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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to a program that brings you

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Speaker 1: inside the building that would be NRG Stadium, home of

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Speaker 1: the Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo as well as your

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Speaker 1: Houston Texans. And I say that because Cookoff in progress.

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Speaker 1: Mark Vandermaer and John Harris with you Chilly night for

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Speaker 1: the Cookoff. Johnny had kicked off last night, the kickoff

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Speaker 1: of the Cookoff another night tonight. People are enjoying themselves

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Speaker 1: and that's a good thing to see in the city

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Speaker 1: of Houston. The Rodeo is back, and Mark, I know

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna ring up a bad moment, but the fact

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Speaker 1: that the Rodeo is back is such a great moment

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Speaker 1: because I remember being in this seat right here when

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Speaker 1: it was announced that the Rodeo was done, that COVID

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Speaker 1: was shutting down the two years ago, and it was

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Speaker 1: sitting in here, and then all of a sudden, it's

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Speaker 1: like it was in here and we were getting ready

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Speaker 1: to do show. And then walked out into the workroom,

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Speaker 1: which is where the gatekeepers work for the rodeo, and

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Speaker 1: walked out there and there was nobody in there and

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Speaker 1: everything was cleared out, and was like, WHOA, that's that's

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Speaker 1: just your body clock tells you. Gatekeepers take over from

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Speaker 1: like February through March. In that work room, there's usually

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Speaker 1: nobody there, but that period of seeing them all there,

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Speaker 1: it's sort of comforting. Like, Okay, Rodeo's in town. That's

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Speaker 1: such a big event here in Houston. But man, two

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Speaker 1: years ago seeing that thing and seeing that room completely

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Speaker 1: vacant was just weird. That I'm going to be the

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Speaker 1: gate opener or whatever they call it for the Calf Scramble. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you told me this, Okay, Yeah, And I'm envious, all right,

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Speaker 1: I'm envious. Well, I got a call today from my

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Speaker 1: buddy Don Sanders's. He's like, hey, I want you to

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Speaker 1: come Tuesday. I'm throw out the first pitch at Sam

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Speaker 1: Houston University of Texas baseball game. And I'm like, man,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be an Indian. It's like you guys are

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Speaker 1: getting all these like cool moments, like when I get

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Speaker 1: throw at first gate and I'll be an Indian. That'll

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Speaker 1: be That'll be good enough for me. I'm fine with

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Speaker 1: going to the Combine. I'm good by the way you

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Speaker 1: lied to me about the weather there. It's not as

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Speaker 1: bad as what it was really bad. The other day.

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Speaker 1: I didn't lie to you. Okay, it changed, all right,

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Speaker 1: it changed, it changed, are changed. I was already looking

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Speaker 1: into jackets because I'm like, man, do I have enough

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Speaker 1: firepower to go up there? Do you have everything? You have?

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Speaker 1: Five on the sideline building. I know, but you've got

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Speaker 1: to have different different types. I think I'm good. I

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Speaker 1: think I'm good, But I'm telling you, when I checked

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Speaker 1: it a week ago, there were a couple of days linked.

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Speaker 1: The day we arrived, it was gonna be a high

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Speaker 1: of twenty three and a low at twelve. It's not

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Speaker 1: like it's gonna be balming. Don't don't try. And it's

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Speaker 1: in the forties, low forties or something that's like it

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Speaker 1: is here. Yeah, it's just the same thing. Don't give

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Speaker 1: me that kind of stuff. But bringing it with us,

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Speaker 1: but Leo, let's yeah, let's this is crazy, Okay. So

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Speaker 1: of course I have Indiapolis tempature right next to my

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Speaker 1: parents temperature, and every time I flip through, I have ours,

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Speaker 1: and then Galveston and then my parents. So it's like fifties,

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Speaker 1: sixties nine and then Indianapolis or your parents are still

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Speaker 1: in Wisconsins, They're still in Wisconsin Yeah, it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: It'll be fine. It's in the forties. There's one night

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Speaker 1: it gets to that's Saturday. Yeah, it's it's higes of

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Speaker 1: fifties were fine. I was gonna say, you can throw

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Speaker 1: out the first pitch of Victory Field where the I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I love that little stadium. Yeah, I'd love

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Speaker 1: to see a game. It'd be kind of nice if

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Speaker 1: they move things up. Then again, baseball has to get

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Speaker 1: attack together and be able to do that. So, oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh, take care of those minor leaguers baseball. Oh

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Speaker 1: we can tie this into something that Landry and Lopez

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Speaker 1: were discussing today, which is Lopez wants to get rid

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Speaker 1: of the shift, and okay, yeah, well I wanted to

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Speaker 1: get your take because I was thinking, look, you have

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Speaker 1: to have certain rules, and you could make it a

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Speaker 1: keep the outfielders at least within a zone, right, similar

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Speaker 1: to football, where if you had no rules in football

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Speaker 1: to make sure that it's not mayhem. Now you could

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Speaker 1: like six versus four on once. I think the motion

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Speaker 1: you have like six on one side. Yes, absolutely. It

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Speaker 1: used to be you could put the wholemish book over

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Speaker 1: good to get word there. Now it's natural for the

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Speaker 1: NFL you can throw a penalty. There's that. I don't

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Speaker 1: know exactly what you do in baseball. Maybe you make

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Speaker 1: if the defense is caught in that particular situation, Maybe

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Speaker 1: it becomes an automatic ball on that particular pitch if

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Speaker 1: that happens. But I there's a part of me that

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Speaker 1: agrees with John and the fact that you know, it's

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Speaker 1: ridiculous when you see it. It weird, But then again,

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Speaker 1: you're a major league hitter. Take a fastball the other

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Speaker 1: way and make them pay for it. Be a major

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Speaker 1: league hitter. The stats say that it works better to

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Speaker 1: operate with the shift, that they're not going to beat

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Speaker 1: the shift. I think you're right, and that's why that's

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Speaker 1: why bad hitters. I think it was Joey Joey Gallo

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Speaker 1: look it up and it's like, this guy's a tool

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Speaker 1: seven hitter. Yeah, you're a tool seven hitter because you

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Speaker 1: and teams know it. So you go with it. It's

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Speaker 1: wide open over there. Look for a pitch that gets

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Speaker 1: be a two fifty hitter. Stop the nots. I do

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Speaker 1: agree with John. I think I think that shift is

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Speaker 1: Are you with me on this. You can't say keep

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Speaker 1: the shift and also advocate for universal DH. You can't.

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Speaker 1: You can't keep the shift and also advocate for universal DH.

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Speaker 1: You have to be able to say, look, all right,

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Speaker 1: so what's the problem with the picture hitting. If you're

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Speaker 1: Although I could argue that in another way as well,

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Speaker 1: So there's there's that requirement as well. So there are

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Speaker 1: figure out if the shift here's here's the odd. I

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Speaker 1: making sure and if the shift were on and it's

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Speaker 1: he would just buzz down to the to the umpire

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Speaker 1: They can't tell on field, I mean they might be

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Speaker 1: I'm all right with shading, but not shifting, you know

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Speaker 1: or whatever. Just like in football, you can have unbalanced

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Speaker 1: your alignment, but full on three outfielders one way or

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Speaker 1: four infielders on the other side of second base change

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Speaker 1: the game a little bit. Analytics guys are not gonna

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Speaker 1: like that. No they're not. I guarantee you. Billy Bean

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Speaker 1: and his baseball nerds are not gonna like that. Bill

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Speaker 1: James gonna hate it. Oh, Bill James would not like it.

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Speaker 1: We're not deep enough into the offseason yet to discuss

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Speaker 1: NFL rule change proposals here, but when we are deep enough.

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Speaker 1: Nick Casserio, I can't wait to run a few things

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Speaker 1: jumped all over me for drafting Gronk who's not retired.

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Speaker 1: also kind of blew my mind with stall back looks good.

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Speaker 1: draft and Brady was ineligible, but we decided because he

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Speaker 1: never going to be drafted. Oh, I think Elway is

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Speaker 1: a solid pick by you. Elway in this era. It's

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Speaker 1: funny when we talk about would this player fit in

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Speaker 1: the current era? Man, And they're all these debates going on.

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Speaker 1: You just had the NBA All Star Game as we're

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Speaker 1: talking cross sports here. Hey, it's Friday, we're hanging out,

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Speaker 1: we're leading our hair down, so to speak. Whatever here

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Speaker 1: we have, but Steph Curry, right, greatest shooter of all time? Yes?

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Speaker 1: And then the debate was going around in our little

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Speaker 1: text thread about Curry versus Larry Bird in a three

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Speaker 1: come on, man, and in an All Star game where

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Speaker 1: there's no defense. That is how you entertain people. That

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Speaker 1: right there, that was phenomenal. If you could I used

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Speaker 1: I would I would have people come up with My

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Speaker 1: ultimate Leaven topic that day was create your one on

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Speaker 1: one battle and it could be any It could be anything.

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Speaker 1: It could be you know, two guys fighting in a ring.

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Speaker 1: You know, it could be like um Lawrence Taylor and

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Speaker 1: JJ Watt fighting in a ring, or any Steph Curry v.

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Speaker 1: Larry Bird. Like if you could put it together Steph

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Speaker 1: Murry and Steph Curry and Larry Bird in their primes

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Speaker 1: in a three point contest, Manoamano would be fantastic. Bird.

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Speaker 1: I think the only way Bird wins. I mean, he's awesome, right.

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Speaker 1: The intimidation factor of Larry Larry, that's yes, it was

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Speaker 1: a big part of it, and he was excellent. Curry

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Speaker 1: is the best shooter I've ever seen. All Right, Bird

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Speaker 1: is one of the best players I've ever seen who

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Speaker 1: put Bird in this era, and that's how you win,

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Speaker 1: or at least participate in these arguments. You take Magic

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Speaker 1: Johnson put him in this era. Obviously he's gonna do fine,

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Speaker 1: especially with today's training techniques and knowledge we have about

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Speaker 1: things about that throat, but that's what I felt like, Huh.

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Speaker 1: It changed. He checked the play, so he had confidence

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Speaker 1: enough to check the play. Then he read the defense

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Speaker 1: and he made the right decision based on that fast

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Speaker 1: forward to that throat. To Niko. We talked about this.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I felt like, screwge. It was a day

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Speaker 1: after Christmas and I'm like, ah, we probably should have

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Speaker 1: scored that touchdown, But looking back on it, I'm glad

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Speaker 1: that they did. And this was one of the things

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Speaker 1: that I heard. Davis talked about this after the game,

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Speaker 1: that run play with Tim Kelly, former offens coordinator, had

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Speaker 1: given it. He gave a pass tag on it, and

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Speaker 1: Gary used to Gary Kubiak used to do this with

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Speaker 1: Matt shop I remember this clear as day. It was

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Speaker 1: gonna It would be an outside zone player looked like

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Speaker 1: an outside zone. They're all blocking for zone, and Matt

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Speaker 1: would step up and Drey wouldn't even run a slant.

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Speaker 1: He would just run flat down the line and Matt

442
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Speaker 1: would just pop it to him right. He could just angle,

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Speaker 1: catch the ball in and get up the field and

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Speaker 1: you're linement aren't downfield because you're getting rid of the

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Speaker 1: ball so fast. Yeah, so that's a that's an automatic

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Speaker 1: for the quarterback. So Tim Kelly put his pass tag

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Speaker 1: on there, and even with the score in a situation

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Speaker 1: the way it was, probably probably should run the ball.

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Speaker 1: Davis is like, look, he gave me the pass tag

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Speaker 1: on this play. They're giving it to me. I'm sticking

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Speaker 1: this thing in there. And he's got the confidence at

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Speaker 1: that point to stick that sucker on Nico and put

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Speaker 1: it on there where nobody else is touching it other

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Speaker 1: than Nico, and he puts it right on him such

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Speaker 1: that Nico can catch it, and then all the momentum

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Speaker 1: is going forward to get him in the end zone.

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Speaker 1: And of course that's Nico's first touchdown of the year.

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Speaker 1: But those two throws to me, I'm of course, we've

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Speaker 1: said this a million times. We're not putting him, We're

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Speaker 1: not putting him a cannon. But it showed that there

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Speaker 1: was a ton of proc grass and I know if

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Speaker 1: people look holistically the whole year, his numbers aren't going

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Speaker 1: to look fantastic. In fact, I saw a tweet the

464
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Speaker 1: other day somebody you think of CBS Sports compared his

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Speaker 1: numbers to TA. Numbers aren't like identical, like whoa. However,

466
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Speaker 1: where Davis struggled was in that beginning. He faced the Bills,

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Speaker 1: he faced the Rams, and mean, he faced really good defenses.

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Speaker 1: Not that he did at the end of the year,

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Speaker 1: but you know, the second half against the Titans, one

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Speaker 1: of the top five defenses in the league, he lit

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Speaker 1: them up like a Christmas tree in the second half.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he lit them up like a rookie quarterback cooks,

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Speaker 1: and you're going to Buffalo in a rain store against

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Speaker 1: a hungry team, and the Texans aren't exactly the greatest

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Speaker 1: show on turf going in on the ball falls out

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Speaker 1: of your hand on the first throw, I think. And

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Speaker 1: I was listening to uh Daniel Jeremia and Bucky Brooks.

478
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Speaker 1: They did a they did their podcast on the quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: Rookie Quarterbacks Class of twenty twenty one Quarterbacks report Cards.

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Speaker 1: All right, I want to hear a share that with

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Speaker 1: me next. Okay, plus some other things including but not

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Speaker 1: limited to, Look, we have a bowl game here and

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Speaker 1: it draws well, but attendance in college football there's a problem.

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Speaker 1: There's a report and some other stuff around the NFL

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Speaker 1: as well. Concerning your Houston Texans. It's Texans All Access,

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Speaker 1: keeping your company on a Go Texan Friday, It's Go

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Speaker 1: Texan Day. We also have Go Texans Day which is

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Speaker 1: before the Texans season, but this is Go Texan Day

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Speaker 1: for the Houston Livestock Show and rodeo and a lot

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Speaker 1: of people dressed up. You were wondering, why is that

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Speaker 1: person dressed up in Texan gear? That's why, folks. If

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Speaker 1: you didn't know by now, Mark Vanderman and John Harris

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Speaker 1: with you Texans all access, All right, you're gonna share

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Speaker 1: this with me, Let's pay it off. Bucky Brooks and

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah were giving their grades for the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: one quarterback class the rookies of last season. What do

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Speaker 1: you got? Three of them ended up with ceas or worse.

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Speaker 1: Take a guess which three fields correct? Jones, It's gonna

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Speaker 1: be Oh, Caesar worse, Caesar, Caesar worse, Trevor Lawrence, Yes,

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Speaker 1: and Zach Yeah, okay, one, two, and eleven. As far

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Speaker 1: as selections go, Trey Lance got incomplete because he didn't

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Speaker 1: play but a few games. Now. He played well against

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Speaker 1: the Texans, pretty well, especially in the second half. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he got it going. I mean that was to me

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Speaker 1: if I'm ron the show hugely. I'm pointing to that

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Speaker 1: game because the Texans had opportunities in that game. What

507
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Speaker 1: did the Texans lead go to the fourth quarter? No,

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Speaker 1: we got robbed on that. Well, Davis threw a pick.

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Speaker 1: He threw a bad pick. We got robbed on the

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Speaker 1: fact that whatever number one was, Jimmy Ward was Jimmy

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Speaker 1: Warred tequoas guitar. I can't remember which one. Somebody intercepted

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Speaker 1: the ball and then Conny stripped it from him and

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Speaker 1: the Texans got on. They said, it's forward. Progress have

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Speaker 1: been stopped. Yeah, come on, man, anyway, that robbery. That

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Speaker 1: was a bad throw by Davis. I'll give him that.

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Speaker 1: But Lance got an incomplete, mac Jones got a minus. Oh,

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Speaker 1: Davis Mills gotta be minus. Davis was second in their group.

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Speaker 1: But they said something as they discussed it and they

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Speaker 1: talked about him. They didn't talk about Davis. He was

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Speaker 1: the last one they talked about because obviously he was

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Speaker 1: the third round in the group. So and it was

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Speaker 1: a Texans so four and thirteen. But they said the

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Speaker 1: progress he made, and this is something that we said,

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Speaker 1: but the fact that two well respected national hosts understood

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Speaker 1: this fact. They talked about him going in and being

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Speaker 1: thrown into the lineup when he was not ready, but

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Speaker 1: then going back out of the lineup, but having the

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Speaker 1: opportunity to kind of observe see how Tyrod did it,

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Speaker 1: see what good Tyrod did, see what bad Tyrod did,

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Speaker 1: and then getting back into the lineup to start. He

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Speaker 1: kind of put all that into play and you saw

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Speaker 1: a bunch of improvement over the last part of the

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Speaker 1: year from when he started the first part of the year,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's it. That's it. You just you

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Speaker 1: want a guy at quarterback to improve each and every

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Speaker 1: time he steps on the field. And I'll say this

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Speaker 1: the last when he was in the game, even in

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Speaker 1: the game against the Niners and it was not going great,

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Speaker 1: I felt two thousand percent different than I did when

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Speaker 1: he was starting the first time in that I felt

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Speaker 1: like when they went on the field, I'm like, oh, man,

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Speaker 1: I don't know this is gonna be rough early on,

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Speaker 1: early on, But when he got back in the lineup,

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Speaker 1: I felt like, I'm excited to see where this thing goes.

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Speaker 1: Even getting even down to the Titans, I felt like, man,

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Speaker 1: there's still something I feel better about him. I want

547
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Speaker 1: to see what happens. And then he hits the flee

548
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Speaker 1: flicker for the touchdown, He makes a couple of the

549
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Speaker 1: key throws, he gets him within three. Danny's having a

550
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Speaker 1: great game. He's throwing ropes to Danny. I mean it,

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Speaker 1: you saw it, but I felt and I think the

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Speaker 1: team felt different too. So a guy shows progress, and

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Speaker 1: I think even Ron could admit, any critic could admit,

554
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: you want a third round quarterback to pay off, right,

555
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Speaker 1: you want that to happen. Whatever you're doing that helps

556
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 1: you on so many different levels. You want a third

557
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Speaker 1: round quarterback because I mean, I mean you think back

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Speaker 1: to Seattle. What Seattle was able to do with Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 1: Sure before Russell obviously got paid after you know, he

560
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Speaker 1: proved it, but they were able to do so much

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Speaker 1: adding Michael Bennett back to the mix, all these great

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Speaker 1: players they were able to add in because they you know,

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's on a third round rookie contract the first

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Speaker 1: three years, So you want that to be the case.

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Speaker 1: Now can it be? We'll find out. But I think

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Speaker 1: at least what he showed over those last few games

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Speaker 1: is there's progress. Lets see where this goes. Not this

568
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: doesn't look good at all, Like you would if the

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Speaker 1: season would have ended after the the um What game

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Speaker 1: was that? The Rams game? Right? I know he closed

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Speaker 1: with the fourth quarter, Like I get that, you wouldn't

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Speaker 1: feel you listen at all. I might not have felt

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Speaker 1: as good had the season ended at halftime of the

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Speaker 1: Tennessee game, the last game of the regular season, because

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Speaker 1: at halftime, I thought, man, he's gonna have to go

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Speaker 1: on a run here. He's he's got to get something

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Speaker 1: positive going into the offseason with and he certainly did.

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Speaker 1: They did, because if you make one more stop, you

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Speaker 1: get the ball back. Oh maybe they get stop, but

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Speaker 1: maybe they don't. Maybe they kick a game time field goal,

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Speaker 1: maybe they get a go ahead touchdown. And wouldn't we

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Speaker 1: all love to see that? And I'll give you another example.

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Speaker 1: His first ever appearance against the Browns. He throws a

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Speaker 1: touchdown pass to Brandon Cooks in the second half. If

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Speaker 1: they can get the ball back light, I think they're

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Speaker 1: down three or something one at that point. Yeah, four

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Speaker 1: twenty one, get the ball backs. See what you can

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Speaker 1: do again, not saying he's gonna do it, but I'd

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Speaker 1: love to see them get the opportunity. But Cleveland was

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Speaker 1: able to run things out. Yeah well Cleveland. Well remember

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Speaker 1: Cleveland scored a touchdown to make it thirty one twenty one, right,

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Speaker 1: he brought him back and got in a field goal

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Speaker 1: range would have got him within a score, but they

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Speaker 1: miss the field goal. Yi miss the field goal. Joey

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Speaker 1: Sly was I think Joey Sli kicked for three teams,

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Speaker 1: got a lot of jerseys, put them all up on

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Speaker 1: the wall, Joey, good for him, but it is Jim Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So we left the building. It was weird. You left

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Speaker 1: the building after losing to Tennessee with the number three

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Speaker 1: pick in the draft. Nice, but look, having lost in Tennessee,

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Speaker 1: I don't like losing any game. At Least you had

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Speaker 1: the number three pick, and Mills played well in the process,

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Speaker 1: and Nico contributed, and the rookies did their thing again,

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Speaker 1: and you left the building heading into the offseason with

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Speaker 1: a sense of Okay, wasn't the season you wanted, but

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Speaker 1: at least there was some positives to pull And here

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Speaker 1: we are today with Lovey Smith as the head coach.

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Speaker 1: You're headed to the combine and we'll see where it

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Speaker 1: goes from there. I talked to a few of the

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Speaker 1: Titans down on the field after the game. I saw

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Speaker 1: Taylor one, I met him for the first time in Nashville.

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Speaker 1: We talked for a while in the field, and I

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Speaker 1: talked to Ben Jones for a little bit of sat

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Speaker 1: the ante foreman and talked to a few of the guys.

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Speaker 1: Talked to a few of the coaches, and every single

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Speaker 1: one of them that I talked to was like, was

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Speaker 1: it so much. We got lucky, but it was like, boy,

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00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: that got a little dicey. Yeah it did. And why

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Speaker 1: why did it get dicey? Because the guy that stood

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Speaker 1: under center for the Texans in those last thirty minutes

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Speaker 1: was a guy showing some confidence and he got hot

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Speaker 1: and put the Texans right where you wish they could

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Speaker 1: have been in the first half. Division games, yeah, absolutely so.

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Speaker 1: Division games are big and that's why the league does

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Speaker 1: it this way. Magical things happen in division games. Jaguars

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Speaker 1: beating the Colts last game of the regular season, knocking

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Speaker 1: the Colts had a playoff contention. Magical things now not

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Speaker 1: so magical for the Colts. But that was wild and weird,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think it happens if you're not playing

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Speaker 1: a divisional game. Again, nobody in your division is scared

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Speaker 1: of you. The Jags weren't scared of the Colts. They

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Speaker 1: beat him the year before there on opening Day, and look,

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Speaker 1: I know some of the faces changed and everything, but

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Speaker 1: they're not scared. And the Texans aren't scared of the Titans.

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Speaker 1: They had beaten them before up there, so they weren't scared,

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00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: but they challenged them, couldn't get the win. But you

637
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: challenge them and that was a positive for you. How

638
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: different is life in the AFC if the Texans win

639
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: that game? Interesting? The Titans are still going in obviously

640
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: they're going into the playoffs. Yes, but they don't feel

641
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: nearly as good. Hey, maybe they do better in the postseason.

642
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'll be so going on the roads.

643
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: But they did in twenty nineteen. I mean, they play

644
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: that first game at home, I believe as THEFC South winner. Yeah,

645
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,959
Speaker 1: as a division winner. But do the Chiefs end up

646
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: with that? And it made me think about this because

647
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: I by them. I've been I've been watching I don't

648
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: know if you've seen this on the ACC Network. Jonathan Hawk,

649
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: who has done a number of great documentaries for thirty

650
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: for thirty Documentaries, he's doing it ten part series on

651
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: the ACC Basketball Tournament. Oh boy, and it's fantastic. And

652
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: there was a time in the ACC where the number

653
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: one team would get a buy and so by day

654
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: three you got these teams playing on you know, three

655
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: games in a row versus a team that hadn't played

656
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: that first day. They're just playing their second game in

657
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: a row. And it was also back in a time

658
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: when only the winner went only the winner, old old

659
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: old days. Oh yeah, that's when Dean Smith. Way, Well,

660
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: Dean didn't Dean Smith win the ACC tournament once and

661
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: decide to go to the n I T instead. There

662
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: was one that might or that happened the way back machine,

663
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: because the old stories are the n I t used

664
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: to be more entertaining than the nc double A tournament

665
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: because they would have everybody there and it was so

666
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: cool to be in New York and they'd play hot

667
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: and cold running games at Battison Square Garden and people

668
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: would just come in during work and catch a game

669
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: and a half and then go and it was awesome.

670
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: And the NCAA tournament at one point only had sixteen

671
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: teams in it. Yep. Can you imagine the number four

672
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: team in the country having just lost in overtime to

673
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: the number one team in the country in a tournament

674
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: final one or three to one hundred doesn't go to

675
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 1: the NCAA tournament. That's the way. It wasn't seventy four Maryland.

676
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: It flipped the next year. But it got me thinking

677
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: about that because that, I mean, it used to be

678
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: the two buys. You had two teams that didn't play

679
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 1: in that first week. But now it's just one and

680
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: I know that that the Titans got beat Obviously the

681
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: Packers got beat both of them. It didn't it didn't matter,

682
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: but I can imagine just having that extra week to

683
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: rest what that would have meant for the Chiefs. The

684
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: Chiefs don't have that week. They've got to play. And

685
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: yeah it's a Steelers, so they didn't play exeedingly well,

686
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: but they still gotta play. You still got to prepare,

687
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,720
Speaker 1: you still gonna play. That's a mental and physical grind.

688
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: But if we beat the Titans, how the things changed.

689
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: Titans probably followed the three or four seed, but Chiefs

690
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: get the buy so they don't have to play the

691
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: first round. So the Chiefs gonna the Chiefs gonna lose

692
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: everything going through Kansas City. And they did loose to

693
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,399
Speaker 1: the Bengals, but they had to play a third game.

694
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: And so maybe fatigue cut up to him, Maybe Hubers

695
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: caught up to him. I don't know, but I got

696
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,280
Speaker 1: me thinking about it because I've been watching the ACC tournament.

697
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: It's ten pond through parts. It's awesome. I still have

698
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: to watch that SEC stuff on the announcers as well.

699
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,720
Speaker 1: I'm way behind my TV viewing. This is a priority

700
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: of my life and we gotta talk to my Keith

701
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: about that when we go to Combine. I got a

702
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: chance to talk to him about He gave me kind

703
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: of the background about how this thing. Do you know

704
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: that he wanted to do. He had talked to the NFL.

705
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: He wanted to do kind of like a series by

706
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: the NFL on all the different NFL voices and all

707
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: the different NFL radio teams. Oh yes, and he thought

708
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: he thought he had got a commitment to him and

709
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: then COVID hit and it kind of changed. And yeah,

710
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: I talked to him for a bit at the Senior Bowl. Well,

711
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: they're gonna focus on a lot of old timers, and

712
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: as they should, you know, as they should, they should

713
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: focus on some of the great boy like Van Miller

714
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills back in the day. Merril Hodge

715
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: has been with the Eagles forever. I've been here for

716
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: Meryl Hodge, Merril Rees, I meant Meryl Reese. I'm sorry,

717
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 1: I got my Merril's mixed up. I know it's a

718
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: couple of them, but yeah, forever, he's doing it for

719
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: a while. I think he's pushing eighty he's getting close,

720
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,919
Speaker 1: all right, coming up, you're gonna give me. It's late

721
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: Friday night of the draft, so it's late day two

722
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: or early Saturday. Give me at least one, maybe two

723
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: running backs that are right there. We're got to get

724
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 1: to that college football story as well. I promised that.

725
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: But look, we're running out a show. It's Texans Radio,

726
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: Mark Vandermyer and John Harris with you Friday night. It's

727
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 1: a free for all Friday. We've been all over the

728
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 1: place today. But I promised this, Johnny. It's late Friday

729
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 1: night of the draft or it's early Saturday, so in

730
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: other words, late third round, early fourth round. And Nick

731
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: Cassaria says, you know, I'm not drafting for need, but

732
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: I feel the need for speed and running back. I

733
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: feel you want need. Well, I'm I just was just

734
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,760
Speaker 1: looking for the rhyme right there. He might want power, Okay,

735
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: speed or just power. I don't know, but he feels

736
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 1: like it's around time to take a running back. There

737
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: attractive ones on the board. Give me one or two

738
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: guys we should be watching. Okay, what do you want

739
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: to running back? You said speed? Yeah, how about speed?

740
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: I give you a shot. White from Arizona State at

741
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. He I saw the run and I

742
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: was like, yo, that's fast. Later on we found out

743
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: he was running at twenty one point two five miles

744
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: an hour in full pads in practice. Run broke right

745
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: in front of him and he just he hit it.

746
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: He smokes. At the Senior Bowl. He also told me

747
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 1: that one of the players that he modeled his game

748
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: after growing up, Arian Foster. Oh wow, but Arion never

749
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: had that speed. This guy's got legit, legit speed. Arian

750
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: had that. It looked like he was jogging gliding and

751
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 1: he's running by people, you know, and it's just so effective.

752
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: So that's speed. Speed, Give me power. You want a hammer? Yeah,

753
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: I got a few guys early mid round kind of

754
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: guy now. I like Robinson. Robinson probably in a bid

755
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: Day two. Give you one from the University of Florida

756
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: that I love is Damian Pierce. Love him. It's about

757
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifteen pounds, just strong as an ox,

758
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: I mean, just built. He's like five ten to fifteen,

759
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: just built like a brick. And the term contact balances him.

760
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: I mean players just bounce bounce off of this guy.

761
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: I love these middle round guys. Ty Goodson. Tyler Goodson

762
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: from an Iowa, great zone runner, not a not a

763
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: big guy in comparison, but like James Cook from Georgia,

764
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 1: can be kind of a dual threat guy. Hassan Haskins,

765
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: that's another one that I really want. I got him

766
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: about nineties shrange and the Harris one hundred. Where is

767
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: he from? He's from Michigan, six one, two hundred and

768
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: fifteen pounds and he's a hammer. But his best running

769
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: against Ohio State. He breaks through the line, breaks a

770
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: couple of tackles, breaks through the line, he's twenty five

771
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 1: yards downfield, and a corner tries to tackle him. He

772
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 1: leaps over him. All right, I remember, of course, Yeah, yeah.

773
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:03,720
Speaker 1: Son Haskins. He six two fifteen and he's a hammer,

774
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: but he's got some juice with him too. So I

775
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:10,240
Speaker 1: like day two and beyond for running backs in this class.

776
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: All Right, we're not gonna have enough time to get

777
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,240
Speaker 1: to this topic thoroughly, but the college football attendance story.

778
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: What broke today about this? I know it's been an

779
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: issue lately, especially with COVID. Obviously everything was an issue,

780
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: but coming out of COVID has been tough of the

781
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 1: college football gate. Yeah. Dennis Dodd, who writes for CBS

782
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 1: is College Football, a longtime college football writer from CBS Sports,

783
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: have been talking about the actual game attendance in particular

784
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: conferences and how it was down. It was down in

785
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: the SEC at certain schools. It was up, it was

786
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: up at Old Miss obviously, Lane Kiffin, it was up

787
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: at Arkansas, Sam Pittman a pretty good year. But overall,

788
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: the gist of it is there's a concern in college

789
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: football about the attendance and people going there because obviously

790
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 1: COVID hit. But what COVID did was it forced not

791
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: all of us, but it forced a lot of people

792
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: to watch from home. Yea, and watch the game from home.

793
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: And it's like, man, my TV is pretty good. Yep.

794
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: I walked to the kitchen for a beer, drink or

795
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 1: food or whatever. I don't have to face the throng.

796
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay and watch. Hey, the smaller schools or

797
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: smaller programs, all right, Mid American Conference schools. Right, Look,

798
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: every game is on ESPN, PIE or whatever, right, so

799
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: you can watch every game on your flat screen in

800
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: the comfort of your home. Beautiful. Yeah, and it does

801
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: affect things. There's no doubt. You know, we're not talking

802
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: of the Alabamas of the world, although even some of

803
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: those programs are affected. But when you drop down, it's

804
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: a major problem. Absolutely. And these these teams have you know,

805
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: fifty thousand seat stadiums, and you watch a game and

806
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 1: you see kind of like a you know, it was

807
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: a high school game going on in there today. No,

808
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: it's bowling Green against Miami and it and on TV.

809
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: That doesn't that doesn't look great, But there are a

810
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 1: lot of people watching those games. Every game is on

811
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: TV somewhere. So yeah, college football has got a little

812
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: bit of an issue from that perspective. And how do

813
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: you get the fans back. That's a battle they've been

814
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 1: fighting for bigger Now. I have a suggestion for the

815
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: big program. Stop playing these schools that you have no business.

816
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 1: Oh you've got to create You're absolutely right, you know,

817
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 1: just play a tough schedule. That's why they have to

818
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: let more people into the playoff or whatever it's going

819
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: to take to enable that to happen. I get it.

820
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: Everybody feels like they need a warm up, you know what.

821
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: Let them scrimmage each other, controlled scrimmages with thud. That's

822
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: what they just allowed. They're allowing that. Yeah, joint practices

823
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 1: in college football. Finally, yes, finally they that just came out.

824
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: I think yesterday there David listening to me. Finally they're

825
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: doing what I'm suggested, those joint practices. I mean, come on, now,

826
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: you can do it with the NFL loving doom at

827
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 1: college Horse. It's only going to help your opening games.

828
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: Now you won't be as bashful about playing a big

829
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 1: time team. Yeah right. I know not everybody shies away

830
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 1: from those matchups because some of them are just huge

831
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: money games and new sites or whatever the case may be.

832
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: But I think it's absolutely time for that to happen

833
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: because they were scrimmaging themselves all the time. You don't

834
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: want to get hurt. You don't really know how good

835
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 1: you are. It's a big problem. Yes, all right, practices

836
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: in college let's do it, all right, So we've got

837
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 1: a weekend of activity. Monday's show is still going to

838
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: originate from here, but Tuesday through Friday next week from

839
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: the NFL scouting Combine in Indianapolis. It's gonna be fun, Johnny, Yeah,

840
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a blast to be back. It's been

841
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: a couple of years. Yeah, it's been a couple of years.

842
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 1: I hope we know our way around, indye, I think

843
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 1: we've known we're around. Indeed, I think I can get

844
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. We've been there so many times, so

845
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: many times, so many days, and look, I did college

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Speaker 1: games there back in the day. It'll be fun. It'll

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Speaker 1: be next week. Have a great weekend everyone, Thank you

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