WEBVTT - NICHOLE NORDEMAN

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<v Speaker 1>With me on the phone lines are Friday Night Girl,

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<v Speaker 1>Nicole Nordoman, Welcome to the Delilah Show. Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>I have been playing your music and listening to your

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<v Speaker 1>music and and sharing your music with my kids for years,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think this is the first time I've got

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<v Speaker 1>to interview you. It is the first time, and I've

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<v Speaker 1>been a fan of yours for a long long time,

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<v Speaker 1>so this is a real thrill for me. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for the time. Thank you. So where is home for

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<v Speaker 1>you and your family? I am in Tulsa, Oklahoma, um,

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<v Speaker 1>where I have been for about seven years now. Before

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<v Speaker 1>that was in Dallas. But but Oklahoma is home now,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm very happy about that. Oklahoma is home because

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<v Speaker 1>that's where you grew up. Or Oklahoma is home because

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<v Speaker 1>that's where God just took you. That's kind of just

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<v Speaker 1>where God took me. Um. You know, we're living in Dallas,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of our extended family, UM aunt and

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<v Speaker 1>uncles and grandmas and grandpa's and cousins, we're in the

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<v Speaker 1>Oklahoma area, and we just really felt like we learned

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<v Speaker 1>our kids to just grow up around family. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>what brought us here. So Nicole Nordman you have a

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<v Speaker 1>song and now a book that every mother and many fathers,

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<v Speaker 1>but all the moms that I know, the first time

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<v Speaker 1>they listened to the song, they're just like reduced to

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<v Speaker 1>the ugly cry Yeah yeah, this song. Um. It was

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<v Speaker 1>just such an accidental saying really. Um. Of course, looking back,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it was excellent at all. But but

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<v Speaker 1>my son was graduating from the fifth grade and the

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<v Speaker 1>teachers um in his school asked if I would sing

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<v Speaker 1>a song at their little graduation ceremony, and I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of forgot that I had agreed to do it, and

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<v Speaker 1>so at the last minute the night before, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my goodness, what am I going to sing? What

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<v Speaker 1>on earth would I have to say to the creators

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<v Speaker 1>that they wouldn't think is terribly lame? And I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to embarrass Charlie, of course, so let's let's let's

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<v Speaker 1>be honest. Mom. Yeah, anything you say do around a fifth, sixth, seventh,

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<v Speaker 1>or eighth grader is going to be terribly lame. It's

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely lame. If you ever have any dissillusion that you

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<v Speaker 1>might be somewhat cool, just go spend some time with

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<v Speaker 1>middle schoolers and you will. You'll be corrected quickly, You'll

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<v Speaker 1>quickly realize how uncool you are. Okay, So you had

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<v Speaker 1>agreed to sing a song at your son's fifth grade graduation,

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<v Speaker 1>and because your mom, how many kids do you have?

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<v Speaker 1>I have two kids. My daughter is eight, So two kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Busy mom, recording artist and author, flying around here and there,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to keep all the balls in the year you forgot.

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot, and I was mad at myself for forgetting

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<v Speaker 1>because it was such an important sort of milestone and

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<v Speaker 1>it was important to him and of course very emotional

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<v Speaker 1>for me just as a parent. He's sort of, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>leaving elementary school and this milestone transition into middle school.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was mad that I had forgotten and that

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't more on my radar. So I sat down

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<v Speaker 1>at the piano after they were in dead and I

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of started rehearsing songs that I know performed frequently,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be familiar or you know, might sort of

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<v Speaker 1>sit the event. And for whatever reason, I just felt

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<v Speaker 1>so emotional, like it sort of hit me out of nowhere,

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<v Speaker 1>like this is like he's really graduating, you know, into

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<v Speaker 1>this next phase of life. And so I made the

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<v Speaker 1>grave mistake of pulling out old photo album No no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you daster it was Adapter. I was full on, ugly

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<v Speaker 1>crying by myself at the piano at two in the morning.

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought, how in the world can I slow

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<v Speaker 1>this down? And just growing up too fast and I

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<v Speaker 1>have no control over it, and so I just started

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<v Speaker 1>singing about the pictures that I was looking at and

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<v Speaker 1>the memories that I had held in my heart, and

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<v Speaker 1>then gave birth to this little song that I sang

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<v Speaker 1>the next morning at his graduation, to your Money. And

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<v Speaker 1>was every other mother that was there crying along with

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yes, I didn't. I'm sure I sing it

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<v Speaker 1>horribly because I could barely get through it. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we were all just so emotional and it meant so much,

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<v Speaker 1>and I really thought that would be the end of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that was my gifts to Charlie and to

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<v Speaker 1>his classmates and to the other parents. And no one

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<v Speaker 1>even recorded it, you know, it was just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a private moment. And then I had a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>moms say to me, you've got to record that song,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought, there being sweet, you know, every one

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<v Speaker 1>sort of caught up in the moment. So I played

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<v Speaker 1>it for some some folks at my record label with

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<v Speaker 1>a million apologies and disclaimers, you know, for the Mom's song,

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<v Speaker 1>And everyone was in agreement that this needed, this needed

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<v Speaker 1>to be shared with a wider audience because it's such

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<v Speaker 1>a universal feeling that we all just we so badly

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<v Speaker 1>want to freeze time and we can't. And there's just

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<v Speaker 1>some beauty and some lament in that. And so I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I think I will think I'll share

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<v Speaker 1>this with with more people than just we're in the

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<v Speaker 1>room that day. So how old is Charlie now? He's

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen now. So if I was uncool then I am

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<v Speaker 1>considerably more uncool now uncool now? And does he does

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<v Speaker 1>he give you the eye roll like constantly? Yes, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the I roll, and it's you know, I did I

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<v Speaker 1>remember being that age. I really do. And I loved

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<v Speaker 1>my parents had a great relationship with him, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I also was just so embarrassed, like they tried to

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<v Speaker 1>be cool and they were not cool, and they tried

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<v Speaker 1>to be funny and they were not funny. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>that person now and it's pretty awesome. Oh yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>love it. Oh yeah, So tell me about the little

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<v Speaker 1>book that has now come out to kind of partner

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<v Speaker 1>with them, slowed down the song. Sure well, UM, the

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<v Speaker 1>song first became a video, and again that was just

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<v Speaker 1>very That's when I saw it. That's when I did

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<v Speaker 1>the ugly cry. The video that was that was my

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<v Speaker 1>ugly cry. And we didn't expect you know. Again, it

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<v Speaker 1>was just like, let's put together some video footage of

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<v Speaker 1>our friends and there and their babies and these kids

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<v Speaker 1>that I've grown up with, and UM just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>as a little companion to the song. And then when

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<v Speaker 1>it really went viral almost overnight, I think, everyone stop,

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<v Speaker 1>when we've really tapped into something UM really special here

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<v Speaker 1>and obviously people are really connecting. So obviously all the

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<v Speaker 1>moms are really crying, just like Delilah is right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So out of that experience, UM came this idea for

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<v Speaker 1>a gift book and and really what it is, Delila

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<v Speaker 1>is just it's just a collection of essays, very personal

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<v Speaker 1>moments from my own UM life as a mom, the

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<v Speaker 1>not pretty moments, the messy moments, the beautiful moments. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just wanted to write those stories out as

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<v Speaker 1>an extension of the song to share with other people.

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<v Speaker 1>You're really good, Nicole at at at unmasking and being

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<v Speaker 1>real with the like you said, the not pretty moments.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of that's kind of become your identity, is

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<v Speaker 1>getting real and and encouraging people to get real. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for saying that. I I definitely feel like

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<v Speaker 1>the people who have encouraged me most in my life,

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<v Speaker 1>whether they are speakers or authors or pastors or artists,

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<v Speaker 1>are the ones who aren't afraid to sort of pull

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<v Speaker 1>the curtain back and expose their own um brokenness and

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<v Speaker 1>ugliness and and just to be transparent. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>really how we heal each other and how we support

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<v Speaker 1>each other is by letting ourselves really be seen and known. So, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for that. That's a high compliment if if

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like my music says that as well. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate so much, especially when you encourage young women

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<v Speaker 1>and young people, UM not to buy into the hype,

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<v Speaker 1>not to um, not to feel like they have to

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<v Speaker 1>cover up, not to feel like they have to disguise

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<v Speaker 1>who their true nature and who their true self is,

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<v Speaker 1>or live up to someone else's expectations. And I love

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<v Speaker 1>that about you. Well, I think like anyone who's walked

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of a journey. Um, it's it's easy to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the miles that you yourself have traveled, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I can I can say that to you younger

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<v Speaker 1>women or younger audience, UM, because I have I been

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<v Speaker 1>that false self, and I have put up that mask,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have tried to be someone I'm not trying

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<v Speaker 1>to be a better Christian than I am or a

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<v Speaker 1>better mom than I really am behind the scenes, and it's, um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's exhausting to try to maintain that kind of a facade.

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<v Speaker 1>So anytime we can just be ourselves with each other

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<v Speaker 1>as a real gift. Nicole Nordeman, welcome back. We are

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<v Speaker 1>talking about your sweet song and your new book. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Embracing the everyday moments of motherhood, slow down, embracing the

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<v Speaker 1>everyday moments of motherhood. And with all the storms of

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<v Speaker 1>life raging around us, wildfires and hurricanes and solar flares

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<v Speaker 1>and earthquakes, I think now is such an important time

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<v Speaker 1>to remind people that all we have, all we have

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<v Speaker 1>is this moment, this hour, and we need to slow down.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to slow down and love on our kids

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<v Speaker 1>and bask in the joy of these moments. Yeah, Nicole Orderman,

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<v Speaker 1>slow down, Thank you. God bless you, honey. Thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>while you too, Slow down and love Soon we're to

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<v Speaker 1>love