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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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Speaker 2: Cowboys Blowing out of the backfield, exploding down the sidelines.

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Speaker 1: This he is hanging with the Boys, presented by Wing

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Speaker 1: Stuff Where Flavor gets its wings. Now your hosts Nate Newton,

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Speaker 1: Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross.

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Speaker 3: Thursday Live look at Tostitos Championship out.

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Speaker 4: The Star in Frisco, Texas. Get it out, Jesse, get

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Speaker 4: it out. It is seventy four degrees.

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Speaker 5: The Hohiday of seventy nine, The Load to Night sixty nine.

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Speaker 4: How you get feeling today on Thursday? How you feeling?

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Speaker 6: Yes, you are good. I don't know if I'm feeling

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Speaker 6: as good as just.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad you did that because I'm dragging a little

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Speaker 4: bit today.

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Speaker 6: That got me up.

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Speaker 7: That got me like that, like like I feel I

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Speaker 7: feel power? Why I just do? I just feel I got.

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Speaker 4: Some aggression today.

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Speaker 7: Power.

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Speaker 5: I like it, like the chain, like the I like

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Speaker 5: to fit today.

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Speaker 4: Shoes what shoes and rocking today?

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Speaker 7: Come on?

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Speaker 8: Man?

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Speaker 4: All right, okay, what are the keys?

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Speaker 6: All right?

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Speaker 7: It was a cool.

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Speaker 6: What's up, Nate? I'm doing great? Man? I'm going to

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Speaker 6: find my notes.

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Speaker 4: You have a little trouble with lunch there today?

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Speaker 6: Oh man? Yeah, I had it all over me.

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Speaker 9: I felt like I threw Yeah, I like.

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Speaker 6: I was hanging out with your kids. You know what. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna go find my notes. Y'all won't miss me. Jesse,

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Speaker 6: where are you going?

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Speaker 9: I gotta keep my notes, leave them in the lunch room.

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Speaker 7: You dog ate his homework?

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Speaker 4: Night, Kurt?

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Speaker 7: How you doing somewhere between here and.

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Speaker 8: Let's go?

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Speaker 4: Oh man?

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Speaker 7: All right, well it is Thursday.

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Speaker 4: We got football tonight. Who is Who's the game tonight?

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Speaker 7: Eagles Eagles Vikings?

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Speaker 6: Vikings should be a good one.

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Speaker 7: Eagles? They a little banged up, are they? But the

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Speaker 7: Vikers are banged up too?

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Speaker 4: Where's that Philly?

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Speaker 6: It is in Philly? Remember last year in.

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Speaker 4: For the first half? Anyway, last year?

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Speaker 6: What remember last year?

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Speaker 10: Philly like beat the Brakes off Minnesota the second week

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Speaker 10: of the season, like on like Sunday night or Monday night.

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Speaker 10: So this is Minnesota. I saw the interviews from Justin Jefferson, remember, like, yeah,

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Speaker 10: I'm ready for this game.

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Speaker 4: So we'll see, we will see.

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Speaker 7: They caught the killer.

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Speaker 6: Yes two weeks did you see what he was wearing was.

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Speaker 7: Old in Philadelphia shirt.

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Speaker 6: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they call them, man, we need to do like

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Speaker 3: a current events segment.

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Speaker 7: We've rambled enough.

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Speaker 6: You're right, we'll never get into.

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Speaker 7: The show.

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Speaker 10: Playing on anything that's outside of this whole show is

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Speaker 10: a current.

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Speaker 7: We go off.

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Speaker 4: True, we are walking speaking of current events. Somebody popped

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Speaker 4: up on the d n P yesterday.

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Speaker 3: On the practice report that was not on the radar

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Speaker 3: Brandon cooks need is that what it was?

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Speaker 7: Right now they're calling it a spring grade one m

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Speaker 4: Now what exactly does that mean? Jesse, don't get brit

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Speaker 4: on you, so make sure you're explain this right.

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Speaker 3: Don't preface this by saying I'm not saying this is

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Speaker 3: what he has, but this.

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Speaker 7: Is what This is what they're reporting, because Britt will

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Speaker 7: call you will that's my dude. I love I love

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Speaker 7: me some Britt, But Britt doesn't care you. You you

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Speaker 7: fool around in his apartment.

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Speaker 4: And get a call and be like, when did you

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Speaker 4: get your PhD?

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Speaker 7: That's what he'll say, Brittigo mother, last time I checked,

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Speaker 7: you weren't down here in the train the room. You

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Speaker 7: gotta just go. I'm sorry, man, I got I lost

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Speaker 7: myself on that show that day. Now you got me shook.

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Speaker 7: I don't even want to talk about it.

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Speaker 11: I'm scared, you know, I'm yeah, Brett, we love you.

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Speaker 4: What does a sprain need to a skilled position? Got

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Speaker 4: like a receiver or something? How does that affect you?

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Speaker 7: I can tell you that the grade one is workable.

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Speaker 7: It's like it's you can work through that, right, Like

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Speaker 7: there is enough. We talk about the NFL. They have

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Speaker 7: access to the good drugs. You know, you get a

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Speaker 7: couple of shots of the good drugs, you're good to go.

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Speaker 7: It's it's the for me, it's the okay, it's great

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Speaker 7: one in week two? Is there anything that can take that,

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Speaker 7: you know, a wrong hit or wrong turn. We've been

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Speaker 7: through the whole turf grass discussion. You know, Brandon Cooks

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Speaker 7: is in a young spring chicken anymore. So all those

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Speaker 7: things factor into this type of This type of minor

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Speaker 7: injury today has the potential to be worriousome later on

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Speaker 12: Even risk playing him then, I mean, because they're bear

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Speaker 12: fish to fry coming up then the.

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Speaker 7: Jets, because it's it's one of those things where it's

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Speaker 7: really heal. You have to be like just shut it down.

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Speaker 7: But it's not bad enough to where you have to

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Speaker 7: shut it down and you can still function at a

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Speaker 7: very very high low. It worse only if he gets

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Speaker 7: it hit, Like if he hits it's something like that,

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Speaker 7: you know, but like that's it, So it's manageable.

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Speaker 4: You ever had a sprain one?

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Speaker 7: Sprain one?

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Speaker 4: What is grade one spring octo?

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Speaker 7: My entire mcl Yeah.

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Speaker 4: It's all the same areas. All the cl.

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Speaker 12: And outside or backs are back.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, they all twitched around, And I don't want to

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Speaker 7: start talking medical stuff because you know, yeah, we.

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Speaker 12: Just McCarthy said, Brandon Cooks and Tyler Smith are improving,

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Speaker 12: but they're working with the Reham group. They did not

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Speaker 12: participate in on the cords over there.

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Speaker 4: Probably, Yeah, we'll keep an eye on it.

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Speaker 12: We'll Knowlan Wilson did practice with that's good. Maybe. Hell, Okay,

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Speaker 12: he's getting closer.

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Speaker 13: All right.

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Speaker 4: I guess we'll know more closer to game time then.

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Speaker 7: On Thursday, I mean Thursday, getting pretty close to game time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, okay.

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Speaker 7: They'll start kind of putting out questionable doubtful tomorrow. You

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Speaker 7: don't want doubtful on Fridays, Friday, doubtful on Fridays, and

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Speaker 7: and the words of my good friend Bobby Belt, that's

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Speaker 7: when you have to start giving Bible verses about prayer

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Speaker 7: and healing. If you're doubtful on Friday.

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Speaker 4: Usually if you don't practice on Friday, that means you're

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Speaker 4: not going in the game.

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Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, practically of course, like out it last week,

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Speaker 7: Chris told us that they do different practices. They more

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Speaker 7: chill on Friday and wrap up on Saturday. So you

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Speaker 7: ever had a spring knee, Nate, Yes, I have just

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Speaker 7: find your notes.

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Speaker 9: I know, sir, it's okay, but I've had spring. If

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Speaker 9: it was okay to start with, you could have just said,

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Speaker 9: I don't think.

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Speaker 6: You put out of a p B in the building

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Speaker 6: trying to think for me.

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Speaker 4: You tell them, tell them look.

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Speaker 6: For the everyone.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, tell them why are you trying to think?

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Speaker 4: Tell them why are you doing it?

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Speaker 7: I do I struggled thinking for myself. I cannot take

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Speaker 7: on another load of a thinking for anyone else.

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Speaker 3: Dal All tell them to be on the lookout for

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Speaker 3: some scribble with some with some Marinara sauce.

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Speaker 6: That's Nate.

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Speaker 9: Thank you all for jesse Man, Thank you for I

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Speaker 9: know you you didn't anything yet.

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Speaker 6: We just talked.

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Speaker 9: I haven't gotten anything. Bobby Belt, Brandon Cooks's knee, ain't

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Speaker 9: got none problem. I mean he wasn't on the report yesterday. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: it was anyone on the report.

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Speaker 6: I mean it was that was in the notes that

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Speaker 6: he came fut Was it on National?

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Speaker 7: Yes?

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Speaker 12: It was.

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Speaker 6: I forgot phone maker National Now I'm sorry.

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Speaker 7: It was on the Cowboys national NFL report.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, if you say so, Jets offense, Cowboys defense?

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Speaker 5: Where you want to start Jets offense and talk about

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Speaker 5: talk about their offensive.

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Speaker 6: They don't have one.

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Speaker 4: Next question, they don't have an offensive line.

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Speaker 6: They don't. The only thing they can do is run block.

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Speaker 9: If the Cowboys let them run block, then they may

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Speaker 9: have offense.

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Speaker 4: So is that the game plan? Is that their only

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Speaker 6: They better be because.

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Speaker 3: You saw some success early in the Sauce saut.

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Speaker 9: But no, man, go ahead on what's their what?

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Speaker 6: What?

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Speaker 4: What is their offensive line? You say they don't have one?

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Speaker 7: There only did in school?

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Speaker 6: What's that?

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Speaker 7: What's that when you came to class and you probably

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Speaker 7: didn't do your homework?

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Speaker 9: Version if I took time, if I took time to

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Speaker 9: do my homework, which was brown. Oh, I made I

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Speaker 9: wanted to Clay teach look at him. The teachers saying, hey,

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Speaker 9: y'all'st the new work. Oh yeah, I'm gonna lose that man.

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Speaker 7: But I look at that.

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Speaker 6: That's a that's a nice shot. Yeah yeah, Oh look

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Speaker 6: at the pearly white. They're all originally too, are they? Yeah,

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Speaker 6: te man, Yes, I got the man's back here. I

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Speaker 6: don't stop me. We're going to talk about we're trying

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Speaker 6: to try to want. I tell you what, Only Jets,

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Speaker 6: I'm glad you're on our show.

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Speaker 9: Only you could do make us believe that the Jets

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Speaker 9: get blocked.

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Speaker 6: The Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: They're gonna chip and.

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Speaker 7: I can sell some hope.

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Speaker 14: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I I can sell water to a well. I can

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Speaker 7: sell panties to a stripper.

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Speaker 6: I can do it all right.

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Speaker 7: Oh I can't sell this. Really is that the they

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Speaker 7: don't have like even like the thing is, you hear names, right,

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Speaker 7: you hear Mikai Beckton and you hear Dwayne Brown, Like

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Speaker 7: those are notable names. Their game and their names don't match,

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Speaker 7: like it just it just doesn't. The one thing that

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Speaker 7: I saw that that they did have success doing the

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Speaker 7: Jets offensively they're gonna they have no choice but to

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Speaker 7: try to run the football. How they're going to do it.

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Speaker 7: You're gonna see twenty two personnel. You're gonna see thirteen personnel.

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Speaker 7: Explain that as yet twenty two personnel. Well, you're barely

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Speaker 7: going to see a lot of thirteen personnel. You're gonna

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Speaker 7: see three tight ends. They're gonna line up three tight

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Speaker 7: ends to help out on their offensive line. Now, Breese

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Speaker 7: Hall and and and Dalvin Cook two really good running backs.

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Speaker 7: Breecee Hall is the lead dog. He's coming back from

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Speaker 7: his injury, and he wanted to show the world and

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Speaker 7: What they have to do is to make this game ugly.

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Speaker 9: You know, Jesse, I thought it was me when I

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Speaker 9: This is what Nathaniel Hackett is saying, hey son, one two,

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Speaker 6: During hey son? You ain't what We just lost? Right?

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Speaker 7: What what's so hard about that? I guess easier said

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Speaker 7: Reports have been that Aaron Rodgers has kind of been

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Speaker 9: So what you're saying is most dogs around right, and

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Speaker 11: Him when they stopped, the real dogs, the real dog's

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Speaker 6: Did he see enough of Aaron?

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Speaker 7: You know, here's the gift in the curse of being

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Speaker 12: Yeah, No, matter how much he's around him, he can

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Speaker 14: Right.

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Speaker 7: But you, but but you, but you watch Ara sometimes

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Speaker 6: You know what's so amazing.

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Speaker 7: I'll let you get to your point. I remember being

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Speaker 7: And so that's the gift. While you can learn how

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Speaker 7: You just don't have the arm talent, the anticipation, the knowledge,

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Speaker 9: And that's why I don't care how much error Rogers

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Speaker 6: It ain't go work.

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Speaker 9: That's why most great players are not great coaches, because

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Speaker 9: This is rare when you have a Brett Favre followed

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Speaker 7: Their biggest their biggest issue with with the Jets, and

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Speaker 7: They don't they when you watch this offensive line, they

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Speaker 7: If I'm in thirteen protection, I only got one receiver

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Speaker 9: I've been in that situation before when when the Redskin

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Speaker 6: Commanders made their play.

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Speaker 9: But the thing is this here is you're gonna have

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Speaker 9: So when you punt, you're always trying to keep the

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Speaker 9: fifty to fifty game. That's how good I'm thinking our

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Speaker 7: You're not.

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Speaker 4: So one two, run or fall down.

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Speaker 6: And you know what, maybe we're overstating it.

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Speaker 9: Maybe by being so early in the season, maybe I'm

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Speaker 7: Yeah, they're gonna rush the ball thirty plus times this game. Yeah, facts,

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Speaker 12: Was there any concern that because the Giants had success

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, hold that thought.

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Speaker 4: Let's talk about that.

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Speaker 7: Just take a break because I'll pay some bills. Ye oh,

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Speaker 6: Hey, come on, man, it ain't no go only gut

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Speaker 4: All right, we'll be right back. Football on hanging with

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Speaker 5: Cowboys Jets, and we're trying to talk ourselves into this

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Speaker 5: being a good game.

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Speaker 6: Is that what we're trying to do.

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Speaker 9: You No, no, no, no no no no no no,

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Speaker 9: no no no. If coach Salah has this way, this

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Speaker 9: is gonna be a blood bath. If he has this way,

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Speaker 9: he is telling these guys because he think between h

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Speaker 9: Sauce Gardner, DJ Moore is like DJ Reid and Carter

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Speaker 9: their nickelbacker. They saying we got the three receivers, we

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Speaker 9: got to ultra nice linebackers, and Moseley and the Williams kid,

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Speaker 9: we gonna cover the tight ends. They want this to

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Speaker 9: be a dog fight. They want to get down and dirty,

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Speaker 9: and they they already said that Quinn Williams number nine,

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Speaker 9: we winning that on the center and on the left guard,

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Speaker 9: we winning that.

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Speaker 6: Even even if the Williams kid come back. They saying

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Speaker 6: we winning that.

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Speaker 9: It's certain things coach got to say in his mind

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Speaker 9: when he talked to his coach said, these are the players.

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Speaker 6: We think that we can equal this out and we

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Speaker 6: can win right here.

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Speaker 4: So they're hoping to keep it close, mistakes and have

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Speaker 4: good special teams play right to have a chance.

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Speaker 6: They just relying that we on our offense.

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Speaker 9: I'm telling you coach talking to Hacket right now, I

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Speaker 9: look at him, bro uh seven self drop That ain't

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Speaker 9: part of our package this week. Seven sel drop five.

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Speaker 9: I'm telling you I've seen coach Johnson do it. No, no, no,

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Speaker 9: some stuff ain't happening this week, not against Philly, not

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Speaker 9: after them eleven sacks two weeks ago.

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Speaker 6: Let's try three five and we'll be all right. And

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Speaker 6: then later in the game, if we're.

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Speaker 9: Close in need a play, have you one of two plays?

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Speaker 9: I'm telling you, yeah, That's how the good coaches do it.

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Speaker 9: They'll step up to the plate and they won't let you.

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Speaker 9: That's why. And I hate to go back, but I

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Speaker 9: promise you, coach day ball is I'm pronouncing them right.

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Speaker 9: For the Giants, I promise you. He called that kid

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Speaker 9: on the way home. Their quarterback say, man, we ain't

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Speaker 9: gonna let that happen to you again. We're not gonna

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Speaker 9: ask you to do all that again, I promise you,

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Speaker 9: because if you once you lose your quarterback, I don't

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Speaker 9: care how great your defense is, your old line, your

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Speaker 9: wide receivers, it ain't gonna work.

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Speaker 7: And mean to NAT's point, you can hear it like

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Speaker 7: even Robert Solid this is This is the mental part

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Speaker 7: where coaches have to This is the mental gymnastics that

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Speaker 7: you have to play with your players. Immediately coach Sala

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Speaker 7: comes out, Oh this is acting. Yeah, yeah, this is acting,

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Speaker 7: and they have to find ways to build his confidence.

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Speaker 7: I even see fans now even saying like, hell, we

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Speaker 7: got to stick by this guy for the rest of

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Speaker 7: the year. Don't boo him when we have home games

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Speaker 7: because we got new Walk's turned to this it this

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Speaker 7: is it.

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Speaker 5: I didn't even know what their third string court, who

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Speaker 5: their third string quarterback was, Tyler something.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it doesn't matter, isn't It's not it doesn't matter,

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Speaker 7: doesn't it doesn't even matter. You get to them. It's

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Speaker 7: really over. But but but this is what coach Sala

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Speaker 7: is saying, and Cosala understands because when everything that you've

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Speaker 7: done from the spring with bringing Aaron Rodgers in, this

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Speaker 7: team had, I mean it was just filled with Super

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00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 7: Bowl aspirations. The hope was so high. When you bring

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Speaker 7: in Aaron Rodgers and then to lose him four snaps

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Speaker 7: into a game, that can deflate unit because now they

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Speaker 7: know what they have in Zach Wilson. A lot of

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Speaker 7: those guys have been in games with him, and they're.

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Speaker 12: Like, God, they they don't have enough. Like if the

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Speaker 12: Cowboys lost Dak With this team, there's enough talent on defense,

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Speaker 12: Jets have enough talents on defense. Is there enough talent

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Speaker 12: around your quarterback that you could keep it rolling? Is

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Speaker 12: that what they're thinking? Is that a possibility?

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Speaker 7: They're thinking at this point now the old mantra, do

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Speaker 7: your job. I thought you gonna say, who's in the draft? No,

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Speaker 7: do your job and once you do your job, do

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Speaker 7: a little bit more.

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Speaker 6: Once you do your job.

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Speaker 7: Do a little bit more. But they know they have

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Speaker 7: to rally around Zach Wilson because in his mind he's thinking,

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Speaker 7: I ain't Aaron Rodgers. But the coaches have to be

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Speaker 7: able to say, hey, son, it's okay to be a game.

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Speaker 7: They got a game. Manage this kid. This kid has

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Speaker 7: to be the ultimate bus driver.

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Speaker 6: He does.

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Speaker 7: Jack Wilson has to be like Zach Wilson. What I

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Speaker 7: just what I believe that they are looking at Zach

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Speaker 7: Wilson is saying, you don't have to win us the game.

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Speaker 6: You don't.

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Speaker 7: You can't be responsible for us losing it.

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Speaker 9: Though.

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Speaker 7: That's that's the attitude they have to take. You don't

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Speaker 7: have to win us the game, son, But you can't.

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Speaker 7: Your fingerprints can't be on this game while we lose it.

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Speaker 7: We have it good enough and they do. They have

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Speaker 7: a good enough defense that they they want to take

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Speaker 7: this game into the fourth quarter where there's a chance.

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Speaker 7: Because now I got fake I got fake plays, double passes,

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Speaker 7: I got all the tricks in the bag if I

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Speaker 7: need to get one playoff to score. But if Zach

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Speaker 7: Wilson goes out there and he thinks he's gonna be

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Speaker 7: one of the Marvel Avengers, a superhero, and he's two

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Speaker 7: picks in, he's a sack fumble, he's running the wrong way,

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Speaker 7: and Mike is on his third sack, and now they

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Speaker 7: they they doing this in the backfield and everybody come

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Speaker 7: to the party.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna tell you, it cannot be dropped passes.

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Speaker 9: This kid, y'all talking about this, Garrett Wilson, Alan Lazard there.

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Speaker 9: It cannot be dropped passes because you won't get them back.

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Speaker 9: It cannot because every time you drop a pass or missed,

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Speaker 9: our corners get a little more confident. Whether they was

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Speaker 9: beat or not, it don't matter. They get a little

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Speaker 9: more confident. And I'm not saying that they have to

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Speaker 9: play a perfect game. But I'm with Jesse, don't pop

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Speaker 9: that ball in there. He hits you right in the chest.

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Speaker 9: When it pops up in there, you know it ain't coming.

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Speaker 9: He ain't hit the ground because one of our guys

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Speaker 9: gonna get it. So but I still believe that Coach

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Speaker 9: Salad is telling his guy, especially defensive. I've heard I've

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Speaker 9: followed Coach Johnson into a defensive meeting room on the

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Speaker 9: night before a game, and I heard him.

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Speaker 6: It was so funny, you know, because it was true.

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Speaker 6: He said, if I was our offense, ain't gonna win this.

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Speaker 9: He said, I truly need for y'all to step up.

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Speaker 9: Y'all gotta know your assignments, know your alignments. Y'all have

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Speaker 9: to execute. And I was in the back, and uh,

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Speaker 9: because I told her how these restaurant. I was tired

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Speaker 9: of listening to Shooler talk David sho so I went

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Speaker 9: over you know, I ain't know the place nowhere, but anyway,

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Speaker 9: I went over there.

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Speaker 6: I lost my notes. Anyway, I went over there and

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Speaker 6: I listened to this.

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Speaker 9: I don't know if Coach Johnson saw me sneak out

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Speaker 9: or not, you know, because he kind of looked when

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Speaker 9: I kind of you.

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Speaker 4: Why he saw you.

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Speaker 9: We had we had four or five fat guys on

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Speaker 9: I know who you were, but he saw But anyway.

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Speaker 7: The fridge don't sneak in it out there anyway.

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Speaker 6: And so luckily I had Tony tob It as my roommate.

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Speaker 9: I said, told, I said, what y'all thinking about our offense?

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Speaker 9: It told me just straight up, y'all, ain't I said, y'all,

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Speaker 9: I heard what coch y'all believe that, Hey, what's what's

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Speaker 9: dan Quinn was.

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Speaker 7: Just getting ready to say that, getting ready to say

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Speaker 7: that in the same respects dan Quinn is telling that

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Speaker 7: guys eliminate him.

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Speaker 6: Yes, from the rip, dan Quinn him a.

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Speaker 7: Chance, don't give him, don't give him no life, because

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Speaker 7: that's what they want. They want an opportunity to say

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Speaker 7: if you give this kid courage and you give teams

635
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Speaker 7: this team is looking for a reason to quit. They

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Speaker 7: know what Zach Wilson is. They know he gonna give

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Speaker 7: up one or two. We used to play teams back

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Speaker 7: and then he's gonna give us one. He gonna give

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Speaker 7: us one, and when they quit, you go do we.

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Speaker 9: Got him quarterback in Minnesota, We got him quarterbacks.

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Speaker 12: Is there a risk though, do you have to kind

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Speaker 12: of say, okay, guys, no go after him. No, but

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Speaker 12: if everybody's joining the party and they start running the

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Speaker 12: ball up the middle.

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Speaker 7: No, that's that is That is the and every defensive

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Speaker 7: meeting room, there are the there's the board, and every

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Speaker 7: room there is. These things that you get, you get

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Speaker 7: applauded for. Let's just say goals. The goals keep a

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Speaker 7: team under one hundred yards, win, the turnover, battles, sacks,

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Speaker 7: all the way down. Line number one is for a defense,

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Speaker 7: I never want to give up one hundred yard Rushier

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Speaker 7: for defense, they never want to give up one hundred

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Speaker 7: yard Russia. They know, they know that the only way

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Speaker 7: the only way to get to the sack party is

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Speaker 7: if we dominate the run game. The only way we

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Speaker 7: get to go have real fun. We all get to

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Speaker 7: Osa get to have two, and and and and and

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Speaker 7: Doors get to have two, and Michael get to have one.

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Speaker 7: The only way we get there stop. We gotta stop

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Speaker 7: the run first. If and Dy're telling them, y'all want

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Speaker 7: to have fun, y'all want to go right earn the

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Speaker 7: right to rush the passer. If you don't stop the run.

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Speaker 7: And that's a Jersey dude. He keeps it real.

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Speaker 17: Dan's telling them, if y'all want to go have fun,

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Speaker 17: stop the run, because once we stop the run, it

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Speaker 17: is meet them in the backfield.

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Speaker 7: But if you do not stop the run, you will

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Speaker 7: have a long.

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Speaker 4: Day, just like real life. You stop the runs, you're

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Speaker 4: gonna have a long day.

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Speaker 7: And I think I think that is the first thing,

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Speaker 7: and I think that's the message across the board. Fellas.

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Speaker 7: We have to stop the run and if we do that,

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Speaker 7: have pop the bottoms. We're going to get it. You

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Speaker 7: know what I feel?

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Speaker 3: Really, I feel really bad for Jets fans. I don't

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Speaker 3: I do because I don't dislike their fan base. There's

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Speaker 7: Many struggles, I'm not years.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to give him a game, but I'm

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Speaker 3: just saying, the second game of the season, you have

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Speaker 6: And Zach Wist.

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Speaker 3: I just I feel bad, but hey, I didn't I

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Speaker 3: don't want to see I didn't want to see that

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Speaker 6: We neither, right.

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Speaker 9: I ain't got no problem when I be hearing folks

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Speaker 6: It ain't Rob. Don't do that. You ain't beat this man.

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Speaker 6: We want to get some revenge.

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Speaker 3: Shut up, just as a just as a like, that's

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Speaker 3: be the exact same conversation.

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Speaker 4: Run the ball, quick passes like there's no excitement in that.

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Speaker 7: Like even if you somehow make it to the.

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Speaker 9: Playoffs, like you playing better teams, we won't face this

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Speaker 9: when you have an opportunity like we have this week

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Speaker 9: and next week is the Cardinals. Yeah, and I know

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Speaker 9: they ain't looking at head, but we allowed to take advantage.

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Speaker 9: Get more discipline in your game, be a better player,

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Speaker 9: work on things, saying this is a practice.

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Speaker 7: No no, no, no no, no, next week's practice.

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Speaker 9: No no, for sure. If you got a games's the

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Speaker 9: game number three, now next one, I'll use Mazi. Okay,

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Speaker 9: we need for you to have better hand placement. We

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Speaker 7: Mazzi realized real quick that was that big ten, big ten.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, this is so you ain't strong and everybody else

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Speaker 5: The Dallas Cowboys. And we were talking Jets Cowboys. We

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Speaker 5: didn't talk a lot of Cowboys defense.

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Speaker 6: But let's talk about KURTI.

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Speaker 4: You had an interesting note on I want to know.

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Speaker 6: What's on night notes that he found notes and then got.

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Speaker 9: About last year Jets team defense and this year Jets

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Speaker 9: team defense.

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Speaker 6: And so we're good.

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Speaker 9: But and before you talk about Mazie, I talked to

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Speaker 9: coach Florida lived during training camp.

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Speaker 6: You know about this kid.

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Speaker 9: He say he's built a little different, he thinks a

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Speaker 9: little different, so they won't have to work with him.

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Speaker 9: And uh and uh, you didn't get him going what's

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Speaker 9: so funny? He was? He a little different, He takes

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Speaker 9: a little different. Yeah, so what's that co work? Yeah,

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Speaker 9: what's that co work for? No, you just gotta work, like,

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Speaker 9: come on and understand what he's doing.

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Speaker 8: Right?

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Speaker 12: Going on Pro Football Focus was a little more impressed

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Speaker 12: with them than I guess some other people were.

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Speaker 7: They built different and think different too.

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Speaker 6: We got to guess.

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Speaker 8: They had him ranked higher.

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Speaker 12: They graded him highering that game than Osa or Hankins.

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Speaker 12: They had him graded as the thirty second best defensive interior.

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Speaker 12: I mean, it's starting to me out of one hundred

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Speaker 12: and twenty seven. They had him ranked thirty second.

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Speaker 6: Of a not bad not bad, I mean not bad.

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Speaker 12: I mean he played for Yeah, yeah, I probably helped

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Speaker 12: the face to run.

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Speaker 6: Not bad.

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Speaker 9: My thing is this right here? This kid was you know,

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Speaker 9: I'm not making his shoes. He wasn't uh hop fifteen pick.

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Speaker 9: He had his attributes. They thought it was very strong,

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Speaker 9: they thought it was very explosive. They said that he

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Speaker 9: would be a great run run stop guy. But they

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Speaker 9: neglect to say that he was an awesome two gap guy.

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Speaker 9: But he really is a single gap guy. You give people,

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Speaker 9: you can give the two gap guy is if I

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Speaker 9: use the center since he's in the middlefield. If I'm

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Speaker 9: a two gap guy, I jam you, get my hands inside,

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Speaker 9: and I play a and a.

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Speaker 6: And a gap.

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Speaker 9: Okay, But what he does well is he jams guys

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Speaker 9: and pushes him back.

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Speaker 6: He cannot release.

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Speaker 9: He's so much into wanting to dominate you as a man,

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Speaker 9: and he made that statement on training camp. I just

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Speaker 9: want to dominate the guy in front of me. But

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Speaker 9: he literally does that. He takes the guy in front

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Speaker 9: of But in the NFL, that same guy take you in,

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Speaker 9: turn you.

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Speaker 6: Sideways, and make a hole. Your very strength you against you.

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Speaker 9: That's what they're trying to get him down to do

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Speaker 9: is to take a step one way or the other.

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Speaker 9: When he sees a head move, you go this way.

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Speaker 9: I'm stepping this way and blocking you that way. I

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Speaker 9: can eat up two holes with our linebacks can run.

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Speaker 9: Is that something because he's strong, Yeah, he's strong. Can

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Speaker 9: see he's strong. Is that that's something that you can learn.

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Speaker 9: Is that technique or is that instinct? Like what that's

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Speaker 9: that's that's that's technique and that's instinct. You gotta wanna

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Speaker 9: when you're strong like that, you have the ability to

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Speaker 9: be explosive. You can't use it all going forward because

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Speaker 9: once you lock anyone just grasp my and bend him over.

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Speaker 9: Do you have the athletic ability? Do you have the

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Speaker 9: athletic ability to release that.

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Speaker 6: Guy and make a tackle? That's how simple. It's simple

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Speaker 6: to say. But a lot of guys can't do that

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Speaker 6: in this league.

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Speaker 9: I mean, he's not the only one. He's got to

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Speaker 9: learn that. He's got to learn jam read, you know,

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Speaker 9: read on the move. That's what Olsa is learning to do.

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Speaker 9: Even though he's a guy that likes you get up feel,

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Speaker 9: he still has to read what that guard is trying

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Speaker 9: to do to him. If I'm stepping this way to

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Speaker 9: the right, I'm trying to get my running back going

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Speaker 9: that way. So you got if you step that way

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Speaker 9: and take away that gap. If we're trying to scoop

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Speaker 9: you me the center and guard. Now he's got to

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Speaker 9: make a decision as a as a as a guard, Well,

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Speaker 9: I can't get none of this guy right here, So

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Speaker 9: I'm gonna go up. But if that linebacker already gonna

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Speaker 9: shot the gap, yeah it's over, you know.

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Speaker 12: So I big is it gonna be this weekend? You

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Speaker 12: know they're gonna run for like Mazi and Hankins. I mean,

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Speaker 12: they gotta come play right.

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Speaker 6: You know what.

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Speaker 9: Thank God for the snap, the bad snap, because that's

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Speaker 9: what started.

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Speaker 6: Remember they walked down.

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Speaker 7: The field, the fall start in the basket.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and then the bad snap and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 9: the floodgates open. After the block field goes down, the

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Speaker 9: floodgates open up. Now, coach the day ball them. I

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Speaker 9: wouldn't have pan they panicked. I wanted to panic. I

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Speaker 9: tried to gather my guys and try to still have

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Speaker 9: some type of run game, not my quarterback running, because

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Speaker 9: they paid for that. I'm talking about Barkley. Bea you

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Speaker 9: extra meal on top of that ten you're gonna get

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Speaker 9: beat up. You're gonna get sacrificed.

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Speaker 7: One of my biggest gripes in college football. And you

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Speaker 7: have some programs that are really good. Some of these

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Speaker 7: college coaches don't teach the game at all. Some of

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Speaker 7: these college coaches. You look at guys, there were times

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Speaker 7: at Baylor where receivers would come from Baylor come to

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Speaker 7: the league and couldn't do nothing else but run go

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Speaker 7: routes they had they struggled with.

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Speaker 4: And you have said that about offensive lineman in college too.

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Speaker 6: Right, Oh, that's the majority of go ahead on jail,

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Speaker 6: that's the majority of And.

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Speaker 7: Then you have players like a Mazie where because my

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Speaker 7: strength level is advanced to the kids my peer level,

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Speaker 7: it's more advanced, I can just dominate you with pure strength.

885
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 7: And so a coach doesn't take the time to teach

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Speaker 7: the things that Nate.

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Speaker 4: Stalk as you dominating off a puer abillity.

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Speaker 7: Because now they're just saying, hey, just go be you

889
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 7: just go do exactly what you do well, right, because

890
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 7: that's working for us. And you know these college teams,

891
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 7: if you pack enough Mazzie Smith type players onto a

892
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 7: team and everybody do a singular thing really well, you

893
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 7: end up winning the football games. You end up winning

894
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 7: multiple games, you end up going to bulls, you end

895
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 7: up being ranks. And a lot of times those college

896
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 7: coaches at that point time, they did say, listen, my

897
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 7: bonus is and my pay comfort. What's going to bowl games?

898
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 7: Then you take this kid and you insert them into

899
00:45:53,160 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 7: the National Football League where you're no longer the dominant player.

900
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 7: What now can you? What now can you do to

901
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 7: improve your game instantly? Especially when you're a first round

902
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 7: pick because the days of letting this thing kind of

903
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 7: heat up in the oven and develop are done. You

904
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 7: have to come in right now and make an impact.

905
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 7: And so I look at a kid like Mazzie Smith,

906
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 7: where we talked about it all season long, and people

907
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 7: gonna ask the question, like, you know, well, how do

908
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 7: you improve this? Is it technique? Is it want to?

909
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 7: Is it will? For the last three or four years

910
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 7: in this kid's life, he's just been told, hey, I'm

911
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 7: just strong. To everybody else, I'm just gonna use that. Now.

912
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 7: You try to put them in here o the grown

913
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 7: men NFL guys, and I spoke about this during the summertime,

914
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 7: was these guys now are so technically sound and in

915
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 7: the trenches, it's not a lot of movement in the

916
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 7: sense of if I get you six inches, if I

917
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,760
Speaker 7: get a half a step on your upfield shoulder, if

918
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 7: I can hook you just by a little bit, I win.

919
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 7: And I know how to use positioning, movement, speed, strength,

920
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 7: all that now is combined. And you sometimes lose these

921
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 7: kids because they're trying to catch up to the speed

922
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 7: of the game and the office line that they're playing

923
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 7: now who have been in the league for a couple

924
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 7: of years, it becomes frustrating and now you can't play

925
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 7: them in certain games because they're like, they're on to us.

926
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 7: They know that this kid can't do. They know that

927
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 7: if we just line them up, let them bull rush,

928
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 7: that center goes, he's a one trick pony. Cool, I'm

929
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 7: gonna stop the ball. I'm gonna let him think it.

930
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 7: I'm going one way and sometimes you know what, just

931
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 7: let him go waa wam. Block comes, that pull of

932
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,280
Speaker 7: guard come, that tight end comes down, and now you're stuck.

933
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 7: So that's one of my pet peeves with certain college programs,

934
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 7: and I'm not saying nothing about Michigan, but you have

935
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 7: some like Alabama where those guys come into the league,

936
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Speaker 7: they're ready to play. Georgia, those guys are ready to

937
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 7: play because the coaching is at a different level. Some

938
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 7: of these coaches in college will allow you to be

939
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 7: a one trick pony. And that's that it hurst these

940
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 7: kids when they come to the National Football League because

941
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Speaker 7: it's much more than just pure strength and athleticism. At

942
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,760
Speaker 7: this level. There has to be a level of technique.

943
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 7: You gotta have tools in your toolbox.

944
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Speaker 9: Because Boys playmaker says it ain't from the nick down.

945
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Speaker 6: It's the neck up.

946
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Speaker 9: And you gotta be able to think like a little

947
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,240
Speaker 9: to think like a little neck tomorrow.

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Speaker 13: Phone calls eight five, five to two nine seven.

949
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Speaker 6: We text the phone number.

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Speaker 13: Jesse good stuff, They good stuff. Kurt, good seeing you man.

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Speaker 13: We will be back tomorrow, Chris. They forgiving us on

952
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Speaker 13: the air, same time, same place. Yeah, I get something

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Speaker 13: to read when you go back to We'll be back tomorrow.

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