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Speaker 1: the Celebrity Bracket Challenge with March Madness, got a lot

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Speaker 1: of great people in there. Fritzie, of course, has been

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Speaker 1: asking for some big names. Probably not smart of him

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Speaker 1: to go after some names who have no idea who

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Speaker 1: I am or this show is, but for Fritzie's ego

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Speaker 1: to be able to reach out to beautiful women around

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Speaker 1: the world, it certainly helps. So Todd, how are we

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Speaker 1: doing on the Celebrity Frontier for the Bracket Challenge? Pretty well?

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Speaker 1: Actual Michael Boubley, who the last couple of years was

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Speaker 1: it this year. He was on the Boobley the Past,

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Speaker 1: couple blue blows on the March, Madness and Ramsey not

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Speaker 1: in yet but didn't say no there. Okay, George Brett

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Speaker 1: mention for you. We love George Brett. Kirk Cousins is

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Speaker 1: going to do something. I don't care about the guys.

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Speaker 1: I care about the women you've asked who've said no.

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Speaker 1: Some of the women who said no include Does and

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Speaker 1: Dia and Drew Barrymore. A real bummer, that's DIA's not

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Speaker 1: who that's That's a real bummer. Yeah. Everyone America's sweetheart

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Speaker 1: a few weeks ago. Yeah, yeah, everybody loves Drew Barrymore.

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Speaker 1: She used to be America's sweetheart. Yeah yeah, yeah, who else?

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Speaker 1: John said, Carrie Underwood, Kristen Bell was too busy. Jacqueline

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Speaker 1: Smith from the Old Charlie's angelis, Oh my god, what

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Speaker 1: are you doing with Sandra Ambrosio? Ya, he's Richard's also

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Speaker 1: recently us not her thing? I think it's what the

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Speaker 1: if these young kids around you. We might have to

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Speaker 1: ear muff this. But Drew Barrymore was the very first

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Speaker 1: Playboy magazine that I was like, we gotta get that one.

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Speaker 1: been in a couple of movies with Drew. She's a wonderful,

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Speaker 1: very nice woman, and of course you know her and

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Speaker 1: Sandler are great friends. Yeah. What other women? Margot Robbie

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Speaker 1: said no, Yeah, but Kelly Clarkson is strongly considering, as

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Speaker 1: is a Dylan Dryer. The NBC Today Weather Woman does

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Speaker 1: a show some animals show on the weekend. It's not

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Speaker 1: a joke. This is not a bit pretty good about

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Speaker 1: Dylan Dryer. And uh, I think a few others are

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Speaker 1: gonna come. What about nobody loves local reporters, anchors, weather

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Speaker 1: people like Todd There are several Connecticut ones that I

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Speaker 1: want to invite, but it's Connecticut. It's a national show show.

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Speaker 1: You don't know what about Jennifer Laumer's who's actually that?

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Speaker 1: A center a note the other day? I haven't heard back.

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Speaker 1: Just why don't you ask Billy Bush if he wants

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Speaker 1: I am surprised. I haven't heard back from Lynn Manuel

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Speaker 1: Miranda though yet. On the the guy side, I thought

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Speaker 1: that would be up his alley. Oh okay, why not?

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Speaker 1: And we invited Simon and Garfuncle and he's John cusack

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Speaker 1: Off of yesterday's Comay. Yeah, Paully, he thought Lynn Manuel

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Speaker 1: Miranda was a woman until he gets a man. Uh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: You could easily get tricked. Yeah. Do you know that

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Speaker 1: the play that he was responsible for? Time at Alexander

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Speaker 1: Hamilton thing? Do you know the name of it? Alexander Hamilt?

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Speaker 1: Alexander Hamilton is? He was a former president? I believe

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Speaker 1: finish second in his class. Everybody know why didn't do

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Speaker 1: a lot of stuff on that? Oh you did? There's

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Speaker 1: just shocked that he didn't know who that Alexander Hamilton

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Speaker 1: Fiddler on the Roof, stat of the Day, Rochier Fiddler

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Speaker 1: to the Dan Patrick Show. More phone calls coming up.

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Speaker 1: Poll question for the final hour the program is what Yeah,

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Speaker 1: multiple teams in our Hall of Fame? Okay? And then

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Speaker 1: what what? It was? The final talent of the other

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Speaker 1: poll question for the first two hours about Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers. That was mean. Spirit had been good. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was fun. Uh what who wants their current quarterback less?

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Speaker 1: Right now? The Packers are leading with sixty eight percent

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Speaker 1: our buddy just popped in the studio. Oh, we'll see

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Speaker 1: if Ryan wants to join us. Oh please, yeah, maybe

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Speaker 1: he can sit in your chair there. Former quarterback done

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Speaker 1: some great stuff. I saw him on NFL Uh, the

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Speaker 1: NFL Network. He did some stead there he is? How

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Speaker 1: about that for in our tournament? How I do it?

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Speaker 1: I just had to drop my car off at the

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Speaker 1: Keya of Milford, so I thought a coup over and

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Speaker 1: sitting for the two hours and watch your show. And

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Speaker 1: then he asked me to come work. Okay, yeah, all right,

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Speaker 1: Well great to see you. Uh the NFL Network. I've

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Speaker 1: seen you do in the morning thing. Yeah, it's been

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun. You know, give me an opportunity

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Speaker 1: Peter Shregor was at the at the Combines. So that

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Speaker 1: was that was a lot of fun. You brought up

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson and Aaron Rodgers, but you brought up something

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Speaker 1: enlighten our audience on what you think could be maybe

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Speaker 1: at the crux of Russ struggling in Denver, Well, I

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Speaker 1: didn't mean for any to be an excuse or anything.

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Speaker 1: And Trevor worked really in the cognitive thinking behavior aspect

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Speaker 1: and Russell bought into it hook line and sinker. It's

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Speaker 1: a neutral thinking. It is about not allowing a semblance

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Speaker 1: of negativity into your thinking at all. It's not necessarily

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Speaker 1: positive thinking. It's just staying as neutral as possible. And

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Speaker 1: could be isolating, but Trevor, who helped me once I

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Speaker 1: and he's really a big reason why I'm the person

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Speaker 1: passed away, unfortunately, right at the end of Russell's tenure

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Speaker 1: And I had some friends of his reach out here

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Speaker 1: after they saw me talk about it and said, this

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Speaker 1: the things he's done, but I wanted some people to

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Speaker 1: have some context around And it was also a way

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Speaker 1: to honor my friend who's who's gone, who did tremendous

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Speaker 1: things for so many people, for Russell in particular and

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Speaker 1: us by surprise here in studio. The Lamar Jackson situation.

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Speaker 1: How does this work out for both? I mean, I

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Speaker 1: teams that we are talking about need quarterback. Do you

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Speaker 1: Nobody's not an agent's not a players, not a front office, anybody.

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Speaker 1: Because everybody's trying to leverage everybody. Everybody's trying to get

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Speaker 1: maybe they were posturing, because I don't. I can't fathom

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Speaker 1: a bunch of teams going after Lamar Jackson right now

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Speaker 1: because you can get him by paying him what he

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Speaker 1: the Falcons. Yeah, but are you paying him two hundred

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Speaker 1: and thirty million dollars guarantee you are? Yes, Yes, this

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Speaker 1: second They can use the Deshaun Watson as an outlier

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Speaker 1: because of the significant difference of what was going on

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Speaker 1: last year. They don't want to pay a second one

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Speaker 1: because then owners throughout the league now know every time

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Speaker 1: fully guaranteed money. But are I know they're trying to

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Speaker 1: and Russell Wilson's contract, like, that's that's where we can

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Speaker 1: be and we want you to be here, and we

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Speaker 1: will guarantee, you know, you'll get the same numbers that

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Speaker 1: good enough for you? Or do you just say nope?

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Speaker 1: I should be paid every bit what Deshaun Watson's getting paid.

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Speaker 1: Jackie might name is you're you're Jackie like it's like

424
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Speaker 1: that Chris Farley character on Saturday Night Live. You're Paul McCartney.

425
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:09,679
Speaker 1: So yeah, she's like yes. And I don't know if

426
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 1: people understand the imprint that Jackie McMullin has left on

427
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 1: the NBA, because, like I remember, we played pickup basketball

428
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 1: in Chicago during the NBA Finals. She was on my team.

429
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,440
Speaker 1: She was just you know, part of the media. She

430
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 1: was not somebody different, but she was. But she just yes, yeah, unbelievable.

431
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 1: You know, like playing college softball, like we know we

432
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,160
Speaker 1: played I played Stanford and it was like we made

433
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,160
Speaker 1: it to the College World Series my senior year and

434
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 1: that was the year where they put the semifinal. They

435
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 1: put the whole World Series on ESPN. That was the

436
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 1: first year they did that. Before that, you had to

437
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 1: make it all the way to the semifinals or the finals,

438
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 1: and so like, I mean, I think that might have

439
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,360
Speaker 1: been my first TV appearance, right, it's just being on

440
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,200
Speaker 1: ESPN in the in the College World Series, but out

441
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 1: it was like turn on and there's a softball game

442
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 1: all the time. There's people, you know, all summer long

443
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,119
Speaker 1: and all spring long, we're watching it. How would you

444
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 1: sum up the atmosphere last night with Paul Gasoul's retire. Yeah,

445
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,199
Speaker 1: it was awesome. Um, you know, first of all, like

446
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 1: there was ah, there's people who came back, right, so

447
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,160
Speaker 1: there was you know, it was it was great see

448
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 1: Phil Jackson up on the up on the video board.

449
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 1: He did a video message for him. He was he

450
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,680
Speaker 1: stayed mostly in a suite, but we haven't seen Phil

451
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 1: in a lot of years here, so that was that

452
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 1: was cool seeing him. I saw his whole um. The

453
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 1: entire Spanish media was there, right, Um, they were. I

454
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:37,680
Speaker 1: think I got interviewed by seven outlets from Barcelona because

455
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,920
Speaker 1: he really is a national hero there. But that was

456
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 1: interesting jan because he you know, he only played seven

457
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,120
Speaker 1: years for the Lakers, right, and they won two titles

458
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 1: in those seven years, but he was universally beloved and

459
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 1: it's it's it's easy to forget. Like when the last

460
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 1: year or so of his time there, it's kind of awkward,

461
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 1: right they tried to trade him for the in the

462
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 1: Chris Paul trade, and then there was other trade, subsequent

463
00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,360
Speaker 1: trade discussions. It was like kind of a messy ending there. Um.

464
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 1: And so but he's he's sort of right back into

465
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,880
Speaker 1: the family now and I thought it was appropriate. His

466
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 1: his jersey's right next to Kobe and right below James Worthies. Um,

467
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,439
Speaker 1: and it's like that's the kind of player of Pale was,

468
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 1: like he was, Um, he was such a gentleman, such

469
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 1: a great complimentary player to Kobe, Like he could not

470
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 1: have designed a better complimentary player for Kobe Bryant than

471
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 1: tau Gasol. And like the one thing always remember he

472
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: when they traded for him, Like the Lakers never did

473
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 1: mid season trades. Never because Bill ran the triangle, and

474
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 1: you know, the triangle might as well have been hieroglyphics

475
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 1: to most people, right, Pale literally had like one meeting

476
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 1: he was oh yeah, I got this, Okay, oh wow,

477
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 1: because he's so smart and and I think that basketball

478
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 1: like you, and and with him and Kobe in terms

479
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 1: of their basketball, like you running the triangle, it was

480
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 1: just a seamless fit. And um, it was great. It

481
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 1: was a great scene there he had his two little kids,

482
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,679
Speaker 1: he had like the baby there and then randomly at

483
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 1: the end, this is like such a random note, but

484
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,199
Speaker 1: it was it was like something that sticks out to me.

485
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler came over, okay, and I and I remember

486
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 1: I was like doing the math. I'm like, wait, the

487
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: Heat played in Miami last night and they have a

488
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: game against Cleveland tomorrow night in Miami. So did Jimmy

489
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: just fly? Jimmy played with Powe in Chicago, obviously, did

490
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 1: Jimmy just fly on the off day to like give

491
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: Pow a hug? That's pretty amazing. Would you rather have

492
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: your jersey retired in the rafters with the Lakers, huh?

493
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 1: Or just be a Hall of Famer elsewhere? I mean,

494
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 1: you can't be in the rafters with the Lakers without

495
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 1: being a Hall of Famer. So there's like it's kind

496
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:35,719
Speaker 1: of a debate here in LA. Right. There's a lot

497
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Speaker 1: of Lakers who could have their jersey retired, but they're

498
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 1: not Hall of Famers. So I go Michael Cooper for example,

499
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 1: Derek Fisher. Those guys have a lot of rings, but

500
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 1: they're not up in the rafters because they're not in

501
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. Okay. So that's why it's like

502
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: a like, you know, they got a lot of jerseys

503
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: up there, so they gotta they have a certain standard,

504
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: and it's a you know, they're doing it quick now too.

505
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 1: They don't wait to retire jerseys until you go into

506
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 1: the hall, but it was it was a great scene.

507
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 1: And only thing about how like you know, do you

508
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: remember when at the end of his time there, when

509
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,360
Speaker 1: Mike D'Antoni got there and there was this big fight

510
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: over playing Pale and Dwight Howard together because playing the

511
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: two bigs, and Mike D'Antoni was like, no, it's just

512
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: it's just simple math. You can't have two bigs on

513
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: the floor at one time, and you know, it's not

514
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: how it works right, and Pal like really was very

515
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,719
Speaker 1: offensive like that. At one point they brought Pow off

516
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: the bench. Remember that. By the end of his time though,

517
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 1: Pale is starting to shoot three pointers. And then when

518
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 1: he goes to Chicago and too, I think he finished

519
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: up in UH, uh Milwaukee and UH and Portland, he

520
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 1: was shooting threes, shooting threes. So you can see that

521
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: evolution of the game. Like he just had to change

522
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: because the game changed so much, like now you have

523
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 1: to be a stretch four or five. If I changed rosters,

524
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: if I put the Lakers roster in the Clippers uniforms, okay,

525
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 1: and I put the Clippers in the Lakers uniform, how

526
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: much coverage the Clippers get Oh, that's a great question. Yeah,

527
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: that it'd be every day. I mean even though I

528
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: don't like, like Kawai Leonard probably wouldn't say anything, but

529
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 1: like people would cover him every day. And that's, um,

530
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 1: you know, Paul George is a good, good media guy,

531
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 1: you know. But um, it's really just it's the uniform,

532
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: it's the stage, it's the it's the bright lights. So

533
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,360
Speaker 1: even if Lebron was with the Clippers, they the Lakers

534
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: are still going to be the star. Yeah, the Lakers.

535
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: It's it's a it's a Laker in Dodgertown. I mean,

536
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:29,719
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I do radio in La Dan

537
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: and we always we know the demos of who listens

538
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,239
Speaker 1: and what they want and when they turn it on,

539
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,959
Speaker 1: when they turn it off. And it's literally like if

540
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 1: you want to rank the top five topics right of

541
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: like what gets the people to listen, it's Lakers, Lakers,

542
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 1: maybe a little Dodgers Lakers, Lakers. It's literally it's like

543
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: that level of interest. Do you remember the first time

544
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: you sat down with Kobe or interviewed Kobe. I don't

545
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 1: know if I remember the first time. I remember some

546
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: of the best times right where he um, you know,

547
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 1: Kobe's like a year older than me. So I was

548
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: in high school when he came into the league, and

549
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, I remember when he took Brandy to the prom.

550
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,199
Speaker 1: That was a big deal. And so when I got

551
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 1: to cover him, I just I just graduated college, maybe

552
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: a year or two earlier, and I think they sent

553
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 1: me out there to run quotes. Howard Beck was our

554
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:17,959
Speaker 1: beat writer at the time, and I was giving him

555
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: a morning off or whatever, and I was like really

556
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 1: starstruck because this was like the shot Kobe Lakers era,

557
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: and I'm like a twenty four year old kid just

558
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 1: all the microphone right and and after a little while,

559
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: like Ko took note of who was out there. And

560
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: I remember one time on a road trip, I was

561
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 1: filling in and I think he realized that this was

562
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: like the first time I had been on a road

563
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: trip and because obviously I wasn't the regular beat guy,

564
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: and he was about to leave the locker room we

565
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: were in Memphis, and he tapped me on the shoulder

566
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: and he goes, hey, I was about to leave, do

567
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: you need me for anything? And I was, oh, my god,

568
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: well really like that level of understanding that Okay, one

569
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: I'm young. I'm not here every day, but I'm clearly

570
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: of filling in for the beat writer that night, and

571
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,479
Speaker 1: he was gonna leave, and I think he kind of knew, like,

572
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: I'm Kobe, you probably need to talk to me, and

573
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: you're gonna look bad if you don't have votes for me, right,

574
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: Like it was just that level of recognition where I

575
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: didn't even think I was relevant at that point. I

576
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: didn't think he knew. I mean, name MVP vote goes

577
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: to who oh this year, you know, I think it's

578
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: I think this year it's Yoki. But I want to

579
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: see how how this year finishes, right, because, um, yokis

580
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: to me, like you can you you have to separate

581
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: the last two years, even though I know it's going

582
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: to factor in people's mind of like whether you vote

583
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: for him or not. But like you know, earlier in

584
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: the year, I thought it was Jason Tatum because the

585
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: Celtics got that's such a great start and he's having

586
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: a like a career year. Plus I think he's a

587
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 1: better two way player. Um, the Celtics kind of faded

588
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: a little bit here, but why are we ignoring Jannis

589
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: Like they're the best team in the East. Right now,

590
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: and Yannis is having a great year, and then and then, oh,

591
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: just just when you think it's it's one of those

592
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: two guys, then Joel emb comes out and has an

593
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: incredible game, and they beat Yannis in the Bucks the

594
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: other day with him hitting a key shot and getting

595
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: a defensive play. So I think Yokich feels like the

596
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: solid front runner right now. But if that East finishes

597
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: in a in an interesting way, like say the Bucks

598
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: stay on this run and they just you know, build

599
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: a four game lead, it's gonna be hard to not

600
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: vote for Yannis um Or let's say Philly gets up there.

601
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: Philly's been playing really well and Embat has been playing

602
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: out of his mind. So I think I think it's

603
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: one of those three at this point. For a while

604
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: I thought we were at five. Then we're down to

605
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: four candidates. I think Tatum's kind of fallen out right now,

606
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: but we'll see how Maybe they hit a finishing kick.

607
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: So it's it's one of those three, and it's gonna

608
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: be interesting as we go to the end here to

609
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: see the You know, Yokis has such a solid case now,

610
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: especially with Denver in first place, I thought he has

611
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 1: a better case this year than he has in the

612
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: last two years. But the best team in the West

613
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: is who Who? Okay, let's let's let's let's reframe that question. Okay,

614
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: I know it's your but I'll reframe it. Okay, Okay.

615
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: If you had to say, there's you get one team

616
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: and that's where you're putting all your money on, right

617
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: versus the best team? Right? Who do you think is

618
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: the most likely team to come out of the West

619
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: at this moment in time March eighth, I think I

620
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: think I'm rolling with Phoenix, right. I think the team

621
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: I have the most faith in is probably Phoenix right now,

622
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: just because of their ceiling, how much belief I have

623
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: in Devin Booker and Kevin Durant. And I think my

624
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: second choices would probably be the Warriors, which is crazy

625
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: because I know they just lost in Oklama City last night,

626
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: but I know it's the heart of a champion, all

627
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: that stuff. I just when I see them and they're good,

628
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, I know it's in there and I and

629
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm never going to write them off

630
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: until they finally lose. We we're waiting for Joker and

631
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: Denver to do something in the postseason. Yeah, you know,

632
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: we're waiting for Jannis to do something. He won an MVP,

633
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: and if you give him the MVP this year, that's

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Speaker 1: Is that right time? The number one song on this

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Speaker 1: not good. Man. The union has been on strike. He's

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Speaker 1: How tough? And let's not even start talking about Gina. Okay,

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Speaker 1: don't know. Jacqueline Smith is seventy seven years of age.

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Speaker 1: this dange sports history lance called for phone calls. Um

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Speaker 1: The highest hands measurement in the past decade in combine

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Speaker 1: for Dwan Jones, the good offensive tackle, very good offen.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with Todd ten point two seven, No,

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Speaker 1: five would be eleven and a half. Okay, just checking

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Speaker 1: eleven and a half, Marv, I'm gonna go eleven eight,

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Speaker 1: eleven eight. That would eight tenths of an inch. Okay,

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Speaker 1: eleven and eight tenths of min I'm gonna go eleven

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Speaker 1: big hands. Yeah. I don't know if it matters for

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