1 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature, feature production of iHeartRadio. I'm your host 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology and evolutionary biology, 3 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: and today on the show, it's Creature. We we're bringing 4 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: you some spooky species, some foolish genuses, tales that will 5 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: chill you to the beat, and boat from undead fish, 6 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: tailor rodents and flying zombies. These real stories will send 7 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: shivers down your spine if you have one. Discover this 8 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 1: and more as we answer the age old question can 9 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: you still be fashionable? From beyond the gray? Joining me 10 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: today is front of the show, one of the maniacal 11 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,279 Speaker 1: minds behind the website one nine hundred Hot Dog and 12 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: co host of the podcast The Dogaga the Zone, Robert Brockway. 13 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 2: Welcome, Hey, thank you for pronouncing all of the letters. 14 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 2: Nobody ever does that, and I'm offended every time you did. 15 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 2: Forget nine thousand. We put a nine thousand on there 16 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 2: to make it extra hard. 17 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: To search, as anyone who listens to this podcast can 18 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: attest to them. I'm great at pronouncing things, especially Latin 19 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: names for stuff, and it comes out as a beautiful 20 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: letters and vowel. Salad from my mouth. 21 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 2: Doggus zonicus from the Latin for the area of dogs. 22 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, exactly. 23 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me for a spooky spook aween. 24 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 1: Spook aween. I should have called you rob Boot. There 25 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: it is. Remember when we all did that with our names. 26 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 1: That was fun. That was innocent times. 27 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,919 Speaker 2: That was Twitter right before uh, before it fascism. 28 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, a more innocent time. There's there's uh, there is Sean. 29 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: I guess I'll let them in. 30 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, just let him in. 31 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's here. He says he's here, 32 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: but it's just it's his ghost, his spooky ghost. 33 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 2: Oh, that's what he's doing. He's doing a bit. 34 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: He's doing a spooky ghost bit. I feel like we're 35 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 1: gonna find we're gonna like reading the newspaper that he died, 36 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: but he joined the podcast after he died. 37 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 2: Who was Shawn Baby? That's a game. I haven't heard 38 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 2: a ny on twenty years. There has been dead the 39 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 2: whole time. 40 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 1: There hasn't been a shop Baby here since the Great 41 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: Bloodening of nineteen eighty seven. 42 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 2: Some say you can still hear him out there on 43 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 2: that old innet. 44 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: What's this we've got. I'm sensing something it's coming through 45 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: through the fog of my seance globe with my crystal ball. 46 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: A figure emerges. Who is this? Is this the other 47 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: co host of the podcast, the Dogogacase his own and 48 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: one of the other maniacal minds behind the website one 49 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: nine hundred Hot Dog. Could this be the legendary ghost 50 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: whisper ghost Tickler shambaby dot com. 51 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 3: Yes, I'm I'm the legendary ghost tickler. That's what people 52 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 3: know me. Yes, thank you. It's a pleasure to be 53 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 3: back to tickle the ghosts. 54 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, well we we we are truly shocked. We reached 55 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 1: out to you through this sance. I thought it was 56 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: a scam, but here you are. 57 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 2: You have to do it in a ghost voice whole podcast, 58 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 2: ghost Voice, ghost. 59 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: Voice wherever that tickles Sean booms, sham boo, baby, Welcome, Welcome. 60 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: We are talking about spooky animals on this podcast, this 61 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: time on account of it being the spookiest Halloween of all. Thanks. 62 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 3: They like getting tickled. 63 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, the ghost Tickler on to catch a ghost where 64 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: they're like, hey, ghosts, why do you have a seat 65 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: over here? I'm gonna tickle you. 66 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 3: And then I'm like, uh this Semas for me. I 67 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 3: was here to show them the dangers of drinking six 68 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 3: semas by yourself. 69 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:18,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was good. Rest in peace God. I forgot 70 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: that guy's name, Chris Hansen. Chris Hansen, he's. 71 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 3: Still or were you talking about one of the predators 72 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 3: you're touching? Butts? That that was the man's name he 73 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 3: had I legally changed. Yeah, we all should have seen 74 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 3: it coming. 75 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: Ripping peace. I love those funny tombstones they put up 76 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: on Halloween where they're like ripping' peace mister. But yeah, 77 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: see more asses. 78 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, we got some of those in our neighborhood. 79 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 80 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 3: I meet a lot of squares now as a parent, Yeah, 81 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 3: there's a lot of You know, it's hard to like 82 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 3: pick your friends group when when all your kids go 83 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 3: to the same school, and so some of my daughter's 84 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 3: friend's parents are like, oh, yeah, I gotta see are 85 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 3: zany tombstones this year? 86 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: Have you ever have you ever gone to a haunted 87 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: house where they put out bowls of cold spaghetti and 88 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: they're like, ooh. 89 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 3: Too terrifying spaghetti. As a ghost tickler, I legally am 90 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 3: not allowed near a bowl of cold spaghetti. 91 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 2: Have you ever just busted the fuck up at one 92 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 2: of those tombstones, like you want to be too good 93 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 2: for it because you're a comedian, but then you're like, no, never, 94 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 2: classic clic. 95 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 3: The second I felt that coming on, I would kick 96 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 3: it over. 97 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: I split my guts open. And when I saw tombstone 98 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: and it said, uh, here lies the ghosts dead person. 99 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 3: Mister Butts, that one's pretty good. 100 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: That one's yes, that is good. 101 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 2: Today we are a square test and I caught both 102 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 2: to you. 103 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know, today we are talking about animals 104 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: who are spooky spooky ghosts. We are first going to 105 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,799 Speaker 1: talk about a fish that can do skin magic from 106 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: beyond the grave. This is based on a great article 107 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 1: in the New York Times by Elizabeth and Brown or 108 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 1: should I say Elizabeth and boo around. Okay, I'll stop 109 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 1: that starting now. So, this is a fish called the hogfish, 110 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: the humble hogfish it is. It is a fish that 111 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: can do necrotic skin magic. 112 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 2: So doing some hog hogskin magic on this fish. 113 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: Hogskin magic, uh, tossing the old hogskin fish around. So 114 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: hogfish are found in the Atlantic Ocean. They are a 115 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: species of wrass that is this sort of patchy cream 116 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: and rusty orange color. It is a boxy, flat, sort 117 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: of trapezoidal shape with long dorsal spines. It's called a 118 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: hogfish due to an elongated hog like snout, which it 119 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: uses as a shovel to dig for small crustaceans in 120 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: the ocean floor. They're not small fish. They can grow 121 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: to be around twenty five pounds that's around eleven kilograms, 122 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: and they can grow for three feet long, which is 123 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: almost a meter, So you know, they are interesting fish. 124 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: I have sent you a photo of this fish. It 125 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: is on its own, not that scary unless you're scared 126 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: of fish, in which case it is pretty scary given 127 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: that it is a fish. 128 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 2: Definitely definitely scared of fish, especially especially hogfish. 129 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, it does. The face is a little un settling, 130 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: you know, like that scene in Beetlejuice where Alec Baldwin 131 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: kind of like stretches his face out. It looks a 132 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: little like that. 133 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 2: He looks almost exactly like the guy that did piercings 134 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 2: at the at the Central Organ Mall in nineteen ninety seven. 135 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,239 Speaker 2: He's got the three little spikes, the weird beady eyes. 136 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 3: Big old that did your belly button. 137 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and amongst amongst other things. 138 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: Did he Did he do a good job or did 139 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: you get like a belly button infection? 140 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 2: Well, the belly button was fine. He actually did a 141 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 2: piercing called the hogfish. Ah, yeah, that's that's left over. 142 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 2: I lost some sensitivity that was big in the eighties. 143 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: So you know, this fish, it's uh, you know, pretty 144 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: typical fish stuff. But they can I mean, they're interesting 145 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: because when they are born, all hogfish are female, and 146 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: they are what is called a sequential hermaphrodite, meaning they 147 00:08:56,160 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: will change their sex as they mature, depending on environmental conditions. 148 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: So they become male when they become large, or when 149 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: there is a political opportunity such as there being no 150 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: dominant males in the group, and then they become they 151 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: switch their sex from female to male and becomes it 152 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: become a dominant breeding male. So you know, this is 153 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: so far typical fish stuff, very normal, very normal. 154 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 2: Stuff for Yeah, exactly, like mayor a political opportunity. 155 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 3: I used to do the same thing in the fraternity. Yeah, 156 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 3: sometimes convenient. 157 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: Look you know what they elect, they elect their mayor 158 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: and then it becomes sexually male. 159 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 3: So exactly, I triple in size, Yeah, I get much 160 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 3: more masculine. 161 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, get uh you start like, uh being interested in sports? 162 00:09:58,240 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 2: Is that? 163 00:09:58,920 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: Is that a guy thing? 164 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 3: What I like to do for my sports? I like 165 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 3: to take my snout and dig in the ocean floor. Yeah, 166 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 3: and then I'll eat crabs. 167 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, such a guy thing. 168 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 3: So with the. 169 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 2: With the bros. 170 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: So another interesting thing these fish do is they change 171 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: their color. They can change the color of their skin 172 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: in seconds, from say, being a patchy, rusty orange to 173 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: brown to white depending on their surroundings. Surroundings, they will 174 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: change the skin color. 175 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 3: I have a fish question. Can they mix and match? 176 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 3: Can you be like I'm going to be a rusty 177 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 3: lady today or a white fella? 178 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: Is? 179 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 3: Are you locked in? 180 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 2: Always easier on the white fellas, always easier? 181 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean they they're The ability to change 182 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 1: their color and their sex are not really super related. 183 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: They they can both change their sex and change their color. 184 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: Changing their sex is more of a like permanent thing, 185 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: a change that they will undergo if there is a 186 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: male power vacuum. Changing their color is something they can 187 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: do anytime pretty much, and they do it to camouflage 188 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: with their environment, so trying to blend in, so you know, 189 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: they they can't. Unfortunately, they can't like switch back and 190 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: forth between male and female whenever they want within seconds. 191 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: But that would be rad and it would be. 192 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 2: I love that it works, like like picking classes in Overwatch. 193 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 2: Like just nobody's nobody's playing Boy. Really, nobody's playing Boy, right, 194 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 2: I guess I'm not good at Boy. 195 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, we need one Boy. 196 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: We need one Boy. Does anyone want to play Boy 197 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: this time? 198 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 2: You know it's not fun. 199 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: I played Boy last time. It's your turn. 200 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:56,719 Speaker 3: First playing Overwatch. I was just this is just like 201 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 3: being a fish. Been there. 202 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, so they can change much about themselves. Again, 203 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: this is not like particularly unusual for a marine life. 204 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: There is there are a lot of marine animals that 205 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: can change their skin color, although this is not super 206 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: common for fish. And what is odd is that researchers 207 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 1: have noticed that hogfish are able to change their skin 208 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: color from beyond the grave. So this is where I 209 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: get spooky from a watery grave, because this is the 210 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: ocean and it's. 211 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 2: All water by rusty hog. 212 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: So a marine biologist Lorian Skware god no waker Laurian 213 00:12:56,000 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: Schweikert noticed a speared hogfish on the deck of a 214 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: fishing boat was still able to change its skin color 215 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: to match the deck of the boat, upon which it 216 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: wasn't paled. 217 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:14,719 Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah, did we check her for paint scientists? You 218 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 3: can't trust him, that's what they tell me in church. 219 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, there was, I believe there was. This must have 220 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: been in the eighteen hundreds or early nineteen hundreds. There 221 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: was like some experiment with like mouse skin, grafting skin 222 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: up from one mouse to the other mouse. But then 223 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: it turned out they just colored the mice with like 224 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: a pin, so they colored in black markings on the mouse. 225 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,359 Speaker 1: So that does happen sometimes. 226 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's where Steven Stagall learned his hair life. 227 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. He glues mice to the front of 228 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 3: his face. 229 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 1: Right, it's like face off, but you just kind of 230 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: scribble in those those Nicholas Cage eyebrows, face over your 231 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: own face, straw Nicholas cage face in sharpie on your face. 232 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 3: Special effects. 233 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, fortunately this seems to be absolutely real. She 234 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:13,599 Speaker 1: and a group, this marine biologist Laurence Swikert and a 235 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: group of researchers studied the skin and found that underneath 236 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: the chromatophores, so chromatophores are color changing cells. Underneath these chromatophors, 237 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: there's a cell type that contains light detecting proteins, So 238 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: this is the first time that light detecting cells have 239 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: been identified in the skin of a vertebrate, a vertebrate 240 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: being something that's got a spine. It is similar to 241 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: the light detecting cells found in the skin of cephalopods 242 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: like squid like octopus is clolefish, but this is the 243 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: first time these kinds of cells have been found in 244 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: a vertebrate, and the positioning of the light sensory cells 245 00:14:55,600 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: underneath the chromatophors may be strategic. So the chromatophor, these 246 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: color changing cells are typically a reddish brown color which 247 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: may filter out the abundant blue light in the ocean, 248 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: and by filtering the excess blue light, they may be 249 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: more able to accurate the light detecting cells underneath. The 250 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: color changing cells may then be able to accurately detect 251 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: the color of their surroundings with this blue light filter 252 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: and be able to better match the coloration where they 253 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: are and camouflage better. 254 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 3: And this works completely independent from like the fish that 255 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 3: it's living on. 256 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: This is what's weird, right, So after the fish dies, 257 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: even though the brain has ceased to function. These cells 258 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: continue to function for some time before cellular decay takes place, 259 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: so an effect, the skin lives on longer than the 260 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: actual fish. 261 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 2: So science says the skin it's haunted. 262 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: It's haunted, haunted fish. 263 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 3: Taken away from this. Yeah, so if I was to 264 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 3: make a tow pay of this fish skin, I could 265 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 3: have like hair that just changed color. Yeah, for are 266 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 3: we talking like hours, days the rest of my life. 267 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: I don't know how long your fish skin to pay 268 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: would last, whether it be hours or days. I would 269 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: say not that many days, and it would certainly would 270 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: offer a kind of unique perfume. But otherwise I think 271 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: it'd be very fetching. 272 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 3: But for a special night out, like it would last 273 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 3: through that for. 274 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: A special night out, Like, well, that's. 275 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 3: Good, it's good news. You're giving me great news, Kating. 276 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: You know, if you want a color changing fish skin 277 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: to pay for a special night I'm not gonna say 278 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: you can't do that. We actually have used fish skin 279 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: to treat burns in human beings. So like using fish 280 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: skin that has been especially treated, you know, and I 281 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: believe disinfected, and then you put the fish skin over 282 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: a burn wound. The fish skin helps to lock in 283 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: moisture and help with healing by being sort of a 284 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 1: a It's almost like a better bandage that is more 285 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: gentle on damaged skin. So you know, is there a 286 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: future promising? Right? Is there a future in which we 287 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: can choose instead of having like a wig or to 288 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: pay to graft fish skin onto our heads and maybe 289 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: keep it alive with our own blood supply without violently 290 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: rejecting it. Maybe we are going to take a quick 291 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: break while I called police, and when we get back, 292 00:17:51,240 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 1: we are going to talk about carnivorous mice. So you 293 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 1: guys remember that book Buncula about the vampire bunny. Yes, 294 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: that book was kind of unsatisfying to me because I 295 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: think it was like the cat was paranoid about this 296 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: vampire bunny and kept trying to kill it, but because 297 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: it's a cat, it was stupid. So it thought like 298 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: a steak meant like a surloin type steak, and like 299 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: put a steak on top of the bunny and the 300 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 1: bunny was like what And then it was like, hey, 301 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 1: you were too judgmental, cat. But also it's vague about 302 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: whether or not the bunny is a dracula, So I 303 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: don't know. I didn't understand the books so well. But 304 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: the point, yeah, the point is there are mice that 305 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 1: are basically like carnivorous vampires that are actually causing mass 306 00:18:56,280 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: destruction and killing innocent bird birds. 307 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 2: Can we prove those birds are innocent? 308 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: You know, birds are innocent until proven guilty. 309 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 2: Robert your nanny bird state ethics. 310 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: I'm a I'm just being justice simple bird lawyer. But 311 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: I thought in the country of the United States, birds 312 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 1: was innocent. 313 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 2: Toll prove all birds are guilty. 314 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: Actually, this is not happening in the United States. This 315 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 1: is happening and Marion Island, it's a small island south 316 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: of the tip of Africa. In the eighteen hundreds, French 317 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: seal hunters trapesed about this Marian island and went about 318 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: killing seals, disrupting things, making croissants out of like, I 319 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 1: don't know, seals, I guess. And they brought with them 320 00:19:54,960 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: French house mice who quickly started running around the island 321 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: and you know, making themselves real comfortable. And now they 322 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: are still invasive on these islands. Even though this island 323 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 1: is not inhabited by humans, it is still inhabited by 324 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: the mice. That the French sailors left on. 325 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 2: The island colonialist vampire mice. Yeah, no, word of mice. 326 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 1: No mouse is an island. But a bunch of mice 327 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 1: can be on an island and be vampires. So yeah, 328 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 1: I have a cross stitch live laugh vampire mice. So 329 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: warm weather has caused the invasive mouse population to explode, unfortunately, 330 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: not explode as in a fiery combustion, but to explode 331 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: in number. And the mice must compete for food with 332 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: a limited supply of plants and insects, so they have 333 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: started to devel up a taste for blood, for the 334 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: blood of birds. 335 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 2: Do anybody have a vampire mouse? Impressed? I don't have that. 336 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 2: I don't have that. 337 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 3: I a mose. I don't belong on this island. Blo. 338 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 1: It's me Mickey mouse spire, and I want to suck 339 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: your blood. And soon. 340 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 2: I'm going to suck your blood. 341 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: And then sue you. 342 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 3: Now and Francis. 343 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:38,199 Speaker 2: Litigious colonialist vampire mouse, you buly sue you, exploding ligous. 344 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 1: So yes, these mice, uh what I. 345 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 3: Said, Travian madam s. 346 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: Okay, So these mice uh want to feed on the 347 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: blood of these poor birds, These sea birds. There are 348 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 1: millions of sea birds who live and breed on the island, 349 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 1: including albatross. This school's king penguins, gintoo penguins, crawls, is shags, 350 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: and many more. Uh so a lot of sweet, cute 351 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 1: yeah penguins. 352 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 3: When you said they're drinking bird blood, I was like, 353 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 3: I don't care, go crazy mice. But now you're talking 354 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 3: king penguins. 355 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 1: No, now it's pain. 356 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 3: Something has to be done. Yeah, something has to be done. 357 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: There's something about penguins where it's like, I think humans 358 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 1: are so biased towards bipeds. We're like you, you walk 359 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: on your two feet, and you don't. 360 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 3: They're tummy, which is even cuter. 361 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: You got a tummy. Any any animal that has a tummy, 362 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: we empathize with animal. 363 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 2: Any animal that wears a suit, that wears a little 364 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 2: suits and you can dress up. Then you're you're okay. 365 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 3: My I mean every day is a black tie event 366 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 3: for these tummy sliding best friends. 367 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: I think the tummy theory is strong, right because some 368 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 1: of our most hated animals, like wasps, have the opposite 369 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: of a tummy, and so we don't like them. But 370 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 1: they got a tummy, then we like them. So, yeah, 371 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: these are cute birds and it's an important area for 372 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: them to breed in, and so, uh, the fact that 373 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: these mice have developed a taste for bird blood is bad. 374 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 1: And you might be asking, how does a mouse eat 375 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 1: a bird to death? Well, it does it very slowly 376 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 1: and horribly. So the mice will attack chicks or I 377 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: got this. 378 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 3: If they merge to form one man shaped mouse, yeah, 379 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 3: and grab it with its swarm of mouse, swarm of 380 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 3: mice mocking our human hands. 381 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: I like the logic of the mouse forming like a human, 382 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: giant human shape, Like it's they're like, what's what's more 383 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: powerful than one mouse? It's a bunch of mice. What's 384 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: more powerful than a bunch of mice? A human made 385 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: out of a bunch of mice? And then we just 386 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: punched the birds. Well that would almost be more humane 387 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: than what these mice do. So the mice will attack 388 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 1: these birds. They attack both adults and chicks, and they 389 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: will just chew away at the bird's skin over days. 390 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, like the mouse can just like chew away 391 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 1: at a bird. And the birds have not co evolved 392 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 1: with these mice, so they don't really know what to do. 393 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: And it's not like these are some of the more 394 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: how do I put this gently, These aren't the brightest birds. 395 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: These aren't like, you know, I talk a lot about 396 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: how smart parrots and corvids are. These are you know, 397 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 1: they're sweet, they are cute, but maybe they're not the 398 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 1: most intelligent birds out there. 399 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 2: And so how would these birds know that they don't 400 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 2: like their skin being eaten. They've never had the opportunity, yeah, 401 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 2: in their revolution, to have their skin eaten, so they 402 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 2: don't know not to like it. Of course. 403 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 3: I saw I think it was a David Attenborough special 404 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 3: where it was one of those snakes that has like 405 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 3: a bug tail, and so he's like wiggling his little bugtail. 406 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 3: Birds like, oh hey, look at that delicious bug. And 407 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 3: the bird comes over to get the bug, and the 408 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 3: snake bites it and totally whiffs, and like the birds 409 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 3: like did that did the back end of that bug 410 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 3: just turn into a giant snake and try to bite me? 411 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 3: And then it sat there hovering, and then it went 412 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 3: back to get the bug. Like that's how dumb birds are. 413 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, some birds. Look, we can't generalize to all. 414 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 2: Birds, but some birds hashag, not all birds. 415 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: Hashag not all birds, but yes, all all fish are 416 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: you know, like they they Yeah, But actually that that 417 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: snake you're talking about is a viper that lives in 418 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: the mountains of Iran. 419 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 2: And it's cool that I remember that on these birds. 420 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 1: It's cool I remember that about it, but I don't 421 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 1: remember the name of it. But it is a snake 422 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: that has a tail that looks kind of like a spider, 423 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: and then it wiggles it around and then a bird 424 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 1: will like be like ooh, spider, and then the snake 425 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: tries to get it, and it's like, oh, that was scary. 426 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 1: Ooh a spider, and then the snake tries to get 427 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: it again. 428 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. So it's super easy mode if you already have 429 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 3: a spider tail, I feel like you already have one up. 430 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 3: And then the fact that the bird does not care 431 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 3: if you like miss a few times while you're fighting 432 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:22,239 Speaker 3: at him. 433 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: Spooky, come on, spooky Halloween tip. If you just have 434 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: a bunch of like fake spiders in your pockets, you 435 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: can just throw them at people and escape, Like if 436 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: you're in a tough. 437 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 2: Situation and something the birds attack them. 438 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you're like, uh, spiders, Now you've got 439 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 1: spiders on you. Then you have time to get away 440 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: while all the birds try to eat those spiders smart yeah, 441 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: so uh yeah. The mice will basically just like sneak 442 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: up on a bird while it's asleep and start chewing 443 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: on its skin, and even if the bird like wakes 444 00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: up eventually, essentially the mice kind of breaks the Geneva 445 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: conventions like the the like they commit war crimes by 446 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 1: continually disrupting the bird's sleep until the bird is just 447 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 1: so exhausted that it kind of like it can no 448 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 1: longer like keep waking up and trying to knock the 449 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: mouse off, and so the mouse just like choose its 450 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: skin off. I have I've sent you a photo, the 451 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: most sort of the least gory photo I could find 452 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: of this of a mouse just sitting on one of 453 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 1: these birds attacking it. 454 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 3: But I get this dock. I'm actually really glad I 455 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 3: didn't get this. 456 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 1: It's it's a photo of a mouse sitting on the 457 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: head of an albatross chick. It looks like and what 458 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: it's doing is it is eating its scalp off. You 459 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 1: can't really you can't really see that in this photo. 460 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: But I have looked at the other photos where it's 461 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: essentially this poor little bird that's been scalped by a mouse. 462 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: Because like when I when I first read about these 463 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: mice where it's like, yeah, these mice like bite these birds, 464 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 1: I'm like imagining sort of just like little bite marks 465 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 1: on the bird. I was not imagining a bird just 466 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: having an entire chunk of skin missing in this like 467 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: really horrific way. So uh it is uh actually kind 468 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 1: of disturbing. 469 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 2: And yet in this photo, if you have kind of 470 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 2: bad eyesight, which I do, uh, it just looks like 471 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 2: a bird cosplaying is dan Rather it's got like. 472 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 1: A little just some hair piece. 473 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's just got like a real nice quaft, 474 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 2: velvety kind of poof. Yeah, are we sure it's not symbiotic? 475 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 2: Where like the bird just understands how good it looks? 476 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: Now are you asking? Was like if this is a 477 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: ratituy situation where the ratituy is actually eating its scalp 478 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: as well as helping it cook food. 479 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, with the ladies with like the bird. 480 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: Lady right with the bird ladies, like you know, yeah, 481 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: you goulnat want to go on to ask her what 482 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: her name is? Can I eat? 483 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 2: In an exchange a little bit. 484 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 3: Of skin surround de bergiak ratituy. But he's also eating 485 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 3: the human head. 486 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: Now that's the crossover I'd like to see. So, yeah, 487 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: they are a problem for these birds, and conservationists want 488 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: to get rid of these mice because, uh, you know, 489 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: they are actually a big threat to some of these 490 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: bird species on this island, and so they are trying 491 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: to They are going on like a big Tom and 492 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: Jerry style mouse hunt where they are they're they're they're 493 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: pulling out all the stops, they're they're they're, uh, they've 494 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: caught up Tom and been like, hey, Tom, what's some 495 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: of the ideas that they didn't let you use in 496 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:46,479 Speaker 1: those cartoons because they were so heinous. Uh, So they 497 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: are used. They are using poisoned grain to try to 498 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: kill these mice, which is tricky because most of the 499 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:58,239 Speaker 1: sea birds, while most of them actually eat fish, there 500 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: are some species that are more unnow wrists, so the 501 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: bird might eat the grain. So conservationists are actually collecting 502 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: the birds that eat grain, putting them in like protective 503 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: bird jail while they spread poison grain for the mice 504 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: to eat, and then once the once the mice have 505 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: presumably eaten, the poison grain. Then they release the birds 506 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: from from protective bird jail. 507 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 2: So I was writing that all birds are guilty. I mean, 508 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 2: and they go to bird prison. 509 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: Look, I said, bird jail, and you're still presumed innocent 510 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: when when you're in jail you know nothing of bird law. 511 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 2: You know nothing of bird law, you're born into it. 512 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,479 Speaker 3: So what happens? What happens if this doesn't work, if 513 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 3: the poison grain doesn't work, what's plan B? 514 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: Plan B? I don't know, Like I guess hammers. 515 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 2: See that's right, all the birds together into one big 516 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 2: bird to fight the big. 517 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: Mouse helmets for the birds helmets. 518 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 3: I feel like we've solved it. You take the hammers, 519 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 3: the birds have helmets. Just go crazy with the hammers. 520 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 3: Just drop hammers out a helicopters, do whatever you want, 521 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 3: because the birds have the helmets. You can't hurt a 522 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 3: bird right with a hammer. No, we're not onto something. 523 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 3: We'll get it. 524 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: Have like uh have like a movie that's like mouse 525 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: film film for mice. Birds aren't going to be interested 526 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: in this movie. Then all the mice go to the 527 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: tiny mouse cinema and then. 528 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 2: You go quick where you drop hammers on. 529 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: Then you go Quentin Tarantino on it. 530 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 3: What about rat terriers? They're so adorable and I don't 531 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 3: know if you've ever seen a rat terrier go to town, 532 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 3: But they'll just grab a rat, shake it till it's dead, 533 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 3: and drop it. That's they have no more interest in it. 534 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 3: They don't want to eat it or present it to anyone. 535 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 3: They're just bread to murder rats. So I guess you'd 536 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 3: need to breathe smaller terriers, Like how adorable would that be? 537 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 3: Like a mouse terrier? 538 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,239 Speaker 1: I mean, I think you know, a rat terrier might 539 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: go after the mice, not the birds. Might not be 540 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: a bad idea, that's for me. 541 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 3: You put cats in the island, the cats are gonna 542 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 3: kill the birds, right, crazy idea. 543 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: But a rat terrier, Yeah, there accountable. 544 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 2: Butting serial killers onto the islands to take care of 545 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 2: all the rat terriers. 546 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: Right, okay, So then, but how do you get rid 547 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: of the butting serial killers? Then you got to release 548 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: the flesh eating mice. Now you've just four chan. 549 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 2: You release a four chan onto the islands and they'll 550 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 2: all become preoccupied with it and will no longer venture. 551 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: Outside to kill makes sense, all right, We've solved a 552 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: good job, boys, Conservation achieved. We're going to take a 553 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: quick break, and when we return, we're going to talk 554 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: about flying zombies. They fly now, they fly now, they 555 00:32:55,120 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: fly now. All right, we're about and we're talking about 556 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: flying zombies. You know, I feel like you're against him. 557 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: I feel like the zombie genre, the zambre, has a 558 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: lot of like iterations of zombies, like these are these 559 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: are zombie Nazis. This is a zombie that you're in 560 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: love with. This is a storm trooper Nazi. Wait no, sorry, 561 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: zombies storm. 562 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 3: Trooper are too many hooks. Zombies have too many hooks. 563 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: A zombie Nazi storm trooper who you can fall in 564 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 1: love with, the whole zombie thing. But you know what, 565 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: I haven't seen I haven't seen flying zombies in movies yet, 566 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: you know, you know, like just a zombie that can 567 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: Superman around. 568 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think you're right. 569 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: That's the final frontier for just ringing every last drop 570 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 1: of content out of zombies. But there is actual zombie flies. 571 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: So probably a lot of you, and especially people who 572 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: listen to this show, or if you've seen or played 573 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: the Last of Us, you're probably familiar with Cordyceps fungus 574 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: that infects ants, and the ants go a little bit nuts, 575 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: a little batty, and then crawl away, and then the 576 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: cordyceps grows out of their bodies. Uh. And that's that's 577 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 1: all horrible. We've are We've talked about that before. But 578 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: I've got another one for you. Uh. There is a 579 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 1: different type of fungus that attacks flies. So the fungus 580 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 1: uh Intomothora mouse ski, also known as insect destroyer, infects 581 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: a variety of flies, including house flies and fruit flies. 582 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 3: I mean good, nobody likes those bugs. 583 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 2: I'm gonna sweet name. I can't be against it. 584 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, insect destroyer, Yeah. 585 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 2: No, just insect destroyer. I would if I was marketing 586 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,399 Speaker 2: for the fungus, Like, if the fungus hired me to mark, 587 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,919 Speaker 2: I would go with insect destroyer in like a heavy 588 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 2: metal font. Yeah, and I was I would really embrace. 589 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 3: If I saw destroy If I had a bag, My 590 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 3: wife thought, ah, one of those little plants that pitcher 591 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 3: plant the flies, and she's super pissed off that it 592 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 3: has not diminished the fly population. But if I if 593 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 3: I had a bag of fungus that I could just 594 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 3: release into the air, turn them on the zombies just 595 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 3: have three or four days of zombiesuretically, they would fungus. 596 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 2: That is how all zombie movies start, though you realize 597 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 2: that they're like if I could just release all of 598 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 2: this and get rid of whatever I want to get 599 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 2: rid of, then surely everything will Oh no zombies, Like 600 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 2: that's that is how you get zombies historically, Like, like 601 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 2: that's how you get ants. When you release sugar, that's 602 00:35:58,239 --> 00:35:58,919 Speaker 2: how you get zombi. 603 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: Either you can either put some red wine vinegar in 604 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: a cup and then put plastic wrap on the top 605 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: and poke some holes in it, or you can release 606 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,800 Speaker 1: this fungus. And the releasing of the fungus sounds a 607 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: lot more fun, although I feel like maybe by the 608 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 1: end of this you might have like a shred of 609 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 1: sympathy for these flies. 610 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 3: So first, okay, let's hear it. 611 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: Open your mind and your heart to the flies. First, 612 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 1: the fungus lands on a fly via spores. The spore 613 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: then invades the flies hemal lymph. So hemal lymph is 614 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 1: bug blood essentially, so the fungus feeds on the flies 615 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 1: hemal lymph and fat tissue. Then the fly's mind is 616 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: influenced by the fungus, and it is driven to climb 617 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:54,320 Speaker 1: upwards and upwards. Its body is riddled with the fungus. 618 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 1: Then it is induced somehow by the fungus. Now we 619 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 1: researchers don't know exactly how the fungus is doing this, 620 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 1: but the fly sticks out it's proboscis. That's its little 621 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 1: two blank mouth thing, the little like weird tiny elephant 622 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: trunk thing that flies have that they use to suck 623 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 1: up food. It sticks this out onto the surface and 624 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 1: it uses this like sticky saliva that is probably infused 625 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 1: with some kind of sticky fungal compound. And this drool 626 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,879 Speaker 1: actually forms like a glue, so it's glued from its 627 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: like by the mouth onto the surface that it's on. 628 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: And so now the fly is stuck. And then the 629 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 1: fly is for some reason compelled to extend its wings 630 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: in this like upright position that's kind of unnatural for it. 631 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 1: And now the fly has essentially become this fixed in place, 632 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 1: perfect substrate for the fungus to grow and spread. And 633 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:08,360 Speaker 1: just hours later the fly has grown this fluffy white coat. 634 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:13,479 Speaker 1: And this coat is actually fungal filaments which will grow 635 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:19,320 Speaker 1: spores at the tips. Importantly, the reason that the fly's 636 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 1: wings are now stuck in this like weird upright position 637 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 1: is to clear the way for the spores to fire 638 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 1: off of the fly's body. So now these spores that 639 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: are all growing out of the fly's body can basically 640 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 1: pop off like popcorn or fireworks and then hopefully land 641 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: on another victim who will go through the exact same thing. 642 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 3: Right, this is a nightmare. 643 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it turns It turns them into James Brown, kind 644 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 2: of like a you've been down, kiss the dirt, stick 645 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 2: your stick your legs up, stick your wings up. You 646 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:54,920 Speaker 2: put on a big white fluffy coat. 647 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 3: The other guy comes in throws a cape on you. 648 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 3: You throw you got more to. 649 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 2: Do, and that cape infects and creates other James Brown's, 650 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:07,359 Speaker 2: as we well know from history. Yeah, I'm on board 651 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 2: with this so far. I think this whip's ad. 652 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 3: Team Fungus. I think I think I'm. 653 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 1: Agreed Team Fungus. We're all team fungus. I would like 654 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 1: to see a zombie movie where basically a zombie just 655 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 1: sort of bites a wall and then starts growing a 656 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:30,880 Speaker 1: coat and sticks its arms out and like Superman position, 657 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 1: and then the coat starts like just shooting off spores. 658 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 1: That'd be fun. 659 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,399 Speaker 3: Would it'd be a bit if I saw that, I'd 660 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 3: be like this a bit much. Zombies. 661 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, it's a little dramatic. 662 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 3: It's a little hannibal lector it's like Writtner's The Majesty 663 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 3: of My Death. You're like, take it easy. 664 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 1: I feel like the groaning and the moaning is already 665 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 1: a little mill dramatic, Like we get it, you're dead, 666 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 1: but you're moving around, understood. 667 00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 2: I don't think you're gonna sell a lot of popcorn 668 00:39:59,480 --> 00:39:59,919 Speaker 2: at that movie. 669 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 1: Hmmm. If if the. 670 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:03,880 Speaker 2: Theaters aren't gonna like it, they make most of their 671 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 2: money off of that. 672 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, not gonna sell that. I like sauted mushrooms, like 673 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,800 Speaker 3: a nice cup of saw ted mushrooms. 674 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:12,360 Speaker 1: Right right. They're not gonna sell a lot of fungal 675 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,359 Speaker 1: spores at the movie theater, if you know what I mean. 676 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:17,919 Speaker 3: I'm a couple of spores here, get you a couple 677 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 3: of spores, cold couple spores. 678 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 2: I don't know why he's at a movie theater. The 679 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 2: all game was rutted down at the movies. 680 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 1: Now that's what that's what happens at modern cinema. Got 681 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 1: someone walking through the aisles, screaming, yelling, yelling, hot dogs, 682 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 1: get your three D glasses and your fule spores. 683 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,240 Speaker 3: Watch out for Nicole Kidman. Her hair is being blown back. 684 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:52,400 Speaker 1: Cinema, Yes, the magic of chinema. Well, so, yeah, this 685 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 1: is this is the fate of this poor little fly 686 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 1: gets turned into a mere vessel for the fungal spores 687 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 1: and it literally just has to like kiss the ground 688 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:04,919 Speaker 1: and die. 689 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 2: Zero empathy for the flies. 690 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 1: Still like flies, Still don't like the flies. It's because 691 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,400 Speaker 1: it doesn't have a cute little tummy, isn't it. 692 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,760 Speaker 2: No, it's because my adorable little dog is definitely afraid 693 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 2: of flies for no reason. We can determine that. I'm 694 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,239 Speaker 2: on her side. Yeah, so if I could, if I 695 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 2: could release this fungus and encourage it to destroy all flies. 696 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,360 Speaker 1: I do it for her, one of the few insects. 697 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:34,359 Speaker 1: I truly hate our tics because of them being mean 698 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:39,400 Speaker 1: to my dog. Like, I'm like, how dare you beyond 699 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:43,840 Speaker 1: my dog and hurt her? I will exact vengeance. You 700 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 1: will be contained in a bottle and drown in alcohol, 701 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 1: which sounds good, but trust me it's not. 702 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:54,879 Speaker 2: There are worst ways. 703 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 3: I guess it's. 704 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 1: Rubbing alcohol it's not like I drowned them in a 705 00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,240 Speaker 1: really nice sort. 706 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 2: Of we don't know have standards chocolate. We were all 707 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 2: teenagers once. 708 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 1: Uh. Well listen before we go, uh, and you can 709 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 1: go about your ghoulish uh daily activities. We do gotta 710 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 1: play a little game. It's called the mystery animal sound game. 711 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,160 Speaker 1: Uh I guess who's squawking? Every week I play a 712 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 1: spooky and scary mystery animal sound and you, the listener, 713 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 1: any of the guests, try to guess who is squawking? 714 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:33,799 Speaker 2: Uh. 715 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 1: So, last week mystery animal sound hint was this? This 716 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 1: ferocious wild carnivore would eat you if only it didn't 717 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 1: fit inside your pocket. 718 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,879 Speaker 3: I actually know this one. Yeah, that is a Hall 719 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,360 Speaker 3: of Fame pitcher Randy Johnson. 720 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 1: Ah, how did you know? 721 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 2: No, that's not maybe it's right in your pocket. That's 722 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 2: right in your pocket, little Randy. 723 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 1: Little Randy, little pucker, that's what the Yeah. 724 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 2: And he would kill you if he had the chance. 725 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 2: Be so thankful, be thankful. He's so weet, bloodthirsty. 726 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,839 Speaker 3: He did kill a bird that one time. 727 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,360 Speaker 1: Oh, with the ball? Was that when he hit a 728 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 1: bird with a ball. 729 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, he hit a bird with a ball, and. 730 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:24,760 Speaker 1: That bird Uh, presumed guilty before being proven innocent. 731 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 3: Yes, that bird bunch of trial, one appeal. 732 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:38,240 Speaker 1: Jury and bird secutioner. No, this is not that sports 733 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,279 Speaker 1: guy you just said. This is something else. This is 734 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 1: called the rusty spotted cat. 735 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 2: Uh. 736 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 1: It is the smallest cat in the world and it 737 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:53,240 Speaker 1: is totally it is like the size of a kitten. 738 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 2: Uh. 739 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 1: And yet it is a full grown wild cat. 740 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,440 Speaker 2: Oh my god, and you did not send us pictures. 741 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 2: I'm gonna google. 742 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,760 Speaker 1: Google it. You will be happy. 743 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:12,239 Speaker 2: He's so cute, a little round ears in the big eyes. 744 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:13,759 Speaker 2: And that's as big as they get. 745 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,359 Speaker 1: That's as big as they get. That's it. They are 746 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 1: found in India and Sri Lanka and it is absolutely adorable. 747 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 2: Why did we pick other cats to keep? Why didn't 748 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,560 Speaker 2: we just get this and we get this cat? 749 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean you know, I think we made a mistake. 750 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,759 Speaker 1: We need to go back in time and instead of 751 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,440 Speaker 1: using a time machine to like prevent some of the 752 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,400 Speaker 1: world's greatest atrocities, we should go back in time and 753 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 1: demesticate this little this little guy. 754 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,920 Speaker 2: I think that would prevent some of the world's greatest atrocities. 755 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,319 Speaker 2: I don't think Hitler would have done what he did 756 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,759 Speaker 2: if instead of the German shepherd, he had this tiny 757 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 2: little fella in his. 758 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,359 Speaker 1: Pocket, cat or this little cat was gonna kill baby 759 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,360 Speaker 1: Hitler Warrior. 760 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,000 Speaker 3: You could speak into Hitler's bunker with like fifteen of 761 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:07,000 Speaker 3: these in your pockets. Yeah, very nice to see you 762 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,840 Speaker 3: if you're and then boom, cats. 763 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,160 Speaker 2: Cover him, whip out your trench coat and they all 764 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,840 Speaker 2: just explode out of all the secret pockets of kiddies 765 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,239 Speaker 2: that you have, you have kmit inside of there. 766 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:20,400 Speaker 1: Yes, I mean they are. They are adorable. They are 767 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,760 Speaker 1: indeed sort of rusty and spotty. They've got little streaks, 768 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,880 Speaker 1: They've got little little white tummies. 769 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:29,960 Speaker 2: They look like they can't wait to hear a secret. 770 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, they look like they would sit on your shoulder 771 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:38,279 Speaker 1: and whisper in your ear, like like heal him, heal 772 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 1: him for me, and you do it. I would absolutely 773 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,439 Speaker 1: do if this little guy sat on my shoulder telling 774 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,759 Speaker 1: me to go kill people at his whim. Not gonna 775 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:49,759 Speaker 1: say I'm not going to do it. 776 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:52,560 Speaker 2: As long as they're all Hitlers. 777 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:56,319 Speaker 1: As well as it's all Hitlers, they're like, trust me, Hitler, there, 778 00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 1: you must kill it like that looks that looks like 779 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,239 Speaker 1: that looks like a normal person. No, definitely not. You 780 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:04,120 Speaker 1: should go kill him. 781 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,480 Speaker 2: God damn it, Randy Johnson. This is the last time, 782 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,719 Speaker 2: little Randy Johnson I have named my cat. 783 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:18,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, it likes to live in the forest. It 784 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 1: is very shy and in your pocket. No, Actually, that's 785 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,760 Speaker 1: a sad thing is it's extremely shy. Probably the reason 786 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 1: that the our cats were domesticated from the African wild 787 00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,799 Speaker 1: cat is that the African wild cat is a little 788 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:39,279 Speaker 1: more chill, a little more curious. This one is extremely shy, 789 00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 1: probably because it's so small. You know, it's like, I'm 790 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:50,799 Speaker 1: a little guy. I'm a little guy. I gotta be shy, understand. Yeah, 791 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:57,360 Speaker 1: it'll it'll eat it'll eat rodents, it'll eat birds, frogs, insects, 792 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,359 Speaker 1: and little one once. 793 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:03,920 Speaker 2: Now, if you showed me a picture of this thing 794 00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,239 Speaker 2: on one of those big penguins just eating its skin, 795 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:07,960 Speaker 2: I'd be much more compus. 796 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing. I'd be like, you know what, Uh, 797 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,360 Speaker 1: I'll let you have it. You can take over the island. 798 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,560 Speaker 1: So cute, I mean, that's essentially what we've done with cats. 799 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,960 Speaker 1: Though we we were like, you're cute. You can be 800 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,279 Speaker 1: invasive on this island, on this territory and kill all 801 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,440 Speaker 1: the birds and indigenous species here. 802 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 3: If we could develop as we saddle small enough, we 803 00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 3: could put that on the penguin, slides on the tummy, 804 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,120 Speaker 3: kitty cat rides in the penguin. 805 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:40,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what. Look, I know that it's been 806 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,400 Speaker 1: a mistake. Every single time we've introduced a species to 807 00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:49,720 Speaker 1: try to take care of another invasive species US a mistake. 808 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,840 Speaker 1: But maybe this time right Because it's so small, I 809 00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:56,480 Speaker 1: don't see how it's going to eat an albatross and so, 810 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,160 Speaker 1: but it's not so small that it couldn't eat a 811 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,520 Speaker 1: mouse that's eating an albatross. You see where I'm going 812 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,520 Speaker 1: with this. I know every single time we've done this 813 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:11,239 Speaker 1: it's had a terrible outcome. I think we should try 814 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:11,640 Speaker 1: it again. 815 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,399 Speaker 3: What's the worst that could happen? We lose some albatrosses 816 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 3: and get an island of adorable kittens. Yeah, just swarming 817 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:24,239 Speaker 3: with kittens, the only life form left. Yes, four feet 818 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,560 Speaker 3: deep wading through adorable kittens. 819 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,440 Speaker 1: And the great thing is there's no kind of saying 820 00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:33,759 Speaker 1: about like running into a folly that has anything to 821 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,080 Speaker 1: do with albatrosses. Like it's not like like when something 822 00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:41,839 Speaker 1: happens where it becomes a big problem for you. There's 823 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:46,120 Speaker 1: no saying that visa via albatrosses. 824 00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:51,080 Speaker 3: So they're saying, is uh getting a day terrific job? 825 00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:52,479 Speaker 1: Right, that's the saying. 826 00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,320 Speaker 2: So on, It's like my mom always said, like you 827 00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,480 Speaker 2: never trust, never trust a tiny kitten. The tinier the kitten, 828 00:48:59,480 --> 00:48:59,799 Speaker 2: the less. 829 00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:01,000 Speaker 3: It's what she says. 830 00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:02,040 Speaker 1: Is that what your mother said? 831 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:04,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, she had some medication problems. 832 00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,440 Speaker 1: Was this here, Like you came home from school one 833 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,759 Speaker 1: day and you're like, I got I gotta be on 834 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,439 Speaker 1: my math test and she's like, never trusting kids. 835 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:17,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have been looking for them ever since. These uh, 836 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,120 Speaker 2: these kittens that curse your math tests. 837 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:25,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Anyways, moving on to this week's mystery animals 838 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:30,520 Speaker 1: sound the hint is this when he's crabby, he's happy. 839 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:38,680 Speaker 3: Kawasaki crack chocket. 840 00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I usually have tried. I usually try to 841 00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,440 Speaker 1: be coy about it of like, maybe you're right, but no, 842 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:47,959 Speaker 1: you're absolutely wrong. 843 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,840 Speaker 2: I didn't get it the first history. 844 00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:51,279 Speaker 3: You won't be. 845 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:57,680 Speaker 1: Politeness is earned and boys, you haven't earned it. Ah. 846 00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:03,040 Speaker 3: So no that skateboarding walrus skateboarding walrus. 847 00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:08,680 Speaker 1: Closer, I guess, but you will find out the answer 848 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:13,880 Speaker 1: on next time, on this very show, on Next Creature, 849 00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:19,719 Speaker 1: on Next Creature feature Fellas, thanks for being on. I guess. 850 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,840 Speaker 2: That's the They usually cut that part in the podcast, 851 00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:27,960 Speaker 2: but yeah, we get that. We get that a lot. 852 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:28,440 Speaker 3: It happens. 853 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,960 Speaker 1: Thank you. 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