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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.

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Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your

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Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey

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Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and

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Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the

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Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset. In

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Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or

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Speaker 1: scripted as well.

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Speaker 2: Rain Drives.

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Speaker 1: We're back, Alexis Jensen and Carlos King is here to

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Speaker 1: recap episode five of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Hey,

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Speaker 1: Alexis bou.

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Speaker 3: Thing Hello everybody, how are you? I'm good? How are

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Speaker 3: you good?

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Speaker 2: Go good and listen.

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Speaker 1: We have to get into this episode, so let's get

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Speaker 1: right into it. Alexis, we see a scene between those

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Speaker 1: intercut scene between bows Derry. I feel like it was

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Speaker 1: a third person in that rest.

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Speaker 3: O de Where where are you jumping to already?

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Speaker 4: You didn't even start on a plane, like like you're

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Speaker 4: you're passing the plane. Because here's the problem, Carlos, what

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Speaker 4: I want to know is where was there a second

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Speaker 4: private jet? Second PJA private jet that carried all of

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Speaker 4: the staff, like their their cooks, their assistants, their hair

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Speaker 4: and makeup, glam and all this, or did those people

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Speaker 4: drive and meet them there to live on the block

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Speaker 4: that they rinted out of Sedona? Or I just want

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Speaker 4: to know where these people were because we didn't see

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Speaker 4: that they were all bringing seventeen crew members. Their taxi

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Speaker 4: drivers were with them, their cooks were with everything. Was

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Speaker 4: I'm like, what that assistants walking in with donuts?

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Speaker 3: Where did those How did those people get there?

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Speaker 4: Or did they have to fly with the normal people

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Speaker 4: and then the average people on on on jets Jet

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Speaker 4: Blue or or or you know Southwest?

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Speaker 1: And then yes, if I had to take a guest,

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Speaker 1: I would say I think it was the latter. So

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Speaker 1: for example, as a producer, when you shoot, the ladies

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Speaker 1: go on private planes, Honey, Like one lucky producer, one

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Speaker 1: lucky camera person, audio gets to fly on the PJ. Honey,

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Speaker 1: the rest of us we're on the commercial flight.

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Speaker 4: You're going on Southwest, Honey, you pick your seat, it's

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Speaker 4: a six?

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Speaker 2: Yes, what do you get? So like them? And then

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Speaker 2: the glam and then.

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Speaker 4: But they brought so many for a three day Sedona.

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, okay, I love it. Hey, I'm all

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Speaker 4: for it. I'm here to watch it all.

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Speaker 1: I aspire to live that way myself. But that's the

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Speaker 1: beauty of watching this show because you get to see

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Speaker 1: like how the wealthy people live, you know, who are

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Speaker 1: a part of like that percentile. But what did you

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Speaker 1: think of out when you saw so? It was it

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Speaker 1: was Bulls and Derry. I want to say a third person,

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Speaker 1: I couldn't be wrong. But then it was also Kyle

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Speaker 1: and Erica, and they were talking about the conversation that

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Speaker 1: took place in last week's episode where Duriy was explaining

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Speaker 1: to Kyle all of her grievances with Pique and she

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Speaker 1: felt that Kyle was offending him. What shocked me in

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Speaker 1: that scene between Kyle and Erica was Kyle said, I

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Speaker 1: did speak to Mauricio about it. They flashed back to

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Speaker 1: a phone call she had with Mauricio, who said that, no,

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Speaker 1: that's not true. Piku is a great dad, and I've

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Speaker 1: seen text messages where he is trying to see his

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Speaker 2: Won't let him.

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Speaker 4: I kind of felt like Erica, where it's like, Okay, Kyle,

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Speaker 4: you can't get involved. Number one number too, Carlos. It

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Speaker 4: is like, what is the true story? Like you don't

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Speaker 4: know because and the problem with going through divorce is

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Speaker 4: you really don't heal from it for three or four

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Speaker 4: more years and then you go back and reflect and go, Okay,

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Speaker 4: I was kind of doing this or I wasn't doing that,

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Speaker 4: but I I just wonder what is the real truth.

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Speaker 4: But if I'm if I'm Kyle, I am going to

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Speaker 4: try to say out of it. I don't want Maricio

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Speaker 4: to give me information. And the part that stinks is

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Speaker 4: that in a divorce, people do feel like they have

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Speaker 4: to choose sides. Some most of your like a lot

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Speaker 4: that don't. And it's like, look, we're going to be

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Speaker 4: Kyle is. Kyle's like, I don't want to be in

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Speaker 3: She's stuck that.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna tell you why.

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Speaker 1: I strongly believe why Kyle is in the middle. Of

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Speaker 1: it and why she's choosing to, in my opinion, clear

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Speaker 2: I think Kyle has seen that Dre is trying to

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Speaker 1: I believe that Kyle is seeing what Deitt is doing

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Speaker 2: Kyle as a PK apologist, and.

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Speaker 1: And Kyle is using the conversation she had in Mauricio

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Speaker 1: as a way of defending herself. Because listen, I have

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Speaker 1: I do not believe that PK likes Deriy.

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Speaker 2: Does he love her? That's the mother of his children.

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Speaker 2: He will always love her. Does he like her? No? Right?

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Speaker 1: And I give you guys my reasons, but I will

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Speaker 1: say this last year, last season, Deree, I told you

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Speaker 1: this too. She told everybody what an alcoholic he was right,

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Speaker 1: and I took that as like, Okay, she's trying to

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Speaker 1: embarrass him. This season, she is trying to use Kyle

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Speaker 1: as a way of displaying that. No, my girlfriend is

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Speaker 1: even trying to take up for PK. So let me

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Speaker 1: try to paint Kyle as this PK apologist.

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Speaker 2: But the thing is this, if.

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Speaker 1: Durree had proof and text messages that showed her in

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Speaker 2: I do believe she would have used it by now.

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Speaker 1: And now I'm starting to think perhaps dere not only

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Speaker 1: is she using Kyle for a storyline, she could be perhaps.

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Speaker 1: Exaggerating the point when it comes to PK. And that's

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Speaker 1: why Kyle's like, no, bitch, you're not going to You're

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Speaker 1: not going to play me this season like you did

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Speaker 1: last season.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 4: I had never taken that outlook on it at all.

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Speaker 4: But and I didn't watch last season, so that's part

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Speaker 4: of my problem here. But you are right, Like that

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Speaker 4: makes total sense when you're dissecting it. It's like Dorry

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Speaker 4: is using this to her advantage to have a better

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Speaker 3: I'm the divorce a in action, you know. Yeah? And

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Speaker 3: you know what really got me? What you just said?

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Speaker 3: That really got me? Absolutely.

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Speaker 4: If she had proof of how horrible he is to her,

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Speaker 4: she would be showing the text and she'd be like, look, Kyle,

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Speaker 4: look he is doing it.

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Speaker 3: See he is, And you're right, she's not.

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Speaker 2: He's not.

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Speaker 4: If you have that evidence, you are playing it. You're

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Speaker 4: bringing it out.

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Speaker 1: You're bringing out Hey, listen, one thing I know as

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Speaker 1: a producer, which is when cast members are going through

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Speaker 1: divor Let's be clear, a lot of the stuff range

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Speaker 1: drops that they talk about on the show, it's pretty

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Speaker 1: much evidence to be used in court. It's it's it's

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Speaker 1: it's the reason why they say all these elaborate things. Again,

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Speaker 1: the way she spoke about K and I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: that she's not warranted. All I'm saying is to hear

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Speaker 1: Mauricio say no, I've seen text messages. He is trying

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Speaker 2: I now am.

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Speaker 1: Questioning the validity of de Reed's full statements as relates

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Speaker 4: Hold on though, because here's the thing, even if there's

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Speaker 4: another way that this could be. And for guys, you know,

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Speaker 4: guys tell the.

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Speaker 3: Guy version of the story. Girls tell the girl version,

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Speaker 3: which is elaborate, and you got the details. Okay, So

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Speaker 3: for Mauricio, perhaps you know PK does call and say

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Speaker 3: I want to see my kids. I'm in town right now.

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Speaker 4: And Doret's right, he can't just fly in when the

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Speaker 4: kids have piano at four, you know, soccer at five,

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Speaker 4: and then dinner at seven, and then homework at eight

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Speaker 4: thirty and gotta be in bed by nine whatever. You

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Speaker 4: can't just swoop in change their entire you know, schedule.

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Speaker 4: Schedule is huge when you have a family. Like for me,

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Speaker 4: most part, you do live that, and that's what makes

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Speaker 4: them feel more secure. So I kind of get where

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Speaker 4: if maybe Mauricio's taking it like, well, PK comes in

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Speaker 4: and he's trying to see him when he is in town.

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Speaker 4: Maybe he is only in town every couple weeks or whatever.

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Speaker 4: He's living his best life and he wants to just

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Speaker 4: Jurite to say, well, it doesn't work that way, PK.

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Speaker 3: You want to see the kids. Let's get it on

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Speaker 3: the books.

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Speaker 4: We'll move some of their schedule around. You can take

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Speaker 4: him more, but here's the schedule to follow. Get them

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Speaker 4: to their get them to their piano, get them to

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Speaker 4: their karate, get them to their you know what I mean,

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Speaker 4: Like I don't know, I don't know. That's why it's

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Speaker 4: like it's really hard to decide for who's really right

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Speaker 4: right now between p K Andry. It really is for

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Speaker 4: me because I can sit back and go, eh, I

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Speaker 4: could see where it could be.

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Speaker 3: A little bit of both.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, and you're right, and you're right, You're right.

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Speaker 1: One thing that redid say is everything you just said.

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Speaker 1: She did say in her defense that look, he wants

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Speaker 1: to see them when he pops up, and no, they

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Speaker 1: have things to do.

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Speaker 2: They have a skill. You can't just pop up. So

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Speaker 2: you are right.

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Speaker 3: So perhaps to your Maria is taking it that way.

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Speaker 4: Maybe Brici is like, look, she's saying no, but Marius

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Speaker 4: is not thinking, well, PK just flew in for two

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Speaker 3: But they have a concert they have that they have

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Speaker 3: to play in, they have a you know, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's just a way.

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Speaker 2: Until Duck feels safer. Yeah, sometimes these memories were.

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Speaker 4: Turned as flacks.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that was interesting.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, well, now who else is on our pod today?

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Speaker 3: Carlos A I p K.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So no, you raised a good point. You rased

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Speaker 1: a good point, and that's why for me. Look, DEI

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Speaker 1: and Kyle will never be friends. I'm not sure if

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Speaker 1: you saw this. But Durriiy was on Watch What Happens

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Speaker 1: Live on Thursday and and Diggy did ask Duried He said, look,

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Speaker 1: you know there's you know, rumors that Kyle and Mauricio

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Speaker 1: were hanging out having fun and Asppen possibly getting back together.

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Speaker 2: What do you think about that?

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Speaker 1: Duri's direct response, and I quote she said, oh, this

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Speaker 1: is so boring. Everybody knows that Maurice and Kyle and

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Speaker 3: So I don't know, I see you rest in the world.

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Speaker 1: So Amanda tells Kyle that look some guy as if

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Speaker 3: Seventeen alligator bags. I have a ton of them, a

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Speaker 2: Ever with I love it.

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Speaker 4: She might as well just said, you have a booger

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Speaker 1: Like so I love hecause she's calling things out and listen,

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Speaker 3: Own work nightmare.

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Speaker 4: You know that if the more you don't want to

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Speaker 3: Five rain drops. Okay, oh rain drops.

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Speaker 4: If you have people to work with you, you become

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Speaker 4: You don't even mean to, you just do because they

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Speaker 3: Let's get to the more of the story, you know,

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Speaker 3: So what do you do?

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Speaker 1: I think look, when Amanda confronted something about it, this

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Speaker 2: They want everybody to be perfect? Right something last season

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Speaker 3: Are you talking about?

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Speaker 4: Is this outfit? Why is like her her glamor? Or

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Speaker 1: Okay, personality? Like she she just blended in with the couch,

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Speaker 2: Dissipated at the reunion. Well, bother is me about?

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Speaker 1: Reality starts when they do this and listen, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: Lexis Milino.

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Speaker 1: Is when they have a tough season and in the

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Speaker 2: You know. I'm I'm a wallflower.

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Speaker 1: I'm an angel and I I'm trying to learn more

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Speaker 4: Tell me, why then, why do you think that you

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Speaker 3: Realize I don't like that about me. I'm going to

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Speaker 4: That's probably what Sutton did. So why are you so

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Speaker 4: like Debbie Downer right now that you don't believe that.

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Speaker 2: She's Debbie, she's no because you're.

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Speaker 4: You are saying, you're saying it's all bull crap, that

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Speaker 3: Tell me where? You don't why? You don't believe why?

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Speaker 1: You saying, you say things that a lot of people

441
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:35,680
Speaker 1: won't say. I find that to be interesting. Right, Sutton

442
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 1: lost guard sell last season and Sutton said things to

443
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,199
Speaker 1: Dory that I found to be a good read. But

444
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 1: unfortunately the moral police of social media read her for it.

445
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,400
Speaker 1: So when she comes in this season. The reason why

446
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,360
Speaker 1: she let Avy go, in my opinion, is because Sutton

447
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,399
Speaker 1: is trying to not become that same person last season.

448
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,679
Speaker 1: I believe that Ibvy knows a lot about Suddon and

449
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 1: maybe was maybe influenced Sudden a way. I believe Ivy

450
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 1: gave Sudden reads. I believe he told her how to

451
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 1: drag dor read. It did not work in her favor.

452
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 1: She dismissed him. You see that Sudden is a control freak.

453
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,439
Speaker 1: The way she speaks to Jennifer Tilly is so rude,

454
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 1: it's so nasty because she feels like, I we're gonna

455
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 1: get into this too. She feels like, Jennifer Tilly, you

456
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 1: may have more money than me, but I brought you

457
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,120
Speaker 1: on the show and I could take you out.

458
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 2: And that's the reason why she is very snippy.

459
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 1: So she hasn't in her but she's trying her best

460
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 1: to appear to be this evolved woman. And yes, you

461
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:50,920
Speaker 1: can't call it as a person. However, who you are

462
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 1: is who you are. And I don't believe for one

463
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 1: second that Sudden is all of a sudden the second

464
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 1: coming of Christ.

465
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 2: And it's who who doesn't.

466
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 1: Have the kick that she used to have. I think

467
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,719
Speaker 1: it's all bullshit and performative.

468
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 4: She's okay, Wow, She's definitely still got her little stings.

469
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,120
Speaker 3: She Sutton still does her stings like that has.

470
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 4: Not that is not lost at all like in her

471
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 4: new you know, revival of Sutton Brown. But so I

472
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 4: do hear and see that with what you're saying. However,

473
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,400
Speaker 4: I do feel that she's trying. I feel like she's

474
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 4: in a little bit of a vortex. Let's just say.

475
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,679
Speaker 4: I think she's in her own vortex because of the

476
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 4: fact that she is wanting to make these changes. She

477
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 4: has lost two very important people in her life. She

478
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,400
Speaker 4: didn't like how it was last season. Now three people

479
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 4: actually because Garcel too. I think all of this plays

480
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 4: in Sutton's minds where she's like, I kind of want

481
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 4: to be different, I want to do different, I want

482
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,439
Speaker 4: to be better. But her zingers still come in full effect.

483
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,640
Speaker 4: And you're right, you can't take the leopard, can't change

484
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 4: its stice.

485
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 3: It's spots.

486
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 4: So she she still has her spots. Can she evolve

487
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 4: a little?

488
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 2: Yeah?

489
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 3: Is this the season that I'm gonna believe it's happened?

490
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 4: In all of her therapy and life, coaches and everything

491
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 4: is working. No, I think she's got a couple more seasons.

492
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 4: We're going to need to see all of this happen.

493
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 4: But I think he might be right. I think she

494
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 4: might just go back to the old sudden. I think

495
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 4: she's just gonna be like, I'm just gonna stay myself.

496
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,400
Speaker 3: I can't, I can't try to be a bad person.

497
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 1: Yes, and that's what and and Amanda, listen, I know

498
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: that Amanda, unfortunately is trying to do her job and

499
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: rain drops hear me out. Cut Amanda some slack because

500
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: as a newbie, she's trying to find her footing. And

501
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:45,679
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this, she also is being encouraged to

502
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 1: bring things up.

503
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 2: That is true. That is true when she.

504
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 1: Walks in giving a horrible Jennifer Lawrence performance of breaking

505
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 1: up a topic, is because she's encouraged to do it.

506
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 1: It's real, but she was told to do it, So

507
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 1: cut her some some slack. However, when Sutton said, I

508
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 1: know what you're doing, Amanda, You're you're you're trying to

509
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: get attention, which translation alexis as you know, you're trying

510
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,360
Speaker 1: to get a moment out of me to make your

511
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 1: mark on the show.

512
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 4: Right, The same as that have the exact same take

513
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 4: as you one million percent. But the part that you

514
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 4: know the rain drops don't know because they haven't filmed

515
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 4: most of them haven't filmed a reality show, is that

516
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,239
Speaker 4: the producers are telling you what you need to bring up.

517
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 4: Like if they know something, they're like, you can't go

518
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 4: sit there and just drink your your your alani and

519
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 4: and your iced tea and go on. You've got to

520
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 4: go and talk about this and just get it out

521
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,360
Speaker 4: on the table. And so, yeah, she's doing her she's

522
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 4: doing her talking points, she's doing her jobs, period, You're right,

523
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:51,919
Speaker 4: and so so you can't blame her. So you do

524
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 4: need to give Amanda a chance, just like you do

525
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 4: anybody else because there's i mean, every single one of

526
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 4: them have had times where you know that that was

527
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,479
Speaker 4: a talking point, that they knew that during that or

528
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 4: that shopping fest or whatever they're doing, was meant to

529
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 4: have this talked about right now on camera. You know

530
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 4: that when you're you know, you can see it. So

531
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,439
Speaker 4: all the housewives have to do it. So it's not

532
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 4: just Amanda. Amanda's just getting a little bit of a

533
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 4: hard knock because she is the newbie, and every newbie

534
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 4: has to go through this. There's you know, every newbie

535
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 4: goes through the induct what's it called induction or you know,

536
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 4: the hazing process or whatever, where America kind of hates

537
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 4: you or doesn't like X, Y and Z about you,

538
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 4: but then they start to fall in love with you.

539
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 3: So it's just part of the process.

540
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, agreed, agreed, Agree, And that's why for

541
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: me is one of those things where I'm just sort

542
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 1: of like, look, the producers don't tell you what to say.

543
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: This is me speaking as producer. We don't tell you

544
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 1: what to say. But in terms of story, yes, if

545
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: you're just beIN making a producer, because let me tell

546
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: you hard words, and Alexa, you stop me if I'm wrong.

547
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 1: And granted, granted all production works differently, but Alex, but

548
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 1: Alexa's being a reality star.

549
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 2: She can tell you, guys if I am if I'm

550
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 2: not telling the truth. Okay.

551
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: Every week the reality girlies, they speak to their producer,

552
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: how is your week, what's going on? How do you

553
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 1: feel about so and so, how did you feel about

554
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 1: that scene?

555
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 2: Lah? Blah blah.

556
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: Right, Amanda, in my opinion, told her producers. Hey, by

557
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: the way, you know, Abby said this to me about Sutton,

558
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: and the producer goes, okay, right, So our job as

559
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 1: producers is to find the right moment when that can

560
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: come out.

561
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 2: Right. So the producers told, in my opinion, allegedly.

562
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: Told Amanda, hey, remember what you told us, Yes, tell

563
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: Kyle okay. So she tells Kyle right. The producer, hey,

564
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: when you're front of Sutton, bring it up to Ston okay.

565
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: So again, we don't tell you what you say, but

566
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: if you do tell us something about a cast number,

567
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: all you're light or whatever that we find to be

568
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: interesting for the show, we do encourage you to bring

569
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: it up at the right moment. And that's what a

570
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: man that was doing, and that's why sut and clopped

571
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: it and said she wants attention, which means more camera

572
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: time exactly.

573
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 4: But you know, in fairness to Amanda and what you

574
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 4: said about the you know, it's basically storyline.

575
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 3: The producers need to move the storyline along.

576
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 4: Otherwise you're going to sit and watch a TV show

577
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 4: that's like watching paint dry, and it's going to lose

578
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,959
Speaker 4: every viewer it has and the show is going to die.

579
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 4: So at the same time, you have to you have

580
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 4: to understand it. You have to put story along the

581
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 4: line along. The producers have to, like you said, find

582
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 4: the time for the cast member to mention it. But

583
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 4: also you can't and then you can't mention something one

584
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 4: episode and not you know, have it brought back up

585
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 4: again to have the final closure of that one topic.

586
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 3: You have to you have to follow through.

587
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 4: So because of this ABVI story with Amanda, Amanda now

588
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 4: has to bring it up to for a few certain people,

589
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 4: they're gonna have to have closure on it.

590
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 3: It's gonna be brought up with the reunion now.

591
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 4: But it's like it's part of what makes the show

592
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 4: go on because otherwise, especially Beverly Hills are so per slipped.

593
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 4: They wouldn't talk about anything except for how much snow

594
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 4: Big Bear got, and they don't even go to Big Bear,

595
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. It's like, I don't know,

596
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 4: we wouldn't have all the fun that we have if

597
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 4: the producers didn't help say, okay, bring us up now,

598
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 4: or this has to be brought up.

599
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's a team.

600
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: Work, it's team marked, it's a team effort, and you're right, listen,

601
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: the reason why it's a slow burn this season two

602
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: is because none of these girls and Alexis.

603
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 2: I would love to get your POV. Listen, Listen, Linda, Linda, listen.

604
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: Ohc honey, honey, honey, honey. The reason why OC is

605
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: celebrating their upcoming twentieth season is because past and press

606
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: it those OC girls.

607
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 2: Alexis shout out to you as well. Y'all bring shit

608
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 2: up and hold feet to the fire.

609
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: One thing about the OC girlies is when you and

610
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: I would love I would love to get your opinion

611
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: on this because I never asked you this even privately.

612
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: When you, Alexis, would be at like a dinner scene

613
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: with the girls, right, would you know, like something's gonna happen,

614
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: like we're at dinner, Like, are you girlies aware that

615
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: all right? If I'm not the person that gonna break

616
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: up something, somebody else is And are you guys just

617
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: waiting for the shoot to drop and you're like cutting

618
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: your stake?

619
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 2: Alexis nodding for my listeners.

620
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 4: It is so spot on, you know, And the problem

621
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 4: is that when it gets scary, when you start your

622
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 4: your your butt starts to pucker.

623
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 3: A little bit, is when you know or when you

624
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 3: don't know who it's gonna be about. Because that means

625
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 3: it's probably you.

626
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,479
Speaker 4: So you're hoping that you've heard a little, you know,

627
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 4: some some little whisper in your voice that oh, tonight

628
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 4: we're gonna tell you know, you know, uh Gina about

629
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 4: you know, I.

630
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 3: Don't know, we're gonna talk about her DUI back in

631
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 3: you know, decade ago or whatever.

632
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 4: But it's like, it's like, if you don't know what

633
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 4: that dinner is gonna be about, you're sitting there going,

634
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 4: holy crap, it's probably me.

635
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 3: So you are bracing for impact. You are cutting that steak,

636
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 3: but you're cutting out like this. Carlos, you were like, uh,

637
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 3: who's gonna do it?

638
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 2: Who's bringing it to me? I'm ready?

639
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 3: Guys, you.

640
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 4: Might be acting. You might be eating like this. Carlos,

641
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 4: you might be doing this an acting, you know, because

642
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 4: you're like, but inside you are doing the whole.

643
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 3: I'm giving you that steak some buck takes. Somebody's eyes

644
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 3: are right now because I know they're going to bring

645
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 3: something up that I don't really want to talk about.

646
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 4: But I know it's got to be me because I

647
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 4: didn't hear any whisper or chatter about who this dinner's about.

648
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: And guess what, I've always learned is you're gonna love this.

649
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: If you don't have the beat, you are the beat.

650
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 4: Okay, that's exactly what I just said, but you said

651
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 4: it's so much more profoundly that's exactly the truth.

652
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, so you know, but that's okay, you know.

653
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 4: Because that's part of the show. That's part of what

654
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 4: you're doing. You're there for a reason. Yeah, bring the ratings, to.

655
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 2: Bring the ratings, and that's why for me.

656
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: So when you watch the Billie here girls at the Table,

657
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: so again a man that brought it up some and

658
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: shuts it down.

659
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 2: She says she's uncomfortable talking about it.

660
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: I feel like if we had Tamra, Emily, Gina, Alexis,

661
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: Heather Vicki, Shannon.

662
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 5: Jen somebody would say, okay, but why don't you want

663
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 5: to tell it to me?

664
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: Is the most obvious question to ask somebody, Like, while

665
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: I understand you guys for friends, you also have to

666
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: understand where we're coming from.

667
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 2: You want us to adore you the way Garcel did you, the.

668
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: Way you Sutton asked us all these questions about p

669
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 1: que my money, Tom Girardi, my case. It is weird

670
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: that you don't have him anymore. Can you let us

671
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 1: in us something? And I felt like, that's why I'm

672
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: giving Aman the grace because to me, it was just

673
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 1: odd that nobody wanted to ask a follow up question.

674
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 4: I think that was so bizarre that all seven or

675
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 4: eight women sat around that table and did not do

676
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 4: what you said, which OC women would have done. One

677
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 4: of the women in OC would have been like, okay, Sutton,

678
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 4: but then just give us, give us.

679
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 3: A grain of salt, give us one grain of why

680
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 3: it blew up.

681
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 4: I get that you're hurt, but there's a reason and

682
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 4: there's something you don't want to talk about, kind of.

683
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 3: Like Kyle was.

684
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 4: You know, it goes back to Kyle does the exact

685
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 4: same thing. When Kyle kept pur slift about her relationship.

686
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 4: Once she said it's because my partner did not want

687
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 4: to be talked about and does not want to be

688
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 4: talked about. Everyone goes, oh, that's why you were being

689
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 4: so you know, evasive about it. However, Sutton is doing

690
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 4: it and instead of the women, all the women set

691
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,439
Speaker 4: around at that dinner and when she's like, I don't

692
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,439
Speaker 4: ever want to talk about it again, and you guys

693
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 4: can talk behind my back, but do not bring it

694
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 4: up in front of me, and every woman just sat

695
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 4: there and was like okay. It's like, hey, old, I'm

696
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 4: not going to go okay, you're on a reality show.

697
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 4: You're on a reality show. You need to tell us

698
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 4: what the hell happened. And even if you don't want

699
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,959
Speaker 4: to talk about it, say you know what it ended

700
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 4: kind of ugly. We got into a fight. We did

701
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 4: not end on good terms. That's all you need to know.

702
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 3: We're not.

703
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 4: But she's she's being so elusive or evasive. What word

704
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 4: am I looking for here? But it's like it brings

705
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 4: more elusive, it brings more attention to it, you know,

706
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 4: and the other women. That's the difference between OC and

707
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 4: Beverly Hills. Those women Beverly Hills just go, you know,

708
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 4: kind of just like okay, change the subjects, let's move on.

709
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 3: And OC people do not do that. We do not

710
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 3: us girls, do not let that go. We are going

711
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 3: to get to the bottom of it.

712
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 4: Whether it's this dinner or seven dinners later, We're going

713
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 4: to get to the bottom.

714
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,919
Speaker 2: I like to stand whether this dinner or seven dinners later.

715
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 4: But guess up there you might as well, you know what,

716
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 4: everyone's kind of watching their clock going I don't want

717
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 4: to have seven more of these.

718
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 3: This is grueling. Can you just bring out the bullshit

719
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 3: now and tell us the truth so that we can

720
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 3: move on.

721
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 4: In the next dinner, maybe we can have a lollipop

722
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,399
Speaker 4: dessert instead of like this, Like I.

723
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 1: Mean, that's that's my issue when they are around each

724
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: other and nobody wants to bring it up.

725
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 2: So Amanda, listen, Amanda was doing.

726
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 1: Her job this this episode, so not only did what

727
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: Alexis said happened where Sun said and.

728
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,439
Speaker 2: Don't break it up around me. I do not want

729
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 2: to talk about anymore. You are talking behind my back.

730
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: Do behind my back exactly. Don't break it up to me.

731
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: And they're like, okay, girl, Amanda says.

732
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 2: Bitch, I'm new I'm doing it again.

733
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 1: So then Amanda, well, the second night at dinner, goes, hey, Sutton, are.

734
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 6: You still upset about what happened yesterday? You called me

735
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 6: missy in the kitchen and you know you didn't seem

736
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 6: like yourself. You know, you had the main course, and

737
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 6: she goes, I have the main course and about the girls,

738
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 6: about the proteas.

739
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 3: It is kind of true, though, Carlos. But first of all,

740
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 3: let me let me start with this.

741
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 4: It is true that Sutton, Sorry, honey, you didn't have

742
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 4: the main course, because everyone's waiting for the bird or

743
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 4: their or their or their cow.

744
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 3: They want that on their plate.

745
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,959
Speaker 4: And unless they're vegetarian like Carlos King, they're wanting their

746
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 4: They're wanting their bird.

747
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 3: Or their cow, you know, or their fish.

748
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 4: And then they are gonna put a little bite apasta

749
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 4: for us that want to see slim. We eat two

750
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 4: bites of pasta and you know, and then they're gonna

751
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 4: have their their pile of greens.

752
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 3: That's that's it.

753
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 4: So I'm sorry you didn't have the main course. But

754
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:11,240
Speaker 4: what kills me if on this episode and about this dinner.

755
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 4: These women have their glam squad and they're getting here

756
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 4: and make up of the clucket to go have a

757
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 4: thirty minute dinner and go wipe.

758
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 2: It all off. I spit it out.

759
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 3: Let's just spend an hour and a half in makeup

760
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 3: from ten to eleven, go have dinner from eleven to eleven,

761
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 3: thirty or forty five, and then we're gonna go watch

762
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:30,280
Speaker 3: it all off to bed.

763
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: I was like, I.

764
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 4: Want to come with no makeup, no glam, hair in

765
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 4: a ponytail like.

766
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 2: Like, I'm ready, let's go, guys.

767
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 4: I would have at that point, I probably would have

768
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 4: come down in my pajamas, you know, like just I'm

769
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 4: just gonna throw my pajamas on, eat a morsel while

770
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 4: y'all look glad.

771
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 3: That's fine, but it's a waste of an hour a

772
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 3: half of my time to have my hair.

773
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 4: Makeup done for me to go wipe it all off

774
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 4: and go to bed.

775
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 3: But I need my bird first. I need my chicken

776
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 3: in my mouth.

777
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: And then yeah, she's like, look you have the protein.

778
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 1: So sorry, that's what it was. And I'm like, I listen,

779
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, guys. I love him, Mamma. She's the only

780
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: one working. And once again she brings up the elephant

781
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: in the room, and Sutton starts crying because she's like,

782
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: why are you doing this to me again?

783
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 2: And Erica's even like, look what you said, Alex is like,

784
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 2: look it is weird. Bring it up. What happened?

785
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 4: Like you're politely yet politely trying to be like, Sutton,

786
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 4: just put this to rest, put it to rest, and

787
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,720
Speaker 4: let's be done with it. Erica was very gently trying

788
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 4: to do that with Suddon. It went right over Sutton's head.

789
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 4: Sutton just does not want to talk about it. You

790
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 4: know that this will make a good reunion though, because

791
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 4: I know Andy Cohen will not just let this go.

792
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 4: Andy Cohen's going to get to the bottom of it

793
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 4: at third Union and be like, Sutton, we're here. You

794
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 4: got to tell us what the hell happened because it's

795
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 4: not dying down. You've made the story even bigger because

796
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 4: you don't want to talk about it.

797
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,439
Speaker 3: Just just tell us what's happening. Like I'm hoping that'll happen.

798
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 3: If it doesn't happen at one of the next seven dinners, No.

799
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 2: It needs happened. And I I will say this.

800
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: Ston said that, you know she she doesn't believe that

801
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: Abby said that that He said call me, I'll give

802
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 1: you a t which made me think, oh, oh.

803
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 3: I do I believe said it?

804
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 2: Tell me why?

805
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 3: Because there's no way.

806
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 4: It's too much like like Amanda's new she doesn't really

807
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 4: know much, you know about the behind the scenes kind

808
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,240
Speaker 4: of stuff. It's like her friend. She even named her friend, Alana.

809
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 4: She even named the friend that was there that talked

810
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 4: to Abby.

811
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 3: You know what, Page six is not hard to get

812
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 3: ahold of.

813
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 4: Abby needs to call page six and put his story

814
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 4: out there and tell everybody so we can all just like.

815
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 2: Me and you Alexis and come around.

816
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 3: Okay, auvy d m us for our phone number. Hey, Abby,

817
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 3: we need to hear the story. Like, let's just get

818
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 3: it out there, okay, and.

819
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: Unlike, oh see, we will not distort your voice. What

820
00:40:54,200 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: do you mean what remember when the person contacted Gina.

821
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 4: Oh sorry, Abby, we are gonna you are going to

822
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 4: have a face to put with the name.

823
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 2: In your voice.

824
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 4: You no, No, we are Yeah, we're gonna bring true truth.

825
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,240
Speaker 2: Yes, you know where to find us. Okay.

826
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: The reason why I believe listen, I grew through I

827
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: think Abby did say it. Now, the reason why felt

828
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: confidence saying I don't think he said it. One thing

829
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: I do believe happened. I believe Abby did sign an

830
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: ironclad n d A.

831
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 4: Oh so he can't come to us, Carlos, that would

832
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 4: be a contract.

833
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

834
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: So she felt so confident when she was like, I

835
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: don't believe he said it.

836
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 2: I believe that he signed an n d A.

837
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: And son, if he did not have one, you're crazy

838
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: because you're sounding and he should have No, you.

839
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 4: Gotta have an India for a employee that you have

840
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 4: when you're on TV. But so maybe, but here's the

841
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 4: other thing. Does the NDA, I guess it would.

842
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 2: It would.

843
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,479
Speaker 4: It would mean even for a like telling your side

844
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 4: of why you got fired or why you got let go.

845
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it would. It's bad.

846
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 3: Oh so then he's never going to reach out to us,

847
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 3: dang it.

848
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 1: If he did side one, That's why it is interesting

849
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:27,240
Speaker 1: because look, if he did say it, it is weird

850
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: to make a comment like that knowing you did. But

851
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 1: I agree with you, Alexis. I don't think Amanda will

852
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: make that up.

853
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 2: It's so bizarre.

854
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 4: So maybe maybe maybe he said it and he knows

855
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 4: he can't really like, let's just say he said this

856
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 4: to put a little dig dig on Sutton because even

857
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 4: he knows, even if Amanda does call, or she he

858
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 4: did call Amanda, he can't give her any information. But

859
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 4: it's still gay. It still put a dagger in Sutton's heart.

860
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 4: So maybe that was behind the closed door, like behind

861
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:59,240
Speaker 4: the doorway of getting to Sutton and being like, yeah, girl,

862
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 4: I can't tell the story because I signed an ironclad NDA,

863
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 4: but I'm still going to jab ye'll lit'tle give you

864
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 4: a little run for your back, because Sutton does seem

865
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 4: way too You're right, she seems way.

866
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 3: Too calm about like, oh, is he gonna really tell

867
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:11,280
Speaker 3: his side?

868
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,919
Speaker 4: It has to be that they have the nda has

869
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 4: to be because she's wait, yeah, yeah, yeah.

870
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's true. It's true.

871
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,280
Speaker 1: That's why I'm like, Okay, on second thought, I agree

872
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: with you, Like it's sort of the sting that look,

873
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: I believe Avi was hurt whatever happened, even Jennifer Tilly's

874
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: like I expected it to be, like Okay, they're mad

875
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: at each other or she's mad at Oh yeah, let

876
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 1: me come back.

877
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 4: When you have an employee that's basically like your best

878
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 4: friend or you like my hair and makeup.

879
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 3: Girl's been with me for twenty years, you know. My

880
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 3: sister's been with me for four or five years.

881
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 4: Like, when you have people that are that close to

882
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 4: you and work with you, you do form a true friendship.

883
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 4: So regardless of what happened between Sutton and Auby, it's

884
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 4: still gonna hurt, and both of them probably hurt. They're

885
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 4: both probably hurt, and Abby probably does I still want

886
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 4: his job with Sutton. I mean it would be wouldn't

887
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 4: be a fun job. I'd love to be Ston's assistant.

888
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,760
Speaker 4: I mean, although I wouldn't take her shit, probably probably

889
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:07,399
Speaker 4: be a little bit more.

890
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 3: I don't know. I might have lost my job one

891
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 3: day two, but.

892
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 4: Anyway, I mean it would be fun to be her assistant.

893
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 4: So I'm sure obvious sad, you know, but I think

894
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 4: Sutton's her too. She had tears. Those were legitimate tears.

895
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 4: That was not a fake cry like some OC people

896
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 4: have done. It was real tears. Okay, so there's pain.

897
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 2: I picked up what you dropped. Thank you.

898
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: Okay, all of that being said, alexis either way for me, Okay,

899
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: but just yeah, Jennifer Tieley, Oh, she's trying to like

900
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: have conversation with someting. Sun shuts her down and then

901
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: she goes to the bathroom with Kyle and then she

902
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,439
Speaker 1: drops the bomb and says, this is the reason why

903
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: Garcel left because when it's about Sutton, Sutton only wants

904
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: it to be about her. And I'm like, oh shit,

905
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: Jennifer Tilly just dropped the bomb of the episode that

906
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 1: this is who you are.

907
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 2: It has to be about you.

908
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 3: But do you believe do you? Okay?

909
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 4: Because she said she phrased it like my view on it,

910
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 4: And I don't know, we'd have to rewatch it to

911
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 4: get the thing.

912
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 3: But my view on that was Sutton or Jennifer Tilly.

913
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 4: Who I love and she's just so funny. I like

914
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 4: seeing her Sirius side this time too. But I took

915
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 4: it like Jennifer said, maybe this is why Garcel had

916
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 4: had enough, because Jennifer's got and you know, they did

917
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 4: go they did flash back and show just this season

918
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 4: where Sutton has snapped at and been a little bit

919
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 4: at Jennifer, you know. And the thing is is you,

920
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 4: you know, just like when your kids slammed the door

921
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 4: in your face, but they're not mad at you.

922
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:50,760
Speaker 3: They're really mad at something that happened at school.

923
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, it's like you do take things out

924
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 4: of the person closest to you.

925
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 3: So I wonder if that's part of what's going on

926
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:57,720
Speaker 3: with Sutton.

927
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 4: But also there are very there are several that you

928
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 4: can rack up on your fingers of times where sudden

929
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 4: bit at Jennifer out of a little bit out of line.

930
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 4: And I thought Jennifer was just saying, maybe this is

931
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 4: why Garcel left. Maybe this has something to do with it,

932
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 4: because it's always about Sutton. But you're saying you think

933
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 4: Jennifer knows this is why Garcel left, or is that

934
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 4: you think Jennifer has more knowledge and thinks in this Okay, yeah, wow.

935
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 4: Is Jennifer and gar are Jennifer and Garcel friends?

936
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 2: Yeah?

937
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 3: Friendly? Oh they are?

938
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: Well, they're yeah, they're friendly. Courtesy of obviously Son introducing.

939
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: But I believe that, Look, you know this, when you're

940
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: not filming, or after you're you're filming, rather you talk,

941
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: you know, like after you're done filming, you go with

942
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 1: your girlfriend and you recap what happened.

943
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 2: I think Suddon and Garcel did that.

944
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 1: Jennifer tib was in the room, and I think Garcela

945
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: had a lot of things to say because Garcel did

946
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: say last season and you have to go. Garcel did

947
00:46:52,480 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 1: say last season to Sutton, the conversations we have off camera,

948
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: I bring them up on camera. You don't have my

949
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: back as if you don't feel this way.

950
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 3: But I thought, okay, correct me if I'm wrong.

951
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 4: I thought, because I did watch the reunion last year

952
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 4: before we started recapping this, just so I could kind

953
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 4: of get a sense of the women, right, So I

954
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 4: don't I didn't watch the whole season, so I need

955
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 4: your help on this. But I thought that Garcel completely

956
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 4: cut off Sutton, like Sutton has not talked to her

957
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 4: after filming is done. I thought Sutton doesn't know why

958
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 4: Garcel ever left and has completely avoided the friendship and

959
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 4: there is no friendship. I thought Garcel ghosted Sutton. But

960
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 4: you're making it seem.

961
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: Like you you did after the reunion Garcel ghosted Sutton. However, However,

962
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: all of last season, before the reunion, uh huh, camera,

963
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: Garcel would bring up Kyle's relationship with Morgan and ask

964
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: questions around Kyle and to Kyle while Sutton was there,

965
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 1: and Garcel would be like, we feel this way, and

966
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 1: we'll look at like, well, bitch, are you not going

967
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 1: to tell how you feel? And I will be silent,

968
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: and Garcel would say, interview, we talked about this off camera,

969
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: and I'm bringing it up and you're quiet as a

970
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: church mouse.

971
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,280
Speaker 3: But I thought that you and I had this conversation.

972
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 4: And it's kind of like there are times when you

973
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 4: film with your castmates where you say, this is not

974
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 4: a TV conversation, especially if it's about your kid, if

975
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 4: it's about something you really don't want to be brought

976
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 4: up on TV. Don't you think that maybe Garcel or

977
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 4: some and said I don't want to talk about this

978
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 4: on camera and Garcel overstepped her footing. Or do you

979
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 4: feel like you feel like whatever you say to your

980
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,399
Speaker 4: castmate during filming season, it should just be all all

981
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 4: It should all be for you know, it can be

982
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 4: all be used because I don't I feel like if

983
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 4: you tell your friend please don't please don't talk about this.

984
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 4: I'm just telling you something that's really hard for me today.

985
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 4: I just don't want to talk about it. It's not

986
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 4: storylined this and that I feel like if you have

987
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 4: a true friendship, not a TV friendship, your true friend

988
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 4: is gonna honor that. So I would have felt like

989
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 4: Sutton and Garcel had that conversation off camera and Sutton

990
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 4: was sitting or going I didn't want to bring up

991
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 4: on camera and Garcel just did anyway, Okay.

992
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: No, no, Because the thing is Garcel said it a

993
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: couple of times and even even confronted something about it,

994
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 1: and Sutton never said that because I do I do

995
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:26,240
Speaker 1: believe strongly Garcel was such a good friend of Sutton

996
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 1: that if Sun said I don't want to bring it up.

997
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 1: Garcel will never do it because because because because Garcella

998
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: also had that stance when it came to seeing Erica

999
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 1: Jane say something about her children.

1000
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 2: So they do have that pact, right, all the girls do.

1001
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 2: Don't bring this up.

1002
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: But I don't believe that Ston ever told garselves we

1003
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: can gossip about this, just don't bring it up on camera,

1004
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: because Gel, as a true friend, would have respected Sutton's request.

1005
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 4: Okay, well, then that is something that they just have

1006
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 4: to work out together. I mean that's probably why they're

1007
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 4: not friends then, because Garcel's like, why are you freezing

1008
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 4: up on me?

1009
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 2: Why?

1010
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:05,919
Speaker 3: Why are you? It makes you feel like you don't

1011
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 3: really know your friend.

1012
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 4: If they just freeze up on you and you don't

1013
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 4: know the reason why, it makes you think, why are

1014
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 4: you doing this?

1015
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 3: Like what we talked about this?

1016
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 4: You know we're on a reality show. You didn't say,

1017
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 4: don't talk about this on camera. You didn't you didn't

1018
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 4: do a pact with me, like a peaky promise that

1019
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 4: this stays between us, you know? So you're right, that

1020
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 4: could that could you'd finally get tired and burnt out

1021
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 4: on your friend and be like, I.

1022
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 3: Just don't know who you are. I don't because you

1023
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 3: are one way and then you don't you're not. I

1024
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 3: don't know.

1025
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 4: I do feel like I feel like Sutton after we

1026
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 4: keep talking this through. I feel like since last year,

1027
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 4: I think she's kind of having an identity crisis.

1028
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 3: I think she is. I think the last name change

1029
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 3: is a real thing.

1030
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 4: I think she's having identity crisis right now, even last season.

1031
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 4: From what you've said, it sounds like she was even

1032
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 4: starting it then, and I think it's bleeding into this season.

1033
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 4: So maybe by next season, after she's watched all this playback,

1034
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 4: maybe she'll start to get back comfortable with who she

1035
00:50:58,880 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 4: really is.

1036
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 3: Again m hm, I agree with you.

1037
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: I actually agree with you. I think the I didn't

1038
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 1: think about that till you said it. I actually agree

1039
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 1: with you. I think the last name change.

1040
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 3: Just the who last year of her life. I think

1041
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 3: the whole last year of her life.

1042
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 4: Yeah too has been a very big like who am

1043
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 4: I really?

1044
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 3: Who am I?

1045
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: You know?

1046
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 2: Yeah? No good point points are made. Points are made.

1047
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: So next week, rain Drops, we will see what happened

1048
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: when Kyle tells something what Jennifer Tilly said to her. Hey, producers,

1049
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:35,760
Speaker 1: I'm teasy, and we will see.

1050
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 2: And confront Jennifer Tilly about it.

1051
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 3: Did you watch did you watch the trailer for next

1052
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 3: season next week?

1053
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1054
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 3: Oh looks good. I don't know why I like Beverly.

1055
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 4: Hills so much because a lot of people are like,

1056
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 4: it's just too boring, and I'm just like, it is

1057
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 4: not boring to me.

1058
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 3: I am like, I love it.

1059
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,720
Speaker 2: No, no, no, the thing is the thing?

1060
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 1: Is it just having those low burn But listen, we'll

1061
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 1: see what happens. We'll see what happened. But again, Amanda,

1062
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: thank you for your services.

1063
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 4: And maybe you earned your zilch paycheck because they don't

1064
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 4: pay people anything the.

1065
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 3: First year.

1066
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,720
Speaker 4: You're earning your you're earning your your next year's paycheck

1067
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:17,280
Speaker 4: is what you're.

1068
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 2: Doing exactly exactly. Well, Lexus, thank you so much, my love.

1069
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 2: You have a great weekend. I'll see you next week.

1070
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 4: Bye guys, Bye baby bye.

1071
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:34,319
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1072
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 1: produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership with.

1073
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 2: The Lack Effect Network.

1074
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,279
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1075
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,160
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