Speaker 1: Hi, everybody, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.
Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford, joined by my trusted colleague West
Speaker 1: Hodkoits were coming to you here from our studios at
Speaker 1: lambeau Field and West. On Monday, we heard the from
Speaker 1: Packers new general manager Brian Guda Kunst. We heard from
Speaker 1: him the annual pre draft press conference, the first one
Speaker 1: for him, obviously in his current chair. And I think
Speaker 1: if there's, uh, if there's one significant takeaway that I
Speaker 1: got from that, it's that in his twenty years, couple
Speaker 1: of decades, however many years he's been in draft rooms
Speaker 1: in his lifetime, he has been a very keen observer
Speaker 1: of how people act, the behavior under pressure, all of
Speaker 1: those things from Ted Thompson, John Dorsey, Reggie Mackenzie, others
Speaker 1: that he's been around throughout his career. He's really paid
Speaker 1: close attention to how this works. Here's a great example
Speaker 1: of this, Mike um west Hogqoitts walks in the door
Speaker 1: at Packers dot Com in two thousand and sixteen, My grammar,
Speaker 1: my English has gotten exponentially better working underneath Mike Spofford.
Speaker 1: That's just the way it goes, though, Ted Thompson and
Speaker 1: had that relationship with Ron Wolfe, and he did it
Speaker 1: his own way. He didn't do it like wolf did,
Speaker 1: but the principles were there. And in just commanding that room,
Speaker 1: you have to show confidence, you have to show authority
Speaker 1: because there's so many people involved there. You don't want
Speaker 1: a week leader in those moments. You need somebody that's
Speaker 1: strong and sticks to their convictions. And that was the
Speaker 1: one thing and and Gouda Coins didn't want to go
Speaker 1: into like example of player A or player B or well,
Speaker 1: this guy was a great guy that we drafted at
Speaker 1: the last minute and we weren't sure and he turned
Speaker 1: out great. But he said with Thompson, the one thing
Speaker 1: you had every single year was just his calm, cool
Speaker 1: and collect approach. And ultimately I think that's what helped
Speaker 1: the Packers get to where they got. And right off
Speaker 1: the bat he was tested two thousand five. You go back.
Speaker 1: I think Andrew Brandt tells the story. They only had
Speaker 1: one guy left at number twenty four with the first
Speaker 1: round grade. His name was Aaron Rodgers. They didn't need
Speaker 1: a quarterback. He worked the phones for a little bit,
Speaker 1: then he took him and I think that being the
Speaker 1: first kind of chapter written in that book set the
Speaker 1: tone for the way that Thompson did things. And now Goodacuns,
Speaker 1: again we'll lead in his own way, but he's going
Speaker 1: to be guided by those principles. Yeah. Goodacuns talked about
Speaker 1: how you know, in draft room, especially in the first round,
Speaker 1: when obviously the stakes are the highest and teams are
Speaker 1: making phone calls and offering trades or you're trying to
Speaker 1: find a trade partner, things can get pretty chaotic and
Speaker 1: people can get pretty anxious, and you know, you're weighing
Speaker 1: this offer versus that offer. Do you stand patent? Do
Speaker 1: you make a pick? And the thing that he that
Speaker 1: he took, I think maybe the biggest lesson that he
Speaker 1: took from Ted Thompson is to have that steady hand,
Speaker 1: because when you're the one who's the decision maker, you
Speaker 1: set the tone for the entire room. And if you
Speaker 1: don't want a chaotic room, then you can't let the
Speaker 1: chaos get to you. And uh, I think you know,
Speaker 1: and this is an interesting situation him being thrown into
Speaker 1: his first draft here at the fourteenth pick. You know,
Speaker 1: you mentioned Ted Thompson's first one while he was at
Speaker 1: twenty four it's like you still have a lot of
Speaker 1: time to kind of wait and let things play out.
Speaker 1: Being right in the middle of the first round, it's
Speaker 1: a lot of speculation as to who might be available,
Speaker 1: who might not be He's going through with his personnel,
Speaker 1: trusted personnel advisors John Eric Sullivan, John Wojikowski and others,
Speaker 1: all the different scenarios that might pop up at fourteen,
Speaker 1: because it's all about it's all about being prepared and
Speaker 1: not being shocked or surprised necessarily by anything, because then
Speaker 1: you can make that calm, cool, collected decision when it's
Speaker 1: your turn. And it's all about preparation. And he mentioned
Speaker 1: too that is that you know, he's had conversations with
Speaker 1: Ted Thompson the week's leading up to the draft here
Speaker 1: about what to expect in the moment. He's been doing this,
Speaker 1: Brian has for a long time or two decades in
Speaker 1: the Packers organization. He's been around football since he was
Speaker 1: a child. But until you're in that seat, I think
Speaker 1: in the advice that Ted Thompson has given to everyone,
Speaker 1: every single one of his personnel executives have gone on
Speaker 1: to GM jobs, is everything turns up, everything gets warmer
Speaker 1: because now the decision is on you. It's your name
Speaker 1: that's making the pick. You're the guy that has to
Speaker 1: go up to the podium afterwards and explain you're thinking.
Speaker 1: And that's a big situation for a young GM to
Speaker 1: be in. So I think that's one of the big
Speaker 1: benefits that Gudkins has still having ted in the building.
Speaker 1: And obviously, as he mentioned too, wasn't able to get
Speaker 1: out to as many of the college you know pro
Speaker 1: days as he has in the past because now he's
Speaker 1: in that new seat. But that's where he leans on John,
Speaker 1: Eric Sullivan, John Woodrohowski, all these scouts that he has
Speaker 1: around him, the sam Seals of the world that I
Speaker 1: have seen most of these guys live, and going to
Speaker 1: take all that information, put it on their board and
Speaker 1: trust it. Said, there's a big, big push to want
Speaker 1: to overcook things during the final week, but you have
Speaker 1: to trust that eleven twelve months you've put in too
Speaker 1: scouting this class and making the best decision for your
Speaker 1: for the future, your franchise. And he talked about you know,
Speaker 1: it is about building that board so that you can
Speaker 1: trust the board. It's about all the preparation that goes
Speaker 1: into it, you know, you're grading the players you build,
Speaker 1: you know, the needs of your team into the value
Speaker 1: of certain players and where and and where they fit
Speaker 1: on the board. So you know, even when teams talk about, oh,
Speaker 1: we took the best available player, well, your rankings were
Speaker 1: also based on positions that you need and things that
Speaker 1: you need to do in the draft. So it's not
Speaker 1: it's not just strictly best available player. I mean, fans
Speaker 1: I think sometimes get thrown off by phrases like that.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, it's his call.
Speaker 1: He's got to sift through all the voices in his head.
Speaker 1: It's easy for a scout too, as they say, stand
Speaker 1: up on the table and scream for somebody when you're yeah,
Speaker 1: when when you're not the guy who who's you know,
Speaker 1: whose reputation is on the line, whose job is on
Speaker 1: the line to make that call. But he said, naturally,
Speaker 1: every scout, you know, you fall in love with certain players. Now,
Speaker 1: as the guy in the catbird seat, so to speak,
Speaker 1: he has to weigh, Okay, is it worth trading up
Speaker 1: to go get that guy? What's the cost? What all
Speaker 1: are you giving up to go get that guy you
Speaker 1: really love? Or you better off sitting back letting the
Speaker 1: draft come to you and then see what's there when
Speaker 1: when you're on the Cali. And that's gonna be the
Speaker 1: really tempting thing for Brian Goodkins in this draft, because
Speaker 1: they do have a league high twelve picks. There are
Speaker 1: a lot of decisions, a lot of maneuvers that they
Speaker 1: can make now that you can trade those compensatory picks.
Speaker 1: I look at it. I wrote about this an insider
Speaker 1: in box. I think that number four overall pick, you're
Speaker 1: looking for best available playmaker. People have asked edge rusher, cornerback,
Speaker 1: defensive tackle. I want the best available playmaker. And as
Speaker 1: that draft wears on, and as that pool of players
Speaker 1: probably starts to come a little bit more together, that's
Speaker 1: when you have to make those decisions. If you have
Speaker 1: a guy you really like, if you feel like you
Speaker 1: need to go up and get them like they have occasionally,
Speaker 1: you know, over the years. Yeah, well we'll we'll talk
Speaker 1: a little bit more about how the Packers are looking
Speaker 1: at this draft in terms of the overall roster back
Speaker 1: with more on Packers Unscripted right after this. Welcome back
Speaker 1: to Packers Unscripted. Mike Spofford here, Wes hodkuits All the
Speaker 1: way over there, Wes. Okay, So how are the Packers
Speaker 1: looking at this draft in terms of the way the
Speaker 1: roster is currently constructed. If you look at things on
Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball, the trade for Deshaun
Speaker 1: Kaiser pretty much or at least almost took quarterback out
Speaker 1: of the equation in a sense for this draft, three
Speaker 1: running backs drafted last year on the third day. Running
Speaker 1: back definitely low priority, if not, you know, somewhat off
Speaker 1: the radar. But everything else on the offensive side of
Speaker 1: the ball, Packers are looking for future playmakers, for depth
Speaker 1: guys to compete for starting jobs this year on the
Speaker 1: offensive line. Where is your top priority offensively for the Packers? Well,
Speaker 1: here's what's fun about this conversation. Like the last segment,
Speaker 1: you talked about building the board. I have a difficult
Speaker 1: enough time trying to build my fantasy football board with
Speaker 1: guys who have already been proven in the NFL. And
Speaker 1: then I mean, you look at good to Quinston in
Speaker 1: these scouts and understand this is their life's work. But
Speaker 1: trying to put all those names up on a college
Speaker 1: board with even more questions, question marks, and projections, it's
Speaker 1: an inn enviable task. But for me, looking strictly at
Speaker 1: the offensive side, I think it probably starts with the
Speaker 1: offensive line. That's not an indictment Mike of what happened
Speaker 1: last year or how they played. I think it's more
Speaker 1: a product of the fact that I think it was
Speaker 1: ten or eleven different lineups they had to use through
Speaker 1: the course of the season. They were very fortunate David
Speaker 1: baktr after shaking off that hamstring injury, Lane Taylor avoided
Speaker 1: an injury. Corey Linsley played every offensive snap. As you
Speaker 1: wrote about on Packers dot Com, the left side of
Speaker 1: that line pretty much intact. The right side is a
Speaker 1: different question. Brian Balaga coming back from the torn a
Speaker 1: c l Justin McCrae played both right guard and right tackle.
Speaker 1: Could he be a potential fit well, Jerry Evans come back,
Speaker 1: and then you have Kyle Murphy and and Jason Springs
Speaker 1: coming off of injuries that landed them on injured reserve right.
Speaker 1: So my biggest thing when I look at this is
Speaker 1: just bring me another body, Get me another one of
Speaker 1: those those mid conference tackles that you can convert to
Speaker 1: a guard or have some flexibility with. I don't know
Speaker 1: how high on the list of priorities that needs to
Speaker 1: be if that needs to be a second round pick,
Speaker 1: third round pick. But I do think at some point
Speaker 1: in there you need to add one of those, and
Speaker 1: then also just quickly receiver packers have had a lot
Speaker 1: of success picking receiver in the early rounds. Might be
Speaker 1: a good year to do that as well. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: kind of looks that way. With regards to the offensive line,
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I think it's you have to bring
Speaker 1: in at least another you know, mid to upper mid
Speaker 1: round prospect to throw into one of these competitions for
Speaker 1: right tackle and right guard. And I say right tackle
Speaker 1: because there's just no guarantee that Brian Bulaga can be
Speaker 1: ready for Week one when his when his torn a
Speaker 1: c L was as late in And you don't want
Speaker 1: to rush to either, exactly, you don't. You don't want
Speaker 1: And I know he's come this is a second time
Speaker 1: coming back from an a c L. He's done it before.
Speaker 1: We know all that. I'm not trying to question that
Speaker 1: at all. It's it's just there, there's a timeline with
Speaker 1: these things, and and as you said, there's no need
Speaker 1: to rush it. So I'd like to see another guy
Speaker 1: who then is in one of those competitions either for
Speaker 1: right tackle or right guard. You mentioned you know you've
Speaker 1: got Justin McCray. Jason Spriggs and Kyle Murphy are are tackles.
Speaker 1: Mccraig can play tackle or guard. Lucas Patrick is a
Speaker 1: guy who would be in the in the mix at
Speaker 1: guard as well, So you have some options there, but
Speaker 1: you really want to set this set up both of
Speaker 1: those positions really through O t s and training camps. Hey,
Speaker 1: let's let's send some guys out there to go compete
Speaker 1: and see who emerges when you go back, because it's you.
Speaker 1: The chapter has been closed now. Ted Thompson is the
Speaker 1: GM anymore. Twelve out of the thirteen drafts he took
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman. You and I have talked a lot
Speaker 1: about in the past what happened the year they didn't
Speaker 1: in two thousand fifteen and how that ultimately impacted them
Speaker 1: down the stretch. I just think that it's a place
Speaker 1: that you can fortify. There's a talent available in this draft.
Speaker 1: And the nice thing is the two positions offensively that
Speaker 1: I think you can make the case for the biggest
Speaker 1: need receiver in offensive line are arguably the two best
Speaker 1: positions the Packers have drafted over the ten last ten years.
Speaker 1: Tight end certainly figures into that as well. But everybody
Speaker 1: asks about that, My only response to it is first
Speaker 1: or second round. I'll believe it when I see it.
Speaker 1: It's been eighteen years now since the Packers have taken
Speaker 1: a tight end that high third round, not out of
Speaker 1: the Roman possibilities. They did it with your Michael Finley
Speaker 1: and Richard Rogers. But I look at that as something
Speaker 1: more later in the draft to potentially find a prospect
Speaker 1: and maybe receiver and offensive line a little earlier. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I see the Packers trying to fortify tight end here,
Speaker 1: certainly with with Lance Kendricks and Jimmy Graham both being
Speaker 1: aged thirty plus at this point, you have plenty of
Speaker 1: experience at the tight end position right now, but what's
Speaker 1: your future at the position? Emmanuel Bird is certainly a
Speaker 1: prospect the Packers are going to take another hard look
Speaker 1: at this year. But you need some more guys in
Speaker 1: the pipeline, and I and I think you need some
Speaker 1: more guys in the pipeline at wide receiver as well.
Speaker 1: Jordy Nelson is gone, Jeff Janis has gone. You're not
Speaker 1: too sure yet about Trevor David s Geronimo, Allison d'angelou, Yancy.
Speaker 1: All these guys are gonna get long looks. Michael Clark
Speaker 1: another one, six ft six. All these guys are gonna
Speaker 1: get long looks. But there's a lot of you know,
Speaker 1: unproven talent there. You have Davontae Adams, you know what
Speaker 1: you've got there. You have Randall Cobb, But Randall cobbs
Speaker 1: in the last year of his contracts, So you need
Speaker 1: to read. You need to restock things and and and
Speaker 1: rebuild that competition for the future and see where those
Speaker 1: positions go. In one last comment about tight end, just
Speaker 1: to touch on this briefly. Other than quarterback, I think
Speaker 1: it's the position that takes the longest time to develop,
Speaker 1: which is why I think drafting one would be smart
Speaker 1: this year because you have Graham, you have Kendricks too,
Speaker 1: proven veterans at a young body behind them to kind
Speaker 1: of watch and learn right. And when you have when
Speaker 1: you're going into a draft with twelve picks, that gives
Speaker 1: you the opportunity to address a lot of areas that
Speaker 1: next year you may not have as many picks in
Speaker 1: your back pockets. So with that, we'll go to a
Speaker 1: break and talk about defense after this back with more
Speaker 1: on Packers Unscripted. Welcome back to Packers Unscripted. Mike Spofford
Speaker 1: in this chair, Wes Hodkowitz and that one Okay West
Speaker 1: shifting gears to the defensive side of the ball, new
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, and Mike Patton bringing his system. We talked
Speaker 1: on our last show about the additions of Mohammed Wilkerson.
Speaker 1: You've brought in, Turmont Williams, are brought back Tormon Williams.
Speaker 1: I should say at cornerback, you're looking for a guy
Speaker 1: like Kevin King, whose rookie season was got messed up
Speaker 1: a little bit because of that shoulder injury. He was
Speaker 1: your top pick a year ago. But Packers need to
Speaker 1: need to look to the future at cornerback, and they
Speaker 1: also need to look to the future at pass rusher.
Speaker 1: And I'm talking specifically edge rusher because Clay Matthews drafted
Speaker 1: an OH nine, Nick Perry drafted in two thousand and twelve.
Speaker 1: Both of those guys, you know, they've they've put in
Speaker 1: their time and they will be the bread and butter
Speaker 1: this year, but they won't be here forever. No, they
Speaker 1: won't be Mike, And here's the thing is that although
Speaker 1: Dayton Jones ultimately ended up moving to outside linebacker and
Speaker 1: Mike Neil did that as well, it's been a long
Speaker 1: time since the Packers have drafted a natural outside pass rusher.
Speaker 1: I think this is a year to do it. The
Speaker 1: question is it's it really is the chicken or the
Speaker 1: egg here? Which one do you emphasized first? And as
Speaker 1: Ludacon has astutely pointed out, he's seen great defenses that
Speaker 1: have phenomenal pass rush and okay secondaries do okay. He's
Speaker 1: seen shut down, lights out secondaries and okay pass rushes
Speaker 1: and that defense turned out fine. There isn't one single blueprint.
Speaker 1: It's finding that equilibrium. That's where the Packers are challenged.
Speaker 1: Last year they didn't get enough of it on either side.
Speaker 1: The pass rush wasn't consistent enough. The obviously we know
Speaker 1: the issues with the communication in the secondary in the
Speaker 1: litany of injuries and inconsistency on the back end, big
Speaker 1: opportunity this year. I still really liked the pick of
Speaker 1: Kevin King six pounds. If he can come back from
Speaker 1: that shoulder, I think is he is a prototype boundary
Speaker 1: press man. Corn fit the scheme well. He also runs
Speaker 1: well enough that he can go down the sideline. Who
Speaker 1: does that remind you of Sam Shield? Not quite that
Speaker 1: level of speed, but probably a little bit more technique
Speaker 1: at this age. Yeah, pass rusher another big question. Because
Speaker 1: you do have Perry and Matthews, who do you have
Speaker 1: behind them? They have four or five guys who all
Speaker 1: spend time on the fifty three man roster last year.
Speaker 1: But who's going to be the one to grab that opportunity.
Speaker 1: I think the best way to get those guys motivated,
Speaker 1: not that they already aren't, is to bring in another
Speaker 1: guy in those early rounds, a guy that you can
Speaker 1: add to that rotation. Because when this defense was at
Speaker 1: its best in two thousand fourteen, in recent memory, it's
Speaker 1: when they have the deepest rotation. This is an opportunity
Speaker 1: to make that happen. Yeah, it's about getting that pass
Speaker 1: rush in the past coverage to play in sync, no
Speaker 1: matter which one is maybe the strength over the other.
Speaker 1: And that's what we have to see if if Mike
Speaker 1: Petton and the new scheme and everything is going to
Speaker 1: be able to accomplish that. When you look at this
Speaker 1: draft specifically, the word is and I'm no draft expert,
Speaker 1: I'm reading I'm reading this stuff out there. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: reading this stuff out there that everybody else is. The
Speaker 1: word is is this is not a deep draft in
Speaker 1: terms of edge rushers, but it is much deeper at cornerback.
Speaker 1: So then it just it makes you wonder. Okay, So
Speaker 1: the Packers are sitting there at fourteen in the first round.
Speaker 1: If they decide to stand pad and not move around,
Speaker 1: if there's an edge rusher you really like at fourteen
Speaker 1: and a cornerback you really like at fourteen, it almost
Speaker 1: seems like you have to go edge rusher because you can.
Speaker 1: You'll be able to get some quality cornerbacks later on
Speaker 1: and those edge rushers might not be there. That's just
Speaker 1: the way it kind of looks from the outside right now, Michael,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a little history lesson here. It's
Speaker 1: never a good year fridge rusher. There's always a dearth
Speaker 1: of really good pass rushers in the NFL. Go back
Speaker 1: to any draft two thousand to back to two thousand three.
Speaker 1: Most of your top Pro Bowl type difference makers were
Speaker 1: taken in the first round, and usually high in the
Speaker 1: first round. Yeah, Now, the question for the Packers is
Speaker 1: who's going to be available there does a Tremaine Edmonds
Speaker 1: get to them at fourteen. I don't think Bradley Chubb
Speaker 1: is going to be there. I know a lot of
Speaker 1: pack Your fans are hopeful. I think you gotta let
Speaker 1: that one go until we see differently. Marcus Davenport has
Speaker 1: gotten a lot of intrigue, and I personally wasn't sold
Speaker 1: on him. I end up talking to some people who
Speaker 1: really do know what they're talking about. They think he
Speaker 1: can be a player in this league, but it's basically
Speaker 1: having to wait for him to develop. I would be
Speaker 1: tempted if I'm the Packers. This is just West Hotwitz
Speaker 1: sitting in Packers unscripted, not on the third floor. But
Speaker 1: I just think when you look at those three defensive
Speaker 1: backs high in this draft, Denzel Award, Minca Fitzpatrick and
Speaker 1: also Derwin James, if any of those are within grasp,
Speaker 1: if any of them can be taken, those are three
Speaker 1: potential difference makers. For one reason or another, they really
Speaker 1: need a star slot cornerback. I think those guys could
Speaker 1: potentially fit the bill. It's a great place for the
Speaker 1: Packers of being at fourteen, but a lot of questions too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's tough because when you talk about the edge
Speaker 1: rushers and how it's never a great year for adge rushers. Well,
Speaker 1: that's because in college, if you're two fifty pounds, you
Speaker 1: can play defensive end. Yes, you know, in the NFL
Speaker 1: you have to convert to outside linebacker if you're that size,
Speaker 1: And in college, if you're two ninety you're probably playing inside.
Speaker 1: You weren't necessarily playing on the edge of the Bradley
Speaker 1: Chubbs of the world. There's a reason everybody's saying he's
Speaker 1: a top five, six, top seven pick, because guys like
Speaker 1: that don't come along every year. The same reason what
Speaker 1: happened last year with the Browns when they're making the
Speaker 1: decision that they did made at number one. You just
Speaker 1: don't have those type of body types and the guys
Speaker 1: that are that explosive, they just don't exist that much.
Speaker 1: And Goodicins talked about it. Yeah, all right, Well with that,
Speaker 1: we're gonna go to another break back with more and
Speaker 1: Packers Unscripted right after this Welcome Back to Packers Unscripted.
Speaker 1: Mike Spofford alongside West Hodgwits Okay, West, before we go today,
Speaker 1: a lot of talk about how the quarterbacks are going
Speaker 1: to dictate how the first round of this NFL draft goes.
Speaker 1: And there's a former Packers personnel executive by the name
Speaker 1: of John Dorsey sitting in the catbird seed in Cleveland
Speaker 1: with the first and fourth picks in this first round.
Speaker 1: He needs a quarterback. Which one is he gonna go with?
Speaker 1: That's like the million dollar question right now. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: it's funny because as information leaks out. Brian Goodkin has
Speaker 1: talked about this during his news conference on Monday. There's
Speaker 1: some stuff that is legit and there's some stuff that
Speaker 1: is just smoking mirrors. Goodin said, the Packers will do
Speaker 1: the same thing, trying to throw people off. What I
Speaker 1: really appreciate about this is the fact that over the
Speaker 1: course of the last three months, I think all of
Speaker 1: the top four quarterbacks, maybe with the exception of Josh Rosen,
Speaker 1: has actually been attached to the Browns, that the brown
Speaker 1: the Browns are taking Josh Allen. No wait, they're taking
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, you know. No, They're gonna go with Sam Darnald.
Speaker 1: And I had heard Sam Donald early in the process
Speaker 1: was the guy. But now who's it going to be.
Speaker 1: The thing that's interesting from the Packers perspective is they
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about that sweepstakes. But it is
Speaker 1: going to be interesting, Mike, because we're going to find
Speaker 1: out on Thursday night how much of that is legitimate,
Speaker 1: who really wanted a quarterback and where these guys are valued.
Speaker 1: There was talks I remember back and what was the
Speaker 1: two thirteen of Gino Smith being a potential top ten
Speaker 1: guy falls the second round. But whatever happens is going
Speaker 1: to have a big impact on the Packers because the
Speaker 1: more quarterbacks that go, the more value their pick has
Speaker 1: and the more prime prospects elite players could be available
Speaker 1: for them. And that's gonna be probably the most interesting
Speaker 1: domino to watch. Full Yeah, and this is one of
Speaker 1: the more unpredictable things because there is talk that maybe
Speaker 1: four quarterbacks are going to go in the top ten
Speaker 1: or top twelve, maybe even a fifth one. Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: from Louisville like slips, which then pushes more defensive players down.
Speaker 1: But then the flip side of it, not that long ago,
Speaker 1: a guy like Teddy Bridgewater was being talked about as
Speaker 1: a top ten, top fifteen pick. Suddenly he's there at
Speaker 1: the bottom of the first round. Minnesota trades back up
Speaker 1: and nabs him at the end of the first round
Speaker 1: because he's still there when everybody thought he'd be gone
Speaker 1: at least by number twenty. So it's as unpredictable as
Speaker 1: it gets. But it's a quarterback driven league, which makes
Speaker 1: it a quarterback driven draft. Unbelievable. Great point, Mike, and
Speaker 1: and it is interesting because quarterback is the only position
Speaker 1: where you really see this happen, because sometimes you really
Speaker 1: do we talk about best a pailable players. Sometimes it
Speaker 1: is just having to get a little bit more invest
Speaker 1: a little bit more, draft a guy a little bit earlier.
Speaker 1: Because of the nature of the position. You don't see
Speaker 1: that happen a lot of times at other spots. No, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's what it's what drives teams. If you
Speaker 1: don't have that guy, you are always searching for that guy.
Speaker 1: And the longer you don't have him, the longer it's
Speaker 1: going to take for you to become a contender. That's
Speaker 1: just reality. And the sooner you're gonna be out of
Speaker 1: a job. If you're a GM and it's like two,
Speaker 1: you gotta be able to find the man. And you
Speaker 1: look back in the years, sometimes you find you know
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, the third round, but oftentimes it's in the
Speaker 1: top ten. Yeah, no question with that. We will call
Speaker 1: it a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be
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Speaker 1: on Packers dot com on Twitter, He's at west Hot,
Speaker 1: I'm at Mike Spofford at Packers for the team account.
Speaker 1: Thanks for tuning in, everybody. We'll see next time. Mm hmm.