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Speaker 1: At least, he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the

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Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome to the Drive. I am Dale LOLLI he

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Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson and Matt What do you wanna

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Speaker 2: talk about today?

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Speaker 3: Pappy Easter? I had a wonderful Easter. Yeah, outside the

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Speaker 3: great show. No, not trying to buy time while the

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Speaker 3: wheels spin in my head. Yeah. Not a lot going

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Speaker 3: on about the draft. Okay, draft seems like a good call, yep.

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Speaker 3: Maybe the Steelers a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we should probably do that.

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Speaker 3: We probably should. And now, I mean this week's crazy

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Speaker 3: because it's it's so close. I mean it's Thursday.

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Speaker 2: This is prime lying season.

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Speaker 3: That's what I was gonna say. I mean, like there's

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Speaker 3: not even visits this week. I mean, the teams are

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Speaker 3: putting really the finishing on the on their board, and

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Speaker 3: I'm sure there's a lot of calls being made. That's

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Speaker 3: what's going on right now, even like the free agents

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Speaker 3: maybe Aaron Rodgers aside, but I mean, like free agents

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Speaker 3: aren't getting any calls at the moment. They will right

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Speaker 3: after the draft, you know, when he gets shorter position

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Speaker 3: or whatever.

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Speaker 2: But they might even get calls during the draft. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: if you get out that, we better make a call

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean some of these veterans that are

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Speaker 3: definitely gonna be playing in the league will be you know,

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Speaker 3: latching on shortly. But really, what's all that's really happening

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Speaker 3: is these guys are staring at the board all making

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Speaker 3: their case for their favorite guy or trying to pigeonhole things.

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Speaker 3: And believe it or not, they do versions of mock

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Speaker 3: drafts too, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, yeah, just based on Okay, who do we think

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Speaker 2: is going to be available? And that's one of the

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Speaker 2: things that really stood out to me when we looked

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Speaker 2: at the Steelers' visits over the last couple of years

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Speaker 2: with with with Omar Khan. They seem have a pretty

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Speaker 2: good idea of how the board stacks up, right, well,

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Speaker 2: who's going to be available available to them at their

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Speaker 2: fifth round all or even in the first round. They said, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the cluster of guys that they've looked at were brought

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Speaker 2: in are guys who they're not bringing in top ten guys?

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Speaker 3: No, right right there? Why would that guy come in

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Speaker 3: from me? A chance?

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Speaker 2: Of the guys that they brought in have been people

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Speaker 2: who've been drafted right around their pick, which is interesting.

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Speaker 3: It is you know, like this happened a lot at

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Speaker 3: pitt Spent when I was in the recruiting world, because

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Speaker 3: we would do our best to compete with Michigan, Ohio State,

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Speaker 3: Penn State in particular.

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Speaker 2: And do so well.

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Speaker 3: Didn't do so well, right, I mean, come in second

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Speaker 3: a lot. Yeah, And that's a lot of wasted time

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Speaker 3: and a lot of heartbreak. You know, a kid gets

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Speaker 3: dates down to the wire and you're like, oh, we

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Speaker 2: I've spent you know, forty hours on the phone with

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Speaker 3: He's been the games. You know, we've been hanging out.

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Speaker 3: I know his family, blah blah blah. Coming in seconds

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Speaker 3: the worst to be almost like it was a great experience.

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Speaker 3: You got to meet the family and all that, but

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Speaker 3: better if we just didn't talk to him at all.

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Speaker 2: In that way, it's kind of like, you know, if

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Speaker 2: you've ever played Madden College Football, I haven't madged whatever

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Speaker 2: it's called back in college football that yeah, yeah, And

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Speaker 2: you get so many hours that you can spend on

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Speaker 2: and choose who you write. And so you know, if

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Speaker 2: you expend a lot of energy on this five star

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Speaker 2: recruit and you've no chance at on your resources, you

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Speaker 2: don't get him, right, Like, yeah, I mean we sent

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Speaker 2: Lebron an offer, but we didn't spend hundreds of hours

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was pretty fruitless effort. I mean, he

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Speaker 3: was gonna be the first pick in the NBA Draft

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Speaker 3: in a couple of months, you know, but coming in

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Speaker 3: seconds the worst. To your point, though, why do a

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Speaker 3: ton of homework on the top twelve guys? I mean, yes,

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Speaker 3: you want them for your files. They may they're gonna

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Speaker 3: become free agents. You're gonna play against him. You do

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Speaker 3: your due diligence. But even the biggest the scouting staffs

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Speaker 3: how are we going to use our hours? You know?

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Speaker 3: And even these scout outs going into the season, A

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Speaker 3: big thing they do leading up to the regular season

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Speaker 3: is they prepared their schedule for the week. I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: And you run it by your your director, and sometimes

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Speaker 3: they'll tell you that's not a very efficient use of time,

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Speaker 3: or frankly, you're not home enough. Go home a little bit,

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Speaker 3: you know, at least see your face and see your

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Speaker 3: family for once, you know. So that kind of stuff's important,

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Speaker 3: you know, the efficiency of where you spend your time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, I think when you look at

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Speaker 2: the Steelers' pre draft visits this year, and we talked

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Speaker 2: about this one thing that I did notice, Well, yes,

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Speaker 2: they they brought in several first round prospects.

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Speaker 3: There was two odd ones and there were two odd ones.

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Speaker 2: But those guys that might be available, let's say everything

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Speaker 2: wrong happened ahead of them, Well, these guys might be there.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's certainly player, Yeah, Golden, Golden to a

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Speaker 2: certain degree. Yeah, we're going to take another wide receiver

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Speaker 3: It's a pretty clear round one player. I guess Golden

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Speaker 2: Stuart, Yeah, but it might be a situation where okay,

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Speaker 2: these are guys that might still be there when we

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Speaker 2: when we consider taking them, and.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure there's a lot they like about them. Sure,

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Speaker 3: the athleticism's crazy for both those players are the two

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Speaker 3: freakiest guys out there, Golden as side. You need a safety,

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Speaker 3: do you need a big edge? No, But someone in

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Speaker 3: the building that's evaluating them probably still has a high

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Speaker 3: interest in them, And would it be terrible to tell

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Speaker 3: the league you really like those guys. So someone trade

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Speaker 3: that really wants them goes ahead to you to take

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Speaker 3: one more player fell to us. We really want, you know.

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Speaker 2: But the interesting thing to me about it is that

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Speaker 2: there were a lot of visitors that I expect that

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Speaker 3: And before and before their pick at eighty three, Right, Alexsumably,

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Speaker 3: I mean, we don't know one hundred percent, but we

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Speaker 3: that the big D tackle Alexander from Toledo is going

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Speaker 3: to be on the board at twenty one. I only

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Speaker 3: used to be on the board at eighty three, right,

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Speaker 3: you know. And they seem to have a lot of

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Speaker 3: those examples, im. A couple of the receivers have mentioned

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Speaker 3: a couple of D linemen really fall in that no

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and like even the cornerbacks Trey Amos and Aerie

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Speaker 3: Are using twenty one on Amos, you probably have to

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Speaker 3: if you're gonna get him with the car peck, right,

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Speaker 3: that's where.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna have to take him, because he's not gonna

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Speaker 3: No, and Thomas, I think has no chance to be

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Speaker 2: So I just it just makes me wonder if they're

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Speaker 2: into that second round. I think they would like to ideally,

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Speaker 2: but how do you do that? What's the best way

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it might be a series of moves, you know,

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Speaker 3: it's hard. Like when we do our mocks, we usually

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Speaker 3: make one right back move, but sometimes you know, if

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Speaker 3: you can move back two or three spots still get

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Speaker 3: the guy you like, packing something else up.

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Speaker 2: And to move.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a future pick or you know, a player we're

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Speaker 3: I do think they're not just going to sit in

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Speaker 2: What I don't think is going to happen is I

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Speaker 2: don't see the stealers trading a player.

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Speaker 3: I really don't.

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Speaker 2: They're not trading George Pickens. They're not trading TJ.

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Speaker 3: Watt. No, no, make a certainly not no, see a malu.

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Speaker 3: There's no starter in place. I mean, you're not going

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Speaker 2: What you're doing when you do that is opening up

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Speaker 2: right right not open another hole in your roster. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: for a draft pick that you don't know if it's

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's no way water make a move I mean,

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Speaker 3: the only thing I could see is I can't. Boy,

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Speaker 3: we have such a high grade on Golden, we can't

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Speaker 3: believe he's there. We're going to take him and try

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Speaker 3: to move George for a Day two pick. I mean

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Speaker 3: it would have to be because we drafted this player.

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Speaker 3: We can now move a vet and.

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Speaker 2: You've still you've still created the hole. You've drafted before

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Speaker 2: the hole. But you didn't fill the needs that you

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Speaker 2: had going into the draft, right.

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Speaker 3: Right right, that's the You didn't change his move shy

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Speaker 3: and stuff around, young gir a little cheaper whatever, different style,

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Speaker 3: blah blah blah. Is that enough for a first round pick?

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Speaker 2: Probably not, But you have legitimate needs going into this

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Speaker 2: draft that you have to fill. They need probably two

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Speaker 2: defensive linemen. They need they need a guy who they

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Speaker 2: can presumably play it nose tackles, a long term replacement

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Speaker 2: for Cam Hayward. Even if you want to move, as

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Speaker 2: we've talked about a lot, you know you want to

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Speaker 2: take you know, you got rid of og and Joby.

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Speaker 2: You know, if you want to move somebody to outside

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Speaker 2: then you then you definitely need a nose.

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Speaker 3: He definitely knows, and some of these guys can do both.

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Speaker 3: But there's just not enough highly capable bodies in the

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Speaker 3: especially when you factor in Hayward's eight.

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Speaker 2: And I you know, we saw Cam's snaps go from

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Speaker 2: he had always played eighty percent in previous years down

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Speaker 3: I'd love to see two thirds seventy you know right.

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Speaker 2: Now, that's what you The problem then becomes when he

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Speaker 2: Draft, no doubt. And and that's why I've said all

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Speaker 3: Right right right there weren't big name receivers flying around.

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Speaker 2: that moved. You know, DK Metcalf's more impactful than oh.

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Speaker 3: Right, big for the Raiders to add Gina right, you know, but.

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Speaker 2: See is as big of a player or as impactful

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because the top receivers in this in this free

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Speaker 2: And frankly, I'm not that big of a deal.

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Speaker 3: If the Metcalf trade never happens, I don't want to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, can we get James Higgins.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that'll fix the problem. Maybe it won't, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Or who we just take Abuca and take the bird

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Speaker 2: It just it just sets up well to do it

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Speaker 3: Can they do another maneuver? You know, get more?

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Speaker 2: The question I've been asked is, well, would you trade

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Speaker 2: I'm not trading out George Pickens for a eman or

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Speaker 3: I mean, none of those guys are as talent as pickings,

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Speaker 3: Abukah is still there. Okay, maybe if I you know, maybe,

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Speaker 3: But am I trading pickings for Alexander that's a non receiver? No,

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Speaker 3: probably not, you know, right? And then I got another

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Speaker 2: You know, And just I think I think that's why

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Speaker 3: I don't either, I really don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they're definitely not trading on.

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Speaker 3: I think they've been down the road. Will be one

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you do that, now you're back in the

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Speaker 2: that's that's all well and good. You got DK metcalf.

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Speaker 3: Right, It's bad, it's bad, bad, right, And Austin and

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Speaker 2: Or chance you're better off than you were last year

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Speaker 2: at that time when you're you know, you're playing Van

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Speaker 3: Hope so, but you don't know yet. You don't know yet.

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Speaker 3: I'm with you again. I think the plan is, let's

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Speaker 2: What I think people overlook and hey, George Pickens is

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Speaker 3: Well they all do.

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Speaker 2: Hey, George, you're playing for a contract this year. You know.

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Speaker 3: Let's pouting on the sideline might not help or given

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Speaker 2: Or whether it's with the Steelers or whether it's with whoever,

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen where they put their lockers yet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but I.

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Speaker 2: Might put DK Metcalf right next to you hang out

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Speaker 2: think that makes a lot of sense because again, the team,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you in the third round and Savinia

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Speaker 2: I mean like that, that's a move that you make

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Speaker 3: I could crazy young, I could take it.

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Speaker 2: I could take that young player and just plug it

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Speaker 3: Look, I got more cap space his experience, eight years younger.

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Speaker 3: Blah blah blah. Right, but I'm not giving up. You're

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Speaker 3: I'm not even sure it's a foregone conclusion. He walks

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Speaker 2: Because I drift sort a guy in the got.

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Speaker 3: My hands on this guy, and he's a Steeler and

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Speaker 2: And that doesn't mean they don't take one this year.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to be in the first round.

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Speaker 3: I don't either, I really don't. I mean, it's such

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Speaker 2: I get it, you were reconsider it, but I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that he gets there and it's already

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Speaker 2: The thing that did change is like, for example, they

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Speaker 2: They're not taking they're not going to take him in

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Speaker 3: What right we got to know if this was last year,

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Speaker 2: It goes back to what we talked about at the Open,

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Speaker 3: And they've also not brought a couple that are exciting.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't mean they don't have any interest in Nolan,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, anyways, let's get to a break. He is the

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Speaker 3: But in some instance sneak out of buildings, sneak out.

436
00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,720
Speaker 2: And it's interesting you mentioned that. You know, we talked

437
00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,280
Speaker 2: about how the Steelers have an idea. They have a

438
00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:52,160
Speaker 2: pro personal department like every other team, and those pro

439
00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:56,720
Speaker 2: personnel departments at this time of year become very important

440
00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:00,720
Speaker 2: because they know what everybody else's team needs.

441
00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:05,800
Speaker 3: Are yes, I mean it's the pro guys don't do

442
00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:07,960
Speaker 3: a lot of draft stuff, you know, like they might

443
00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,320
Speaker 3: cross tight ends or something. They get involved here and there,

444
00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,800
Speaker 3: but they were really busy. Their time was free agency

445
00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,840
Speaker 3: and all during the year. I mean, every week something

446
00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,560
Speaker 3: happens to the teams you're responsible for. There's an injury,

447
00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,679
Speaker 3: there's a roster move, and then there's coaching changes. But

448
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:28,000
Speaker 3: their biggest job, besides having reports on every player at

449
00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,080
Speaker 3: this time of year is think as the Seahawks think,

450
00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,720
Speaker 3: you know, like, do you think they would you know,

451
00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,360
Speaker 3: I'm just pulled the seahawkside of the blue. They need

452
00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,760
Speaker 3: an interior alignment. Do you think they'd want Booker is able, Well,

453
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,080
Speaker 3: they just change their schemes. Able makes a heck of

454
00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,320
Speaker 3: a lot more sense. So okay, we don't mind if

455
00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,600
Speaker 3: that guy falls. Booker probably will fall, you know, if

456
00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:49,240
Speaker 3: the Steelers are in the market for a guard, you

457
00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,080
Speaker 3: know whatever. And I don't know if teams do this,

458
00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,159
Speaker 3: but I absolutely think they should. Is truly have a

459
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,280
Speaker 3: mock draft. Like when I was with the Browns, I

460
00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,600
Speaker 3: was in charge of the NFC West, I always thought

461
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,359
Speaker 3: we should have a mock draft where I made the

462
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:06,160
Speaker 3: picks for the Rams, Niners, Seahawks as if I were them,

463
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,840
Speaker 3: trying to be in their head. What would I do

464
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 3: if I were them, and what do I predict them

465
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,240
Speaker 3: to do. I don't know if they do that or not.

466
00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 3: I think they should.

467
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,239
Speaker 2: Well again, though, if you're the pro guy and you

468
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,639
Speaker 2: really don't know the college players, right is in depth

469
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,159
Speaker 2: as the college scouts you can sell. All you do

470
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 2: is stuff up here are the needs, needs, And it's

471
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,040
Speaker 2: not like they tackle.

472
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:27,960
Speaker 3: They're like they need a detackle for third and eight

473
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,119
Speaker 3: when they're in a blitz of situation. You know, like

474
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 3: they go further into the needs.

475
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:37,360
Speaker 2: And the thing about it is pro scouting departments are

476
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:42,200
Speaker 2: actually like spies in a way. Yeah, because when you're

477
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:46,399
Speaker 2: out of the game every week, depending on where, it

478
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,480
Speaker 2: doesn't really matter where you go. Every stadium that you

479
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:52,439
Speaker 2: go to, you'll see a list of the media people

480
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 2: or whoever's going to be in the press box that day,

481
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 2: and you can look over the list and at the

482
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,400
Speaker 2: end of the list, usually up in a third row,

483
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,639
Speaker 2: there's five six scouts from your future opponents up up.

484
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 3: You know. Yeah, why is there a bear scout here

485
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:11,119
Speaker 3: for Steelers Ravens? Well, two weeks and four weeks they

486
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,639
Speaker 3: play the Ravens, there's advanced scouting. I mean some of

487
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 3: those pro guys are two weeks ahead. Yeah, so the

488
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 3: day as soon as your game ends, they can brief.

489
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,159
Speaker 3: They don't get to write a game plan for you,

490
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 3: but they brief the coaching staff of this is what

491
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 3: they're looking to do. They got a gunner hurt yesterday.

492
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:28,399
Speaker 3: I don't know who their gunner is going to be,

493
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,719
Speaker 3: but it's gonna be a replacement guy. You know, a

494
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 3: rookie corner looks like he might be inching into the lineup.

495
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 3: Maybe you want to attack them, you know, boy, this

496
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 3: blitz gave them a ton of problems. You know that

497
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,919
Speaker 3: type of that type of stuff, advanced scouting.

498
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 2: The punter holds the ball for two point seven seconds, yeah, yeah, yeah.

499
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,879
Speaker 3: Right, or everything it's a little it's a problem, you know.

500
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,359
Speaker 3: And back in the day this sounds so crazy, but

501
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,679
Speaker 3: there would be the league put it out. But it

502
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 3: was an Adobe file that sometimes was like two three

503
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 3: hundred words per day, and it was like every article

504
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 3: all conglomerated into one. And I remember our director of

505
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,400
Speaker 3: pro scouting and he'd be on the road. He'd ask

506
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 3: one of the admins, Hey, can you print that out

507
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 3: for me. He'd leave with like this much paper, you know,

508
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 3: just killed one hundred trees, leaf through them and find

509
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 3: notes here and there, highlight them, you know, like old

510
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 3: school stuff like oh, that could be on my phone,

511
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 3: and I don't need to. I'm not going to go

512
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 3: through every word just to find those things. But every

513
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:26,199
Speaker 3: day I read Cardinals, Niners, the Yawks, stuff like you

514
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,439
Speaker 3: might have written, you know, and just say maybe I

515
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,679
Speaker 3: can get something out of there. Yeah, And then does

516
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 3: that translate the tape or is this writer of no

517
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 3: clue we're talking about this guy's talking. Yeah, I've been

518
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,239
Speaker 3: dealing with a hamstring the last couple of weeks, I'm

519
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,159
Speaker 3: stop playing through it. Well, that wouldn't necessarily show up

520
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,199
Speaker 3: on game day or maybe even on the injury report, right,

521
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 3: you know, but like left leg is kind of dragon

522
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 3: if you look at it through that light. So I

523
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 3: mean it's invested in to your PI.

524
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 2: Yeah right, you know, are investigating in the team. I

525
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 2: can remember the year before the Jaguars came into Lee.

526
00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:02,439
Speaker 2: I've mentioned this before. Tom Kaughlin was at at least

527
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,880
Speaker 2: six Steeler games that year. He'd been hired a year

528
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,919
Speaker 2: ahead of time to be the head coach of the

529
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 2: Jaguars before they were even in existence.

530
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

531
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he went to a bunch of Steeler games.

532
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,199
Speaker 2: I'm sure he went to a bunch of he's on

533
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 2: the Jags Pals games. Yeah, yeah, he's working the Titans

534
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 2: at that time were still in the division. They were

535
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 2: the Oilers in But I'm sure he was. You know,

536
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 2: he's there, he's putting a noteput together.

537
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely. And could you find all this stuff out

538
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,640
Speaker 3: on tape? Probably, you know, I mean, as being in

539
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 3: the press box with you guys that much more of

540
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 3: an advantage to watching on tape on Monday. Maybe not

541
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 3: get a.

542
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 2: Couple of things that the spy aspect of this is

543
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 2: that you can watch the sideline.

544
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 3: Oh that's there's nothing wrong with that. You're allowed to

545
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 3: do that during the game, Yeah, signals or who might

546
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 3: be hurt, or who's getting chewed out, or who's on

547
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 3: the bench with sulking in the corner or that type

548
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 3: of thing.

549
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 2: Thing of that nature.

550
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean a big thing we did. I only

551
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 3: think I traveled with the Browns once or twice, I know,

552
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 3: reason going road games. I came to Pittsburgh because it

553
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 3: was a drive and I got to stay at home

554
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 3: to night, you know whatever. But like a big thing

555
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 3: i'd do in home games is they said, just walk

556
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 3: around the other team and body type them. You know, like, boy,

557
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 3: he's it was eight years since his combine. He looks

558
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 3: twenty pounds heavier than when he looked at his combine.

559
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 3: You know in our files he's three ten. That dude's

560
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 3: not three to ten. You know, like that type of thing,

561
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,239
Speaker 3: this body type him and write your notes, put him

562
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,199
Speaker 3: in our system just to add you know, like all right,

563
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 3: you know, walk around and kind of see who's intermingling

564
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 3: with who. I remember we played the Ravens and there

565
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 3: was like, I forget exactly who it was, but Jonathan

566
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 3: Ogden was inactive, and there was like him and four

567
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 3: future Hall of famers just kind of in their own

568
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 3: little It was like the cool circle. It was like

569
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 3: him and I think Woodson was on the team, Louis

570
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 3: Reid and Joe Blow Punter wasn't no way was walking

571
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 3: in that group. You know, they were just kind of

572
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 3: chilling by themselves. I'm like, I'm gonna at least walk

573
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,199
Speaker 3: past them and see what they're up to. You know.

574
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 2: I bring this up because s I today SI dot

575
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 2: Com put together a list of They went out and

576
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 2: talked to scouts from other teams pro personnel departments to

577
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 2: list the needs of each team.

578
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,479
Speaker 3: Oh okay, which is exactly where you want to get

579
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 3: it real quick. I'm gonna make one more note too,

580
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 3: Like when you're mocking it up or you're drafting, man,

581
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,120
Speaker 3: I hope that guy gets to me. But the Ravens

582
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 3: are in front of us, and they need the same position.

583
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 3: The Ravens are a bad example because the division you

584
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 3: know so well that everybody in the building is right,

585
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,160
Speaker 3: that's a Raven or it's not. We have to get

586
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:42,919
Speaker 3: ahead of them. But like they might call you in

587
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 3: and be like, do you think Seattle will take this

588
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 3: nose or this three technique? You know? Do you think

589
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 3: we have to move up three or four spots to

590
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 3: get our guy? Nah, that's not their style, you.

591
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 2: Know, which brings me to well, I wanted to talk

592
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 2: about this. So we're gonna go look at the Steelers'

593
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 2: needs we know, and you can put them in whatever

594
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 2: do you want, quarterback, running back, defensive tackle, cornerback, quarterback

595
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 2: would be way down, would be further down the list

596
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 2: of me. It would be a nice It might be.

597
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 3: My fourth Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm it gives I haven't

598
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 3: looked at this article, but it does give it some

599
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 3: credence that they put the tackle amongst the list. But

600
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 3: one the teams are the writers out there or the

601
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 3: the experts that never mentioned the tackle as a need.

602
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 3: They don't know this team very well.

603
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 2: I see seven round mock drafts that have them taking

604
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 2: no defensive tackles. I'm like, you're out of your mind.

605
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 3: Man made the sixth round. They took a flyer on

606
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 3: this guy from Saginaw State. Blah blah blah. Ain't they

607
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 3: ain't gonna cut it.

608
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 2: So if you start looking then at the teams after them.

609
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 2: For the Chargers defensive tackle, wide receiver, tight end, running back, edge.

610
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 3: It's not hard to find needs for them.

611
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. For the Packers cornerback, offensive tackle, edge, defensive tackle.

612
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 3: Okay, like a lot of people even put receiver there,

613
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 3: which is a bit of a I mean there were

614
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 3: you could win with those receivers.

615
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've got a bunch of receivers, Like maybe they

616
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 2: don't have a number one, which is.

617
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 3: What the Wasston's banged up. And you know, right, I

618
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 3: know for the Vikings guard if there's one guard spot

619
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 3: that's still kind of shaky.

620
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, defensive tackle, safety, cornerback.

621
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 3: And the d tackles they signed are older.

622
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 2: And yeah, so in safety and corner like set both secondaries.

623
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 3: It's wrong.

624
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, huge For the Texans offensive tackle, guard, wide receiver,

625
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 2: they got three definitive needs.

626
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 3: And they because of the Tunsile trade, they can address

627
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 3: them all. Yeah. They're kind of the opposite situation of

628
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 3: Steelers of how does this work best? Is it best

629
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 3: to go tackle and then wait for the receiver or

630
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 3: you know, probably gonna wait on an interior guy. But

631
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 3: they created needs by trading Tunsle, and you know, they

632
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 3: decide to revamp their entire rod line room, which is

633
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 3: hard to do.

634
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,959
Speaker 2: For the Rams, it's cornerback, inside linebacker, quarterback.

635
00:28:58,640 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 3: I agree with that. I don't know if they'll do

636
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 3: anything about inside linebacker. They ignored that position, and no

637
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 3: end doesn't mean it's not a need.

638
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 2: For the Ravens, it's edge, safety and guard.

639
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 3: I'm glad they guard a lot of people, don't We

640
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 3: talked about this all the time, like, how could you

641
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 3: be happy with that pair of guards? The offense was

642
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 3: great with them, right, That doesn't mean it's the great

643
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 3: idea for the Lions. It is.

644
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 2: We're picking at twenty eight edge, defensive tackle and guard.

645
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 3: Losing Zeitler. They were kind of going to piece that

646
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 3: spot together. I don't know that they'll be happy with it.

647
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 2: For Washington at twenty nine, it's edge, offensive line, safety,

648
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 2: wide receiver.

649
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 3: Okay, you could probably wait a year on receiver, but

650
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 3: I wouldn't wait too long. Yeah, they did draft McCaffrey

651
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 3: last year.

652
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 2: For the Bills, it's cornerback, edge defensive tackle.

653
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 3: Okay, I'd throw safety in there. I'm not sure edge

654
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 3: is at the top of the list. We do it

655
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 3: or so.

656
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 2: For Kansas, City. It is offensive tackle, guard, cornerback.

657
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, but if I kind of feel like one O

658
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 3: lineman would do the trick. But I don't know how

659
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 3: married they are to Taylor. I mean, I know that

660
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 3: they signed more.

661
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 2: I can't imagine they're very married to Taylor.

662
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 3: Right, right, shouldn't be. They're in a predicament with their tackles.

663
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 2: For the Eagles, it is edge, wide receiver and offensive line.

664
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean wide receiver. I have heard some things

665
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 3: it's gonna be hard to keep Smith and Brown long term.

666
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

667
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 3: I don't know what they think of Dots And I

668
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 3: assume his fifth years coming up soon and they won't.

669
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,479
Speaker 2: Pick it up. I think this year is it this year?

670
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 3: And there's no way they'll pick it up now, you know.

671
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 3: And Godard could be on the move, maybe just another

672
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 3: pass catcher in general.

673
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 2: So if we look at these needs in the order

674
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 2: that they're placed here, if you are the Kansas City

675
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 2: Chiefs picking at thirty one, yeah, are you going to

676
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 2: get an offensive lineman at tackle or guard at thirty one?

677
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 3: Well? I kind of had a feeling you were going

678
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 3: to go down this road. A lot of teams said edge,

679
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 3: even these playoff teams. If there's a run, which I

680
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 3: think there could be in one to twenty, could could

681
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 3: five edge guys go off the board, and then all

682
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 3: of a sudden, It's like, man, we thought Pierce was

683
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 3: a surefire guy to be for the Lions. Do we

684
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 3: have to move up to get them?

685
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 2: That's another one.

686
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 3: And I think tackle to your point is always thin. Yeah,

687
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 3: I mean if Connerly or.

688
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 2: Simmons, I think Simmons is the wild card in this

689
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 2: whole thing because if he were clean right now, I

690
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 2: think he's a top ten pick.

691
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 3: Oh, I do too. There's been some character stuff thrown

692
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 3: out there, not like he's a bad guy, but he's

693
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 3: does he love football? Does he love football? He's a

694
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 3: little young. It's it's so typical for some of these

695
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 3: big guys that are so talented. That's come a little

696
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 3: easier for them, you know, Yeah, because they're six six,

697
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 3: three thirty, whether they're a de tackle or tackle that

698
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 3: just can throw people around without technique.

699
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 2: But if I'm the Chiefs, I'll give you a lot

700
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 2: for Simmons, And I've got two picks in the sixties.

701
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 2: Can I get up using those picks with the Steelers

702
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 2: for example?

703
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 3: Yeah?

704
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 2: Right, because I want to get ahead of Houston. I

705
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 2: want to get ahead of Baltimore because these needs. That's

706
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 2: certainly something I would I would be keeping an eye on.

707
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think a Rondo.

708
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 2: Bills for example, mentioned cornerback and edge being two of

709
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 2: their biggest needs and the top two needs according to

710
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 2: what yeah yeah, football people are saying, let's say Will

711
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 2: Johnson is still there at twenty one, right, do I

712
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 2: want to go up and get Will Johnson? Yes, I'd

713
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 2: seriously think about it.

714
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean, do you really want to trust I mean,

715
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 3: Revel or Benjamin if you're them, I'm needing the wing

716
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 3: win now. They may even be better prospects than Johnson

717
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 3: if clean. I don't think they are, but they're close.

718
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 3: But I can't wait. I'm here to win it. I'm

719
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 3: not the Giants or the you know, a team like that.

720
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're again the edge run you just talked about.

721
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 3: It, right, I mean I think it would be who

722
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 3: the Steelers And this is neat but for two reasons.

723
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 3: As many tackles and edges that can go off the board,

724
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 3: the better, because then it's going to create a shortage

725
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 3: for the next ones. Plus the positions you want aren't

726
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 3: getting touched as much.

727
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 2: The commanders are in the same boat. Edge and offensive line. Yeah,

728
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 2: listed is our top two needs. Well there's yeah, I

729
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 2: hear it.

730
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 3: When we'll go.

731
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 2: Get it now, edges, a little edge is a deeper

732
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 2: position throughout this draft.

733
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 3: But no tackle, sure, defensive tackle is not right. And

734
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 3: I was kind of kind of say the same thing.

735
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,239
Speaker 3: But I was listening to mcshay's latest podcast, and this

736
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 3: one was all about stuff he's been hearing, you know,

737
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 3: and he'll be the first to tell you. I'm sure

738
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 3: there's some lies and blah blah blah, but he's pretty

739
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 3: dialed in. He's been doing this twenty five years. I

740
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 3: think we got hired together. And he basically said, so

741
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 3: many teams have told me Joe Toney, I'm like, well,

742
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 3: I'm thinking he's like, well, none of you know what

743
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 3: that means. But he's like, what a great guard, maybe

744
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 3: a Hall of Fame guard, but you watch super I

745
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 3: want Michael Williams, not Thony playing tackle with arms an

746
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 3: inch too short and wingspan two inches too short, just

747
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 3: trying to get by, just trying to get by. I

748
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 3: want to be the hammer, not the nail here. I

749
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 3: want to be the eagle side of that thing. So

750
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 3: give me Walker, Williams, Pierce, whoever, and I'll figure it

751
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 3: out on O line, you know. I mean there's not

752
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 3: many prototypical tackles. I don't want Thony, I want sweat.

753
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. But if I'm a team and I want one

754
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 2: of those tackles, I want Simmons or I see, you know,

755
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 2: he's gone and all of a sudden I'm looking at

756
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 2: you know, is Connorly going to get past the Texans?

757
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 2: I don't know.

758
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,919
Speaker 3: Connorley's rarely off the board and mocks by twenty one.

759
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 3: I don't know if I agree with that. Yeah, I

760
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 3: mean he could get a little stronger, but there's a

761
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 3: lot of ability there. Like Houston really comes to mind.

762
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 3: It's like, well, you moved on from Tunsel, but you

763
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 3: sign Cam Robinson, who's an NFL tackle, But he's not

764
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 3: the answer, right, But I can wait a while with

765
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 3: connor and I don't maybe to.

766
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 2: Play Connolly at guard for a year while he gets.

767
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah whatever. I mean the Bravens is that

768
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 3: with Jonathan Ogden his rookie year played guard at six nine,

769
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 3: or the Chiefs do have the right tackle that they

770
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 3: probably don't love, but he's going to be the right

771
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 3: tackles here.

772
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 2: He signed the left tack He signed too much money,

773
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 2: but he's a journeyman.

774
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 3: I'd love to have Connerley there.

775
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know in the and they still need or next.

776
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 3: Right.

777
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 2: So I'm saying, one of these teams that really has

778
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 2: an offensive line need I could see them wanting to

779
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 2: get up to twenty one to get ahead of the Packers. Yeah,

780
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,479
Speaker 2: take an offensive line Houston, who could take an.

781
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 3: Off Houston would scare the heck out of me. Right, yeah, No,

782
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 3: I'm with you. Do you think the the only team

783
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 3: that you meant to post Steelers? I mean they're all

784
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,919
Speaker 3: playoff teams. Do you think the Rams would go get

785
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,919
Speaker 3: Dark or Shadore. I don't think that's how they're right.

786
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 2: I think they're going to trade up to that because

787
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 2: they don't have a second round.

788
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 3: Pick and they just get I think a lot of money.

789
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 2: If it just worked out that way, they would be

790
00:35:59,400 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 2: fine doing it.

791
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 3: Might consider it like they might take him over the

792
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 3: Kentucky corner if they're both sitting there when the Rams

793
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 3: are truly on the clock. But you can trade a

794
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 3: bunch of future stuff for a guy that's sitting around

795
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 3: and if I'm Stafford, I don't love that. You know,

796
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 3: we just talked about trying to win this thing, you know,

797
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 3: coming back. He just gave me money and you don't

798
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 3: have a second round pick and the first position you're

799
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 3: gonna help me with is the third round. That doesn't

800
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 3: really do it for me.

801
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 2: No me either.

802
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 3: So they had a good run. I mean they almost

803
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 3: beat the super Bowl champs in the playoffs, right.

804
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 2: But yeah, that was from Albert Breer's needs, team needs

805
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 2: that He talked to a bunch of yeah yeah, pro

806
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,919
Speaker 2: personnel guys about and you know, I just it got

807
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 2: my mind thinking.

808
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 3: There, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I humberson agree. Someone on Twitter

809
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 3: took the time to they only tagged me and I

810
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,919
Speaker 3: mentioned you after that, like all the he laid out

811
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 3: here's seven or eight teams that could trade up with

812
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 3: the Steelers for this position and even put the compensation

813
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 3: in there. Some of the compensation was a little light.

814
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 3: I looked at it, but they took their time to

815
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 3: do it. It was pretty cool and they actually thought, you know,

816
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 3: even mentioned like Brown Giants for a quarterback, you know,

817
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 3: like in the second round Chiefs or a tackle you know,

818
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 3: on and on and when you see it on paper

819
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 3: and there's seven or eight possibilities, they're like, there's a

820
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 3: pretty good chance one of these could come to fruition.

821
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no doubt. Yeah, absolutely. Anyways, let's get to

822
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Speaker 2: another break. He is the Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lollie.

823
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Speaker 2: You're listening to the Drive. You're on the Steelers Audio Network, Matt,

824
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Speaker 2: and I'll be back with more right after.

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Speaker 1: This at least is the Drive with Dale Lolly and

826
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: Matt Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of

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Speaker 1: the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And we are back. I'm Dale Lolli. He is the

829
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. And Matt I think one of the biggest

830
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 2: questions surrounding the Steelers heading into this draft is the

831
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 2: sher Door Sanders question.

832
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's really is two sides. I know where

833
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 3: we both land in the end, but I understand both

834
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 3: sides wholeheartedly.

835
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Speaker 2: Would you take him if he's still available? And I

836
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 2: have to tell people every time what depends on who

837
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 2: else is still there? And Okay, if all the defensive

838
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 2: linemen are swept off the board, then yes, I would

839
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 2: take him. If they're not, then the answer is.

840
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 3: No, and we're getting down to the wire. I only

841
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 3: know if we'll get around to it. But if we

842
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 3: were to redo our twenty one, or you do it

843
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 3: twenty one, I do it later in a week, he's

844
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 3: probably in it. Yeah, And frankly, I think Milrow would

845
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 3: be in it for me. I don't think Dart would

846
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 3: be just because I'm not taking an edge. I'm not

847
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 3: taking a tackle, you know. Like, but the twenty one's

848
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 3: a great exercise. But you're never gonna get to twenty

849
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 3: one never. I mean he might be. If you never

850
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 3: get to nineteen, you're never going to get to eighteen,

851
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 3: you know. I mean, Will Campbell's gonna go, Membo's gonna go,

852
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 3: you know, Mason Graham is going to go. I mean

853
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,720
Speaker 3: the guys that might not even be in in our radar,

854
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 3: Walker is definitely gonna go. There's no chances in my

855
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 3: twenty one, right, you know what I mean maybe the

856
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 3: tight ends, you know. So for him to be the

857
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 3: top player on my board, it seems really unlikely.

858
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 2: There's probably going to be at least ten guys that

859
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 2: are gone. Yeah, yeah, maybe not ten.

860
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, but I could see why he'd be

861
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 3: the top player on their board. If they think he's

862
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 3: a franchise quarterback. That trump's all. But I have reservations.

863
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 3: But they've studied them more than me. There's no way

864
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 3: I could pass on Grant, Harmon or Nolan for him though.

865
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just right.

866
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 3: You know, I also real quick if they do trade

867
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 3: down and get more Draft Day two capital, I'd be

868
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,919
Speaker 3: much more likely to take a Tier two or three

869
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 3: quarterback as opposed to Accord in the fifth or something

870
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 3: like that. You know, that's a different it's a difference.

871
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,720
Speaker 2: That's a different conversation kind of what I told somebody

872
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 2: when they asked me that on on our YouTube channel,

873
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 2: like what what would you or would you be in

874
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 2: on doing taking a quarterback in the first round. I

875
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 2: need to know if I've gotten back into the second round.

876
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, again, that changes the dynamic. I guess a better

877
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 3: way to starting my defensive.

878
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 2: Line, starting to draft defensive lineman even in a deep

879
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 2: draft in the third round, when I also need to

880
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 2: draft a running back. Now, now you're light there. Now

881
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 2: I'm starting to get light, and I need these guys

882
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 2: to come in and be able to contribute on a

883
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 2: regular basis right away.

884
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 3: And I'm sure you could find some big, old, heavy

885
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 3: set nose tackle to get you through the year. You

886
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,399
Speaker 3: know it's a veteran. That's a professional. Fine, but that's

887
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 3: not really what I wanted to address.

888
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 2: A long term answer.

889
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,399
Speaker 3: When there's ten noses in this draft, I love yeah,

890
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I'm much rather have Caldwell

891
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 3: or you know, somebody like that that I can have

892
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 3: for a long time. Cheap yeah, cheap let alone. You're

893
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 3: definitely out on Nolan, Harmon Alexander. I mean, all the

894
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 3: difference making end types. I mean, there's no chance. So

895
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 3: we talk about this a lot, or at least I

896
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 3: throw it out there, like if Robin Williams comes out

897
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 3: of the Genie comes out and says, I'll give you

898
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 3: Shador Sanders for twenty one today on the twenty first

899
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 3: of April, I'm saying no. But after twenty picks on

900
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 3: Thursday night, I might.

901
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 2: Say, I say, yeah, that's kind of my I don't

902
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,919
Speaker 2: know how the first round is going to go right

903
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 2: because quite frankly, again, after you get through those first

904
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 2: three or four picks, it's a bass. There's not a

905
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 2: lot of difference between pick number five or six or seven.

906
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,439
Speaker 2: In pick number forty.

907
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 3: Right right right there just isn't There isn't.

908
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,280
Speaker 2: I've been let alone fifty or sixty, which might also

909
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 2: be the case.

910
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 3: Terrible year to pick four or five, six, you know.

911
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 3: I mean, if you want to get.

912
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison junior, nighbors or alt, I mean, you're not

913
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 2: getting that guy. And it doesn't mean these guys won't

914
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:03,240
Speaker 2: be good players.

915
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 3: They're just not as good a prospect.

916
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 2: They're just not Wow, that guy's gonna be a future

917
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 2: pro bowler. They're going to be starters, They're gonna be

918
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,760
Speaker 2: guys who you know, maybe some of them will develop

919
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 2: into pro bultype place.

920
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,720
Speaker 3: We don't have a crystal ball. I mean, Robert Williams

921
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 3: isn't telling us, you know, exactly how it's going to go.

922
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 2: You know, they're not telling anybody.

923
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 3: Yeah right, but no, I would not trade twenty one

924
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 3: for Sanders or Millrow for that matter, you know, and

925
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 3: that one knows. I love Millrow. Not right now. I'd

926
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,240
Speaker 3: rather even if the wrong twenty fella off the board,

927
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 3: I still would want to use every fifteen, every second

928
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 3: of my fifteen minutes to see if I get a call. Yeah,

929
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 3: you know, I'd rather let it play out I'm not

930
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 3: taking door number one on them.

931
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 2: And those are the those are the conversations that are

932
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 2: happening right now. Absolutely this week, this is you know

933
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 2: you well, such and such team as talking about moving back.

934
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 2: Every team in the league is making calls, Hey, you're

935
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:56,919
Speaker 2: willing to move back, you want to move up? What's

936
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 2: what's uh? You know, what are you looking to do

937
00:42:58,600 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 2: in this draft?

938
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 3: I referenced Shay's podcast. I listened to it this morning,

939
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 3: and again he's been doing a long time. He said,

940
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 3: I've never seen such late quarterback stuff. Now I'll explain

941
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 3: that in a minute that I have this year. And

942
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 3: he said the Browns, Giants, Saints and he said not

943
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 3: Steelers even said that. He said, Steelers have seemed pretty

944
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 3: set in what they think of. These guys are flying

945
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 3: all over the country. They're shipping in everyone they possibly can.

946
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 3: The entire organizations go into Boulder or miss Mississippi or whatever.

947
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 3: That they are doing more and more work than he

948
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 3: can ever imagine with these couple quarterbacks like from mill

949
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 3: Roe or better Millroe shuck, yeah, Dart.

950
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 2: I was listening to serious this morning, Serious NFL, and

951
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 2: I can't.

952
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 3: Which means they're not taking them two or three, right,

953
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 3: you know, but how much do I like them?

954
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 2: But I'm listening and they had the former Patriots cornerback on.

955
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 2: I can't remember who.

956
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 3: Not Tyler or No, No, it's I mean they've they've

957
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 3: had a lot of quarnerbacks. Yeah.

958
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 2: Anyways, he's on the show and he's talking about how

959
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 2: the Giants if I'm the If I'm the Giants ownership,

960
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 2: I don't trust. I don't trust this head coach and

961
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 2: GM to draft my next quarterback. And I'm like, well,

962
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 2: if that's the case, you should fire should have fired that,

963
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 2: Like they may only have a year left. Well, if

964
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 2: that's the case, then you should have fired them. Then

965
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 2: if you don't trust.

966
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 3: This, blame ownership. Yeah, there's only one person blame if

967
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 3: that's the truth. Right right now, that makes no sense

968
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 3: to me at all. So you know, to me, maybe

969
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 3: they will screw it up. Maybe, but a lot of

970
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 3: teams do.

971
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 2: If that's the case, that you should have fired them, absolutely,

972
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 2: especially at GM.

973
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 3: Right, you don't trust it might help you. I don't

974
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 3: trust him to do this draft. And what are you

975
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 3: doing in the building right?

976
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 2: That just drove me create. I'm like, what are you

977
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:41,879
Speaker 2: talking about?

978
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,919
Speaker 3: Right? I mean, I'm not saying the ownership should trust them,

979
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 3: but they must or they would have fired would have

980
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 3: fired them, Right, you're not going to give them another

981
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 3: year and say, well, we're going to give you one

982
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 3: more year and then we're going to fire you at

983
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 3: the end of the year. But through this, after you

984
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 3: screw up the quarterback, then first after you screw up

985
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 3: another draft, that'd be great. Yeah, it makes no sense,

986
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 3: That makes no sense at all. No, that's not the

987
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 3: way they see it. No, it doesn't mean it's gonna

988
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 3: work out, right, Yeah, but that's not the way they

989
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 3: see it.

990
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just gonna be such a fascinating draft. I

991
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 2: can't remember a draft that I've covered it's been quite

992
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 2: like this one me either where it's just been so again,

993
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 2: there's great depth. There's like three hundred plus players that

994
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 2: have draftable grades on.

995
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,439
Speaker 3: Yeah. Again, that was a big thing Tod was saying,

996
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 3: said He's saying, I just think teams are just gonna

997
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 3: take the edge rusher and then we'll figure out the

998
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 3: other stuff later because I don't want to be I'm

999
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 3: gonna be pretty safe with a position of need. That's

1000
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,439
Speaker 3: a talented player that's not a super blue chip dude.

1001
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 3: He's even talking about the Patriots like they might just

1002
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 3: take Walker if they love him. You know, I don't

1003
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 3: love Walker, but it's better than it's your right tackles

1004
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 3: he left tackles her guard, you know, taking Tech McMillan

1005
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 3: in the top ten, being like see only Michael Pittman,

1006
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 3: you know, like that's fine, but it's not what I'm

1007
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 3: looking for.

1008
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 2: You're gonna get starters. You're gonna get starters into the

1009
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 2: fourth and fifth rounds in this draft. But are they

1010
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 2: difference makers? And that's the question the team's are going

1011
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 2: to have to ask themselves. And it really stands out

1012
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:05,760
Speaker 2: at the quarterback position.

1013
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 3: Absolutely. I mean, I think it's safe to say, Okay,

1014
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 3: there's only three blue chip dudes at two and three.

1015
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 3: We're getting one of them. But how far are we

1016
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 3: willing to go to get Shador Dart whoever? Are we

1017
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 3: willing to give up next year's first and an early second?

1018
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 2: And they's foolish.

1019
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 3: I hope someone is right, you know, right, I mean

1020
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 3: to get all the way to eight or nine, to

1021
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,240
Speaker 3: be in front of the Saints.

1022
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 2: Or straight up in front of the Steelers to get

1023
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:32,760
Speaker 2: rise quarterbacks.

1024
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 3: I have had it right, or hey, you can have

1025
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 3: twenty one for that price, you know, right. I don't know.

1026
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 3: I guess everyone's getting different pressure from ownership too.

1027
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely absolutely, But let's get to another break. That's

1028
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 2: going to do it for our number one of the

1029
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 2: Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt Now will

1030
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 2: be back with our number two of the drive right

1031
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 2: after this