WEBVTT - What's Wright - Best Of - Knicks TARGETING Kevin Durant or Giannis after Thibs firing? SGA's 2025 better than Steph's 2016?

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the best of the Week for What's Right

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<v Speaker 1>with Nick Right the best takes and moments from this

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<v Speaker 1>week on the show. Enjoy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So, after two games away from the NBA Finals,

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<v Speaker 2>the New York Knicks have fired TIBs. We talked on Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 2>You seem to think that his job was pretty secure.

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<v Speaker 3>Myself as well. I couldn't see them fire and TIBs.

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<v Speaker 3>But here we.

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<v Speaker 2>Are, they fired him. Where did they go from here?

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<v Speaker 2>What's the assessment?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so.

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<v Speaker 1>I react, this happened ten minutes before the TV show started, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And I actually said on the air, sometimes the reacting

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<v Speaker 1>to breaking news are my favorite shows when I look

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<v Speaker 1>back on them, and sometimes they're the most annoying shows

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm like, gosh, darn it, I just didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>that piece of information, you know what I mean, And

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<v Speaker 1>so everything that we said ends up becoming irrelevant a

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<v Speaker 1>few hours later. I think the TIBs show might end

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<v Speaker 1>up falling into the former category my favorite shows, and

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<v Speaker 1>here's why. So my snap reaction to the TIBs firing

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<v Speaker 1>was there's really only three ways to view it, Like

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<v Speaker 1>there's only three I guess rationales to the firing rationale

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<v Speaker 1>one was.

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<v Speaker 4>They So let me back up.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason I'm framing it like this is because everyone

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<v Speaker 1>is framing it the way you did, Demonse, which is

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<v Speaker 1>it was the best season in twenty five years. You

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<v Speaker 1>made your first conference finals in twenty five years, you

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<v Speaker 1>were two games away from the NBA Finals, you were

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<v Speaker 1>favored to go to the finals, and you fired your coach.

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<v Speaker 1>So logically speaking, that would mean one of two things

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<v Speaker 1>is true. Either A, at the end of the regular

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<v Speaker 1>season they had determined were move moving on from Tom Thibodeau.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything short of a championship or making the finals, we're

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<v Speaker 1>firing that. That's where they were, kind of like the

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<v Speaker 1>Nuggets were with Michael Malone. But the Nuggets just did

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<v Speaker 1>it beforehand and they weren't going to let this playoff

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<v Speaker 1>run dissuade them.

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<v Speaker 4>That's kind of option A. Option be.

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<v Speaker 1>If that's not the case, if at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the regular season his job was safe, then that would

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<v Speaker 1>mean option B, which is somehow this playoff run hurt

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<v Speaker 1>TIBs in the front office er ownership's eyes, right, if

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<v Speaker 1>he would save at the end of the regular season

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<v Speaker 1>that they looked at it and they were like, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, Demons was right that victory over the Celtics

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<v Speaker 1>was a fluke.

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<v Speaker 4>Shouldn't have happened down fifteen in every game.

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<v Speaker 1>We're actually not that good, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Like we were trailing Detroit a Bune, we got lucky

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<v Speaker 1>against Boston and so like those are, in theory, the

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<v Speaker 1>only two viable paths. And this is why I'm kind

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like Tuesday's TV show is going to age. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I said that, and then I said, there is, however,

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<v Speaker 1>a third path, a third rationale I should say, which

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<v Speaker 1>is they are firing Tom Thibodeau because there is a

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<v Speaker 1>player they are trying to acquire that they think they

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<v Speaker 1>will be more likely to acquire if they fire Tom Thibodeaux.

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<v Speaker 1>And the what I was implying without really saying, is

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<v Speaker 1>was it possible that someone from Giannis's camp said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if person X was your coach, maybe not

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<v Speaker 1>only you know, would it pushed Gyan is closer to

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<v Speaker 1>asking for a trade, but maybe he would ask for

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<v Speaker 1>trade to the Knick specifically. So I just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>threw that out there as a possibility. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>you would have to fire a Tibbs in order to

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<v Speaker 1>give yourself a better chance to get Kevin Durant. Yannis

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<v Speaker 1>is the other big name out there. So I just

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<v Speaker 1>threw that out there on Tuesday. And then, Demons, did

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<v Speaker 1>you see the kind of weird report about one of

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<v Speaker 1>the coaches the Knicks might want to go after?

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<v Speaker 4>Because I did.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a coach who currently has a job, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was Jason Kidd. And if people remember, Jason Kidd

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<v Speaker 1>coached Yannis in Milwaukee, and when Jason Kidd was fired Yannis,

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<v Speaker 1>the reporting was he called Jason Kidd and said, is

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<v Speaker 1>can I fix it? Should I call ownership and say,

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<v Speaker 1>unfire you? I'm paraphrasing again, I'm not, I am. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>literally I could not be further away from reporting anything here.

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<v Speaker 1>I have been gambling NonStop for the last thirty six hours.

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<v Speaker 1>I've not been working the phones. I've been playing poker.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm simply saying the firing TIBs. It was odd enough

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<v Speaker 1>that a little alarm bells went off. And then when

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<v Speaker 1>I cause the reporting, demanse was there were two coaches

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<v Speaker 1>who currently have jobs the Knicks were interested in.

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<v Speaker 4>It was Jason Kidd and emy Udoka.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, okay, well, Emay Udoka is not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be available like and so it felt to me

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<v Speaker 1>and again maybe maybe I'm wrong, like Udoka was included

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<v Speaker 1>in that, like, hey, yeah, there's a lot of.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, established coaches that you know we might like.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really that one name.

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<v Speaker 4>It was really about exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And then this morning on the walk over from Aria

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<v Speaker 1>where I'm staying to Horseshoe where the World Series of

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<v Speaker 1>Poker is, I was listening to Brian windhorse Show.

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<v Speaker 4>The Hoop Collective.

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<v Speaker 1>And anybody, by the way, who tweeting me or asking

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<v Speaker 1>me or whatever about Lebron once again going at Wendy,

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<v Speaker 1>I would please. What I would like to say about

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<v Speaker 1>that is it makes me very sad and I wish

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<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't do it, and I you know, I appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>you respecting my privacy at this time, I do not

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<v Speaker 1>like it. But bright I was listening to Brian Windhorst

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<v Speaker 1>on his great podcast with Tim bond Temps and Tim McMahon,

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<v Speaker 1>Tim McMahon who covers all the Texas teams free ESPN,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Jason Kidd thing came up and Tim McMahon

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<v Speaker 1>did not who just wrote a book on Luca who's

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<v Speaker 1>very close to the MAVs When the Jason Kidd thing

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<v Speaker 1>came up, Tim McMahon did not say, Oh, no chance,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no way the MAVs are letting him leave. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no that didn't happen.

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<v Speaker 3>So Jason Kidd might want to leave Dallas.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think that's a situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, listen, I know they have Cooper flag coming, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's still kind of a toxic situation.

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<v Speaker 4>And here's the other thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if like it wasn't a toxic situation, so much

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<v Speaker 1>easier to win in the East right now, right now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to add one other piece of this because

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<v Speaker 1>obviously Jim Dolan was involved to some level. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how much of a level, but to some level. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna I'm gonna build a long bridge to

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<v Speaker 1>get to this point. Somebody I didn't interview a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks ago, and that silly like face of the

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<v Speaker 1>network thing came up again when the guy asked me

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<v Speaker 1>about FS one and me and I answered what I've

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<v Speaker 1>always answered, which is, for the last almost decade, Colin

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<v Speaker 1>Cowhard has been an hat for every single day the

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<v Speaker 1>face of FS one, and he will be until he

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<v Speaker 1>stops broadcasting for US and people think like, that's just

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<v Speaker 1>you know me, you know, kind of paying tribute to

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who's my professional idol and friend, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know all that, and some of that's true whatever, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's also it's not like an emeritus title. He's also

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<v Speaker 1>as like the kids on Twitter would say, still throwing

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<v Speaker 1>ninety eight on the black whenever he wants. Because Coward

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<v Speaker 1>had the best Jim Dolan take ever and he just

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<v Speaker 1>said it as an aside a few years ago, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's so perfect that I'm here in Vegas.

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<v Speaker 4>When we're talking about this, which.

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<v Speaker 1>Is Coward said, do you know why the Knicks all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden got good, good management, good coaching, They

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<v Speaker 1>were a functional adult franchise And he said it was

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<v Speaker 1>because Jim Dolan was building the Sphere in Las Vegas

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<v Speaker 1>and and was distracted.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm like, oh, that's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 1>Like Jim Dolan's favorite toy forever, ever since he inherited

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<v Speaker 1>cable vision and MSG from his dad, has been the Knicks.

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<v Speaker 1>But then his company was building the Sphere in Vegas

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<v Speaker 1>and that was his new toy, and so he had

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<v Speaker 1>to leave the Knicks alone. And like, all right, Leon

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<v Speaker 1>rose in world Wide West. You guys handle it like

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 5>It's the greatest take it, and it's why Colin's the

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<v Speaker 5>greatest to ever do it, because nobody, nobody else's brain

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<v Speaker 5>works that way. But the moment he said it, I'm like, God,

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<v Speaker 5>damn it, you're off percent right.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes perfect sense. It's exactly what happened. It's exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what happened. But here's here's my contribution to that take.

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<v Speaker 1>Guess what, Demanse. The sphere is built and it's up

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<v Speaker 1>and running and it's self sustaining, and the Knicks just

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<v Speaker 1>had this magical playoff run and so guess what this

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<v Speaker 1>is like a toy story, Buzz Aldrin Woody situation, that

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<v Speaker 1>toy that you threw in the back of the closet

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<v Speaker 1>because the other one was taking up your attention.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like a way, what did I say? What did

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<v Speaker 3>I say? Something like that?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Bus, so he's the third man to walk on

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<v Speaker 1>the moon or second man to walk on the moon?

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<v Speaker 1>Im sorry, Buzz Buzz Lightyear and Woody No. But then

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, the Knick, the Knicks, the spheares

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<v Speaker 1>up and running. The Knicks are fun. Now, Shalo mas

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<v Speaker 1>there they're making runs. Jim Dolan's like, I'm back, baby,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's make some Let's make No, I'm not saying they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna suck. What I'm saying is all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>they're making drastic moves again.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, He's like, what if we fire the coach? What

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<v Speaker 4>if we try to poach Jason Kidd? What if we

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<v Speaker 4>do this?

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<v Speaker 1>So it's just I and with all that said, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't necessarily think this is the wrong move. Here's though,

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<v Speaker 1>I do have the I want to bounce this off

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<v Speaker 1>you pal okay, because people were disappointed with the Knicks, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give the fair criticisms of Tibbs in a second,

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<v Speaker 1>but here's one of the things, like that the Knicks

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<v Speaker 1>were bad defensively in these playoffs, large portions of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Here is what I would be worried about and the

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<v Speaker 1>risk they would run they are running. Is it because

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<v Speaker 1>Tibbs calling card his whole career has been great defense?

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<v Speaker 3>Right? Right?

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<v Speaker 4>Is it possible.

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<v Speaker 1>That the defense the Knicks had this year, while maybe

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<v Speaker 1>disappointing to some, was actually the best defense you can

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<v Speaker 1>realistically have. If Jalen Brunson and Karl Anthony Towns are

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<v Speaker 1>your two best players.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Like, were they actually, because of Tibbs better defensively than

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<v Speaker 1>they should have been? But because of those two guys

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<v Speaker 1>defensive limitations, was it still not good enough?

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<v Speaker 4>Pardon me?

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's that would be the that would be the

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<v Speaker 1>concern that I think is potentially a real concern, right right?

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<v Speaker 2>That makes sense. He was just working with what he had.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I you see, I have no choice but

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<v Speaker 2>to play Cat and Brunson. What are you gonna do?

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<v Speaker 4>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>So's now, here's what I think is a fair criticism

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<v Speaker 1>of Tibbs and also a reminder for everybody. And this

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<v Speaker 1>applies mostly to basketball coaches, but you can find a

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<v Speaker 1>way to make it apply to any walk of life.

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<v Speaker 1>It's always risky to make it clear to your boss

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<v Speaker 1>that you don't think your boss has done a great job.

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<v Speaker 1>And here's what I mean Tibbs's stance of and he

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<v Speaker 1>bent on it a bit at the very end in.

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<v Speaker 4>The playoffs, but was probably too late.

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<v Speaker 1>Stance of I have to play these five guys forty

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<v Speaker 1>plus minutes because I don't have enough other good players

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<v Speaker 1>is always risky when the person who picked the players

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<v Speaker 1>can fire you like it wasn't intentional, but whenever a.

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<v Speaker 4>Coach this this happened.

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<v Speaker 1>This is why Calvin Booth was mad at Michael Malone

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<v Speaker 1>and then the owner there was like, you're both fired,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was Michael Malone was like, no, Russ has

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<v Speaker 1>to play forty plus minutes because the young players stink,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Calvin Booth was like, I picked those young players.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're quite good. And so if you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're Leon Rose, and Tibbs is like, sorry, McHale

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<v Speaker 1>Bridges has to play forty five minutes a game because

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<v Speaker 1>I can't play Landry Shammitt or Delon right. Leon Rose

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<v Speaker 1>is like, I don't know. I thought those guys were

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<v Speaker 1>good enough to bring in here. That's always a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a bit of a risk. Now, I also think

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<v Speaker 1>they did not get enough out of Michale Bridges this year,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can put some of that on Tibbs. And

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<v Speaker 1>I also do think this there is and we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about this. We don't have to spend too much more

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<v Speaker 1>time on it. There is a real benefit or real

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<v Speaker 1>risk to not experimenting with lineups in the regular season

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<v Speaker 1>is you don't get the real time reps and be like, oh, shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Delon Wright plus Duce McBride, cat Og and McHale bridges

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<v Speaker 1>that lineup can cook, like the different lineup combinations or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Oklahoma City now they won sixty eight games, but they

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<v Speaker 1>are the standard. Oklahoma City played every lineup combination imaginable

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<v Speaker 1>through the regular season and now they go into the

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<v Speaker 1>playoffs with real date on all of it. So I

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<v Speaker 1>know we have TIBs follow ups, but so let's get

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<v Speaker 1>to them. But there's my big picture TIBs take. And

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<v Speaker 1>I apologize to Adam Silver, who just did a great

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<v Speaker 1>interview on breakfast Ball and Thunder and Pacers fans because

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<v Speaker 1>they're like day one of the finals and you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about a fired coach. In my defense that we did

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of finals preview stuff on Tuesday because the final,

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<v Speaker 1>like that is a weird thing about the NBA playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just every night eyes bleeding from watching so much basketball,

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<v Speaker 1>and then there's like a week where we're just chilling

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<v Speaker 1>and and so.

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<v Speaker 4>But uh, but all right, what are the tips follow

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<v Speaker 4>ups going?

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<v Speaker 3>Honest, look, he always shaking up the NBA man.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, again, this is just a this is just a

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<v Speaker 4>theory by me.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not reporting it's.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not even close to one hundred. It's just an idea.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just an idea. But go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll do a game of likely maybe what if

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<v Speaker 2>to see who will be the next head coach at

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<v Speaker 2>New York. So it's like, it's likely that Blank will

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<v Speaker 2>get the job, but maybe Blank gets the job, and

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<v Speaker 2>what if this person gets the job?

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<v Speaker 3>So likely?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so the I mean Brew kept, Brew kept saying,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to make sure I get this right.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh what who?

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<v Speaker 1>Gosh darn it, it wasn't I'm gonna Johnny Bryant. Bru

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<v Speaker 1>kept saying Johnny Bryant, and Brew Brew is one of them. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Bruce said he didn't make any calls, he didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>anything on it.

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<v Speaker 4>It was just his speculation.

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<v Speaker 1>But then right after the show, Johnny Bryant was the

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<v Speaker 1>Vegas favorite for it.

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<v Speaker 4>Now it's also true.

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<v Speaker 1>This is one of the rare times where like first

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<v Speaker 1>things first might have kind of helped set the line

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<v Speaker 1>in Vegas because this thing broke it two fifty. Brew

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<v Speaker 1>is on the air at three oh two talking Johnny Bryant,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the sports books like what do they you know?

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're probably you know what are people saying

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it was, and so I don't know if that

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of the tail wagging the dog. The odd

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<v Speaker 1>thing to me about Johnny Bryant, And I said this

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<v Speaker 1>to Brew was right now, he's the Cavs associate head coach.

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<v Speaker 1>He was an assistant under Tibbs. So do they fired

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<v Speaker 1>TIBs bring in Johnny? I don't know, but Brew so

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<v Speaker 1>I think likely it's Johnny Briant. And the other piece

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<v Speaker 1>of this is the Knicks fired TIBs the day Johnny

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<v Speaker 1>Briant was named a finalist for the Son's job.

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<v Speaker 4>He then didn't get the Sun's job.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's Jason Kidd. And then the what if is

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<v Speaker 1>this demanse because this is the other piece of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't talked about what if it's Rick Brunson because

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<v Speaker 1>if it's not, that's an awkward piece of this, which

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<v Speaker 1>is when they're interviewing head coaches, so they say, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, one other thing, you can pick your whole

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<v Speaker 1>staff except for one spot Rick Brunson's got Like are

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<v Speaker 1>My point is, no, no, no, I don't think he

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<v Speaker 2>So the Knicks couldn't even up the series. So now

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<v Speaker 2>they're headed at Cancun? What do you think New York

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<v Speaker 2>should do? What should they make any moves people want

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<v Speaker 2>to come at cat.

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<v Speaker 1>If they just run it back, I think that's totally reasonable.

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<v Speaker 1>Run it back and be like, hey, runs it a man.

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<v Speaker 1>While everyone's been focused on Luca's it might be that

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<v Speaker 1>of the all the players on the twenty twenty two

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Mavericks, you were the biggest defensive liability, like moving forward, Like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that in Brunson's awesome. He's awesome. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>great player, legitimate superstar. But Game four for him was

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<v Speaker 1>really rough on that side of the ball, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was the biggest game of their season, So like, can

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<v Speaker 1>you get a little bit better there? Kat? Can you

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<v Speaker 1>watch the film from your game three fourth quarter again

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<v Speaker 1>and again and again, and try to activate that more.

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<v Speaker 1>If you know, McHale's just got to be a little

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<v Speaker 1>better throughout the year. Josh Hart just just be passable

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<v Speaker 1>from three, Mitchell Robinson nothing but free throws all summer

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<v Speaker 1>like those you do those things with the Celtic Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of off the chessboard. The East is wide open.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be reasonable. I now, as far as transactions, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>if you can get Yannis, you'd get Yannis. I do

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<v Speaker 1>not think they have the best package to offer, so

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<v Speaker 1>I think that would be tough. Now, maybe if he

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<v Speaker 1>demands only New York, May Milwaukee will accommodate.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about the Durant thing, Demanse, because I do

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<v Speaker 1>think if you traded Cat for Durant, if you offered that,

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<v Speaker 1>the Suns would say yes. Now, Durant is six years older,

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<v Speaker 1>and that shortens your window considerably. However, the argument for

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<v Speaker 1>it would be twofold one is it is a back

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<v Speaker 1>door out of what is going to be a really

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<v Speaker 1>tricky Cat contract situation, because Cat's got three years left

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<v Speaker 1>at fifty three, fifty seven sixty one. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you love that is he extension eligible? Let me look, no,

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<v Speaker 1>hold on, sorry, I want to check that, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>the other thing. If it's like, hey, and I also, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he is extension eligible. So it's like you owe him

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<v Speaker 1>sixty one and three years, and he might be like,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'd like two more years on the back end

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<v Speaker 1>at sixty three and sixty five. Like that's that might

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<v Speaker 1>be untenable. But the other reason you would do it

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<v Speaker 1>is if you think Mitchell Robinson can play thirty minutes

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<v Speaker 1>a game, and you think Durant would just add another

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<v Speaker 1>layer to your offense, and and here's the critical piece,

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<v Speaker 1>you think next year has massive additional value compared to

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<v Speaker 1>other future years because of the Celtic situation, I might

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<v Speaker 1>do it. You would still you would get better defensively.

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<v Speaker 4>Better.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know if you can say he'd be

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<v Speaker 1>better shooting because Cats such a great three point shooter

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<v Speaker 1>but better midrange. Yeah, I mean, like the I don't

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<v Speaker 1>actually think Durant's a better three point shooter than Cat,

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<v Speaker 1>like by the numbers and by the volume, but better

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<v Speaker 1>three level. I I normally would let me check Kat's

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<v Speaker 1>exact birth yea.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was about to say, like rank Katie's defense

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<v Speaker 2>with Cats. I mean, I know Katie isn't known for

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<v Speaker 2>his defense, but the way I see Cat moved around

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes Katie can get up and down.

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<v Speaker 3>The court fasten than that, Katie's a much better Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I was about to say, like.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, six years older, it's actually seven years older.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the Karl Anthony Towns turns thirty at the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>of next season. Katie turns thirty seven at the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>of next season. So that typically is not a move

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<v Speaker 1>you want to make. But I guess here's how I

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<v Speaker 1>would look at it if they made that trade Demonse.

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<v Speaker 1>I think for next year, I'd say the Knicks are

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<v Speaker 1>the favorites in the East, and now I think kd

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<v Speaker 1>might end up in Minnesota. I think there's real smoke there,

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<v Speaker 1>but the East is so open, and I do think

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<v Speaker 1>for a playoff run, even though we haven't seen duran

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<v Speaker 1>on a long playoff run in a very long time,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Durant makes you a little bit better. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>do you think that's crazy?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think that that makes a lot of sense.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Durant should probably go to the go to

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<v Speaker 2>New York as opposed to the East too. Just to

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<v Speaker 2>get the best postal chance, go the east supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>the west, just to get another chip.

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<v Speaker 3>But I mean still end up having to face those

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<v Speaker 3>guys either way.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I like the move. I think they should

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<v Speaker 2>do it. It's a no brainer to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's got to at least be kicked around.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the way. That's the way I look at it.

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<v Speaker 1>It really does help us out quite a bit. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>Bobby says, the twenty four Celtics against the twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five Thunder in a seven game series, who would win?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's tough. I think that's very close. If

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<v Speaker 1>you are getting seven healthy games out of Porzingis, I

0:28:35.119 --> 0:28:35.840
<v Speaker 1>would go boss.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:28:37.200 --> 0:28:40.600
<v Speaker 1>If Porzingis is the way he was forget this postseason,

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<v Speaker 1>even last postseason where you know he was injured. Then

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<v Speaker 1>I that to me would tilt it to the thunder.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that seem fair?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Man, that's so unfortunate.

0:28:51.520 --> 0:28:55.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, well yeah, I I to me that that

0:28:55.680 --> 0:28:57.840
<v Speaker 1>that's what I That's where I land on it, all right?

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<v Speaker 2>Next, Ryan, are the Pacers title hopes riding on game

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<v Speaker 2>on a game one win?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yeah, yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean you could well. Let me put it like this.

0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:14.040
<v Speaker 4>Again.

0:29:14.160 --> 0:29:16.840
<v Speaker 1>You guys know how thin I think the Pacers are

0:29:16.920 --> 0:29:19.280
<v Speaker 1>drawing in this. They have to win one of the

0:29:19.280 --> 0:29:23.760
<v Speaker 1>first two. You can't go down two oh, even though

0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:27.040
<v Speaker 1>ah the series wouldn't have started a home team had lost. Done.

0:29:27.680 --> 0:29:29.280
<v Speaker 1>You gotta win one of the first two.

0:29:29.720 --> 0:29:30.280
<v Speaker 3>Next.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, And Michael says, going into the twenty twenty four

0:29:33.480 --> 0:29:36.320
<v Speaker 2>NFL season, I think there was I think there was

0:29:36.360 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 2>a consistent consensus understanding that the AFC was better than

0:29:39.640 --> 0:29:43.320
<v Speaker 2>the NFC. You think that that still holds? No?

0:29:43.560 --> 0:29:46.440
<v Speaker 1>What I think is the quarterbacks in the AFC are

0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:48.760
<v Speaker 1>way better than the quarterbacks in the NFC. But because

0:29:48.800 --> 0:29:51.720
<v Speaker 1>of that, because the NFC quarterbacks are not as highly

0:29:51.760 --> 0:29:55.840
<v Speaker 1>paid you are, you've been able to develop more well

0:29:55.960 --> 0:29:59.400
<v Speaker 1>rounded teams and you know the team right New last

0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:01.880
<v Speaker 1>year that was you know it gets to call themselves

0:30:01.920 --> 0:30:04.120
<v Speaker 1>the best teams in the NFC. And the Lions were

0:30:04.120 --> 0:30:06.440
<v Speaker 1>excellent too. Now the Lions I'm a little worried about

0:30:06.920 --> 0:30:10.000
<v Speaker 1>and the Frank ragnow retirements not nothing, but no, I

0:30:10.000 --> 0:30:13.280
<v Speaker 1>think it's far closer than it was. Let's keep going.

0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:17.720
<v Speaker 2>Owen says love from Canada. Do you think SGA passes

0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:20.160
<v Speaker 2>Steve Nash is the greatest Canadian player ever with a

0:30:20.240 --> 0:30:20.719
<v Speaker 2>title win?

0:30:21.720 --> 0:30:23.960
<v Speaker 4>Yes? I think he does.

0:30:24.000 --> 0:30:27.480
<v Speaker 1>I think one MVP and one title and I think

0:30:27.520 --> 0:30:30.360
<v Speaker 1>this year from SGA was better than any individual Steve

0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:33.040
<v Speaker 1>Nash year. Yeah, I think he does pass him as

0:30:33.040 --> 0:30:34.320
<v Speaker 1>the best Canadian player ever.

0:30:34.440 --> 0:30:38.480
<v Speaker 2>Next, Luis says, hey, Nick, since the NBA season is ending,

0:30:38.600 --> 0:30:42.600
<v Speaker 2>is there any plan to cover summer sports WNBA, cycling,

0:30:42.680 --> 0:30:45.840
<v Speaker 2>Twit de France, F one, tennis until September and the

0:30:45.920 --> 0:30:47.040
<v Speaker 2>NFL comes back.

0:30:48.040 --> 0:30:53.160
<v Speaker 1>So we'll definitely cover some WNBA toile definitely cover tennis,

0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:58.440
<v Speaker 1>you know that. And I have a confession. You know

0:30:58.520 --> 0:31:03.200
<v Speaker 1>what I did this Sunday? I watched IndyCar in the

0:31:03.200 --> 0:31:06.600
<v Speaker 1>Detroit Grand Prix because ever since I went to the

0:31:06.600 --> 0:31:10.080
<v Speaker 1>Indy five hundred. I kind of gotten into open wheel

0:31:10.160 --> 0:31:14.680
<v Speaker 1>racing a bit, and so I am now considering going

0:31:14.760 --> 0:31:17.960
<v Speaker 1>back and watching that F one series on Netflix that

0:31:18.000 --> 0:31:21.720
<v Speaker 1>I was so skeptical of and us as ringing back

0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:24.720
<v Speaker 1>the F one minute and doing all that. So maybe

0:31:24.760 --> 0:31:26.920
<v Speaker 1>I'll get into F one because I thought the op

0:31:27.040 --> 0:31:30.160
<v Speaker 1>I thought the IndyCar stuff was really really cool. But

0:31:30.200 --> 0:31:33.360
<v Speaker 1>we'll also have NBA free agency, the NBA Draft. We'll

0:31:33.360 --> 0:31:35.600
<v Speaker 1>have a bunch of cool stuff, all right, Last.

0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:39.480
<v Speaker 2>One producers, but really gave thoughts on the new mission Impossible.

0:31:40.840 --> 0:31:48.600
<v Speaker 1>I have a shameful confession. I haven't seen it yet. Now.

0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:51.120
<v Speaker 1>Part of that is I've been incredibly busy, and part

0:31:51.200 --> 0:31:54.360
<v Speaker 1>of that is I haven't been ready to say goodbye

0:31:54.680 --> 0:32:02.800
<v Speaker 1>to the greatest talking franchise ever. And so no spoilers please.

0:32:03.240 --> 0:32:04.920
<v Speaker 3>Signed an Impossibles.

0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:11.120
<v Speaker 1>It's such a bad job by your, bad job by you.

0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:13.480
<v Speaker 3>Okay, No, it's the greatest movie series ever.

0:32:15.400 --> 0:32:16.480
<v Speaker 1>It's just so good.

0:32:22.880 --> 0:32:24.960
<v Speaker 2>For Oklahoma City. Who do you think has the most

0:32:25.000 --> 0:32:27.680
<v Speaker 2>to gain the most to lose in this series?

0:32:28.800 --> 0:32:33.640
<v Speaker 1>Most of the games unequivocally, without a doubt, Shay, I

0:32:33.680 --> 0:32:39.960
<v Speaker 1>mean Shae, Shae can argue I won't necessarily agree with it,

0:32:40.360 --> 0:32:45.240
<v Speaker 1>but Shae and his fans certainly could argue he holds

0:32:45.280 --> 0:32:49.720
<v Speaker 1>the belt if they win that it not only because

0:32:50.560 --> 0:32:54.760
<v Speaker 1>he's would be the league MVP. The finals MVP, there

0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:58.120
<v Speaker 1>were a sixty eight win team scoring champ.

0:32:57.920 --> 0:32:58.960
<v Speaker 4>But also.

0:33:00.520 --> 0:33:02.960
<v Speaker 1>I played the guy who has the belt and Joker

0:33:03.160 --> 0:33:05.920
<v Speaker 1>and my team won and I played, they could argue

0:33:06.000 --> 0:33:08.760
<v Speaker 1>played better than him. I don't actually think I agree

0:33:08.920 --> 0:33:11.440
<v Speaker 1>that in that series Shay was better than Joker. I

0:33:11.480 --> 0:33:14.880
<v Speaker 1>know Joker at a couple kind of uncharacteristic games. I

0:33:14.880 --> 0:33:17.360
<v Speaker 1>still think Joker was the most impactful.

0:33:16.800 --> 0:33:17.720
<v Speaker 4>Guy in that series.

0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:24.240
<v Speaker 1>But it certainly would be a fair take to say

0:33:24.240 --> 0:33:27.080
<v Speaker 1>if they win, to say Shay's the best player. It's again,

0:33:28.120 --> 0:33:30.200
<v Speaker 1>it's not the take I would have, but you'd have

0:33:30.240 --> 0:33:34.680
<v Speaker 1>to at least respect it. It also would be brew

0:33:34.720 --> 0:33:39.000
<v Speaker 1>and I were talking about this off the air, and

0:33:39.040 --> 0:33:42.600
<v Speaker 1>I know Simmons has talked a lot about this. It

0:33:42.720 --> 0:33:51.640
<v Speaker 1>also would be an all time Guard season, So like,

0:33:52.280 --> 0:34:02.520
<v Speaker 1>if you remove Michael and Magic, what Guard would have

0:34:02.680 --> 0:34:07.480
<v Speaker 1>had a better season than the one Shay is having

0:34:07.560 --> 0:34:14.040
<v Speaker 1>right now. I think if they win the title, I

0:34:14.120 --> 0:34:18.000
<v Speaker 1>think folks reflexively, I know I reflexively was like, well,

0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:21.640
<v Speaker 1>all right, Michael had a bunch, Magic had at least

0:34:21.680 --> 0:34:28.920
<v Speaker 1>a couple, and then, of course stept Here's the problem.

0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:35.040
<v Speaker 1>Steph's best season by far. They lost the champ They

0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:41.399
<v Speaker 1>lost the finals, So the Steph's years get kind of

0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:46.520
<v Speaker 1>fuzzy in our memory. But Steph's best year and one

0:34:46.560 --> 0:34:51.120
<v Speaker 1>of the greatest years any player has ever had, when

0:34:51.160 --> 0:34:58.640
<v Speaker 1>he scored thirty a game on I mean fifty forty

0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:05.279
<v Speaker 1>five and d splits they lost to Lebron. His other

0:35:05.560 --> 0:35:08.960
<v Speaker 1>MVP year, demonse, I'm gonna put you on the spot here,

0:35:09.400 --> 0:35:13.080
<v Speaker 1>give me a guess how many points and assists Steph

0:35:13.200 --> 0:35:15.960
<v Speaker 1>averaged his first MVP season.

0:35:17.520 --> 0:35:21.759
<v Speaker 3>Thirty one and nine, twenty four and eight.

0:35:22.160 --> 0:35:26.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh Jesus no that, But that's not U because he did.

0:35:26.640 --> 0:35:29.080
<v Speaker 1>He averaged thirty two later, and he averaged thirty the

0:35:29.120 --> 0:35:32.000
<v Speaker 1>next year. That so that's the point that I that

0:35:32.080 --> 0:35:36.960
<v Speaker 1>I was making. That year, the team was unbelievable, and

0:35:37.239 --> 0:35:40.760
<v Speaker 1>obviously he was great, but that's not like an all

0:35:40.840 --> 0:35:44.759
<v Speaker 1>time individual season. The next year was the all time

0:35:44.800 --> 0:35:47.320
<v Speaker 1>individual season, and then.

0:35:47.760 --> 0:35:50.000
<v Speaker 4>The year he had a year.

0:35:49.840 --> 0:35:51.719
<v Speaker 1>When he won the scoring title when they weren't that

0:35:51.800 --> 0:35:57.720
<v Speaker 1>good in twenty twenty one and they missed the playoffs

0:35:57.800 --> 0:36:03.120
<v Speaker 1>like that, you know, so there's his best year. They

0:36:03.160 --> 0:36:09.600
<v Speaker 1>didn't win the title. And then people are gonna say, well, Kobe,

0:36:09.920 --> 0:36:15.759
<v Speaker 1>did Kobe have a better year than this Shay year?

0:36:16.120 --> 0:36:24.200
<v Speaker 1>Because here's the thing, Kobe, and this is another one.

0:36:24.320 --> 0:36:27.120
<v Speaker 1>People are gonna say, this isn't true, but it is.

0:36:28.520 --> 0:36:33.360
<v Speaker 1>Kobe averaged thirty a game three times in his career,

0:36:35.080 --> 0:36:42.560
<v Speaker 1>and amazingly, none of the three did they win the championship,

0:36:43.000 --> 0:36:46.759
<v Speaker 1>and in fact, two of the three they didn't win

0:36:46.840 --> 0:36:53.239
<v Speaker 1>a round of the playoffs. So he averaged thirty a

0:36:53.360 --> 0:36:56.120
<v Speaker 1>game the year they were going for the three peat

0:36:56.920 --> 0:37:01.799
<v Speaker 1>and that year they lost in Did they lose in

0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:06.000
<v Speaker 1>round two? Yeah, they lost in Round two to San Antonio.

0:37:06.160 --> 0:37:07.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. Not the year they're going for the three peat.

0:37:07.840 --> 0:37:09.960
<v Speaker 1>They already had the three peat obviously, the year they're

0:37:10.000 --> 0:37:13.880
<v Speaker 1>going for the four pat and then his two insane

0:37:14.120 --> 0:37:18.799
<v Speaker 1>scoring years thirty five a game and thirty two a game.

0:37:19.719 --> 0:37:24.239
<v Speaker 1>They lost in Round one both years, both years that

0:37:24.320 --> 0:37:28.239
<v Speaker 1>Laker team lost in Round one, one year blowing a

0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:30.560
<v Speaker 1>three to one leading round one. So those years are

0:37:30.560 --> 0:37:34.640
<v Speaker 1>off the board. The next year, the year they got poal,

0:37:35.760 --> 0:37:41.600
<v Speaker 1>he won MVP. He averaged twenty eight six and five,

0:37:42.400 --> 0:37:46.640
<v Speaker 1>and the Lakers that year won fifty seven games. It's

0:37:46.719 --> 0:37:51.560
<v Speaker 1>hard to argue that year was better than this year

0:37:51.600 --> 0:37:58.120
<v Speaker 1>by Shay d Waite obviously never won an MVP. Isaiah Thomas,

0:37:58.880 --> 0:38:02.600
<v Speaker 1>as great as he was, never won an MVP. Steve

0:38:02.719 --> 0:38:05.880
<v Speaker 1>Nash won a couple, never made a finals.

0:38:06.640 --> 0:38:10.880
<v Speaker 4>So there is.

0:38:12.400 --> 0:38:15.360
<v Speaker 1>And I don't want to do West and Koozie right now,

0:38:17.520 --> 0:38:22.120
<v Speaker 1>but even West, let me check because Jerry, poor Jerry West.

0:38:22.680 --> 0:38:25.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Jerry West was one and nine in the

0:38:25.080 --> 0:38:31.360
<v Speaker 1>finals and the one year he won the championship, he

0:38:31.760 --> 0:38:36.839
<v Speaker 1>was not even close to his best individual season. Still

0:38:36.840 --> 0:38:41.440
<v Speaker 1>pretty great, by the way, Again, I don't do people

0:38:41.480 --> 0:38:43.480
<v Speaker 1>want me to do a Jerry West thing. Okay, I'll

0:38:43.480 --> 0:38:47.680
<v Speaker 1>do it real quick. Jerry West again one and nine

0:38:47.719 --> 0:38:51.960
<v Speaker 1>in the finals. And if that's not enough, here's Jerry

0:38:52.000 --> 0:39:01.360
<v Speaker 1>West's MVP finishes fifth, fifth, fifth, third, second, didn't didn't quality,

0:39:01.480 --> 0:39:06.040
<v Speaker 1>didn't get won for three years in a row, second, second, second.

0:39:07.160 --> 0:39:11.240
<v Speaker 1>He finished second MVP voting three straight years while losing

0:39:11.239 --> 0:39:12.839
<v Speaker 1>the finals like every year.

0:39:13.200 --> 0:39:16.160
<v Speaker 3>That's pretty crazy. Voter voter fatigue must not existed at

0:39:16.160 --> 0:39:16.560
<v Speaker 3>that time.

0:39:17.520 --> 0:39:19.719
<v Speaker 1>No, Wilton Russell won, all of them.

0:39:19.760 --> 0:39:20.440
<v Speaker 3>Kept trading off.

0:39:21.040 --> 0:39:23.000
<v Speaker 2>So I feel like once those guys are in second

0:39:23.040 --> 0:39:25.400
<v Speaker 2>for a long time or get those second and third spots,

0:39:26.000 --> 0:39:27.279
<v Speaker 2>it comes a year and they're like, all right, we're

0:39:27.280 --> 0:39:28.719
<v Speaker 2>just gonna give it to him.

0:39:29.040 --> 0:39:29.279
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:39:29.440 --> 0:39:33.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and listen, now, Jerry West did win finals

0:39:33.320 --> 0:39:36.680
<v Speaker 1>MVP the first year they ever gave it out when

0:39:36.680 --> 0:39:41.160
<v Speaker 1>they didn't win, when his team lost the finals, but

0:39:42.080 --> 0:39:47.560
<v Speaker 1>no during Wes Demons, during West Prime, here's the here's

0:39:47.600 --> 0:39:52.479
<v Speaker 1>the m vps, Will Russell, Russell, Russell, Oscar Russell, Will

0:39:52.800 --> 0:39:57.680
<v Speaker 1>Will Will and then Unseld Reid Kareem Kareem. It was

0:39:57.680 --> 0:39:59.759
<v Speaker 1>a big man's award. Oscar won it, but it was

0:39:59.760 --> 0:40:04.880
<v Speaker 1>a big man's award again. So Jerry West, like, maybe

0:40:05.560 --> 0:40:11.080
<v Speaker 1>point is this, if they win the championship, you can

0:40:11.160 --> 0:40:17.279
<v Speaker 1>make the argument that only Magic and Michael as Guards

0:40:18.080 --> 0:40:21.160
<v Speaker 1>ever had a better single season than Shay had this year.

0:40:23.040 --> 0:40:28.640
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty remarkable. Uh And for okay, see, I don't

0:40:28.640 --> 0:40:33.520
<v Speaker 1>really I don't really think there's too many guys that

0:40:33.600 --> 0:40:37.439
<v Speaker 1>have a ton to lose, except let me all add

0:40:37.480 --> 0:40:37.839
<v Speaker 1>this this.

0:40:38.360 --> 0:40:41.040
<v Speaker 2>What'd you say, Jaylen Williams, Don't you think it's probably

0:40:41.080 --> 0:40:43.759
<v Speaker 2>it's really important for him to perform in these finals, right,

0:40:45.000 --> 0:40:48.759
<v Speaker 2>I think out of all the guys outside of Shade.

0:40:49.320 --> 0:40:52.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but do you think do you think any show

0:40:52.520 --> 0:40:56.719
<v Speaker 1>like anybody's gonna kill Jalen Williams if he doesn't like

0:40:56.800 --> 0:41:00.520
<v Speaker 1>I just don't. He's in that Goldilock zone that we've

0:41:00.560 --> 0:41:03.120
<v Speaker 1>talked about of good enough to where he's gonna make

0:41:03.160 --> 0:41:06.640
<v Speaker 1>a ton of money, but not so good to where

0:41:06.640 --> 0:41:09.880
<v Speaker 1>he gets super scrutinized. Maybe though I think he's like

0:41:09.960 --> 0:41:13.120
<v Speaker 1>the X factor, super important. I just don't think he's

0:41:13.120 --> 0:41:15.239
<v Speaker 1>got you know, people are gonna kill him. I'll add

0:41:15.280 --> 0:41:22.919
<v Speaker 1>one other person as far as who this person has

0:41:22.960 --> 0:41:26.759
<v Speaker 1>the most anxiety right now, that's my that's the way

0:41:26.800 --> 0:41:32.880
<v Speaker 1>to put it for Okay, see, and that's Sam Presty.

0:41:33.080 --> 0:41:38.759
<v Speaker 1>So Sam Presty took over the Thunder when they were

0:41:38.800 --> 0:41:51.000
<v Speaker 1>still in Seattle, Okay, and he draft like he took

0:41:51.080 --> 0:41:53.799
<v Speaker 1>over right after the draft, right before he took over,

0:41:53.880 --> 0:41:58.200
<v Speaker 1>right or like the week they drafted Durant. I don't

0:41:59.200 --> 0:42:05.640
<v Speaker 1>the I don't know. Yeah, no, he he drafted Durant.

0:42:06.080 --> 0:42:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Now that was a no brainer. Once Odin went one,

0:42:08.920 --> 0:42:12.160
<v Speaker 1>Like whoever whoever didn't go one was gonna go too

0:42:12.200 --> 0:42:15.200
<v Speaker 1>in the odin Durant rapid set that aside, Westbrook was

0:42:15.239 --> 0:42:18.040
<v Speaker 1>not a no brainer. Pick Harden was not a no brainer.

0:42:18.080 --> 0:42:20.719
<v Speaker 1>Pick a Baka was not a no brainer pick. He

0:42:20.920 --> 0:42:27.239
<v Speaker 1>just crushed, absolutely crushed after coming from the Spurs, and

0:42:27.280 --> 0:42:32.600
<v Speaker 1>they are just set up that it's gonna be the

0:42:32.920 --> 0:42:36.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, the thunder out West for a generation, and

0:42:36.640 --> 0:42:38.640
<v Speaker 1>they made the finals in twenty twelve and have not

0:42:38.760 --> 0:42:45.480
<v Speaker 1>been back since and hardened they He then trades Harden

0:42:45.760 --> 0:42:50.960
<v Speaker 1>probably not probably definitely his worst UH transaction as an executive.

0:42:51.040 --> 0:42:56.320
<v Speaker 1>My guy Daryl got over on him and just been building, building, building,

0:42:56.400 --> 0:42:58.080
<v Speaker 1>getting trying to get back to this moment.

0:42:58.719 --> 0:43:03.839
<v Speaker 4>He knows as well as anyone that.

0:43:05.440 --> 0:43:08.920
<v Speaker 1>There these moments can be fleeting and you've got to

0:43:08.960 --> 0:43:12.080
<v Speaker 1>take advantage. By the way, if you want to know

0:43:12.160 --> 0:43:14.560
<v Speaker 1>more about Sam Presty, I don't even know if you

0:43:14.640 --> 0:43:17.440
<v Speaker 1>know this, Demanse, but you know who wrote a book

0:43:18.520 --> 0:43:21.799
<v Speaker 1>that Sam Presty is a central character of.

0:43:23.320 --> 0:43:23.640
<v Speaker 3>Who?

0:43:24.920 --> 0:43:30.160
<v Speaker 2>Danny parkins, Oh, that's what's that pipeline to the pro

0:43:30.320 --> 0:43:31.200
<v Speaker 2>Pipeline to the pros.

0:43:31.320 --> 0:43:35.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, pipeline to the throat to the pros about you know,

0:43:35.640 --> 0:43:39.719
<v Speaker 1>Division three, pipeline to nba gm uh. That's a great book.

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