? Hey, Ron, Happy new Year to 41 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: you and your crew and thanks to take him a call. 42 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: Thank you, sir, Glad to be here for you. What's cooking. Yeah, 43 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: real quick. I got you know, it's a nineties seven, 44 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: it's got a five point seven. Bought tech in it. 45 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: About during the summer. I was like starting to miss 46 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: I was having problems and put it over to the 47 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: local guy. Said it needed to tune up. Okay, I said, 48 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 1: to what you have to do. The guy changed everything 49 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: even I don't know why he changed the whole distributor, 50 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: but it took him a week to get the things 51 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: set right. So evidently the guy he's got working for 52 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: him really isn't that good. So anyways, finally back up running. 53 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: It's about i'd say two weeks ago. It started messing 54 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: up again. I took it to a different guy down 55 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: the street from me. It's pretty reputable guy, expensive, but 56 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 1: I just need the call fix. So he changed the uh. 57 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: I had to get the intake Minopole games because because 58 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: the any free was leaking. He did that. Then he 59 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: said he said that he believes that the main cause 60 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: that he mispot you know all that stuff was the 61 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: spider inject. As he replaced that very very expensive job, 62 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: everything was running. They got it back started running about 63 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: two days later. I had a problem with again. I 64 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: took it back. I left it with him overnight. He 65 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: had to replaced the I A C in the TPS. 66 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: Since he did that, everything's been running. I'm coming home yesterday. 67 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: I stopped somewhere to get back in the car, and 68 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the check engine light starts flashing, 69 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 1: and it got like a misfire code on it. It 70 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: said it was a p O three zero four, said 71 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: selling to them before misfire detected. I'm baffled. You know, 72 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: I'm putting a lot of money into this car and 73 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: getting no results. So let's let's let's go back to 74 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: the beginning, Doug, back in the summer when this started 75 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: having when all this started, right, didn't have a check 76 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: engine light on then? Yeah, okay, I didn't have a 77 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: fault code had to write, believe so. But I just 78 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: don't remember what the heck it was. Was it the 79 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: same cylinder? Was it? Was it a three or four? 80 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: Been the cylinders at all? It was? No, it was 81 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: something with the I think maybe the whatell you called 82 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: uh oh two centses is something if I remember lean 83 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: fuel code, lean FALLT code, maybe one one seventy four 84 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: I think. So I'm down. But it didn't all right, 85 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: here's the deal. What does new mean? How long you're 86 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: listening to this radio show? What does new mean, Doug, 87 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:33,799 Speaker 1: New means never ever worked? Right, So you know every 88 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: part that these guys have put it in the past 89 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: six months, you know, new means never ever worked. I 90 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: had two thousand eleven Jeep Liberty at the shop this 91 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: week that dogged me that had a misfire at a 92 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: P zero three oh three, only when it was warming up, 93 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: only at the exact moment of temperature, only at the 94 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: exact you know, so many seconds had to pass, so 95 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: many minutes and seconds, so much temperature, and then once 96 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: it hit a certain temp point, it was gone right 97 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: all right. Sat there with the scope, I saw the 98 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: primary fail um about the way there, ready to pull 99 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: the trigger on a coil. I never saw the problem 100 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: again the rest of the day and the customers I gave. 101 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: Customers driving the car this weekend, he said, why did 102 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: you just put a coil in it? Because I have 103 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,559 Speaker 1: to put a new coil in it. New doesn't mean good. 104 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: New means never ever worked. And until I confirmed the problem, 105 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: I can't tell you to definitely put that part in. 106 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: My point is what I did on his case was 107 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: I swapped coils one and three is out there driving it. 108 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: Let's see where the fault comes back. But my point 109 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: to you is, you know you've got to go back 110 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: over what's been done at this point. Right. Your biggest 111 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: problem is it was Guy A and now Guy big 112 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: all right, and it sounds like Guy was a little 113 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: bit of a you know, oh boy, uh you know 114 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: what what did they do and how do they do it? 115 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: And my first question and concern is what's the quality 116 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 1: of the parts that were used? Do we have it? 117 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: Do we have something as simple as a parts issue here? 118 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 1: If he put a distributor in it and he didn't 119 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: understand what he was doing, did he treat this like 120 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: he was setting timing? Do you know you don't set 121 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 1: timing on that engine? You do something called you set 122 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: cam shaft retard using a scan tool where you've got 123 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: to bring it over a thousand rpm, look at it 124 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: on a scan tool and set the distributor that way. Well, 125 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,119 Speaker 1: I can tell you that, mom, exactly what you're saying 126 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: is I google it and I came up with that. 127 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: These guys that he's got working for him had no clue. Right, 128 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: That's my point. So I don't know how he got 129 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: it running. So if you know, depending upon how this runs, Listen, 130 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,239 Speaker 1: every time I get involved in a headache, I always 131 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: go back to the beginning. As costly as it's gonna be, 132 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: as as as hardcore expensive and a pain in the 133 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: neck as it's gonna be. You gotta start somewhere, all right. 134 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: You know this is like you had a bad meal, Doug, 135 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: move on to get to a better restaurant, all right, 136 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's just time. It's it's the real 137 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: question is how bad do you want the truck? It's 138 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: twenty years old. I'm not saying it's not I'm not 139 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: saying it's not worth fixing. I'm just saying, don't bemoan 140 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,119 Speaker 1: the point. Just move on, get to the next step, 141 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: find somebody that can diagnose it. The first thing I 142 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: would do is break this down. Look at the quality 143 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: of the parts I've seen, you know, gypsy parts that 144 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: I wouldn't put on a bicycle. And I could have 145 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: something here as simple as a bad new plug wire 146 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,559 Speaker 1: to a bad distributor assembly, I'd be I'd be scared 147 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: to think if if it took them a week to 148 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: get it running, what kind of a distributor. They used 149 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: Who's Who's after market reman piece of junk you know, 150 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: that fell off the truck somewhere and rattled around for 151 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: three years. Because let's face it, it's a ninety seven. 152 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: It's twenty years old. It's not like it's factory fresh. Uh. 153 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: You know how old are these reconditioned parts that they're 154 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: putting on the truck. So there's a lot of factors here. Okay, 155 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: you can't sit here and say, oh my god, it's 156 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: as you know, I'm putting a lot of money in 157 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: this truck, because you may be putting a lot of 158 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: unnecessary money in the truck because the mechanics are dope. 159 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: There's no other way to say it, all right. You know, 160 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: a part changer and and changing parts today creates more 161 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: problems than the problems themselves. I just I just purchased. 162 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: I just purchased this week a snap On Motus their 163 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: scan tool. And in making this decision, and it was 164 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: a business decision, all right, Besides I needed an even 165 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: two dozen in the shop. Um yeah, And I say 166 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: that kiddingly sort of, but you know, in making the decision, 167 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: I said, you know, you need to have a decent 168 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: amount of scan tools to pick from. You need to 169 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: have an arsenal. You need to know what's good and 170 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: what's bad, and and and part of my business decision 171 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: process was simply that, you know, when I look at 172 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: a problem, I want to know that I've got some 173 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: resources because it's it's it's not a game for the 174 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: faint of heart anymore. It's not it's not simple problems anymore. 175 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: And I was talking to the snap on my snap 176 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: On dealer, and I told him, I said, you know, Jay, 177 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: I said, the busy and this today is of the 178 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: cars are fixed with scan tools and sensors and codes. 179 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: You know, it's a P zero one seven. When the 180 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 1: cars running lean you sniff it your your propane that 181 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 1: you find an intake gasket or a battle two or 182 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: a bad mass airflow. It's cut and dry stuff. That 183 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: last becomes real hardcore. Get out the lab scope, which 184 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: is why I bought the motives. It's got a built 185 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 1: in lab scope. I was looking to upgrade one of 186 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: my scopes to something else. And it gives you some 187 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: ability with trouble shooting and a bunch of other information. 188 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: Out of that last full into that category, the last 189 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 1: five percent. Half of them don't get fixed because nobody 190 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: wants to spend the money in the other two and 191 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: a half percent just you'll either beat yourself to death 192 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: or beat the car to death trying to resolve it. 193 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: And my point is that as simple as the business 194 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 1: has become, it's still requires some knowledge. So these guys 195 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: that are just changing parts, if they didn't know what 196 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: cam Retard was, Hale only cal put the wrench down, 197 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 1: step away from the car, buddy. You know, I'm telling 198 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: you that the guy that owns the place is a 199 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: really good mechanic. You work years ago for Ford and 200 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: it's in his four brothers. They got, you know, two 201 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: very well established businesses, but guys he's got working for him. 202 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 1: I don't know where he finds him. Well, honestly, I 203 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: don't want to get into that one. Well, and you 204 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 1: know what, Doug and I don't get into that because 205 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: I don't you know what, I'm not there. I try 206 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: not to judge. All I can say is people come 207 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: in all day long and they say to me, hey, 208 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: you're still fixing cars. Aren't you ready to retire now? 209 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 1: Because my name is still on the building, And um, 210 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: as long as I've got to sit there and and 211 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: and and face the repair. I'm going to continue to 212 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 1: do the repair, and that's the bottom line, because that's 213 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: the way it is a shop. So listen, sir, you 214 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: have a good new year. Get somebody to diagnose that 215 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: you need more help, give me a call. We'll go 216 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: from there. Ron, thanks again, I really appreciate take you. 217 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:55,199 Speaker 1: Take good care of modinay in the car zero. We're 218 00:10:55,200 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: coming back right after this a thousand dollars card working. Hey, 219 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 1: welcome back where I'm needing the car doctor. Let's real quick, 220 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: get over to Brian in Rochester, New York. I believe 221 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: that is O nine buick Brian. Welcome to the car doctor, sir. 222 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 1: How can help? Hey? Ron, how are you well? I'll 223 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: tell you what. I'm enjoying my weekly joint talking to 224 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: you guys. Um, you know believe it. I still I 225 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: still look for Tom figured it out. It's twenty five 226 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: years so I still look forward to doing this twenty 227 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: five years later. So I guess, I guess, yeah, you 228 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: know what it's. It's it's a matter of fact. We 229 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: were off last last weekend and when I picked up 230 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: Tony at the train today, says I gotta tell you, boss, 231 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: it's good to be back. He said. I was lost 232 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: last weekend. I don't know what to do with myself, 233 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: he said. I had all that free time and I 234 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: missed doing the show. So it's this this this thing 235 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: is like it kind of gets under your skin that 236 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: you just want to keep doing it. So but anyway, 237 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: what can I what can I do it for you today? Brian? 238 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: How can I help? Yes? Okay? Um? Like Tom said, 239 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: I have a two thousand nine bauble. Cliffs are in 240 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: c x Helm, okay, And I'm going to be going 241 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: away for a couple of months, and I'm leaving my 242 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: car home. I was. I was just wondering about disconnecting 243 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: the battery, okay, because my biggest concern about that part 244 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: is I have the memory seat from my driver's side. 245 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 1: I was wondering how it's going to affect my radio settings, 246 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 1: and I also have remote control start and the on 247 00:12:56,280 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: Star system is active. It won't affect on Star to 248 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: my knowledge, it will it will in all likelihood wipe 249 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: out the memory seat and wipe out the radio settings, 250 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: depending upon how long. I don't think GM hard memories 251 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: those into them. I've I've and I say that because 252 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: I've had the experience in the shop where we'll do it. 253 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: We'll do a memory saver. When we replace a battery, 254 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: will will plug into the O B D two port 255 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: and use that to save memory. And I've had it 256 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 1: where on certain cars, you know, sometimes it takes five minutes. 257 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: Sometimes it takes twenty minutes because you're putting a battery 258 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: in a car and somebody you have to go look 259 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: at this, You have to go look at that. You 260 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: get interrupted, it'll be a similar model car and it 261 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: won't it won't retain the memory if you don't use 262 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: the memory saver. Um. You know, we try to use 263 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: a memory saver every time, but you know what, sometimes 264 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: you're you're either the tools out or you're just you're 265 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: you're rushing to get your data done. So you know, 266 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: expect that as far as the remote start, that shouldn't matter. 267 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: To my knowledge, that shouldn't matter because that's a that's 268 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: a hard wire, hard memory, that's a safety thing. It's 269 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: got to work a specific way. UM I would I 270 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: would be mildly surprised if it didn't where I would 271 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: expect not a problem, but a change of consequence would 272 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: be that when you disconnect the battery and it loses 273 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: its memory. You're going to have to relearn the car 274 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: in a sense, and you may have to clean the 275 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: throttle body. You may want to have that service done 276 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: prior to disconnecting the battery, and then at least when 277 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: it's you know, when you reconnect the battery, you're starting 278 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: off with a clean throttle body, and you can do 279 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: the relearn right there in the garage. And you know 280 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: this this is a case of look at the front 281 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: door of your house. You've opened in clones, close that 282 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: how many times over how many years you've lived there. 283 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't close as tight anymore. It doesn't 284 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: seal as good anymore, it doesn't sit as flush anymore. 285 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: Dirt builds up, the gas get expands, the wood gets 286 00:14:56,520 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: a little. Things changed with the opening that throttle body. 287 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: Think of a carburetor back in the days when dirt 288 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: was young, and so was the car doctor, and we 289 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: had carburetors on cars, and the throttle plate was there 290 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: at the bottom of the carburetor. That flapper. Well, it 291 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: still builds up carbon. It's worse on throttle body cars now, 292 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: and it'll build up a carbon deposit. The computer learns 293 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: that setting over time. But when you disconnect the memory, 294 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: now you've just taken it from being twelve years old 295 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: to an infant again and has to it has to 296 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: learn all over. So if it's clean, at least when 297 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: you reconnect it, it's learning all over from a base 298 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: setting that's programmed into its software that it shouldn't have 299 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: an effect. Makes sense? And then once once you so 300 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: I would you know when I when you start this, 301 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: when you come back in a couple of months started 302 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: give it, Give it five minutes to find its mind. 303 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: You wake up, you wake up from a deep winter sleep. 304 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: You get five minutes to find your mind. Right, the 305 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: car is no different. Give it a break, Let it 306 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: find its mind. Put it in drive, Put on the brake, 307 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: put it in drive, Turn on the heater, turn on 308 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: the air conditioning, go through a little bit of a 309 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: you know, let it see its engine load. We're looking 310 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: at thinking about electrical and engine load here, and then 311 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: take it for a rode, a little bit of you know, 312 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: easy driving, easy breaking. If you're storing this is this 313 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: gonna be in the garage or out, so it probably 314 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: won't rust the rotors as bad, but it'll probably still 315 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: put some surface rust on the rotors, so you want 316 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: to knock the rust off, you know, depending upon when 317 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: your last break service was done, as far as pads 318 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: and so forth, maybe you want to have the calipers 319 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: pulled and looped up before you go, and you know, 320 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: go away for three months. We don't have anything stick 321 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: or get rusty. Um. You know, those are the kind 322 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: of things you want to think about. And I would 323 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: I would probably over inflate the tires a couple of 324 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: pounds so that when you come back you don't have flats. Yeah, 325 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:08,199 Speaker 1: I know, I know, all right, Okay, okay, No, um, 326 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: if I should the same, well maybe just to lead 327 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: the battery connected as it is, would that pose any 328 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: drawing down? No, because that vehicle is new enough it 329 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: should have a shutoff time. I believe anywhere from twenty 330 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 1: minutes to five to fifty minutes. That system will go 331 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: and shut down and prevent the battery from rundown. It's 332 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: a battery rundown module. But that doesn't that doesn't ensure 333 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 1: that a battery that's sat for three months is going 334 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: to still hold a charge. Yes, that is very true. 335 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 1: So you know, it depends on the age of the battery, 336 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: and it depends on you know, temperature and the environment 337 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: it's stored in. So you know, it's a you got 338 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 1: a nickel in your pocket, toss it, I guess which 339 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: way it comes up. And if you try that, then 340 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,160 Speaker 1: go with that and see which way it works. Um. 341 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: You know. The the other option here is are you 342 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: going to be taking these travels? Are gonna be traveling, 343 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: you know, on a regular basis, Brian, is is this 344 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: something that's going to occur more than once or is 345 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: this a one time thing? No? Actually, we've been doing 346 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: this being my family have been doing this for about 347 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 1: the last four years. Okay. I had a previous BOE 348 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: which was A two thousand, the safer. I always disconnected 349 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 1: the battery, and then when we came back in the spring, 350 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: I mean it's I reconnected and then different animal space, 351 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 1: you know space from from the right Brothers to the 352 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: Space Shuttle. What you may want to do is go 353 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: Google search O B D two um trickle chargers. They're 354 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: out there and you can plug it into the O 355 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: B D two parts and trickle charge the battery that way, 356 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: or do a solar charger. If the vehicles parked outside, 357 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: take a look at that, and consider that I'm on 358 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: an ad in the car Doctor. We're coming back right 359 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: after this book. It back wanting in the car Doctor, 360 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: rolling along attitude free. We're gonna talk to Larry and Pittston, Maine, 361 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: oh for Chevy Silverado. Larry, Welcome to the car Doctors, sir, 362 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: How can I help? How you ron? Uh, I'll get 363 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: an older Well, it's not only two thousand four, it 364 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: is older, but I'm starting to getting quite a few, 365 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: uh minor problems with it still runs fine and and everything, 366 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: but the heater and air conditioner. Actually the air condition 367 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: doesn't work at all. The heat only works on high, 368 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: which is five. And someone was somebody that possibly just 369 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: to relay that might affect both of those, UM, not 370 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: aware of a really that effect both there. Generally when 371 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 1: the blower only works on high, it's a blower resistor issue. Uh. 372 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:09,959 Speaker 1: You know the first thing I would do, because this 373 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: is an O four UM, Well, let me ask Let 374 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: me ask this question, Larry, any other issues with it? 375 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: Anything else not working or working? Yes, just this past 376 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: week the siometer UM has stopped working. Well, it doesn't 377 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: work at all. It's right now sitting on about a 378 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty in sitting in park in my driveways. Ums, 379 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: that's that's a pretty fast park job. Check engine light on. Uh, 380 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: the doputer works okay, just so it's still computing the 381 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: amount of miles that's putting on it. But alright, so works. 382 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: So that means that means the the check engine light's 383 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: not on, is what you're saying. And I bet the 384 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: cruise control would work fine too, if you have I 385 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: don't know if you've tried it. No, I haven't tried 386 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: to cruise control, but I assume it does still work fine, 387 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna I'm gonna go on that assumption because 388 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: that's what it sounds like it's gonna be to me. 389 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: So what's probably wrong with the speedometer spiedometer will start 390 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: with the easy one first. What's probably wrong with the 391 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 1: spiedometer is the cluster itself. They've got a little stepper 392 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: motor in there. Um, you ever play with slot cars 393 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: as a kid, Yeah, So it's just a little electric 394 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: stepper motor like the slot cars we used to sent 395 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: around the track, and they have a habit of getting stuck. 396 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: There's more than a few bulletins out there. At one point, 397 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: GM was doing a quiet sort of make the customer 398 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: happy kind of a recall for these vehicles where they 399 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 1: were exchanging or rebuilding the clusters. Uh, they're probably still 400 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: some out there, and you might as well send the 401 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: whole cluster out and get it done, because sooner or 402 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 1: later the gauges themselves are going to work or are 403 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 1: going to be an issue. Um as well, they're gonna 404 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: hang up. They change vendors on blend on stepper motors, 405 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: and you know that's solve that. So that's I think 406 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 1: a separate problem from all this. But if those are 407 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: the three things we're dealing with, then I'm gonna tell 408 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: you go ahead wise there more. Yeah, I do have 409 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 1: one other thing. The wipers the work when you turn 410 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 1: it off, so they may continue running for two or 411 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:27,479 Speaker 1: three minutes or even until you turn the ignition off. Okay, 412 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna im em in the same way you 413 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: put it on your just on the very low end 414 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: of it, and they'll just keep running. And Okay, I'm 415 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: gonna say that that is switch or motor. It have 416 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: to be diagnosed. But I really think, believe it or not, 417 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: you've got four separate things going on here. Okay, I 418 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 1: I think this parometer is going to be the cluster 419 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: itself and the stepper motors. The wiper I would diagnose 420 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: a is a separate issue, just looking at switching and 421 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: motor operation. Specifically, I would check the motor ground because 422 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: I've seen the motor loss of ground become an issue 423 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: causing those wipers to run more or longer than they should. 424 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 1: Corroded ground, I should say, and um. The UH blower 425 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 1: is generally a blower resistor which is located in the 426 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: EVAPP A C box under the right side of the 427 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: glove box, and the A C not coming on could 428 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 1: be anything from empty system, no charge, bad compressor, a 429 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: switch not sending proper signal to an E C M command. 430 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: So where I was going to start when we began 431 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: this conversation is here's a perfect example of a vehicle 432 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 1: that I would if it were in the shop, I 433 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 1: would perform a full system scan. I turned the key on, 434 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: plugging a scan tool and let it go to town. 435 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 1: I want to know every code that's in this thing. 436 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: I want to know every module that's not happy, and 437 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 1: I want to know what fault code it's setting, and 438 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: that would help me in my diagnosis and if you 439 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: notice there's no check engine light on exactly, so you know, 440 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: here's a case, you know, like I'm always banging the 441 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: drum up on the soapbox about just because the check 442 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: engine light's not on. Scan it. Here's a perfect example 443 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: why And I would, I would, by all means, take 444 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: a look at that and start treating each thing on 445 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: an individual basis. Okay, I was just listening to your 446 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: calling that you had just pride to myself. Uh, would 447 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 1: disconnecting that battery or anything possibly correct any of these problems? 448 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: Don't see how it would? Don't don't don't see how 449 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 1: it would? You know, And that's not a diagnosis, that's 450 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: a guess. I would. I would, I would, And I understand. 451 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 1: You know, listen, we all want to reach for we 452 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,919 Speaker 1: all want the silver bullet, but you know it doesn't 453 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: work that way. It's and as a matter of fact, 454 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:53,360 Speaker 1: disconnecting the battery. Um here, let me explain it like this. 455 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: My job, part of my job here on Radio Larry, 456 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: is to help make you guys better diagnosticians, or just 457 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: even understand the card better. If we start getting in 458 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: the habit of disconnecting the battery, maybe not on this 459 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: job maybe next time the check engine lights on and 460 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 1: you say, hey, you know what, disconnecting the battery worked. 461 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: Let me disconnect the battery. See if I can get 462 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: the check engine light to co out. You'll get the 463 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: check engine light to co out. Okay, Plus all the 464 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: information and freeze frame and code and data is you 465 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 1: know anything that it's stored. You've now just deleted it all. 466 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,719 Speaker 1: So now if the problem that you don't know what 467 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 1: it is gets worse, the next time that light comes on, 468 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,199 Speaker 1: it may not keep the car running, It may put 469 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,959 Speaker 1: you on the side of the road. And you know, 470 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 1: it's not thought about the data that might be stored, right, 471 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: And I don't think there's a lot of data stored 472 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: in your case, not in this case. But you know what, 473 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: until you scan it, you know it's it's it's just 474 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: sort of like, um, do you know what color shirt 475 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna wear tomorrow, Larry? Okay? And you know what, 476 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: you don't know what? You don't know because you don't 477 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: know it. Until you scan this car, you don't know. 478 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: And you know you gotta you gotta go through a 479 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: look giving me some thanks to look at or at 480 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 1: least have a mechanic look at an if they don't 481 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: have a real equipment to work on anything. So ye, no, 482 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: I understand. I'm glad I did, Larry, I'm glad I 483 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: got to you. So all right, sir, you have a 484 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 1: good New year and we'll see you on the other side. Yes, sir, 485 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: zero nine nine zero zero. I'm running any in the 486 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 1: car doctor, I'll be back right after this. Welcome back. 487 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: We'nna in the car doctor. Let's get over and talk 488 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: to Scott Warwick in New York, OH seven Lincoln Town 489 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,719 Speaker 1: car with a battery issue. Yes, Scott, Welcome of the car, doctor, sir, 490 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: how can I help Hi? Great? Great to hear from you. 491 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: I got an issue where when the cars parked the 492 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: battery discharges now and to use the old school way 493 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: with the test light between the negative terminal and the battery. 494 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 1: And I found that when I pulled fuse one four 495 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: team on the right fender well in the fuse box, 496 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: the battery holds the charge. Now that fuse seems to 497 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: control the dashlights, the interior lights, and the car won't 498 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 1: start with the fuse pulled. So where do I go next? 499 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: But that fuse is not part of the charging circuit? No, no, no, 500 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: it's it's draining the battery when parked. Oh oh okay, okay, 501 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:44,239 Speaker 1: you've got a battery drain, got you, okay, so so 502 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: give it to give it to me one more time. 503 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: When it's parked, the battery discharges. Now, when I parked 504 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: the car, I pulled the hood, open up the battery. 505 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: The fuse panel on the right front fender well, and 506 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: I pull out fuse one four team. The battery stays charged. 507 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: That fuse control of the dash lights. The whole dash 508 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: goes out, the interior lights and in the car wound 509 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: crank when you turn the key with that. Does it 510 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: control the sunvisor? Is there lights in the sunvisors that 511 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if there's highlights in the sun If 512 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: there's lights in the sun visors, and that that fuse 513 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: controls it. If I was module yeah, well if if 514 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 1: I'm from my seat here, if I'm guessing and I 515 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: want to look for the silver bullet, first first thing 516 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: I'm doing is I'm checking to see if the sunvisors 517 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 1: are an issue. I've seen it where the wires break, 518 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 1: they short internally, the lights stay on. It's almost like 519 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: you have to. And one of the ways you find 520 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: it because the only other choice you've got here is 521 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: you're on the circuit. Now you've got to get a 522 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: wiring diagram and start to look for you know what 523 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: on that circuit. Can you disconnect and isolate circuit by 524 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: circuit off that fuse one at a time? All right? 525 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: But if I want to cheat because I'm lazy, you know, 526 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: my job as a mechanic is to get way to 527 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: the problem as fast as I can before I get 528 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: to the whole problem as fast as I can, So 529 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: I gotta get you halfway. So what you know, Listen, 530 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: there have been nights I stayed late at the shop. 531 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: It's dark, all the lights are out. I'll sit and 532 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: I'll wait any lights coming on? No, okay, And I'll 533 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: start to look around the car, and I will look 534 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: at sun visors and I'll see you can see the 535 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: dim of the light through the visor. It's on even 536 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: in the closed position. All right, Now, you know that 537 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: that'd be the first place I've seen it where the 538 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: wires break well. And actually if they break in the 539 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: roof line or in the headliner, that's a case of 540 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: that'll blow the fuse. But in the case of a draw, 541 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: I'm looking for a ball. Now, do you have a 542 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: do you have a digital volt domemeter? Scott, can you 543 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: put an ant? Can you so? Can you put an 544 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: ampmeter on that? And get a milliamp draw? Tell me 545 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: how many amps it is or how many milliams it is? 546 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: You know, if this is two amps, we're looking for 547 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: a ball. But this is five amps, we're looking for 548 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: a module, you know, that kind of a thing. We 549 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: start to look at the amount of the draw and say, okay, 550 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: because of the size, you know, we're looking for something 551 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: this big or that big. Start to do all his law. 552 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: You know, it's a twelve vault circuit. You know how 553 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: much resistance is in there? You know, put an average 554 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: resistance number in there? Pick something and you know, or 555 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: do it the other way. If it's if it's twelve 556 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: vaults and two amps, figure out resistance. Now go back 557 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: and figure twelve vaults resistance. Start playing with the resistance 558 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: number until you get to the one you've got. If 559 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: that seems like a reasonable resistance for the circuit, that 560 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: kind of makes sense. Now you can go and pick 561 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: and Sarah, is this a bulb? Is this a module? 562 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: Is this a component? What is this? And and and 563 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: start to look at it this way, if it if 564 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: it makes you feel any better, you know, electrical draws 565 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: like this are kind of maddening. Just just this week, 566 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: I picked up a thermal imager. We're gonna try this 567 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: technology going into to detect the heat from the source. 568 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: You know, just you know it's gonna We picked up 569 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: the snap on thermal. I made the snap on guy 570 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: very happy this year. At Christmas, um I I bought 571 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: a thermal injury imager and a new scan tool. But 572 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: we uh um, you know, you take a picture of it, 573 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: you'll see the heat source and it helps you track 574 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: it down. So the technology is getting better because the 575 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: problems are getting more difficult to find, and you know 576 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: that's what we're dealing with. By the way, I used 577 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: the thermal imager on the dryer at the house this 578 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: morning and I found the leaky gas getting and replaced that. 579 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: So the dryers fixed at home too. So you know 580 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: what you apply technology, it works. I'm getting my money's 581 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 1: worth absolutely baby. All right, you're very welcome, Scott. You 582 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: take good care. Um, real quick piece of email. This 583 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: came out, you know, in the first hour. This comes 584 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: to us from Jerry. I was talking about maintenance schedules, 585 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: Jerry writes. He says, hey, ron maintenance schedule, and I 586 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: rav four calls for an oil change every ten thousand 587 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: miles in a tire rotation every five thousand miles. The 588 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: latter seems excessive to me? Do you agree? Um? The 589 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: bad You know? How many miles is the cargo? Does it? 590 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: You know what kind of shape of the tires in 591 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: is this? You know? Is this a front wheel drive 592 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: and all wheel drive? What kind of tires? What kind 593 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: of condition? I think? You know again what I think 594 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: is out of whack. Here is the old change every 595 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: ten thousand miles. Here's what I want everybody to do. 596 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: You wanna have some fun next year? The first time 597 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: everybody goes in for an oil change next year to 598 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: their dealership or their manufacturer, let's say it like that, 599 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: or their repair shop, and they're calling for an oil 600 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: change beyond seven thousand miles, ask them to see the 601 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: specsheet on the oil filter they're using. Tell them you 602 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: want to see You know, hey, I want to know 603 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: that this oil filter is gonna work beyond seven thousand miles. 604 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: I haven't seen it yet. You know, some oil filters 605 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: will some of the wicks filters will go, you know, 606 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,479 Speaker 1: beyond seven and eight thousand miles. Some of them will 607 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: go to ten. But mainstream what's available to most repair 608 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: shops on a regular steady basis, it's not in the marketplace. 609 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: People don't want to pay for it. So you know 610 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 1: that at Oe, Toyota filter, that Oe Honda filter, Forward Filter, 611 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: gen whatever, none of them are rated to go beyond 612 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: seven thousand miles that I've seen, and all the engineers 613 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: that I've talked to, because automobiles are all about numbers. 614 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 1: Let's face it, numbers build the car. Talk to an engineer. 615 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: You know, none of the filters I've seen go beyond 616 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: that mark. Unless it's specifically suited for high mileage, it's 617 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: not gonna work. So you know what, Jerry, I think 618 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: the tire rotation is probably more along the lines of 619 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: every six to eight, depending upon how you operated. Put 620 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: that oil change at ten, No, sir, I think that's wrong. 621 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: I think that's asking for a problem. And um, I 622 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: think you should question them on how good that oil 623 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: filter is before you start wanting to go with a 624 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: ten thousand mile oil change interval. And ps, if you 625 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 1: are changing the oil every ten thousand miles. Start checking 626 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: it at five thousand miles and be careful because when 627 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: it runs low, if you don't catch it, you're going 628 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: to create a problem later in life when that vehicle 629 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: has seventy and eighty thousand miles on it. Zero zero. 630 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: I'm running eating of the car doctor. I'm coming back 631 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:31,359 Speaker 1: right after this. That's right. I just want to bang 632 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: on the toolbox all day and keep on fixing cars, 633 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 1: run on nading the car doctor here. Zero zero. Quick 634 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: comment about a repair this week in the shop. One 635 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 1: of the one of the outside shops brought us a 636 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: two thousand five Mercury Milan for a computer reflesh um. 637 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 1: And by the way, if you're a uh Milan or 638 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: a Fusion, actually it was a two thousand eight Milan. 639 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: But if you're a Fusion or Milan owner that generation, 640 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: be aware that there is a bulletin out there that 641 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: specifically talks about this problem. One of the ignition coil 642 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:11,839 Speaker 1: drivers in the PCM stuck on, took out one. It 643 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 1: took out the coil, subsequently blew the coil, took out 644 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: the PCM, which is already bad anyway, and created a 645 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 1: very expensive repair. They put six coils in it. Put 646 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 1: a computer in it, brought me the vehicle because I 647 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 1: had a flash it. They don't do flashing, and I 648 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 1: flashed it, you know, went through and installed new software 649 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 1: so the computer would wake up and do its job. 650 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 1: I asked them specifically, and they gave it to me 651 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: for both or as many ignition keys as the vehicle had. 652 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 1: And this is gonna become a common thing. And this 653 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 1: is you know, be aware now when you dropped the 654 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 1: car off for repair, you may get asked this question. 655 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 1: And it's not that the shop is doing something funny. 656 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: There's no shenanigans going on. But I needed all the 657 00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,280 Speaker 1: keys in order to learn the anti theft system because 658 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,359 Speaker 1: what happened was put a new computer in it, put 659 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: new software in it. When I did that, I erased 660 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 1: the memory of the PCM of the engine controller as 661 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 1: far as what ignition keys it expected to see to 662 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:19,439 Speaker 1: allow the vehicle to start. Did the reflash PCM work 663 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,879 Speaker 1: it had software had to go through and do a 664 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 1: PATS or a security system reset and relearn the ignition keys. 665 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,760 Speaker 1: You need a minimum on a forward product of two keys. 666 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: Vehicle manufacturers they all vary, so not having those two keys, 667 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 1: that vehicle would have sat there, so you know what, 668 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: when you're doing flashing, it's a whole another world, but 669 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:40,879 Speaker 1: be aware of shot may ask you for that. Hey, 670 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 1: until the next time. I had to quick shout out 671 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: and say thank you to my guys for being here 672 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 1: this New Year's Eve. Until the next time brought anna card. 673 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,240 Speaker 1: Doctor mechanical are expensive, they're priceless.