WEBVTT - NOW IT'S MAGA THAT CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHAT'S WRONG WITH TRUMP - 11.24.25

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<v Speaker 1>Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. For

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<v Speaker 1>the first time in more than a decade, the far

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<v Speaker 1>right and the far left and everybody in between is

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<v Speaker 1>in full agreement. None of us knows what the hell

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<v Speaker 1>is wrong with Trump, for sometimes when a cult leader

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<v Speaker 1>goes crazy, it actually can be a negative for the cult,

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<v Speaker 1>like oh now ish when the cult realizes that while

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<v Speaker 1>they usually love it when Trump goes crazy, this time

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<v Speaker 1>he's gone crazy for somebody else and crazy against them.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump was so smitten with Mayor Elect Zoran Mamdani of

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<v Speaker 1>New York that the disturbingly sincere looking grin on his

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<v Speaker 1>face Friday and the tone of sure, call me a

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<v Speaker 1>fascist friend in the Oval office was just the start

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<v Speaker 1>of it. By Saturday, he was dressing like Mam Donnie,

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<v Speaker 1>a neat black overcoat that fit him and a scarf

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<v Speaker 1>that enveloped his neck, and hair combed with something other

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<v Speaker 1>than a garden claw, and the overall appearance of somebody who,

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time in his life, had actually asked

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else for their advice about the overall appearance and

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<v Speaker 1>actually listened to the advice. Mom Donnie was somehow so

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<v Speaker 1>appealing to Trump that from Trump's point of view, he

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<v Speaker 1>might as well have been I don't know, Jeffrey Epstein.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember some far right commentators, not all, to be certain,

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<v Speaker 1>but some as close to sanity as say the Newsmax

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<v Speaker 1>level of Hell had almost expected that when Mayor elect

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<v Speaker 1>mam Donni arrived at the White House, he would be

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<v Speaker 1>greeted by Trump and Tom Homan and hooded ice Gestapo

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<v Speaker 1>agents on horseback who would fabricate some story about Mam

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<v Speaker 1>Donny lying on paperwork, and they would seize him, and

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<v Speaker 1>they would expel him or at least put him in

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<v Speaker 1>a prison somewhere. They are still all the way over

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<v Speaker 1>there in a probably chemically induced fantasy, a world cobbled

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<v Speaker 1>together from graphic novels and the worst streaming sci fi.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump instead thought he was Nito. At the same hour,

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<v Speaker 1>Marjorie Taylor Green was in a fact excommunicated by Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>She announced her quote resignation unquote from Congress effective in

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<v Speaker 1>January because a she realized Trump would not support her

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<v Speaker 1>and therefore the cult would not support her, and she

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<v Speaker 1>felt Trump had lost his way and done nothing but

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<v Speaker 1>to make America worse. The role of Marjorie Taylor Green

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<v Speaker 1>will now be played by Laura Lumer, and Laura Lumer

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<v Speaker 1>was so aghast about Mam Donnie that she asked why

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<v Speaker 1>she or any other maga should even bother to vote

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<v Speaker 1>in the midterms next year, to which I reply with

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<v Speaker 1>a manly supportive hurrah, you go girl. They do not

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<v Speaker 1>know what's wrong with Trump. Trump's malfunctions are usually a delight.

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<v Speaker 1>They are their joy, they are their reason debtre Yet

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<v Speaker 1>this makes no sense to them. Big strong men coming

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<v Speaker 1>up to Zorn Mamdanie and saying, sir, I like your coat.

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<v Speaker 1>Where did you get that coat? You mean? They can

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<v Speaker 1>actually make a coat bigger or smaller, so it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>look like it was dropped on you by a company

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<v Speaker 1>that makes tents and bouncy houses. The fascists are so confused,

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<v Speaker 1>so bereft, that not even the thrill of Trump advocating

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<v Speaker 1>for the hanging of the Democratic senators and representatives who

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<v Speaker 1>reminded the military they are obliged to not obey illegal orders,

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<v Speaker 1>not even that, not even that warm glow could last.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost as if he never meant it. Where are

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<v Speaker 1>the construction cranes with Democrats swinging from the hooks like

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<v Speaker 1>the Taliban or the Iranian lunatics to it. The far

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<v Speaker 1>right hates the Taliban and Iran, but they got to

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<v Speaker 1>hand it to them. You and I should not forget

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<v Speaker 1>the Trump threat. Representative Hulahan didn't forget the Trump threat.

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<v Speaker 1>She told Greg Sergeant. She actually filed a threat report

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<v Speaker 1>with the Capitol Police. And in the place where he's

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to write who threatened you, Hulihan wrote, quote the President.

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<v Speaker 1>She thinks some of her colleagues in that video, whom

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<v Speaker 1>Trump then threatened with hanging for sedition, also filed complaints

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<v Speaker 1>with the Capitol Police. On Trump and Trump, he just

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<v Speaker 1>drifted off. He just drifted off from the whole topic again.

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<v Speaker 1>He drifted off metaphorically to the edge of a river.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a wide river, to be certain, there's no indication

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<v Speaker 1>that there's any real way over to the other side.

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<v Speaker 1>But on the other side of that river there is

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<v Speaker 1>a land in which Trump resigns the presidency so he

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<v Speaker 1>can join the Zoran Mamdani administration as the ninety seventh

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<v Speaker 1>Building Commissioner of the City of New York, and they

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<v Speaker 1>give him an office and legos and blocks and a

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<v Speaker 1>big model of Manhattan, and you can move the buildings

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<v Speaker 1>all around and shit. They thought Mamdanni would leave the

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<v Speaker 1>Oval Office in chains. Instead Trump left the Oval Office

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<v Speaker 1>in love. I am not suggesting for a moment Trump

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<v Speaker 1>has been pacified, or he's mellowed, or he's not a

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<v Speaker 1>danger to every living thing on this planet every moment

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<v Speaker 1>of every day. I am, however, suggesting that between whatever

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<v Speaker 1>is wrong with him and now accelerating into an active

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<v Speaker 1>stage and this kind of second giddy childhood we saw

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<v Speaker 1>Friday with Mamdanni and a slightly new strategy from some

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<v Speaker 1>of his opponents, among all that there has been a

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<v Speaker 1>noteworthy change in the vibe. Mamdani obviously played Trump like

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<v Speaker 1>a two dollars ban Joe, and the sooner the Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>figure out exactly what he did in there, and basically

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<v Speaker 1>that was he flattered Trump by telling Trump that he

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<v Speaker 1>was often right and insightful and even he's seeming enemies

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<v Speaker 1>like many of Trump's ideas. The sooner the Democrats figure

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<v Speaker 1>that out and bottle it, the better for them and

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<v Speaker 1>for us. There was also a new strategy offered by

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<v Speaker 1>ABC and Disney. He attacked their reporter Mary Bruce during

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<v Speaker 1>the Mohammed Bin Salman photo op disaster dressing her down

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<v Speaker 1>when he barely knew who the hell she was, made

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<v Speaker 1>her the focus of his hatred of all media, and

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<v Speaker 1>at that moment, of ABC, perhaps because they are first alphabetically.

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<v Speaker 1>He then went on a series of tirades about Jimmy

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<v Speaker 1>Kimmel again, even though the last time he did that

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<v Speaker 1>he suffered one of the few, no doubt humiliations of

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<v Speaker 1>his presidency of intimidation. ABC and Disney and Bob Eiger

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<v Speaker 1>then tried something new. They ignored all of it. They

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<v Speaker 1>made a bland statement defending their news but not Mary

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<v Speaker 1>Bruce by name. She took the hit, and their network

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<v Speaker 1>and their staate. They defended them, but not Kimmel. Kimmel

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<v Speaker 1>then turned it into a joke Trump, I'll go when

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<v Speaker 1>you go. Otherwise, ABC ignored Trump, and again Trump moved

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<v Speaker 1>on while his cultists simmered where are the construction cranes?

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<v Speaker 1>It can be argued correctly, I think that, of course

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<v Speaker 1>ABC ignored Trump this time. Bob Iger had already tried

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<v Speaker 1>everything else, Bribing that didn't work, capitulating that didn't work,

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<v Speaker 1>Suspending Kimmel that didn't work, defying Trump that didn't work,

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<v Speaker 1>and frankly, Iigers out of ideas. They were just too

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<v Speaker 1>tired to actually try anything this time. Well, at least

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<v Speaker 1>occasionally apparently that works. I cannot describe to you diving in,

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<v Speaker 1>not wearing my best shoes as I have done this,

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<v Speaker 1>diving into the right wing streams. I cannot describe to

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<v Speaker 1>you how disoriented this has left his cult. Charles Gasparino,

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<v Speaker 1>the Fox Business commentator with the shortest fuse in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>watched the Mamdani event and wrote, I really think the

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<v Speaker 1>wheels are coming off the Trump presidency. Wow. Countless right

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<v Speaker 1>wingers were appalled when this Moscow composed twenty eight point

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<v Speaker 1>plan for Ukrainian victory that merely requires Ukraine to give

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<v Speaker 1>up everything turned out to be Moscow composed not just that,

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<v Speaker 1>but composed in Russian clumsily translated into English, complete with

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<v Speaker 1>backwards Russian conjugation, backwards conjugation. Rusky and then Marco Rubio

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<v Speaker 1>first told some Republican senators that this was not the

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<v Speaker 1>Trump plan at all, but the Putin plan written in

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<v Speaker 1>Moscow suggested deliver by the Russians. And then he said, no,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't, he didn't say that when he called to

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<v Speaker 1>tell these senators that, they say he literally said that,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, no, no, no, he never did that. He

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<v Speaker 1>meant it was a plan that recognized Russian desires. And then,

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<v Speaker 1>and then, and then Marco might as well have paused

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<v Speaker 1>for a moment and then run off camera again to

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<v Speaker 1>chug a small water bottle of Poland spring or vodka.

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<v Speaker 1>Apart from the implications heads Russia winds tails, Oh oops, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a two headed coin. Tails is also heads Russia wins.

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<v Speaker 1>Apart from the implications, the State Department and the entire

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<v Speaker 1>Trump foreign policy and operation looked like idiots, not just

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<v Speaker 1>internationally but within MAGA. And just to round it out,

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<v Speaker 1>when MAGA thought Trump had finally destroyed Ukraine and this

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<v Speaker 1>was final, he has come back with more of a stall,

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<v Speaker 1>this appeasement of Putin, who can no longer afford to

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<v Speaker 1>pay his own Russian troops. Trump says that's not his

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<v Speaker 1>final answer. Shrug emoji. Meanwhile, while they wanted Trump to

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<v Speaker 1>actually hang Mark Kelly or Chrissy Hulahan or the others,

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<v Speaker 1>the US military apparently did issue illegal orders last week,

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<v Speaker 1>and a bunch of military contractors went and put up

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<v Speaker 1>keep out signs marked National Defense Area three where the

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<v Speaker 1>Rio Grande River dumps into the Gulf of Mexico, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's hardly like ordering Pete kaboom hegseth to blow up

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<v Speaker 1>some mythical Antifa city Oregon. But it did become another

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<v Speaker 1>problem for MAGA when it turned out the signs had

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<v Speaker 1>been put up in Mexico, not in the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>And once again the entire Trump foreign policy and military

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<v Speaker 1>operation looks like idiots. Looks like idiots to MAGA. Could

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<v Speaker 1>it get worse? Oh? Why yes, yes it could. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>the outrageous twenty billion dollar bribe to Argentina. Re elect

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<v Speaker 1>that FOP president Wolverine or whatever his name is, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll pay your way out of the financial collapse he created.

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<v Speaker 1>That's gone. Now scaled it back a little, did we now?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe Trump will pay Malay maybe four billion to help

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<v Speaker 1>him with his debt payment in January. Maybe even the

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<v Speaker 1>domestic terrorism thing seems to have petered out. Cash Bettel

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<v Speaker 1>is now the subject of more investigations than he is conducting.

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<v Speaker 1>The latest The Times report that he sent SWAT teams

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<v Speaker 1>to protect his girlfriend the country quote singer unquote, presumably

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<v Speaker 1>to defend her against people who have heard her sing. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>a group of European has built a kind of Wikipedia

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<v Speaker 1>of ice raids and tactics and agent identifications. It is

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<v Speaker 1>in Europe. So who's Christyinome gonna arrest? The EU will

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<v Speaker 1>simply tell her Fu and the horse you rode in

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<v Speaker 1>on Christy. Moreover, the Guardian reports the FBI infiltrated a

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<v Speaker 1>signal chat of anti ice organizers in this country, and

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<v Speaker 1>nobody in Maga could object to that, except they got caught,

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<v Speaker 1>and they had to shut down the infiltration because they

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<v Speaker 1>got caught, and worst of all, worse than you can

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<v Speaker 1>possibly imagine, worse from the Maga point of view. Their

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<v Speaker 1>dream of dreams sending the military or ICE or Seal

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<v Speaker 1>Team six or somebody into New York City to be

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<v Speaker 1>the real rain that will come and wash all this

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<v Speaker 1>come off the street. Yes, they're not getting that. No

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<v Speaker 1>ice raids in New York, no military in New York. Maga,

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<v Speaker 1>you are getting the undiscussed, too terrible to contemplate, but

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<v Speaker 1>very real possibility that instead of the trumpest destruction of

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<v Speaker 1>Sin City, you will be getting Trump Attending Zoraan Mamdani

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<v Speaker 1>swearing in shortly after midnight on January first, Good to

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<v Speaker 1>see you see do you mind. I wore one of

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<v Speaker 1>your plain black suits and white shirts and them skinny

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<v Speaker 1>black ties. You know that Olberman guy used to dress

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Remember the wheels really are coming off. Charlie

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<v Speaker 1>Gasperino better hitch. I keep harping on Trump and Mam

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<v Speaker 1>Donnie's appearance, and this is not idle. Yes, Trump is

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<v Speaker 1>an endless front run and kiss ass. And he really

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<v Speaker 1>did even once write me a fan letter a year

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<v Speaker 1>before he declared me an enemy of the people because

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<v Speaker 1>I lived in one of his buildings and he used

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<v Speaker 1>to watch me on ESPN. He does that. There's no

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<v Speaker 1>such thing as time or consistency. Better still, for Mam Donnie,

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<v Speaker 1>Mam Donnie is somebody who literally cannot become what Trump

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<v Speaker 1>has become president, So he's no real threat to Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's something else, appearance wise that I noticed last week,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's really weird. But I've been thinking a lot

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<v Speaker 1>about this, Mam Donnie, Muhammad, Ben Salmon, jd Vance, guys

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<v Speaker 1>with beards, beards. Trump defers to guys with beards, full

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<v Speaker 1>prominent beards, big heavy beards. Think about this is not unanimous.

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<v Speaker 1>He sure didn't defer to Jack Smith's beard, and it

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<v Speaker 1>has to be a big beard. Not the beat Nick

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<v Speaker 1>fringe style that President Zelensky favors. Looks good on him.

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<v Speaker 1>But once you make a list of big beards that

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<v Speaker 1>Trump defers to, it's kind of hard to unsee it.

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<v Speaker 1>Vance Nbs, ma'm Donnie Howard Lutnick Russell, vote, Brad Barscale,

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's crazy dead doctor, Harold Bornstein, ma'm donnie owen uh

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<v Speaker 1>Beard's Donald Trump Junior. Which brings us back to the

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<v Speaker 1>great MAGA disillusionment. Steve Bannon doesn't have a beard. He's tried,

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't work, And right now Steve Bannon has the sads,

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<v Speaker 1>and not just because he doesn't have the beards. Late

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday night, Bannon reposted a screenshot from somebody calls themselves

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<v Speaker 1>Free be Speaker. It is a creed tour. Creed to

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<v Speaker 1>something Kerr means heart, ain't no heart in MAGA, and

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<v Speaker 1>this thing, whatever it is, sums it up. Right now

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<v Speaker 1>the Trump castle has collapsed and they know it. It is,

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<v Speaker 1>in essence, a note to Steve Bannon from freeb Speaker. Steve,

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<v Speaker 1>please let President Trump know what he must already know

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<v Speaker 1>that many of US MAGA supporters are heartbroken these days

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<v Speaker 1>watching him squander that powerful electoral mandate we gave him.

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<v Speaker 1>He won forty nine percent of the vote freeb speaker,

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<v Speaker 1>on which he executed so magnificently in the first months

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<v Speaker 1>of his term. Those are the golden years, the first

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<v Speaker 1>few months making nice with the vile Mandan. He is

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<v Speaker 1>probably understandable at this stage, but don't think many of

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<v Speaker 1>us fathom a Ukraine plan that puts the US on

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<v Speaker 1>the hook for that corrupt country security and enforcement, a

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<v Speaker 1>bizarre congratulatory meeting with the ISIS terrorist dictator of Syria,

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<v Speaker 1>an executive order barring every American state from protecting its

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<v Speaker 1>own citizens against the worst hours of AI, while he

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<v Speaker 1>enthusiastically promotes AI freedoms and subsidies and cozies up to

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<v Speaker 1>big tech CEOs who'll abandoned him in a nanosecond. His

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<v Speaker 1>seeming blindness through remaining america destroying immigration flaws like the

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<v Speaker 1>H one B VISUS scam you've exposed, and the flood

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<v Speaker 1>of Chinese student workers still in the US, all to

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<v Speaker 1>such cruel detriment to American workers. This guy's on a

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<v Speaker 1>bridge somewhere, any not to mention the seemingly endless delays

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<v Speaker 1>in justice for the worst the Deep State has done

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<v Speaker 1>to him and this country, although we cling to remnants

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<v Speaker 1>of trust in his overworked, understaffed DOJ. Yeah, overworked traveling

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<v Speaker 1>to see cash Betel girlfriend the quote singer unquote, I

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<v Speaker 1>doubt I'm alone after believing in his uniquely heroic intentions

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<v Speaker 1>for this country and supporting him since twenty sixteen, struggling

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<v Speaker 1>now to understand so much of what he's doing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, now they don't know what he's doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Without question, the political and social alternative is certain death

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<v Speaker 1>for this country. Yeah, they've been predicting this since twenty fifteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Hasn't even come close to happening yet. But go on,

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<v Speaker 1>But how can he expect his average MAGA voter to

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<v Speaker 1>stay warmly close to him when he appears to be

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<v Speaker 1>pushing him farther and farther out into the cold. And

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<v Speaker 1>if he doesn't remain the herculean mainstay of this country's

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<v Speaker 1>MAGA reforms, how can the feckless, cowardly GOP expect to

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<v Speaker 1>keep hold of Congress narrator? They couldn't. And how can

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<v Speaker 1>we navigate our way through the nasty GOP MAGA infighting?

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<v Speaker 1>Now Gurgley to the Service at the same time, we

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<v Speaker 1>put not our trust in princes. By the way, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a quote from Confederacy President Jefferson Davis. We put not

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<v Speaker 1>our trust in princes, but we have trusted that Almighty

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<v Speaker 1>God empowered Donald Trump to do the good, near impossible

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<v Speaker 1>things this country needs to survive. Please, Lord continue to

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<v Speaker 1>be with him. Well, they embraced Zamba and them zam

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<v Speaker 1>DONI didn't that indicate the Lord is doing his miraculous

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<v Speaker 1>works through Trump. Ah, that's where they are. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>understand what's happening. It's their turn. May they live the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of their lives not understanding what went wrong with Trump?

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<v Speaker 1>And sorry about your last point, freeb speaker. The Lord

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<v Speaker 1>cannot find Trump right now because Trump is busily trying

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<v Speaker 1>to find out if Zorn Mamdani plays golf. Remember a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of episodes back when I asked if it's actually

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<v Speaker 1>possible that when Trump said he did not know what

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<v Speaker 1>part of his body they had scanned in his MRI

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<v Speaker 1>last month, that he wasn't lying that he wasn't not

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<v Speaker 1>paying attention. I mean, how could you literally not know

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<v Speaker 1>which part the MRI was for. I mean, if you

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<v Speaker 1>were unconscious or sedated. Even after that, when they were

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<v Speaker 1>telling you how great your score was on your MRI,

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<v Speaker 1>like that's a thing, and how it was the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>MRI ever recorded, you'd probably just figure out what party

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<v Speaker 1>part it was, even unintentionally, How how how could that

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<v Speaker 1>not have? I forgot entirely about anosognosia ironic because basically

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<v Speaker 1>anopsygnosia is sophisticated, medically explained forgetting stuff. I have discussed

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<v Speaker 1>this before. What if he doesn't know what the MRI

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<v Speaker 1>was for, because whatever it was, he has anosgnosia about it.

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<v Speaker 1>In brief, this is the disease that makes it impossible

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<v Speaker 1>for you to recognize that you have a disease or

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<v Speaker 1>an injury, or that you've had a stroke, or that

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<v Speaker 1>you have, say just to pick one at random, Alzheimer's.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a brain injury. It is caused by a

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<v Speaker 1>variety of things, often by stroke, but other things cause

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<v Speaker 1>it too. Trump may not have had any idea that

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<v Speaker 1>he has some kind of cognitive illness and that they're

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<v Speaker 1>testing him for it. And even if somebody around him

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<v Speaker 1>had had the courage to tell him, he would a

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<v Speaker 1>not believe them, or he would instantly forget that they

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<v Speaker 1>had just told him, like if he had an MRI

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<v Speaker 1>of his brain to see if new Alzheimer's drugs are working,

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<v Speaker 1>he'd only remember the letter's MRI. The immortal David Dunning

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<v Speaker 1>of Dunning Krueger Syndrome once wrote the easiest to digest

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<v Speaker 1>example defining anosagnosia quote, an anosognosic patient who is paralyzed

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<v Speaker 1>simply does not know that he is paralyzed. If you

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<v Speaker 1>put a pencil in front of them and ask them

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<v Speaker 1>to pick up the pencil in front of their left hand,

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<v Speaker 1>they won't do it. And you ask them why, and

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<v Speaker 1>they'll say, ah, I'm tired, or I don't need a pencil.

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<v Speaker 1>And presidents have been studied for this exact behavior before

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<v Speaker 1>presidents and their pencils as latter day experts used new

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<v Speaker 1>medical knowledge a few decades ago to study the stroke

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<v Speaker 1>that Woodrow Wilson suffered while on his cross country tour

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<v Speaker 1>to try to sell the League of Nations to America

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<v Speaker 1>over the heads of a disapproving Senate. While all of

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<v Speaker 1>that has been studied and studied and studied, the conclusion

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<v Speaker 1>has now become widespread that whether or not he'd had

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<v Speaker 1>it earlier after the stroke in nineteen twenty, Wilson showed

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<v Speaker 1>all of the signs of anosagnosia. In the nineteen seventies,

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<v Speaker 1>the neuropsychiatrist Edwin Weinstein was granted access to Woodrow Wilson's papers,

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<v Speaker 1>and he wrote quote, following his stroke, the outstanding feature

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<v Speaker 1>of the president's behavior was his denial of his incapacity.

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<v Speaker 1>Denial of illness or ANO literally lack of knowledge of disease,

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<v Speaker 1>is a common sequel of the type of brain injury

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<v Speaker 1>received by President Woodrow Wilson. In this condition, the patient

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<v Speaker 1>denies or appears unaware of such deficits as paralysis or blindness.

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<v Speaker 1>To casual observers, anosygnosiac patients may appear quite normal and

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<v Speaker 1>even bright and witty when not on the subject of

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<v Speaker 1>their disability. They are quite rational, and tests of their

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<v Speaker 1>intelligence may show no deficit unquote, who in the hell

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<v Speaker 1>does that sound like? I don't know why they gave

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<v Speaker 1>me an MRI. Unfortunately, when on the subject of his disability,

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<v Speaker 1>President Wilson was anything but rational. His Secretary of State,

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Lansing, summoned the cabinet to a meeting to discuss

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<v Speaker 1>the crisis in Wilson's illness. And Wilson, or more likely

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<v Speaker 1>missus will Wilson forced the Secretary of State Lancing to resign.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctors who challenged President Wilson were dismissed. People who knew

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<v Speaker 1>Wilson before his stroke were eased out or denied access

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<v Speaker 1>to him. Wilson insisted until his death that while he

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<v Speaker 1>had had a stroke, it only affected his walking and

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<v Speaker 1>only a little. How the hell could you not know

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<v Speaker 1>what they stuck you in the mritube four? Well you

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<v Speaker 1>did know, but whatever is wrong with your brain immediately

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<v Speaker 1>erased it. Like a dream you try to remember as

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<v Speaker 1>you wake up, and it slips away from you, like

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<v Speaker 1>mercury on the floor, or like somebody was closing and

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<v Speaker 1>locking a door, keeping your dream away from you. So,

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<v Speaker 1>in addition to needing to worry about Trump having had

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<v Speaker 1>a stroke or flew into phasia or Alzheimer's or god

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<v Speaker 1>knows what, we also have to worry about him having

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<v Speaker 1>an illness that makes it impossible for him to ac

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<v Speaker 1>or even remember that he'd had a stroke, or fluent

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<v Speaker 1>aphasia or Alzheimer's, or even just the MRI to test

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<v Speaker 1>for it. No, the MRI was for my toenails. I

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<v Speaker 1>have ingrown toenails and not really bad ones. I got

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<v Speaker 1>a great score on my ingrown Toenail MRI and so

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<v Speaker 1>now in some for the first time in his dictatorship,

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<v Speaker 1>none of us haters, lovers, supporters, Mam Danny's, none of

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<v Speaker 1>us know what the hell is wrong with this guy Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>And if he has annosagnosia, he does know what's wrong

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<v Speaker 1>with him. But he just forgot it again, and yet

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<v Speaker 1>he remembers he likes Mom Daddy. I can also guess

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<v Speaker 1>that he did not read this weekend's worth of Olivia Newsy,

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Lizza, Robert F. Kennedy Junior News, because if he had,

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<v Speaker 1>even Trump would have fired Kennedy by now already today,

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<v Speaker 1>because Kennedy is now a clear and present danger to

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's presidency, because Kennedy is scandal plagued and sloppy and

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<v Speaker 1>nuts and he is in some way involved with a

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<v Speaker 1>woman who may be nuttier than he is. If you

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<v Speaker 1>read the updates on my ex over the weekend, I

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<v Speaker 1>hope your stomach has settled down. I am not going

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<v Speaker 1>to even reference the Kennedy love poetry to Olivia about

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<v Speaker 1>his uh, well, what was it? Sterling Hayden called it

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<v Speaker 1>in Doctor Strangelove his life essence, Man Drake the purity

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<v Speaker 1>of his life essence. I deny them my life essence.

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<v Speaker 1>What I am going to reference, though, is the important part,

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<v Speaker 1>which is Ryan Lizz's assertion no evidence yet presented that

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<v Speaker 1>Olivia Newsey ran catch and kill operations to barry scandals

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<v Speaker 1>about Robert F. Kennedy Junior while she was employed by

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<v Speaker 1>New York Magazine for more than a year before the election,

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<v Speaker 1>and Liz's further insistence that Newsy told him that if

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<v Speaker 1>anybody found out about her and Kennedy quote, I'm afraid

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<v Speaker 1>Bobby will kill me. You can skip this next half

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<v Speaker 1>hour update after the break, you can proceed directly to

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<v Speaker 1>the C block and Worse Persons. If not, get a

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<v Speaker 1>drink and pull up a chair and join me. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the news of Newsy and it's a doozy that's next.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Countdown.

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<v Speaker 2>Among his other credits, Moe used to host a TV

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<v Speaker 2>show called Things I Hate About You. I'm sure I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen that program, only I believe it's now called Countdown

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<v Speaker 2>with Keith Overman.

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<v Speaker 1>Still ahead, Worse Persons and Ted Turner's dream used to

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<v Speaker 1>be when I worked for him one hundred and fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>years ago was to buy CBS News, in fact, buy

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<v Speaker 1>all of CBS and merge it into CNN to show

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<v Speaker 1>television that in nineteen eighty two cable was already boss.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's Larry Ellison's dreamed by CNN and merge it

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<v Speaker 1>into CBS to show the world that Trump is boss

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<v Speaker 1>and decides who's on CNN and who isn't, holding anchors

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<v Speaker 1>hostage ahead in Worse Persons, But first postscripts to the news,

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<v Speaker 1>some headlines, some updates, some snark, count down podcast, and

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<v Speaker 1>these are the places where there's news. Dateline, the Department

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<v Speaker 1>of Health and Human Services, The New York Times with

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<v Speaker 1>bad timing Friday night, putting out a story that was

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<v Speaker 1>at least a week in the making about Liza Newsy

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<v Speaker 1>and RFK Junior and that character who gets killed in

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<v Speaker 1>the first scene me and Liza getting up in Newsy's busy.

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<v Speaker 1>And three hours after they posted the article, Ryan Liza

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<v Speaker 1>dropped part two of his expose on his ex fiance,

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<v Speaker 1>making the Times peace completely outdated and more importantly, turning

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<v Speaker 1>this from a grotesque but tremendously entertaining saga of a

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<v Speaker 1>disturbed woman I used to live with and the rapidly

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<v Speaker 1>disappearing schmuck she used to live with and serially cheat

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<v Speaker 1>on with politicians as old or older than I am

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<v Speaker 1>transforming that lighthearted enterprise into something that should eventually put

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<v Speaker 1>Robert F. Kennedy Junior in prison, and should more immediately

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<v Speaker 1>precipitate an investigation of New York Magazine. If what Ryan

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<v Speaker 1>Liza writes is true, don't worry. There's lots of gossip

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<v Speaker 1>gold to review, and I will. And if this is

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<v Speaker 1>not your cup of tea, feel free to hit stop

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<v Speaker 1>or scoot forward. Worst persons is after the next break.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's the real headline deep in part two of Liza,

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<v Speaker 1>which you put behind a paywall. See if you hear

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<v Speaker 1>the headline as it goes by quote. I have never

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<v Speaker 1>been able to convey Olivia's near total obsession with Bobby properly.

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<v Speaker 1>What I can say with authority is that it seeped

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<v Speaker 1>into every corner of her life, affected every relationship she had,

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<v Speaker 1>and drove every decision she made in late twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>three and all of twenty twenty four, including her catch

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<v Speaker 1>and kill operations on his behalf, the campaign strategy memos

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<v Speaker 1>she wrote him and the other journalistic transgressions that have

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<v Speaker 1>still not been disclosed. For me, it was like waking

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<v Speaker 1>up and learning she was a heroin addict or had

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<v Speaker 1>joy Way Way Wait wait wait wait wait.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait wait.

0:33:27.595 --> 0:33:31.675
<v Speaker 1>Say that part again, heroin addict? No no, no, no no.

0:33:32.075 --> 0:33:36.435
<v Speaker 1>The part about catch and kill, Oh yeah, drove every

0:33:36.475 --> 0:33:38.115
<v Speaker 1>decision she made in late twenty twenty three and all

0:33:38.155 --> 0:33:41.955
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four, including her catch and kill operations on

0:33:41.995 --> 0:33:50.395
<v Speaker 1>his behalf. Catch and kill the way the Weekly World

0:33:50.555 --> 0:33:52.875
<v Speaker 1>Pro Trump News or whatever it was called, used to

0:33:52.875 --> 0:33:57.435
<v Speaker 1>buy stories to either use to blackmail on Trump's behalf

0:33:57.635 --> 0:34:02.795
<v Speaker 1>or to keep Trump from getting bad publicity during the campaign.

0:34:03.835 --> 0:34:09.395
<v Speaker 1>That kind of catch and kill. Olivia did this with

0:34:09.475 --> 0:34:15.315
<v Speaker 1>whose money? She did catch and kill operations in twenty

0:34:15.315 --> 0:34:17.955
<v Speaker 1>twenty three, late twenty twenty three, he says, and twenty

0:34:17.995 --> 0:34:20.995
<v Speaker 1>twenty four, all of twenty twenty four, he emphasizes. All

0:34:21.035 --> 0:34:23.435
<v Speaker 1>of twenty twenty four. She was still employed by New

0:34:23.515 --> 0:34:27.115
<v Speaker 1>York Magazine until the story broke in September of twenty

0:34:27.115 --> 0:34:32.435
<v Speaker 1>twenty four. That's not good for New York Magazine. They were,

0:34:32.475 --> 0:34:37.795
<v Speaker 1>at best an unknowing base of catch and kill operations

0:34:37.835 --> 0:34:41.795
<v Speaker 1>on behalf of Robert F. Kennedy Juniors, presumably still his

0:34:41.835 --> 0:34:46.195
<v Speaker 1>presidential campaign. They published an article which in retrospect is

0:34:46.275 --> 0:34:51.235
<v Speaker 1>clearly designed to help him and authenticate him. We know

0:34:51.355 --> 0:34:54.195
<v Speaker 1>that now just from reading it. You could see it then.

0:34:54.515 --> 0:34:57.475
<v Speaker 1>And the other part of this is Ryan Lisen knew

0:34:57.515 --> 0:34:59.795
<v Speaker 1>about this. I mean, he doesn't come out and say

0:34:59.875 --> 0:35:02.715
<v Speaker 1>I knew about this, except he does say he did

0:35:02.795 --> 0:35:04.875
<v Speaker 1>live with her, and it seeped into every corner of

0:35:04.915 --> 0:35:09.155
<v Speaker 1>her life. And and he kept this secret for in

0:35:09.155 --> 0:35:11.115
<v Speaker 1>some cases, let's seen late twenty twenty three, it's not

0:35:11.315 --> 0:35:13.355
<v Speaker 1>late twenty twenty five, so some of this is two

0:35:13.435 --> 0:35:16.875
<v Speaker 1>years old. Ryan, And and you kept this secret as

0:35:16.915 --> 0:35:21.395
<v Speaker 1>he ran for president and and and affected some of

0:35:21.435 --> 0:35:24.075
<v Speaker 1>the voting patterns as they developed in the twenty twenty

0:35:24.075 --> 0:35:28.835
<v Speaker 1>four election, and then was named to destroy a vaccine

0:35:28.875 --> 0:35:32.595
<v Speaker 1>safety in this country and generally put as many crackpot

0:35:32.915 --> 0:35:36.715
<v Speaker 1>ideas in an attempt to restore the medical stature of

0:35:37.075 --> 0:35:40.875
<v Speaker 1>medieval barbers from the fifteenth century this Ky and you

0:35:41.355 --> 0:35:43.595
<v Speaker 1>and you kept it secret so you could charge us

0:35:43.675 --> 0:35:50.035
<v Speaker 1>eight dollars to read about it later. It's not good

0:35:50.035 --> 0:35:55.555
<v Speaker 1>for you, Ryan Lizzon. My complaints about him actually have

0:35:55.835 --> 0:35:59.635
<v Speaker 1>like are one percent to do with the fact that

0:35:59.635 --> 0:36:03.115
<v Speaker 1>that relationship followed my relationship with her. I think that's human.

0:36:03.395 --> 0:36:08.395
<v Speaker 1>Ninety nine percent of it either precedes my knowing Olivia Newsy,

0:36:08.595 --> 0:36:11.475
<v Speaker 1>and it's just about how bad and overrated a journalist

0:36:11.475 --> 0:36:14.675
<v Speaker 1>he was. And I'm in a perverse way glad to

0:36:14.675 --> 0:36:18.275
<v Speaker 1>see that it has been restored that my opinion of

0:36:18.315 --> 0:36:23.275
<v Speaker 1>him was correct. No, I know about this terrible situation

0:36:23.395 --> 0:36:25.995
<v Speaker 1>in which people are catching and killing bad stories about

0:36:26.075 --> 0:36:28.515
<v Speaker 1>Robert F. Kennedy Junior. And I'm not going to tell

0:36:28.555 --> 0:36:31.595
<v Speaker 1>anybody till after the election, a year into his role

0:36:31.915 --> 0:36:35.235
<v Speaker 1>as the head of the Department of Health and Human Services,

0:36:36.075 --> 0:36:39.475
<v Speaker 1>as he slashes millions of dollars from cancer research that

0:36:39.675 --> 0:36:42.555
<v Speaker 1>is in fact going to lead probably to the death

0:36:42.555 --> 0:36:47.075
<v Speaker 1>of his fatally ill cousin, the mother of two small children.

0:36:50.195 --> 0:36:54.675
<v Speaker 1>And you apparently knew. Here's something else, a little bit

0:36:54.755 --> 0:36:59.315
<v Speaker 1>lighter than that quote. As she left, I said something

0:36:59.315 --> 0:37:03.835
<v Speaker 1>that would have enormous ramifications going forward. People are going

0:37:03.875 --> 0:37:06.355
<v Speaker 1>to ask me what happen, I told Olivia, and I'm

0:37:06.355 --> 0:37:11.475
<v Speaker 1>going to tell the truth. I was faced with a

0:37:11.515 --> 0:37:14.555
<v Speaker 1>similar question, by the way, and I said, people are

0:37:14.595 --> 0:37:16.035
<v Speaker 1>going to ask me what happened, And I'm not going

0:37:16.115 --> 0:37:22.355
<v Speaker 1>to say shit, and I didn't for nine years. There

0:37:22.355 --> 0:37:25.715
<v Speaker 1>have been questions about my commenting at all about this story.

0:37:26.355 --> 0:37:30.035
<v Speaker 1>You did not know that I had a relationship with

0:37:30.075 --> 0:37:32.995
<v Speaker 1>olbya Newsy let alone that she lived with me from

0:37:33.035 --> 0:37:36.515
<v Speaker 1>the time she was I think it's fair to say

0:37:36.595 --> 0:37:39.435
<v Speaker 1>almost like within weeks of her nineteenth birthday was when

0:37:39.435 --> 0:37:42.395
<v Speaker 1>she kind of started to move stuff in. She lived

0:37:42.395 --> 0:37:48.275
<v Speaker 1>with me from ages nineteen through twenty three. You know

0:37:48.515 --> 0:37:54.635
<v Speaker 1>she'd already turned twenty four. Yeah, twenty three. I'm sorry,

0:37:54.675 --> 0:37:58.275
<v Speaker 1>I got that number wrong. Nineteen to twenty three and

0:37:58.315 --> 0:38:00.875
<v Speaker 1>I didn't tell anybody anything until the New York Post

0:38:00.875 --> 0:38:02.755
<v Speaker 1>called and said, we understand you used to date, at

0:38:02.755 --> 0:38:04.115
<v Speaker 1>which point, well, I'm not going to let the New

0:38:04.195 --> 0:38:06.875
<v Speaker 1>York Post scoop me on this story. The cat's out

0:38:06.915 --> 0:38:09.155
<v Speaker 1>of the bag. I'm not going to let somebody else

0:38:09.195 --> 0:38:13.115
<v Speaker 1>have the cat, as it were. And then I didn't

0:38:13.115 --> 0:38:16.715
<v Speaker 1>bring myself into the Liza mix. He put me in

0:38:16.795 --> 0:38:20.875
<v Speaker 1>his sub stack story. Anyway, people are going to ask

0:38:20.915 --> 0:38:24.475
<v Speaker 1>me what happened I told Olivia, and I'm not gonna

0:38:24.475 --> 0:38:27.395
<v Speaker 1>say shit, that's not what Ryan Lizzie says here. People

0:38:27.395 --> 0:38:30.395
<v Speaker 1>are going to ask me what happened, Ryan Liza told Olivia,

0:38:30.475 --> 0:38:33.835
<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to tell the truth. She seemed paralyzed

0:38:33.875 --> 0:38:37.435
<v Speaker 1>with fear, he writes, and frankly, I didn't understand why.

0:38:38.195 --> 0:38:39.915
<v Speaker 1>It was only later, when we were deep into what

0:38:39.915 --> 0:38:42.515
<v Speaker 1>would become weeks of conversations about every detail of what

0:38:42.595 --> 0:38:45.915
<v Speaker 1>transpired between her and Bobby, who had told her that

0:38:45.995 --> 0:38:50.955
<v Speaker 1>he demanded discipline and fearlessness and at times total submission,

0:38:51.315 --> 0:38:56.275
<v Speaker 1>that she explained her terrified reaction that August morning. If

0:38:56.315 --> 0:39:00.875
<v Speaker 1>anyone ever finds out, Olivia told me quote, I'm afraid

0:39:01.075 --> 0:39:07.715
<v Speaker 1>Bobby will kill me unquote. Two things. I'll remind you

0:39:07.795 --> 0:39:12.795
<v Speaker 1>that she told me in probably twenty fourteen, yes, maybe

0:39:12.835 --> 0:39:15.275
<v Speaker 1>twenty thirteen, that whenever she would go to Washington, this

0:39:15.315 --> 0:39:18.915
<v Speaker 1>guy Ryan Wizza was stalking her. I don't think whatever

0:39:18.955 --> 0:39:22.515
<v Speaker 1>he did actually qualified as stalking. She later clearly used

0:39:22.515 --> 0:39:24.995
<v Speaker 1>the same term about me to him, and what I

0:39:25.035 --> 0:39:28.195
<v Speaker 1>did to her did not come remotely close to stalking.

0:39:28.675 --> 0:39:32.515
<v Speaker 1>So the idea that somehow Bobby Kennedy was going to

0:39:32.595 --> 0:39:35.915
<v Speaker 1>kill her seems a little seems a little more consistent

0:39:35.995 --> 0:39:40.475
<v Speaker 1>with her oh exaggeration and pitting herself in a physition

0:39:40.555 --> 0:39:43.675
<v Speaker 1>in which her guy has to believe that she is

0:39:43.715 --> 0:39:47.195
<v Speaker 1>in some sort of serious danger and must rescue her

0:39:47.235 --> 0:39:51.075
<v Speaker 1>from this rather than Bobby Kennedy planned to have Olivia

0:39:51.155 --> 0:39:54.875
<v Speaker 1>Newsy killed. But quote, if anyone ever finds out, Olivia

0:39:54.915 --> 0:39:57.555
<v Speaker 1>told me, I'm afraid Bobby will kill me, which sets

0:39:57.635 --> 0:40:00.915
<v Speaker 1>up part three, which he's hinted at before, in which

0:40:00.955 --> 0:40:03.155
<v Speaker 1>he mentioned that there was a plot that he claims

0:40:03.195 --> 0:40:06.755
<v Speaker 1>Newsy engaged with to send him to prison with the

0:40:06.795 --> 0:40:11.395
<v Speaker 1>help of the Trump administration or with the help then

0:40:11.515 --> 0:40:16.115
<v Speaker 1>of the Trump people. Last year, there was a story

0:40:16.115 --> 0:40:18.075
<v Speaker 1>about her going to the FBI and trying to get

0:40:18.115 --> 0:40:21.915
<v Speaker 1>Ryan Lizza arrested for accessing her phone. That's not the

0:40:21.955 --> 0:40:25.595
<v Speaker 1>story that he tells. He claims he accessed stuff that

0:40:25.715 --> 0:40:29.755
<v Speaker 1>fell out of her book bag on the floor. Now

0:40:29.755 --> 0:40:33.715
<v Speaker 1>about the Mark Sandford story, quote, Olivia had written a

0:40:33.755 --> 0:40:37.315
<v Speaker 1>tabloid style news story about how sources in Washington, d C.

0:40:37.835 --> 0:40:42.035
<v Speaker 1>And Charleston have been buzzing recently about an unexpected romance

0:40:42.435 --> 0:40:45.715
<v Speaker 1>Mark Sandford and Olivia Newzy, who was described as one

0:40:45.755 --> 0:40:48.795
<v Speaker 1>of the most famous political reporters in America, A blonde

0:40:48.835 --> 0:40:52.515
<v Speaker 1>beauty who gained critical acclaim as a skilled profile writer,

0:40:52.795 --> 0:40:56.075
<v Speaker 1>gaining access to the powerful and the mysterious, and turning

0:40:56.075 --> 0:41:01.875
<v Speaker 1>it into pure journalistic gold. The Sanford story. When did

0:41:01.915 --> 0:41:04.235
<v Speaker 1>she go see him? Did she have a long running

0:41:04.235 --> 0:41:07.675
<v Speaker 1>affair with him? Was it one night's stand? Who knows?

0:41:07.995 --> 0:41:11.955
<v Speaker 1>He writes about it in detail. It's about as interesting

0:41:12.075 --> 0:41:18.675
<v Speaker 1>as my romantic life with her. You don't care, I

0:41:18.715 --> 0:41:21.155
<v Speaker 1>guess I care. I don't care as much as I

0:41:21.195 --> 0:41:25.755
<v Speaker 1>cared then In any event, she wrote a fake article

0:41:25.835 --> 0:41:29.515
<v Speaker 1>that he found about herself in the third person and

0:41:29.555 --> 0:41:33.755
<v Speaker 1>her I mean reading like something out of an eight

0:41:33.835 --> 0:41:38.835
<v Speaker 1>year old diary, an eight year old's diary, Olivia told me,

0:41:38.875 --> 0:41:40.875
<v Speaker 1>he goes on. She wrote the fake article as an

0:41:40.915 --> 0:41:43.355
<v Speaker 1>exercise to think through what might be the worst that

0:41:43.395 --> 0:41:46.995
<v Speaker 1>could be said publicly if the affair became known, though

0:41:47.035 --> 0:41:49.795
<v Speaker 1>that didn't really make sense to me given the pieces tone.

0:41:49.955 --> 0:41:54.795
<v Speaker 1>You think pure journalistic gold. I'm terrified someone might accuse

0:41:54.835 --> 0:41:58.835
<v Speaker 1>me of being beautiful and skilled, the most skilled profile,

0:41:59.035 --> 0:42:03.395
<v Speaker 1>the most famous political reporter in America. Her fantasizing about

0:42:03.435 --> 0:42:05.395
<v Speaker 1>what it would be like when her secret relationship with

0:42:05.435 --> 0:42:09.595
<v Speaker 1>a notorious politician finally became public would repeat itself during

0:42:09.675 --> 0:42:12.235
<v Speaker 1>her affair with Bobby. So he's now setting up again

0:42:12.275 --> 0:42:17.155
<v Speaker 1>the third episode, in which in which he reveals that

0:42:17.315 --> 0:42:20.075
<v Speaker 1>she wrote something like this about what would happen when

0:42:20.115 --> 0:42:25.795
<v Speaker 1>the Bobby Kennedy story came out again. I took some

0:42:25.835 --> 0:42:32.435
<v Speaker 1>criticism for using the neo meme, the neo gif jiff,

0:42:33.555 --> 0:42:39.635
<v Speaker 1>the gift jiff meme about what's his name Keanu Reeves

0:42:39.715 --> 0:42:42.875
<v Speaker 1>dodging bullets? Oh no, you took plenty of bullets in

0:42:42.875 --> 0:42:45.715
<v Speaker 1>that article. No no, no, no no. I meant in

0:42:46.035 --> 0:42:53.915
<v Speaker 1>you know life on my tombstone, you can write avoided

0:42:53.995 --> 0:43:00.955
<v Speaker 1>death by Olivia Newsy. Probably one thing I will say

0:43:00.955 --> 0:43:05.395
<v Speaker 1>about reading this quote that he puts in here, describing

0:43:05.435 --> 0:43:07.875
<v Speaker 1>herself as a blonde beauty, one of the most famous

0:43:07.915 --> 0:43:11.115
<v Speaker 1>political reporters in America, gained critical acclaim as a skilled

0:43:11.155 --> 0:43:17.115
<v Speaker 1>profile writer. Did you see online the links via the

0:43:17.155 --> 0:43:21.835
<v Speaker 1>wayback machine, the Internet wayback machine to her career as

0:43:21.875 --> 0:43:24.755
<v Speaker 1>a pop singer as a teenager under the name Livy

0:43:25.035 --> 0:43:28.635
<v Speaker 1>with two v's. I had never seen this, although the

0:43:28.675 --> 0:43:31.595
<v Speaker 1>photograph does look familiar. I think she showed it to

0:43:31.635 --> 0:43:34.115
<v Speaker 1>me at one point. I knew she had a singing career.

0:43:34.195 --> 0:43:36.915
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know it was pop bubblegum. I certainly didn't

0:43:36.915 --> 0:43:39.555
<v Speaker 1>know there was a song called Jailbait, for God's sakes.

0:43:39.755 --> 0:43:42.315
<v Speaker 1>But if you go and look at these captures of

0:43:42.395 --> 0:43:47.475
<v Speaker 1>what was a MySpace location for her music, and I

0:43:47.595 --> 0:43:49.475
<v Speaker 1>know I'm not going to listen to her music. No,

0:43:49.515 --> 0:43:52.235
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to listen to it, she erased, all

0:43:52.355 --> 0:43:55.155
<v Speaker 1>this probably spent money to try to get rid of it.

0:43:56.155 --> 0:43:58.195
<v Speaker 1>But what you need to go and see is the

0:43:58.355 --> 0:44:01.715
<v Speaker 1>write up about Livy and what a force she was

0:44:01.795 --> 0:44:05.115
<v Speaker 1>and the influences that caused this, and how so you

0:44:05.195 --> 0:44:09.235
<v Speaker 1>know she had gained critical acclaim as a skilled pop singer,

0:44:09.555 --> 0:44:12.315
<v Speaker 1>gaining access to the powerful and the mysterious and turning

0:44:12.355 --> 0:44:17.835
<v Speaker 1>into pure upbeat disco gold or words to that effect.

0:44:17.875 --> 0:44:22.635
<v Speaker 1>It's the same writing she was fantasizing about being the

0:44:22.715 --> 0:44:27.435
<v Speaker 1>next what was what was the Tiffany? The next Tiffany

0:44:28.155 --> 0:44:31.075
<v Speaker 1>when she was fifteen, and she was fantasizing about being

0:44:31.835 --> 0:44:38.795
<v Speaker 1>missus Governor Mark Sandford in twenty twenty one more thing

0:44:38.795 --> 0:44:42.115
<v Speaker 1>about Sandford that he writes in a text exchange. I

0:44:42.155 --> 0:44:45.995
<v Speaker 1>also asked Olivia if she sent Mark Sandford any pictures

0:44:45.995 --> 0:44:48.955
<v Speaker 1>that might embarrass us if they became public. She insisted

0:44:48.955 --> 0:44:53.435
<v Speaker 1>that she only sent one inappropriate photo before or after

0:44:53.475 --> 0:44:57.595
<v Speaker 1>you had sex with him. I asked, after, why did

0:44:57.635 --> 0:45:01.475
<v Speaker 1>you send it? Honestly because I am, and then Olivia,

0:45:01.555 --> 0:45:04.755
<v Speaker 1>as was her, wont drops an F bomb and the

0:45:04.875 --> 0:45:13.035
<v Speaker 1>our word because I am fing rd all right, nudes

0:45:13.075 --> 0:45:16.835
<v Speaker 1>to Sanford or one nude to Sandford? There's a dispute

0:45:16.875 --> 0:45:18.595
<v Speaker 1>on that which we'll have to go to some sort

0:45:18.635 --> 0:45:21.195
<v Speaker 1>of international by maybe the UN can hold a hearing

0:45:21.235 --> 0:45:23.355
<v Speaker 1>as to whether or not she sent a nude or

0:45:23.435 --> 0:45:27.195
<v Speaker 1>multiple nudes to Mark Sandford. Liza was the one who

0:45:27.235 --> 0:45:30.755
<v Speaker 1>would originally let out the story. We believe, we believe

0:45:30.795 --> 0:45:32.395
<v Speaker 1>it was him. We don't know who the hell else

0:45:32.435 --> 0:45:34.955
<v Speaker 1>it could have been that said that there were nudes

0:45:34.995 --> 0:45:39.275
<v Speaker 1>to RFK, but they were tasteful. I can tell you

0:45:39.355 --> 0:45:42.835
<v Speaker 1>she sent me nudes and I said, look, they're great.

0:45:43.435 --> 0:45:45.995
<v Speaker 1>You take a great photo. And I am all for

0:45:46.115 --> 0:45:49.395
<v Speaker 1>freedom of expression. And you and I belong to different generations,

0:45:49.435 --> 0:45:51.955
<v Speaker 1>and I know you don't really have a concept of privacy,

0:45:52.155 --> 0:45:54.355
<v Speaker 1>and the photographs, the whole thing and the enginet is

0:45:54.395 --> 0:45:56.675
<v Speaker 1>prep But here's what I would do if you really

0:45:56.715 --> 0:45:59.715
<v Speaker 1>want to do this. I'm not going to discourage you

0:45:59.795 --> 0:46:02.875
<v Speaker 1>from this. I am a male. There is such a

0:46:02.915 --> 0:46:06.275
<v Speaker 1>thing as biology. Here's what you do. Take the photos

0:46:06.355 --> 0:46:09.155
<v Speaker 1>and print them out, or buy a polaroid camera and

0:46:09.195 --> 0:46:11.635
<v Speaker 1>take the pictures. I understand they're gonna have to be

0:46:11.635 --> 0:46:14.195
<v Speaker 1>a little bit better. You can't delete so many, or

0:46:14.515 --> 0:46:18.355
<v Speaker 1>you know, buy a little printer for your laptop or

0:46:18.355 --> 0:46:25.035
<v Speaker 1>whatever you're using your phone, and then delete everything. Delete, delete, delete, delete.

0:46:25.035 --> 0:46:29.235
<v Speaker 1>The delete button is your friend. I'm all for freedom

0:46:29.235 --> 0:46:32.955
<v Speaker 1>of expression. I'm all for modern technology. I'm all for

0:46:33.235 --> 0:46:37.835
<v Speaker 1>pictures of you that are salacious. That's great. But this

0:46:37.955 --> 0:46:40.395
<v Speaker 1>is this is not appropriate to send to me, and

0:46:40.435 --> 0:46:42.915
<v Speaker 1>it's certainly not appropriate to send to me over the internet.

0:46:43.075 --> 0:46:47.035
<v Speaker 1>There are ways to do this without without sending me,

0:46:47.555 --> 0:46:50.795
<v Speaker 1>you know, using the internet. Don't do that. They The

0:46:50.835 --> 0:46:55.235
<v Speaker 1>most important part about this is I will survive if

0:46:55.275 --> 0:46:58.635
<v Speaker 1>you send me nude photographs. I hate to tell you this,

0:46:58.755 --> 0:47:02.755
<v Speaker 1>hon but I'm fifty whatever years old. This won't be

0:47:02.795 --> 0:47:05.195
<v Speaker 1>the first time anybody sent me a nude phote photograph,

0:47:05.515 --> 0:47:08.835
<v Speaker 1>even since when before we had an internet it happened.

0:47:09.355 --> 0:47:12.355
<v Speaker 1>I have survived all this, and I've kept them all

0:47:12.395 --> 0:47:16.235
<v Speaker 1>confidential or destroyed them, almost always destroyed them. In fact,

0:47:16.275 --> 0:47:18.075
<v Speaker 1>I can't think of an occasion in which I didn't.

0:47:18.915 --> 0:47:24.475
<v Speaker 1>But they're sent via the Internet. Guess what I think.

0:47:24.555 --> 0:47:27.195
<v Speaker 1>Almost everything on the Internet, even the stuff you delete,

0:47:27.635 --> 0:47:35.795
<v Speaker 1>exists somewhere. They will harm you. They will harm you later,

0:47:38.635 --> 0:47:41.435
<v Speaker 1>as I said, I deleted the ones she sent as

0:47:41.475 --> 0:47:48.275
<v Speaker 1>they came in. Well, a couple minutes Acada damit back

0:47:48.395 --> 0:47:52.555
<v Speaker 1>to Ryan Liza already in progress eight dollars if you

0:47:52.555 --> 0:47:56.955
<v Speaker 1>want to read it yourself. Olivia develops addictive light attachments

0:47:56.995 --> 0:47:59.715
<v Speaker 1>to the men she loves, who are generally older and

0:47:59.875 --> 0:48:05.715
<v Speaker 1>more powerful, and she pursues them until she conquers them.

0:48:07.875 --> 0:48:10.115
<v Speaker 1>I can tell you, without fear of contradiction, it had

0:48:10.155 --> 0:48:12.875
<v Speaker 1>never occurred to me until I read this and other

0:48:12.955 --> 0:48:14.955
<v Speaker 1>things that were written in the last week that she

0:48:15.115 --> 0:48:18.435
<v Speaker 1>might have pursued me. I didn't get that feeling at all.

0:48:20.635 --> 0:48:23.315
<v Speaker 1>It's not to say that's not the case, particularly if

0:48:23.355 --> 0:48:26.435
<v Speaker 1>she's adept at it or was developing skills like this,

0:48:26.755 --> 0:48:32.115
<v Speaker 1>it would explain in any event. There's a quote, now,

0:48:32.155 --> 0:48:35.195
<v Speaker 1>this is twenty twenty, so this is pre RFK Junior

0:48:35.675 --> 0:48:39.195
<v Speaker 1>and after Mark Sandford and Liziit quotes her as saying,

0:48:39.355 --> 0:48:41.515
<v Speaker 1>I'm three for three. She said to me in a

0:48:41.555 --> 0:48:46.875
<v Speaker 1>moment of levity after the affair with Mark I'm not

0:48:46.915 --> 0:48:52.835
<v Speaker 1>going to just assume that I am addictive like attachments

0:48:52.875 --> 0:48:56.155
<v Speaker 1>to the men she loves. She didn't show any addictive

0:48:56.355 --> 0:48:59.515
<v Speaker 1>like behavior towards me. It was really normal. She once

0:48:59.555 --> 0:49:01.355
<v Speaker 1>got mad at me because I didn't say I love you.

0:49:01.395 --> 0:49:05.555
<v Speaker 1>At the end of a conversation, she said, what about

0:49:05.595 --> 0:49:10.355
<v Speaker 1>saying it? I'm sorry once. There was not addictive behavior.

0:49:10.395 --> 0:49:13.395
<v Speaker 1>She didn't follow me around. She didn't place, you know,

0:49:14.755 --> 0:49:19.675
<v Speaker 1>air pods or not air pods air tags on me

0:49:19.795 --> 0:49:23.795
<v Speaker 1>to see where I was. She didn't call five minutes

0:49:23.835 --> 0:49:25.555
<v Speaker 1>before the show to make sure I was in the studio.

0:49:26.075 --> 0:49:31.315
<v Speaker 1>She didn't do that stuff others may have. So I'm

0:49:31.355 --> 0:49:33.395
<v Speaker 1>not sure that I'm three for three here, But I'm

0:49:33.435 --> 0:49:35.715
<v Speaker 1>just interested if I'm not. If it's not three for

0:49:35.795 --> 0:49:40.395
<v Speaker 1>three at the three here or not me Liza and

0:49:41.395 --> 0:49:44.555
<v Speaker 1>former governor of North Carolina as of twenty twenty. I'm

0:49:44.555 --> 0:49:47.915
<v Speaker 1>interested to him is there another politician besides RFK and

0:49:47.955 --> 0:49:53.395
<v Speaker 1>Mark Sandford. I'm wondering what he's hinting. Now. This is

0:49:53.435 --> 0:49:56.115
<v Speaker 1>a part that I don't really fully understand. Aside from

0:49:56.155 --> 0:49:59.435
<v Speaker 1>that notable moment of bragging, Olivia was mostly deeply apologetic

0:49:59.435 --> 0:50:02.235
<v Speaker 1>and ashamed. She offered to pay back our book advance

0:50:02.275 --> 0:50:08.155
<v Speaker 1>because the affair had sabotaged the project. Okay, how in

0:50:08.195 --> 0:50:16.075
<v Speaker 1>the hell did that happen? I mean, you're right. She

0:50:16.235 --> 0:50:18.955
<v Speaker 1>spiraled into self loathing and self pity about what an

0:50:19.075 --> 0:50:22.155
<v Speaker 1>f f up she was. Other times she unloaded on

0:50:22.235 --> 0:50:23.915
<v Speaker 1>me and says, listing all the ways I had made

0:50:23.955 --> 0:50:27.315
<v Speaker 1>mistakes in our relationship and insisting that she deserved another chance.

0:50:27.875 --> 0:50:30.435
<v Speaker 1>By the fall of twenty twenty two, we were engaged.

0:50:33.635 --> 0:50:37.275
<v Speaker 1>Excuse I have one. I have a series of small questions.

0:50:38.275 --> 0:50:43.995
<v Speaker 1>We go from deeply apologetic, ashamed, offering to pay back

0:50:44.035 --> 0:50:48.235
<v Speaker 1>the book advance, self loathing, self pity, unloading on him

0:50:48.595 --> 0:50:51.395
<v Speaker 1>all the ways he made mistakes, insisting she deserved another check.

0:50:51.435 --> 0:50:53.675
<v Speaker 1>By the fall of twenty twenty two, we were engaged.

0:50:53.995 --> 0:50:56.795
<v Speaker 1>Couldn't there have at least been like a graphic in

0:50:56.875 --> 0:50:59.955
<v Speaker 1>there that said later? What I mean, how do you

0:50:59.995 --> 0:51:04.635
<v Speaker 1>go from that to we were engaged? I understand, becau,

0:51:04.675 --> 0:51:06.675
<v Speaker 1>because I am one hundred and twenty seven years old

0:51:07.155 --> 0:51:09.515
<v Speaker 1>that in a relationship, if you're going to continue after

0:51:09.555 --> 0:51:13.355
<v Speaker 1>some crisis, especially the crisis of infidelity, you're going to

0:51:13.395 --> 0:51:16.915
<v Speaker 1>have to buy in completely. I understand that. But the

0:51:17.075 --> 0:51:21.355
<v Speaker 1>jump from unloading on me listing all the ways I

0:51:21.395 --> 0:51:24.635
<v Speaker 1>had made mistakes. What an f up? She was, self loathing,

0:51:24.715 --> 0:51:27.795
<v Speaker 1>self pity, insisting she deserved another chance. Jumping directly from

0:51:27.795 --> 0:51:35.715
<v Speaker 1>that too, we're engaged, like what although one thing does

0:51:36.555 --> 0:51:40.075
<v Speaker 1>does encourage me with this? I used to be sent

0:51:40.195 --> 0:51:42.915
<v Speaker 1>by a friend of mine who liked to push a

0:51:42.995 --> 0:51:46.795
<v Speaker 1>particular button posts that they would make on Facebook in

0:51:46.835 --> 0:51:49.675
<v Speaker 1>which they would you report from being in Italy or something,

0:51:49.715 --> 0:51:52.915
<v Speaker 1>and the showing the ring in such a way that

0:51:52.995 --> 0:51:55.515
<v Speaker 1>it was larger than her head, and she has a

0:51:55.555 --> 0:51:57.675
<v Speaker 1>pretty big head or his head, and he has a

0:51:57.715 --> 0:52:01.195
<v Speaker 1>pretty big head photographing it. So just you saw the

0:52:01.275 --> 0:52:04.395
<v Speaker 1>diamond on the ring. And my friend would send these

0:52:04.395 --> 0:52:06.435
<v Speaker 1>two me and go, is this the most garish thing

0:52:06.435 --> 0:52:08.995
<v Speaker 1>you've ever seen in your life? And I was like, yes, well,

0:52:09.515 --> 0:52:12.795
<v Speaker 1>at least we know that all those gushing words I

0:52:12.875 --> 0:52:16.515
<v Speaker 1>love you more every passing day. At least those things

0:52:16.555 --> 0:52:21.515
<v Speaker 1>that looked too stupid to be real were too stupid

0:52:21.715 --> 0:52:25.595
<v Speaker 1>to be real. Let me leave you with a lighter

0:52:25.635 --> 0:52:28.155
<v Speaker 1>note from Ryan lizzb I asked her to remove her

0:52:28.195 --> 0:52:30.995
<v Speaker 1>engagement ring. This is after he decided to throw her

0:52:30.995 --> 0:52:34.115
<v Speaker 1>out in August twenty twenty four, and I was surprised

0:52:34.155 --> 0:52:38.355
<v Speaker 1>by her stunned response. I'm not taking that off, she

0:52:38.515 --> 0:52:41.355
<v Speaker 1>screamed as she began sobbing. I don't want to take

0:52:41.395 --> 0:52:45.875
<v Speaker 1>it off. Well, of course not Ryan. Of course she

0:52:45.915 --> 0:52:49.315
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't take it off. She was presumably planning to keep

0:52:49.355 --> 0:52:52.235
<v Speaker 1>it and sell it, like the commitment ring that I

0:52:52.275 --> 0:52:57.435
<v Speaker 1>had bought her, which somehow, Ryan, you knew the value

0:52:57.475 --> 0:53:03.395
<v Speaker 1>of thirteen years after I bought it for her. Who knows?

0:53:03.435 --> 0:53:05.715
<v Speaker 1>Maybe she and Ryan and split the money on the

0:53:05.715 --> 0:53:13.715
<v Speaker 1>commitment ring. We're the engagement ring? Oh news? Anybody checked eBay?

0:53:14.515 --> 0:53:17.035
<v Speaker 1>One last note from The New York Times, which I mentioned,

0:53:17.075 --> 0:53:19.435
<v Speaker 1>which was the first to report that Vanity Fair was

0:53:19.475 --> 0:53:23.835
<v Speaker 1>reviewing its relationship with Olivia News. I'll bet it is like,

0:53:23.995 --> 0:53:27.795
<v Speaker 1>let's review how many people here should be fired because

0:53:27.795 --> 0:53:30.995
<v Speaker 1>we hired Olivia Newsy without knowing that this is a

0:53:31.035 --> 0:53:34.595
<v Speaker 1>serial thing and she has no value to us whatsoever,

0:53:34.675 --> 0:53:39.475
<v Speaker 1>except possibly as a model if we can find her eyebrows.

0:53:40.075 --> 0:53:43.035
<v Speaker 1>Is the Times reviewing its fawning profile of her a

0:53:43.075 --> 0:53:46.835
<v Speaker 1>week ago today, in which Carl Bernstein's son missed every

0:53:46.875 --> 0:53:52.115
<v Speaker 1>single news story that has dominated one corner of the

0:53:52.155 --> 0:53:58.635
<v Speaker 1>news business since I mean, frankly, sir, you are over

0:53:58.715 --> 0:54:03.195
<v Speaker 1>two hundred and sixteen their story after story after story,

0:54:03.715 --> 0:54:06.115
<v Speaker 1>even if you're just doing what The Times is now doing,

0:54:06.275 --> 0:54:09.315
<v Speaker 1>which is what I'm doing to some degree, aggregating and

0:54:09.355 --> 0:54:12.435
<v Speaker 1>commenting on what this guy keeps putting on his substack

0:54:12.675 --> 0:54:17.595
<v Speaker 1>eight dollars. Anyway, in the Times piece, which, as I said,

0:54:17.835 --> 0:54:20.515
<v Speaker 1>nobody actually read because within three hours it was all

0:54:20.635 --> 0:54:23.115
<v Speaker 1>Part two is up. It's all about Robert F. Kennedy

0:54:23.155 --> 0:54:29.875
<v Speaker 1>and his rules about oral sex. Notice I skipped that anyway.

0:54:30.235 --> 0:54:34.715
<v Speaker 1>I was in the Times article. I was quoted describing

0:54:34.755 --> 0:54:38.035
<v Speaker 1>my relationship with her with the rings, with the dogs,

0:54:38.115 --> 0:54:42.555
<v Speaker 1>with the tattoos as marriage e. It's not an elegant word,

0:54:42.795 --> 0:54:44.915
<v Speaker 1>but it was apt, and in fact I was quoting Olivia.

0:54:44.955 --> 0:54:48.435
<v Speaker 1>That was her word, what kind of marriage ee? This

0:54:48.595 --> 0:54:50.635
<v Speaker 1>is the quote that they got from her. She actually

0:54:50.675 --> 0:54:53.835
<v Speaker 1>responded to this. Ms Noozy apparently does not consider her

0:54:53.835 --> 0:54:57.475
<v Speaker 1>relationship with mister Olderman to have been marriage ye quote.

0:54:57.635 --> 0:55:00.755
<v Speaker 1>I have not ever before and will not now acknowledge

0:55:00.755 --> 0:55:05.035
<v Speaker 1>any claims made by this person, she wrote in a text.

0:55:05.875 --> 0:55:08.315
<v Speaker 1>By the way, this sums her all up. I have

0:55:08.435 --> 0:55:11.635
<v Speaker 1>not ever before and will not now acknowledge any claims

0:55:11.675 --> 0:55:14.275
<v Speaker 1>made by this person, she wrote in a text which

0:55:14.395 --> 0:55:17.875
<v Speaker 1>was in itself an acknowledgment of claims made by this person,

0:55:18.355 --> 0:55:25.315
<v Speaker 1>self defeating a little bit here, damn. Also, I will

0:55:25.315 --> 0:55:29.155
<v Speaker 1>not acknowledge any claims man by this person. Not acknowledged

0:55:29.155 --> 0:55:34.355
<v Speaker 1>the five hundred five thousand who knows photos and videos

0:55:35.155 --> 0:55:39.395
<v Speaker 1>I never counted them of me with this person, or

0:55:39.435 --> 0:55:43.475
<v Speaker 1>with this person and our dogs, or with this person

0:55:43.515 --> 0:55:46.635
<v Speaker 1>and our tattoos as we got them, or with this

0:55:46.675 --> 0:55:50.995
<v Speaker 1>person at events we went to, or the thousands of emails,

0:55:51.155 --> 0:55:53.355
<v Speaker 1>or the list of this person's friends that we dined

0:55:53.395 --> 0:55:55.235
<v Speaker 1>with and I got to meet, or a group of

0:55:55.235 --> 0:55:59.795
<v Speaker 1>this person's friends whom she called up after the breakup,

0:55:59.835 --> 0:56:02.075
<v Speaker 1>insisting that she hadn't broken up with them and she

0:56:02.155 --> 0:56:07.195
<v Speaker 1>wanted to stay friends, particularly the ones who had political

0:56:07.275 --> 0:56:11.595
<v Speaker 1>connections or television connections, how odd, occasionally calling them later

0:56:11.675 --> 0:56:17.555
<v Speaker 1>as sources for her stories. I will not now acknowledge

0:56:17.595 --> 0:56:22.355
<v Speaker 1>any claims lal Olivia, who may have peaked psychologically at

0:56:22.355 --> 0:56:25.435
<v Speaker 1>twenty or maybe when she was writing the Livy copy

0:56:25.635 --> 0:56:29.235
<v Speaker 1>about the pop music who Knows, I expect her to

0:56:29.315 --> 0:56:32.995
<v Speaker 1>now issue a statement reading I have not ever before

0:56:33.075 --> 0:56:36.435
<v Speaker 1>and will not now acknowledge that my journalism and writing

0:56:36.515 --> 0:56:41.675
<v Speaker 1>careers are over, even though they sure as f R

0:57:05.395 --> 0:57:08.195
<v Speaker 1>believe it or not. There are still more new idiots

0:57:08.195 --> 0:57:11.355
<v Speaker 1>to talk about before I go the roundup of the miscrants,

0:57:11.435 --> 0:57:15.555
<v Speaker 1>morons and Dunning Krueger effects specimens who constitute today's other

0:57:17.275 --> 0:57:22.035
<v Speaker 1>worst persons in the world. Runner up an unnamed rooky

0:57:22.155 --> 0:57:25.995
<v Speaker 1>Chicago cop, and I would like to, if you'll permit me,

0:57:26.155 --> 0:57:30.555
<v Speaker 1>read this from the Chicago Sun Times in my bad

0:57:30.595 --> 0:57:36.835
<v Speaker 1>impression of Walter Cronkite Ready, the probationary Chicago cop accidentally

0:57:36.835 --> 0:57:39.715
<v Speaker 1>shot himself in the groin Wednesday night because he headed

0:57:39.715 --> 0:57:43.395
<v Speaker 1>into work at the Gresham District Station. Land twenty two.

0:57:43.555 --> 0:57:46.235
<v Speaker 1>Was in the parking lot of the station seventy eighth

0:57:46.275 --> 0:57:50.155
<v Speaker 1>eight South Halstead Street when the firearm in his waistband

0:57:50.235 --> 0:57:53.395
<v Speaker 1>went off around ten oh five pm and grazed him

0:57:53.435 --> 0:57:58.035
<v Speaker 1>in the groin. Police said he was quote wearing street

0:57:58.115 --> 0:58:01.995
<v Speaker 1>clothes and heading for duty when the gun discharged, and

0:58:02.035 --> 0:58:07.315
<v Speaker 1>he accidentally shot himself in the testicles. According to Office

0:58:07.315 --> 0:58:11.115
<v Speaker 1>of Emergency Management and Communication records obtained by The Sun Times,

0:58:11.675 --> 0:58:16.595
<v Speaker 1>an officer in distress call you bet was made around

0:58:16.595 --> 0:58:19.955
<v Speaker 1>the time of the shooting. He was taken to the

0:58:20.075 --> 0:58:23.555
<v Speaker 1>University of Chicago Medical Center and was listed in good condition.

0:58:23.795 --> 0:58:28.475
<v Speaker 1>Lea said, the news apparently official. He shot himself in

0:58:28.515 --> 0:58:32.875
<v Speaker 1>the testables. That's the way it is. Monday, November twenty fourth,

0:58:32.955 --> 0:58:40.915
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five, Walter Cronkite CBS News, speaking of CBS

0:58:40.955 --> 0:58:44.635
<v Speaker 1>News the runner up these Ellison assholes. The idea of

0:58:44.675 --> 0:58:47.715
<v Speaker 1>them buying CNN and merging it into CBS is real

0:58:47.835 --> 0:58:52.195
<v Speaker 1>enough that they are offering to essentially shoot CNN anchors.

0:58:52.235 --> 0:58:55.155
<v Speaker 1>The White House doesn't like if Trump will let them

0:58:55.635 --> 0:58:59.475
<v Speaker 1>buy the company that owns CNN and merge CNN into

0:58:59.555 --> 0:59:03.595
<v Speaker 1>CBS News. From The Guardian, senior White House officials have

0:59:03.675 --> 0:59:07.755
<v Speaker 1>discussed internally their preference for Paramount sky Dance. Those are

0:59:07.755 --> 0:59:13.835
<v Speaker 1>the Ellisons to acquire Warner Bros. Discovery. One official has

0:59:13.915 --> 0:59:19.915
<v Speaker 1>discussed potential programming changes at CNN with Larry Ellison. According

0:59:19.915 --> 0:59:23.275
<v Speaker 1>to people familiar, they come as Paramount portrays itself as

0:59:23.315 --> 0:59:26.155
<v Speaker 1>the best bid blah blah blah, because it'd be easier

0:59:26.155 --> 0:59:30.515
<v Speaker 1>to get through regulatory review. Ellison often speaks to connections

0:59:30.555 --> 0:59:33.115
<v Speaker 1>at the White House and in at least one phone call,

0:59:33.195 --> 0:59:36.795
<v Speaker 1>according to the Guardian's Hugo Lowell engaged in a dialogue

0:59:36.795 --> 0:59:40.875
<v Speaker 1>about possibly axing some of the CNN hosts whom Donald

0:59:40.875 --> 0:59:44.995
<v Speaker 1>Trump is said to loathe, including Aaron Burnett and Brianna Keeler.

0:59:45.155 --> 0:59:49.995
<v Speaker 1>The people said, now, I have no use for Aaron Burnett, who,

0:59:49.995 --> 0:59:53.315
<v Speaker 1>if you remember, on her first day as a news anchor,

0:59:53.395 --> 0:59:57.515
<v Speaker 1>after years doing business on CNBC, went on the air

0:59:58.395 --> 1:00:01.435
<v Speaker 1>during the time of Occupy Wall Street and went to

1:00:01.515 --> 1:00:05.275
<v Speaker 1>Wall Street and had herself videotaped sitting on Wall Street

1:00:05.315 --> 1:00:08.955
<v Speaker 1>and saying, oh, look, I'm occupying Wall Street and mocked

1:00:09.035 --> 1:00:11.875
<v Speaker 1>the entire concept of it, and thought she would get

1:00:12.235 --> 1:00:14.995
<v Speaker 1>some sort of Emmy award for it, or perhaps a

1:00:15.075 --> 1:00:18.275
<v Speaker 1>lifetime Emmy award for it. I have no use for

1:00:18.315 --> 1:00:23.635
<v Speaker 1>her none. I have previously called for Brianna Keeler to

1:00:23.635 --> 1:00:27.435
<v Speaker 1>be fired because she was serving the Trump interests. But

1:00:27.555 --> 1:00:31.075
<v Speaker 1>this is something else. This is now advanced to the

1:00:31.115 --> 1:00:34.435
<v Speaker 1>stage in which the White House would get to essentially

1:00:34.515 --> 1:00:39.595
<v Speaker 1>pick the personnel lineup for primetime and other times on CNN.

1:00:40.995 --> 1:00:43.915
<v Speaker 1>We have entered into a period of time in which

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<v Speaker 1>the best thing that could happen for CNN, and maybe

1:00:47.315 --> 1:00:50.035
<v Speaker 1>at this point for CBS News is for it to

1:00:50.115 --> 1:00:55.875
<v Speaker 1>be sold for scrap, sell the cameras to some country

1:00:55.875 --> 1:01:02.515
<v Speaker 1>that actually does the news, like Ecuador, and yet trying

1:01:02.515 --> 1:01:05.475
<v Speaker 1>to get rid of all these terrible anchors at White

1:01:05.475 --> 1:01:11.435
<v Speaker 1>House request. Jake Tapper is somehow safe. Jake Tapper tweeted

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<v Speaker 1>after a woman reporter asked about President Trump's name being

1:01:13.995 --> 1:01:17.035
<v Speaker 1>raised an email sent by convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.

1:01:17.235 --> 1:01:21.795
<v Speaker 1>Trump snaps at her quiet piggy Jenna Ellis, remember her

1:01:22.475 --> 1:01:26.715
<v Speaker 1>the least competent besides the Kraken woman of all of

1:01:26.755 --> 1:01:32.515
<v Speaker 1>Trump's twenty twenty deniers. Jenna Ellis, assistant to Rudy Giuliani.

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<v Speaker 1>My god, actually retweeted this, then deleted. It isn't the

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<v Speaker 1>reporter's name, Peggy. Come on, Jake, at least pretend harder

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<v Speaker 1>to be a journalist. Yeah. I heard that too. To

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<v Speaker 1>be fair, On the other hand, I didn't tweet it

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<v Speaker 1>or say it on the air. You know, search engines

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<v Speaker 1>are our friend, Peggy. Peggy Ellis, Catherine Lucy was her name.

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<v Speaker 1>It's close close, Jenna Ellis close, speaking of close our

1:02:06.395 --> 1:02:12.835
<v Speaker 1>winners Catterird and Laura Fruitcake of the Lumer They are

1:02:12.875 --> 1:02:16.395
<v Speaker 1>not happy no matter how much Trump is happy. They

1:02:16.435 --> 1:02:20.715
<v Speaker 1>are not happy with Mayor Elect Mamdani. They are not happy.

1:02:21.835 --> 1:02:24.435
<v Speaker 1>Polymarket put out a tweet which was designed to get

1:02:24.475 --> 1:02:27.275
<v Speaker 1>exactly this response. Somebody pointed it out it was an

1:02:27.395 --> 1:02:31.955
<v Speaker 1>IQ test and guess who didn't pass. The tweet was

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<v Speaker 1>breaking Zora and Mamdani to require all New York elementary

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<v Speaker 1>school students to learn Arabic numerals. Catterd responded, that's not

1:02:44.715 --> 1:02:46.915
<v Speaker 1>far enough. He should make every school kid in New

1:02:46.955 --> 1:02:51.235
<v Speaker 1>York only speak Arabic, no English. The insane liberal Karens

1:02:51.275 --> 1:02:54.235
<v Speaker 1>voted for this complete nut. Let them reap what they sow.

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<v Speaker 1>And Laura Lumer, you know things are bad when you

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<v Speaker 1>can't tell if this is real or a joke. Dear God,

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<v Speaker 1>it's real, isn't it now? Laura Lumer is a child

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<v Speaker 1>who wears a lot of makeup, so she can perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>be excused for being this stupid for not knowing what

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<v Speaker 1>Arabic numerals are. But this guy cat Turd is in

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<v Speaker 1>like his like in his nineties, or he's one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and ten or something. He should have found out by now,

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<v Speaker 1>even with the background that he has, that Arabic numerals

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<v Speaker 1>are one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight nine.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe the zero originates elsewhere, but one through nine

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<v Speaker 1>are Arabic numerals. Somebody added worse than all this, Madady

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<v Speaker 1>is also going to make sure that the City of

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<v Speaker 1>New York teaches non binary numbers. Lomer and cat turd

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<v Speaker 1>morons today's other worst persons in the world. Once again,

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<v Speaker 1>how could you just before you do that, how could

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<v Speaker 1>you not check to see if you're being set up

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<v Speaker 1>right next to wherever your Twitter is or your ex

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<v Speaker 1>or your Blue Sky or your Blue Chew or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it is you're using. Isn't there another button that allows

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<v Speaker 1>you to search the internet? Couldn't you just search quote

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<v Speaker 1>mark Arabic numerals.

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<v Speaker 3>Unquote just to see how much time does it add?

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<v Speaker 3>How much time does it take away from your rage

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<v Speaker 3>against the liberal bastards who are trying to institute Sharia

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<v Speaker 3>shania law. They want Shania law in this country.

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<v Speaker 1>America held hostage again, just sixty three days until the

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<v Speaker 1>scheduled end of his lame duck. It's official lame duck

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<v Speaker 1>lame brained term, unless he's removed sooner by MAGA and

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<v Speaker 1>All or somebody named Peggy, or if he quits to

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<v Speaker 1>become a member of the staff of Mayor elect Zora

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<v Speaker 1>and Mamnani. The next scheduled countdown is a week from today. Yes,

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