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Speaker 1: is Gerald Moody. And uh, you may or may not

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Speaker 1: Mr Moody is on the West Coast. Yeah. Uh, how

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Speaker 1: is your trip east to West Coast? Oh? Excellent? Noah, turbulence.

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Speaker 1: So he starts talking about certain things that I shouldn't eat. Um.

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Speaker 1: He goes, let me explain. He goes, this diet it's

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Speaker 1: a form of a fast, and it's a form. It's

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Speaker 1: It's a five day diet. It's an extreme form of

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Speaker 1: that you're saying this, prepare yourself to die? But what

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Speaker 1: And he goes, let me finish. My wife says, let

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Speaker 1: and and it'll start creating new cells. So back, if

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Speaker 1: the record when he was sixteen seventeen eighteen, dropped it

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Speaker 1: when he was nineteen. There ain't no age in this

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Speaker 1: Roxanne Schante, she was like sixteen when she was doing

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Speaker 1: her thing. Yeah, you want to put out an entire

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Speaker 1: CD during your rookie season, during your uneventful rookie season,

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Speaker 1: And I'm a consumer and I'm gonna judge it, and

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be fair. Oh yeah, we're gonna be really fair. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll be fair. Uh. Speaking of the Ball family, your

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Speaker 1: guy Alonzo LaVar Ball, he just said this the other day.

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Speaker 1: I want all three of my boys to play for

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Speaker 1: the Lakers. But if that does not happen, I am

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Speaker 1: telling you what's gonna happen. First, if they meaning the Lakers,

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Speaker 1: if they don't take Jello this year, I bring back

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Speaker 1: Jello over here to Lithuania to play with Melo for

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Speaker 1: two more years. Alonzo will be on his third year,

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Speaker 1: and I want to let every NBA team know that

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Speaker 1: Alonso is not going to resign with the Lakers, but

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Speaker 1: will go with any team that will take care of

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Speaker 1: my three boys. That's my plan. If I'm the Lakers,

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Speaker 1: I I trade this guy while he still has some

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Speaker 1: value left. Damn. So you're basically trying to strong arm

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Speaker 1: the Lakers. If you're gonna take one, you gotta take

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Speaker 1: them all. I'm gonna tell something right now. Unfortunately, Jello

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Speaker 1: Ball is not going to be in the NBA. That

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Speaker 1: that that's my scouting report. Now I've watched him play.

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00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 1: He's not going to be an NBA player. He's like,

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Speaker 1: they have to play with one another for them to

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Speaker 1: be any NBA that's what he's trying to do. Well,

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Speaker 1: you could take that to a AU, take it on

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Speaker 1: the road, have them be a touring family basketball team

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Speaker 1: out throughout Europe. Barn storming Europe. Yeah, they're like the

455
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: fucking Beatles of basketball. He's basically, he threatened. He said,

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Speaker 1: if they don't take all of them, you get none

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Speaker 1: of them. Trade this guy, now, trade him. You could

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Speaker 1: get some value for Alonzo ball. This is only going

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Speaker 1: to get worse, and it's gonna only get reeler. If.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about the youngest one, the one who

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Speaker 1: looks like a teen wolf. But the kid, Jello, the

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Speaker 1: one who was Stephen over there, Oh, he he's not.

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Speaker 1: He don't have an NBA game. Man, If you could

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Speaker 1: accomplish that, man, you're you're great. But man, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how that could be done. I think

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Speaker 1: he's hurting. Man, that's clown ship. It seems kind of

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Speaker 1: clownish right now. He said, we don't have to go

468
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Speaker 1: to any draft. Just sign him in a free agency.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to give Jello fifteen million. Give him

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Speaker 1: a million dollars for three years. Will take it. Because

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Speaker 1: they make so much money off the court, they lose,

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Speaker 1: spare change lose. Yeah, that spare change, okay, he said.

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Speaker 1: He said, the salary of the NBA is spare change. Okay,

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Speaker 1: But he's dead ass. Yeah, he's bugging, he's willing for

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Speaker 1: the night. Um that's the Ball Uh the Ball Family

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Speaker 1: update of this Iron wrappor Stereo podcast. Um what else

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Speaker 1: you got, Mr Moody? Oh man Ship? Oh you was

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Speaker 1: talking about diets and ship and you know, uh, Chloe

479
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Speaker 1: Kardashian had a diet that she had broadcast or whatever,

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Speaker 1: and a registered nurse try to emulate that diet and

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Speaker 1: she what got so weak from the diet that she

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Speaker 1: couldn't even go to work, like like, she tried to

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Speaker 1: copy the diet and and she did it for five

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Speaker 1: days and she fucking passed out basically and couldn't couldn't

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Speaker 1: fucking go to work because the big Chloe kardashi left

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Speaker 1: out the fact that she had a stomach surgery. So

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Speaker 1: so so these these women don't they think they could

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Speaker 1: do that, but they leave out that the fact that

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Speaker 1: she had a stomach cut. So it's false advertising. So

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to say that complete false advertising. Oh,

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Speaker 1: by the way, did you see the did you see

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Speaker 1: the official President Barack Obama paintings and the First Ladies paintings.

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Speaker 1: You know, they get to pick the artist the portrait

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Speaker 1: the portraits. Yeah, presidential yeah, so I like I like Barack.

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Speaker 1: It was it was good. It was Yeah, I like Baracks.

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Speaker 1: I love Michelle Obama's. I liked her as better. I

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Speaker 1: felt like Barack's, uh was was a little bit busy.

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Speaker 1: I like the way he looked. I felt like the

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Speaker 1: flowers this is my art review. I felt like the

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Speaker 1: flowers in the back were a little busy. But he

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Speaker 1: looked cool, look handsome, looks very presidential. But I thought

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Speaker 1: Michelle Obama's was fantastic. People are fucking bent out of

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Speaker 1: shape over this. Why. I don't know why, because they're

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Speaker 1: not traditional paintings. They're different styles. I don't know why

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Speaker 1: everything they do, you mean, people are like this isn't

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Speaker 1: this shouldn't be in the White House, this is a

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Speaker 1: presidential this, that and the other. They look fantastic. They're

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Speaker 1: they're unique paintings. They're beautiful, they're high end artists. They

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Speaker 1: picked them. Fuck you, what are they supposed to look like?

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Speaker 1: King Arthur from from you know, seventeen seventies six or

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Speaker 1: George Washington portraits. That's what they want. They you know,

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Speaker 1: they did what unconventional artistry or whatever, and and you know,

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Speaker 1: these motherfucker's are all buttoned up. You know, it rubs

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Speaker 1: people the wrong way when it's some new, different type

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Speaker 1: of ship. That's that's all it is. But as long

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Speaker 1: as they had the guts and the bulls to do

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Speaker 1: it their own way, that's the victory. Um. Before we

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Speaker 1: get to Ellen Pompeo, Johnny manziel is on his his

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Speaker 1: recovery tour. Did did you catch him? Ship? They all

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Speaker 1: go to a Good Morning America. That's like, that's like

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Speaker 1: the fucking psychiatrist couch. Yeah, that's where they go. Like,

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Speaker 1: I'm bipolar. Uh, you know, I'm watching other guys doing

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Speaker 1: what I want to be doing. I'm sitting on the

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Speaker 1: couch being a loser. I've been in rehab. Dada da

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Speaker 1: da da da da da da. Listen. I have nothing

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Speaker 1: against Johnny manziel I wish him luck. He's a young kid.

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Speaker 1: He uh you know, got caught up, uh, you know

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Speaker 1: with the drugs and the alcohol and this and that

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Speaker 1: and the other. Good luck to him. But I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you one thing. If he gets a try out with

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Speaker 1: an NFL team and Colin Kaepernick doesn't, We're gonna have

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Speaker 1: a major That's a major fucking problem. Johnny manziel I

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Speaker 1: don't think even if he never even he never got

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Speaker 1: addicted to drugs and and was diagnosed with bipolar and

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Speaker 1: whatever all these other things. Uh, he was never going

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Speaker 1: to be as good as Colin Kaepernick was in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: He's undersized. This ain't rudy. Okay, this ain't a movie. Okay,

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Speaker 1: all that Johnny football. I'm a little scrappy guy. Ship

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00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: that works in the movies and it works in college.

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Speaker 1: That ship wasn't going to work in the NFL. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what I was saying. I was like, I watched

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Speaker 1: that ship in a Good Morning America. But I was like,

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Speaker 1: what does that have to do with on the field?

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Speaker 1: Like you you was a drug addict. You was doing

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Speaker 1: Like you were running around, but you wasn't doing that ship.

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Speaker 1: That's college. So I want you to get back to

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Speaker 1: health and get off the alcohol. But she wasn't really

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Speaker 1: that nice out there. So it don't matter if you

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Speaker 1: in the movie Old School, she was in the movie

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Speaker 1: Ellen Pompeo, big fan, been a big fan, And this

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Speaker 1: is what I've noticed right away because I've seen you.

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Speaker 1: I've been a fan of yours as an actor and

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Speaker 1: obviously on Gray's Anatomy, and then I've seen you a

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Speaker 1: a little bit more of an Nette. You're just in

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Speaker 1: Don't worry, all right? All right? But so, I mean,

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Speaker 1: now you know, I am one of the public enemy

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Speaker 1: number ones as far as Boston sports fans, because you're

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Speaker 1: in New York. I'm a New York guy. Guy. There's

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Speaker 1: as sports. I know you're not a big sports person,

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Speaker 1: but you grew up in what part of Boston. I

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Speaker 1: grew up in a town called Everett, which would be

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Speaker 1: like the equivalent of Brooklyn, right inside the city. And

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Speaker 1: so I did grow up in a very famous time

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Speaker 1: for sports in Boston. You know. I grew up with

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Speaker 1: the MacHale, the Larry Bird, that whole, you know, the

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Speaker 1: seventies super team of the Celtics. So I grew up

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Speaker 1: watching that with my dad and my grandparents. And then

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Speaker 1: when I was older, I was a waitress and I

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Speaker 1: used to work in town and all the guys used

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Speaker 1: to come in, Yeah, the players, and then and then

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Speaker 1: and then you get to see who's cool and who's not.

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Speaker 1: Larry Bird didn't didn't tip me. Are you fucking serious? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: It was super rude to me. And I was a kid.

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Speaker 1: I was probably barely eighteen. But see, I didn't plan

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Speaker 1: on talking to about basketball, and you said, I'm not

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Speaker 1: a sports person. But now you're sucking my head up.

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Speaker 1: So Larry Bird when he was Larry Bird in his

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Speaker 1: prime with the mullet and maybe the mustache, or this

620
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Speaker 1: might even been pre mullet. I mean, how long was

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Speaker 1: graduated high school in eighty seven, so you know that's

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Speaker 1: high school and beyond. And Larry Bird didn't tip you,

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Speaker 1: not a not a nickel listen, who knows. Also, we

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628
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: wasn't the Fleet Center that it was the Garden then,

629
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,959
Speaker 1: and they would walk over after it was a steakhouse.

630
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: It was called Scotch and Soda or something. It's like

631
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: right across the street, and we used to have to

632
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: keep the restaurant open late for them, and uh, you know,

633
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 1: maybe they lost a game. He was in a mood

634
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: who not a tip? I mean like a dollar fifty cents,

635
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,479
Speaker 1: you know, like something, not nothing. Yeah, no, I think

636
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 1: you know he's definitely feeling himself. Then for sure that

637
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 1: was in his prime right that is, even though he

638
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: didn't tip you, that is cool because there's Larry Bird

639
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: as opposed to like. So then I had another job

640
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: at this place, Daisy Buchanans, which is a super famous

641
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 1: um bar on Newberry Street in Boston, and all the

642
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: Bruins would come in and they were amazed tippers. They

643
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: were all good tippers. So so the part of bost

644
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: because I'm not I've literally only been to Boston in

645
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: and out my whole life. Um, the part of Boston

646
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: you camera was tough neighborhood for sure. Yeah. Yeah, not

647
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: not the toughest, but um, you can say it working

648
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: class for sure. I mean there's tough, different kinds of

649
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: tough neighborhood, you would say. I would say, from the outside,

650
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: it looked like a very you know, middle class, working

651
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: class neighborhood, but you know, mob heavy okay, you know

652
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: who are aware of that? Yeah, not like tough like

653
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: the black neighborhoods like Madan, brooklyn Chester and Roxbury and

654
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: Jamaica Plane and all of those neighborhoods back then. You're

655
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: not impressing reference right there, And I just that was

656
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,439
Speaker 1: a good one. Yeah, Madamie was a little far out

657
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: for me. So, but I think that's that was on

658
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 1: the red line or is on the red line. I

659
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,919
Speaker 1: don't know what it looks like today. But so there's

660
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: different types of hard neighborhoods. You know, there's the Irish,

661
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: there's the Italian, and then the black neighborhoods. Is it

662
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: still like that or is it oral sort of melded together?

663
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: Is Boston still like because like literally I don't know, like,

664
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: is it's still sort of segregated like that? I don't

665
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: really go back there really be honest Um, why not?

666
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: It's just not you know, because I love the weather

667
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: here in California, you know, Um, all my dreams came

668
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 1: true here. So how did you wind up? A girl

669
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: from tough part of Boston? One of playing roles that

670
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 1: are always so sweet, because that's sort of like how

671
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: did you funny? It's like people see me there like

672
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 1: America's sweetheart. Wait a second, she opens her mouth, and

673
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess it's you know, what I'm saying, Yeah,

674
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: because that's like, that's what you're good at that. I

675
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: guess it's my physicality. I'm pretty slender. I am you know,

676
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 1: I'm a small person. I'm thin, I'm blonde, I have

677
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: fair skin, I have green eyes, so I'm you know,

678
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: I guess that my small stature and my face. I

679
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: have like a a sweet face. I could play like

680
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 1: I'm tough. I could see you playing like I mean,

681
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: just talk. I was like, I could see you playing

682
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: like a like a whole other we're dying to like

683
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: every whatever, every movie they've made about Boston, the town,

684
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: Gone Baby Gone, like every week, Gone Baby, Gone one

685
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: in Boston, Boston. Every time they do a movie, you know,

686
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: I want to play the fighter. I wanted to do

687
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 1: that movie so bad. Um. Every time they do a

688
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: movie that Departed is like, forget it. You know, I

689
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: could have just completely crushed it because I was so

690
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: in deep in that whole world. Yeah, yeah, kinda um,

691
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: you know, deep to the point where now I realize

692
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 1: how deep in I was. At the time, I didn't

693
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: really have any idea how bad those guys that I

694
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: was running around with were. I got you because they

695
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: were so nice to me. You know, I just you know,

696
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: did some errands and they gave me bags of money.

697
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: Are you so? Yeah? I wasn't until after that I

698
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: sort of realized that, like, wow, those guys are some

699
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 1: serious guys. One of my friends ended up dead, and

700
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 1: and then it sort of dawned to me that it

701
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: was they were probably a little bit more dangerous than

702
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: I was, and you were unaware wink wink. No, I

703
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 1: wasn't really aware of like the violence of it, because

704
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: they all dressed so well, and we're very nice, and

705
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: you know, and you know, just like in those movies,

706
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: you look up to those guys. They took care of everybody.

707
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: They bought groceries for the old ladies. If anybody bothered you,

708
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 1: you know, they took care of them. You know. So

709
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 1: we just like in the movies, you idolize those guys.

710
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: You really did, all right? So you come out to California. No,

711
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: at first, I didn't know anybody in California. You know,

712
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: I lost my mother young as a child, and I

713
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: spent a lot of my childhood going back and forth

714
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: between New York City and Boston, saying aunt and uncle

715
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: who lived in New York City. Um, seven seven seven

716
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: West End Avenue, Upper West Side, and my aunt Ellen

717
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: and uncle Jimmy, and my aunt Ellen is still with us. Um.

718
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,240
Speaker 1: I used to spend a lot of weekends and summers

719
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: with them, and uh, and so I felt familiar with

720
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: New York City. So I sort of all my gay

721
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: friends were moving to Miami, and I knew I could

722
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 1: go to Miami and the weather was nice. Were you

723
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: think actress at this point? Yeah, I just wasn't sure

724
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: how you go about that. You know. It's like I

725
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: knew I had to get out of Boston. I never

726
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: liked Boston. I wasn't um, I knew I wanted more.

727
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: You know, it's a kind of a negative place. I

728
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,919
Speaker 1: had a lot of black friends. It's a very racist place. Um.

729
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,240
Speaker 1: I dealt with a lot of racism from both sides.

730
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: That's very controversial when you say you deal with racism

731
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: from both sides. You know, I've I've been you know,

732
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 1: beat up and spit at from white people and beat

733
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 1: up and spit out from black people. UM. So you know,

734
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:56,720
Speaker 1: I've I've experienced a lot of of hate from all sides.

735
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 1: And and so I just I didn't really like Boston

736
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 1: so much. I got you. I got you. But so

737
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 1: when did you say I want to be an actress?

738
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: What spawned it? When you were a teenager? And like,

739
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,240
Speaker 1: you know, in your early twenties, did you love movies?

740
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: And what movies and actors and actresses were you like

741
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: relating to before you were even doing it? Well, I

742
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: was obsessed with Phifer, you know, I loved Scarface. I

743
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: loved Greece too. I loved Um, Frankie and Johnny all

744
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: those movies. I was obsessed with Puccino and Phifer together. Um,

745
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: so I definitely like she was who I id alized you.

746
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: And um, I love the old movies too though, Batty Davis,

747
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: all of those movies. All about Eve my favorite movie.

748
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 1: My uncle Jimmy showed me All about Eve that I

749
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: think that was the first movie I ever saw. And

750
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: it resonated with you, Yes, for sure, for sure. Yeah.

751
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: And I was super dramatic. You know, I stuffered a

752
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 1: trauma as a child, so I had all the ankst

753
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: and sadness, and I thought, you know, that's definitely going

754
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: to be a way for me to work it out.

755
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: I got you, you know, um And and then how

756
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: do you wind up in Los Angeles? Finally um and

757
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 1: start doing it. I. Uh. So I was in New

758
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: York and I was auditioning for things, and Steven Spielberg

759
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: had sort of been, um, you know, a champion of mine.

760
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 1: I The first job I ever did was a commercial.

761
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: Right was as a Loreal hair commercial and uh it

762
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 1: aired the first time. And then the next day my

763
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: agent called and said I happened to be sitting at

764
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: her desk and someone from Steven's office called and said,

765
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: he wants to meet you commercial off a hair commercial.

766
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: That's crazy. I know, I know, and so I like what,

767
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: I think it's a joke, and I was like, well

768
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: it was. It was very interesting moment for me because

769
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: I was so afraid always to like, how do you

770
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: become an actress? How do you start? I can't move

771
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,399
Speaker 1: to l A. I can't do this. And I moved

772
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: to New York. I got a bartending job because that's

773
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: what I did, That's what I knew how to do.

774
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:06,919
Speaker 1: And and an agent approached me. And I was only

775
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: working there for like three weeks. An agent approached me.

776
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,760
Speaker 1: She was like, I'm an agent whatever. I was like, yeah, whatever.

777
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 1: I thought she was like trying to hit on me

778
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: or something I didn't even know. And then I went

779
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 1: and saw her. She was wrote down three addresses. She said,

780
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 1: go to these places and they were auditions, you know.

781
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: I didn't know really what I was doing. And they

782
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: were all like three national commercials. And I went to

783
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 1: all of them and she called me back four days later.

784
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: She was like, listen, kid, I don't know who you are,

785
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 1: but this is crazy because you have callbacks for all

786
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: these commercials. And then I went to the callbacks and

787
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: then she called me back and she was like, kid,

788
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: you're on fire. You booked all those commercials. And I

789
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: was like, damn, why did I wait so long? Because

790
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: I was twenty six when this happened, right, So I

791
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 1: was like, wow, howd I know? And it was going

792
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: to be so easy. I should have done this ship

793
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: when I was nineties, but especially with national commercials. Yeah. Yeah.

794
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: So then I was doing commercials and then Steven saw

795
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: the commercial and then I said, oh, okay, well I'm

796
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 1: getting some looks, you know, um, this is good. But

797
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 1: then I kicked around and and and some people were like, oh,

798
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,240
Speaker 1: you should move up to l A my agent actually

799
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: at the time, who she's not in the business anymore,

800
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 1: but she moved out to l A and she was like,

801
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 1: you should come with me. And I went out and

802
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I did not fit in out here at all.

803
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: I didn't look like the other girls. I didn't have

804
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: fake boobs, I didn't have a tan. I wasn't wearing

805
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 1: mini skirts and high heels to auditions, you know. I

806
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: was like wearing my Adidas and my baggy jeans and

807
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: no makeup and kind of tomboyish. And she I would

808
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: go into auditions and she would call me and she'd

809
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: she'd say, did you go And I said, yeah, I

810
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: went to the audition and she'd say, oh, they don't

811
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 1: remember you say okay. They literally were making no impact,

812
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,240
Speaker 1: impressional impact. I was like auditioning for like Dawson's Creek,

813
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: right and like making no impact. Um. And so then

814
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: I UM, I came. I went back to New York,

815
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 1: and I would get put on tape for things, and

816
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: then directors would just and then I got this Avy Kaufman,

817
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: who I'm sure you know, he's a big casting director

818
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: from New York called me one day and she was like,

819
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: I heard you in l A. I need you to

820
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 1: go read for this movie for me and I said okay,

821
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: and I read the sides, and of course, like all actors,

822
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: I'm like the worst of them. I'm like, this part

823
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: isn't right for me. I'm not going to be good

824
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: at this. This is terrible. Why do you think I

825
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,439
Speaker 1: should do this? She was, you know, Ellen, just shut

826
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 1: up and just go please. So I go. When I

827
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 1: end up getting the movie and which Moonlight mile um

828
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: young Jake Jillan, who I had met like two weeks

829
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 1: earlier on the street. I was sitting outside of Jones

830
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: on Third and uh, and he came up to my

831
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: car and was like, you're so beautiful, and yeah, he

832
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: would so beautiful. He now like know, I think he

833
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: said like you're the most beautiful girl I've ever seen

834
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: or something. Yeah. It was very smooth with the eyes

835
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:01,919
Speaker 1: and with the eyes, but he wasn't Jake Jillen hard

836
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 1: but still have no idea who he was. And no,

837
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: actually it was like, oh my god, this sweet kid

838
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: because like, by the way, now I'm thirty, Okay, he's younger.

839
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 1: He's younger, he's like nineteen, I'm thirty. So I said, listen,

840
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you two things. Number One, I'm

841
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: probably older than you think I am because I looked

842
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: super young. And number two, don't be embarrassed because you

843
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 1: made my day because I kind of was like, you know, yeah,

844
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: that's cute. You know, I gotta go. But he was

845
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: just a guy then. No, he did ship miracle, he

846
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: was he was doing Donnie Darko and he was filming

847
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 1: all those movies or had just wrapped them. No way,

848
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: No one had no idea who he was. He was

849
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 1: definitely adorable, but he's just a smooth motherfucker on the street. Yeah,

850
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: and I just knew he was younger, and I sort of,

851
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: you know, I had to get out of it in

852
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: a nice way because I knew he was a lot younger,

853
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: and I didn't want him to feel bad because I

854
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: was having a terrible day. I've moved to l A,

855
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 1: I had called had nowhere. I had no idea how

856
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: to get to auditions. You know, this is before ways

857
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: and those Thomas guys, I know, Thomas Thomas Scott. If

858
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: you if you don't know what it is, it was.

859
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: It was like a three inch telephone book, telephone size

860
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 1: book where you could decipher the maps. And this is

861
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: before like navigation. I lived off of Thomas Guy too

862
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: when I came out here, and it would drive you

863
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: nuts because sometimes you couldn't figure out. But when you

864
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: did crack the code, it was like, holy sh it,

865
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 1: I could get from one place to another place. Yeah,

866
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: if I could just get to that place without being late.

867
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: I'm surprised Thomas Guide didn't come up with their own app.

868
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: You're so right. They missed. They should have been controlling

869
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: all that ship like instead of navigation or ways, it

870
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,919
Speaker 1: should be Thomas Guide. The guy who created Thomas Guys

871
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: probably like fucking miserable somewhere. I broke me. They took

872
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: my whole ship, right. I never thought Thomas Guy was

873
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 1: a motherfucker all right, So go ahead. So you got

874
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:01,919
Speaker 1: Miracle Mile Moonlight. That's okay. So I got Moonlight Mile

875
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: and then from that, which is a good little film,

876
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: a great film. It was based on a true story

877
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: of Becachetfer, a girl who was murdered by a stalker

878
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: Um And it was the director Brad silber Ling's girlfriend

879
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: at the time, Um when she was murdered, and it

880
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 1: was his sort of love story to her parents about

881
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: the relationship that he had with her parents after she

882
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: had passed. It was loosely based on the events it was.

883
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: It was, you know, he changed the events, but he

884
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: wrote it and directed it was something so dear to

885
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: his heart. The movie wasn't as big, I think as

886
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 1: we all would have hoped it would be, but it

887
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: was critically a claim to it got talked about. It did,

888
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: and this is what little movies, you know, like the

889
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: I don't know they matter more than they did then,

890
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,919
Speaker 1: but like little movies like they would stick out. Yeah,

891
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: I think the subject matter. I think for the studio,

892
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 1: the subject matter was sad too, sad. You know, they

893
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: didn't know how to market this movie because it was

894
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: about a girl death and the family grieving. So you know,

895
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: I think that's you know, on the business end. I

896
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: think that's what happened to the movie. But it did

897
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,919
Speaker 1: its job by the way of everybody noticed me from

898
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: it and you started getting And so what was that

899
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: like for you when you start getting hot for the

900
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,280
Speaker 1: first time, like where you're you're in a legit movie

901
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: with Dustin Hoffman, young Jake General and people are starting

902
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: to call it and you're thirty now, and so what

903
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,280
Speaker 1: what was that little experience? Like what meetings did you take?

904
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,879
Speaker 1: What was cool? What was like the most exciting sort

905
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 1: of thing. From that, I was like, damn, why didn't

906
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: I do this sooner? Right? I didn't know it was

907
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: gonna be this easy, you know. And from so I

908
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 1: started when I was twenty five. I went to New

909
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 1: York when I was twenty five. So from twenty to

910
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 1: thirties relatively short time to me, you know, five or

911
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: six years. I did struggle in that time. You know.

912
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: It's not like it was all roses. Every time I

913
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: would come out to l A and nobody would know

914
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: who I was. Then I would go back to New

915
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: York and do some commercials and make some money. But um,

916
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: so so it was I met everybody. I mean, I

917
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,399
Speaker 1: I went into Harvey at the Peninsula, I got sent

918
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 1: up in there. I signed to C A A and

919
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: um yeah, and uh and you're doing general meetings with

920
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: this one and that one general meeting for this porn

921
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: beatty uh, Harvey, UM, Sam Mendez, all of them, you know,

922
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: uh J. J. Abrams. I met um, you know Sam Mendez.

923
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: We we laughed about it later, but sa Amendez said

924
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: to me, you know, don't do television. And I said

925
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: to him, I met him for that movie Road to perdition,

926
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 1: and it was it was an audition for the role

927
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: of a waitress. It was like one scene she had

928
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: no lines. And I said, you know, Sam, you have

929
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: the power to change the game for me right now. Okay,

930
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: I look great in the waitress uniform. I've worn one

931
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: of my whole goddamn life. You can't just give me

932
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: this one an extra scene, motherfucker. I'm not playing an

933
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: extra but I will. I was fine to do it.

934
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 1: You know. He was the biggest thing, Juli, the biggest

935
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: thing at the time, and he was just like, well,

936
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 1: you know, if if I this sounds like bragging, but

937
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 1: if I remember correctly, at the time, he said, the

938
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 1: scene is about Jude Law. The scene can't be about you.

939
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 1: And if I put you in this scene, it was

940
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 1: some bullshit, he saying to me, you know, if I

941
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: put you in the scene, the scene is going to

942
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:17,720
Speaker 1: become about you, and the scene has to be about

943
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 1: Jude Law. So I was like, Okay, that's a smooth

944
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,879
Speaker 1: motherfucker right there. Who's not giving me the job? I said,

945
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 1: But still, you still if I walk out of here

946
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: saying I just booked the Sam Mendez movie, that's going

947
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 1: to change the game for me. And if you're not

948
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 1: going to give me a job, how are you going

949
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 1: to tell me not to do television? And he said, well,

950
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 1: I know it's pilot season. I know they're probably trying

951
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: to get you to do TV. You just shouldn't do it.

952
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: And this is two two thousand one and two thousand too,

953
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,320
Speaker 1: and and lo and behold, I mean the fucking TV

954
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: ze guys changed so crazy. It's so crazy. But it

955
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 1: actually had to be later than two thousand do It

956
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 1: had to be more like two thousand three, and had

957
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 1: to be closer to the time when I when I

958
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: did the grayst pilot, it had to be closer to that.

959
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: But anyway, Sam and I have since seen each other

960
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: and we've laughed about it, and he owned up to

961
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 1: what he was like when an asshole. I right, right,

962
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: you know, we had a good laugh about it. Um,

963
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, listen, and I give Shonda Rhymes a lot

964
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: of credit. I think Raises is partly responsible for changing

965
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 1: the TV game absolutely. I mean I think the whole

966
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: I mean the TV game. I mean I think that

967
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: the pinpoint is James Gandelfini the Sopranos, and that's Cable obviously,

968
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 1: and then Shonda on ABC came in, and I mean

969
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 1: she's tooking it to another level because you know, the

970
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: exposure on ABC, no matter how good Showtime, HBO and

971
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 1: any AMC all that stuff, ABC is everybody has ABC.

972
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: And and now it's like, I mean, the movie business,

973
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 1: it's like unless you're doing a d C comics movie,

974
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 1: even the movies, the smaller movies, it's a weird time

975
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: because the smaller movies get nominated, but no one sees them,

976
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 1: right like if you look, still an incredible bias, right Like,

977
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 1: it's not like I could ever be up for I mean, listen,

978
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,879
Speaker 1: I I work, you know, ten months out of the year,

979
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: and I don't have a lot of free time anyway.

980
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: But it's it's not like anyone's checking for me. For

981
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 1: big Disney does movies. I work for Disney. I'm one

982
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: of the biggest money makers Disney has. I don't get

983
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,879
Speaker 1: off for Disney movies. Well that's because you're busy, though,

984
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: what they don't whatever, if they wanted to make it work,

985
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 1: I mean, this is the work it is. But girls

986
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 1: won't talk about that. Actresses won't talk about that. They

987
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:33,240
Speaker 1: won't say nobody wants me I'll say that. I'm okay,

988
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: I'm okay to say that. That's what it is when

989
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: you say nobody wants you for movies, but in this

990
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 1: day and age where we are now two thousand, like movies.

991
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: It's like if you're working on a TV show and successful,

992
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 1: you have kids, like, sure, what am I going to

993
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 1: do this? Not not because it's not the money, but

994
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 1: like even creatively, like the only reason why you want

995
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 1: to continue working in between your schedule and being a

996
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 1: TV actress. Let me tell you, motherfucker's it's not easy

997
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 1: a lot of time. You've got three kids. I don't

998
00:55:57,840 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 1: care if the show has been on fourteen years one year.

999
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 1: To grind, it's an absolute grind. It's hard, hard work.

1000
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: It has to be something special for you at this point,

1001
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 1: and it wouldn't be money involved. It have to be

1002
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 1: like you really want to do it right right. But

1003
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying even you know, five years ago, I'm saying,

1004
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 1: even before I had kids, or eight years ago before

1005
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: I had kids, you know, there's a real stigma attached

1006
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 1: to UM to network television actors. I agree, I agree,

1007
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: And that's okay because listen, you know, everyone's gotta eat

1008
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and you don't need the

1009
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: whole pot. I don't need the whole pot. I have

1010
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: a slice and I'm good with that. You got a

1011
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 1: big I want to get to that, all right. So

1012
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: Gray's anatomy. You read this pilot. Shanna Reimes is in SHAWNA. Reimes.

1013
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 1: You have you know, you've had success in some films.

1014
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 1: It's not TV now where like TV is the place

1015
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: to be. Sam Men does is telling you don't do TV.

1016
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 1: You're probably like, I want to be the next Michelle

1017
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 1: Peiffer and all this stuff. When you got to the

1018
00:56:56,719 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 1: part of testing, like when you're auditioning as as younger

1019
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: actor or at any point they have you do network testing.

1020
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 1: This is like the final I didn't do that though,

1021
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: so break that I had done a couple of I

1022
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 1: had done like Eternal Sunshine of a Spotless Mind with

1023
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 1: Jim Carrey and Michelle Goundry, Daredevil with Affleck. I was

1024
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: trying to work Old School, you know. Jon Favreau directed

1025
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 1: that Old School, which is a classic, which is a classic.

1026
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 1: I was trying to work with dope directors and do

1027
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: great movies, even if the part was small. I was

1028
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 1: just trying to be a part of really good projects,

1029
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 1: but I kept sort of getting cut out. You know.

1030
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: I did catch me if you can with Steven. Eventually

1031
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 1: I ended up doing that with Leo and and he

1032
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: was super cool and like, let me pick the part

1033
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 1: that I wanted, which was really nice. Yeah, I love

1034
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 1: that guy. He's amazing that guy. Before you skip over that,

1035
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 1: what was I mean? Leonardo Capito was such a star,

1036
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 1: such of like he's like the last of a dying

1037
00:57:57,840 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 1: breed in terms of for sure, you don't have to

1038
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 1: do any talk shows. He's Leonardo Dicapril. What is your

1039
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 1: takeaway from working with Leonardo DiCaprio. I mean, listen, Leo

1040
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 1: and I. You know, we have a birthday's very close together.

1041
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: His birthday is like the day after mine. I mean,

1042
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 1: I love the dude. I love him. I think he's

1043
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: crazy talented. I'd watch him sit on a sidewalk. You know, Um,

1044
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Speaker 1: I really am. I'm a huge fan. And what about Spielberg?

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00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 1: What is he like to be directed by my experience

1046
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: on that, you know, I was so nervous, man. You know,

1047
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: my first day I had to show up and I

1048
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: had to like jump in a bed with Leo. My

1049
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 1: first day on a Spielberg movie, you know what I mean.

1050
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 1: My first scene was like in a bed with him,

1051
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 1: so I was too nervous to even know what was

1052
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: going on. You're just there. Yeah. It was just like

1053
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 1: you know, out of body experience, like all my dreams

1054
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 1: coming true, and you know, but it was it wasn't

1055
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 1: really paying I was. I was having all these amazing experiences,

1056
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: but I wasn't really paying the rent. I wasn't making

1057
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 1: money even old School, even on something like Old School,

1058
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you know so, and to me, old school

1059
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 1: was I thought at the time, you know, stupid me.

1060
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 1: You you hear Spielberg. You here, DiCaprio, Okay, Todd Phillips

1061
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 1: wasn't Todd Phillips then first thing? And Will Ferrell it

1062
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 1: was a different cast. It wasn't Will Ferrell. It wasn't

1063
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: those guys. It was Todd Phillips, but it was three

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00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: different actors. I can't remember who it was now. And

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00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 1: I was like, this is like a guy comedy. Why

1066
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: do they even want me for this? Again? Here I

1067
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 1: go again with like making the worst decisions ever. This

1068
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 1: isn't gonna be good. Why do they want me for this?

1069
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 1: I'm an actress. I want to be in these big

1070
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 1: movies with these amazing directors. Who's this Todd Phillips guy.

1071
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 1: But then I met Todd and he's so nice and

1072
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 1: so smart. He's clearly such a genius when you meet

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00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 1: him and speak to him, and I really liked him.

1074
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 1: And so he's the one who convinced me to do it,

1075
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 1: and it turned out to be one of the best things,

1076
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 1: you know, I ever did. But how did that script read?

1077
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 1: Because we all know how to not nearly? Is funny.

1078
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 1: It's like, so, so one thing about that movie, which

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01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 1: is Todd's genius. You know that the dark scene where

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01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 1: like he gets he gets the dark. Yeah, Frank, the

1081
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: dank gets darted that You know they in editing, they

1082
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 1: put that in slow motion or maybe actually they filmed

1083
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 1: it ninety frames a second or whatever it is when

1084
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 1: you roll the camera slow motion. At that time, I

1085
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 1: didn't know that that's what they were doing, you know.

1086
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 1: And um, and so when you see that and it's

1087
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 1: in slow motion, it's like, ah, you know that that

1088
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 1: was in my infancy stages. I don't know what the

1089
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 1: funk I was doing or what was going on. I

1090
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 1: was just trying to you know, not to get in

1091
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 1: trouble or stand in the right spot and say the

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01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 1: right line. I got. Um, I just couldn't kind of

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01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 1: believe where I was. Will Farrell was a gentleman. Amazing.

1094
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 1: The day Snoop came to do that song was probably,

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01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 1: you know the highlight of my career. Yeah, I love

1096
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 1: Snoop um and pomp pizzle. He calls me, I see

1097
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 1: I see him at Laker games. Sometimes it's like I

1098
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 1: see pump. Snoop is like he's like he should be

1099
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 1: the ambassador for the United States. Everybody loves Snoop. All right,

1100
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 1: So Gray's anatomy. So I'm sorry interrupted because I had

1101
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 1: to double back on those two because people would be

1102
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 1: and myself I would be if I didn't talk about

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01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 1: catching Vicanan of course old school, just to dip in

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Speaker 1: there for a second, all right, So Gray's anatomy. Everybody,

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01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 1: We're start with Grays Maddie and like then you got

1106
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 1: you're making twenty million dollars a year. That's the that's

1107
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 1: the okay. So what happened was so I went so

1108
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 1: I got a call to go in and meet J.

1109
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 1: J Abrams. J J Abrams said that was doing Aliens

1110
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 1: at the time, they said, want to bring you on Aliens.

1111
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 1: I wanted to play Jennifer Garner's sister, and I was like,

1112
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 1: your genius, this is amazing that I'm sitting here. I

1113
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 1: really would love to work for you, but I don't

1114
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 1: want to be Jennifer Garner's sister. Um, you know, did

1115
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 1: this movie and that movie? I really around an No,

1116
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 1: not about Jennifer Garner. You just didn't want to play

1117
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 1: this this second. Yeah, I didn't. Well, the truth is is, listen,

1118
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 1: I had been in Daredevil with Jennifer right and the

1119
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 1: girls so gorgeous that the whole movie became about her.

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Speaker 1: I mean, no one's even looking at Ben Affleck honestly,

1121
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 1: Jennifer barn because she's perfect looking. And I got cut

1122
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 1: out of that movie. So I was like, you know,

1123
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 1: I'm not stupid, right, I don't want to play her

1124
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 1: sister and get you know. So I was like, I'd

1125
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 1: love to do my own show. If you want to

1126
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 1: write me a show, I'd love to do that. That's

1127
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 1: cool that you had Bolls, so, like, I mean confidence

1128
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 1: in Bolls to say that ship at a young your

1129
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 1: or he you know, like he said, like you're crazy like, Okay,

1130
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 1: you're saying no to me, but like in a nice way.

1131
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 1: So so he I was. He was like, what are

1132
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 1: you gonna go do now? I was like, I need

1133
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 1: I need money, right because I needed money because I

1134
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 1: kept getting caught out of these movies and whatever and

1135
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 1: holding out for good directors wasn't I wasn't taking any

1136
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 1: money jobs, so I needed money. So I was gonna

1137
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 1: go to Spain to do this TV movie of the

1138
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 1: Week in Spain with Billy Baldwin. So jedj Arams is

1139
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 1: laughing at me, and he said, you are gonna pass

1140
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 1: up this opportunity to work for me, and you're gonna

1141
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 1: go where You're gonna go to Barcelona to do a

1142
01:02:56,680 --> 01:03:00,439
Speaker 1: movie with Billy Baldwin, So a TV movie the Week,

1143
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 1: no less, And I said yes, because I'm gonna get

1144
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 1: to live in Barcelona for two months. They're gonna give

1145
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 1: me a bucket of cash, and um, that's what I

1146
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 1: want to do. I want to go see Spain. You

1147
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 1: know I've never been. So he was like, okay, kid,

1148
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 1: you're kind of crazy, but go ahead. And and you know,

1149
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 1: of course, actors are notorious for making bad decisions on

1150
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 1: their own. Behalf right, We're notorious, absolutely, so we're our

1151
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 1: own worst enemies. Can't get out of our own way.

1152
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 1: So I do this movie and then stupid Movie of

1153
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 1: the Week, and in Barcelona, had a great time with

1154
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 1: Billy though he was a gentleman and we had fun

1155
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 1: and saw all the sites and eight great food. And

1156
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 1: I came back and uh, I get a call that

1157
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 1: Alex Kurtzman and Bob Orsey, who were writers on ALIAS

1158
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 1: who worked for JJ, We're going to write a pilot

1159
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 1: called Secret Service and I could go screen tests for

1160
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 1: the lead. So I was like, no, bokay fail and

1161
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 1: this is it. So I want to go do that.

1162
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 1: And then my agent calls and says, there's a there's

1163
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 1: a medical pilot at the network that Lloyd Braun really

1164
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 1: wants you to do. They don't want you to do

1165
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 1: this Secret Service show. They want you to do the

1166
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 1: medical pilot. And I said, I don't want to do

1167
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 1: a medical show. I want to go do the cool

1168
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 1: Secret Service show. Let me go do that. So they

1169
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 1: let me. They entertained me and let me go screen

1170
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 1: test for the Secret Service show. And then they said,

1171
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 1: you know that glock looks ridiculous in your hands. You're

1172
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 1: ninety pounds soaking wet. They want you to do the

1173
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 1: medical pilot. So I hammed in hoart and I don't

1174
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 1: want to do it, and do my thing that I

1175
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 1: always do and say no before yes, and then um.

1176
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 1: Finally my agent was like, Ellen, just do the pilot

1177
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 1: and make some money. These things never go stop it.

1178
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 1: So I was like, okay. So I went did the

1179
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 1: pilots of Grace. I didn't have to audition, I didn't

1180
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 1: have to screen test, I didn't have to do anything.

1181
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 1: I went and met Shawonda Um at Barney's Green Grass

1182
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 1: and we had lunch French fries and chicken salad, and

1183
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 1: I sat and spoke with her and I really liked her,

1184
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 1: and I said, okay, I'll do this. I like this lady.

1185
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 1: And that's and then and then we did the pilot.

1186
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 1: Fourteen years later, we did the pilot, and we were

1187
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 1: hearing through the whole thing, or filming the pilot and

1188
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 1: filming the first shoot. We had an order for like

1189
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 1: Third Team, right, and we were hearing the whole time.

1190
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 1: The studio didn't like the show. They might not air it.

1191
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 1: They try to change the name at one point to complications.

1192
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 1: It was originally anatomy. It was originally Grays Anatomy. Then

1193
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 1: they didn't like it so much. They were trying to

1194
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 1: mess around with the name and change it and so interesting.

1195
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 1: This is also this is also my version of it, right,

1196
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 1: this is also my version getting Shanna has her own

1197
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 1: version of how I mean, who knows, but I'm saying

1198
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 1: in terms of dealing with the network, like, yeah, the

1199
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Speaker 1: stress and like it's going, it's not going, and uh,

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01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 1: you know it's happening, it's not happening, and you think

1201
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 1: it's you didn't even want to do it. Essentially, you

1202
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:52,919
Speaker 1: want to go shoot guns and be a secret service agent. Yeah.

1203
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:57,440
Speaker 1: When did the show go from uncertainty to like, this

1204
01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 1: is a good show. The day after we mirrored we

1205
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 1: so so they gave well, they must have had some

1206
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 1: promise in the show because they gave us the time

1207
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 1: slot after Desperate Housewives. And at that time, Desperate Housewives

1208
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 1: was a smash, right, they were doing like twenty five

1209
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 1: million people. That was back then. You'll listen to me

1210
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 1: dating myself, but that was back when TV numbers were

1211
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 1: twenty five millions. You know, people have hits on the air.

1212
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 1: Now they're calling eight million people it's a hit. It's

1213
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 1: a smash nine million people. We used to do twenty

1214
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 1: five million people. I think the Super Bowl episode we

1215
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 1: did like twenty six million or something like that, but

1216
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 1: that was what. Numbers were huge, and so Desperate Housewives

1217
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 1: was their breakout hit. They gave us the time slot

1218
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 1: after Desperate Housewives, so that's when we kind of knew, well,

1219
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 1: they're giving us a great chance, because you know, your

1220
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 1: time slot is everything. Someone believed in something to give

1221
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 1: us that time slot. And so once we had that

1222
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 1: time slot, we aired after Desperate The numbers were huge,

1223
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 1: and then it was like off to the races and

1224
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:00,680
Speaker 1: it just kept going. Well, yeah, he had one day

1225
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 1: of work left shooting, so we aired on a Sunday night,

1226
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 1: and then we worked Monday, and that was our last

1227
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:10,479
Speaker 1: day of season one, so then we had the whole

1228
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 1: and then the whole the whole season, the nine episodes

1229
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 1: would air, but we were on break. So I mean,

1230
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Speaker 1: I've had great fortune, but the kind of television segment

1231
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 1: I'm not even into the money thing, but the when

1232
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 1: you you're going to season three, season four, season eight, nine, ten,

1233
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 1: all the way to season fourteen, and you know, like

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01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 1: you know the show is coming back. How much of

1235
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 1: a relief forget the money stuff, because I want to

1236
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 1: get to that, but how much a relief of the

1237
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 1: stress of knowing, Okay, I'm starting to work in August

1238
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna work eight nine months out of the year.

1239
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 1: How much value is in that for you as an actress?

1240
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm saying? As and as a person,

1241
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 1: because so much of what you deal with as an

1242
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 1: actor as an actresses business is the uncertainy my next job,

1243
01:07:57,400 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 1: this is my last job, is this show going far?

1244
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 1: I just did this show, it's great, it got canceled.

1245
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 1: Oh I did one season. Oh we're gonna do tuesdayson

1246
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 1: got canceled. And then, you know, like to have that

1247
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 1: sort of like, this is my fucking job and it's

1248
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 1: a dope job. It's successful, and you're Gray, You're Margaret

1249
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 1: fucking Gray, Like, like, how much Meredith, sorry, how much

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Speaker 1: does that mean to you? Like to have that sort

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01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:25,680
Speaker 1: of like certainty as opposed to even the greatest of

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01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 1: great actors have so much uncertainty. It's everything. Because the

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01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 1: truth is is so I just now started feeling secure,

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01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 1: just like now. I I always have been like justin

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01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 1: Chambers and I, who plays Alex Karev, is a you know,

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01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:43,559
Speaker 1: really dear friend of mine, and he and I are

1257
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 1: are very close, and I always say to him, you know,

1258
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:49,560
Speaker 1: this is the last year of the show. This is

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01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:51,800
Speaker 1: the last year of the show. Because listen, I mean,

1260
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 1: I never get comfortable because you know this business, you

1261
01:08:56,560 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 1: know this town. You say one wrong thing, you're done.

1262
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 1: You do one wrong thing, you're done. You do something

1263
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 1: you didn't even know what's wrong, you're done. You say

1264
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 1: something you didn't even know what's wrong, and you're done.

1265
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:12,760
Speaker 1: So I've never taken it for granted. I always feel

1266
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:15,640
Speaker 1: like they're gonna hate us next week, you know. And

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01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 1: and maybe that's why I'm able to get up and

1268
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 1: grind the way I do and work the way I do.

1269
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 1: I have a strong work ethic. I've been working since

1270
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:27,680
Speaker 1: I'm young. I've never taken for granted that, oh, this

1271
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 1: show will keep going on. And that must be why

1272
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 1: I keep doing it, because I that part of the

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01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 1: acting it was never good for my personality. The not

1274
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 1: knowing what your future is, not knowing this audition, walking

1275
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:46,240
Speaker 1: into this room and being judged by these people, and

1276
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:48,800
Speaker 1: are they gonna like me? Are they not gonna like me,

1277
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 1: Are they going to accept me? Are there not? That's

1278
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 1: not enough control for me. I don't like that scenario,

1279
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:57,839
Speaker 1: you know, to like it's it doesn't make me feel secure.

1280
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:01,679
Speaker 1: So for me, for me to be able to feel

1281
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 1: secure and confident, I like staying right where I know

1282
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:09,559
Speaker 1: my bread is buttered. And I don't like going off

1283
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 1: into the to the unknown and the abyss. And you know,

1284
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:15,560
Speaker 1: maybe people say you don't take enough risks, or I

1285
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 1: should take more risks, or that's not who take more risks.

1286
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I'm just I'm just

1287
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 1: you know, saying that. You know, for me, it's like

1288
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 1: I've never taken it for granted that the show is

1289
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 1: coming back. I just now recently feel like, you know,

1290
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 1: because I know we're probably just gonna do two more

1291
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 1: seasons than that will be it. But I've always felt

1292
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:37,759
Speaker 1: like the show can the ratings can dive at any minute.

1293
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 1: Look at these TV shows. One minute they're hot, the

1294
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:44,439
Speaker 1: next minute no one's watching. Ratings can go from twelve

1295
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:48,759
Speaker 1: million to five million overnight. I mean those ratings on Empire,

1296
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:55,040
Speaker 1: Dove Dove. You don't know, you can't take anything for granted, ever,

1297
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 1: so I try not to. Yeah. So, I mean there's

1298
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 1: been actors come go and this show. I mean there's

1299
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 1: been so many different uh you know, obviously there's guest stars,

1300
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 1: there's you know, there's the McDreamy part, you know. I

1301
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 1: mean there's so many different people that have been on

1302
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 1: the on the show and for fourteen years. When I

1303
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 1: say great actors that you've stood across even going into

1304
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 1: you know, films, who are the people that like have

1305
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 1: stuck out for you during the fourteen years, Like when

1306
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:25,560
Speaker 1: you're across with them, like we're like, oh, shoot, this

1307
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 1: motherfucker is really good. Well, I gotta tell you. The

1308
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 1: one that's coming to mind most recently is because I

1309
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 1: just finished rapping it was I just did an episode

1310
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 1: Scott Speedman, and um, who you know hasn't been on

1311
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:39,599
Speaker 1: the Network show in a very long time, right, he's

1312
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:42,560
Speaker 1: on that show Animal Kingdom, um, which he just is

1313
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 1: not on that show anymore. Um, But he just finished

1314
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 1: his his tour on that show and came to Grays

1315
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:51,720
Speaker 1: for one episode and and I was like, I had

1316
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 1: a great time with him. I had a great time

1317
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:57,760
Speaker 1: this God, he was really good, really connected. That's a

1318
01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 1: good actor right there. I mean another one is Denzel

1319
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 1: who didn't act with me but directed me. And I

1320
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:07,680
Speaker 1: was just like man on Cloud nine. So what was

1321
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:12,599
Speaker 1: that like an actor? If somebody say Denzel described Denzel

1322
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:14,599
Speaker 1: Washington is an actor because I do it all the time,

1323
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 1: what do you see in him? You know what I

1324
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 1: love about Denzel? Denzel would say I never I never

1325
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 1: did this to him, but other actors would ask him

1326
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:27,880
Speaker 1: questions why am I doing this? And he would say yeah.

1327
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 1: He'd say, you don't know. You don't know why you're

1328
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:34,479
Speaker 1: doing that. You need to know why you're doing that.

1329
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 1: What the fund are you asking me for? You? This

1330
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 1: is your character. You should know what you're doing. You know,

1331
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 1: he respects people who are confident and who know what

1332
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 1: they're doing. And um, and I I never asked in anything.

1333
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:52,639
Speaker 1: I would never ask him that question. Never right right,

1334
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:57,680
Speaker 1: nor would I. UM, but he's a super intense man.

1335
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:01,599
Speaker 1: You talk about people who have a vibration, and you know, um,

1336
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 1: he's got a vibration, your aura, your vibration, whatever you

1337
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 1: want to call it. There's certain people that have it right.

1338
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:11,840
Speaker 1: They just walk in a room and you know they're

1339
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 1: in the room, even if your back is to them.

1340
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:17,560
Speaker 1: You feel some energy shift in the room. That's a

1341
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:20,640
Speaker 1: star when the energy shifts in a room, and you know,

1342
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:25,000
Speaker 1: Rihanna has that, Oprah has that, Barack Obama has that.

1343
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 1: You've been around Barack Obama, Leo has it, Gaprio has it.

1344
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 1: You know. So it's I mean the general term is charisma, yeah,

1345
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:36,840
Speaker 1: or vibrary. It's just there's just a thing. They just

1346
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:41,479
Speaker 1: have a thing. Yeah, it's a vibe. Yeah, yeah, that's

1347
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 1: how are you ron Barack Obama? Did you meet Barack Obama? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,

1348
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 1: Well is going on here? Man ship man? Because of

1349
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 1: this think I'm the only person in Hollywood who didn't

1350
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:57,559
Speaker 1: mean Barack Obama. There's fucking d fucking c level actors

1351
01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 1: and the cousin I was not. I've never gotten for

1352
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 1: eight years. They're like friends, like you didn't play basketball

1353
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:06,880
Speaker 1: with Barack Obama, Michael, not one turned him. They let

1354
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 1: you in the White House. I didn't go to the

1355
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 1: White House. No. The first time I ever met him

1356
01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 1: was Oprah. I had a fundraiser for this new you know,

1357
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 1: candidate Barack Obama. No one had ever heard of him.

1358
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 1: I had never heard of him. I had never seen him.

1359
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 1: And the show was already popped. The show was was popping,

1360
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:27,560
Speaker 1: and uh and we went up to Oprah's estate in Montecito,

1361
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 1: forty acres, beautiful place. And I had done oprah show

1362
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 1: a couple of times because of my show, and we

1363
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:38,680
Speaker 1: got invited and it was this smooth, smooth dude in

1364
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 1: a suit smoking a cigarette and I was like, that's

1365
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 1: the guy and that was him and that was that

1366
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:50,360
Speaker 1: was the first time I ever met him. And then yeah,

1367
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 1: it was it was really cool. It was really cool,

1368
01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 1: and I was like, this is amazing, and I was,

1369
01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 1: you know, on board right away. Obviously. I think Stevie

1370
01:14:57,320 --> 01:15:00,040
Speaker 1: Wonder performed and Oprah had like a big you know,

1371
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 1: she had a big fundraiser up at her place for him.

1372
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 1: And then and then I met him another time in

1373
01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 1: New York City. Um, it was a very small, little

1374
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 1: cocktail reception with only like ten people. And uh, yeah,

1375
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:16,719
Speaker 1: that's really cool. You know, I've met because of the show.

1376
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:21,120
Speaker 1: I've met I've spoken to Bill Clinton on the phone

1377
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:24,599
Speaker 1: on the phone, not in real life, not in real life,

1378
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:26,679
Speaker 1: because I met him. And let me tell you something,

1379
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 1: that motherfucker is a charm. I met him. We talked

1380
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 1: for about two minutes, but I could soon he was

1381
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:34,479
Speaker 1: just talking about movies. Like I was like, oh ship Bill,

1382
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 1: He's like I like you and just justified and that

1383
01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 1: I was like, I get it. I was like this

1384
01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 1: fucking guy with his blue eyes and his show. I

1385
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:44,680
Speaker 1: was like, oh ship by me talking about vibrations. Going

1386
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 1: to the Denzel little but like you know, there's just

1387
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 1: certain and it's it's not necessarily the best looking person.

1388
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:51,680
Speaker 1: It's just a I don't know, like a coolness or

1389
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 1: a charisma. It's just charisma, charisma. It's like Miles Davis

1390
01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 1: wasn't the best trumpeter, but if you ask who's the

1391
01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:01,120
Speaker 1: most famous, to Miles Davis because he's just the way,

1392
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 1: he's the whole thing named Miles Davis. So going to

1393
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:07,760
Speaker 1: the Denzel so aside from that, when he's directing you

1394
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:09,880
Speaker 1: on the show, like what else you got from me?

1395
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 1: Because that's like my like, I mean, that's please. And

1396
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 1: you know, so Debbie Allen, who's our executive producer, who's

1397
01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 1: very friend, who's good friends with Denzel, she got him

1398
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:21,280
Speaker 1: to come and you know, she didn't want to tell

1399
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:22,880
Speaker 1: me for you know, I knew she was trying to

1400
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:24,320
Speaker 1: get him, but she didn't want to tell me, And

1401
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:27,559
Speaker 1: he was getting ready to direct Fences, and so I think,

1402
01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 1: you know, it was just a good little warm up

1403
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:31,960
Speaker 1: for him. You know, he wasn't doing anything at that

1404
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:35,640
Speaker 1: particular that couple of weeks he was free, and you know,

1405
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:38,240
Speaker 1: Debbie Allen can pretty much get anyone to do anything.

1406
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 1: So when she finally dropped the news, I was just like,

1407
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 1: what you kidd And he comes on set and he's

1408
01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:48,040
Speaker 1: directing an episode of Gray's Anatomy. Yes, and be honest,

1409
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:50,559
Speaker 1: I mean Gray's Anatomy. This is the highest of highest

1410
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 1: network shows. But the director on a TV show, it's

1411
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 1: like it's a revolving door. Yes. I mean obviously you

1412
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 1: guys have probably have a family of people that do it.

1413
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 1: But like in the early like I know, when I've

1414
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 1: done tell it's like, oh, who the fund is directing?

1415
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 1: And you're like, I've done thisisode. You're not gonna be

1416
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:08,519
Speaker 1: able to tell me, right, I mean, listen, certain people

1417
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:10,880
Speaker 1: shouldn't come in and tell us, but certain people should

1418
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:14,000
Speaker 1: because listen, we're on a wheel, right, We're on the

1419
01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 1: hamster wheel, and no one can get into bad habits

1420
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 1: the way network twenty four episode TV actors can get

1421
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:24,200
Speaker 1: into bad happics, right, just because you just it's like

1422
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:26,080
Speaker 1: punch and o'clock. You know, we're doing the same thing

1423
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:28,840
Speaker 1: every day. We're saying the same kind of dialogue where

1424
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:31,160
Speaker 1: we're in the same clothes. We never step out of

1425
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:34,600
Speaker 1: our comfort zones, so we do get bad habits. So

1426
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:37,080
Speaker 1: you do it. It would be nice if someone would

1427
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 1: come in and say, hey, listen, you know, stop moving

1428
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:41,719
Speaker 1: your head so much or stop throwing your hand around,

1429
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 1: because I've noticed that's something you do to emphasize and

1430
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:47,760
Speaker 1: you don't need to do that. Um so, you know.

1431
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:50,600
Speaker 1: But he Yeah, Denzel came on. You know, we're a locomotive.

1432
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:53,720
Speaker 1: We're filming twenty four episodes. But Debbie was with him

1433
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:57,240
Speaker 1: the whole way, you know, and the episode was Meredith centric.

1434
01:17:57,600 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 1: It was really just me and a couple of other

1435
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 1: care there. It wasn't everybody in the episode. I was

1436
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 1: beaten up by an epileptic patient, which is a true

1437
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:08,000
Speaker 1: story that we took from this video we found about

1438
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:12,519
Speaker 1: a nurse who was attacked by someone having an epileptic seizure,

1439
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:16,439
Speaker 1: and uh so it was based on true events that

1440
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 1: we had a video of a security video from a hospital.

1441
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:23,800
Speaker 1: So we had this, and uh and yeah, that's you know,

1442
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 1: one of the high the other highlights. I mean, my

1443
01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 1: path has been an interesting one in all the ways.

1444
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:32,840
Speaker 1: I didn't expect it, you know. I wanted to do

1445
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:35,680
Speaker 1: this and I wanted to do that. But even though

1446
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:37,760
Speaker 1: I've been on the show for so long and and

1447
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:40,720
Speaker 1: that wouldn't appear from the outside to be the most

1448
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 1: creative path. I have an awful lot of my boxes

1449
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:48,800
Speaker 1: checked Cleo of work with Spielberg, I work with I

1450
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:52,640
Speaker 1: don't know why, you know, I don't know, I just

1451
01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:55,720
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, it's especially where we are now.

1452
01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:58,840
Speaker 1: It's like you've got people, you know, that come out

1453
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:03,080
Speaker 1: of nowhere. There fucking like Justin Bieber. Think about Justin Bieber.

1454
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 1: He's a fucking kid on YouTube playing and now he's

1455
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:09,519
Speaker 1: Justin Bieber, like and that's how many years ago. Now

1456
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:12,519
Speaker 1: you have people like it's YouTube this and musicians this,

1457
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:14,439
Speaker 1: and like you don't even need to like go to

1458
01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:17,200
Speaker 1: a record executive. You could go on Instagram and get it.

1459
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:19,360
Speaker 1: You could sing in the next thing, you know. I mean, actors,

1460
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 1: I I encourage young actors like, well, I'm not getting work.

1461
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:25,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, go on Instagram, do scenes we'll fucking find you,

1462
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:27,640
Speaker 1: just the same way they find rappers and musicians go

1463
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:30,519
Speaker 1: on YouTube, do scenes from Shakespeare, do scene from good

1464
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:32,640
Speaker 1: Fellows or whatever the hell you're into, You'll get if

1465
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 1: you're good, You're there's so many ways to be found,

1466
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 1: So I mean, I mean in your career. And then

1467
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:40,920
Speaker 1: then this article that like it was a couple like

1468
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:44,360
Speaker 1: about a month ago, that obviously it was it was

1469
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 1: a choreograph in terms of like you went out of

1470
01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:49,120
Speaker 1: your way to like make a statement about all the

1471
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:54,519
Speaker 1: stuff with women's empowerment and television and and there's you know,

1472
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 1: there's been so much talk about gender gap and gender

1473
01:19:57,400 --> 01:20:00,800
Speaker 1: pay um and I remember, I I'm just texting you

1474
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 1: and I didn't hadn't seen the article, and it's like,

1475
01:20:03,479 --> 01:20:08,960
Speaker 1: oh shit, Ellen Pompeo was making twenty million dollars a

1476
01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:13,160
Speaker 1: year from the show, So forget about the uncertainty. Like

1477
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:14,920
Speaker 1: here's a question, like you said, oh, what would you

1478
01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:16,880
Speaker 1: do if you got twenty million dollars? What the funk

1479
01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:18,600
Speaker 1: would you do if you get Twitter? How did you want? Like,

1480
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:20,759
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you've earned it. And the show fourteen

1481
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:24,880
Speaker 1: years and and and the show's collectively brought in three

1482
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:29,080
Speaker 1: billion dollars, So just talk to me about that. How

1483
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:31,880
Speaker 1: does that feel in terms of, you know, as a

1484
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:34,040
Speaker 1: as a statement for a woman, as a statement for

1485
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:36,400
Speaker 1: a woman, and television and just as a motherfucker from

1486
01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:38,479
Speaker 1: Boston who was a waitress who didn't get a tip

1487
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:42,599
Speaker 1: from Larry Bird like all of it. Yeah, I mean, listen,

1488
01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:44,560
Speaker 1: I just think that. Um, I mean, I don't know,

1489
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 1: I don't know what to say. I know a lot

1490
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:48,680
Speaker 1: of women have come up to me. I'm very First,

1491
01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 1: I want to say that I'm very grateful for the

1492
01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:52,760
Speaker 1: way the article was perceived. Yeah, because that's what I'm saying,

1493
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:55,759
Speaker 1: choreograph in terms of it wasn't you and you should

1494
01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:57,960
Speaker 1: have a hand in it. But still but still listen,

1495
01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 1: I happened to be a very authentic person, right. I

1496
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 1: pride myself on being authentic and telling the truth and

1497
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:07,800
Speaker 1: speaking my mind because I feel like one of the

1498
01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:12,560
Speaker 1: things that bothers me about society, politics, show business is

1499
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:16,120
Speaker 1: that everybody's trying to instagram. Everybody's trying to present this

1500
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:20,760
Speaker 1: image that's better than right. Everybody's trying to present what

1501
01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:23,120
Speaker 1: image they want you to see of them. And my

1502
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:25,639
Speaker 1: goal is always to try to be as authentic as possible.

1503
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 1: So in my quest for authenticity, Listen, I run my mouth, right,

1504
01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:33,400
Speaker 1: I say how I feel, and we know that can

1505
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:37,040
Speaker 1: go sideways real quick, right, So I am grateful that

1506
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:42,080
Speaker 1: I don't mouth at all, and I'm grateful that the

1507
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:45,559
Speaker 1: response has been as positive as it has been because

1508
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:49,080
Speaker 1: I did do it with the best intentions and try

1509
01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 1: to do it in a in a humble, truthful way

1510
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:54,840
Speaker 1: to inspire other women. But you never know how ship

1511
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:57,160
Speaker 1: is going to come across. So I want to say first,

1512
01:21:57,200 --> 01:22:00,280
Speaker 1: and I'm very grateful to the response that for the

1513
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:03,200
Speaker 1: response that I've had, because everybody has been very inspired

1514
01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 1: by it, and the women coming up to me have

1515
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:08,439
Speaker 1: really been It's been a very moving experience to know

1516
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:12,040
Speaker 1: that you inspire people and that you move people in

1517
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:14,640
Speaker 1: the business and just fans just in general, sure, just

1518
01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:17,480
Speaker 1: other women in business. Now I get into tricky situations

1519
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:21,680
Speaker 1: because you know, it's like I, yeah, I had the

1520
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:24,560
Speaker 1: balls to ask for that money, and I had the

1521
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:27,640
Speaker 1: balls to stand my ground in that way because I

1522
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:31,920
Speaker 1: had those numbers. Right, I had two things. I had

1523
01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:35,080
Speaker 1: the numbers. Ci A, my agency put together a package

1524
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:37,360
Speaker 1: for me and told me what the show has made

1525
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:39,880
Speaker 1: out there in the universe? Is this in your head?

1526
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:42,600
Speaker 1: Like I'm not getting paid enough? No? No, no, not

1527
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:44,560
Speaker 1: at all. So when you know when you're doing this

1528
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 1: this long, right, Shawanda had made the move to Netflix,

1529
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:50,400
Speaker 1: and you know, if she's not going to be at

1530
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:53,599
Speaker 1: the Helm, she Shanna made she made the deal too

1531
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:56,320
Speaker 1: for she's doing her own thing and that she left

1532
01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:58,880
Speaker 1: her deal at ABC and is now going to be

1533
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 1: in business making television shows for Netflix. So with Shaunda

1534
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:06,120
Speaker 1: not at the Helm anymore, well, you know, it's like,

1535
01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 1: do I still want to be involved in this? And

1536
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:11,640
Speaker 1: what is the show going to look like without Shaunda's involvement? Right?

1537
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:15,920
Speaker 1: How far away was she going to step because you know,

1538
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:19,040
Speaker 1: I'm right or die for her, But I don't know

1539
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:21,519
Speaker 1: about someone else coming in, Like what is that? What

1540
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:26,000
Speaker 1: is this going to look like? So we Seana and

1541
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:28,599
Speaker 1: I spoke, and you know, the show makes a lot

1542
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:30,840
Speaker 1: of money for a lot of people, her and me,

1543
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:34,559
Speaker 1: you know, residual wise, everything wise. So you know, I'm

1544
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 1: super realistic. I'm forty eight years old, I have three kids,

1545
01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:42,200
Speaker 1: I work four minutes from my house. It's a great job. Um,

1546
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:45,120
Speaker 1: And and so I said, you know, yeah, we want

1547
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:47,680
Speaker 1: to keep this going? What's it? What do you want?

1548
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:49,559
Speaker 1: Do you want to keep it going? I said to her,

1549
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 1: and she said, yes, I absolutely want to keep it going.

1550
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:54,320
Speaker 1: And do you want to keep it going? Okay, I

1551
01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 1: want to keep it going if you want to keep

1552
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 1: it going. So what do we both need to keep

1553
01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:02,080
Speaker 1: it going? And I was like, listen, I directed this year. Um.

1554
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:04,840
Speaker 1: I liked that. It did take me away from my kids,

1555
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:08,639
Speaker 1: and it's hard work. But I really haven't done anything

1556
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:11,760
Speaker 1: in fourteen years and I'm getting really itchy. And I

1557
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:15,559
Speaker 1: got some you know, cool offers from some other um

1558
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:19,560
Speaker 1: streaming places. UM I got. I had a couple of

1559
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 1: super cool series thrown at me, and I was like, oh,

1560
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:25,960
Speaker 1: so she's stepping away. This is the time where I

1561
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:28,960
Speaker 1: could step away. There's a couple of people looking at

1562
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:31,600
Speaker 1: me and this, you know, it might this might be

1563
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:35,720
Speaker 1: the time I got you. But then I said, Then

1564
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:37,720
Speaker 1: she said to myself, you know what's it gonna take?

1565
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:39,280
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, I need to be empowered.

1566
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:41,639
Speaker 1: I need to feel like an ownership of this show,

1567
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:44,519
Speaker 1: and I need to grow in business ownership in terms

1568
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:47,519
Speaker 1: of financial yes, financial ownership of the show. And you

1569
01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:49,559
Speaker 1: don't want to just be an actress, right right, right,

1570
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:52,040
Speaker 1: which I've had ownership over the show before, but just

1571
01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:55,639
Speaker 1: not as big a piece. Um, And I think that, Yeah,

1572
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:58,160
Speaker 1: the acting thing was kind of I'll grew it, you know,

1573
01:24:58,280 --> 01:25:00,599
Speaker 1: I told you before I do house is that's sort

1574
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:04,120
Speaker 1: of my creative outlet. I love home design and um

1575
01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:08,080
Speaker 1: construction and all of that. But I guess the acting

1576
01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:11,040
Speaker 1: thing was never. I don't know. I feel like I've

1577
01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:13,599
Speaker 1: done so much of it. I guess my acting bulb

1578
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 1: is kind of burnt. So I was like, but if

1579
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:18,040
Speaker 1: I can stay here and I can direct, and I

1580
01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:21,320
Speaker 1: can produce, and I can produce other shows, and ABC

1581
01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 1: is gonna give me a deal and let me make

1582
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:26,400
Speaker 1: create other because really, I've had a master class and

1583
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 1: making television, right it is. Really, I have my master's

1584
01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:32,760
Speaker 1: degree in making one hour drama. I know everything about it.

1585
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:35,720
Speaker 1: So and that's in the business side of it now

1586
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:39,080
Speaker 1: is what's interesting to me. You know, acting is cool.

1587
01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 1: I'm saying I never want to do it again, or

1588
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:42,639
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to do it, But it's a young

1589
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:45,120
Speaker 1: girls game. You gotta get on a plane, you gotta travel,

1590
01:25:45,160 --> 01:25:47,280
Speaker 1: you gotta live in Canada for eight weeks. You gotta

1591
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:50,800
Speaker 1: roll around in the mud, take your clothes off, you know,

1592
01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 1: walk across a glacier. Then you got to put on

1593
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 1: a dress and parade yourself on a red carpet like

1594
01:25:56,400 --> 01:26:00,240
Speaker 1: a pony, and and promote it. It's hard work being

1595
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 1: an actress or actor. It's hard. I think it's harder

1596
01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 1: for actresses than it is for actors. I agree. The conditions,

1597
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:09,120
Speaker 1: what you're meant to do, the ship you have to

1598
01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:12,479
Speaker 1: put up with, and there's an exploration date for the

1599
01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:15,160
Speaker 1: majority of women, it's that's just the way it is,

1600
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 1: especially if you if you started working when you're young. Yeah,

1601
01:26:19,160 --> 01:26:20,840
Speaker 1: you know, like it's just that's the way it is.

1602
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 1: So I like the business side of it now. So

1603
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:24,639
Speaker 1: I was like, this is cool. This is a cool

1604
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:29,320
Speaker 1: place for me to transition, to transition more into the

1605
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:33,559
Speaker 1: business side, and you know, produce the show and help

1606
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:36,120
Speaker 1: produce a spin off and and produce other shows. And

1607
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:39,960
Speaker 1: so I'm more trying to move my business into that now.

1608
01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:42,720
Speaker 1: I got you. And and so what has been the

1609
01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:44,800
Speaker 1: response in just in terms of like when you like

1610
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 1: see this in print. Ellen Pompey was making twenty million

1611
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:51,920
Speaker 1: dollars an episode, and like, what are we buying. We're

1612
01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:55,000
Speaker 1: buying planes? Are we buying like a car? Like like

1613
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:57,280
Speaker 1: if you're around your friends are like, not, bitch, I'm

1614
01:26:57,280 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 1: not paying for lunch like well like like has been

1615
01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:03,040
Speaker 1: the sort of the fallout from everybody knowing, you know,

1616
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:05,960
Speaker 1: you make million dollars, I'm not fucking paying for this

1617
01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:08,760
Speaker 1: for the salad. You can always have to pay for

1618
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:11,400
Speaker 1: the salad. That's the fall out. I always have to

1619
01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:14,439
Speaker 1: pay for the salad. And I'm happy to you know, um,

1620
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:17,000
Speaker 1: listen if you you know, I feel like my whole life,

1621
01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:19,040
Speaker 1: you know, people have been generous with me. This town

1622
01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:21,640
Speaker 1: has been generous with me. People have been generous to me,

1623
01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:25,200
Speaker 1: generous of spirit, the fans to watch the show for

1624
01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:28,400
Speaker 1: this long. You know, the universe has been good to me,

1625
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:31,400
Speaker 1: and I have to be good to the universe back, right,

1626
01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:34,280
Speaker 1: And that's what feels good and that's the right thing

1627
01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:37,799
Speaker 1: to do. So, um, you know, it's a little awkward

1628
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:41,160
Speaker 1: to have your pay out there like that. That's typically

1629
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:44,760
Speaker 1: not something i'd be because I was gonna ask you yes,

1630
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:47,760
Speaker 1: like you know, like that's okay, all right, yeah, but

1631
01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:49,640
Speaker 1: but you know that's what I'm saying, Like it just

1632
01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:52,840
Speaker 1: in terms of people knowing like like what my business

1633
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:55,040
Speaker 1: manager will tell me it's twenties only ten ellen, So

1634
01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:58,599
Speaker 1: slow down and fly in private will get your broke

1635
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:02,559
Speaker 1: real quick. Yes, that's the quickest way you got. That's

1636
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:04,759
Speaker 1: not the way to play. Do you hear me dj Khalid?

1637
01:28:05,479 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 1: You hear me Kalid? Look, I'm sure Kalid's not paying

1638
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:12,760
Speaker 1: for all those those jet lucks, but that that is

1639
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:15,400
Speaker 1: that what gets people. Yeah, that'll drain your bank account

1640
01:28:15,439 --> 01:28:19,799
Speaker 1: real quick. Um so so so you that's expensive luxury

1641
01:28:19,880 --> 01:28:21,840
Speaker 1: that you get very used to. Yeah, you gotta be

1642
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:25,240
Speaker 1: really really, it's gotta be some real guarantee. Yeah. So

1643
01:28:25,479 --> 01:28:29,320
Speaker 1: the buying and selling houses, we were talking about this earlier.

1644
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:32,040
Speaker 1: This is something you love to do and how does

1645
01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:35,000
Speaker 1: that work? You'll see like like why do you get

1646
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:36,680
Speaker 1: involved with how do you even have time to get

1647
01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:39,120
Speaker 1: involved with that? And like take me through like your

1648
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:43,760
Speaker 1: latest house thing, like what happens you see a ship hole? Yeah,

1649
01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:46,479
Speaker 1: you'll see there's always it's always a ship hole. It's always.

1650
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:48,080
Speaker 1: I don't think you could use the word ship hole

1651
01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 1: now because there's such a stigma on our president just ship.

1652
01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:53,240
Speaker 1: But we're saying from a house, it's a ship hole.

1653
01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:54,640
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. You gotta you gotta be

1654
01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:57,280
Speaker 1: careful everything you say. But we're talking about a rundown,

1655
01:28:57,520 --> 01:28:59,479
Speaker 1: like you're talking about a place that's it's you like

1656
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:02,360
Speaker 1: to read build them, yes, and you see it and

1657
01:29:02,439 --> 01:29:04,200
Speaker 1: like you do this all on your own, or you

1658
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:05,880
Speaker 1: do with your husband you have a partner, like I

1659
01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:08,040
Speaker 1: do it with my husband, who's my partner and everything

1660
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:11,120
Speaker 1: in life. But he's into it also, he's into it also. Yeah,

1661
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:12,880
Speaker 1: he has a great eye. He has a great eye

1662
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:16,160
Speaker 1: for properties. And one of his best friends is a realtor.

1663
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:19,599
Speaker 1: So those two scope in the cool places and then

1664
01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:21,160
Speaker 1: they'll call me up and they'll say, you have to

1665
01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:25,360
Speaker 1: see this place. But I walk in onto a property

1666
01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:27,719
Speaker 1: and I either feel a vibe or I don't right away.

1667
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:30,040
Speaker 1: It's a vibration. I can't explain it. I got you.

1668
01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:33,120
Speaker 1: And when you when you refurbish them and you you

1669
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:35,320
Speaker 1: fix them up and all that stuff. Do you get

1670
01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:39,600
Speaker 1: How hands on is that? And is that like that

1671
01:29:39,720 --> 01:29:43,640
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like a stress free situation. That seems like

1672
01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:46,960
Speaker 1: it's very stressful. It's very stressful. But you know it's

1673
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:53,719
Speaker 1: exactly like producing. Its exactly like a contractor to hire people.

1674
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:56,280
Speaker 1: But the less you're involved, the more money you're going

1675
01:29:56,320 --> 01:29:58,040
Speaker 1: to spend, the more money they can take from you.

1676
01:29:58,439 --> 01:30:04,320
Speaker 1: Because contractors and ject managers, you know, they're all professional extortionists.

1677
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:07,160
Speaker 1: They know ship that you don't know. Well, how do

1678
01:30:07,240 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 1: you know you don't need seventy hundred feet of copper piping?

1679
01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:15,519
Speaker 1: Maybe you really only need fifty thousand feet of copper piping?

1680
01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:18,040
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? They can hustle and extort

1681
01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:21,680
Speaker 1: you for money so easy, specially you don't really know

1682
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:23,040
Speaker 1: what's going on. It's like when you take your car

1683
01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:26,240
Speaker 1: a mechanic you don't really know. How much do you

1684
01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:28,280
Speaker 1: know about it? Now? Like how confident are you about

1685
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:31,080
Speaker 1: I don't know a lot about building, Like I don't

1686
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:33,599
Speaker 1: know I know a lot about interior design. I don't

1687
01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:35,840
Speaker 1: know a lot about building. And you could get really

1688
01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:39,160
Speaker 1: jammed up in construction. Do you enjoy doing? So? You

1689
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:42,200
Speaker 1: must enjoy doing I do you know? I'm you know

1690
01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:46,800
Speaker 1: what I like? I realized this. I like solving problems.

1691
01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:49,800
Speaker 1: I always, you know, people always ask me advice, And

1692
01:30:50,240 --> 01:30:53,200
Speaker 1: I said, you always want to go in with a solution.

1693
01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:57,120
Speaker 1: Don't ever go into a supervisor, your manager, your boss.

1694
01:30:57,640 --> 01:30:59,560
Speaker 1: I just did this thing for in Style magazine. This

1695
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:01,880
Speaker 1: Laura around, who I love. She's taken the magazine in

1696
01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:05,920
Speaker 1: such a positive female empowerment direction. And she said, you

1697
01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:08,760
Speaker 1: know what's your advice? And I said, always go in

1698
01:31:08,920 --> 01:31:11,840
Speaker 1: with a solution. Don't ever be the problem. Even if

1699
01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:14,719
Speaker 1: there is a problem, don't go in with the problem.

1700
01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:17,839
Speaker 1: Go in with the solution. No such thing as problems,

1701
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:21,240
Speaker 1: only solutions. That's a Chris Irey quote. Okay, all right,

1702
01:31:21,320 --> 01:31:24,760
Speaker 1: and you you said you so you have a production deal? Now, yes,

1703
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:29,040
Speaker 1: well I have had one, but yeah, I have had

1704
01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:30,880
Speaker 1: one for a few years. Is this something you've been

1705
01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:33,000
Speaker 1: working on a lot or you focusing on it more

1706
01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:35,320
Speaker 1: now now I've been working on a lot. Listen. It's

1707
01:31:35,439 --> 01:31:38,040
Speaker 1: it's the hardest thing. I mean, you think other careers

1708
01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:40,760
Speaker 1: are hard, I mean producing is absolutely the hardest thing

1709
01:31:40,840 --> 01:31:44,600
Speaker 1: I've ever done, man, because there's so many hurdles to

1710
01:31:44,680 --> 01:31:47,720
Speaker 1: get over to you. So so you have to find

1711
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:53,160
Speaker 1: I have to find a book. I have to find

1712
01:31:53,200 --> 01:31:55,760
Speaker 1: a book that's hot. So the book that's hot this

1713
01:31:55,920 --> 01:31:59,240
Speaker 1: four movie studios want that book. So I have to

1714
01:31:59,320 --> 01:32:01,360
Speaker 1: now compete with them to get that book. How do

1715
01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:03,840
Speaker 1: I compete with them? I have to have ABC bid

1716
01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:06,519
Speaker 1: for that book for me. If they don't bid as

1717
01:32:06,600 --> 01:32:09,439
Speaker 1: high as Sony, if Sony offers more money, that's gone.

1718
01:32:09,520 --> 01:32:12,320
Speaker 1: That's it. Let's say ABC does bid for the book,

1719
01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:14,439
Speaker 1: So you get the book. And then what's the next time.

1720
01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:16,320
Speaker 1: You have to find a writer. And if that's a

1721
01:32:16,439 --> 01:32:19,519
Speaker 1: fucking that's like getting married. Yes, that's rolling of the

1722
01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:21,920
Speaker 1: dice getting married. Yes, you have to find one who

1723
01:32:22,000 --> 01:32:25,360
Speaker 1: likes the book, who has a good take on the book. Then,

1724
01:32:25,439 --> 01:32:28,360
Speaker 1: even if you love that writer and that writer's dope,

1725
01:32:29,240 --> 01:32:32,479
Speaker 1: the studio has to like that writer. So all those

1726
01:32:32,560 --> 01:32:35,200
Speaker 1: things have to come together, right. And then if the

1727
01:32:35,240 --> 01:32:39,160
Speaker 1: studio likes the writer, he writes the script. They coached

1728
01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:41,639
Speaker 1: him along the whole time, hopefully, And when you write

1729
01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:44,759
Speaker 1: the script, you, Ellen Pompeo and the student have no power.

1730
01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:48,080
Speaker 1: This fucking guy or this girl. Hopefully don't fuck it up.

1731
01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:52,600
Speaker 1: No wait, no, no, he writes a script, right, this

1732
01:32:52,760 --> 01:32:57,080
Speaker 1: is Network TV. Now, he writes a script. The studio

1733
01:32:57,160 --> 01:32:59,479
Speaker 1: looks at it and says, oh, could you change this this?

1734
01:32:59,680 --> 01:33:02,680
Speaker 1: This is this? He goes, okay, I'll change this, this,

1735
01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:05,200
Speaker 1: this and this. Okay, he changes this this this is

1736
01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:08,240
Speaker 1: now can you go back? Oh, we love those changes. Now,

1737
01:33:08,360 --> 01:33:10,920
Speaker 1: can you change this, this, this, and this because we

1738
01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:14,639
Speaker 1: liked it from the first one, but you change too much? Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, okay,

1739
01:33:14,720 --> 01:33:17,559
Speaker 1: change change change change change right, he changed all that, Okay, okay,

1740
01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:20,000
Speaker 1: now we love it. Right. It goes that. That happens

1741
01:33:20,040 --> 01:33:22,040
Speaker 1: like four times back and forth right where they make

1742
01:33:22,120 --> 01:33:25,519
Speaker 1: changes to his script. They make they request changes from him,

1743
01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:28,320
Speaker 1: then they send the script to the network. Then the

1744
01:33:28,439 --> 01:33:32,360
Speaker 1: network once their change is made, so then they say, oh,

1745
01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:35,599
Speaker 1: we love this is amazing, it's so good, but could

1746
01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:38,160
Speaker 1: you change this, this, this, and this? He says, sure,

1747
01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:42,160
Speaker 1: even though that's what the studio wanted changed, We're gonna

1748
01:33:42,240 --> 01:33:44,320
Speaker 1: change it now. Back is, the network likes the other way.

1749
01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:48,200
Speaker 1: Change change change, change, change, And then they all these changes.

1750
01:33:48,439 --> 01:33:51,920
Speaker 1: The script looks like something completely different then what he

1751
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:55,559
Speaker 1: originally wrote. It's now the studio and the network's version

1752
01:33:55,800 --> 01:33:58,839
Speaker 1: of what they like. Right, So, okay, you figured no problem.

1753
01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:01,599
Speaker 1: The script is exact actually what they wanted. So now

1754
01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:03,800
Speaker 1: when it comes time for them to make their decisions

1755
01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:07,320
Speaker 1: and tell you what pilots they're actually going to shoot

1756
01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:10,720
Speaker 1: right from this, what scripts they're gonna pick that make

1757
01:34:10,800 --> 01:34:13,880
Speaker 1: the cut to shoot a pilot up. We don't like

1758
01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:16,479
Speaker 1: this one, and you might not even get out of

1759
01:34:16,479 --> 01:34:18,280
Speaker 1: the gate. What do you mean you don't like it?

1760
01:34:18,439 --> 01:34:21,880
Speaker 1: That's essentially your script. You changed everything about it that

1761
01:34:22,040 --> 01:34:24,120
Speaker 1: he did. It used to be a book. That is

1762
01:34:24,240 --> 01:34:27,920
Speaker 1: your script. You made all those changes, you you wrote

1763
01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:32,040
Speaker 1: all those scenes. Now you don't like it, That's what happens.

1764
01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:34,880
Speaker 1: How do you deal with that? Are you at the

1765
01:34:34,920 --> 01:34:37,280
Speaker 1: point where you'll throw your weight around? And is your

1766
01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:40,280
Speaker 1: weight weighty enough? And any is there anybody? I don't

1767
01:34:40,280 --> 01:34:42,920
Speaker 1: have any shows on the air do I? I have

1768
01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:45,880
Speaker 1: no weight? I have no weight, and you really okay?

1769
01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:48,760
Speaker 1: And you really have until you get one on the

1770
01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:51,920
Speaker 1: air that's successful. I think it's like acting. I think

1771
01:34:51,960 --> 01:34:53,640
Speaker 1: the first one is everything, you know what I mean?

1772
01:34:53,680 --> 01:34:56,160
Speaker 1: I think I get once one show on the air.

1773
01:34:56,600 --> 01:34:59,160
Speaker 1: I think the other ones will once I prove myself,

1774
01:35:00,120 --> 01:35:02,679
Speaker 1: then it'll be easier, which, by the way, I'm cool

1775
01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:05,920
Speaker 1: to do. I'm cool to prove myself. But I will

1776
01:35:06,040 --> 01:35:09,639
Speaker 1: sit here and say that I do think it's harder

1777
01:35:11,320 --> 01:35:15,519
Speaker 1: for women. You don't see can you name can you?

1778
01:35:15,880 --> 01:35:20,080
Speaker 1: Can you name any? And I don't want to get

1779
01:35:20,120 --> 01:35:22,080
Speaker 1: to sort of inside the business. I don't know, you know,

1780
01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:28,760
Speaker 1: who who your your fans are. But can you, Michael Rappaport,

1781
01:35:28,840 --> 01:35:32,240
Speaker 1: an actor in this town, knowing what you know, can

1782
01:35:32,280 --> 01:35:37,880
Speaker 1: you name any non writing female executive producers. It's not many.

1783
01:35:38,240 --> 01:35:40,599
Speaker 1: I mean it's is It's Shunda rhymes right, because she's

1784
01:35:40,640 --> 01:35:47,839
Speaker 1: a writer. Like Mark Gordon is my boss. Mark Gordon's

1785
01:35:47,880 --> 01:35:52,280
Speaker 1: responsible for UM, Mark wins, responsible for Gray's Anatomy, C

1786
01:35:52,600 --> 01:35:55,920
Speaker 1: s I Quantico. Mark Gordon's got fifteen shows on the air.

1787
01:35:56,160 --> 01:35:58,160
Speaker 1: He doesn't write a lick. I got you. I understand

1788
01:35:58,360 --> 01:36:01,559
Speaker 1: justin EP do you think that women do you think

1789
01:36:01,640 --> 01:36:04,960
Speaker 1: it's where we are in terms of like historically women

1790
01:36:05,120 --> 01:36:07,280
Speaker 1: haven't caught up to the dick Wolves and the marks

1791
01:36:07,800 --> 01:36:10,559
Speaker 1: and or do you think there's a roadblock against women

1792
01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:12,720
Speaker 1: for that? And then my other question about this is

1793
01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:17,320
Speaker 1: this because this is what I'm all for. Uh, all

1794
01:36:17,360 --> 01:36:19,679
Speaker 1: I know is this business. I don't know any other business.

1795
01:36:19,920 --> 01:36:23,400
Speaker 1: This is all I know. And I know one thing.

1796
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:26,720
Speaker 1: If you and me did a show right now, Let's

1797
01:36:26,720 --> 01:36:29,080
Speaker 1: say you left Gray's Anatomy, right and they did you

1798
01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:31,240
Speaker 1: know we did you know? The Ellen and Michael show.

1799
01:36:31,280 --> 01:36:35,679
Speaker 1: It's called Ellen and Michael. You being you just coming

1800
01:36:35,720 --> 01:36:39,000
Speaker 1: off a fourteen years kicking ass on the show and

1801
01:36:39,120 --> 01:36:43,240
Speaker 1: me being me, most likely you would get paid more

1802
01:36:43,360 --> 01:36:46,960
Speaker 1: than me in the pilot because of your value and mean.

1803
01:36:47,080 --> 01:36:49,560
Speaker 1: But but one thing that I think has been misconstruted

1804
01:36:49,600 --> 01:36:52,720
Speaker 1: in this in women in Hollywood and the gender gap

1805
01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:55,720
Speaker 1: is that at the end of the day, if you

1806
01:36:55,800 --> 01:36:59,599
Speaker 1: ain't it's on value. Like Denzel is going to get

1807
01:36:59,720 --> 01:37:05,080
Speaker 1: more than Viola Davis because he's Denzel. Leonardo DiCaprio is

1808
01:37:05,120 --> 01:37:08,040
Speaker 1: going to get more than whoever it is. Jennifer Lawrence

1809
01:37:08,160 --> 01:37:10,600
Speaker 1: is going to get more than me also, right, But

1810
01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:14,479
Speaker 1: back to Denzel and Viola, you know, to touch on

1811
01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:19,200
Speaker 1: that briefly, I don't think that yes, he's gonna get

1812
01:37:19,240 --> 01:37:23,040
Speaker 1: paid more, but Viola won't get the same opportunities or

1813
01:37:23,240 --> 01:37:25,760
Speaker 1: hopefully now she is getting the same opportunities because she's

1814
01:37:25,760 --> 01:37:28,240
Speaker 1: so good on how to get away. She as is

1815
01:37:28,400 --> 01:37:31,960
Speaker 1: his equal in talents, his equal in talent. But it

1816
01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:33,639
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with talent. No, it has nothing

1817
01:37:33,680 --> 01:37:36,360
Speaker 1: to do with talent. But it's it's the studio. It's

1818
01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:40,000
Speaker 1: the studio, the people who hire, the studio's perception of

1819
01:37:40,160 --> 01:37:44,439
Speaker 1: what's perceived to be valuable. Right. She said herself that

1820
01:37:44,560 --> 01:37:48,639
Speaker 1: she was never seen as a sexual character. Right, That's

1821
01:37:48,640 --> 01:37:50,759
Speaker 1: what she loved about How to Get Away with Murderers

1822
01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:54,080
Speaker 1: that for the first time, a dark skinned woman was

1823
01:37:54,240 --> 01:37:58,680
Speaker 1: seen as a sexual creature. So I agree with you.

1824
01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:02,639
Speaker 1: It is very hard to quantify what people The pay

1825
01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:06,960
Speaker 1: equity thing is a challenging it's a conundrum, right, because

1826
01:38:07,520 --> 01:38:12,400
Speaker 1: it is hard to quantify the value, the value of

1827
01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:16,880
Speaker 1: people because yes, people do have a bigger audience, People

1828
01:38:16,960 --> 01:38:20,439
Speaker 1: have a bigger following, you know, and that's the value

1829
01:38:20,520 --> 01:38:23,680
Speaker 1: of it. Yes, that's the value. It is challenging to

1830
01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:27,479
Speaker 1: quantify and say some people are should be paid the same,

1831
01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:31,360
Speaker 1: especially with actors because we have fan bases, right, you know,

1832
01:38:31,840 --> 01:38:34,200
Speaker 1: and the sumar stars or someone like if I'm like,

1833
01:38:34,479 --> 01:38:36,439
Speaker 1: let's say me and Jennifer Lawrence are doing a movie

1834
01:38:36,640 --> 01:38:39,160
Speaker 1: and I'm co starring with her, and let's let's say

1835
01:38:39,160 --> 01:38:41,639
Speaker 1: it's like she's working sixty days, I'm working sixty days.

1836
01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:45,160
Speaker 1: If I go, well, she's sucking. But she's Jennifer Lawrence.

1837
01:38:45,240 --> 01:38:49,040
Speaker 1: She's equivalent to Leonardo as far as women. She's that girl, yes,

1838
01:38:49,280 --> 01:38:53,760
Speaker 1: but me and she's another one. I'd watch her. She's

1839
01:38:54,320 --> 01:38:58,519
Speaker 1: always I think they're so similar. Like to me, she's

1840
01:38:58,560 --> 01:39:01,960
Speaker 1: like a female leonarder to Caprio. She's got the the looks,

1841
01:39:02,360 --> 01:39:05,040
Speaker 1: she's got the charisma, she's got the net like, she's

1842
01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:08,400
Speaker 1: got an accessibility, but she's also got this beauty like

1843
01:39:08,520 --> 01:39:12,280
Speaker 1: I always correlate them in terms of but but sorry,

1844
01:39:12,400 --> 01:39:15,200
Speaker 1: go ahead, that's okay. But in the instance of American Hustle,

1845
01:39:15,720 --> 01:39:19,960
Speaker 1: you know that movie, that was not fair because Jennifer

1846
01:39:20,040 --> 01:39:24,120
Speaker 1: Lawrence was coming off, wasn't she coming off the first

1847
01:39:24,240 --> 01:39:27,880
Speaker 1: Hunger Games at that time, so she should have been

1848
01:39:28,479 --> 01:39:32,080
Speaker 1: completely on par with those men. And the flip side

1849
01:39:32,120 --> 01:39:36,759
Speaker 1: to it is that if they undervalue a female actress,

1850
01:39:36,840 --> 01:39:40,360
Speaker 1: if they say to me, you know, listen, you get

1851
01:39:40,400 --> 01:39:43,720
Speaker 1: to be an American Hustle with these guys, right, and

1852
01:39:45,640 --> 01:39:49,120
Speaker 1: we can only pay you this much money. If you say, well, listen,

1853
01:39:49,280 --> 01:39:52,280
Speaker 1: if they're getting twenty million and I'm only getting one million,

1854
01:39:52,680 --> 01:39:56,360
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do it, well, okay, we'll get out, bitch,

1855
01:39:56,560 --> 01:40:00,439
Speaker 1: and we'll just have another girl. Right. So it's gonna

1856
01:40:00,479 --> 01:40:03,520
Speaker 1: be a hard thing to have unless you have transparency,

1857
01:40:03,840 --> 01:40:07,200
Speaker 1: which is going to cause another problem because then we

1858
01:40:07,320 --> 01:40:12,400
Speaker 1: go back to transparency. Yeah, of what you pay, what

1859
01:40:12,560 --> 01:40:15,120
Speaker 1: you get, Yeah, it's gonna be well, how do you

1860
01:40:15,479 --> 01:40:18,719
Speaker 1: explain that someone is worth more money than the other person.

1861
01:40:19,120 --> 01:40:21,799
Speaker 1: But as long as as long as people are willing

1862
01:40:22,040 --> 01:40:24,880
Speaker 1: to step up and do the role for less money,

1863
01:40:25,720 --> 01:40:30,519
Speaker 1: the studios like, oh, well, unless every actress in town knows,

1864
01:40:31,360 --> 01:40:33,519
Speaker 1: they only offered me a million, and they're offering the

1865
01:40:33,600 --> 01:40:36,400
Speaker 1: guys twenty million, so all of us should say no.

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01:40:37,160 --> 01:40:41,679
Speaker 1: So in that respect, transparency would work. But if they say,

1867
01:40:42,200 --> 01:40:44,920
Speaker 1: you know, Leo's coming off The Revenant, we're gonna give

1868
01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:47,840
Speaker 1: him twenty million, can't argue that. You can't argue with that.

1869
01:40:47,960 --> 01:40:52,040
Speaker 1: It's it's going to be a challenging, um a challenging thing.

1870
01:40:53,280 --> 01:40:55,040
Speaker 1: The only thing that I was on about just that

1871
01:40:55,160 --> 01:40:58,280
Speaker 1: I felt like is getting misconstrued in Hollywood because I

1872
01:40:58,320 --> 01:41:00,800
Speaker 1: can't talk about gender gaps and anything else because I

1873
01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:02,560
Speaker 1: don't fucking know and I barely know it. In my

1874
01:41:02,680 --> 01:41:06,200
Speaker 1: fun business is like John Ta Turtle, he's my favorite actor,

1875
01:41:06,560 --> 01:41:09,080
Speaker 1: he's my guy. He's not getting the same amount of

1876
01:41:09,120 --> 01:41:12,400
Speaker 1: money as fucking Leonardo DiCaprio, Christian Bail or any those

1877
01:41:12,439 --> 01:41:15,760
Speaker 1: guys are excellent, These fluff pretty boy actors, Like if

1878
01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:18,679
Speaker 1: John Ta Turtle doesn't movie with some fluff pretty bay actor,

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01:41:18,920 --> 01:41:20,680
Speaker 1: the fluff pretty Bay actor is gonna get more than

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01:41:20,760 --> 01:41:22,639
Speaker 1: John Ta Turtle and even like, well he's the greatest

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01:41:22,640 --> 01:41:24,880
Speaker 1: actor in the world. The fuff pretty boy is gonna

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01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:28,680
Speaker 1: get the people internationally to come into the movie. And

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01:41:28,760 --> 01:41:31,400
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if it's John Ta Turtle, a woman

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01:41:32,000 --> 01:41:33,479
Speaker 1: or a guy. And I just think that's one of

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01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:35,920
Speaker 1: the things that's you know, like in this Twitter space

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01:41:36,000 --> 01:41:37,960
Speaker 1: that we live in, it's sort of like there's this

1887
01:41:38,120 --> 01:41:42,960
Speaker 1: conspiracy and I'm like, specifically in Hollywood values first, and

1888
01:41:43,080 --> 01:41:44,960
Speaker 1: then in terms of what you were saying, like the

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01:41:45,040 --> 01:41:47,680
Speaker 1: Jennifer Lawrence and the um what was the name of

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01:41:47,720 --> 01:41:50,759
Speaker 1: the movie we just talked about with games or American

1891
01:41:50,840 --> 01:41:53,880
Speaker 1: Hustle right then you know it's different. So I mean,

1892
01:41:53,960 --> 01:41:57,000
Speaker 1: and you're a rare um not just uh for for

1893
01:41:57,080 --> 01:41:59,479
Speaker 1: an actor, prefer an actress to where you're like, yo,

1894
01:41:59,720 --> 01:42:02,880
Speaker 1: I have value. You've earned your value for fourteen years

1895
01:42:03,160 --> 01:42:06,080
Speaker 1: on a show. But I also have I also have luck,

1896
01:42:06,479 --> 01:42:08,680
Speaker 1: you know. I I some people say, you know, I'm

1897
01:42:08,720 --> 01:42:13,280
Speaker 1: not lucky, I'm talented. Well yeah, yeah, I deserve all

1898
01:42:13,320 --> 01:42:16,160
Speaker 1: those things because I'm talented and because I work hard.

1899
01:42:16,640 --> 01:42:19,080
Speaker 1: But I think I would be an idiot to sit

1900
01:42:19,160 --> 01:42:21,880
Speaker 1: here and say I am not lucky. I am lucky.

1901
01:42:21,960 --> 01:42:24,479
Speaker 1: Of course, I'm lucky that I wasn't born in South Sudan.

1902
01:42:24,720 --> 01:42:26,760
Speaker 1: You're lucky that the Swat show didn't get picked up

1903
01:42:26,760 --> 01:42:29,439
Speaker 1: when you're playing the secret Yeah, exactly, I'm lucky the

1904
01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:32,320
Speaker 1: Secret Service show didn't get picked up. Um, I'm lucky

1905
01:42:32,520 --> 01:42:35,519
Speaker 1: that I had the opportunity. You know, there could be

1906
01:42:36,080 --> 01:42:39,559
Speaker 1: back when Grays Listen, back when Grays was was being cast,

1907
01:42:39,680 --> 01:42:41,560
Speaker 1: or they were making these TV shows, they were not

1908
01:42:41,880 --> 01:42:47,120
Speaker 1: putting women of color in the leading role of TV pilots.

1909
01:42:47,240 --> 01:42:50,840
Speaker 1: Black girls didn't even have a chance, didn't even get

1910
01:42:50,920 --> 01:42:54,280
Speaker 1: the opportunity to be number one on a call sheet

1911
01:42:54,520 --> 01:42:58,160
Speaker 1: on a primetime network drama. So for that, I'm lucky. Yeah,

1912
01:42:58,760 --> 01:43:01,800
Speaker 1: because just to be able to have the opportunities that

1913
01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:05,280
Speaker 1: I've had, Um, I feel like I'm super lucky. So

1914
01:43:05,720 --> 01:43:08,200
Speaker 1: I think luck, you know, does play into it. I

1915
01:43:08,280 --> 01:43:10,360
Speaker 1: know people want to say, oh, luck is bullshit. I

1916
01:43:10,439 --> 01:43:13,639
Speaker 1: worked my ass off, Yeah you do, but luck play

1917
01:43:13,800 --> 01:43:16,800
Speaker 1: some part in it. I agree. Luck and timing. Yeah,

1918
01:43:17,120 --> 01:43:20,000
Speaker 1: all right, what can I say, Allen? This is everything

1919
01:43:20,080 --> 01:43:24,840
Speaker 1: that I imagine really fuck yeah, And I feel like

1920
01:43:25,160 --> 01:43:27,040
Speaker 1: this is what I'm gonna brag about this, I feel

1921
01:43:27,080 --> 01:43:29,760
Speaker 1: like because of the form of this and I've seen

1922
01:43:29,800 --> 01:43:31,439
Speaker 1: you and so I mean you've done every talk show

1923
01:43:31,720 --> 01:43:34,400
Speaker 1: two or three or four times. Um. But because there's

1924
01:43:34,439 --> 01:43:37,880
Speaker 1: parameters on it, I feel like the essence of Ellen

1925
01:43:37,920 --> 01:43:41,280
Speaker 1: Pumpey always come out on the Iron wrap por Stereo pocket.

1926
01:43:41,439 --> 01:43:45,280
Speaker 1: I want to say, Larry Bird, you fucked up, you

1927
01:43:45,439 --> 01:43:48,160
Speaker 1: fucked up. Okay, Now you might see Ellen Pumpeio and

1928
01:43:48,240 --> 01:43:50,679
Speaker 1: you might say, I'm a big fan of Graze anatomy

1929
01:43:50,840 --> 01:43:52,640
Speaker 1: and who knows how it's gonna We don't know how

1930
01:43:52,680 --> 01:43:54,400
Speaker 1: it's gonna go. I'm not saying that she's not gonna

1931
01:43:54,520 --> 01:43:56,599
Speaker 1: be nice. I'm just saying that who knows how it's

1932
01:43:56,640 --> 01:44:02,479
Speaker 1: gonna go? Correct, Larry fucking Who, thank you for coming

1933
01:44:02,560 --> 01:44:04,599
Speaker 1: and I'm doing the show. This was so fun, Michael,

1934
01:44:04,640 --> 01:44:12,200
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Thank you. All Right, I told

1935
01:44:12,280 --> 01:44:17,160
Speaker 1: you came, we saw conquered. I want to thank Ellen

1936
01:44:17,200 --> 01:44:21,240
Speaker 1: for joining me on the Iron Wrappers Stereo podcast. Uh,

1937
01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:24,839
Speaker 1: what can I si? I mean, what can I say? Alright,

1938
01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:26,760
Speaker 1: I got a couple of sick funds and we'll get

1939
01:44:26,760 --> 01:44:30,599
Speaker 1: out of here. This award is earned, not giving. It's

1940
01:44:30,640 --> 01:44:34,400
Speaker 1: called the sick fucking Week. This guy is really sick.

1941
01:44:34,960 --> 01:44:37,920
Speaker 1: Lock him up, How could you do it? Don't let

1942
01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:42,200
Speaker 1: him out? Damn the door you want you fuck the door?

1943
01:44:42,280 --> 01:44:45,160
Speaker 1: Why would you fuck the dog? Why would you fuck

1944
01:44:45,240 --> 01:44:49,720
Speaker 1: your girlfriend's dog? Sick fuck the sick funck of the week.

1945
01:44:50,160 --> 01:44:57,439
Speaker 1: It's earned and not giving. You did what? No, no, no,

1946
01:45:01,520 --> 01:45:07,000
Speaker 1: sick funk of the week. Another poacher was out there

1947
01:45:07,080 --> 01:45:13,720
Speaker 1: in South Africa trying to kill harmless animals that are

1948
01:45:13,800 --> 01:45:18,439
Speaker 1: always that are always needed. This planet is suffering so much,

1949
01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:21,200
Speaker 1: so many of these animals are extinct. But you want

1950
01:45:21,200 --> 01:45:24,200
Speaker 1: to fly to South Africa and kill them so you

1951
01:45:24,280 --> 01:45:27,840
Speaker 1: could hang them on your wall. Well, the jokes on you, jack.

1952
01:45:30,840 --> 01:45:34,760
Speaker 1: A poacher in South African was eaten by a pack

1953
01:45:34,840 --> 01:45:39,719
Speaker 1: of lions. The only thing left was the guy's fucking head. Good.

1954
01:45:39,840 --> 01:45:42,120
Speaker 1: I wish I was there to fucking film that put

1955
01:45:42,200 --> 01:45:45,880
Speaker 1: his head on our mantle. The only thing left was

1956
01:45:45,960 --> 01:45:50,400
Speaker 1: his head. Leave the lions, leave the monkeys, leave all

1957
01:45:50,479 --> 01:45:55,280
Speaker 1: these animals, the giraffes, the zebras, leave them alone. Yeah, please,

1958
01:45:56,400 --> 01:46:00,880
Speaker 1: they're scared of human beings there extinct you get, you

1959
01:46:00,960 --> 01:46:05,200
Speaker 1: get satisfaction a going to a place where you know

1960
01:46:05,360 --> 01:46:08,719
Speaker 1: these animals can't run away. The planet needs these animals.

1961
01:46:08,760 --> 01:46:10,320
Speaker 1: You want to go to kill him to put them

1962
01:46:10,360 --> 01:46:13,639
Speaker 1: on your wall, and then when you get eaten all

1963
01:46:13,720 --> 01:46:18,160
Speaker 1: the way to the they're just a fucking head. Good good,

1964
01:46:18,479 --> 01:46:21,360
Speaker 1: you're the sick fuck. You're the sick fuck. The poachers

1965
01:46:21,479 --> 01:46:25,439
Speaker 1: are the sick fuck of the week. Good for the lines.

1966
01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:28,680
Speaker 1: I would have ate his ass too. There is a

1967
01:46:28,800 --> 01:46:32,559
Speaker 1: man in the bronx in the Boogey down bronx, your

1968
01:46:32,640 --> 01:46:35,160
Speaker 1: neck of the woods. Two women, one of the One

1969
01:46:35,160 --> 01:46:40,120
Speaker 1: of the women's name is Serenity. Uh. One of them,

1970
01:46:40,479 --> 01:46:42,479
Speaker 1: his name is Serenity. The other one's name is Tiffany.

1971
01:46:42,680 --> 01:46:48,240
Speaker 1: They were arrested the other day, charged with beating and

1972
01:46:48,479 --> 01:46:53,920
Speaker 1: robbing a pregnant woman. Two women beat and robbed another

1973
01:46:54,040 --> 01:46:57,320
Speaker 1: pregnant woman. Like, how do you get to a point

1974
01:46:57,840 --> 01:47:02,120
Speaker 1: as a woman where you're so desensitized that that that

1975
01:47:02,240 --> 01:47:04,720
Speaker 1: you can do that to another woman? A woman who

1976
01:47:04,800 --> 01:47:09,360
Speaker 1: was seven months pregnant. She survived this assault, as did

1977
01:47:09,400 --> 01:47:14,519
Speaker 1: her unborn daughter. These are animals kicking the lady and

1978
01:47:15,000 --> 01:47:17,240
Speaker 1: beating it for for a four These people are sick.

1979
01:47:17,280 --> 01:47:19,599
Speaker 1: I mean one of these people's name is Serenity. Now,

1980
01:47:19,840 --> 01:47:22,639
Speaker 1: if there was a wonderbread bag and olive oil treatment

1981
01:47:22,720 --> 01:47:27,360
Speaker 1: for you, Serenity and Tiffany nurse in a female prison.

1982
01:47:27,439 --> 01:47:29,240
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, but I hopefully you

1983
01:47:29,400 --> 01:47:33,400
Speaker 1: get it. Lock them up, throw away to keep forever. Yeah,

1984
01:47:33,520 --> 01:47:37,720
Speaker 1: the law is too sold. The law. If you if

1985
01:47:37,760 --> 01:47:40,080
Speaker 1: you knew you were gonna get stoned to death for

1986
01:47:40,200 --> 01:47:43,080
Speaker 1: doing shit you you wouldn't do certain things. The laws

1987
01:47:43,120 --> 01:47:45,360
Speaker 1: too soft out here, man. They need to ramp the

1988
01:47:45,439 --> 01:47:52,840
Speaker 1: law up. Punishment. Uh. A Little Caesar's restaurant, damn Near

1989
01:47:52,960 --> 01:47:58,000
Speaker 1: caused a couple to have a big seizure after the

1990
01:47:58,160 --> 01:48:03,120
Speaker 1: couple turned their pizza pie over and found mouse droppings

1991
01:48:03,280 --> 01:48:10,360
Speaker 1: baked into the crust. Jesus, Little Caesars gave them a

1992
01:48:10,439 --> 01:48:16,680
Speaker 1: big seizure after seeing that. Finally, and I hate to

1993
01:48:16,880 --> 01:48:20,800
Speaker 1: do this. I hate to do this, but the sick

1994
01:48:20,880 --> 01:48:23,400
Speaker 1: Funk of the Week award is earned, not given. It

1995
01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:28,360
Speaker 1: has earned, not given. Sasha Baron Cohen, you know, you

1996
01:48:28,439 --> 01:48:31,439
Speaker 1: know the actor who played Bruno and the actor who

1997
01:48:31,479 --> 01:48:36,400
Speaker 1: played Borat He's filming a new, a new movie. And O. J.

1998
01:48:36,640 --> 01:48:41,439
Speaker 1: Simpson was paid twenty thousand dollars to appear in Sasha

1999
01:48:41,520 --> 01:48:48,959
Speaker 1: Baron Cohen's new film Cash Yo Al E g Borat

2000
01:48:49,760 --> 01:48:52,679
Speaker 1: if that's really real, and I did my very best

2001
01:48:52,760 --> 01:48:55,719
Speaker 1: to check it because I funk with you. You, my friend,

2002
01:48:55,880 --> 01:48:59,320
Speaker 1: are jumping right to the top ten six fucks of

2003
01:48:59,400 --> 01:49:03,400
Speaker 1: two thou eighteen. You you wanted O J. Simpson. It

2004
01:49:03,560 --> 01:49:05,880
Speaker 1: was so important for you to have O. J. Simpson

2005
01:49:06,000 --> 01:49:09,240
Speaker 1: in your movie that you paid him twenty tho dollars

2006
01:49:09,640 --> 01:49:14,599
Speaker 1: to be in it. Damn, that's no compassion. There's nothing

2007
01:49:14,640 --> 01:49:17,080
Speaker 1: good about it. As far as I know this is true,

2008
01:49:18,600 --> 01:49:20,759
Speaker 1: I did everything I can to fact check it against

2009
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Speaker 1: my will. Borat, you sick, fuck you c Iron Rapports

2010
01:49:26,120 --> 01:49:29,280
Speaker 1: Stereo Podcast. Listen. As I told you later on in

2011
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Speaker 1: the week we got the Muggsy Bogues. On Friday, we

2012
01:49:34,160 --> 01:49:36,719
Speaker 1: will do the full review of a Lonzo Bowls first

2013
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Speaker 1: uh c D that he seems very proud of. I

2014
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Speaker 1: want to thank one more time Ellen Pompeio for rocking

2015
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Speaker 1: with us on the Iron Rapports Stereo Podcast. Gee Moody,

2016
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Speaker 1: last name rhymes with duty. My name is Michael Rapports.

2017
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Speaker 1: It is the Iron Rapports Stereo Podcast. Tell a friend

2018
01:49:51,640 --> 01:49:54,000
Speaker 1: to tell a friend to tell a friend we're out

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Speaker 1: out and I go and