Speaker 1: How many dogs have you found homes for in your life?
Speaker 2: Not one hundred?
Speaker 1: Okay, cash show, cash show to show. Hey everybody, it's
Speaker 1: Tosh Show Tuesday. Who Eddie? How are you good?
Speaker 2: How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm great? How long did it take you to get
Speaker 1: here today?
Speaker 2: Hour and a half hour?
Speaker 1: For this is the first day that you came here
Speaker 1: to Malibu via the Pacific Coast Highway the PCH after
Speaker 1: the fires closed. How traumatic was it? It's different.
Speaker 2: It's sad.
Speaker 1: You don't want to go though, don't you know? You
Speaker 1: said you haven't done it yet, right I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't drive through the burn areas right now, but
Speaker 1: I will. I would like to point out I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that that that I put a mouth on it
Speaker 1: and caused all of this. But remember when I said
Speaker 1: the fix to making PCH safer was to slow the
Speaker 1: speed limit down considerably, right and not allow people to
Speaker 1: park on the side of the highway. Well, currently the PCH,
Speaker 1: the speed of them has been dropped to twenty five
Speaker 1: miles an hour. You were not allowed to park anywhere
Speaker 1: on the side. And guess what zero deaths? Yep, so
Speaker 1: I guess. I mean it seems odd that I would
Speaker 1: want this in this current moment. But you're welcome. By
Speaker 1: the way, the wildfires and rightfully so, have have gotten
Speaker 1: tons of global coverage. You know, they always talk about, well,
Speaker 1: what's important is life, and you don't want people to
Speaker 1: die so that all the other stuff can be replaced.
Speaker 1: And then we had another tragedy in DC with that
Speaker 1: flight that collided with the helicopter and sixty seven people
Speaker 1: were killed. I mean, I'm just pointing out that in
Speaker 1: the fires, twenty nine people were killed global coverage twice
Speaker 1: as many people killed on American Eagle flight. It's less,
Speaker 1: And I'm just saying one of those was life and
Speaker 1: the other is about a lot of stuff. The point
Speaker 1: that I'm making here is that we do care about stuff.
Speaker 1: We don't care about people as much as we should.
Speaker 1: WHOA wasn't ready for that heavy take on Toss show.
Speaker 2: I mean, you gave up on stuff a long time ago.
Speaker 1: Oh man, you've been out. I got a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1: I gotta get rid of it. And even bigger news.
Speaker 1: Luca to the Lakers. Well, As a life long Laker hater,
Speaker 1: this couldn't be more perfect for me. Oh is he
Speaker 1: easy to hate? Are you telling me. For the next decade,
Speaker 1: I get to watch him go like this after every
Speaker 1: non call, Oh who fouled? Look at my fat, pasty body.
Speaker 1: You can see the marks. And as a twofer, you
Speaker 1: know it also knocks down a few more people in
Speaker 1: the pecking order of Laker Great, you have Lebron and
Speaker 1: you're gonna have Luca. He had Shack, Kareem Magic, James Worthy,
Speaker 1: and then Kobe Wow. He pushes him out, Kobe getting
Speaker 1: knocked all the way down. I'll take your comments off air.
Speaker 1: I don't know he Luca. They say he just couldn't
Speaker 1: stay in shape, and now he's going to the Lakers
Speaker 1: where a forty year old Lebron James spends one million dollars.
Speaker 1: Who's this a physical therapist, doctor evil one million dollars
Speaker 1: a year to keep Lebron at forty in top physical condition.
Speaker 1: Luca famously, during the off season, I'm told has two
Speaker 1: dozen Slovenian sausages a day. That's his regiment. You don't
Speaker 1: want to guard a man that's had a couple dozen
Speaker 1: Slovenian sausages sweating out the pores. That's not good out there.
Speaker 1: Oh you don't, you don't want to press up against him.
Speaker 1: It's slippery, and you need to be slippery when you
Speaker 1: got a six inch vertical. Oh and guess what, you
Speaker 1: won't believe this. I have another poop story we gotta start.
Speaker 1: It has a sting for these Now, all right, let's
Speaker 1: create a sting for the poop stories. Poop story number
Speaker 1: three hundred and forty one. I feel like, because I
Speaker 1: talk about it, that more and more poop related things
Speaker 1: are entering my life. Now, I've told you in the
Speaker 1: past that my beloved Carl has occasionally in the poop cuisine.
Speaker 1: He's he's had one of my daughter's turds a time
Speaker 1: or two. Well, as you know, I bought a pig.
Speaker 1: I didn't, but the wife and her cousin but did.
Speaker 1: And this pig, when he was brought into our lives
Speaker 1: at a I think at eight weeks old, was seven pounds. Okay,
Speaker 1: now we're at four months in he's currently twenty five pounds,
Speaker 1: and oh my goodness, we'll eat any dog poop that's
Speaker 1: in the yard. So I'm like, now, whenever my dogs go,
Speaker 1: everyone has the strict instructions to quickly bag it before
Speaker 1: potato gets it. Okay, Well, the other day, I have
Speaker 1: a pile of these bagged dog droppings that I save
Speaker 1: for the gardener to get rid of. Well, potato found
Speaker 1: that that area ripped into the bags. There's probably ten
Speaker 1: fifteen bags. Each bag probably two to five poops. That's
Speaker 1: how I do it. You know, you pick one or
Speaker 1: two or three up, depends how small they are when
Speaker 1: you're cleaning up the yard. My educated guess is he
Speaker 1: probably ate, you know, his body weighting poop. So now
Speaker 1: I have to like bag it and get rid of
Speaker 1: it and put it into the trash can. It's all.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of work. By the way, this pig
Speaker 1: still sleeps in my bedroom. Cutest thing in the world.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure this is how Ava, my old dog,
Speaker 1: is going to die because she her weight is less
Speaker 1: and less. She's probably eight or nine pounds now. She
Speaker 1: sleeps into her dog bed and then the twenty five
Speaker 1: pound pig crawls on top of her and basically suffocates
Speaker 1: her all night long, and she tends to love it.
Speaker 1: They constantly are spooning. I got a photo of her
Speaker 1: putting her little paw over the top the pig. They
Speaker 1: just they sleep together constantly. By the way, he doesn't.
Speaker 1: Sometimes he didn't even wait for the dogs to go poop.
Speaker 1: I've caught him going up to Ava while she was
Speaker 1: napping and just eating from the tap just to come on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. But Data's eating ass like he's
Speaker 1: like he's some kind of Mormon with the poop hole loophole.
Speaker 1: It's unacceptable. I don't I should ask today's guest how
Speaker 1: to fix uh the pig pooping problem, but they're gonna
Speaker 1: say the same thing. Would just make sure you pick
Speaker 1: it all up. Well, okay, but now I have to
Speaker 1: like follow multiple pets around and oh no, they went
Speaker 1: to the bathroom quick before hungry hungry Potato gets over here.
Speaker 1: Enjoy Casha. If there is a heaven, my guest today
Speaker 1: would get in without a problem. She's read over one
Speaker 1: hundred dogs from being euthanized and now Train's pooch is
Speaker 1: full time right here in Los Angeles. She's a real
Speaker 1: treat to have on today's show. Please welcome Cassidy.
Speaker 2: That was great, Thank you.
Speaker 1: Thank you for being here, Thanks for having me. Do
Speaker 1: you believe in ghost.
Speaker 2: I believe in spirit guide? So is that the same thing?
Speaker 1: Yes? Okay, and yes, do you believe in dog ghosts. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so like every species on the planet has their own
Speaker 1: ghost after death.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I go back and forth. Sometimes I
Speaker 2: think some things reincarnate into something else and other things
Speaker 2: stay as ghosts.
Speaker 1: Good to know.
Speaker 2: I feel like that we'll figuring it out.
Speaker 1: Well, you let me know when you get there. Well
Speaker 1: where are you originally from?
Speaker 2: I am from Tulsa, Oklahoma.
Speaker 1: How long did you live there?
Speaker 2: I lived there until I was eighteen, and then I
Speaker 2: moved to Duluth, Minnesota, where I went to college and
Speaker 2: stayed a few years after very cold.
Speaker 1: One of my screen savers on an old computer or
Speaker 1: was my dog? I was walking on a pier with
Speaker 1: a little tiny lighthouse at the end of it, and
Speaker 1: that was in Duluth.
Speaker 2: You've been to Duluth.
Speaker 1: Sure, how else would that story be relevant? I don't
Speaker 1: know if you photoshopped your dogs into no one's photoshopping Duluth.
Speaker 2: That's very true. Duluth is so beautiful. I always say
Speaker 2: it's a hidden gem of the Midwest.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 2: The little lighthouse of course in Canal Yeah.
Speaker 1: A little lighthouse, ah man, I remember that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's beautiful.
Speaker 1: Do you go, But do you still have family in Tulsa.
Speaker 2: I do, all my whole families in Tulsa.
Speaker 1: Tulsa, I mean just a real awful town. True or false.
Speaker 2: True, I don't love it. I think everyone said it's
Speaker 2: up and coming. It feel like it's behind. Tulsa is up,
Speaker 2: and everyone there said it's up and coming. I still
Speaker 2: think it's ten fifteen years behind.
Speaker 1: There used to be a crappy comedy club that I
Speaker 1: worked as a young comedian Tulsa, and it was a
Speaker 1: jay it was. It shared a building with a nightclub.
Speaker 2: It's probably still there well.
Speaker 1: And the nightclub, who at the time was played a
Speaker 1: lot of heavy bass hip hop music and and it
Speaker 1: was just funny because I'd be performing and you just
Speaker 1: hear bass coming through the walls and I was like,
Speaker 1: this is not good.
Speaker 2: I haven't been because I was eighteen when I left,
Speaker 2: so I've never really gone out in Tulsa.
Speaker 1: Well, sure, this this is way before your time.
Speaker 2: It might still be there, though.
Speaker 1: Favorite college football team, Sooners. I didn't know if you
Speaker 1: were like, you don't care at all, but you.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't watch it, but sure, I feel like.
Speaker 1: My favorite Sooners game was what that game. It was
Speaker 1: like a couple of years ago, maybe it was longer.
Speaker 1: Where the after they scored that the trailer flipped over
Speaker 1: and the girl flew out. The horses were just dragging
Speaker 1: her around.
Speaker 2: Yep, I remember that.
Speaker 1: That was the delightful. That was delightful. So you finished
Speaker 1: in Duluth?
Speaker 2: What did you study communications?
Speaker 1: With dogs?
Speaker 2: No? No, no, they do have degrees for that kind
Speaker 2: of stuff. Now, I don't know. I've heard of it.
Speaker 2: I haven't endeavored.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you had a degree in communications. I used
Speaker 1: to tell people I had a minor in communications, but
Speaker 1: I don't think I did.
Speaker 2: Probably not.
Speaker 1: I think it just lied about it.
Speaker 2: Why did I did you have a major?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I had a degree in marketing.
Speaker 2: I think they're very similar. There's a lot of overlap.
Speaker 1: I'm sure I had classes in communications, but didn't. All right,
Speaker 1: So what was your big plan when you were in college.
Speaker 2: I did not have one. My plan was to get
Speaker 2: out of college as soon as possible.
Speaker 1: That was my plan. Yeah, So did you finish early?
Speaker 2: Yes? I graduated at twenty and a full year early.
Speaker 2: It was a full year early, and I didn't really
Speaker 2: know what I wanted to do. I was waiting tables
Speaker 2: at the time, and I just kind of stayed in
Speaker 2: Duluth waiting tables, and and I guess the way I
Speaker 2: got into dogs, I kind of went I call it
Speaker 2: the rescue rabbit hole. You kind of spiral when you
Speaker 2: get into the rescue world I found for me at least,
Speaker 2: and I basically saw a disconnect where I'm from. In Tulsa,
Speaker 2: dogs are buy one, get one from the shelter, and
Speaker 2: they're like ten dollars, and there's just a ton of straits,
Speaker 2: kind of like southern California, so they're being euthanized a lot.
Speaker 2: And then I would take them to Minnesota to be adopted,
Speaker 2: where dogs cost way more to adopt.
Speaker 1: So real quick, dogs aren't euthanized in southern California.
Speaker 2: Yeah they are. Yeah, there's a lot of overcrowding in
Speaker 2: the shelters, especially in like Bakersfield.
Speaker 1: And Okay, I don't know, we'll get into it whether
Speaker 1: I consider bakers Field Southern California, but share enough. So
Speaker 1: you started illegally, yes, adopting dogs in Tulsa, bringing them
Speaker 1: up to Minnesota, the great folks of Minnesota, Yes, and
Speaker 1: charging them seven hundred bucks per week.
Speaker 2: So I did not charge. I only charged what I
Speaker 2: to cover the expenses, and to be honest, most time
Speaker 2: I never collected.
Speaker 1: So you were just rescuing dogs?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Did you ever see that real depressing movie with what's
Speaker 1: her name? Who? That's how I talk about people because
Speaker 1: I never know actors' names from SNL and she what
Speaker 1: was her name? She's one of that smelled her armpits
Speaker 1: Molly Shannon and then she just went on this. God
Speaker 1: just her life just became about helping rescue dogs. And
Speaker 1: then the end of it, it's just like her happy
Speaker 1: kind of It's just depressing the whole movie. And she
Speaker 1: has thousands of dogs with her.
Speaker 2: Was she happy with the thousands of dogs?
Speaker 1: What's the name of this movie? Year of the Dog?
Speaker 2: No, I haven't seen it. One thing about me is
Speaker 2: I haven't seen a lot of movies.
Speaker 1: There's no nobody has seen this movie. Yeah, they're all
Speaker 1: freaking out right back there that I pulled this movie
Speaker 1: from a rolodex of randomness that I've seen out. It
Speaker 1: might be your life story.
Speaker 2: I hope it's not.
Speaker 1: To be honest, it was depressing.
Speaker 2: I hope it's not my life story.
Speaker 1: Have you ever smelled jarm pits.
Speaker 2: Don't we all doing yoga? I don't know laying there?
Speaker 1: No, I don't do yoga.
Speaker 2: Do you ever lay like this? Oh?
Speaker 1: Yes, if it's ripe, I call in. I call in
Speaker 1: the wife immediately. What is she doing? I got a
Speaker 1: good one. She's like, what, I might smell this, and
Speaker 1: she's like, ah, you know that's what. It's what we do.
Speaker 1: Smells are my thing. I like smells foul and otherwise
Speaker 1: say what you will. I don't care. Judge me. How
Speaker 1: many back and forth did you do from Tulsa to Duluth.
Speaker 2: I'd have to I have not counted. I'd have to
Speaker 2: look at my archives a dozen. Probably. It got to
Speaker 2: a point where I would just do it, like I
Speaker 2: would come home for Thanksgiving. Because I didn't tell my
Speaker 2: parents I was doing this. They don't want them to worry.
Speaker 1: It was at first it was like, you know, like
Speaker 1: a drug mule, but with pooches.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I would I've break it up in the days.
Speaker 2: Sometimes we'd sneak into a motel in Iowa. Who's we
Speaker 2: me and the docks, Okay, me and myself and the dog, and.
Speaker 1: Then we can bring this stuff up on a chance.
Speaker 2: No, I actually don't talk about it. To be honest,
Speaker 2: I just started talking about it again. I got to
Speaker 2: a point where they started driving the dogs. They would
Speaker 2: drive them to Iowa, or they would drive them to Wisconsin. Folks,
Speaker 2: no the rescue, sorry, like people from the shelter. So
Speaker 2: there's people who commit their whole lives to transporting these
Speaker 2: dogs across the country. It's insane, but they'll basically load
Speaker 2: up a huge sprinter van of like fifty dogs creates
Speaker 2: stacked on top of each other, and they drive them
Speaker 2: across the country to go to northern shelters where there's
Speaker 2: not there's more demand.
Speaker 1: Is Tulsa so littered with stray dogs?
Speaker 2: I have theories it's I think it's just the South, because.
Speaker 1: You consider Tulsa the South.
Speaker 2: No, but it's warmer climates, so it's warm enough for
Speaker 2: animals to survive in so a lot of people if
Speaker 2: they are in between getting rid of their dog, there's
Speaker 2: no one to take the dog. They can either dump
Speaker 2: the dog or take them to a shelter, and they're
Speaker 2: probably gonna be uthanized at the shelter. Then they're just
Speaker 2: gonna dump the dog because then that dog can at
Speaker 2: least go and live their life in nature, and then
Speaker 2: if they're not, say and neuter, then they pro create,
Speaker 2: and then we have a plethora of dogs. Whereas in
Speaker 2: the North, if you were faced with the same concept
Speaker 2: or the same problem dilemma, you wouldn't dump your dog
Speaker 2: because you know that dog would just freeze to death
Speaker 2: and that would just be wrong.
Speaker 1: I grew up always having dogs. Okay, but you're not
Speaker 1: gonna like the story. That's okay, okay, but I'm a
Speaker 1: huge dog advocate now. But when my parents moved constantly,
Speaker 1: and whenever we moved, my dad just got rid of
Speaker 1: our dog, like the dog didn't come with us.
Speaker 2: It's very common.
Speaker 1: And I was always like, I never even thought to
Speaker 1: be well, why wouldn't we just bring our dog. He's like,
Speaker 1: you don't. You're not going to bring a Saint Bernard
Speaker 1: to Florida. And I'm like, well, fair enough.
Speaker 2: That's not terrible though, I.
Speaker 1: Know, but like, let me tell you, it wasn't like
Speaker 1: he went and sought out a good family. It was
Speaker 1: just the dog just is gone. Yeah, well that was
Speaker 1: that's one scenario. One time, my rabbit, my mom's like, well,
Speaker 1: we're moving, you can't bring your rabbit. I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: why can't I There wasn't even a conversation.
Speaker 2: That's so sad. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: Well, listen, a lot of this stuff is the issues
Speaker 1: that you see before you but now, I mean, good grief.
Speaker 1: I get so attached to it. Never and I don't
Speaker 1: even care about the pain that I go through when
Speaker 1: one of them dies, I just keep doing it. I'm like, whatever, Yeah,
Speaker 1: here we go again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty excruciating.
Speaker 1: Oh it's rough.
Speaker 2: So, for example, when COVID hit, it was all the
Speaker 2: shelters in Minnesota were emptied because people were staying at
Speaker 2: home and they had time to go faster at all.
Speaker 1: Their whole country almost got rid of all of our
Speaker 1: sheltered dogs.
Speaker 2: During the Closa, the problem doubled because people were thinking
Speaker 2: that their dogs were going to give them COVID.
Speaker 1: Oh see, okay, so there's just I don't even know
Speaker 1: about those people.
Speaker 2: It got really bad in Tulsa around that time. And
Speaker 2: also not even just that, but then people couldn't they
Speaker 2: got laid off, they couldn't afford their dog, they couldn't
Speaker 2: afford another mouth to feed, so then they would dump
Speaker 2: their dog because they didn't have a job. So I
Speaker 2: think it's a I do think that if people's needs
Speaker 2: were met, then they wouldn't need to get rid of
Speaker 2: their dogs when times got.
Speaker 1: Hard, you know, a rabbit hole. I used to go down,
Speaker 1: what I don't do it anymore, but I used to
Speaker 1: go down adopting children. You'd like, look into foster kids
Speaker 1: and you'd see these videos that they make of themselves,
Speaker 1: and they're cute and they're doing the big song and
Speaker 1: dance like I'm great, come on, give me a home.
Speaker 1: And I would just tear me apart. But I'd watch
Speaker 1: these videos. But then what happened was years would go
Speaker 1: by and I'd see the same kids four years later,
Speaker 1: like me and my sister, still looking for a family,
Speaker 1: and it was just it's just heartbreak.
Speaker 2: That would be horrible.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's horrible. So to see them age.
Speaker 2: That's at twenty. I wasn't ready for that. So I
Speaker 2: went to the dog route.
Speaker 1: You went to the dog route? Yeah, what does redlisted
Speaker 1: mean for a shelter dog?
Speaker 2: Euthanasia listed? So that means that they'll say this dog
Speaker 2: is redlisted for two pm, and that means that they
Speaker 2: will be euthanizes at two pm. Yeah. I don't follow
Speaker 2: those pages. Anymore.
Speaker 1: No, Oh, I try not to, and like, what do
Speaker 1: you do hustle down there?
Speaker 2: Yes? Or people are posting they're pledging money, money that's
Speaker 2: never collected because you can just comment on Instagram and
Speaker 2: say I pledged fifty dollars and then someone's like, great,
Speaker 2: I grabbed the dog. Where's that fifty dollars to help
Speaker 2: with the dog? Got it for medical bills? And then
Speaker 2: you don't hear from them.
Speaker 1: How many dogs have you found homes for in your life?
Speaker 2: About one hundred?
Speaker 1: And how many dogs have you fostered?
Speaker 2: Probably over one hundred. I think I stopped counting at
Speaker 2: like forty because I was just like, you.
Speaker 1: Rename those foster dogs or no, I'll name them.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I'll keep their shelter names. Sometimes they just have
Speaker 2: a kennel code name, like a number. It'll be like
Speaker 2: a one zero, three, seven, two nine.
Speaker 1: And when did you make the voyage out west?
Speaker 2: I came out West three years ago.
Speaker 1: What do your parents say when someone in Oklahoma ask
Speaker 1: what you're up to these days?
Speaker 2: That's a good one, my dad goes. My dad says, well,
Speaker 2: Cassidy's our free spirit child. She's out in California living
Speaker 2: with the Manson Crew.
Speaker 1: The shoe fits yep.
Speaker 2: And people don't train dogs in Oklahoma especially, so this
Speaker 2: career doesn't really exist there as much, so they don't
Speaker 2: really understand it or see it as a career.
Speaker 1: When did you start going to prisons?
Speaker 2: I started going two years.
Speaker 1: Ago, and explain to me what you do there.
Speaker 2: So the Positive Change Program is a programmer in by
Speaker 2: Marley's Mutts Rescue in Ta Hatchipee, and they pair dogs
Speaker 2: who would otherwise be euthanized with people living in prison,
Speaker 2: and then the people the inmates, train the dogs, and
Speaker 2: then the dog become adopted.
Speaker 1: It sounds great. Now. If you were to give me
Speaker 1: the choice death or prison, I'm not sure which one
Speaker 1: I would take.
Speaker 2: I don't know either.
Speaker 1: Is it only male prisons?
Speaker 2: I've done a women's prison and right now I'm a
Speaker 2: part of two male prisons.
Speaker 1: You have to bring cats to the women's prisons? Yeah,
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like that would be the right scenario. Would
Speaker 1: do you fuck with cats?
Speaker 2: I like cats. I don't know anything about training cats.
Speaker 2: People ask me that a lot, no idea. I like cats, though.
Speaker 2: I think more people should get cats, because I think
Speaker 2: more people want something that can just cuddle them on
Speaker 2: their couch and then stay home all day while they leave.
Speaker 2: You get You have so much more freedom when you
Speaker 2: have a cat versus when you have a dog. Dog
Speaker 2: is a lot of responsibility, and I just don't think
Speaker 2: a lot of people realize that it's true. My parents
Speaker 2: tried to lecture me on that, and I was like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I know we had dogs growing up, but I didn't
Speaker 2: realize how much my mom did for our dogs.
Speaker 1: Was your first experience with professional dog training in a prison?
Speaker 2: No, Okay, nope. I had a couple of mentors that
Speaker 2: I worked under for a little bit. To be honest,
Speaker 2: I kind of started doing it. So had I not
Speaker 2: left Minnesota, I arguably created the perfect business plan for
Speaker 2: myself because I brought all of these rescue dogs to
Speaker 2: Minnesota and now all those dogs need training. So I
Speaker 2: kind of created a problem that I then became a
Speaker 2: trainer and could have had the solution for. But I
Speaker 2: left to come to California to learn more from other trainers.
Speaker 2: But I do still keep in touch with a lot
Speaker 2: of them and they'll call me with training questions. So
Speaker 2: I kind of started doing it really just to keep
Speaker 2: these dogs out of my house. And get them adopted
Speaker 2: and successfully. I was like, if you want to adopt
Speaker 2: this dog, this is the best way to transition them
Speaker 2: into your house. So I would help them with that,
Speaker 2: and then a lot of people told me like kind
Speaker 2: of pushed me and encouraged me to start trying to
Speaker 2: do this professionally, and ultimately I wanted to do the
Speaker 2: Positive Change program. That was a huge very early in
Speaker 2: my rescuing days, when I was struggling with law biting
Speaker 2: other dogs, I found the Positive Change Program on social
Speaker 2: media and then I found trainers through there and clicked
Speaker 2: on trainers they would share, and I just kind of
Speaker 2: went down this journey of trying these different methods and
Speaker 2: applying what worked and teaching it to other people.
Speaker 1: Your services cost us and you better. You should probably
Speaker 1: say a higher number than normal.
Speaker 2: Just so I'm building. I'm getting my website launched right now,
Speaker 2: so I've just changed kind of what I'm offering my services.
Speaker 2: My private lessons are two fifty an hour for a
Speaker 2: private lesson. I offer daily training, which is four days
Speaker 2: a week, so I'll come to your house for an
Speaker 2: hour a day, four days a week, and that is
Speaker 2: six hundred a week.
Speaker 1: For now, do I have to be present for that.
Speaker 2: No, you do have to be present for one. So
Speaker 2: every Friday you have to be there.
Speaker 1: We're going to hang out with you for an hour.
Speaker 2: Yeah, every we can practice over the weekend. Because this
Speaker 2: is what's so hard, is that I'm not like selling
Speaker 2: you this mug and charging you and then you're like, great,
Speaker 2: I love the mug. It really it's kind of like
Speaker 2: if you hired a personal trainer because you wanted to
Speaker 2: get fit, but then you didn't do any of the work,
Speaker 2: then you're not going to see the results you want.
Speaker 2: But then that reflects for some reason, when it comes
Speaker 2: to dog training, people don't put that together necessarily, and
Speaker 2: then that reflects on me being a shitty dog trainer
Speaker 2: because you didn't practice anything I taught you.
Speaker 1: I agree. I agree with what you're saying. Like I
Speaker 1: look at all the things that I refuse to do.
Speaker 1: It's always like, you know, mental health, I won't see anybody,
Speaker 1: won't talk to anybody, trainer, won't do it. It's just
Speaker 1: I just want to avoid those interactions. Yet anything else where,
Speaker 1: it's something like I could I could clean my deck.
Speaker 1: I refuse to that. I would hire somebody for but
Speaker 1: I would never all the things that are important to
Speaker 1: make you a better person, to make people around you happier.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, nope, my couples, there up no.
Speaker 2: A lot of people don't hire a dog trainer until
Speaker 2: their dog. I didn't do you do anything training wise until
Speaker 2: Lonna was attacking other dogs, And then I was.
Speaker 1: Like, ooh, if someone couldn't afford your services, what advice
Speaker 1: would you give them for trying to train their own dog.
Speaker 2: There is so much free content out there, and it
Speaker 2: can be really confusing and overwhelming to people because there's
Speaker 2: such differing philosophies when it comes to training. I would say,
Speaker 2: just try it, try something, stick with it for a
Speaker 2: little bit. If it doesn't work, try something else.
Speaker 1: Do reward based systems work long term?
Speaker 2: They can kind of, but then at some point, like
Speaker 2: you're not going to have a treat on you, so
Speaker 2: you have to figure something else out.
Speaker 1: Well, right, But rewards don't have to be a treat.
Speaker 1: Rewards can be affection.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's all I do. I always I just reach in
Speaker 1: my pocket, like I have a treat.
Speaker 2: Do you trick your dog constantly? God?
Speaker 1: Ah, you thought I had something? I don't do it?
Speaker 1: I don't like. I don't like the way treats feel
Speaker 1: in my pocket.
Speaker 2: What about a fanny pack.
Speaker 1: I wear a fanny pack more for fashion, not for great,
Speaker 1: not for function. There I'm not putting the treats smell.
Speaker 2: They do smell. They smell, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm told you I'm in smells. I don't
Speaker 1: like it. Yeah, not doing.
Speaker 2: I've always smelled like dog and dog treats.
Speaker 1: My dad used to not let us have doritos as
Speaker 1: a child because they stunned. He said they He always
Speaker 1: would say they smell like a sweaty dog. Really, he
Speaker 1: would scream at us, get those out of the house.
Speaker 1: But I have weird all the flavors. No, just not
Speaker 1: just not Choe. I don't think cool Ranch smelled like
Speaker 1: a dog to him.
Speaker 2: I think that one has a stronger son.
Speaker 1: It probably does. Maybe it was cool Ranch too. I
Speaker 1: have no idea. This is that's so silly. Yeah, what
Speaker 1: about those bark collars? Do you like bark collars?
Speaker 2: I haven't used a bark collar personally, I'm not against them.
Speaker 2: I do use electric collars, electronic collars. I'll use very
Speaker 2: low levels.
Speaker 1: We cranked ours up to max with he didn't care
Speaker 1: at all, bark right through it because what it means
Speaker 1: it's just And then then he just like I think
Speaker 1: he was getting stronger. I don't know what was happening.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, he started like.
Speaker 2: Did you just buy when and put it on your
Speaker 2: dog and just see how it happened.
Speaker 1: I don't know how I I uh introduced it to him,
Speaker 1: but I just know that it was on like a
Speaker 1: nothing setting and we got no reaction. So then you
Speaker 1: just we just kept cranking it up, and that's one.
Speaker 2: Way to do it.
Speaker 1: It didn't work.
Speaker 2: That's not the way he doesn't should do it.
Speaker 1: Then I bought this little frequency noise thing that when
Speaker 1: he barks, you're supposed to press it and it does
Speaker 1: a noise that they don't like.
Speaker 2: And then does it did he stop?
Speaker 1: Well here's my thing. Right around the time my other
Speaker 1: dog who has dementia. I was like, well, now she's
Speaker 1: getting getting a side effect of your bad behavior. I
Speaker 1: can't do I couldn't in good faith do it went
Speaker 1: all crazy over here, is like, what the fuck was that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a little unfair, it's.
Speaker 1: Not fair, right, Yeah. I didn't have a solution to
Speaker 1: that problem.
Speaker 2: Is your other dogs still barking?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, constant again. I don't care. I was trying
Speaker 1: to make my partner, you know, less agitated. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: ship sailed. Did you ever do the watch? McCall leashes
Speaker 1: with it with the prongs the prong.
Speaker 2: I don't use them.
Speaker 1: I don't use it.
Speaker 2: I like caller over prong personally.
Speaker 1: I have a wide band choke collar. Is that acceptable?
Speaker 2: I mean, anything's acceptable. You just have to teach the
Speaker 2: dog what it means. My dog walks fine, then great,
Speaker 2: then that's not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he likes to lead and I kind of always
Speaker 1: pull him back. Should I do that or should I
Speaker 1: let him?
Speaker 2: Is it okay to let him lead if you're not
Speaker 2: working through any behavior issues? It just depends on what
Speaker 2: you want. Duckster typically walks in front of me, but
Speaker 2: Lana stays by my side.
Speaker 1: I always like those cool dog owners that go leashless
Speaker 1: and the dog just stays right next to him and
Speaker 1: they're not affected by anything, you know.
Speaker 2: I saw one down there.
Speaker 1: As soon as I see it, though, I'm just like, whatever,
Speaker 1: you just have more time on your hands. I'm at
Speaker 1: home spending time with friends and family. Jerk. Can you
Speaker 1: train any.
Speaker 2: Dog hypothetically, I'm still kind of early in my career,
Speaker 2: so I don't want to be naive and think I
Speaker 2: could train any dog. And then I get a dog
Speaker 2: and I'm like tearing you that.
Speaker 1: Okay, I've never had a trainer for any of my dogs.
Speaker 1: I've had trainers come to my house and start, but
Speaker 1: then thirty minutes in, I'm just like, when is this
Speaker 1: person leaving? Yeah, because they do too much for me.
Speaker 1: Read the room, you know, here, here's my thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't have dogs that are going to hurt me
Speaker 1: right physically everything else. Oh you mean, I just need
Speaker 1: to do spend a lot of time, repetition, do it
Speaker 1: every day. So I'm like, I don't this is getting silly.
Speaker 1: I don't need this.
Speaker 2: I mean growing up, we didn't have a trainer. Like,
Speaker 2: we didn't our dogs were perfect. I didn't know dogs
Speaker 2: needed training.
Speaker 1: Is that just an LA thing where these people are
Speaker 1: just lazy and they want you to do the work
Speaker 1: for him.
Speaker 2: I think that's part of it. But I also think
Speaker 2: the expectations and modern society that we put on dogs
Speaker 2: in cities like La New York, just busier cities so
Speaker 2: used to be so reactive every time I stepped outside
Speaker 2: of the house, she'd be lunging if a leaf crinkled.
Speaker 2: And if I lived in an apartment in LA, I
Speaker 2: have to get her out of the house three to
Speaker 2: four times a day to go potty. That's non negotiable.
Speaker 2: So I can't have her acting like that. So I
Speaker 2: think it's more necessity. But also everybody wants a patio puppy,
Speaker 2: which is also fine. I love taking my dogs to
Speaker 2: sit on patios.
Speaker 1: But is that a term that I should have known
Speaker 1: patio puppy?
Speaker 2: Oh? I kind of just made it up. But that
Speaker 2: is like an expectation. We put a lot of expectations
Speaker 2: on our dogs in LA and busier cities. Everybody wants
Speaker 2: to be able to take their dog running off leash
Speaker 2: at the beach with other dogs and not have anything happen.
Speaker 2: And I agree, I do think to me, dog training
Speaker 2: is a more spiritual experience, that's what. And that's when
Speaker 2: you're like, I'm checking out. So how does would your
Speaker 2: wife stick around?
Speaker 1: No, no, she doesn't like dogs.
Speaker 2: Oh then yeah, she definitely wouldn't. Yeah, So it's just
Speaker 2: about But if your dog isn't endangering you, right then
Speaker 2: I don't really care, Like I'll meet you where you're at.
Speaker 1: What's the hardest breed to train?
Speaker 2: Huskies?
Speaker 1: Huskies?
Speaker 2: Yeah, or German shepherds. They're just really opposite. So German
Speaker 2: shepherds are hard to train because they're so owner oriented
Speaker 2: that they need constant information, and huskies are the opposite
Speaker 2: where they couldn't give two shits about you and just
Speaker 2: want to go be feral.
Speaker 1: Let's talk pit bull for a second. Okay, are you
Speaker 1: love them?
Speaker 2: I like pit bulls. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Are you afraid of them?
Speaker 2: No? At least two are. I mean, he's kind of
Speaker 2: pit bull. She's a pit bull.
Speaker 1: See, I've my brother always has pits, rescue pits. I
Speaker 1: love them. But I'm always like you. I don't get
Speaker 1: mad at me because I'm not you.
Speaker 2: Know, putting your face up to I'll do that.
Speaker 1: I'll even do that because I'm not worried about it.
Speaker 1: But I understand there's like, no I have an ease.
Speaker 1: Is not going to kill someone now under any circumstance.
Speaker 1: It's no matter how poorly trained they are. Some dogs
Speaker 1: have consequences, other dogs don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Owning a pitbull is a way bigger responsibility
Speaker 2: in my opinion.
Speaker 1: I have a burn a doodle.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I like doodles. I don't. I think everybody
Speaker 2: thinks that they're getting one thing. And then I've definitely
Speaker 2: trained some pretty intense doodles, but I think overall they
Speaker 2: have pretty good demeanors. I like them.
Speaker 1: I'm happy with mine. And the things that people don't
Speaker 1: like about my dog, I actually like, like when somebody
Speaker 1: new comes in the house, big bark, Oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: like it. Oh my good.
Speaker 2: That's the thing, and that's what I tell a lot
Speaker 2: of clients is I my dogs are far from this
Speaker 2: perfect standard of what a dog trainer's dog should be.
Speaker 2: If you come into my house, my dogs would be
Speaker 2: rushing to the door, jumping on you and barking because
Speaker 2: they're letting me know like someone's here. They're going to
Speaker 2: quickly sell down and I can call them off and
Speaker 2: if I know how to work through that behavior, if
Speaker 2: I wanted to, but I just don't really care to.
Speaker 1: What about those people that buy eighty thousand dollars German shepherd.
Speaker 2: That's insane?
Speaker 1: That only like all the commit nine you have to
Speaker 1: like they like basically take care of their bite work dogs.
Speaker 2: What is it like bite work dogs or like sports
Speaker 2: dogs something. Yeah, I'm not too into the sports world.
Speaker 2: It's super opposite.
Speaker 1: Not these like security dogs.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, these personal protection dogs. Yeah, that's a huge
Speaker 2: responsibility too. I think people just don't realize the responsibility
Speaker 2: that goes into that. And I know some people who
Speaker 2: let their guard down and the dog went after a
Speaker 2: kid or something awful like that, and then it's just
Speaker 2: unfortunate for everyone involved. Yeah, because the dog was arguably
Speaker 2: doing their job.
Speaker 1: Just give me that money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. I'm just like, there's I could do
Speaker 2: so much for shelters with them money.
Speaker 1: Well, see that's what I do. I buy really expensive
Speaker 1: design your dogs. Then Okay, the guilt from what I've
Speaker 1: done makes me cut checks to best friends. That's who
Speaker 1: I always work with. Good it should for years, for decades.
Speaker 2: I'm just like, ah, fine, looking at your doodle and
Speaker 2: you're like, here's here's another check.
Speaker 1: Right, So I feel like it it serves a purpose. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my dog creates guilt great. Also, my allergies. People always say, oh,
Speaker 1: you get a hyperalergenic dog, you have allergies. I can't
Speaker 1: put a new shirt on without sneezing for forty five years.
Speaker 2: Sog to your doodle.
Speaker 1: No, not really, but like dogs, I can oh right, yeah,
Speaker 1: I can start feeling it.
Speaker 2: I used to be allergic to dogs. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 2: agree with that eventually.
Speaker 1: You like Chihuahuas, Yeah, I do. Do they outnumber pipples
Speaker 1: in the UH?
Speaker 2: I don't think they outnumber them because people want small dogs,
Speaker 2: so they'll tolerate like of poorly behaved chihuahua. And to
Speaker 2: be honest, I don't think everybody should go rescue the
Speaker 2: red listed piple. I think that there's a lot of
Speaker 2: really good, well demeanored pities that are up for ad
Speaker 2: option that you can definitely go. Just get get to
Speaker 2: know the dog.
Speaker 1: Don't ever read the comments on any of my videos.
Speaker 1: I'm going because it's just people just awful. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: just can't handle it. They just tried it fun, but
Speaker 1: they have nothing going on. German Shepherds are not the
Speaker 1: hardest dog to train. She's an idiot.
Speaker 2: Like, Okay, this girl's never trained dogs in her life.
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter. Everybody's on the show gets a gift. Your
Speaker 1: gift is not it's just stuff for my house. Oh great,
Speaker 1: but I don't want That's all I ever give away.
Speaker 2: Okay, cool, but this caution heavy.
Speaker 1: This our company sent me. Okay, it's a thunder thunder
Speaker 1: whatever they do best for dogs. But then they have
Speaker 1: all kinds of things. There's leashes, there's shirt that's what
Speaker 1: says my dog's names carl point. Oh that's cute. I'll
Speaker 1: keep that, thanks guys. But there's just a million things
Speaker 1: in here for dogs. But here's what have.
Speaker 2: You used this for your dog?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: The anxiety?
Speaker 1: No, my dogs don't. My dogs don't have anxiety.
Speaker 2: I mean if she's barking all the time.
Speaker 1: Not all the time, just when just when my wife
Speaker 1: is nearby de menstruating. I don't know. Here, get this
Speaker 1: off my desk. Please, it's heavy. I know it's you
Speaker 1: going to be careful with it. You got you're strong.
Speaker 1: The dogs. There's probably treats in there that they can smell.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you why thunder Uh is it? What
Speaker 1: is it called thunder works? Let me tell you why
Speaker 1: thunder shirt? Yeah, the thundershirt. This is why they sent
Speaker 1: me this box. I was interviewing my father in law
Speaker 1: and he says he's got bad posture. He's like, well,
Speaker 1: I wear a thundershirt like twice a week to straighten
Speaker 1: my posture. He didn't mean the un actual thunder shirt.
Speaker 1: He was just calling it that. I think the brand
Speaker 1: that he wears is as Tommy Cooper is the brand
Speaker 1: of posture shirt that he wears because so he doesn't slunch.
Speaker 1: I want to make better box well anyway, Thundershirts. They
Speaker 1: thought it was nice that we were talking about them,
Speaker 1: so they sent me a huge box. I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: I don't have this problem with my dog. What am
Speaker 1: I gonna do with all this product? They also donated
Speaker 1: some to a shelter. I believe they donated to best
Speaker 1: friends an equal amount so that I didn't say anything
Speaker 1: bad about them. But now I figure, I'll just pay
Speaker 1: it for it to give it to you, You give
Speaker 1: it to your clients, you do whatever you want with it,
Speaker 1: or you throw it away. That's up to you. You
Speaker 1: let me sell it, that's fine anyway, I want to think.
Speaker 1: I want to thank Thunder Works forgiving us that for
Speaker 1: e Ze, But more importantly, Tommy Cooper, we need you
Speaker 1: to send us a bunch of posture shirts to my
Speaker 1: father in law. And he's probably a medium or a large,
Speaker 1: I don't know what, but just straighten that old man
Speaker 1: up because he is he's just bent over. Why should
Speaker 1: pet owners avoid dog parks.
Speaker 2: I don't have a problem with dog parks. I really don't.
Speaker 2: But I think the problem with dog parks is the
Speaker 2: dog owners that go to dog parks because they usually
Speaker 2: just go and they leave their dog there and then
Speaker 2: they go sit on the bench and then they're just
Speaker 2: scrolling on their phone the whole time and they have
Speaker 2: no idea what's going on. So even if I did
Speaker 2: that with Dexter, who loves other dogs, he would be
Speaker 2: running around humping other dogs. His brain's not really working.
Speaker 2: So what I do with dogs is I want to
Speaker 2: get them thinking. I want to slow down their need
Speaker 2: to just go all the time and have zero impulse
Speaker 2: control and really slow them down and be a little
Speaker 2: bit more intentional with them. So that's my spiel on
Speaker 2: dog parks. I don't have an issue with them. Like
Speaker 2: I said, I'll still take if you.
Speaker 1: Go a walk to a dog park, maybe that can
Speaker 1: be like and the dog park can be the reward.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think what happens is that you pull up
Speaker 2: to the dog park, the dogs screaming in the car,
Speaker 2: you let them rush out the door, they run into
Speaker 2: the dog park, and then they have they don't even
Speaker 2: know who you are when you're in there, They're just
Speaker 2: in dog. It's like, I haven't been a LA dog park,
Speaker 2: so maybe it's different an LA dog park. Now I haven't.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's got to be. Well, I have Lana,
Speaker 2: so if I'm gonna go somewhere, I'm gonna take both
Speaker 2: of them.
Speaker 1: And often are you training people's dogs too often? How often?
Speaker 1: Did how did Pete find you?
Speaker 2: He found me? I'm an independent contractor. I was an
Speaker 2: independent contractor through a dog training company.
Speaker 1: They finally got a dog, like, he's great. They they
Speaker 1: take him and his wife, they did five hundred years
Speaker 1: to make any decisions, and that whatever, these are impulses
Speaker 1: he has, you know, the dumb hip sack of treats
Speaker 1: that's just so embarrassing. And then the sixty foot training
Speaker 1: leash that he walks around with and I'm just like,
Speaker 1: what are you doing, man, Let's just let your dog
Speaker 1: run around? And then they just they're all, oh, well,
Speaker 1: we can't leave right now, our dog's gonna nap. I'm like, what,
Speaker 1: open the door of your room and just leave.
Speaker 2: I actually talk about them with other because of how
Speaker 2: amazing they did with their dog when she was a puppy,
Speaker 2: so I give great reviews to their parenting style.
Speaker 1: It just seems a bit much. Cassidy, thank you for
Speaker 1: being on the show. Good luck, Thank you, and I
Speaker 1: hope no more dogs in the world die under your watch.
Speaker 2: They probably will unfortunately.
Speaker 1: Well you're doing your part. That's all you can ask, Casha.
Speaker 1: All right, I want to thank Cassidy for helping out
Speaker 1: working with the the pets of Toss Show. Carl, how
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